Forging Feather Damascus By Hand
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- Thin pieces of 1095 and 15n20 are pattern welded by hand to make feather damascus! Tendonitis happened. I already have thoughts on how to make a larger billet with slightly less effort. Sorry about the length of this video there was a lot to share! Is this how Ws and feather damascus are really made? Best I can tell but I could be way off so be nice.
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Dude, the white images used to illustrate how the Damascus was coming together worked brilliantly. I'm sure that as the craftsman you see all the flaws as bright as day, but as a consumer, as a knife collector, I think the knife came out looking incredible. Truly gorgeous.
"You gotta draw some pictures, man, some of us are morons."
I felt that.
Same here
And to this day he is still making “another billet” 😁
You think you are jesting? Wouldn't surprise me a bit. If he wants to pursue this specific portion of the craft further, that is a given, actually. Rinse, and repeat, until you have made your last piece.
@Diana Adrianna Uh huh, it seems like you are a person that misreads things and looks to find fault for no reason, because that is exactly what you just did. You might want to read it again and maybe understand what I was saying.
My point was that I KNEW he was jesting, and was pointing out that it really wasn't a jest in the strictest sense, I wasn't negatively commenting on anything. And oh yeah, apparently I forgot the !.
14:26
God I just love it when people make some stupid comment intending to 'put me in my place', then realize THEY completely hosed themselves with their haughty reply. I expect by the opening line in my reply' you are a person that misreads things' probably came word for word from her reply, but am not sure.
SOP at that point seems to be duck and cover, delete and run. And judging by my less than polite reply, I suspect her response was some snide, in the tone of 'you are an idiot' mode, where she made a fool of herself. LOL I will give her credit though, most are not even smart enough to realize when they are chewing on their flip flop...hoof in mouth disease, so to speak. Apparently she at least she got hold of that idea, so I've seen a lot worse.
Always fun, though. I've taken to copying their replies in quotes (the nasty put down types) and then responding, so that they can't delete it, because this happens SO frequently and often a good part of the humor is lost.
I just LOVE it when people jump down my throat, especially when they are really nasty about it...then the gloves come off (as much as above) and the fun begins. Really, try me. :-) Cheers.
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This dude at 4:30 : "I have 2 options, I can either continue forging without a canister or I could make a new canister, I decided to forge without a canister"
Me, knowing nothing about blacksmithing: Yeah that's a good call, it's what I would've done
"Me, knowing nothing about blacksmithing"
Now THAT is an unusual YT comment. Most YT commenters think they are the world's #1 authorities on EVERYTHING, even though they have NEVER touched the subject, beyond watching a few YT vids on it. LOL
Glad I'm not the only one
Then you have real blacksmiths who refuse to have any machines exept a air compressor for the forge and a angle grinder to cut the iron/steel.
Propperly hand forging pattern welded steel isen't hard, just takes time. And if you have to use a welder then you are cheating.
Like my old master used to say. "Learn how to forge properly and you will need less powertools" And i agreed. Our ansestors dident need a tig welder or power tools, and neither do we. We have lost tutch whit the joy and pride of craftmanship.
@@mr-x7689 While I understand the 'purity' point, unless you are for some reason bent over the stop about it, as you apparently are, or you are working somewhere demonstrating the old craft, I don't see that it matters. Forcing what matters to you on someone else is just silly, frankly.
I would also point out that using modern tools (maybe short of CNC, anyway) in NO WAY precludes craftsmanship. Most of the things that are made in modern society, a forge would get you absolutely nowhere, including consumer hardware items, and there, yes, there is utilitarian design, but not much craft, excepting maybe in the tools that make them. I am an engineer, and there is 'craft' far beyond what you are speaking to here. Just sayin'.
Why not just use a flatter hammer and hit the edges instead of just the center of the billet?
I think you don’t give yourself enough credit those knives look great!! Thanks for sharing..
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I was about to say the exact same thing, this guy has talent.
I think people who are really great at what they do are often people who underestimate themselves. Because they always strive to get even better.
The pattern is beautiful.
That's the most intriguing handmade damascus I've ever seen.
HOLY F&*K. For once I am able to understand when somebody is explaining what they will do with their work to make the patterns when forging.
Thank you for the drawings!
@Squiggummer Figgammus only every time I watch someone make damascus.
A double edged dagger type of knife with that pattern of Damascus would look absolutely amazing
That was the first thing I thought of when I seen the drawing and when he moved the feather over I thought that was what he was doing. Absolutely amazing.
There is a marfione custom MokuTi feather damascus knife
I definitely agree. Having the feathers going to double blade edges with the spine at the center of the dagger would look absolutely amazing.
@@jameswilliams8582 make it a stiletto dagger and have the feather damascus taper down the point would be sweeeet looking
I dont know how i got here but im happy i did. Your style or narration coupled with the diagrams makes your video extremely interesting, especially for someone who knows absolutely nothing about this fine art, such as myself. It is a testament to your self awareness, in that not all folks have this type of knowledge and for you to make it relateable was truly a pleasant surprise. thank you. sub'd
You, sir, are a hero for doing feather without a power hammer or a press. And you ended up with a fine pattern in both blades. Kudos. Clyde
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He will end up with biceps of steel because of this.
I agree no power hammer or press very well done sir
Mate if you don’t make it as a knife maker I think you have a future in making documentaries and short films. You make an excellent TH-cam video. Always enjoyable and interesting to watch. Excellent video and commentary. 👍🏻
THANK YOU FOR SHARING. I learned how to forge Damascus from my Grand Father, (from Lebanon). He made gun parts, and knives for the army, however, I must say you have taken me to higher label. Your explanations and persistence reminds me of him, thank you, keep up the excellent work because you ARE GOOD and have a good day.
I've been knife smithing for about three years. I wholeheartedly agree with the forum comment. I'm one of the morons that needs pictures. I decided to tackle feather after I got my press and your video is the best instruction set I've seen on the process both due to presentation and the diagram you drew. I've probably watched it about ten times to fully visualize the process.
You stopped on the first billet because you didn’t want to hammer. Then proceeded to make two more billets. Should have just hammered through the first one. 😂😂
@@joebarker3997 that's what I thought, ended up doing 2 times as much work
Absolutely NOTHING moronic about needing pictures! I used to design for the aerospace industry, and the initial output, where follow on production was intended, was usually a working prototype (or several), and MASSIVE format specified or format approved documentation to facilitate further builds.
Sometimes that wasn't the intent, when just proof of principle or demonstration/ validation, but even there serious paperwork, schematics/ mechanical drawings/parts lists/tech documentation/etc. was produced, though sometimes at a reduced requirements level (all that doc is EXPENSIVE).
Occasionally, the final production contractor chosen was NOT the company that designed the hardware, especially if the program was initially laid out as such, so it had to be complete and accurate to allow that smooth transfer of responsibilities, if another company the govt felt could do the job adequately underbid and won that phase. There, documentation was considered a serious portion of the end product, without it, a complex design would be useless. They don't pay to have it engineered to have it later reverse engineered, although I worked one that involved a bit of that...not production, just further prototyping as a sub, I suspect intended to do exactly that, verify the documentation quality.
That’s one of the prettiest patterns I’ve ever seen.
oh i just wrote the same thing haha
Video: Hammer smacking a hot piece of metal
Captions: [Applause]
Kind of a nice way of putting it
Then the metal clapped. *Yay!*
I love how honest this project is. No power hammer. No corner cutting. Just clean quality work and an excellent work product. Great video.
Glad you like it!
Out of all the TH-cam videos I’ve watched on people making various things, this was the most well constructed video I’ve seen. Absolutely superb! I’m not a blacksmith, but you have my subscription. What a pleasure!
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What i really like about you, dude, is that you're not afraid of making mistakes and/or missteps. That is the prerequisite quality for being a very successful individual. I think that to any man, your videos must be absolutely relaxing and inspiring. They are to me for sure. Beautiful work. A piece of art.
Sir, you are a true artist and craftsman. I love your attitude. I was glad to see you get a press in another video. Swinging a hammer for hours on end does a real number on your body. Incredible blades, love the diagrams and explanations. Thank you, appreciate the many many hours.
I watch a man from the Ukraine on TH-cam forge Damascus and he experiments using all types of odd pieces of iron.
Your ability to produce that pattern with a hammer and your will...in what appears to be your garage...just phenomenonal!!!
Gorgeous, a work of art.
"In this episode, observe as Green Beetle slowly loses his mind."
Madness aside don't be so critical of yourself, you did a fantastic job!
The reason I like your videos way more than Alec Steele’s is that you’re relatable, you do everything with an amazing quality without there being 30 billion dollars worth of equipment and it inspires me to continue working the craft.
(Not to say Alec doesn’t do great work, he’s just super unrelatable
Alwc started out like you but he's been using pressings since he was like 13 to make tools, and he makes video as a living. He still a kid smh. Scary talented, so I watch for enjoyment and to pick up blacksmith g tips here and there but I will never be putting 80 hrs a week he does...he's kindA OCD LOL
@@jason561120 yo I thought you said that he had a kid😂
Probably cus your old
Young "Mr. Steele" is going to have a hard time moving out of his fathers shop.
@@kekz0r you know, you don't sound cool saying that dumb shit.. Just because a young person can afford something that you cant dosent make it "his father's".. it just makes him more intelligent than you.. Alec started blacksmithing at 11 and made art during the summer at age 13 to sell at a fair which he made 500 dollars and invested that money into more equipment...seeing how he is now 19 and has been doing it for 8 years along with having a pretty successful TH-cam channel.. I'd be willing to bet he makes more than his father and you combined sir.. Jealousy sure is a motherfucker... Someone always got to be hating on the next man.
That was really clever using the stainless steel foil to prevent sticking. Ha yes glad you included the picture diagram. Have watched another video on explaining this and must say your pictures did help.
Work With Nature Saw it in a WIP forum post by Mike Turner
I saw Alec do this but it was hard to figure out how he did it.
Work With Nature Is this a really efficient way of stick prevention? People on forged in fire are always having such a hard time with getting it to not stick so I was wondering
Green Beetle Is this a really efficient way of stick prevention? People on forged in fire are always having such a hard time with getting it to not stick so I was wondering
I do not know, as I came across him using the foil for the first time and by his results thought it to be a good idea. Stainless steel does not forgeweld if oxygen is present. If you do not weld shut your canister (a good idea to avoid it maybe blowing up) then I would think it would work. Also there is tons of scale on the inside of his canister so again that would prevent sticking.
I really like how you talked through the learning curves you experienced. For me it makes for a better understanding of the process as a whole.
All TH-camrs that forged Damascus should do it like this guy thumbs up
I have been interested in metal working for a couple years now and have watched countless vids. I just found this one and I'm honestly amazed at how easy to understand you made it feel and the pictures were a great addition. Thank you for your amazing work and easy to understand teachings.
what's ur runescape smithing level
Obviously morrowind
Probably 300
I was actually mining while watching this
90 lol
@@andrewprahst2529 same lol
Everytime you said "well, there is a problem" I screamed at screen NO THERE IS NONE THIS IS BEAUTIFULLLL. Your perfeccionism and humour inspires me. Cheers from Brazil.
I've loved your videos for years, and I always give this one a re watch every 6 months or so. I'd love to see feather damascus after some blueing salts! Imagine that!
Your dedication to your art is admirable sir!
Feather Damascus is freaking beautiful. Awesome job man!
Excellent job. I've been blade smithing for 3 years now, and so far, this has been the most informative feather Damascus video I've seen. I like how you didn't edit out your mistakes. It felt as if we where on the learning journey with you. Very well done 👏
That was so well explained! I can't believe that just like that I actually understand how damascus steel is done! Wow man! You could be a really good teacher 😅
If you ever decide to go with a Press, which I finally decided to do this year. I chose ‘Coal Iron Works’ ~ 16 Ton Forging Press. Absolutely incredible! I’ve had my Press about 3 months or so, and it’s completely changed the shop. The time it takes to move metal is unbelievable. It’s definitely been a game changer in what I’m able to accomplish, especially for customers. It’s certainly a great investment. When you’re finished using it, just roll it aside out of the way! They even delivered it FREE OF CHARGE! It’s certainly a case by case decision, but I felt I needed one and I could not be happier! Keep up the Great Work!!!
wow, that is the coolest damascus anything I have ever seen by far.
I'm thoroughly impressed. Not simply by your skills, but your humility and complete lack of ego as you openly admit you don't know when you don't know. All too often blacksmiths on the interwebs are only interested in pounding their chests for a cheap ego-stroke. You sir earned my respect by allowing yourself to be vulnerable and fallible. Also, diagrams should be mandatory, bravo! Oh, and all that without a power hammer or press?! You're a beast!!
Holy shit my man, this is the first Damascus knife that I've seen that actually doubles as art!
Brilliant work!
I totally would want one of these!
Man, that's absolutely gorgeous. Good luck on your journeyman knives! It definitely looks like you're ready for the next step.
17:18 "I put millimetres instead of inches!" LOL
Thumbs up for the Spinal Tap reference!
For something that took so much effort and time it sure does look like it paid off in the end. So stunning!
After all that hard work, you see the final product and puts a smile on your face.
Man you earned these two but it looks like it was worth it cause they are amazing. These are the ones the Essential Craftsman was showing when he mentioned your channel and made me want to see how you did it. I'm happy he did. Have you ever made a knife from a torsion bar off a truck. They are pretty tuff and they are long. I made a couple of rock bars out of them I put a leaf spring on the end of one and used it to cut roots with. lol . It was nothing like what you do man. Respect.
This is the first comment ive ever left on any youtube. I know you do some awesome stuff on the regular but first time feather by hand, man that looks incredible! Thanks for the content Sir
You did a great job breaking it down so someone that has not done this before can understand. You defiantly have a gift.
I’ve watched dozens of Damascus videos and this is the first time I actually understand how it’s done.
it's not how it's done
this dagger looks almost same as damascus steel, but it's internal structure of it is compeletly different
orginal's damascus's steel pattern occured while casting, not by folding X pieces of 2 different steels
In orginal's also made apperances some carbon nanotubes, which made them so strong comparing to "normal stee" (not only this made it but it's unique to damascus steel)
You did a very awesome job, the fact that you hand forged it. I really love and admire the result and it's the most jaw-dropping Damascus pattern I've ever seen. I'll give it a 100 thumbs up. 👏🤝😍
Love it brother. You are talented, humble and a great teacher. It is brilliant that you showed us the different issues you ran into during the process and how you learned from those mistakes. Keep going. Wish you well.
Incredible pattern. I don't think I'd ever seen that before. A lot of these knife channels on TH-cam make Damascus out of everything but the neighbor's cat. Power hammers, presses. It's pretty cool to see someone do it all by hand. My elbow still hurts from watching the video.
I love that you included the illustrations! Really helps you see what's going on.
KUDO'S SIR... YOU BANG IT OUT IN STYLE! Appreciate the time and effort you took to produce such an excellent blade and share it with us all. Nice job!
Best regards, S.H.
i somehow enjoyed you messing up on the first couple tries. shows how precise measurements have to be. beautiful work!
Yes journey on. This Damascus has the look of a pro to my eyes. Your best effort. You should be very proud.
Really likes this! No music and no talking in a ”over pumped” way.
so thankful i followed shurap's channel cause it brought me here..., a most welcome respite from our current world health calamity.
Loved your persistence doing this. Good luck
This is stunning. Feather Damascus is the _only_ type of Damascus that I like, the rest of it has never appealed to me whatsoever. Big props for taking us through this process, it was very informative and riveting to watch.
Damascus is one of my absolute favorite patterns and you did a great job for not working in a professional forge with autohammers. Keep up the good work and please keep posting them.
That is beautiful! I enjoyed the commentary and seeing the learning happen in real time. Keep it up!
Yes my friend.....and that feather Damascus would be a great start for the journeyman tests!
What‘s impressed me most is that you never gave up even with all the issues and problems. Great!
this is the best video i have seen so far talking about how to create a pattern. those images you showed really helped in understanding it more. thank you so much for this!
That was a big pile of work and dedication going into this fine piece of art. You, Sir, are a true craftsman.
I really enjoyed the quad-frame editing near the end.
that's a really great diagram, and frankly you explained it better than anyone i've ever heard it from.
Wow. What an exceptional read on that billet and stretching out the pattern profile. BRAVO. 😁👍
I understand nothing in the whole video of what you're doing and then you show that final product... It's insane, like magic!
The diagrams were very helpful, thank you very much.
I love watching someone explain this stuff and then on top of it make me feel less overwhelmed by it all with their humility of the explanation. That said, WOW does that thing look incredible, well done sir. AS some have already said, you don't give yourself anywhere near enough credit. Thanks for making it simple, but seriously, be proud of your work my man!
I loved the video. Huge respect to you for the taking the time to explain the methodology behind crafting this type of damascus. Stay amazing, GB.
That end feather looks really solid! Great job!
i have never seen a knife well crafted as the one in this video. rumble man rumble
Your willingness to adapt and change directions as needed is a real asset, one that most people’s egos do not allow. Bravo sir.
Video with audio: Makes it sound really difficult.
Video without audio: Makes it look very easy.
god I love Damascus steel it is so beautiful the way it makes those lines or waves just the best *SUBBING
IT IS NOT DAMASCUS STEEL MY FRIEND. IT IS ANYKIND OF GOOD STEEL. THE WAY OF MAKING IT WITH MANY LAYERS, CALLED DAMASCUS.
Go for it man. Been following your progress here and learning along with you. Fantastic work and good luck with the ABS JS. I let my ABS membership lapse 3 times in the past 10 years, hopefully this time, I'm on track to finally test in 19. ;)
One of the prettiest demascus patterns I’ve seen. Great job 👊🏼👍🏼
Your video kept me in suspense all the way along. It is the only one I've ever watched of Damascus steel being made without power tools. I am just a beginning knife maker myself, and I don't want to try what I just saw you do until I have many more knives under my belt.
what an awesome video !! So much informations, greeat Job !
Greeting from Germany
Damn. He litrally lost it when he had to make another billet.😂😂😂😂
That was brilliant, an exercise in determination and patience, really impressive and a very beautiful result. I’m a fan.
This is an absolutely stunning blade. I had to pause and stare for a while. It's great that you've also learned more about this process and that it's inspired you to try more things. Great vid too, I know nothing but somehow feel as if I've picked a few things up.
Anyone else who thinks that an alec steele and green beetle co-lab would be crazy. I.e they send each other a damascus billet.
Da Truth or went to each other's shop... Just sayin
Search DAMASCUS FAIL: FORGING DAMASCUS STEEL FOR GREENBEETLE on Mr. Steele's channel, he made a billet but there ended up being an issue with it.
Imagine a damascus equisite corpse, each smith takes it in turns to add to the pattern in some way, before returning the bar to square and sending it to the other smith, after 4 goes a blade gets made from the billet and the mystery pattern is revealed...oh and neither smith knows how the billet has been changed by the other one
I bet you'd get a really cool pattern....or a mess, either way sounds like fun
LordTeaOfBiscuits I would love to see something like that, however you would have to start with a fairly large billet.
They’re both on the same side of the pond now so someone needs to make road trip. Or they could both head to North Carolina and meet up with Liam Hoffman for a forgefest.
I'd be proud to own one of those blades for sure
I almost never like commentaries on stuff, as it just comes across annoying or blatantly obvious, but I absolutely love your thought process, jokes, and you have a well voice for this. I know this is 2 years old but I have watched so many of your videos, new as well. Hell, I did 5 miles on the bike at the gym last week watching one of your videos hahaha
this video is basically the forging version of me when i draw or write something. constantly starting over and scrapping the project, even when i probably didn't need to.
Subbed. This looks beautiful and I really appreciate the craftsmanship and the effort you put in this project. The result is absolutely amazing.
14:27 You had me in tears laughing.
I do not know how i missed that. Must have been fixated on his work, and not hearing what he was saying :-)
i completely overheard this the first time 😅
No. 2:00 on
I know smiths try and keep trade secrets a secret and all but it makes it really hard to start out on your blacksmithing adventure and learn how to do things correctly unless you're a lucky apprentice or just so happen across someone willing to teach you. The diagrams were a great help. Having this sort of information accessible this easily is a boon to everyone. It also shows up long this sort of thing can take when you don't have access to a power hammer or a press. Or just choose not to use them.
"so excuse this finish" man, this looks AMAZING. I would like to have one of these home. God damn
Make that Journey bro! You’ll be great!
that small knife needs to have a double edge with that awsome pattern.
egominer dagger!!!!
did u see how many layers of steel he use ??!!that knife is a heavy pice
Exactly what I was thinking!
yeah, i was thinking that too, the feather pattern calls for it. a beatiful small dagger.
This is GORGEOUS, I can’t get over it. Well done sir!
Man, i've watched only half of the video so far and i lost count on the billets! Great video, thank you for sharing all this 'secret information', very cool
Your videos are always great. My only complaint is they don't come out often enough.
thank you for this amazing work i am from syria and this type of forging is historical in syria
This is just fantastic. Thank you for putting all the details on how you made this. It came out beautiful.
Green Beetle, thanks for sharing it is amazing. You've made FORGED IN FIRE my second favorite black smithing show.
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Thank you, I enjoyed that.
I do not have the words (or money) to say how much I would love a blade like this! holy crap that is amazing!! I'm JUST getting into making my own bushcraft style like knife. I'm saving pennies to get a large bench vice and a some grinding wheels, and sand paper, once I have that I'm going to head down to metal mart and grab some kind of steel that would be good for making a blade and botch my way through it with 3-4 tools. Love your work man, if you ever want to sell one like that let me know!!
I want to try it too
I'm in NZ and a few folk make their own knives from saw wheels, from lumber yards. The really big ones. I've had a couple as a chef and they were beautiful. Do it.
Mild hardened steel with extra car which get from the heating off the carb coke fuel in a standard forge or a DIY forge
Normal angle iron is what the bloke here has used
Come to Damascus and buy one
Be proud, your journey is making you an impressive craftsman. The patterns came out beautiful. Thanks for sharing, and i agreed your diagrams are super helpful to understanding how the patterns work.
I really like this tutorial, and the pictures on screen make things a lot clearer too