The Story of the Moby Prince | A Short Documentary | Fascinating Horror
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- "On the 10th of April 1991, the Moby Prince - an Italian passenger ferry - collided with another ship, resulting in an oil fire on the deck of the Moby Prince..."
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I'm not sure what's scarier about these videos, the fact that I could die in a freak accident due to somebody else's tiny mistake, or the fact that my own tiny mistake could cause a freak accident that kills hundreds of people 🤔
Both are scary
The outcome rarely represent the severity of the failing.
How do you punish the guilty, by the crime or by the harm?
@@brucebaxter6923 Both.
@@brucebaxter6923 It depends on the crime and/or how much harm said crime caused.
Wouldn't reccomend anything from the Final Destination franchise to you then....
Sounds pretty clear the captain of the tanker told responders the other ship wasn't that big or in real danger because he was worried about his own ship. It's really not possible to mistake a tug for a passenger ship that can hold 1k+ people.
Yeah, i dont see how you can collide with a ship, get stuck to it, maneuver away from it, then misidentify it
Whoa, we got a tugboat expert here. Do you even know how big the average tug boat is? Do you think they're all the same size? Jesus H Christ
@@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit pretty sure the average tug boat is smaller than a 1200 passenger ferry.
Happy to be proved wrong.
I'd say the average harbor tug is about as big as the tug right there in the thumbnail. Considering it took place in a harbor.
@@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit I used to work on tug boats AND ferry’s. Our ferry only held 600 people and it was damn bigger than the average tug boat. So you can quit with that condescending attitude. Fool.
Dude tried to say it was a tug boat knowing damn well they're going to prioritize whoever had more passengers on board.
damn, hadn't even thought of that O_O
wow. that bastard.
A terrible captain, but not as terrible as the captain who ignored the sinking titanic.
Surprised that the survivor didn't wait for him outside of the bastard's house, just waiting for that moment when he could get him.
Italy is corrupt so I wouldn’t be surprised the captain wanted to save himself.
Just a gut feeling here: A ferry that *routinely* makes this exact drive without incidence suddenly running into an achored ship - sounds to me *very much* like that ship was anchored in a place it shouldn't have been. Like you'd run into a sofa if someone had secretly switched up your furniture.
And the fact that he "mistook" that big-ass ferry for a small tugboat is just beyond suspicious.
military ships are hidden from the plebs lol
@@geateti6311 So? The military ship would know about the ferry, and still shouldn't be there.
Must have been one hell of a tugboat to cause so much damage to a large oil tanker. Honestly, not one of the responding clots thought "You know, that's an awful lot of damage to have been from a tug boat..."
If this was at night, at sea, wouldn't the fire from the liner been visible?
I wasn't paying attention and walked into my garden wagon that is kept near my front door.
Complacency, really. Complacency can affect any man and sometimes with more severe consequences than a scar with a lame backstory.
The anchored ship would still have shown up on radar as would any military ships, As much as the tanker captain made things much worse, the ferry hit a ship at anchor and is to blame.
Ever since I started watching Fascinating Horror I find myself being more careful in everything I do. Particularly, when I’m driving on the highway I swear I can hear the FH music playing in my head with the narrator’s voice saying something like, “what he didn’t know, was that the operator of the oncoming vehicle was texting on his cellular phone....”
The Final Destination movies did it for me. Lotta nopes.
@@thejudgmentalcat Yep, Final Destination sure messed up my brain ever since I saw it all those years ago....
1000 Way to Die did it for me!
@@shallendor I don't know about specifically being more cautious, but with "1000 Ways to Die" I've built a habit of considering the aftermath of some of the dumb shit I do get involved with.
"Now, if this goes horribly sideways, will it be totally awesome as a freak accident or another REALLY stupid thing for my family to have to live down?" ;o)
😂 I find myself humming this tune at random times. Maybe a sign I'm in some kind of danger...
this is the kind of channel You tell yourself that youre watching just one video, but end up watching everything
I did that when I found this channel a few weeks ago and now I'm thirsty for every single video that comes out.
Yeah
This is the kind of channel you wish you could discover over again!
@@isortofyoutube I thought I was the only one, this channel is like a drug
Every time!
It's absolutely incredible that the captain of that tanker claimed it was a tug (after spending time trying to separate from the ship he collided with...) and didn't tell that to the rescue ships. That guy should be in prison for life.
Yes, I agree. He holds a lot of accountability for misinforming firefighters - a true disgrace.
Absolutely
To be fair his own ship caught fire and he could've been in a panic for his crew or in complete shock.
There was 30 crew on there, it couldn't have been only the captain who saw the cruise ship. Yet they all didn't say otherwise?
I can see what i assume what happened is the Agip Abruzzo was parked in the Exit Cone of the port and as such the Moby Prince Collided with the Agip Abruzzo as it was exiting port after then the captain then called it off as a Tug boat to prioritize rescue on his vessel despite getting clear vision of what had hit him since he had maneuvered his ship to detach the collision which would require eyesight of the boats collision. And from video of the Moby Prince showing out the windows the weather was fair so fog was minimal at best and a tug boat wouldn't be as large as a passenger cruiser meaning the damage would have been less substantial if it were one. It also doesn't help the captain of the Agip Abruzzo revised his testimony on the location of his ship and the captain logs which would reveal that point is conveniently missing that's why I am not buying it.
Maybe it was just an over-sized tugboat?
How the hell do you fail to notice a ship that's on fire for over an hour?
And on top of that, how do you mistake a goddam tug boat with a ship? You’re really telling me they thought a TUG BOAT caused that fire? HOW?
This is enraging
@@kylanoble8669 Like someone else said, they probably knew but said it was a tugboat since rescuers would go to the ship with more passengers.
@@highadmiraljt5853 Plus they might have been more concerned with the valuable oil than the passengers.
@@kylanoble8669 I can almost guarantee the Captain of the tanker said it was a tug boat not a passenger ship because priority would've been given to the passenger ship with more people on it.
Fog.
How the CRAP did they think a tugboat could do that much damage?
I'm wondering why no one from the tanker told them about the other ship!
@@vinawaldren6888 yeah, it is frustrating
Exactly. It sounds grossly incompetent.
I actually wondered if the tanker captain was prioritizing his own ship. Such a gross error seems impossible even under the greatest stress.
I'd guess visibility was limited with the big oil fire going on.
I hate to say it, but suffocating is far better than what I had been thinking. Baking to death is quite a bit worse in my mind than slowly going to sleep from carbon monoxide.
Agreed....I'd rather just drift off than be cooked.
yeah it was what happened to that colony in the original Gundam
Yeah, I thought the same when he mentioned the cause of death.
@@plumdutchess the colony drop thing or better than getting cooked
Yes, I was expecting him saying they died from the heat surrounding them. I'm glad it wasn't that, even though their situation was still nightmarish.
The feeling they must have felt as they waited and realized they werent going to be rescued must have been horrifying
From when we start school we're told to listen to people in charge or in some sort of silly uniform. Well I take my dad's advice no ones got a clue so if you get get that funny feeling in your belly. Start getting busy boy
@@martinmunnelly5475 When your shit gets stolen or house starts burning, who do you call? The people in some sort of silly uniforms
@@TheSuspectOnFoot I did twice in 3 years of no use whatsoever second time two kids in a silly uniform turned up and shrugged their shoulders and told me burglary isn't really a police matter anymore but I don't think the drug dealers up the road are either. So it's just a silly uniform
Yeah, and imagine those who potentially survived that room, and saw hope when they got to the deck only to die due to the immense heat...
What really got to me was the ones in the room believing they would be rescued and not knowing that, by staying in the room, they were slowly going to die.
This is the only English speaking Moby Prince doc on TH-cam. Thank you!
Racist
@@blackonblackcrimelmao2023 not really
@@blackonblackcrimelmao2023 what
I’ve seen another one on here Amanda and it’s longer, it’s on one of the disasters at sea docs 👌☮️❤️
@@blackonblackcrimelmao2023 How is being thankful for a YT video about the Moby Prince being in the language you speak racist?
“Mate, if you do not help us then we will burn.” So scary knowing that the person who said this died.
That's haunting
@@juliem540 Not really, the guy was frustrated that no responses were coming and he was probably in panic
@@juliem540 it was a last ditch effort, what else would you say?
@@juliem540 placed in the exact situation, I might say something along those lines, even if he or she is someone I have never met. The ship is burning, I am fucked, I will seek help from anyone who responded.
Why is it scary? His vessel was on fire and he knew if they did not get help they would die. Its fact and sadly it happened.
no way he actually believed that they collided with a tugboat. no freaking way.
Tugboats are very sturdy, and have an extremely powerful engine package. Oversized propeller/s, etc. If the captain wasn't on deck (happened at night, so it's possible), then also he'd be repeating what an, also, most likely asleep sailor told him. Add Italy into the mix, I'm Italian, so trust me, even if they saw the whole ferry lit up with party illumination hit the tanker, they would've said it was a tugboat, and gotten away with it. OH WAIT! Right, that's... what happened!
@D Parkinson Excuse me sir, you're bringing true data and valuable info where it doesn't belong. Of course they would've seen the ferry while conducting the separation maneouvers, but that would've been the truth, absolutely unacceptable in any shape of Italian justice. :-P
Um do you have any idea how valuable all that oil was? I bet the captain and local government did. The givaway is the old "nobody knows nothing" conclusion.
I think what happened is the Captain of the Agip Abruzzo panicked, wanting his own ship rescued, thinking because he didn't see the Moby Prince on fire it was fine.
It's amazing how everyone is a special in this, the captain of the oil tanker would not of seen what hit them at any point, as the maritime rules in Italy is to go straight away below deck and help with preventing the ship from sinking, being an oil tanker that takes priority over anything else! Preventing a major oil spill, at no point is the captain intrusion is to check see what hit them, at that point the oil tanker is on fire, the rules then is to stay at the bow of the ship to stay away from dangerous hot oil and smoke. Going by them martime rules the captain would of not see what hit them.
My dad was a captain at sea. He said the worst thing he ever experienced (and there were many horrors spanning about 20 years) was listening on the radio as fire raged on another ship. He listened to people waiting to die, knowing what was coming, then dying. I believe he said they were trapped in an engine control room, as fire raged outside in the engines. It scarred my dad for life and he often says fire on a ship is just about the worst thing that can happen at sea.
guess yur dad never heard of lifeboats
I've watched these all week - very interesting. From what I have seen so far, the Nutty Putty Cave is the most horrific for me.
Oh, fuck the Nutty Putty Caves one. That one is just awful.
I agree!
I couldn't finish watching that one 🥺
For me it's between that and the Dreamworld River Rapids disaster. I think the river rapids is even more terrifying cause of the completely brutal way the four people died, and in such a short time span. But Nutty Putty is horrifying cause of what the one guy had to endure and for how long it lasted.
Oh it absolutely killed my love of caving
The only survivor didn't just jump in the water, he waited for one hour and a half hanging off the side of the burning ship, soaked in water, before getting rescued...
doesn't that imply jumping into the water tho?
@@tonalddrump2712 read it again, slower.
smart guy
@@JasonJason210 I read about him, it seems he has pretty horrible PTSD from this, but still he has a couple of children and a family and a decent house, those things wouldn't have come had it not been for that quick thinking.
That saved his life, another guy was found in the water the day after but he drowned in oil leaked from the ship
I like how everyone was trying to place blame on the Moby prince crew in order to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing.
The dead can't defend themselves.
I actually think that the crew of the Moby Prince are the only ones who come across as having tried to do the right thing. I think the major proportion of the blame lies with the crew of the Oil Tanker.
@Nolan Is Innocent in an ironic sense
@@dangerousandy how?....they forgot to switch off the engines and AC they might have survived had the ship stayed motionless near the tanker they might have survived had the ac been switched off....these were the errors of the crew
@@leaveme3559 and the captain of the tanker misreported the type of boat that collided with them. Disasters like this are frequently the culmination of small seemingly innocuous errors from everyone involved.
That final picture was just chilling. The blackened ships and smoke rising high into the air
Yeah, but who took the picture The two vessels are very close together
@@musicbruv it’s being pulled past by tugboats - you can just make them out
Sounds like the other boat that reported a small tug boat was just lying to help save them first
Yeah. More than likely. What scumbags.
That single lie killed a lot of people. If he didn't pay for that with his own life, there's no God.
Uhh they didn’t see a large burning passenger ferry? The other crew didn’t mention a FERRY that collided?
Exactly what I was thinking. I mean, did it drift THAT far off that its blaze was longer in sight? Also, why would they say that the collision was with a freaking tugboat?? I mean come on, there is a huge difference!
Yes, I wondered how could the crew have mistaken such a large Ferry for "a little tugboat".
Exactly this.
Makes me think that the Oil Tanker was anchored in the wrong place, and by playing down the size of the vessel that collided with it, removes the blame from themselves.
Having watched this, I immediately thought that the tanker and its crew were 100% to blame for this disaster.
@@KelleyGrl5758 It's worse because the video mentions the captain of the tanker was the one who maneuvered their ship to get unstuck. They had PLENTY of time to see the ship they hit. They was stuck to it. Total liar, that captain...
@@dangerousandy My gut feeling, as well. The ferry would have known its way out of the port even blindfolded, it's strange they would have strayed off their usual route. But if the tanker was anchored somewhere it wasn't supposed to... How come, though, that the ferry didn't see their lights? Aren't ships supposed to be lit, to prevent collisions?
The captain of the other ship "mistakenly" said he ran into a tugboat? No he straight up lied
no he ran into nothing , he was at anchor
@@eifionjones559 illegally, in a no anchor zone, in a dangerous fog.
@@travismiller5548 none of us know that, perhaps a pilot had instructed him to do so , perhaps he had engine failure. The video gives little real information
Yeah, quite selfish. Like, why'd you say tugboat instead of a ferry?? Bruh. May those people who died rest in peace.
how come almost every-time a maritime disaster happens, some STUPID miscommunication
turns it from a minor issue to SOMETHING THAT KILLS HUNDREDS.
i mean, the COSTA-CONCORDIA accident was caused by a miscommunication between Schetino and the helmsman!
The lone survivor probably has some very bad memories from that day.
i read what he told media about the experience- apparently he had to hang from a rail for two hours because the water below him was covered in a sheet of flame! i’m glad he survived but my god that must have been horrible
His name is Alessio Bertrand
amen poor man
More like a Trauma...
PTSD and survivors guilt😢
I had to circle around this video for a month before I could bring myself to watch. I am Italian and I remember the Moby Prince vividly. Thank you for the thorough and compassionate job you have done with it.
God bless you 🌹
I agree! I just had to pause it for a few minutes, hoping the ending would miraculously change.
I wonder if the person that misreported the Moby Prince as a tugboat is haunted by the fact they delayed help to a distressed vessel that ultimately lost all its passengers or if they were more concerned and praying they wouldn’t be one of the individuals held accountable.
He better. He would be at fault for their deaths
In a normal country he would have been given jail time. But not here, nah-uh. The people responsible for the Morandi Bridge didn't pay a single cent or spent a day in prison. I am 99% sure there hasn't even been a trial.
I think he was more concerned not burning alive together with his fellow crewmaters. #1 rule in a disaster is to get to safety first, THEN see what you can do to help others. Wether it was miscommunication or deliberate misinformation, the fact remains he was looking out for himself and his crew, not the crew of the unknown ship that collided with them, set them on fire, then sailed off into the mist.
This is a real life example of a psychology question.. a car and a bus are stranded on a railway track, with a train approaching. You can pull one of the vehicles to safety, but the other will be destroyed, killing all inside. The car has your family inside, the bus is full of strangers.
Who do you save? WHO. DO. YOU. SAVE?
@@SeedlingNL not sure about who I would save but surely I am curious to know why can't everyone just run to safety and why were there no barriers on the tracks? Those alert trains when they break. 😶
"At least I survive". I don't know if there is this saying in Italian but "Antes ele do que eu", "rather him than me", is a common saying for "I would rather live, he better die before me".
I used to wonder as a kid into shipwrecks why ship fires are so catastrophic, because a ship is surrounded by water & fire hates water. But as an adult, now I understand that (a) water isn’t always the best fire suppressant & (b) unless you get to the life boats in time, there’s zero escape.
Yeah. Also boats can burn fast. The materials in and on the boat are often very flammable and some (such as plastics, paints and solvents) produce toxic smoke when burned. I've seen videos of small private boats that caught fire and sank in no more than a couple of minutes. Also, my first thought would be to jump into the water, but as this example shows, you might not be able to reach the deck and the edge of the boat. If you are in an internal space in the ship, the flames, smoke and radiant heat will prevent you from accessing the water :(
(a) is just reminding me that I know of at least TWO incidents where survivors who were trapped in rubble were [nearly] drowned by the fire suppression.
Don’t forget (c), if you can suppress the fire with water, you could also flood the ship and it will founder!
Also (d) ships float, so the water isn't necessarily getting onto the fire without big help from you
Also, as this started out as an oil fire, water would not necessarily have helped. Indeed, water applied to an oil fire can make it worse.
Even if the Moby Prince kept "slowly spiraling away", how could it possibly have gotten far away enough that NOBODY noticed a second burning ship in the darkness?! Especially since they were still in the harbor when the collision occurred!
Smoke from the anchored ship's fire seems to be the obvious explanation.
There was a lot of smoke from the burning oil. Most of it was burning in the sea and created a thick blanket of black smoke
It seems like the flames would stand out, yes. But in nighttime darkness, a burning ship might *not* be readily visible if the flames are hidden by the ship's structure or shrouded in dense smoke. Many fires, especially if large amounts of heavy oil like crude or bunker fuel are involved, will easily generate enough smoke to do this.
C'era fumo dovuto al primo incendio sul l'Agip Abruzzo e poi la collisione hanno dato sul prince prima di scappare dal ponte di comando indietro tutta....nessuno li ha voluti salvare....uno e salito a mezzanotte sulla nave Moby e vedendo fiamme e fumo è sceso senza salvarli.....
Lesson I learned when something happened on a ship, if the captain or crew tell you to stay on your room or any specific room, assume that they're incapable of handling the situations and prepare for yourself for the worst and scan your surrounding for safety measures. Don't put your lives at the hand of others. Do mutiny if neccessary, deal with the legalities later.
Ive seen WAY to many horror stories of people being told to go back to there room only for the ship to list sideways and trap people. If an incident happens, im going right to the top of the ship and staying there until it reaches land.
Reminds me of the DUKW that sank in Lake of the Ozarks. The passengers were told not to put their life jackets on. I would hope if I'd been there I would have told them to phock off, I'm willing to stand trial for mutiny if we survive. I definitely would have made my kids put theirs on at least
This happened with the sinking Korean ship that had lots of children aboard a few years ago , the captain told them to wait in their cabins and then he abandoned the ship which sank killing many of the kids .
That was what happened on the Costa Concordia, people died because they weren't evacuated in time. But then again, trying to jump into the water can cause your own death. Ideally, you need to prepare life vests and life boats ready only think it's necessary, or else people go into panic and that is bad. But the moment they realize that you were wrong or lying they are going to panic either way.
The survivors of Piper Alpha all left the "safe" room and jumped.
How disturbing is it that the very room that was made to protect them from fire disasters, is the thing that killed them in the end.
Yeah, it is chilling
If the air conditioning had turned off, they probably wouldn't have died. It was a well designed room for fire protection.
@@waggyn This disaster likely led to new regulations when it comes to fire dampers. I work with cargo ships so the crews are smaller, but there are lots of remotely automated, automatic, and manual dampers all over the accommodations.
It kept them alive for as long as it could. It was the fire, the smoke and the lack of any rescue that killed them.
@@ptonpc much more the smoke and lack of rescue, once the survivors of the CO2 noticed there was no more fire, they left the safe room to get some ait, and succumb to the heat that the ship radiated after the fire was over.
Jesus. They were basically in a convection oven. And then some of them got out (!) to find a deck that was probably 1000+ degrees. Horrifying.
Why didn’t they jump into the water
@@ryanp8920 imagine an insect trying to walk across a stove burner
@Oreo Cookie it was hot I know just seemed so open from the picture that they could just jump out a window into the water
@@ryanp8920 There was oil on top of the water, may have been ablaze
@Oreo Cookie A steel deck that hot will melt your soles and cause your shoes to stick, and you go down. I work with cargo ships and that steel deck baking in full sun gets hot enough to cook on, cant imagine walking on it while there's a fire underneath.
When it comes to anything Italian transport especially seagoing, I run away as fast as I can. There's a looong line of Italian marine disasters since the war and their "investigations" into them are usually pathetic cover-ups. Thats why they keep happening.
Especially if something's burning. As an inhabitant of a much colder country and fireplaces being rather common I can't imagine anyone here making the same mistake of having air conditioning run carbon monoxide into a safe room.
Don’t forget Italian Cable Cars. Those are terrible as well.
It's the Mediterranean area in general. I see a lot on sailing forums and in the sailing subreddit that sailboaters generally have miserable experiences over there with shady shit and corruption and it's known that the maritime in that part of the world is pretty much run by the local mafia.
I remember driving over the border into Italy as a child with my father (from Austria) and the difference was staggering. The Alpine roads over in Italy had rusty or missing guard rails and were in a much poorer condition as well as much smaller banks, you could look down hundreds of meters and nothing seperated the car from the drop. Oh, and then at the first stop some guys broke into our car and stole my Dad's money...we went back home immediately and never crossed that border again 😂
Would you be so kind to detail that "looooong" line of Italian marine disaster or are you afraid to cover yourself in ridicule?
The burnt ship docked at 8:30 is the very definition of a macabre sight.
It's clearly the oil tanker's captain. How do you think a cruise ship is a tug boat? The guy was trying to put his own ship first.
Well it was a ferry, not a cruise ship. It was a fairly large ferry but still fairly small as far as commercial passenger ships go. If it had been a cruise ship the tanker would have been a lot more damage and they definitely wouldn't have missed it..
The tanker was at anchor; the other ship hit them, and after the collision, left the area. As for "trying to put his own ship first", when you're at sea, that's what you have to do, especially when that ship is full of oil, and is on fire. Judging by the photos, she was pretty big, and NOBODY wanted that ship to go BOOM!
@@moosecat I think what he’s saying is that you can put your own ship first, sure. But it makes it seem like he lied in order to put his own ship first. I don’t know what the man was thinking or what he said exactly. But you can’t lie about stuff like this.
The captain could have lied but also just been very confused. I have to imagine I anchor most of the ships crew guard is not up. I don't blame the captain for not know what hit their bot. Of course if they knew they should have also relayed that information.
@@aurorawaxwing5866 They were literally stuck in eachother for a decent period of time, the tanker knew exactly what they had hit/gotten hit by.
i don’t want to be selfish, but please don’t ever change your music . it’s so perfect with your tone and pacing.
love these, man! amazing work.
Here, here!!
While I agree I wouldnt be opposed to seeing different music at least trialed, there may be something even better.
I was in the kitchen and the music 🎶 started playing in my head 😱gotta stop watching these 😂
Dada dada da..da da
@@michellecollins290 lol The FH music is catchy and creepy at the same time.
Stories like this always make me feel like I'm in the victims shoes. Imagine the horror of hitting an oil tanker, catching fire, realizing help isn't coming, and then seeing 140 PEOPLE and YOURSELF SUFFOCATE TO DEATH AROUND YOU all packed together. Imagine being the last person that died. Seeing all those bodies and knowing you're going to end that way too. That happened to someone. It can happen to me or anyone. Terrifying.
When those "in charge" tell you to wait patiently in a "fireproof" room, time to say "WHAT??"
This happened when the Grenfell housing burned down, they were told to stay inside due to the fire door that should keep out the flames/smoke long enough for them to put it out or be rescued.
Little did they know the cladding on the outside of the building spread upwards. Lots more people could have gotten out of that tower had they not been told to stay inside.
Time to say “screw that, where’s the lifeboats?” and then head that way
@@mattsisoler6125 This happened on the Costa Concordia.
"Go back to your cabins"
"Fuck that, we've all watched Titanic, we're staying right here!"
@@worldcomicsreview354 I saw that. That’s the thing. If ever the crew of a ship say “go back to your cabins, everything is fine,” more likely than not it isn’t and you REALLY need to be ready to get the hell off the boat.
@@mattsisoler6125 as was said on the video, the top deck with the lifeboats was on fire so they really had no where else to take the passengers to
I find it insane NO ONE else jumped ship except for that one kid
In dire situations, people become sheep that only follow others actions. I think this groupthink is what led to no one jumping ship
@@stignatius1625 I mean, if the captain of the other ship hadn't lied that would have been the safest way, as everyone thought that "Hey, people will rescue us, we are so many, we are so visible, they HAVE to, right?"
@@chiaraj1003 jntjfjfifijn
Seriously. Everyone should've been given lifejackets, if possible, then jump ship and huddle together in the ocean.
@@stupidkitty84 I'm scared shitless of the ocean but if the boat is on fire my ass is grabbing a lifeboat or a vest and getting the fuck away
The Moby Prince’s radio operator wasn’t at his post when the disaster occurred, so he used the closest radio he had access to during the fire. They found his body, later, unable to gain access to the fixed ratio through the fire.
The De Luxe Hall was equipped with fire retardant doors and walls. It was the safest, quickest place that they could gather passengers and they did exactly what they had likely practiced for and trained for a hundred times. When an emergency happens on a ship, each crew member knows their specific role. So many of them must have carried out those roles frantically and swiftly in order to gather those passengers. The mistake was tragic. But even had the air conditioning units been shut off, the fire completely engulfed and surrounded the safety zone of the De Luxe ball room. There was no escape from any side in the center of the ship, and once the fumes inevitably penetrated the walls and the heat built in the room, carbon poisoning from immense byproducts of the oil burning would have been impossible to survive.
The cabin boy was found hanging in the stern’s railing, unable to jump into the oil-filled water that had caught on fire, and praying that he would not succumb to the heat and toxic vapors aboard the vessel that he could not escape. It was his maiden voyage with the vessel, and he later was put aboard a tug boat with survivors of the other ship, as the injured only survivor of his vessel.
The captain of the Agip Abruzzo called his mayday coordinates from inside a no-anchor zone, and in heavy fog there was no reason to anticipate a large tanker setting illegally at anchor in the harbor in an area the other vessel knew so well. He never should have been there. It was a risk to many vessels. The log books indicating the ship’s location, and probably guilt, disappeared.
Alesia Bertrand, the cabin attendant, later gave his account of what he witnessed. He was off-duty, watching the European playoff cup, with fellow crew members when the collision occurred. “I heard a crash, and then there was smoke and fire everywhere. I heard screams from passengers and other crew members, but there was nothing I could do. My friends died beside me. It is a miracle I am still alive.”
The tug boats responded, in part, to the Abruzzo first (if you’re wondering why they didn’t seek out the tanker or “tug boat” that the ship struck) because they responded with an environmental crew and fire crew. With thousands of gallons of crude oil flooding the harbor, they were concerned about the bad press that the pollution from the event would create, so they went to the source of the leak first without concern or consideration for the second vessel.
I don't know why storys of people dying trying to do a heroic act makes me tear up. May god bless that man.
Sounds like alot of criminal negligence. A miscarriage of justice that noone has been held responsible for this.
What about the radar alert sound
I work with cargo ships so no rooms like the De Luxe hall, but there are a lot of fire dampers in the walls and ceilings. Many are automated or automatic, but there are others you can shut off by hand.
The fireproof (Perhaps better to say fire resistant since nothing is completely invulnerable) room did exactly what it was designed to do. If the ship had been found quickly enough then this would probably have been a tale of how 140 people survived an inferno.
I had never heard of this tragedy. I’m so glad you’ve put the story out there, because I’m sure I’m not the only one.
Can you imagine being a rescuer and opening the door to that room to find it full of unburned people yet realising that they were all dead? It must have been horrendous.
Yes. But I'm sure it's better than seeing burned bodies.
I cannot believe I’d never heard of this. Such a tragedy. Your content is thorough and respectful as always.
Me too!
There are worse tho.
@@HeaanLasai Do you think France or Belgium is any better?
@@HeaanLasai And what that "GOOD reason" is supposed to be? There have been sea tragedies and accidents all over the word, not just in Italy.
@@HeaanLasai (Notice Italian captains ALWAYS evacuate before allowing any passenger to evacuate.).
No, Schiettino doesn't represent all the Italian captains. And the laws are there and the maioity respect them as in the others countries.
A nightmarish string of bad luck, miscommunication and accidents. Murphy's Law was clearly in full swing here, and what a horrific thing for the lone survivor to have to carry with him for the rest of his life. Maybe naming the ship after an animal from a star-crossed tale of hatred and revenge is inviting trouble...
Point Good
I thought Moby Dick lived In the end?
@@GazB85 you're right, he did live, it's been a while since I read the book - I recalled a scene where the shipmen were rolling around and rubbing their hands in sperm whale oil and must have forgotten which whale's oil that was. Nevertheless, I think being chased down by a madman until his very death is a kind of doom.
Murphy’s law has nothing to do with sheer incompetence.
Whoever named this boat was a real dick!
Thank you for all your hard work, effort and research you put into your projects. I love your channel!
Whenever the date is mentioned on these videos I always find myself where I was that day and what I was doing. Maybe I was on my way to school, or just going to bed, oblivious that a bunch of people were dying.
And also, securing everybody in a fireproof room can't have been a good idea.
And finally, how the hell could they not have seen another burning ship? That's crazy!
The idea of having a fireproof room on the ship is great. It would have been better if, as a minimum, the room had a ventilation cutoff, an engine cutoff, and a base station radio accessible by key by all crew members. I hope they learned their lesson and outfitted their remaining fleet in this manner.
... and an emergency exit directly overboard through a chute.
I'm sure there's no danger whatsoever.
Add in an independent oxygen supply once you shut off the vent in a 'fire' proof room. But now you have an internal bomb whereas lifeboats would have been fine for many hours.
How about a self destruct button like in The Nostromo?
It must be lifelong trauma for the one kid who survived, who'd stilll only be in his 40s now.
Can’t imagine how horrifying it’d be to be treading water, waiting for the others to jump, and they never do. Having to watch the flames and hear the screams 🙁
@@mrs.h2725 Given that most died of smoke inhalation, it’s very likely that there were no screams to be heard. They just lost consciousness. Probably no less traumatic for the survivor, though.
@@JosieJOK it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume there were some screams from the ones who made it out of the fire room, onto the deck, and were overcome by "the extreme heat of the hull"
@@zillia6784 True enough.
Not really as he was thrown into the sea on collision, it’s not like he saw all the people in the room die...I think when something like that happens in life it can also work in a positive, like a second chance 🙏
I absolutely LOVE this channel! The stories are mostly ones ive never heard of before. The way you tell them is amazong and the music fits so perfectly. Best channel ive found by far! 🎉🎉❤❤
How'd they possibly not see a massive burning passenger ferry on the horizon? Surely it couldn't have drifted so far out of sight. No wonder there's still anger about this.
As an italian, i'm so thankful you covered this story! I wasn't born when it happened but my parents told me about it and especially my mom was still terrified and sad for those poor people. It's a shame it didn't get more attention, even in Italy itself everyone kinda forgot about it so i'm happy that thanks to you more people will learn about this tragedy
Speaking of Italian shipping,my neighbor was an Andrea Doria survivor.
@@kevincarlson7148 i'm glad your neighbor survived, thankfully Andrea Doria had a great captain, unlike costa concordia and many other ships
@@valerialeto6654 She had no idea of the lives lost,but still lost it watching from the rescue ship because the Doria was so beautiful.Piero Calamai was a great man,class act,and true captain.I felt awful for him and his family.He asked "are the passengers safe?" on his deathbed.Years later,researchers determined it was a Stockholm crewman's fault and the Italian crew were blameless..I guess he's at least at peace now,though.
“As a blah blah blah.”
I was alive, and I guarantee that people around Livorno still remember it vividly.
"Theres a fire! Quick, stay inside this room on the burning boat!"
Um....no?
Where were the lifeboats? Unless they had been in the fire the passengers should’ve been sent there. Or thrown themselves off the side like the only survivor.
Its mentioned in the video that getting to the liferafts would be difficult because if the fire on top of the ship. Still jumping in the water does sound a bit safer than being cooked alive in a room that cannot catch fire, but could still conduct heat....
and even then staying on-board is kinda the best option for those who can't swim. Esspecially for parents with multiple kids. It would only make matters worse to have to choose which of your children youre going to save by jumping in the water with them when either you, your child or both arent strong swimmers to begin with. I think it may be more emotionally comforting to stay on-board with your family than to watch them drown or them watch you drown. either are crap sack options but in that moment, when survival isn't on the horizon, making your last moments alive as comfortable as possible is the next best thing.
@@Davidofthelost On fire, and survivor wasnt adrift in the water
Did you miss the part where the room was completely fireproof and actually never got hot enough to burn anyone? It would have kept everyone alive had the bridge being on fire not forced to crew to evacuate before turning off things like the AC unit.
This is such a brilliant channel! Please keep making these videos 👍🏼
As a wise man once said: "What we have here, is a failure to communicate."
I'll be singing guns n roses all day now lol
@@Mimi-cq4bg What? The quote is from Cool Hand Luke, not some second rate rock band.
(Facepalm)
Completely not relevant. I guess what we have here is an accurate username.
@dreamland Your comment is even less relevant than the OP's. You're not smart.
The question that immediately popped into my head is, how could no one see the Moby Prince on fire?
After the collision, once the Moby Prince drifted beyond the horizon (~4 mi. or 6 to 7 km), it wouldn't have been visible from the vicinity of the other ship. A bit further and even the smoke from the Moby Prince wouldn't've been noticeable.
@@w.randyhoffman1204 that and they were too focused on the tanker’s fire
I wondered why there are no fishing boats or private boats coming over to help. SOMEBODY must have seen it on fire, it was nightime after all, and they did not go check it out? They should at least made an emergency call to the authorities about a ferry on fire sailing past them.
@@lilspiderlily All ships at sea are required by Maritime law to render assistance to any ship in distress, but as long as Captain's are fired for not meeting their schedules they will continue to make excuses and turn a blind eye toward anything which slows them down. Not my problem if it's not my ship.
They never got to shut down the engines. The ship was still moving under it's own power unfortunately.
One of best " things" about this channel, they jump directly into the story!
No b.s.commercials,first thing,no " hit that thumbs up or subscribe " to the channel.!!
Too bad more channels didn't follow suit, I might subscribe to them.
You do such a wonderful job narrating and know so much about each disaster you cover. L9ve your content and appreciate all the hard work that goes into doing this. You have such a lovely voice and diction, you could read off the side of a cereal box and I would listen! God bless you kiddo!(I am a Mom)
That’s so very sad. Imagine being in that hall, waiting for help... damn.
Imagine staying in freezing water for an hour, watching 140 people slowly die from smoke inhalation, and be picked up by a tugboat, the same one the captain of the oil tanker thought that was what hit them.
@@idioticchildno.0171 He wasn't IN freezing water, he was hanging off the side of the ship, while constantly splashed by frozen water.
So the room became a gaschamber. Absolutely horrific
Gas chamber/boiler room
@@vinawaldren6888 nah
imagine people starting to drop from lack of oxygen around you, but the only place you can escape to is the blazing inferno outside.
TheEnabledDisabled Interesting point.
You'd have to wonder where God is.
How has it taken me a year to find this channel? Excellent content! Can't wait to see more!
Just subscribed. Brilliant channel, 100% perfect. Keep up the fantastic work!
Italy has so many of this kind of disasters that one could make an entire series of videos called "Italian disasters with no culprit". Terror attacks, accidents caused by negligence or malpractice, some of them still straight up mysteries, we have it all.
I wonder if in other countries is like this...
There's bound to be. We just need to know where to look.
Italy is a poorly managed and poorly governed country, unfortunately. I suppose it's a byproduct of it being a merger between three separate nations with vastly differing governments.
The Well There's Your Problem podcast has a joke that in Italy, every conspiracy theory is simultaneously true.
Every conspiracy theory is true, all at once, but only in 1960s-70s Italy.
@@JCBro-yg8vd Italy has been a mess since the decline of the Roman Empire and remains that way because that's how their people want it to be. Even the iron fist of Mussolini couldn't fix that. And it's not just Italy but many nations who are this way- nobody anywhere wants to be told they are wrong or to be made to accept responsibility for themselves and what they do.
I'm always so surprised I've never heard of these disasters
Same, i have never heard of this before
Considering how so many messed up in so big a way I see how this could stay a story no one has heard of.
Because the internet now.
Americans know nothing outside their borders, sometimes nothing outside their state. See Rome.
@@princeofcupspoc9073 meanwhile which countries are experiencing a new strain of covid?
These stories are unreal. This channel does a great job of bringing them to light with the proper tone.
I have soo many questions. Why did the rescue crews not immediately start looking for the ‘other’ ship, regardless of size? A liner designed to carry 1k+ people burning, decks aflame, ad no-one saw flames or smoke? If the ship was underway, wouldn’t there have been crew members on duty in the engine room below? Should’ve have been some backup controls to the ventilation system elsewhere on the ship? Even with the decks aflame, shouldn’t there been an interior passageway to the lower areas of the ship? Shipboard fire has always been the bane of sailors, and even civilian crews are supposed to be drilled in immediate actions, but the plan was always to just hangout in a fireproof room and wait for help? With the death of all key decision makers, we will never know, but this smacks of some kind of massive failure in training or leadership. I’m not here to speak ill of the dead, but this whole story strikes me as bizarre.
Tragic in the extreme.
I'd love to see an episode on the MTS Oceanos. There's a very detailed account written by the band leader on the internet. Unbelievable.
That is such crazy story! There's an hour long documentary on TH-cam about the Oceanos. Very well done.
Great video. I think ‘don’t drive your ship into an oil tanker’ is the lesson here.
Yeah, but 4 years before that the worst peacetime maritime disaster happened exactly for the same reason. The lesson was not learned here sadly
Fucking big brain take right there!
Never expected to find you here Bearing.
That is an important thing to know, but having suitable emergency plans for when collisions and fires do happen is also important.
The lesson is "don't ride on ro-ro ferries". They're fucking DEATHTRAPS.
It seems like maybe the tanker captain was worried rescuers would leave them to go help the cruise ship or something. No way he confused a small tugboat and a cruiseship
That is exactly why he lied
Love all your videos. The ones and the new videos coming out. Great job. You make the video so interesting and informative. ❤
The captain relayed the wrong information intentionally it feels.
You’re right. It’s infuriating.
He should’ve been charged for murder. His lie killed all those people
Look, I get that the collision caused a lot of chaos, but considering the two boats were stuck together how did no one on the oil tanker realize that they didn't get hit by a tugboat
The captain knew. I feel he maliciously withheld info because he knew he messed up. He was anchored where he shouldn't have been, possibly without proper lights, and in the fogs. He then disentangled himself when the Moby caught on fire. He knew it was a ferry and that HE was responsible.
@@chocolatefrenzieya Yeah I really feel this as well. Of course it's impossible to know for sure, but it's also implausible that a tugboat would cause that much damage and be misidentified (yes it was at night but tugs are black and this was a large white slab-sided vessel). The other thing that confused me is why nobody tried to find the 'tug' since it would be assumed to be heavily damaged as well, or puzzled why it wasn't in the vicinity. Stinks of corrupt arse-covering.
He lied intentionally.
It is also interesting that the tankers' log mysteriously vanished before trial.
@@chocolatefrenzieya So you mean he lied in hope that the other ship would go down in flames so there would be no witnesses?
11:07 If the ships were that close to each other how could the rescue crews NOT see the burning liner?
That was probably the aftermath when they were tugging it back to shore after realising the whole situation
The Moby Prince didn't cut it's engines and course remained where it was left. It slowly got away until it could not be seen.
Fog in the night
Thank you for covering this tragedy. RIP to the victims.
New subscriber here! Just binged your whole channel, and looking forward to more. Excellent work! :)
These 'fire proof' rooms scare me. Just like in the Piper Alpha disaster, I fear what happens when fire crews can't get to the survivors. Horrifying. May all souls lost rest in peace. EDIT: Just read that the Capitan of the tanker initially reported being in a strict 'no-parking' area of the harbour but later changed his statements. His Captains Log was also 'misplaced' days later. Seems like the blame falls on the tanker, though Moby should of been using its radar.
Piper Alpha is one of those disasters, like Bhopal, where everything you've been told to do/you think would be the "right" thing to do in that situation ends up being the worst thing you could do.
@@thepanpiper7715 Indeed, its so often profits above lives.
@@skullsaintdead Tell me about it. Last night I was listening to "Well there's your problem"'s episode on the Sampoong Department store in Seoul. The owner literally made the pillars holding the building up thinner so he could fit more merchandise in.
And of course on the day of the collapse when the big ol' crack at the base of one of those pillars on the top-most floor was reported? He argued against closing for the day. Of course, he left the site soon after.
@@thepanpiper7715 Jeez, as they say, building regulations are written in blood.
@@sed6657 Just to make things simple:
1) Not even in the Americas.
2) Maritime law /= road laws.
3) Likely fog covering the ships.
4) Tanker lied about its location & log goes 'missing', suggesting guilt.
5) "No parking zone" for cars /= "No parking zone" for ships.
6) Ships /= cars.
This gave me chills. Especially when he said they hadn't died from the flames. I can't even imagine what they went through
Take comfort - carbon monoxide poisoning is likely far less painful than being burned to death. With flames, you’d feel it, but with CO, you’d feel a shortness of breath, then pass out.
Yes, the loss of life is a great tragedy, but thankfully the victims likely didn’t suffer much.
Excellent pull-away shot at the end.
You do good work.
Appreciated.
The tune in the beginning gets me excited for a story now lol. Keep it up! Love your stuff💜
Its horrifying how that ship genuinely looks like something from a horror movie. Goodlord.
Well horror movie props and locations are based on real life stuff.. who had the first ran down farmhouse? Real life or Hollywood? :P
These are soo bloody addictive to watch
This is the kind of channel you wish you could discover over again!
The music is addictive too.
Combination of the story and the narrator’s voice has got me HOOKED!
Yes. I quickly watched the whole list.
@@claire040776 honestly same 😭
TH-cam sent me here after consuming all Concordia videos and now I’m here... it seems TH-cam understands me more than the people who wonder what’s wrong with me 😜😹😹
Every single story on your channel simply confirms my absolute belief that in a disaster, you should NEVER entrust your survival to other people; other people supposedly taking care of safety precautions, or other people to rescue you. So-called experts are massively incompetent, reckless, careless, and fantastically stupid. The idea of simply sitting in a room while an inferno of that degree rages around you is simply incomprehensible to me.
How the hell do you mistake a giant ferry that rammed your ship for a tug boat?
A guy who wants to avoid justice.
You don’t
By being filthy useless in your job
Using the fog as an excuse for being illegally anchored in a no anchor zone. They were lying.
By being drunk, partying below decks, at night, and as said above, wanting to avoid justice. Not too hard in Italy, trust me on this last one. Well, it's what happened after all.
You should do a video about the sinking of the M/S Estonia in 1994. It’s a tragedy that shook three nations and the memory of it still weighs on estonians, finns and swedes. It is so far the deadliest shipwreck of peacetime in Europe, with 852 dead. I’ve personally read through all the survivors’ accounts that were written down during the investigation, and it’s truly chilling, for someone who’s been on similar cruises all across the Baltic sea.
Please do there isn’t a lot about it in English and it has some interesting conspiracies surrounding it
Thank you for covering a tragedy from my country. It seems that most of the times people get away with their responsibility and this is sad. Salute from Italy
I remember that tragic event 😢 may the souls of the victims rest in peace ⭐️
Just to say, thank you, again for some of the finest documentary content on the internet. No fluff, no drama beyond the story and the facts. These stories always make me take pause and are always as fascinating as they are sad.
this is a poor documentary lacking in basic facts
One day, could you do the Sewol Ferry? It's a tragedy that will forever live in my heart.
Yeah that one is sooooo heartbreaking😭. All those poor kids
Love this channel. Important history here.
I don't know what my plan would be but if I was on a ship in the middle of the ocean and there was a fire and someone said "Here, go into this fireproof room." I'd be like "No, no, no. That don't jive." Again, I don't know what my plan would be but it wouldn't be that.
I swim almost like a stone and Id be looking seriously at my jump option!
@@redsloane879 the deck was on fire how you gonna jump over it lol
I liked how you switched between silence and background music. It really added to the video.
It adds respect when he’s talking about the souls I think.
Anyone else thinking that maybe the captain of the other ship might have said it was a tug boat because he wanted to save himself first and he knew saying that a larger vesel carrying passengers would get attention before his boat?
Your videos are amazing and addicting!
Really gnarly when you see single digits on the memorial wall. Damn
"Please assemble in this large central area where the fire wont get to you but will surround you on all sides..."
😟
The only way it would work as intended as if there were more fire proof doors on other parts of the ship to box in the fire and starve it of oxygen. At the least it would've bought more time.
Right. Instinct should tell you it's a bad idea. The last thing you want is to corner yourself somewhere on a burning ship.
@@JCBro-yg8vd I don't quite get your reply. The point is that it's a bit odd for an emergency room to be boxed in at all sides and have no access to the sea. It could have been fitted with a fireproof shute leading to the water. Fitted with another airtight door just like the one they entered.
@@nw6070 Burning oil was flowing over the decks, making the interior fireproof saferoom the only safe location to go to. Jumping off the ship wasn't an option, the deck was on fire, and burning oil covered the water. In fact, the saferoom WAS safe... it was the AC that didn't automatically turn off in the event of a fire, that killed the people inside. They did the right thing, but sometimes there is no good ending regardless of your choices.
@@SeedlingNL I don't think you read my whole reply because that has nothing to do with what I said. My point is why is the safe room even located in the CENTRE? and why not on the side with a airtight shute leading to the water for emergencies like these when something DOES go wrong or if no one comes to rescue in time.
How can a ship on fire at night not be seen? Yes the tanker was burning but that OTHER fire a few miles/kilometers away may be a clue something is going on.
They give priority to the oil tanker because pollution and bad press would shit over the italians... and the ferry moved quite away so in the chaos of trying to put the flames off the tanker they thought (thanks to forced perspective) it was a smaller ship on fire... or at least that’s my theory
"That's the lighthouse, right?" "Si, si" 5 hours later - "Mi scusi, mi scusi!"
muzasbar I concur, I had a feeling all the oil in those other tanks possible exploding and burning was their main priority.
It was foggy. Ever driven in a fog, I have been in a truck where I couldn't see the road below me.
@@redtobertshateshandles OK, yes I have driven in fog as thick as that. Yes they also seem to debate how thick the fog was at the time of this because both fog and a Navy ship were mentioned as reasons for what happened.
I've been listening to these for hours, and you'd think I'm desensitized by now but goddamnit, this one really got to me.
I've seen so many of your videos and the music is a huge trigger now. I get scared as soon as it plays.
There’s a tragedy that’s been largely ignored here in the US. It happened in 1927 just north of Austin, Texas in a town called Round Rock. A train collided with a bus carrying a college basketball team on the way to play a game. Ten team members from Baylor University died. To this day they are memorialized with a bridge built due to the accident to allow the road to pass safely over the tracks.
Stories like this always leave me wondering...."Did they not see a massive ship in their path?"
The passenger ship captain must be incompetent. Whether there is fog or not, he should not hit anything. If he cannot see clearly, then he shouldn't be moving.
The Cargo ship at that moment was trafficking oil and weapons with other unidentified ships that shouldn't have been there at the time and everything was going on with the lights out so nobody can sera those ships
@@deadkennedys86 where did you get that information?
@@xonx209
Just asking: which do you think is worse in a heavy fog, a moving ship or a stationary ship? If you don't see it soon enough to stop, the only difference is the force of the collision.
I used to sail into Livorno regularly on container ships, and we used tie up next to what was left of the burned-out Moby Prince. The wags on our ship used to refer to the Moby Prince as "The SS Crispy Critter". I remember one time when we had a Kings Point Cadet on board who, upon seeing the remains of the Moby Prince tied up to the dock, asked why that ship was painted that odd shade of brown that way? We explained patiently that she wasn't "painted" that color, all of the paint had been burned off and the bare metal that remained had become rusted. It was only after we got closer that he noticed that all of the windows were missing, too. The longshoremen in Livorno used to insist that one could hear screams and moans emanating from the wreck, but I presume that was merely the wind blowing through the glassless windows. The story we heard was that the Moby Prince collided with an anchored tanker because the bridge watch were all watching a football game instead of watching where the ship was going. However, I don't know how they ascertained that because none of those people survived. The story went that, when the Moby Prince struck the tanker, burning oil from the tanker was funneled into the Moby Prince's vehicle deck via the ferry's crushed bow, and that it then ignited the fuel in the parked vehicles, one after another, increasing the fire on board. They also said that the only person on board who survived, a member of the Steward Department, subsequently committed suicide. Of course the authorities tried to blame the collision on the tanker, they always do, but the tanker was at anchor in a designated anchorage, so that was a non-starter. I know that to have been true because the damaged tanker was still anchored in the same spot when we were there, and it was definitely in the designated anchorage. What never ceased to surprise me was that the company that operated the Moby Prince continued to operate for many years afterwards and, so far as I know, it still is.
The music you play always makes me nervous
Yes, it has a tragic feel to it!
Best theme/soundtrack on TH-cam! That, and the narrator’s voice, make these videos perfect 👌🏻
That's probably intentional. :)
I want to give a massive thank you so much for going out of your way to include American units of measure in your videos. We're taught the metric system in school, but it's never used day to day so I can only visualize things in the vaguest sense when given measurements that way lol. Hearing it put in more familiar units really helps me to understand the unbelievable scale of some of these disasters, and you really didn't need to do that extra step of work considering we're the only ones who use it. Much appreciated ^.^
Most of us oldies in the UK still use imperial. I detest metric... 💀
@@tompage6421 If i'm doing something that doesn't require a lot of precision i'll use imperial units, but if i need extreme precision i need metric units. Also temperature, Fahrenheit is as incomprehensible to me as an alien language so i use Celsius.