Newell is a class organization and that is what leads to the quality of their products. Thank you Brian for sharing and Andrew for giving an inside look at the leadership team and how these quality coaches are produced.
Love the video Andrew. We need to get you out to the Renegade RV Classic/XL/Ikon line. I have a new 22 45CMR coming in April, I visited the factory during that construction phase they build a tough coach as well. I know the Semi nose isn’t for everyone but for the 500k a Classic costs it’s one hell of a MH.
@@davefroman4700 a 55,000 pound coach with a 25,000 pound trailer weighs 80,000 pounds. Same as a semi. you simply choose how nice you want your living quarters to be. i bet a 45 foot renegade weighs the same as a 45 foot newell..
Big issue between Cascadia tractor (as nice as it is) used for the Renegade and the Prevost/Newell product is purely in the ride quality (noise, bounce, etc). The interiors are not even in the same zip code either. Different market between the two types of rigs. We weigh in around 54,500 with full tanks, and the ATC stacker is rated at 20,000 lbs on the hitch. We assume 15,000 usually. So, depending on conditions just shy of 75,000 lbs. Prevost Marathon H3-45
OMG just went to school! What a articulate knowledgeable presentation that was. Watched all your videos. Don't think I've learned so much in such a short period of time. Your lady friend is amazing and beautiful. Don't screw it up!!!!!
As a fellow Brian, major props to Brian in the video. He was well versed and articulated his passion and the companies in this video. If you have the money then Newell is the coach for your needs big or small, espicially with the towing. One day i would like to own a newell!
Andrew I have to say I have been watching you from the beginning of your channel starting. Not only have your video content and editing come a long way, your content is so interesting from the different types of builds on these beautiful homes on wheels. Congratulations job very well done!!!
I have been wrestling with a decision to buy a Newell coach. I can only afford an older version but can not see any coach having the build quality that Newell has. You have me sold. Thanks for the in-depth video of how these coaches are made.
Another great video Andrew. Appreciate the knowledge from Brian. Looking forward to your future content with your Newell. Really happy for you. Thanks again for the content. Been following you from your detailing days.
Wow, that matte + gloss+ carbonfiber is awesome! I agree, it screams "work hard and play hard". Yes, "The Newell" (for you RV history buffs) is the only Class A Body with a 25K hitch(new models). I've never carried more than 17K and that was HEAVY! I recommend both Shocker Hitch and GenY Boss TorqueFlex products depending on trailer size/weight and if its spread axle or not.
Quote: "I recommend both Shocker Hitch and GenY Boss TorqueFlex products depending on trailer size/weight and if its spread axle or not." My ATC Stacker is "spread axle (triple)". So, I was looking at Shocker Hitch. Do you like the GenY Boss better for the spread axle? Thanks.
Wow, I learned a lot from this video. Brian really knows his stuff. It's nice to hear facts and figures rather than marketing hype. Newell is clearly the market leader and now we know why.
This is great video explaining the quality of the structure of an RV. That is an extremely important quality needed for these type of vehicles since they are carrying so much weight. These vehicles have to improve the towing capacity as if it is a semi truck, especially if towing a stacker trailer. Stacker trailers are carrying more and are bigger.
Stacker Trailers: Even with a matching paint job it is obvious that the trailer doesn't match the coach. Different size tires. Different height. Different width. Has Newell ever considered making trailers to go with their coaches? I would love to see a trailer that had matching wheels and tires. Air ride that floated with the coach. With all their in house abilities making a matching trailer should be simple for them to implement. As always Andrew, your videos are great! Thanks for all your efforts.
I am so glad you made this video towing is the "see no evil, say no evil" of this industry. I was thinking about my rigs overall weight today why driving a ten hour day to the Keys, I am going to stop near Miami tomorrow at a Cat scale & weigh the overall on my XLII and my 22' stacker, I have never had this rig loaded down more than now and I can definitely feel the weight on this trip. I just installed a Shocker HD air bag receiver hitch and it has made a huge difference in the overall tongue weight feel I also installed new 365's last week as well as new trailer tires. I just want to make sure I am not near capacity, I come from a CDL driving background and I still catch myself pulling into scale houses w/ this combo, I would like someone to have content on the overall bus safety aspect/crash test data etc... At some point I could really see myself getting away from the coach plan and getting into a ShowHauler or Renegade w/ a OTR Tractor just for the safety aspect but hauling capacity ...keep up the great content, congratulations on the Newell
@@SomeTechGuy666 Michelin 365's on the steer and tags, 315's on the drive , electric brakes & Michelin 235/85R16's on the trailer, Coach: Front 17590 18000 total axle / Drive 21680 22500 total axle/ tag 13600 14000 total axle / overall 52870 54500 total coach. Trailer: empty 6500 (if I recall from when I purchased it) the Jeep Wrangler inside weighs around 4400 so figure w/ all the other stuff I have in the trailer is around 2000lbs so overall trailer weighed at 12975 (I think the GVWR is 14K on the ATC) This was w/ the Jeep fueled, the coach completely fueled, 50% fresh water, empty grays. It was quite eye opening looking at that Cat weight receipt, I am right at the limits...this was with full bays, luggage, provisions, no wife or kids though. They normally do not travel w/ me as they are flying in Monday so Im not accounting for there weight. I hope I am right on not being overweight
@@notboeingnotgoing5483 Thanks for sharing. You don't have much payload left ! Why is your coach so heavy ? I would have though mid 40K lbs. 55K + 11K + 2K = 68,000 pounds. That's pretty heavy.
@ it’s not a problem with not being able to haul it, it does that without any issues, but you can definitely feel the weight, especially when it’s loaded . As far as the overall length, the main issue is just with knowing your route, and definitely having a plan to where you can turn around. The length doesn’t really bother me on the highway because I’m used to coming from the semi truck world, but any of these coaches with a stacker behind them are a beast.
Newell is top notch and really love their coaches. I just wish they would offer different sizes, the wife and I would be more than happy to have a 35 foot with Newell quality. Be plenty enough for two.
@@RVingwithAndrewSteele After looking more intensely at their website they do indeed have a 40', little hard to find, but there. I was hoping Newell could make something to compete with the Newmar New Aire. That would be cool.
Maybe Brian will sponsor one of those Big red 605hp engines for your Renno Newell Project, and since your coach was pre emissions, you don’t have to run the DPF and. Def 😋
Howdy, Thanks for sharing. How does the towing capacity/capability of MCI and Prevost bus conversions compare to Newell ? On another note, as far as towing a bus conversion on a lowboy, would a single axle semi be sufficient or would a tandemn be preferable? I honestly dont know the maximum legal capacity of a a single axle semi. Many thanks in advance. Much appreciated 👍👍
This is why Newell take a notch over any other motorhome out there... They're willing to take the black and white approach. No gray area whatsoever.. You can say, the "other one" can do too but heck, no! You can sense the transparency by how this folks address all this stuff with a camera on..Open to the buying public. From the ground up..Pre-production.. Up to the delivery date. P.S. We just can't compare a Class C motorhome to a Class A because of their different structure and purpose. (Super) class C is an emerging segment. True, Renegade / Showhauler is head and shoulder above on their competition but this kind of class A's...with this kind of pedigree, prestige, luxury and refinement that take this coach to a whole new league of its own.
With Newell’s chassis design i’m surprised they haven’t attempted to do a full driver’s side wall slide to compete with production builders like Newmar.
That extra capacity hitch is nice and all, but unaware racers who want to pull their race cars in stacker trailers in anything longer than a overall 20 foot length (remember, American trailer mfr's don't add the hitch length in their sales brochures) which make a 20' stacker trailer measure up to 25' in length which combined with a Newell's 45' length, puts it over the legal combined limit of RV / trailer of 65' for a majority of states and the racer may find out the hard way at a DOT pop-up interstate checkpoint and do not have an over-length permit ($500-$600 EACH STATE annually)...
@@imike0367 Everybody is the same. The cop pulls you over, takes out his 100' measuring take and says "here, hold this even with your front bumper..." 65', you're safe. he may give you up to 66' to compensate for any bow in that length of tape, but if you're over, you risk the tow fee and storage as well as the fine for being over length. The storage fee will be for the time you took to finally get mailed the over legnth permit.
@@imike0367 Yes. Unlike you, I have a 45' Renegade towing a 8.5x16' offroad trailer that was stopped on AZ95 headed for BLM La Posa LTVA in 2020 and got pulled over by a Arizona DPS trooper with a 100' round reel type measuring tape. I was slightly over because my hitch added to the 16' box made my combined length 65 feet four and a half inches. He gave me the benefit of a doubt because "you were a good sport" in holding the end of his measuring tape.
Different set up though.....different audience. Prevost and Newell owners typically own them because they want the luxury coach feel. Not for the tow capacity.
Brian is a "product guy" 100%, and I really appreciate that.
This guy has such a wealth of knowledge and passion
Newell is a class organization and that is what leads to the quality of their products. Thank you Brian for sharing and Andrew for giving an inside look at the leadership team and how these quality coaches are produced.
I NEED MORE VIDEOS FEATURING YOU TWO!
Love the video Andrew. We need to get you out to the Renegade RV Classic/XL/Ikon line. I have a new 22 45CMR coming in April, I visited the factory during that construction phase they build a tough coach as well. I know the Semi nose isn’t for everyone but for the 500k a Classic costs it’s one hell of a MH.
Yeah you are right. When it comes to towing capacity none of these coaches can hold a candle to a Renegade or ShowHauler.
@@davefroman4700 a 55,000 pound coach with a 25,000 pound trailer weighs 80,000 pounds. Same as a semi. you simply choose how nice you want your living quarters to be. i bet a 45 foot renegade weighs the same as a 45 foot newell..
Big issue between Cascadia tractor (as nice as it is) used for the Renegade and the Prevost/Newell product is purely in the ride quality (noise, bounce, etc). The interiors are not even in the same zip code either. Different market between the two types of rigs. We weigh in around 54,500 with full tanks, and the ATC stacker is rated at 20,000 lbs on the hitch. We assume 15,000 usually. So, depending on conditions just shy of 75,000 lbs. Prevost Marathon H3-45
I like that in Brian he stands by his product. What a nice coach Newell’s are.
OMG just went to school! What a articulate knowledgeable presentation that was. Watched all your videos. Don't think I've learned so much in such a short period of time. Your lady friend is amazing and beautiful. Don't screw it up!!!!!
As a fellow Brian, major props to Brian in the video. He was well versed and articulated his passion and the companies in this video. If you have the money then Newell is the coach for your needs big or small, espicially with the towing. One day i would like to own a newell!
Andrew I have to say I have been watching you from the beginning of your channel starting. Not only have your video content and editing come a long way, your content is so interesting from the different types of builds on these beautiful homes on wheels. Congratulations job very well done!!!
I have been wrestling with a decision to buy a Newell coach. I can only afford an older version but can not see any coach having the build quality that Newell has. You have me sold. Thanks for the in-depth video of how these coaches are made.
Older model Prevost is superior to late model Newell. Newell's have come a long way in the past 5 to 10 years.
That was an awesome video! It’s nice to see the other side of things. Can’t wait to see the full video on your new coach.
Always love your interviews with Brian. Thank you both. Happy trails!
Love this video! Thank you abs Brian fir showing the Newells chassis. It’s fascinating to see how it’s all done abs made. Great job!
Newell just knows their shit! It's the quickest way to explain it.
Good evening from VA, Andrew. Hope the week has been good to you.
OKH THANK YOU
Another great video Andrew! Love Brian’s knowledge and history of the RV world! So much more then just a show me vid. As always thank you gents!
Another great video Andrew. Appreciate the knowledge from Brian. Looking forward to your future content with your Newell. Really happy for you. Thanks again for the content. Been following you from your detailing days.
Andrew that was very interesting, very good interview. Newall is head and shoulder better than anything out there.
Except.....Prevost......(here comes the flames.....)
Wow, that matte + gloss+ carbonfiber is awesome! I agree, it screams "work hard and play hard". Yes, "The Newell" (for you RV history buffs) is the only Class A Body with a 25K hitch(new models). I've never carried more than 17K and that was HEAVY! I recommend both Shocker Hitch and GenY Boss TorqueFlex products depending on trailer size/weight and if its spread axle or not.
Quote: "I recommend both Shocker Hitch and GenY Boss TorqueFlex products depending on trailer size/weight and if its spread axle or not." My ATC Stacker is "spread axle (triple)". So, I was looking at Shocker Hitch. Do you like the GenY Boss better for the spread axle? Thanks.
Once again Andrew, excellent video, more in depth of what quality looks like.
One fantastic coach! One day I'll be able to get one! Thanks for sharing the video!
Outstanding Andrew!!!
Wow, I learned a lot from this video. Brian really knows his stuff. It's nice to hear facts and figures rather than marketing hype. Newell is clearly the market leader and now we know why.
THANK YOU , BRIAN AND ANDREW FOR GREAT INFO. !!! I LOVE IT , HAVE A GREAT DAY .....👏👍✌ 🙏💜💜💜🙏
This is great video explaining the quality of the structure of an RV. That is an extremely important quality needed for these type of vehicles since they are carrying so much weight. These vehicles have to improve the towing capacity as if it is a semi truck, especially if towing a stacker trailer. Stacker trailers are carrying more and are bigger.
Talk about b-b-b-b-bad to the bone! Great content Andrew!
Stacker Trailers: Even with a matching paint job it is obvious that the trailer doesn't match the coach. Different size tires. Different height. Different width. Has Newell ever considered making trailers to go with their coaches? I would love to see a trailer that had matching wheels and tires. Air ride that floated with the coach. With all their in house abilities making a matching trailer should be simple for them to implement. As always Andrew, your videos are great! Thanks for all your efforts.
Thanks Andrew, great show!
Ahh maaan...these guys are living the dream. That's some really nice toys.
Very informative video. Great content Andrew
Nice job Andrew!
I am so glad you made this video towing is the "see no evil, say no evil" of this industry. I was thinking about my rigs overall weight today why driving a ten hour day to the Keys, I am going to stop near Miami tomorrow at a Cat scale & weigh the overall on my XLII and my 22' stacker, I have never had this rig loaded down more than now and I can definitely feel the weight on this trip. I just installed a Shocker HD air bag receiver hitch and it has made a huge difference in the overall tongue weight feel I also installed new 365's last week as well as new trailer tires. I just want to make sure I am not near capacity, I come from a CDL driving background and I still catch myself pulling into scale houses w/ this combo, I would like someone to have content on the overall bus safety aspect/crash test data etc... At some point I could really see myself getting away from the coach plan and getting into a ShowHauler or Renegade w/ a OTR Tractor just for the safety aspect but hauling capacity ...keep up the great content, congratulations on the Newell
So what did all the axles weigh ? Air brakes or electric on your stacker ?
365s on the front axle or all around ?
@@SomeTechGuy666 Michelin 365's on the steer and tags, 315's on the drive , electric brakes & Michelin 235/85R16's on the trailer, Coach: Front 17590 18000 total axle / Drive 21680 22500 total axle/ tag 13600 14000 total axle / overall 52870 54500 total coach. Trailer: empty 6500 (if I recall from when I purchased it) the Jeep Wrangler inside weighs around 4400 so figure w/ all the other stuff I have in the trailer is around 2000lbs so overall trailer weighed at 12975 (I think the GVWR is 14K on the ATC) This was w/ the Jeep fueled, the coach completely fueled, 50% fresh water, empty grays. It was quite eye opening looking at that Cat weight receipt, I am right at the limits...this was with full bays, luggage, provisions, no wife or kids though. They normally do not travel w/ me as they are flying in Monday so Im not accounting for there weight. I hope I am right on not being overweight
@@notboeingnotgoing5483 Thanks for sharing.
You don't have much payload left !
Why is your coach so heavy ? I would have though mid 40K lbs.
55K + 11K + 2K = 68,000 pounds. That's pretty heavy.
Your XLII should be able to haul that 22' no problem. Any issues with the 65' thing?
@ it’s not a problem with not being able to haul it, it does that without any issues, but you can definitely feel the weight, especially when it’s loaded . As far as the overall length, the main issue is just with knowing your route, and definitely having a plan to where you can turn around. The length doesn’t really bother me on the highway because I’m used to coming from the semi truck world, but any of these coaches with a stacker behind them are a beast.
That series 60 you have in your new coach is a brute of an engine.
Best in class. DD60
Parabéns pelos seus conteúdos 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Newell is top notch and really love their coaches. I just wish they would offer different sizes, the wife and I would be more than happy to have a 35 foot with Newell quality. Be plenty enough for two.
They do, you can get a 40' but I don't think it's much less expensive.
@@RVingwithAndrewSteele After looking more intensely at their website they do indeed have a 40', little hard to find, but there. I was hoping Newell could make something to compete with the Newmar New Aire. That would be cool.
Maybe Brian will sponsor one of those Big red 605hp engines for your Renno Newell Project, and since your coach was pre emissions, you don’t have to run the DPF and. Def 😋
Brian know his story, and I'm happy Andrew and Brian never use the line "I've never seen Before"
Beautiful Coach, needs American Racing wheels, the milled AR wheel windows looks like jewelry not painted steel.
Great video. I’m curious… Anyone know the finished interior height of a 2022 Newell vs a 2022 Liberty?
American built and ingenuity, bullet proof.🇺🇸💪💪👍
Awesome 👍
Howdy,
Thanks for sharing. How does the towing capacity/capability of MCI and Prevost bus conversions compare to Newell ?
On another note, as far as towing a bus conversion on a lowboy, would a single axle semi be sufficient or would a tandemn be preferable?
I honestly dont know the maximum legal capacity of a a single axle semi.
Many thanks in advance.
Much appreciated 👍👍
Hi Andrew do you know when they are bringing out the 2023 newell model coach can't wait to see if they have added anything new to it. Cheers Andrew.
This is why Newell take a notch over any other motorhome out there... They're willing to take the black and white approach. No gray area whatsoever.. You can say, the "other one" can do too but heck, no! You can sense the transparency by how this folks address all this stuff with a camera on..Open to the buying public. From the ground up..Pre-production.. Up to the delivery date.
P.S. We just can't compare a Class C motorhome to a Class A because of their different structure and purpose. (Super) class C is an emerging segment. True, Renegade / Showhauler is head and shoulder above on their competition but this kind of class A's...with this kind of pedigree, prestige, luxury and refinement that take this coach to a whole new league of its own.
Liberty, Marathon, Millenium, Featherlite all allow the same. Even Prevost will do the same.
Before I watch the video, I'm guessing it's the newell with the cummins desel.
With Newell’s chassis design i’m surprised they haven’t attempted to do a full driver’s side wall slide to compete with production builders like Newmar.
Trailer's and coach's ala al barsha 3
Andrew rocks!
That extra capacity hitch is nice and all, but unaware racers who want to pull their race cars in stacker trailers in anything longer than a overall 20 foot length (remember, American trailer mfr's don't add the hitch length in their sales brochures) which make a 20' stacker trailer measure up to 25' in length which combined with a Newell's 45' length, puts it over the legal combined limit of RV / trailer of 65' for a majority of states and the racer may find out the hard way at a DOT pop-up interstate checkpoint and do not have an over-length permit ($500-$600 EACH STATE annually)...
And for private owners......non-racers??
@@imike0367 Everybody is the same. The cop pulls you over, takes out his 100' measuring take and says "here, hold this even with your front bumper..."
65', you're safe. he may give you up to 66' to compensate for any bow in that length of tape, but if you're over, you risk the tow fee and storage as well as the fine for being over length.
The storage fee will be for the time you took to finally get mailed the over legnth permit.
@@dustup2249 And you have seen this happen?
@@imike0367 Yes. Unlike you, I have a 45' Renegade towing a 8.5x16' offroad trailer that was stopped on AZ95 headed for BLM La Posa LTVA in 2020 and got pulled over by a Arizona DPS trooper with a 100' round reel type measuring tape. I was slightly over because my hitch added to the 16' box made my combined length 65 feet four and a half inches. He gave me the benefit of a doubt because "you were a good sport" in holding the end of his measuring tape.
@@dustup2249 My Prevost is 45'
Agora pintado lindo
EVERY Newmar Class A diesel pusher can tow THAT !!
😂😂😂 definitely not the case
@@RVingwithAndrewSteele Yeah, but would they want to tow that and try it?
They ever make a dual entry coach? Front and mid entry
Ive seen am older Newell Coach with two doors but very rare
Needs to be diesel electric like a locomotive
That guy may even be a team owner now…
This video is so sinister!
There are Super C's that can pull 40,000 pounds.
A locomotive can pull 27 million pounds.
@@SavageCode REALLY?
Different set up though.....different audience. Prevost and Newell owners typically own them because they want the luxury coach feel. Not for the tow capacity.
@@imike0367 I want it ALL 😀