They usually want you to say nothing shite about the brand. I don't think that is honest reviewing so I refuse to sign them. They send the wheels anyway because the exposure might be worth the risk. It doesn't always go well though, ref Peak Torque and his elite wheels, me and the ascent etc. On a more sinister note are other youtubers. I make bottom brackets and a few of them want bottom brackets for free. One youtuber even had the audacity to claim that a view on his channel was worth €500 and that's how much he charges others for viewing on his channel. Here's a copy of the transcript from whatsapp www.hambini.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/image.png
Pro triathlete here… I don’t have have a wheel sponsor and I am on a super budget. All my wheels are Light Carbon wheels. Road and Tri bikes with DT Swiss 350. I have 45, 50, 80, and disc wheel. I have had ZERO issues with any of the wheels and enjoy training and racing with them. The cost most definitely made me skeptical but after 3 1/2 years of use. I can say with confidence that they were more than justified and the price was unbeatable.
@@systemsbroken you are one of those people that provide a genuine open hearted help that is significantly more valuable than any corporation or sponsor can give! On behalf of the professional triathlon community(fast and slow ones 😂) thank you for helping all of them
Love your self styled epishodes. Your expert insight on component quality is appreciated, especially those bike parts that do not cost the same as my first helicopter.
Imagine being the tool that demands someone with a princess blanket workspace to sign a waiver. I mean seriously here..... I'd sign it only if the PEN IS WORKING!!!
Hi Hambini, Thanks for review, I have just ordered a Pro-X set (same as review), be careful Pro-X prefer Paypal and $, so extra fees (Paypal, currency exchanges, shipping, VAT + Import tax will take overall cost to around £500), (But still happy). Wheels are due later this month, I will update upon trial ride (November). NB - Pro-X so far have been very helpful and prompt (despite Holiday time-Golden Week in China). Best Regards.
Hi Hambini, ProX wheels have just arrived, exactly One month "Order to Door", (approx 1 week unplanned delay due to getting lost in UK????), email support from ProX was very good, Packaging was very good. Now need to build up and go for a spin.
Cassette and tyres assembled, New Conti's were an absolute pig to put on, suggest try with partial worn tyres first , I pumped up to 140psi and left overnight and tyres were still difficult to put on rim. On the road, wheels are great, as good as Bontrager Aeolus 3 (my other carbon wheels), braking is probably better that Bontrager. So far a great purchase. Thanks Hambini !!
Sorry, update, didn't realise there appears no import tax or VAT (currently????) So total cost was £393. Pretty outstanding. Due to weather had not had much time to ride with these wheels. But from short time usage all OK.
Nice to see a more robust/Cheaper Carbon option on the market for winter. Even if they are a bit of a Hambini special they do seem to inspire confidence in there construction.
They haven't made purchasing these wheels easy. Can't find a place to pick click and buy. This does keep me from my impulsiveness. LOL 🙃🤣 Thanks for the review. 👍
Meanwhile, in Italy... The cassette of my obscenely expensive top-tier groupset doesn't fit on the likewise obscenely expensive top-tier hub it's supposed to. In no other industry is price so completely removed from quality, or even maintaining basic manufacturing tolerances, as it is in cycling 😢
I 100% know you can only review what was put in front of you but there does seem like a 'Hambini Special' vibe going on. I enquired about the price of their wheelset with DT Swiss 240 hubs with Sapim CX-Ray spokes with the same rim, $USD779 plus $USD141 delivery including all costs (import charges etc) to Ireland which seems reasonable if the hubs/spokes are genuine. If I do pull the trigger my address will include "Hambini House" somewhere that doesn't confuse the postman. Another great review, thanks.
Might take a look and see if they sell the rims alone. I’d be interested in a set of heavy rims like that to build up with nicer hubs for day to day riding.
Awesome review as usual!!!!!! I use Scribe wheels. Very happy with them. But on my new build I'm using Zipp 303s. And my reason for that is I want a better warranty. These wheels remind me of the Scribes "probably great" reliable, cheap. And would be a great winter trying wheel. My only reservation here is. They could send a reply nice wheel for review. And be SHITE later on. So I went Zipp which compared to Scribe was $100 bucks more. But for $500 this wheel is a banging deal!
Zipp service and warranty is terrible. I had a set of wheels that were recalled due to the hubs being made of chocolate. The wheels disappeared for months on end before they were returned to me. Neither me nor the LBS were informed of where they were, or given an ETA we simply had to wait.
If you don't race and and rarely ride above 35 km/hr (or your hairdresser), how important are aero considerations? I just want something to that won't delaminate or blow up under high tire pressure or if I hit a pothole. What would be the rider weight limit for these wheels? And, if the bearings are not iso sized, is there still an an easy replacement available?
I have a set of LightCarbon wheels I have thousands of miles on and they are bomb proof. I'd venture to say they are as true as the day I bought them, but I don't have any means to provide scientific data to back that up. I've absolutely beat on these wheels too. Single MTB track included. I also bought another similar set from Carbonda to keep road tires on and the carbon hoops had near identical markings and labels on the inside. I wonder if all of these hoops are coming from a standard supplier.
@@Carftymk I bought the CGW01-700 wheelset (DT 350 hubs sapim cx-ray spokes) for a total of $595. The shipping was $90 and the paypal (4.5%) was $30 for a total of $715 to my door. I am still very happy with the 696, it is pretty much my "all road" bike lol.
There is a lot of money to be made in the "entry level racing" and training material by offering this kind of equipment at this price point. This segment has been neglected for years by the major brand. In order to be successful in this niche you have to have low production costs to maintain a reasonable margin, cut all the middle men and go for higher volume at a lower price. Look at how many wheelsets coming from the Far East that have been launch in the last three months with a direct sales model. My guess is that in ten years from now, the "traditional brand name" will either have heavily target the upper niche market to maintain their profitability, we will also see a continuation of the consolidation of the manufacturers (mergers, acquisitions) that we have witnessed in the last 10 years. Just look at Shimano who has already decided to drop the mechanical 105. I know shimano that is making cheaper groupsets but, it's because of their quasi monopole in the oem market of the lower end of the spectrum.
how does the manufacture of these compare to elite drive or something similar from light bicycle; i.e the rim itself as i would likely upgrade to a dt swiss hub option and the sapim spokes i guess. the rim brake surface grooves look similar to elite drive
I find a bit of extra weight in the rims is advantageous on the flat, as it seems easier to maintain speed. Great wheels, thanks for the review Mr Hambini.
Focussing skills on point in today's video. I'm interested in a second set of wheels for my gravel bike. Running a cheap set for actual road riding could be a good option
Taking into account all your comments on your past wheel reviews regarding desirable features and observations, in so far as they can be translated to other wheelsets, I believe the Reynolds Aero 46 wheels might be a good all purpose wheelset, - I'd be interested in an opinion...?
excellent show! time to send the whreel set to Kenny McAskill - let him ride the wheels without tires (!) stairs up and down, jumps from rocks, fences, etc.; which I think he did this before
you can get these rims built with sapim spokes and dt swiss hubs too. i'm thinking of giving that a go. how "heavy" can they possibly be? the 38 deep dt180 estimate weight is 1412 grams.
It looks like quality. Their hub options and spokes tell me that the rims must also be good quality! Where can I find prices for their wheels? And where do they sell them when there is no shop on the website??
Ordered a set of these after watching the video, albeit the 45-25 version (45 high, 25wide) to fit to Supersix Evo 2012. Also took the CX Ray spoke upgrade. Can't wait :) Would you recommend upgrading the bearings in these? If so, to which?
Here in the US, it's just crawling with punters who are looking for budget carbon wheels at an affordable price with decent performance. I can think of one budget brand in the country whose cheapest carbon wheels are USD $1500.00, and their alloy wheels are USD 400.00. And they're all relatively heavy for what they are. ProX basically blows the entire range out of the water. Based on your findings, I hope that American cyclists discover ProX, because they seem like genuine good quality for the money. And the budget brands - especially one in particular I shall not name - should just pack up and go home.
I wish you could also make a review for the Avian carbon wheelsets also from china, they claim to be also making rims for this one top uci wheel brand. They are also cheap around $500 for their 1500g 45mm carbon clincher disc wheels. they are also famous here in the philippines.
Been on a pair of 60mm Elite Carbon rim brake wheels for last 2 years I won’t touch anything else, sold on these strong ass wheels. Was about 650$ Canadian direct buy.
My experience on cheep Chinese products is wide quality variance on the same model. Sent item for review might be inspected and selected. What consumers receive is a different story.
Hello Hambini. From one Aeronautic Engineer to another, I have got this idea about minimising pressure drag on old round frames that forces us to keep up with the market and buy shite bike. What if the surface is roughed, increasing more turbulence hence delaying separation of flow (Baseball effect). Can't we add a lightweight plastic (sort of glued or attached) well painted at the end of the frame to increase the tail of the airflow hence reducing vortices. Let me know if my ideas are shite or not. I have run some couple of simulations on Ansys for the first method and I got a 20 percent reduction of pressure drag at the back of the wheel
I'd bet that was the method used in early prototyping for aero frames, the bonding of tails that is. Sounds like it would merely be fun(possibly eye-opening) experiment, and not really a marketable idea. It might be better to fully surround the round tube with small dimples in the material front section where most effective. I'm not schooled in aerodynamics, but why not have some fun trying to improve something you already own? Homebrew aero experiments have shown excellent results with cars and motorcycles. I'd build a semi-enclosed body for maybe a Suzuki Burgman if it wasn't such a suicidal rig alongside distracted drivers these days. Ugly golf ball dimples and all
@@bigshnitzeljesse I thought about it alot. I am desperate to experiment the change on my alloy Al3+ bike with round frame. I can still ride about 50kph with it on a false flat, but I can really fell the drag and its definition. For all of those with access to wind tunnels, may be this could be a game changer. Try to see the size of the holes and the separation it will make.
Hambini, have you tested these wheels on mountain descents? I don't trust any carbon clincher in the mountains anymore due to tire blow-offs. What is your comment on safety of these wheels?
Sounds pretty interesting. Considering getting one pair of these. Does anyone know if the 21/28, wider rim can fit in the 6800 Ultegra calipers with 28mm 5000s Contis on them?
Please do some MTB chinese carbon wheels! We have some good choices for road wheels now that you've reviewed a bunch but I'm really interested in knowing the quality of some of these chinese MTB rims. cheers
Private import is expensive because of VAT + other taxes depending on particular EU country are are in + shipping for bulky items. When they start stocking wheels and frames in EU warehouses, price could change - but I rather feel middlemen are setting up "bike companies" and distribute same goods.
Perhaps you were unclear, but you seemed to find it remarkable that the spokes were steel. At this prices range what else would they be. Further you suggested that these offered more vibration dampening, but compared to what? Based on the dampening, you posited that the wheels would be more flexible, again versus what? When and why would you consider more or less flexible wheels advantageous. Finally, when discussing wheel flexibility, you ignored lacing patterns and ga. of spokes.
This looks like a fair price for -plastic- composite wheels. Do 2K$ wheels do 5x better? Of course no, they are lighter, are manufactured (or branded) by better known company and generally, needed by very narrow segment of cyclists.
One of my sets of alu wheels with sapim aero are bit lighter, plus a way better free hub and I have iso bearings. BUT they cost more than double!. Looks legit to me if the quality is good.
@@aitorbleda8267 what is your aluminum rim and what hub and spokes do you use on them? Also the weight please? I’m considering getting alu wheels in the future because I mostly ride in hills so aero doesn’t make much difference to me
Do you have any recommendations for budget disc wheels for a gravel/adventure bike driven by a fat bastard? My brick ass had already torn some cheapo aluminium rear wheels apart and I think the inevitable failure of my current "durable double butted" aluminium wheel is just around the corner.
Probably. I bought a set of Yeoleo wheels with Novatec hubs for my 2017 Giant Defy Advance 2 and they fit perfectly. You can go to the robert axle project website (robertaxleproject.com/) and print out their axle measurement tool to see what the dimensions are for your axles. You can also get a cheap set of measuring calipers from Amazon or your local hardware store to verify the dimensions of your hub/frame spacing.
what kind of agreements do wheel companies make you sign?
They usually want you to say nothing shite about the brand. I don't think that is honest reviewing so I refuse to sign them. They send the wheels anyway because the exposure might be worth the risk. It doesn't always go well though, ref Peak Torque and his elite wheels, me and the ascent etc. On a more sinister note are other youtubers. I make bottom brackets and a few of them want bottom brackets for free. One youtuber even had the audacity to claim that a view on his channel was worth €500 and that's how much he charges others for viewing on his channel. Here's a copy of the transcript from whatsapp www.hambini.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/image.png
@@Hambini which youtuber was it?
@@theillegalimmigrant9314 I don't think he'll disclose that😂
@@Hambini please name and shame this youtuber
@@ridhwanpatel7265 I'll make them sweat first
Pro triathlete here… I don’t have have a wheel sponsor and I am on a super budget. All my wheels are Light Carbon wheels. Road and Tri bikes with DT Swiss 350. I have 45, 50, 80, and disc wheel.
I have had ZERO issues with any of the wheels and enjoy training and racing with them.
The cost most definitely made me skeptical but after 3 1/2 years of use. I can say with confidence that they were more than justified and the price was unbeatable.
Nice, in the years I have had more than on (a dozen or so) Pro tri folks stay in my home....dirt poor, fast as hell and as nice as anyone on earth....
@@systemsbroken you are one of those people that provide a genuine open hearted help that is significantly more valuable than any corporation or sponsor can give!
On behalf of the professional triathlon community(fast and slow ones 😂) thank you for helping all of them
Out of curiosity. How much did the 45 and 50 sets cost you each?
Love your self styled epishodes. Your expert insight on component quality is appreciated, especially those bike parts that do not cost the same as my first helicopter.
Imagine being the tool that demands someone with a princess blanket workspace to sign a waiver. I mean seriously here..... I'd sign it only if the PEN IS WORKING!!!
Nice to see quality alternatives to all the expensive wheels. Thanks for reviewing.
I’m concerned the set you received was a “golden sample” from the marketing department.
I bought a set of iCAN wheels a year ago and they have been good. Light, strong, and don't stop too well.
Thanks!
Thankyou!
Own three wheelsets ( 2x gravel and 1x roadbike): perfect quality, no issues at all.
Still good?
I really should turn the volume down for your intros. Gets me everytime!
Pretty sure that’s the point…..…I’ve obviously got Stockholm’s syndrome as I’ve started to weirdly look forward to it haha
Hi Hambini, Thanks for review, I have just ordered a Pro-X set (same as review), be careful Pro-X prefer Paypal and $, so extra fees (Paypal, currency exchanges, shipping, VAT + Import tax will take overall cost to around £500), (But still happy). Wheels are due later this month, I will update upon trial ride (November). NB - Pro-X so far have been very helpful and prompt (despite Holiday time-Golden Week in China). Best Regards.
Hi Hambini, ProX wheels have just arrived, exactly One month "Order to Door", (approx 1 week unplanned delay due to getting lost in UK????), email support from ProX was very good, Packaging was very good. Now need to build up and go for a spin.
Cassette and tyres assembled, New Conti's were an absolute pig to put on, suggest try with partial worn tyres first , I pumped up to 140psi and left overnight and tyres were still difficult to put on rim.
On the road, wheels are great, as good as Bontrager Aeolus 3 (my other carbon wheels), braking is probably better that Bontrager. So far a great purchase. Thanks Hambini !!
@@stevenhomer39 Any update since you last posted?
Sorry, update, didn't realise there appears no import tax or VAT (currently????) So total cost was £393. Pretty outstanding. Due to weather had not had much time to ride with these wheels. But from short time usage all OK.
@@stevenhomer39 Thanks for that 👌
Nice to see a more robust/Cheaper Carbon option on the market for winter. Even if they are a bit of a Hambini special they do seem to inspire confidence in there construction.
They haven't made purchasing these wheels easy. Can't find a place to pick click and buy. This does keep me from my impulsiveness. LOL 🙃🤣
Thanks for the review. 👍
you need to e-mail them from their website and go back and forth
Nice - great that these are rim brake wheels too! Tempted :-) Appreciate your honest and clearly spoken reviews!!
Airbus Portal Navigation - go on, give us a sneaky peek!
Meanwhile, in Italy... The cassette of my obscenely expensive top-tier groupset doesn't fit on the likewise obscenely expensive top-tier hub it's supposed to.
In no other industry is price so completely removed from quality, or even maintaining basic manufacturing tolerances, as it is in cycling 😢
Dentistry in my experience!
I want to think that's why I don't buy Ferraris
I 100% know you can only review what was put in front of you but there does seem like a 'Hambini Special' vibe going on. I enquired about the price of their wheelset with DT Swiss 240 hubs with Sapim CX-Ray spokes with the same rim, $USD779 plus $USD141 delivery including all costs (import charges etc) to Ireland which seems reasonable if the hubs/spokes are genuine. If I do pull the trigger my address will include "Hambini House" somewhere that doesn't confuse the postman. Another great review, thanks.
Might take a look and see if they sell the rims alone. I’d be interested in a set of heavy rims like that to build up with nicer hubs for day to day riding.
that's a good idea and worth a look.
@@Hambini I had a look and they do sell rims for wheel building and from first glance they appear to be the same type and design.
how "heavy" can they possibly be?
Awesome review as usual!!!!!! I use Scribe wheels. Very happy with them. But on my new build I'm using Zipp 303s. And my reason for that is I want a better warranty. These wheels remind me of the Scribes "probably great" reliable, cheap. And would be a great winter trying wheel. My only reservation here is. They could send a reply nice wheel for review. And be SHITE later on. So I went Zipp which compared to Scribe was $100 bucks more. But for $500 this wheel is a banging deal!
Zipp service and warranty is terrible. I had a set of wheels that were recalled due to the hubs being made of chocolate. The wheels disappeared for months on end before they were returned to me. Neither me nor the LBS were informed of where they were, or given an ETA we simply had to wait.
@@kidkarbon4775 mmm. chocolate. Milk or dark? Any nuts?
Great video! Could you please explain the significance of the bearings not being 'ISO size". Thank you Hambini
I am very keen to find out more about their 'ProX 3-Spoke Carbon Wheel 27mm Wide Aero 700C Tri Spoke Wheels'.
If you don't race and and rarely ride above 35 km/hr (or your hairdresser), how important are aero considerations? I just want something to that won't delaminate or blow up under high tire pressure or if I hit a pothole. What would be the rider weight limit for these wheels?
And, if the bearings are not iso sized, is there still an an easy replacement available?
@ Hambini and others, which brake pads do you recommend? Which are gentle on rims, but brake well? Hard choice, there are million models
these wheels might have been specially made for you to review .... are we sure the production would be the same ?
Maybe send them to Hambini if they are not. That would be interesting.
No. go n buy 2000€ zipp wheels. Their shareholders need to buy their fifth mansion in bahamas.
Product "Samples" sent to a Marketing dept. are usually selected, off-line built and parts used may not be the same as production run.
I have these and they are fing brilliant 👍
Production is probably better
Hambi you should do a vid of you building your own wheels, choosing the parts and all
true, but can he true wheels?
It's actually quite easy to get carbon wheel in this price in Asia, non-branded rim with novatec/powerway hubs
I have a set of LightCarbon wheels I have thousands of miles on and they are bomb proof. I'd venture to say they are as true as the day I bought them, but I don't have any means to provide scientific data to back that up. I've absolutely beat on these wheels too. Single MTB track included. I also bought another similar set from Carbonda to keep road tires on and the carbon hoops had near identical markings and labels on the inside. I wonder if all of these hoops are coming from a standard supplier.
that's great, what wheels did you get from carbonda and how much did they cost? are you still happy with your 696 too?
@@Carftymk I bought the CGW01-700 wheelset (DT 350 hubs sapim cx-ray spokes) for a total of $595. The shipping was $90 and the paypal (4.5%) was $30 for a total of $715 to my door. I am still very happy with the 696, it is pretty much my "all road" bike lol.
Nicely Done, thanks for sharing!
There is a lot of money to be made in the "entry level racing" and training material by offering this kind of equipment at this price point. This segment has been neglected for years by the major brand. In order to be successful in this niche you have to have low production costs to maintain a reasonable margin, cut all the middle men and go for higher volume at a lower price. Look at how many wheelsets coming from the Far East that have been launch in the last three months with a direct sales model.
My guess is that in ten years from now, the "traditional brand name" will either have heavily target the upper niche market to maintain their profitability, we will also see a continuation of the consolidation of the manufacturers (mergers, acquisitions) that we have witnessed in the last 10 years.
Just look at Shimano who has already decided to drop the mechanical 105. I know shimano that is making cheaper groupsets but, it's because of their quasi monopole in the oem market of the lower end of the spectrum.
I suspect that a significant number of the "traditional brand names" are just badge engineering already.
The rim and braking surface looks very similar to the Winspace LUN Road rim. Same factory perhaps?
Just got a quote for a pair of 28 wide 38 deep disc brake wheels. £788 delivered to UK. Not expensive but not crazy cheap.
Great review. when's the reaming for the 30mm rotor track crankset dropping? 😵
how does the manufacture of these compare to elite drive or something similar from light bicycle; i.e the rim itself as i would likely upgrade to a dt swiss hub option and the sapim spokes i guess.
the rim brake surface grooves look similar to elite drive
You're really big in the Philippines, what you said is good-they buy it.
The Hambini stamp of approval. Priceless!
I find a bit of extra weight in the rims is advantageous on the flat, as it seems easier to maintain speed. Great wheels, thanks for the review Mr Hambini.
Focussing skills on point in today's video. I'm interested in a second set of wheels for my gravel bike. Running a cheap set for actual road riding could be a good option
Taking into account all your comments on your past wheel reviews regarding desirable features and observations, in so far as they can be translated to other wheelsets, I believe the Reynolds Aero 46 wheels might be a good all purpose wheelset, - I'd be interested in an opinion...?
excellent show! time to send the whreel set to Kenny McAskill - let him ride the wheels without tires (!) stairs up and down, jumps from rocks, fences, etc.; which I think he did this before
Thanks Brokowski!!! Pulled the trigger~ boom sauce
you can get these rims built with sapim spokes and dt swiss hubs too. i'm thinking of giving that a go. how "heavy" can they possibly be? the 38 deep dt180 estimate weight is 1412 grams.
Another brand called Boreas seems to be using the same hubs, and also with about the same price.
Would love to see a chart of 50-0km/h braking distances of different rims with a Sun CR-18 as a baseline.
Have you reviewed any Light Bicycle wheels? I have been using them for years on my mtbs but would be curious to hear your opinion.
It looks like quality. Their hub options and spokes tell me that the rims must also be good quality!
Where can I find prices for their wheels? And where do they sell them when there is no shop on the website??
@Hambini any experience with the Novatec hubs? I have a set of 172s and I can't find any real life info on them
Hambini doing his Sean Connery,James Bond impression....'so what time do you get to Wimbledon to watch the tennis Mr.Bond?.…....... 'Oh about tennish.
Shows how crazy expensive bike stuff is when nearly 400 quid is considered cheap
Ordered a set of these after watching the video, albeit the 45-25 version (45 high, 25wide) to fit to Supersix Evo 2012. Also took the CX Ray spoke upgrade. Can't wait :)
Would you recommend upgrading the bearings in these? If so, to which?
I wouldn't change the bearings until they fail. If they do fail, I would go for NTN
@@Hambini many thanks chief. Hopefully they won't disappoint
Seem to remember Peak Torque saying he built up rims from light carbon may have imagined that though!
Have you done any reviews on aluminum wheels. I ride on roads with 22% gradients and pot holes big enough to lose your dog in so I don't trust carbon.
Intriguing! They seem to sell rims too - what spokes/hubs would you recommend?
some hubs with iSO bearings and probably the carbon spokes that farspors/winspace use
@@Hambini any go to brands for hubs?
@@Hambini what do you think with cheap hubs like Novatec a171sb?
@@Lacking_something I am unsure who farsports and winspace use as their OEM but they are good
@@Lacking_something can't go wrong with DTswiss imo
As long as it wont kill me, its good enough.
Here in the US, it's just crawling with punters who are looking for budget carbon wheels at an affordable price with decent performance. I can think of one budget brand in the country whose cheapest carbon wheels are USD $1500.00, and their alloy wheels are USD 400.00. And they're all relatively heavy for what they are. ProX basically blows the entire range out of the water. Based on your findings, I hope that American cyclists discover ProX, because they seem like genuine good quality for the money. And the budget brands - especially one in particular I shall not name - should just pack up and go home.
Here in the US, nobody says "punter". are you British?
@@charliedillon1400 No. But I fucked Princess Diana in the ass once. She was a really dirty talker.
@@charliedillon1400 in the US, punters are football players. Real football. NFL
Great, a lot of criteria for wheels I now know. Front mtn. wheel delaminated so watching was entertainment.
Hey Hambini, enjoy the videos, have you any experience or take on scope wheels? Looking at the rim brake r5 version for racing.
Will the aero gains be worth the extra weight over my stock checkpoint 5 alr aluminum wheels? This may be a dumb question. I'm also polish...
RIP the ProX website!
I wish you could also make a review for the Avian carbon wheelsets also from china, they claim to be also making rims for this one top uci wheel brand. They are also cheap around $500 for their 1500g 45mm carbon clincher disc wheels. they are also famous here in the philippines.
I'm on their 50mm rim brake wheelset. Aside from needing a bit of truing at the outset, they've been great for the past 1800kms.
@@jjtang388 thanks man i just got mine and yet to try them on
Great video. Thanks.
Been on a pair of 60mm Elite Carbon rim brake wheels for last 2 years I won’t touch anything else, sold on these strong ass wheels. Was about 650$ Canadian direct buy.
My experience on cheep Chinese products is wide quality variance on the same model.
Sent item for review might be inspected and selected. What consumers receive is a different story.
Thats how it works for all product reviews.. You think that gcn etc are buying $12000 bikes every week
@@JogBird What?! They are not buying £12.000 products every week?
With that in mind, try their warranty first. If that doesn't work out, then send it to Hambini for roasting.
Please can you review a set of scribe wheels…
Hello Hambini. From one Aeronautic Engineer to another, I have got this idea about minimising pressure drag on old round frames that forces us to keep up with the market and buy shite bike.
What if the surface is roughed, increasing more turbulence hence delaying separation of flow (Baseball effect).
Can't we add a lightweight plastic (sort of glued or attached) well painted at the end of the frame to increase the tail of the airflow hence reducing vortices.
Let me know if my ideas are shite or not.
I have run some couple of simulations on Ansys for the first method and I got a 20 percent reduction of pressure drag at the back of the wheel
I'd bet that was the method used in early prototyping for aero frames, the bonding of tails that is. Sounds like it would merely be fun(possibly eye-opening) experiment, and not really a marketable idea. It might be better to fully surround the round tube with small dimples in the material front section where most effective. I'm not schooled in aerodynamics, but why not have some fun trying to improve something you already own? Homebrew aero experiments have shown excellent results with cars and motorcycles. I'd build a semi-enclosed body for maybe a Suzuki Burgman if it wasn't such a suicidal rig alongside distracted drivers these days. Ugly golf ball dimples and all
@@bigshnitzeljesse I thought about it alot. I am desperate to experiment the change on my alloy Al3+ bike with round frame. I can still ride about 50kph with it on a false flat, but I can really fell the drag and its definition.
For all of those with access to wind tunnels, may be this could be a game changer. Try to see the size of the holes and the separation it will make.
Sounds like a great wheelset for some gravel grinding.
The pitfall of course is that they just send a pair of wheels that came out perfect, so it's heavily biased.
Hambini, Could you comment on the relevance of non-ISO sized bearings? 15267 looks like an easily obtained bearing as far as I can tell.
it's not easy to get from a tier 1 bearing supplier. ie NTN, SKF, NSK, FAG - it's difficult to get. You can get them in no name chinese all day.
I keep NBK 15267 for replacement on repairs
Their website seems tricky -- each model has several rim depths and widths availalble. Are certain models redundant?
Hi 👋 any plans on reviewing Hunt or Scribe carbon wheels?
Hunt will be reamed shortly.
Hambini, have you tested these wheels on mountain descents? I don't trust any carbon clincher in the mountains anymore due to tire blow-offs. What is your comment on safety of these wheels?
No answer?
Can't find anywhere that sells them, it looks to me that the Pro X website is set up for trade enquiries. No mention of the price you've mentioned.
You have to request a, quote, came back to me within 12 hours.
Sounds pretty interesting. Considering getting one pair of these. Does anyone know if the 21/28, wider rim can fit in the 6800 Ultegra calipers with 28mm 5000s Contis on them?
So this would be a better choice instead of alu wheelset at around same price and weight??
Please do some MTB chinese carbon wheels! We have some good choices for road wheels now that you've reviewed a bunch but I'm really interested in knowing the quality of some of these chinese MTB rims. cheers
I googled but it doesn't tell me, how come non iso is a disadvantage. Explains it as a dimension measurement lingo. Plz enlighten.
the pink shirt really made my pen work
how much would shipping be to western europe? would it be 150+ euros like frames from china?
Private import is expensive because of VAT + other taxes depending on particular EU country are are in + shipping for bulky items.
When they start stocking wheels and frames in EU warehouses, price could change - but I rather feel middlemen are setting up "bike companies" and distribute same goods.
hambini are you sure its isnt cherry picked?
it could be but the only thing you can really do is check the rims. these passed a UT and borescope.
would be interested to know the difference between the rim and DB version
@@FmRadioGaming11 sorry not quite sure what you mean, inbox above. j
They don't seem to post wheelset weights on their site, unless I'm blind?
i do see wheelset weights. what wheel are you looking at? scroll down to some spreadsheet
How do you actually buy these wheels, all I have seen is an "inquiry" button (the misspelling of enquiry makes my eyes bleed but hey") ?
you reckon one can run 23mm tires on thems 25mm rims?
Perhaps you were unclear, but you seemed to find it remarkable that the spokes were steel. At this prices range what else would they be. Further you suggested that these offered more vibration dampening, but compared to what? Based on the dampening, you posited that the wheels would be more flexible, again versus what? When and why would you consider more or less flexible wheels advantageous. Finally, when discussing wheel flexibility, you ignored lacing patterns and ga. of spokes.
140 usd shipping brings them up to Elite wheels pricepoint
I feel sick knowing what I paid for my Rovals. 😣
Maybe good wheels for cx?
HELLOOO Hambini,
Are there any decent Chinese wheels for cyclocross?
cyclo Cross wheels are just road wheels, maybe a sticker change/marketing
Farsport have a gravel specific rim, it would be interesting from an engineering perspective to compare it to the ventoux road range.
@@firedoody gravel rims tend to be wider for bigger tyres
Who can compete with these wheels for the price (or close to the price)?
kind of sounds like they're just thermoforming a strong plastic for the rims
when's the Winspace review dropping
next week on patreon
those rims are seriously THICC.
Non ISO sized bearings? Ahhhh damn. Could be a deal killer.
This looks like a fair price for -plastic- composite wheels. Do 2K$ wheels do 5x better? Of course no, they are lighter, are manufactured (or branded) by better known company and generally, needed by very narrow segment of cyclists.
One of my sets of alu wheels with sapim aero are bit lighter, plus a way better free hub and I have iso bearings. BUT they cost more than double!. Looks legit to me if the quality is good.
@@aitorbleda8267 what is your aluminum rim and what hub and spokes do you use on them? Also the weight please? I’m considering getting alu wheels in the future because I mostly ride in hills so aero doesn’t make much difference to me
@@binshuo
mAVIC KSYRIUM SL DISC, 1575gr. Do note they cost more and weight about the same, and shallow, but are mavic.. that is good and bad.
Considering the similar weight, what are the advantages of these (relatively) heavy carbon rim wheels over ~same price aluminium rim wheels?
Good question.buy Hunt alloy gonna weigh same plus bombproof.
Considering air resistance goes up with the qube of speed the aero trumps weight unless you are climb racing
They do offer some lighter wheels with carbon spokes for a reasonable price
looks like Elite standard wheels,hubs are generic and manufacturers stamp their brand on them, strange bearing selection though,seem good value
they've gotten quite expensive though. no real contenders for that price, and they have their own hubs in them too
What's with the mumbling?
Do you have any recommendations for budget disc wheels for a gravel/adventure bike driven by a fat bastard? My brick ass had already torn some cheapo aluminium rear wheels apart and I think the inevitable failure of my current "durable double butted" aluminium wheel is just around the corner.
DT Swiss G540 with lots of spokes and the best hub in your budget..
@@dan44zzt231 don't bother with the cheaper sleeve joint DT rims, Kinlin rims in this price point are better.
the high end DT rims are very good
I get that they are light but would prob rather have Shimano hubs with Mavic rims and DT but I shake my fist at clouds
Will these wheels fit my giant Tcr 2 2021
Probably. I bought a set of Yeoleo wheels with Novatec hubs for my 2017 Giant Defy Advance 2 and they fit perfectly. You can go to the robert axle project website (robertaxleproject.com/) and print out their axle measurement tool to see what the dimensions are for your axles. You can also get a cheap set of measuring calipers from Amazon or your local hardware store to verify the dimensions of your hub/frame spacing.
your giant 2021 is probably disc brakes. the wheels in the video are rim brake only so no, but they do have disc options
Prox also make motorcycle engine parts. Seem to be good quality.
no they're not.
@@alfabethev2.074 Why do you feel they are poor?