@@Hippyknight99 I saw a cool suggestion where if Magenta dies Cell Max will still be activated but at some point he’ll be hit with Gamma 2’s core breaker.
@@sznobu doesn't matter at all. balance is more important than if cell max spawning at full health makes sense or not. also someone here commented that they could have gamma 2 use his suicide attack as an explanation for lower health cell max
if magenta didnt get stunned every time someone so much as breathed down his neck he might be able to make it, also they should make his jetpack skill have like 2 stocks or something
@ironcane I've been watching for a year or so, and I've noticed the quality go up. Also screw special needs cannon users. It's a coward move. I lost a zamasu game the other day to that crap. 3 people using it and they were barely able to win. Anyways keep up the great vids
@default_liver1641 yeah it's honestly pathetic. They really are special needs if they need special needs cannon to win against a raider. It's like using dragon burn, petrifying spit and special beam cannon (beast) in xenoverse 2
I remembered this livestream, when the match ends iron is so mad that he keep talking shit that he will never said because of those stupid comments, but then ZvG and other friends? I guess ? cheers him up then iron back to normal soon, that’s the weirdest and the warmest scene I have ever seen in Iron Stream or Videos
Absolute great game design... it's not. If you try to have fun you'll lose the game. Play boring you might win the game. It sucks so much for raiders with how these games end up playing out.
You'd think some playtesting would reveal that this "Oops you lose!" mechanic isn't a great fit and they'd make it so if Magenta gets downed then the Gammas return or something It'd still be a rough end game, (I know jack squat since I don't play breakers but my guess -) they get supplies for magenta spawning don't they? So end game would become "You're locked at level 3, they have supplies, but maybe the gammas full heal to compensate?" Sure, lore or whatever, they probably are helping Hedo when Magenta spawns but why wouldn't they return to their 'duty'? Have a voice line from Hedo like "You have to finish what we started" or some nonsense if Magenta goes down - at least give the raider a chance so if they WERE winning they probably still WILL win even post-supplies but then Magenta-> Cell Max could be a hail mary way of winning some games that weren't going so hot. I feel like if the safety net of level 3 existed then it'd feel quite a bit better overall for both sides- the raider is still jank with that level 4 but at least then it'd be "Oh, we lost to Cell Max, good on the raider actually surviving as magenta" in the new-worst-case-scenario from their POV. Still wouldn't really make the raider as stable as what other raiders appear to be, but at least then it'd be a raider you know is hoping to win at 3 (either with no magenta spawn or post magenta death) or is otherwise fighting with a built in hail mary if they don't do well at the level 3 fight in which case they'd be putting their eggs in the magenta basket, and if you were already losing as raider and then magenta comes out and loses chances are you won't feel too bad about getting a second (rougher) chance at level 3 before finally fully losing. IDK man. Magenta as currently designed is just a mechanic that punishes raider for playing the game, and the payoff is Cell Max if the stars align which doesn't seem like an incredible payoff. Feel like if the raider is going to be so gamble dependent, then having the loss state be "You're stuck as the gammas against full supplies" would just 'work better'? Like if you were winning, you'll probably win, and if you were losing you'll probably lose. That equals things out does it not?
36:32 - 37:56 Actually here, i think it’s extremely important i have to say it,iron being mad and unusual Not because Blazing God said something Cringe, its because there’s always some comment that’s so disrespectful and pretend they know everything, it happened to many times that makes iron rage, Blazing God is just unlucky to become the guy who pop the balloon, he might said at a wrong moment but thats not mean all on his problems Maybe some of the people really have to think about the stuff they’re saying ,sometimes really will pressured someone slowly, one day the guy will blow like Iron, So internet, Speaking Carefully when you trying to be funny or teasing someone, Sometimes a joke cannot be a excuse you know
I genuinely think that Mike Tyson is correct in what he said: "People got too comfortable behind the screens and talk sh*t without getting punched in the face for it."
@@ironcane I mean.... people playing this game like its ranked, yet there is no ranked for this season..... yet.... I guess it really is that deep for most. 🤷♂
Theese survivors jumping magneta at last second suck too cause they ignore rez typically and only care about lasting till him so they typically throw most of the match
For every game I feel like there's an Unspoken Rule. "If you discover a cheap way to Play, don't Play it." But a lot of people care about Winning more than Having Fun with the game. Camping Bodies and stuff is Cheap. Running Special Beam Cannon and having a Premade Jump the Raider is Cheap. There's Skill then there's Cheap Gameplay to WIN the game. People seem to have more fun Winning than Playing the Game. If you run Cheap OP Builds or do Cheap gameplay JUST to win then you probably smell like Sweat and Beans.
Ngl it’s so frustrating when you follow that unspoken rule and then you watch other ppl with no shame break that rule Im surprised someone put that into words
@NiteStrike they have more pleasure in winning the game instead of Playing the game. They like the Victory Screen as opposed to just Having Fun being the big bad or that Mini Adrenaline Rush of "are we gonna just barely beat him by STM?" THATS where I have fun. I play broly cause it's fun to just go Unga Bunga Monkey man imstead of sitting there methodically Aiming at where they will be at and sniping someone across the map. Baby WAS fun but every time I hear Shenron being summoned it kills my enthusiasm cause it's the same "strategy", stay back and aim your BS Powerful Attack from afar and run when the raider is getting Close. It's a Good Strategy but when you run into it over and Over and Over the Game becomes exhausting to even think about playing because of of the simple thought of that strategy being used against you.
This is why I block people that play in gross ways even if they helped me win a match and even if it ruins my matchmaking even further. I just want to actually play the game, especially if it takes an hour to get to play the Raider once.
@chrizzel28 I don't block people personally. Just does more harm than Good in my opinion. Not against it just don't see that much use personally. I feel like it should be more In Depth like "Block user as Raider" and "Block user as survivor" just to bypass the Matchmaking issue entirely if that makes sense.
You need to use the cloak first and run in the wrong direction to distract them, then take the long way round the edge of the map to the base. Sure you might end up with 50% on the STM but if you rush it with Cell Max they won't have time to stop you unless they're very quick
20:33 HE BROKE GORESH’s SETUP😂 Magenta hasn’t sold any games for me yet, but I have had SO MANY close calls with losing matches over him. He always throws games out the window with his presence alone and it’s salt in the wound if the gammas did a good job. They need to have magenta auto evolve with repercussions like having gamma 2 break his arm so his melees are slower or something, just don’t have the raider lose their momentum over it. Part of me hopes their balance update is taking so long bcuz they’re working on a new animation for that scenario
I hate the fact that my game is super gliched and everytime i get a full lobby, the game disconects and i can't play a match. And the worst part is that this has been hapening for a week.
Bro Cell Max himself is actually ass though because of Orange Piccolo. if I had the choice. I would stay as Gammaa's but we don't have that option now do we. I know the Gammas themselves are good raider. I defeated a premade while the Gammas were still IN the STM phase, they are that good. Magenta and even Cell Max killed a good raider
@@KarsonDaniel Him getting a Gaiden game during Ichiban's prison sentence might be interesting; I just don't think he's popular enough to get his own game. A guest playable character in a coliseum would also be cool. Of course him being in Ichiban's party would also be cool and he can even be the replacement of sorts for Kiryu like you've said.
@ Funny A has been the only place I’ve spawned as Majin Buu. I swear I haven’t even tried level 2 Strat this season but it’s all I can do because my spawns are ass. The only time I’ve got level 3 & onward is because of survivors in the STM phase.
Yea that's why I don't wanna play the gamma's until they fix them. Especially since people know how to find where magenta spawns since he spawns in the same area the gamma's spawn.
You want them to waste/use their change to try get the key so when we turn magenta not everyone gonna jump on same time. Returning the key when there only few key left just making thing harder
Because Magenta comes out starting from 7 minutes into the game, I found the best way to play the Gammas is to help out the Survivors: find keys and then give them to the Survivors (by letting them hit you once) so they set them quickly, so you get to stay the Gammas during the STM. Also, make sure you do get to lvl 2 of course so you won't just die at the STM anyway. If they don't put everything into stalling you, you destroy the STM. If they do put everything into stalling you they may stall you until Magenta, but by then they're completely spent so you can just take the straightest route to a lab not caring about stealth, and then you just Instant Descent as Cell Max and destroy the STM just barely in time. Of course, it's a really stupid way to play, and fails the moment Survivors just decide to NOT set the keys so I'm shooting myself in the foot giving this strategy, but I'd much rather just want this Raider to be fixed so Magenta isn't such a seller anymore.
Yeah, Magenta is pretty often a lose condition for people. That being said, (haven't finished video yet) but I believe the first match could have been a win had you used your android barrier that wasn't on cooldown to finish off the STM before focusing on the level 4. Way the level 4 was playing I don't think they would have popped the barrier quick enough to prevent the destruction.
I had a game where the raider got the 7 DB and made the wish show me an ideal futur and got Magenta and we showed him whats an ideal futur by destroying him 😂😂😂
You did not play Magenta the way he was supposed to. First match, you ran toward them. You can see them to avoid them for a reason. Misplay by you why they found and eliminated you as Magenta. You have to be stealthy. You might be level a 4, but as Magenta, you're level 0. Cell Max is lvl 4. 😊
@YeahimThatGuy I can't wait till you see the premade trials lol. Players can literally camp out the bunkers and there's literally nothing you can do LOL. WHY ARE WE DEFENDING MAGENTA
Well hey, maybe magenta will get the Spopovich buff that was OBVIOUSLY VERY MUCH NEEDED ability to instantly teleport to the objective, just like how they did it in the show 😉
Why are you not using your clones iron? You use up your jet pack that has a 60 second cooldown, and then just run right in front of the survivors. Lead them away with your clone or something??? He does this at 9:10, flying right in front of the survivors and then blaming magenta? As if it wasn’t his fault 😭
@YeahimThatGuy champ if you get caught after the clones then what? I'd love to know. I could've played magenta better sure, but let's not pretend like the mechanic is perfect and doesn't need improvement.
@@ironcane yes I agree, his abilities are lack luster and down right terrible, never once did I say his abilities were good. But, you’re still misplaying him. You’re dying because of your own playstyle. Hence why these three games you lost.
@YeahimThatGuy and I never said I played magenta perfectly lol. Its still silly losing an entire game if you aren't using the "right playstyle" which is maximizing 2 abilities LOL. Watch the premade trails, hEnCe you'll see why he's stupid.
@@YeahimThatGuy You can do everything right and still get caught out cause the Players know where the bunkers are and where the spawn is. This is why Gamma players half the time are just key and body camping, the mechanics both enforce and enable it and in turn, the Survivors have a very garbage game. Because there's no sense of randomness to the placement of those bunkers AND to Magenta's spawn, you will inevitably get players, especially as this season goes, who will predict exactly where they need to be in order to cut Magenta off. It's bad design. Period. The average player has lost over and over because of its bad design, and what the hell is the point of getting more players into the game if we're gatekeeping bad design?
I mean, you're using the jetpack frame 1 instead of saving it for when survivors are transforming. Don't use the jet pack right away, and use the clone to distract them first. You get a few seconds of invisibility, so use them to break line of sight first, then use the clone, lead them away from your objective and then run towards the other way, and use the jetpack only when necessary.
Alright so I never gotten my opinion out on this raider so here is what I saw from vids(I Dont play anymore) I think a raider being forced to hide from survivors is kind of awful. Like...All that can happen is Magenta will just die if cell max is across the map from you. That is absurd. So the way to buff this is just...make the spawns super close. Enough to where you can get it while still risking it. Other than that ki blasts look awful.
First clip: didn’t use the clone when survivors were closing in Second clip: no comment, you were kinda screwed Third clip: Runs into an survivor sommoning shenron and tries to stop them Maybe you should try to not rush straight to the closest base and play more stealthily?
I had some great matches with them. You have to know how to use them, mainly Magenta. Be as stealthy as possible, lol. Magenta is a human, so his durability is logic and him dying by those attacks with his modified body is logic and thus is balanced. Ggs to their team.😊
@mlpkillers6293 i don't think having only two abilities that you can use once per minute when getting caught once is death is balanced imo. Its a fun mechanic but you truly can't do anything but pray when caught. And on some maps it's way too difficult to get to bases when for others one jetpack boost is all it takes. There are flaws, as a player you can do your best to mitigate them, but you can only do so much.
I hate that excuse that just because a character is "human" in canon means they should die in 2 seconds in a video game especially a level 4 lmao but idk if you're trolling or not
Thankfully no one in the community will ever know my name. One I don’t play cunty. But also I can’t get into any matches. Thanks for these sell matches. They are horrible experiences but good videos.
idk if you know who steedoj is but he’s basically the xenoverse 2 version of you in the sense that yall both hate overpowered and unbalanced things to the point where whole reddit groups will be made hating on you two, but occasionally he’ll play some super sweaty cheese just for content every once in a blue moon, i was thinking you should do that from time to time. every season you should play a match or two using the most ball sweating, no life combination of skills to exist
tbh you sold on that first match you sold the other ability makes you invisible when they kill the clone and you could have used it and actually have a chance to get sell max out magenta still sucks tho
Anyone who defeated Magenta can go to Weenie Hut Jr's. Anyone who prefers defeating Cell Max instead of Magenta can go to the Salty Spitoon That's why I won't defeat Raider Magenta because I defeated Cell Max three times
Your gamma gameplay was very great. Too bad Magenta is trash. The last match sucks that you had to pay like that just so you can get a win. But still lost because you wanted to play the game and not be a scum bag.
@@mlpkillers6293 Winning with the Gammas is simple. Find one key, one dragon ball, and hold onto both of them for dear life until either the timer expires or the ETM points appear. 90% of solo queue teams will never get the key back if you know how to run away properly, like flying straight up and using instant descent or spam dodging like the average super transphere user in season 5.
How many games has magenta sold for you? I'm at least on 5-6 LOL
Surprisingly 0 but I know it’s coming lol
None so far but i know its inevitable 😭
Only once surprisingly
10 for me
I haven't played this season since my Nintendo switch online ran out
Magenta: "I've had enough of this im activating Sell MAX." Dr. Hedo:"Your selling the match!" [gun shot]
Gammas: Doctor!
THATS IT, IM ACTIVATING SELL MATCH
@Prince_Vegegoat “Enough with this Bag Selling!”
@Demitrius-jj9qj [Survivor special beam cannon]
Gaaaahhh!! -sell the match
Bro used his jet pack that’s on a 50+ second cooldown to punch a survivor that had Dchange 😭😭god I love you Iron 🤣
@@NoReasonBro chad love right there ngl.
I'm actually impressed they made Magenta worse than first form Baby. I'm excited to see what they can do for the next raider.
that was the point, it's literally called the "Magenta Challenge"
I love your content and your devotion towards this game, you are THE breaker youtuber, since 2022.
🙏
"Magenta has ruined my life"
*Goes with Magenta towards the survivors' faces*
Ill make sure YOU have the controller next time 🫡
Iron, just AVOID AND HIDE, take your time and wish for the best @@ironcane
Lowkey not giving magenta a type if second life where he respawns somewhere with a quarter of health so atleast magenta isnt sooooo eh
That or make it you play damaged Cell Max if Magenta gets killed?
Or if you can chose when to go to magenta
@@Hippyknight99makes no sense
@@Hippyknight99 I saw a cool suggestion where if Magenta dies Cell Max will still be activated but at some point he’ll be hit with Gamma 2’s core breaker.
@@sznobu doesn't matter at all. balance is more important than if cell max spawning at full health makes sense or not. also someone here commented that they could have gamma 2 use his suicide attack as an explanation for lower health cell max
if magenta didnt get stunned every time someone so much as breathed down his neck he might be able to make it, also they should make his jetpack skill have like 2 stocks or something
ive had enough of this! im activating sell match!
Bros production quality has gone through the roof over the past few months.
@supersweet8772 been trying! Not at the level where every vid can be super edited but I'm trying to find a balance!!
@ironcane I've been watching for a year or so, and I've noticed the quality go up. Also screw special needs cannon users. It's a coward move. I lost a zamasu game the other day to that crap. 3 people using it and they were barely able to win. Anyways keep up the great vids
@@supersweet8772 and its not even ranked, just taking SBC into casual matches like come on 😭
@default_liver1641 yeah it's honestly pathetic. They really are special needs if they need special needs cannon to win against a raider. It's like using dragon burn, petrifying spit and special beam cannon (beast) in xenoverse 2
I remembered this livestream, when the match ends iron is so mad that he keep talking shit that he will never said because of those stupid comments, but then ZvG and other friends? I guess ? cheers him up then iron back to normal soon, that’s the weirdest and the warmest scene I have ever seen in Iron Stream or Videos
Guess the honeymoon phase is over
Absolute great game design... it's not. If you try to have fun you'll lose the game. Play boring you might win the game. It sucks so much for raiders with how these games end up playing out.
"D'oh! I MISSED!"
You'd think some playtesting would reveal that this "Oops you lose!" mechanic isn't a great fit and they'd make it so if Magenta gets downed then the Gammas return or something
It'd still be a rough end game, (I know jack squat since I don't play breakers but my guess -) they get supplies for magenta spawning don't they? So end game would become "You're locked at level 3, they have supplies, but maybe the gammas full heal to compensate?"
Sure, lore or whatever, they probably are helping Hedo when Magenta spawns but why wouldn't they return to their 'duty'?
Have a voice line from Hedo like "You have to finish what we started" or some nonsense if Magenta goes down - at least give the raider a chance so if they WERE winning they probably still WILL win even post-supplies but then Magenta-> Cell Max could be a hail mary way of winning some games that weren't going so hot. I feel like if the safety net of level 3 existed then it'd feel quite a bit better overall for both sides- the raider is still jank with that level 4 but at least then it'd be "Oh, we lost to Cell Max, good on the raider actually surviving as magenta" in the new-worst-case-scenario from their POV.
Still wouldn't really make the raider as stable as what other raiders appear to be, but at least then it'd be a raider you know is hoping to win at 3 (either with no magenta spawn or post magenta death) or is otherwise fighting with a built in hail mary if they don't do well at the level 3 fight in which case they'd be putting their eggs in the magenta basket, and if you were already losing as raider and then magenta comes out and loses chances are you won't feel too bad about getting a second (rougher) chance at level 3 before finally fully losing.
IDK man. Magenta as currently designed is just a mechanic that punishes raider for playing the game, and the payoff is Cell Max if the stars align which doesn't seem like an incredible payoff.
Feel like if the raider is going to be so gamble dependent, then having the loss state be "You're stuck as the gammas against full supplies" would just 'work better'?
Like if you were winning, you'll probably win, and if you were losing you'll probably lose. That equals things out does it not?
36:32 - 37:56 Actually here, i think it’s extremely important i have to say it,iron being mad and unusual Not because Blazing God said something Cringe, its because there’s always some comment that’s so disrespectful and pretend they know everything, it happened to many times that makes iron rage, Blazing God is just unlucky to become the guy who pop the balloon, he might said at a wrong moment but thats not mean all on his problems
Maybe some of the people really have to think about the stuff they’re saying ,sometimes really will pressured someone slowly, one day the guy will blow like Iron, So internet, Speaking Carefully when you trying to be funny or teasing someone, Sometimes a joke cannot be a excuse you know
I genuinely think that Mike Tyson is correct in what he said: "People got too comfortable behind the screens and talk sh*t without getting punched in the face for it."
It can't possibly be that deep....
@@deoxysandmew2162 i would hope no one is getting punched over Dragon Ball The Breakers 💀💀💀
@@ironcaneDeeper iron !!! Deeper !!!! Oh yeah oh yeah
@@ironcane I mean.... people playing this game like its ranked, yet there is no ranked for this season..... yet....
I guess it really is that deep for most. 🤷♂
Theese survivors jumping magneta at last second suck too cause they ignore rez typically and only care about lasting till him so they typically throw most of the match
For every game I feel like there's an Unspoken Rule. "If you discover a cheap way to Play, don't Play it."
But a lot of people care about Winning more than Having Fun with the game. Camping Bodies and stuff is Cheap. Running Special Beam Cannon and having a Premade Jump the Raider is Cheap.
There's Skill then there's Cheap Gameplay to WIN the game.
People seem to have more fun Winning than Playing the Game. If you run Cheap OP Builds or do Cheap gameplay JUST to win then you probably smell like Sweat and Beans.
Ngl it’s so frustrating when you follow that unspoken rule and then you watch other ppl with no shame break that rule Im surprised someone put that into words
@NiteStrike they have more pleasure in winning the game instead of Playing the game. They like the Victory Screen as opposed to just Having Fun being the big bad or that Mini Adrenaline Rush of "are we gonna just barely beat him by STM?"
THATS where I have fun. I play broly cause it's fun to just go Unga Bunga Monkey man imstead of sitting there methodically Aiming at where they will be at and sniping someone across the map.
Baby WAS fun but every time I hear Shenron being summoned it kills my enthusiasm cause it's the same "strategy", stay back and aim your BS Powerful Attack from afar and run when the raider is getting Close.
It's a Good Strategy but when you run into it over and Over and Over the Game becomes exhausting to even think about playing because of of the simple thought of that strategy being used against you.
This is why I block people that play in gross ways even if they helped me win a match and even if it ruins my matchmaking even further. I just want to actually play the game, especially if it takes an hour to get to play the Raider once.
@chrizzel28 I don't block people personally. Just does more harm than Good in my opinion. Not against it just don't see that much use personally.
I feel like it should be more In Depth like "Block user as Raider" and "Block user as survivor" just to bypass the Matchmaking issue entirely if that makes sense.
I wish that was an unspoken rule. From my experience, it's more like "if there's a cheap way to play, most people will be abusing it"
You need to use the cloak first and run in the wrong direction to distract them, then take the long way round the edge of the map to the base. Sure you might end up with 50% on the STM but if you rush it with Cell Max they won't have time to stop you unless they're very quick
20:33 HE BROKE GORESH’s SETUP😂
Magenta hasn’t sold any games for me yet, but I have had SO MANY close calls with losing matches over him. He always throws games out the window with his presence alone and it’s salt in the wound if the gammas did a good job. They need to have magenta auto evolve with repercussions like having gamma 2 break his arm so his melees are slower or something, just don’t have the raider lose their momentum over it. Part of me hopes their balance update is taking so long bcuz they’re working on a new animation for that scenario
Excatly. I had some bad games but learned from my mistakes. Rng based if Survivors find the spawn which they shouldn't be able to.😊
I hate the fact that my game is super gliched and everytime i get a full lobby, the game disconects and i can't play a match. And the worst part is that this has been hapening for a week.
"I've had enough of this! I'm quitting breakers!"
Bro Cell Max himself is actually ass though because of Orange Piccolo. if I had the choice. I would stay as Gammaa's but we don't have that option now do we. I know the Gammas themselves are good raider. I defeated a premade while the Gammas were still IN the STM phase, they are that good. Magenta and even Cell Max killed a good raider
Breakers like let's make Buu easier to play as while making a raider that can sell the match for you
Wasn't expecting Brutality Rebuild at the beginning, ha.
Hopefully my goats playable in yakuza 9!!!!!!!!!! He will have the style change feature Kiryu had
@@KarsonDaniel Him getting a Gaiden game during Ichiban's prison sentence might be interesting; I just don't think he's popular enough to get his own game. A guest playable character in a coliseum would also be cool. Of course him being in Ichiban's party would also be cool and he can even be the replacement of sorts for Kiryu like you've said.
Its Real Guys, Mario has finally gotten ahold of Ironcane.
Wario* for someone who was Mario’s voice actor he gives so much wario vibes honestly lol
@NiteStrike AYE! ITS STRIKE! After I get My GED I'm working on getting a PS5. My first game will be DB BREAKERS!
"I had enough of this im activating Sell Match!"😂
Dark Future is trash for any raider that relies on civilians.
Area D has good civ spawns but that's a 1/3 chance, and pray god you don't spawn on top of a building in area A
@ Funny A has been the only place I’ve spawned as Majin Buu. I swear I haven’t even tried level 2 Strat this season but it’s all I can do because my spawns are ass. The only time I’ve got level 3 & onward is because of survivors in the STM phase.
Thanks for helping keep the Breakers alive! We all have our misplays.😊
5:30 you should’ve held on to that key untill there was 4 survivors left that way when they run out of resources you can easily get cell max
The only reason I like the dark future map is cause it’s my favorite arc in db
Imagine they just added a Magenta button when you reach max level 3 so you can at least choose when to sell the match.
Yea that's why I don't wanna play the gamma's until they fix them. Especially since people know how to find where magenta spawns since he spawns in the same area the gamma's spawn.
0:02 Jo sawashiro theme IW Playing 😱
And this is why people key hold bro cause of this key rushing and megenta
You want them to waste/use their change to try get the key so when we turn magenta not everyone gonna jump on same time.
Returning the key when there only few key left just making thing harder
@ I’m just saying you don’t have to do it but it’s the way raider was designed
Passive skill between now it’s my turn and movement speed boost asphalt.
Because Magenta comes out starting from 7 minutes into the game, I found the best way to play the Gammas is to help out the Survivors: find keys and then give them to the Survivors (by letting them hit you once) so they set them quickly, so you get to stay the Gammas during the STM. Also, make sure you do get to lvl 2 of course so you won't just die at the STM anyway. If they don't put everything into stalling you, you destroy the STM. If they do put everything into stalling you they may stall you until Magenta, but by then they're completely spent so you can just take the straightest route to a lab not caring about stealth, and then you just Instant Descent as Cell Max and destroy the STM just barely in time.
Of course, it's a really stupid way to play, and fails the moment Survivors just decide to NOT set the keys so I'm shooting myself in the foot giving this strategy, but I'd much rather just want this Raider to be fixed so Magenta isn't such a seller anymore.
Activating Sell Match!
You had the perfect chance to force a jumping from the survivors in the first match, literally found 2 keys and just gave them away.
Take the controller next time 🫡
Yeah, keep those keys. Weaken the team before Magenta.
Yo played very well with the Gammas!😊
I mean with the first one I gotta say you kinda gave up by running straight through mid when you had so far to go and so many people to juke.
Just had a raider match today and I won as magenta. I did not expect that to happen lol
Yeah, Magenta is pretty often a lose condition for people. That being said, (haven't finished video yet) but I believe the first match could have been a win had you used your android barrier that wasn't on cooldown to finish off the STM before focusing on the level 4. Way the level 4 was playing I don't think they would have popped the barrier quick enough to prevent the destruction.
Thats it! Im activating sell match!
don.t drink and play magenta folks
This was the first time when i played as the new raider and lost my first game the gammas downfall needs to be studied
If iron is raging this much at the beginning of szn 7, I can’t wait to see ranked 😭
5:26-5:53 you gotta admit that was clean 🧼 😅
I had a game where the raider got the 7 DB and made the wish show me an ideal futur and got Magenta and we showed him whats an ideal futur by destroying him 😂😂😂
You did not play Magenta the way he was supposed to. First match, you ran toward them. You can see them to avoid them for a reason. Misplay by you why they found and eliminated you as Magenta. You have to be stealthy. You might be level a 4, but as Magenta, you're level 0. Cell Max is lvl 4. 😊
Ehhhhhhhh I get it, but that doesn't excuse how trash he is lol
@@ironcaneinstead of taking the most direct route to the bunkers. Go the long way and go around.
Btw block bubbles he is a groomer.
Literally running right into survivors, playing him incorrectly and saying he’s trash.
@@littlebadassgamingwait really? Also I saw the JECCPN vid with the goku black match against him and that kinda cemented my opinion on them
@YeahimThatGuy I can't wait till you see the premade trials lol. Players can literally camp out the bunkers and there's literally nothing you can do LOL.
WHY ARE WE DEFENDING MAGENTA
The 3rd match was your fault. You should've let them summon while you active Cell Max! Focus on the lab. 😊
Your chances were way higher if you did.😉😅
Well hey, maybe magenta will get the Spopovich buff that was OBVIOUSLY VERY MUCH NEEDED ability to instantly teleport to the objective, just like how they did it in the show 😉
Sell Max will never get old
man this raider is hot grabage
BlazingGod getting called out😂
Why are you not using your clones iron? You use up your jet pack that has a 60 second cooldown, and then just run right in front of the survivors. Lead them away with your clone or something??? He does this at 9:10, flying right in front of the survivors and then blaming magenta? As if it wasn’t his fault 😭
@YeahimThatGuy champ if you get caught after the clones then what? I'd love to know. I could've played magenta better sure, but let's not pretend like the mechanic is perfect and doesn't need improvement.
@@ironcane yes I agree, his abilities are lack luster and down right terrible, never once did I say his abilities were good. But, you’re still misplaying him. You’re dying because of your own playstyle. Hence why these three games you lost.
@YeahimThatGuy and I never said I played magenta perfectly lol. Its still silly losing an entire game if you aren't using the "right playstyle" which is maximizing 2 abilities LOL.
Watch the premade trails, hEnCe you'll see why he's stupid.
@@YeahimThatGuy You can do everything right and still get caught out cause the Players know where the bunkers are and where the spawn is. This is why Gamma players half the time are just key and body camping, the mechanics both enforce and enable it and in turn, the Survivors have a very garbage game. Because there's no sense of randomness to the placement of those bunkers AND to Magenta's spawn, you will inevitably get players, especially as this season goes, who will predict exactly where they need to be in order to cut Magenta off.
It's bad design. Period. The average player has lost over and over because of its bad design, and what the hell is the point of getting more players into the game if we're gatekeeping bad design?
I mean, you're using the jetpack frame 1 instead of saving it for when survivors are transforming. Don't use the jet pack right away, and use the clone to distract them first. You get a few seconds of invisibility, so use them to break line of sight first, then use the clone, lead them away from your objective and then run towards the other way, and use the jetpack only when necessary.
The raider is such garbage hahaha. Why would they design a raider with such a huge weakness?
I’m missing a skill for adult gohan.
Let’s go another iron cane video
I enjoy Dark Future, but I'm not sure why. I guess I just vibe with it.
Ironcane pls don’t torture yourself playing Gammas
Alright so I never gotten my opinion out on this raider so here is what I saw from vids(I Dont play anymore)
I think a raider being forced to hide from survivors is kind of awful. Like...All that can happen is Magenta will just die if cell max is across the map from you. That is absurd. So the way to buff this is just...make the spawns super close. Enough to where you can get it while still risking it. Other than that ki blasts look awful.
Okay that last game pissed me off. YOU HAVE TO BE A BITCH TO WIN! YOU HAVE TO! That is the worst raider design fucking EVER!
First clip: didn’t use the clone when survivors were closing in
Second clip: no comment, you were kinda screwed
Third clip: Runs into an survivor sommoning shenron and tries to stop them
Maybe you should try to not rush straight to the closest base and play more stealthily?
They should make cell max likr a button you press lmao
No lie sold using your jet pack to punch the dragon ball summoner😂
I had some great matches with them. You have to know how to use them, mainly Magenta. Be as stealthy as possible, lol. Magenta is a human, so his durability is logic and him dying by those attacks with his modified body is logic and thus is balanced. Ggs to their team.😊
@mlpkillers6293 i don't think having only two abilities that you can use once per minute when getting caught once is death is balanced imo.
Its a fun mechanic but you truly can't do anything but pray when caught. And on some maps it's way too difficult to get to bases when for others one jetpack boost is all it takes. There are flaws, as a player you can do your best to mitigate them, but you can only do so much.
I hate that excuse that just because a character is "human" in canon means they should die in 2 seconds in a video game especially a level 4 lmao but idk if you're trolling or not
I still haven't gotten to play once in season 7. Switch servers are garbage 😩
dominate as gammas only to lose due to forced evo into magenta, asian servers just camp the hidden bases till magenta comes out.
This is why I refuse to play the gammas because of this bullshit
I say for me just one time 😅
Thankfully no one in the community will ever know my name. One I don’t play cunty. But also I can’t get into any matches. Thanks for these sell matches. They are horrible experiences but good videos.
idk if you know who steedoj is but he’s basically the xenoverse 2 version of you in the sense that yall both hate overpowered and unbalanced things to the point where whole reddit groups will be made hating on you two, but occasionally he’ll play some super sweaty cheese just for content every once in a blue moon, i was thinking you should do that from time to time. every season you should play a match or two using the most ball sweating, no life combination of skills to exist
How do you get worse with each season and raider
Okay tmastergaming okay bro lol
Don't make walk first or ppl will notice you, You need first using optical camouflage
Your plan successful ppl don't notice you after you got cell max
Hi there Jeremiah lol😊
tbh you sold on that first match you sold the other ability makes you invisible when they kill the clone and you could have used it and actually have a chance to get sell max out magenta still sucks tho
Anyone who defeated Magenta can go to Weenie Hut Jr's.
Anyone who prefers defeating Cell Max instead of Magenta can go to the Salty Spitoon
That's why I won't defeat Raider Magenta because I defeated Cell Max three times
I love tipsy cane
Poor Magenta.. lol
Your gamma gameplay was very great. Too bad Magenta is trash. The last match sucks that you had to pay like that just so you can get a win. But still lost because you wanted to play the game and not be a scum bag.
sparking?
When Gammas drop ill be all over it!
And people who play like this don’t touch grass
Skill issue? I thought so
@@joselosuckskill issue because of p2w MoB and ICFY?
Oh look what we have here a punk who thinks he’s a hot shot
Magenta tried to activate Sell Max you lost every match due to that so just accept Gamma's are worst raider
I had some great matches with them. You have to know how to use them, mainly Magenta. Be as stealthy as possible, lol. 😊
@@mlpkillers6293 Winning with the Gammas is simple. Find one key, one dragon ball, and hold onto both of them for dear life until either the timer expires or the ETM points appear. 90% of solo queue teams will never get the key back if you know how to run away properly, like flying straight up and using instant descent or spam dodging like the average super transphere user in season 5.
36:32 the crying gives us tons of extra life
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Plenty of time to clone
🎮 its yours next time
Funny video keep it up I'll be waiting for some sniping 😏
ngl iron cane ya got outplayed
🎮 take it
Well i dont have any hands