Seth Andrews - Our Lord & Saviour, Taylor Swift
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- Seth Andrews - Our Lord & Saviour, Taylor Swift
Divorced: Christianity
CW: U.S. politics
Don’t worry, this episode is not ALL about Taytay - but she is a happy part of it.
Today’s guest is Seth Andrews, a former evangelical and Christian broadcaster who now hosts The Thinking Atheist…one of the most popular podcasts and online atheist communities in the world! The Thinking Atheist is not a person. It is an icon encouraging all to reject faith and pursue reason and evidence. Seth has authored five books, including his latest offering, “Christianity Made Me Talk Like an Idiot.” He also hosts a second podcast, "True Stories with Seth Andrews."
In this episode, Seth and I discuss what’s happening in the USA, from atheism to Al Jazeera, with a dash of Taylor Swift thrown in.
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Taylor Swift's music isn't my cup of tea, but I will forever be grateful to her for encouraging her legions of young fans to register to vote. When young people vote, good change happens.
Let's just hope that enough of them will recognize the danger we're in and put aside their reservations about Biden to vote for him in the presidential election in November.
Agreed on all counts.
Exactly right, as long young people (well, everyone) are informed and not misinformed when they vote. That's Republicans greatest strength, the fact so many are willfully ignorant, and apathetic, towards their own Gov.
I think if even 10% of Americans across the country truly understood our politics, Repubs would have no shot at the WH or majorities in either House.
Yep, voting which has been proven to be overridden with fraud
i rather disagree.
you said about young to vote, noble thought.
not so!
it proved to be wrong.
a lot of young to vote what? a very old man, with very old politics.
what good changes was that?
it is never about look how nice young do nice things, like getting high with drug.
it is about what for.
always neglect the nice aspect, and see what for
@@SergiuCosminViorel Thanks for watching.
I became God-Free in 1983...at an Evangelical Seminary in Pasadena, CA.
LOVE IT!
What happened???
Seth is a treasure - he's not angry, he's thoughtful and articulate with a sense of humour and compassion for everyone whether they're theist, agnostic or atheist. And he doesn't suffer fools gladly. Thanks for this interview!
You're very welcome! I agree, Seth is a treasure. Thanks for watching.
Amen!
well said!
I like angry/anger against religion and hypocrisy of concern for freedom of speech and questioning things.
@@ComeToCORT I like angry/anger against religion and hypocrisy of concern for freedom of speech and questioning things.
"Work hard and pray hard" will get you the same as "Work hard".
So true.
@@ComeToCORT and way less disappointment lol
@@CatDaddyGuitar Word! lol
🎯
@@FLATearthGARY Thanks for watching.
I am a huge fan of Seth. Glad you were able to interview him. 😊🇨🇦
He's pretty great, it's true!
Same here in Calgary Untruedaux Land 🇨🇦
Hard on issues, gentle on people...except MTG.🤣🤣
Thank Janice and Seth.
You're welcome! Glad it made you smile.
I saw the name Seth and I came to check it out. Glad I did this. From Belgium.
Love Seth! He is a big part of my deconversion!
Awesome!
I often wondered how a gay person felt when they would have to "come out" to their friends and family, the courage that it took. I think it is that kind of courage that I need to be able to tell my friends and some family that I am not a Christian any more. I have only told about 3 people, I just think that maybe I don't need to share it with anyone but it must be such a feeling of freedom.
It can be intensely scary and intensely lilberating. We struggle with the need for approval AND the need for authenticity, until one wins out.
Just look at it as being between you, and the God who doesn't exist.
@@ComeToCORT Amen to THAT.
How did the 3 you told take it?
Seth is absolutely incredible!! I listen to him everyday
Yup - he's Da Bomb!
Hitch 24🎉 20:37
@Scorned405
"Listen", yes. But worship or pray to, No.
As a non-American , I can never get over how hardcore US Christian zealotry can be, nor how some can view DJT as appointed by their god, and how they'd die for him. If an awful man like DJT can do that, it tells me how ANY (better) man can have done it, let's say 2,000 years ago.
@@seanmcmichael2551 It's disturbing to Canadian's too.
There is one aspect of "canceling" people (not attacking them) that you need to be aware of. When someone experiences being devalued by others a lot, emotional survival requires that they cut off people who are going to diminish them. Some people would like to engage with people who have bigoted beliefs and others just do not want to be around them or hear them justify their world view.
Agreed! Thanks for your insight.
Amen!
@@ComeToCORT I like angry/anger against religion and hypocrisy of concern for freedom of speech and questioning things.
Seth had to cancel his mom. It's sad but he needed to
If Seth says Chrissy Stroop ( no idea if I spelled her name right) is brilliant, then I will research her. He is amazing at speaking plainly and forthrightly.
Yes, Chrissy really IS brilliant. I hope you enjoy her writing as much as we do!
I love how Seth explains things so effortlessly. As a former baptist who was indoctrinated since birth, I could listen to him for hours! He's just wonderful! Sending love from Ontario, Canada! 🇨🇦
As a former Pentecostal also indoctrinated since birth, I send you love from BC! Thanks for watching.
@ComeToCORT Thankyou! 😊❤️
I had a dream, Taylor Swift wrote Donald Trump a check for $666 million, and he went away, forever, skipping down the road, singing "Now I don't need Presidential immunity and I don't need that biggly dumb job!"
Taylor recouped the money by releasing all her re-released albums on regular "old school" black vinyl.
Peace, prosperity, and critical thinking reigned for at least 1,000 years.
I was pretty cranky when I woke up and realized it was just a dream.
Aaah, what a dream!
That's a dream I could get behind.
Guess who has the same dream!??
TRUMP
Best. Dream. Ever. 🏆
Good second interview with Seth!
Thank you. I wish he would join me on a regular basis!
Thank you both. Left the church after 30 years.😅
Well done!
Fantastic and all well said, without crazy anger or emotions.
Thanks for watching! We try to keep both angry & crazy to a minimum. ;)
Yes. Look at all the different denominations within Christianity. How, pray tell, do they ever think they could ever stand united about anything. They can't even agree on the color of the carpet for god's sake!!! What kind of world would that be if they were in control? Think about it, please!
Agreed. Thanks for watching.
excellent interview
Thank you!
Love this; it's been a while since I regularly listened to Seth's podcasts, but this is up there with the best of them, and it is not only Canadians who are watching what is happening in your country with fear and trepidation, but we are feeling considerable anxiety in Australia as well, and wondering whether our government will do the right thing should Trump get re-elected and cancel both the ANZUS and AUKUS agreements, because in that case an alliance with the US would put us on the wrong, rather than right, side of history!
Disagree about Taylor's music however; I was subjected to it in a fish and chip shop once, and it was crap (does that make me a hipster?)! That being said, if that is what it takes to put between the world and Trump, bring it on! :-O
Thanks very much for watching and commenting!
Great convo. Ty!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
I read the bible and books that told how the canon was made that made me deconstuct
Yes, this is more common than people realize! Thanks for watching.
I came to the bible late from a background in science and math. I have seen videos and books about the Bible. I don't need to read it.
Watching from Scotland and appreciate both of you putting your time and effort into providing a community for us that have newly stepped away from the Christian faith and world view. 😅❤
Keep going, never know I may speak up one day….😊
I am honored that you're watching from Scotland. Thank you!
@@ComeToCORTlast year we went to the Outer Hebrides in our camper van. We were parked up in a small village on Sunday having a snack when we got tooted at by the driver of a car full of dour old church-goers for what we can only assume was having the audacity to be out in our van on the Sabbath!!!! They're weird out there!!!!
@@jonathanrussell1140 LOL!!! Spoilsports abound... Thanks for watching and sharing.
There is quote somewhere that says seek and you shall find the The deeper you dig more of the truth and freedom You shall find. Set yourself free and you shall be happy.
Truth and freedom are both important. Thanks for watching.
A quote from "somewhere", lol
I view some of the Bible as having human wisdom and not to be totally dismissed
There's much in there that's plain old "common sense".😮
22:54 ❤
23:08 🎉
Two parties.
Madness.
I'm in Calgary Alberta Untruedaux Land. We have issues, plenty of room up here. 24:33
I think you're right. 24:57
25:25 all empire's end.
One continent
Argentina to Canada. 28:31
Yes
As a Jewish Atheist we need to get along 29:46
They, 1% don't care about us.
Unless it'll make money.
Stay Safe
Stay Free 31:03 peace and love, etc
31:29
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Fellow Albertan here we certainly have our problems especially with our UCP premier and take back Alberta with so much power. The anti Trudeau hate is dangerous
I am a liberal Christian. I see biblical stories as subversive ideologies (theologies) that was challenging the contemporary imperialist ideology (theology) than conspiracy theory.
Interesting. Thanks for watching our conversation.
Now there's something i never knew about Seth Andrews that he was even a Christian broadcaster?! 😮
His voice is like smooooooth silk. Thanks for watching!
oh yes..he was born into and brought up Fundy, took him sooo much courage to change his direction..to
*REPENT*, which means "to turn around".
@@ula6222 Thanks for watching.
Seth Rocks!
He really does! Thanks for watching.
11:50 These are dark times we live in, for everyone. I am French and I'm worried about the US elections too, as well as about so many other menacing events...
Yes, these are troubling days.
28:10 I am convinced that *if* we manage to survive and to keep pushing in the right direction for a bit longer everything will improve much faster than we tend to think. The progressist drive is strong. It faces a strong resistance, but it is just a sign of the opposite side's panic. They're taking us seriously. *If* we survive we'll soon be free I'm sure. Granted, that's a big "if".
Thanks for watching.
I am a 64 year old woman and have never believed in god.
That is AWESOME! Thaks for watching.
hmmmm.....okaaay......is this a test of some kind?? A competition? Nah..just yanking your chain 😅
34:40 Taylor Swift is a genius (I don't care if it was her idea or not) for having re-recorded her own albums to get back ownership of them, that takes some wrecking balls.
Agreed!
Definitely planning to see Civil War. To me, it’s a warning. I fear many in the audience will welcome it. It is unnerving to think in a theater of what looks like ordinary, decent people-a couple of boisterous young men in the front, a married couple with their teen children in the middle, a lone, unremarkable middle aged dude in the back-there will be at least a few who will see the chaos, terror, grief and pain displayed on the big screen and will think to themselves, “Bring it!”
It is very concerning. Thanks for watching.
10:27 Stumbling across a Hitch debate. That's what I did when I had Covid in 2022! I had gradually thrown off the shackles of religion in the UK in my teens - they weren't really locked, to be honest, it's the UK after all, but the indoctrination is there from an early age - it's just that we're untroubled by YECs trying to control education so you get taught stuff in school so you kind of get to choose which path you take.
Anyway, I knew I wasn't religious, but there was always that kind of Pascal's Wager thing going on at the back of my mind, until I literally stumbled across Hitchens vs Hitchens.
Now I knew Peter from programmes like Question Time and knew I didn't like the man politically, and was I even dimly aware that he had a brother? So I watched and as I did, I heard Christopher articulate so clearly what was wrong with religion, he just resonated with all the half-formed thoughts and doubts that I had had since my early teens when I persuaded my parents I wasn't really interested in being confirmed and drinking blood and eating flesh (albeit the protestant metaphorical kind). I knew I was happy not believing, but it was stumbling over Hitch in my TH-cam feed that sent me on the journey via Dawkins and the other 2 of the 4 Horsemen, then the whipper-snapper Alex O'Connor, then Aron and Matt and then Seth and now here I am. It is so much easier in the UK, but it's truly great to be able to nail down all the arguments. Onward Atheist Soldiers... Wading into battle in the Comments 😂😂😂😂
Hitch has left quite the legacy. Glad you found your way out and found your way to this channel. Thanks for sharing your experience.
I do really question whether a soft approach or aggressive approach is better. Firebrand atheists still get fan mail saying they've changed people's minds, The problem is that doesn't happen on an individual level , only collectively.
Thanks for watching.
How about a *Goldilocks* approach..even and balanced.
No need to stifle yourself nor huff n puff and blow their heavenly houses down.
A suggestion: Let's not just secede democracy. In other words, why do we accept even the framing that the US will
" loose Democracy". Such a hard won concept should not be just accepted as "oh well, guess it's gone". Preaching to the choir ... the ex choir. ❤
P.s. people are often fleeing their home countries because of US intervention actions in their countries. For example, check out the history of Chile and the Chicago Boys. Naomi Kline wrote a book and made a movie about it.
We can not go on without one another. There is no rising without everyone - in the world. We only rise together. No one left behind. In that case that person was the key to the rising. So no rising without all.
Thanks for watching.
I listened to people interview Trump supporters, and the interviewer asked about how they felt when Trump said he would be a dictator for one day, one of the people said I wouldn't mind having a dictator for 4 years????? These people seem to believe that in 2028 there will be another election for president.... That's just mind-blowing, and frightening, that there are that many clueless people in the US.
They have been indoctrinated and it is deeply disturbing. Thanks for watching.
As an American my whole long life, I've been deeply concerned about the mass of citizens who vote and have not a clue......truly depressing.
I can't leave the JW Faith because I will lose my Family, friends and social construct... So, I continue to fake it well 😢
That's a tough situation, for sure. Starting to build a secular support network might be good. Here's a link to a recent interview with a former JW that might be interesting for you: th-cam.com/video/JylDyhu48Jk/w-d-xo.html You're welcome to reach out to me at www.divorcing-religion.com , too.
Yikes, I so sympathize with you.
The JWs have very intense indoctrination which includes *shunning*, a complete dismissal of YOU.
You can still *perform* outwardly and with remembering that your mind is still *free".
Continue with your private search and it's possible that in the future your situation could change, wether from an inward decision or outward circumstances that arise in your life.
Good luck to you and
"FORWARD...........MARCH'.
🥰💯❣
Thanks, Carol!
A gram of courage would help a lot.
Thanks for watching.
She's still young. Hopefully commonsense will set in and she'll stop believing in fairy tales
Yes. Thanks for watching.
Has Seth actually proved that evolution occurred?
Yes.
LOL
That is not his job, but there is ample scientific evidence available. Thanks for watching.
OMG - Christian rock....
Yup - also known as CCM: Contemporary Christian Music
My god is not the Author of confusion.
Thanks for watching.
Do it your way, Seth, not Yahweh.
LOL Thanks for watching
Why is God the author of confusion!
Good question. Thanks for watching.
God's probably going WTAF are they talking about???? That's not what I said!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
IS "God" the author of confusion 🤔
naahhhhh....just other people's interpretations of "god's word".
While Taylor Swift isn’t my thing either, I’d rather worship at her feet than that of Donald Trump. Talk about being mislead.
Ditto. Thanks for watching.
Cut the music down. Can't understand you.
Not sure what music you're talking about.
What music?
Swift is flying around in her private jet producing a small towns worth of emissions. Not really a role model in todays world.
Good point! Thanks for watching.
@@rebeccaippolito912 Tons of artist do just fine without their own private jet. It's just the multi-millionaires being greedy.
Commercial airlines have more people in them, so the emissions per passenger is lower. But yes, we should use them less too.
I demand that conservatives respect other people's beliefs and opinions and definitions of Communism, Marxism & Socialism and not insult or disrespect Communism, Marxism or Socialism as often as conservatives demand everyone respect religion or nationalism.
Since Communism and Socialism are unfalsifiable untestable concepts with no single authority giving a single definition,
except for Karl Marx, maybe, then they are neither good nor bad, and more than the concept of legality or illegality is either good nor bad. In general, it is a waste of time and a stupid thing to argue about unfalsifiable concepts. That is why everyone should think and act reductionistically only.
Thanks for watching.
As an ex evangelical and a conservative Libertarian, I lost my faith but didn't loose my distaste for big government. I hate when great people in the Atheist space talk politics (left or right). Seems like I can't get away from it anywhere. I really appreciate you both, just not the political crap.
Thanks for watching.
Amen@
Since you self-identified as a "libertarian", oops, "Libertarian" then you know you are FREE to disagree and not listen/tune out at any time.