Thank you for making these detailed and realistic videos. It really helps the viewer understand what to expect, what tools to use, and what is “normal” working time on these machines. I recently partially opened my Nera to reduce the brew pressure and things went well because I had the right tools. However, I learned a few things about the tolerances on the machine in the process. Please keep these technical videos coming.
The Temp gauge on my Appartamento is no longer working. I have a new gauge. Using this video i have taken the cover off - thank you! Does the old gauge screw out? If so, what direction?@@Wholelattelovepage
@@peterford387 Hey there! Sorry just saw your comment so maybe you already figured it out. The gauge is held in place by an internal bracket which can be seen in this video covering the machines internal components: th-cam.com/video/YSdjl0UEaDU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Br3YAnYgy1c1wCLN&t=780 A screw on the back side of the bracket tensions it and holds in place.
So helpful, thank you. Just got a used (and abused) appartamento that is leaking unheated water when the machine is turned on. This will hopefully help me fix the problem
Hi DTZ, When and where did you purchase your Appartamento? Here in the US I've never seen anyhting other than a copper boiler in the machines - and I've been inside a lot of them.
I recently opened up my Rocket Espresso Appartamento due to a leak, and my boiler is not copper as claimed! what is going on Whole Latte Love?! I bought it on your site less than a year ago!
@@GoDriveMX5 Yeah it was disappointing for me in a way. Also, I pulled my mushroom valve to install a flow valve and it was ceramic! I was expecting stainless. I dunno... I'm happy with it though so that's ultimately most important.
Can confirm my Appartamento boiler is not copper either. It looks more stainless coloured, but could be a composite? Rocket must have introduced some cost cutting recently. The internal tubing also isn't copper like in this video -- it looks like stainless
Holy moly, that's seems like a process and a half for people who don't do this for a living. Yikes! The Appartamento Nera is one heck of a looker though.
I just don't see $1,700 worth of parts and workmanship inside that thing. Honestly, the metalwork doesn't whisper high-end and certainly the flimsy brackets that hold the side panels in scream the opposite. Same with the wiring with those cheap white plastic connectors. For this kind of money I would expect proper sheathed cables over zip-tied wires with cheap terminals. Am I being unreasonable here?
@@Wholelattelovepage I agree with everything you just said while maintaining that my original complaint valid. I keep searching channels like yours for a machine teardown evaluation for overall objective build quality and value for the money. Watch a few BOLTR videos from AVE channel to see what I'm talking about. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe casting or machining a good group head is in fact an incredibly difficult thing to do. Perhaps the centuries old technology in boilers is difficult to pull off. PID's these days are pennies...dollars at most. I know the whole is more than the sum of the parts, but I'd like to see a critical evaluation of the parts and materials and how well they're assembled in relation to the sale price.
@Erik Burgerhagen Yep. I love to tinker but I 'm not willing to pay premium prices for subpar products that require tinkering in order to bring them up to the expectations the price demands. I agree with you though, from what I've seen *all* machines are like this and more cash doesn't buy you more quality. I guess enough people pay it anyway, but not me. I wish the review channels would be a bit more critical of this and I wonder why nobody is.
@@maddivann Because I'm not interested in doing that for espresso machines. I'm more of a woodworker and I do include all the bells and whistles in my products at a great price point.
Thank you for making these detailed and realistic videos. It really helps the viewer understand what to expect, what tools to use, and what is “normal” working time on these machines. I recently partially opened my Nera to reduce the brew pressure and things went well because I had the right tools. However, I learned a few things about the tolerances on the machine in the process. Please keep these technical videos coming.
Hey S, you are welcome and more to come like this!
Marc
The Temp gauge on my Appartamento is no longer working. I have a new gauge. Using this video i have taken the cover off - thank you! Does the old gauge screw out? If so, what direction?@@Wholelattelovepage
@@peterford387 Hey there! Sorry just saw your comment so maybe you already figured it out. The gauge is held in place by an internal bracket which can be seen in this video covering the machines internal components: th-cam.com/video/YSdjl0UEaDU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Br3YAnYgy1c1wCLN&t=780
A screw on the back side of the bracket tensions it and holds in place.
Thank you, replaced my pressurestat and this guide was very helpful
You're welcome!
Great video!
it would be great seeing a video with removing the front panel :-)
So helpful, thank you. Just got a used (and abused) appartamento that is leaking unheated water when the machine is turned on. This will hopefully help me fix the problem
You're welcome!
Do you have to empty your reservoir first before removing them?
Hello
how can we change headlight bulb for rocket appartamento?
When I opened up mine my boiler also was not Copper. I'm very confused here.
Hi DTZ, When and where did you purchase your Appartamento? Here in the US I've never seen anyhting other than a copper boiler in the machines - and I've been inside a lot of them.
@@Wholelattelovepage I got it from your website. And about 4-5 weeks ago
@@Wholelattelovepage Mine was purchased from Seattle Coffee Gear about the same time ago as DTZ's
I recently opened up my Rocket Espresso Appartamento due to a leak, and my boiler is not copper as claimed! what is going on Whole Latte Love?! I bought it on your site less than a year ago!
Hi Inq, Rocket did produce some with stainless boilers.
I've got the Appartamento Nera also. BUT my boiler isn't copper...what's up with that?
Hi w, That's odd. I've been inside a ton of Appartamentos and never come across anything other than copper boilers.
Dude same here!!
@@GoDriveMX5 Yeah it was disappointing for me in a way. Also, I pulled my mushroom valve to install a flow valve and it was ceramic! I was expecting stainless. I dunno... I'm happy with it though so that's ultimately most important.
Can confirm my Appartamento boiler is not copper either. It looks more stainless coloured, but could be a composite?
Rocket must have introduced some cost cutting recently. The internal tubing also isn't copper like in this video -- it looks like stainless
It most probably is just corroded copper. Very normal for copper and nothing to worry about. This one opened here is new.
Holy moly, that's seems like a process and a half for people who don't do this for a living. Yikes! The Appartamento Nera is one heck of a looker though.
I just don't see $1,700 worth of parts and workmanship inside that thing. Honestly, the metalwork doesn't whisper high-end and certainly the flimsy brackets that hold the side panels in scream the opposite. Same with the wiring with those cheap white plastic connectors. For this kind of money I would expect proper sheathed cables over zip-tied wires with cheap terminals. Am I being unreasonable here?
Hi Chris, Thanks for the comment. While those brackets appear flimsy they serve the intend purpose. Sheathed cables in this type of machine are rare.
@@Wholelattelovepage I agree with everything you just said while maintaining that my original complaint valid. I keep searching channels like yours for a machine teardown evaluation for overall objective build quality and value for the money. Watch a few BOLTR videos from AVE channel to see what I'm talking about.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe casting or machining a good group head is in fact an incredibly difficult thing to do. Perhaps the centuries old technology in boilers is difficult to pull off. PID's these days are pennies...dollars at most.
I know the whole is more than the sum of the parts, but I'd like to see a critical evaluation of the parts and materials and how well they're assembled in relation to the sale price.
@Erik Burgerhagen Yep. I love to tinker but I 'm not willing to pay premium prices for subpar products that require tinkering in order to bring them up to the expectations the price demands. I agree with you though, from what I've seen *all* machines are like this and more cash doesn't buy you more quality. I guess enough people pay it anyway, but not me. I wish the review channels would be a bit more critical of this and I wonder why nobody is.
why dont you just start your own machine line and include all the bells and whistles at a great price point?
@@maddivann Because I'm not interested in doing that for espresso machines. I'm more of a woodworker and I do include all the bells and whistles in my products at a great price point.