How to FILL a HEAVY BAG: The RIGHT and the WRONG way
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- I'll be making some more videos for my channel now, answering questions I get in the comments. For this first one, I explain the right way to fill a heavy bag and the wrong way. This is the original video on which I got the questions about what kind of filler to use for a heavy bag: How to REFILL A HEAVY BAG without having to empty it first • How to REFILL A HEAVY ...
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Idk if you ever competed but you are are very talented striker and I'm sure you were an absolute monster in your prime years of training.
His prime years? He doesn't even look that old
About 45 when I recorded that
Bro was putting in work in the intro
Fax
I was searching for this! Thanks!
Great advice and smart about the bricks. Nice strikes. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Many thanks. Great advice
A great alternative for clothes is painters rags. As a painter 8lbs of shredded tees for $5 is unbeatable
I HAVE USED RUBBER MULCH. VERY HEAVY 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Thank You for Sharing This.
Me rice husk
Rubber mulch is too hard.
What about sand put in zip locks and then duct tape sealed. Then putting these sand bags in between shredded cloth within the bag ?
Lots of work for IMO only a temporary and unreliable solution.
I was going to put sand in it with old shredded clothes to condition my shins, as was recommended to me
I would advise against that.
Yeah I did that and it does hurt the wrist so I would just get a bag that weighs more but is filled with the right stuff
been hitting a 120lbs water bag for years and it has conditioned me like no other. Try that. But be prepared to go through stages of progression because at first it will not be easy.
My father always said rice was the best filler for heavy bags. More expensive than old clothes or sand but worth it because it has a certain "give" that is similar to hitting a person.
Does this sound plausible &/or worth the extra outlay?
Haven't tried rice. But moisture might be the problem for long term use. I don't see how you can avoid it.
what fillers for heavy punching bags are considered toxic for our health? and which ones are not toxic for our health? I had cancer and beat cancer and don't want to put my health at risk or in danger
Sand is still the best filling material if you want to develop strength, power, endurance, but mostly it will show you if the way you hold your fist is ok or not when you connect. When the sand becomes too packed, well you do like you did at the start of your video and you remove the bag from its hook and "massage" it while is it on the ground horizontally. That will unpack the sand and you can reuse it as it was just filled right after. Clothes and anything else make the bag too soft and too light for any real benefit imo.
Feel free to use it as in all things, YMMV. That said, understand that arthritis is a common problem with martial artists and erroneous and repetitive high impact training is a great way to get it at an early stage. You'll also only know you've developed it by the time it is too late.
Aside from that, there is absolutely no reason why you would be unable to develop strength, power and endurance or even proper technique on a bag filled with cloth. As in, none whatsoever.
@@WimDemeere yep that guy is talking some shit
Hitting a hard bag can also damage your brain
@@zadla2081 how is he talking shit?
@@zadla2081 Only if you hit it with your head.
Can we use wood saw dust for filling
I'm not a fan for the same reasons as sand.
Someone say beware of insect inside
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Thanks for sharing the info .
What about sawdust? And perhaps mix sawdust with (gold)sand...?
I'm not a fan for the same reasons as sand. If you mix it, same thing.
Can we fill a 3 feet punching bag with sand will it be ok in long term run
I doubt it. The issue isn't only the weight. Sand just always packs and becomes too hard.
Hi, what if you filled a smaller punch bag with small individual plastic bags filled with sand put it inside a larger punch bag and packed the larger one well with clothes etc. so you get the weight without the damage to your hands from the density and some protection via the cloth.
I've also heard strapping a cloth filled bag to a tree a pillar or a wall simular to a peekaboo bag gives the
weight and better on the hands.
Difficult to make work in the long run. You won't know when the bags have shifted to the surface. Strike the bags and they might burst.
Even if they don't burst, you will eventually have an uneven surface and the bags will always tend to sink to the bottom.
When I was a kid, I put foam around a tree abd used it as a punching bag. Not enough give to avoid joint damage if you hit hard. Using cloth around it would be even worse.
@@WimDemeere What I ment was strapping a
punchbag to a tree or post.So it does not swing old school boxers did this .
Ah, got it. Well, same problem: the cloth will pack and you'll have to refill. Probably more often than if you let the bag swing. Also, you can use anchors to stop the bag from swinging too much. That said, there is nothing wrong with a bag that swings. You're supposed to learn to box around it.
Great video btw
How do you feel about rubber mulch for a filler? As good or better than rags?
Haven't tried it.
watches the first 10 seconds. "Ok this guy knows how to fill a heavy bag"
If I don't add any sand will the bag be easier on my hands? I really hope you answer
Depends on the bag and what filler is already in it. In general: sand = bad.
@@WimDemeere it's an unfilled bag
@@temothee6243 Fill it with shredded cloth then, don't use sand. Easier on the hands
So kind of an odd idea, but I'm not able to get to a thrift store and I acually just got rid of all my clothes I needed to donate, what I do have a ton of is a ton a cardboard boxes, and I'm hoping I can shred the cardboard I have, and maybe that'll work, I have some a couple sheets I can shred, but mostly what I have for the soft stuff would be my good quilts and blankets that I definitely don't want to shred but are fine being shoved into my punching bag for a while, till I can get into a thrift store to shred some old clothes. Question though, is if anyone's used shredded cardboard, successfully, or if it's too light, idk. I know you said don't use sand but it's all I got to work with, I have about 50lbs in sperate one gallon ziplocs and wrapped in couple layers of duct tape, seems to be perfect so for the main part of the weight.(Im only needing my bag to be about 80lbs, I'm sorta small about a buck 20). My other issue is I'm not sure I have enough blanket's and sheets to go around and fill the rest of my bag. I keep looking at all this cardboard in my shop, thinking it'd be so helpful if I could make it work..but I've found not one person say a word about shredded cardboard for a filler, guessing there's a reason why I don't see anyone using it,lol...idk, what do you think?
Cardboard won't work. It is too light and doesn't absorb the impacts well. Eventually it will be flattened completely and become useless.
You can use ziplocked sand as the core for a bag, wrapped well in cloth, but it's tricky to do right. Often it comes loose after prolonged use and you end up with the same issues as a regular sand filled bag.
Ask friends, neighbors, family, etc. for old clothes, rags, towels, etc. Ask them to ask their friends, etc. With some luck, you'll have all you need in no time.
What about adding sand bag to the top of the cloth filling?
Same problem: eventually it will sink and settle.
@@WimDemeere Well I bought a soft strike heavy bag, decided to remove all the filling and then re-fill it myself… they used shredded clothing and other random materials to fill the bag with, clothes with knots in them, pieces of plastic, chunks of fabrics stuck together, etc. There was also a cylindrical tube filling with sand about midway thru centered around all the stuffing. I noticed the end caps on that looked loose so I reinforced with gorilla tape thoroughly. But yeah I ended up putting a bunch of old cloths, towels, and shirts for the bottom third, then centered that tube, refilled with the shredded cloth that came in/more of my old clothes, and packed all that in as I went. The 2 11 pound sandbags that came with it I just placed at the very top of the bag on top of all the packed filling.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that I don’t think the sand bags will be able to work their way down bc it’s packed so tight. It feels like I’m punching a cement wall right now… how long does it take to break in a heavy bag? Lol
@@WimDemeere And the bag is like 105 pounds or so and if I remove the bags it’s around 80. What do you think I should do? I’m wondering if the bags sitting on top is what’s causing it to feel like I’m hitting a wall or if it’s just not broken in yet…
Hard to say. Try removing some filler and see how it goes.
I don’t feel good taking clothes from the needy for my bag
You don't have to. Pretty much any cloth will do. Old towels are fine too. Just make sure they aren't dirty. :-)
@@WimDemeere I figured it out. Now I love my bag
My bag is full animal bedding pellets and sand at the very bottom for more weight.
So Thai boxers don't use sand bags
Wing chun martial artists don't use sand bags to strike
You can mix cloth maize rice with cloth.. You just have to take care of how you punch kick and maintain your bag by rotating it every now and again to event he filling
What about spray insulation expanding foam with the core of the bag filled with something like pea gravel?
Put a greased up tube former inside the centre of the bag, then fill the outer part of the bag with the spray foam, remove the tube former and then fill the centre with pea gravel... just an idea, what you think?
I would advise against that.
The filled tube idea sounds great, but the
expanding foam will break down and
become an issue. I would make sure
to fill bottom with whatever kind of 'soft'
fill that you choose, so that there is
no way the tube can slip or migrated
down to the extreme bottom of the bag,
in a manor that you might kick the
bottom of the bag and get injured.
I haven't watched the whole video yet,
my guess is that Wim's method will
be a very good one.
I have an unfilled 300lbs. bag that I'm going to fill. I doubt seriously I could get 300lbs. of fabric in there without having at least 40-80lbs. of sand included. I had thought about stuffing it with only rice also.
What’d u end up doing
Can I use like insulation? Just pack a good amount in
You can, but then you have a lot of experimentation to do, because it is bound to be too light for use: type of insulation, thickness, absorbance factor, how long will it last before it loses elasticity, which core to use to increase weight correctly, how to keep the insulation from exposing the core, etc. A lot of work when easier solutions exist, IMO.
So... I decided that punching my old truck isn't good for my wrists long term and got a 40 percent off on a Ringside unfilled heavy bag. It's 16" in diameter and I've seen a few places where guys are getting PVC pipe 6-8" in diameter, capping one end, then centering it in the middle of the bag, packing shredded clothing around the pvc pipe, and finally filling the pipe with sand and capping it. They basically pack things so that the PVC pipe (which is eventually filled with sang) has no way to migrate inside the bag away from the center... then the fill it, cap it, and top it off with more filling... Will this work?
And as far as fabric goes, are shredded towels Ok? Or do I want to stick with stuff like cotton shirts and denim?
Meh... I found a cheaper solution... I'm going to go with a a 6" by 48" sonotube wrapped in gorilla tape to go in the core of my bag with 100lbs of sand. And then take the 50lbs fill from a $30 craigslist 80lb beater bag (minus the sand bags from the beater bag) to pack around the perimeter of the sonotube... giving me 100lbs of sand and 50lbs of fabric... I also have 20lbs of shredded memory foam I can mix with the fabric which I think will work well if I take the time to meticulously pack it...
Did you try the pvc? I'm going to do this in a few weeks when I get my new bag
I have a surplus of plastic bags, cardboard boxes, and plastic bottles. Would filling plastic bottles with water (sand maybe for the bottom layer) and then wrap it in plastic bags, cardboard cuttings, and duct tape till it's the right shape and size be alright or would that be bad for long term use?
I would advise against that.
@@WimDemeere how about sawdust packaged in a ziplock then covered with shreded clothes be a good alternative?
No.
can you put an old heavy bag in a new heavy bag? I have a leather 100lb Mui Thai bag and am wondering if i can just put cover and all in a new bag?.
You can, but I'd advise against it.
What about sand in a zip lock at the bottom?
I would advise against it.
No
You turn the bag upside down for a week
Put it in a stationery position kick it punch it so it evens back out
Thanks for telling not to fill with sand
No problem
How about large chunk perlite?
What do they fill it with if you ordered it filled I’m curious and can’t find any videos on it
How about wood dust?
Problem with my heavy bag is that the filling at the top of the bag has migrated to the bottom and now its the bottom overstuffed and feeling like rock. Gravity has played a bad role to my heavy bags all the time. How can I maintain an equal distribution of filling at the top, middle and bottom of the bag ?
You can't, gravity always wins. Tje only alternative is to buy one with a water core and foam filling, or vice versa.
If filling drops to bottom, it means you can just use more filling right? But this might be a problem if you don't want it to get heavier?
From my understanding if you use textile shreds, you should top it off about 3-4 times every 6-7 sessions or more. Because during the sessions you'll beat the pockets of air out of the bag and gravity will pull what's up down.
Do u think I can use desert sand? Desert sand is quite different from ordinary sand
I would advise against it.
Nice video.Thanks for sharing.
What about a mix of sponge and sand?
I would advise against using sand. Either by itself or combined with other materials.
Can i use white rice ?
I would advise against it.
So no sand...but a cloth wrapped brick is ok??
I'd advise against it.
Very Informative. Thank You. Rubber Mulch SUCKS !!!!
Is using saw dust good
No
How many sand pouches is required for 4 ft ? I want the punching bag heavy and hard
what about wooden dust ? can we use it for filling ?
No
Beans? Rice?
Beans at the bottom for weight, old clothes from there up...?
What about putting dirt or water or mud?
I would advise against it.
Lots of old clothings and paper at the bottom, fill the rest with sand.
What is the proper way to condition shin?
I will do a video about that. Stay tuned.
Rolling pin
Kick things. Pretty simple really...
I rolled up a mattress topper and wrapped it with gorilla tape.
That can work and some heavy bags use a similar idea. But usually, that's too light, so you might need to place something heavy as a core of the rolled up mattress.
how about sand and old clothes?
I would advise against it.
If you hit the bag with correct distance you shouldn't damage your hands
How about if we stuffed it with saw dust? Is it ok?
I'm not a fan for the same reasons as sand.
What about water?
That works, but you need a heavy bag specifically made for it. I have a list here: wimdemeere.com/books/heavybag/