There is a big difference between no coin runs and no ring runs. In Mario, coins are just a bonus. In Sonic, rings are a gameplay mechanic. Also, the Studiopolis Act 1 boss should be the end of the run even if you did get past Chemical Plant. I don't need to explain.
You can actually skip the transition bits on the Studiopolis Act 1 boss if you jump in just the right way. Not sure if you can skip ALL of them though...
Can you beat sonic mania without pressing left OR right? Click here to find out! th-cam.com/video/5WDm5I1fbMc/w-d-xo.html Sadly, no mainline 2d sonic game is probably possible without collecting any rings. I dont plan on trying any other ringless challenges in 2d sonic games, but I have some other ideas planned. Using debug mode is cheating. I cant just use debug mode to skip rings. If I allowed that I might as well go into the level select and just skip to the last level as well.
The thing about this video is that, although it wasn't possible, it was interesting to watch and learn about how you tackled this challenge. I don't watch because I want it to be possible, I watch because I want to see the process it takes to try. I've seen videos that tell me that it's possible but in an uninteresting way. Great video.
I was actually really satisfied with the result.. there’s something about it being impossible that leaves me more satisfied than all the Mario vids where they manage. Sonic rings are just everywhere in most of his games and this was a treat to watch
In the other games, the Debug mode cheat reveals how loops really work. You don't have to run around the loop, you have to pass a threshold near the top of the loop to switch the colision of the loop that you're on. Now im not sure if this works on Mania, or if the ring hitbox is too big to let you reach it, but it's worth looking into if you haven't already.
The hard boiled heavy boss fight in studiopolis makes you automatically pick up 3 rings partway through the fight, it would've been impossible to avoid those too...
"Can you beat Sonic Mania without collecting any Rings?" TH-cam: okay yeah this is diffidently a video on Sonic the Hedgehog 2, lets list that as the game!
I like how everybody want to see a full grown blue hedgehog suffer from being homeless but Ceave can do it to a plumber because.... *JUST LET SONIC SENPAI HAVE HIS RINGS*
I thought you'd be able to make it a lot further, knowing that there are a ton of routes you can take. I think we're all just as surprised that it ended so early. But you put a lot of work into this! That whole elaborate character swap is where I would have definitely drawn the line
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This video actually helped me learn that you can cheese the Egg Robo fight in Green Hill Act 2. That boss fight was ridiculous before I knew that fact.
May I suggest editing soft background music. It feels really silent even when you're giving commentary, and I think it would give the video more character.
I don’t know if this helps, but loops leading down in sonic mania work weird cause at a certain point in the loop it counts as going through the loop letting you go down. If your lucky the point is where the rings aren’t. Also I know this because I try to find tons of special stages and a lot of them are near loops so this happens to me a lot. Great vid by the way
I can beat sonic mania without collecting rings and so can you! Step 1: beat the game and then you unlock debug mode Step 2: go on game options and activate debug mode Step 3: start a new game Step 4: in any level activate the debug menu and fly to the end of the stage If you followed the steps correctly you have beaten sonic mania without collecting a ring I hope this helped 😀
This is honestly so refreshing. I've been thinking for a while that there should be videos like this for the Sonic games considering how many Mario videos there are.
0:18 | Studiopolis trick; once you get over that little ledge, go back down by spindashing, and you SHOULD land on your feet, running. keep on running, and then you'll get knocked into a spring. Then, you'll wanna hold right. There you go. You got flunged into the air.
Does anyone know the source of the model used on the thumbnail? It looks pretty great. Ah, and of course good vid :^ this is like avoiding breathing air
Actually, it might be possible to beat Chemical plant 2. Let me explain. Basically in sonic games (including sonic mania) there is a foreground and action layer. These are usually used around loops. If as tails, you hit the foreground layer trigger, WITHOUT getting the rings while flying, you can just fly around the loop
I really don’t know why sonic is so underpowered in every sonic game, he should have some advantages against the others They really need to do something about everyone always choosing tails.
Sonic's insta-shield and elemental shields from S3&K are overpowered, and in that game you also get super forms in the first half of the game with Sonic, which you can't achieve with Tails.
You could use *DEBUG MODE* and skip the loop... heck, you could summon the goal post at the beginning of each stage and skip the stage. Sure it’s cheating but *it technically is possible to beat Sonic Mania without collecting rings.*
Without watching the video, i can tell you right now, it's impossible. I doubt you can get pass Chemical Plant. In Mario games, coins are avoidable cause they are there for points and extra lives in Sonic they double as your life bar so i think they're placed in some stages to be basically unavoidable... unless you use debug mode to skip specific parts.
When you asked "is it possible to complete without collecting any rings?" I immediately thought "no" because you're forced to collect 3 of them as you go to the second phase of the Hydrocity Act 2 boss (the washing machine)... although I've seen at least one person who somehow forced himself to the right of the tube and miss them (and get a game over as a result a minute later!) so maybe it's possible.
ACTUALLY: The main roadblock in CPZ2 can be gotten past. All you need to do is partner clip Ray up onto the higher floor you're trying to get to, then, without trying to switch to Ray first, go very far to the left where there's the bouncy... liquid... stuff? Whatever. Anyways, go over there. Ray will have followed you over there from the ceiling, and there is a place over there where Tails can be on the ground, and Ray can be on screen, which allows you to switch with him. I'm not sure about the rest of the level beyond that being possible ringless, but I know that you can at least get decently far once you get past that. Edit: Ok guys. I finally found it. I found an ENTIRE ROUTE you can take to beat Chemical Plant 2 without ANY RINGS. I will record myself taking that route and publish that as soon as possible. Once it's published, I'll put the TH-cam link here.
It's normal that when you restart, they give you back the characters you had at the beginning. If they didn't do that, it could be abused to get a full party of 5 by collecting a character and restarting over and over again. Subbed BTW.
Hey BillehBawb, if you use tails in chemical plant act 1, you can get past the three rings on the higher path. keep moving slightly right until you can fly upwards and over it. Also, when you get to a loop you can fly as tails and touch in between the top ring and the closest on the left to continue. This is because it thinks you touched the advanced layer, so you can continue.
10:56 I was watching this video on my switch and I thought youtube crashed for a moment...
This comment is underrated
Lol
Game Boy not really
Me too
You can watch yt on switch?!?!?! No way!!!!!
There is a big difference between no coin runs and no ring runs.
In Mario, coins are just a bonus.
In Sonic, rings are a gameplay mechanic.
Also, the Studiopolis Act 1 boss should be the end of the run even if you did get past Chemical Plant. I don't need to explain.
In mario powerups are your health bar but in sonic, rings are your health bar
@@johnpett1955 And shelds, as well.
You have to get extremely lucky to beat the studiopolis boss
You can actually skip the transition bits on the Studiopolis Act 1 boss if you jump in just the right way. Not sure if you can skip ALL of them though...
@@drippymissouri i beated him(i also completed sonic mania)
Yeah but can you do it without collecting any coins
HMMMmmmmmMmMMMmmMMm
I talk about why I didnt do that in the video
Nah, that's impossible. At the end, Shaggy forces you to get some coins. He appears because *he knows what you want to do*
yeah i know right it must be impossible
Ebster G. CuOiS aReNt In ThE gAmE fOoL
Can you beat sonic mania without pressing left OR right? Click here to find out!
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Sadly, no mainline 2d sonic game is probably possible without collecting any rings. I dont plan on trying any other ringless challenges in 2d sonic games, but I have some other ideas planned.
Using debug mode is cheating. I cant just use debug mode to skip rings. If I allowed that I might as well go into the level select and just skip to the last level as well.
subscribers are for winners, not for failures
BillehBawb I wonder if getting the rings then losing them in the end could as getting the rings?
@@timymax Its not my fault I set out to do an impossible challenge?
@@lekingyeeter3241 The game wont count them as collected, but for this challenge that just feels like cheating and would be way too easy
@_ Corruption _ Guess I'm gay
He never said you'd have to beat it *legitimately.*
-Debug Mode-
Hackerman
“I’ve hacked into their systems and disabled their algorithms .”
Yeah
Lol Debug Mode Saves Everyone
Ooooooh, savage!
The thing about this video is that, although it wasn't possible, it was interesting to watch and learn about how you tackled this challenge. I don't watch because I want it to be possible, I watch because I want to see the process it takes to try. I've seen videos that tell me that it's possible but in an uninteresting way. Great video.
YOU SPOILED
I AM KINDA MAD NOW
@@Ryrazzz sorry :(
i suggest not reading the comments before the end of the video next time.
Still waiting for “Can you beat Just Dance without dancing?”
Yes. Just shake the joy con
CreeperGirlLove 18 not everyone uses those
CreeperGirlLove 18 I use a wii remote
That Is, Wierd
In one of the Diary of a wimpy kid books, Greg plays wii fit by using the remote
They are onion rings and make Tails fat.
Sonic Mania XL, anyone?!
I REMEMBER XD
Someone make this mod
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@@dariusjrtedford1139 nikkokado avocado mode
I was actually really satisfied with the result.. there’s something about it being impossible that leaves me more satisfied than all the Mario vids where they manage. Sonic rings are just everywhere in most of his games and this was a treat to watch
"I got stopped at Chemical Plant 2?"
Describes my run of Sonic 2 as a child
Describes my run in Hydrocity zone act 2 as a kid.... i hate that wall it gave me nightmares.
I am a kid 😯
Ya it is impossible I get so far dying and dying and I get to the final boss of act 2 and the floor decided to disappear
@Kienan_Gamer117 For me it was also act 2, but there's a part close to the end with moving platforms just above the water. I always got stuck there
Now that Mario challenges are starting to stop the Sonic challenges Will begin
Great video 👍
Thank you!
*stop?*
They aren’t starting to stop, they’re still going strong.
V rd watch lego 555
In the other games, the Debug mode cheat reveals how loops really work. You don't have to run around the loop, you have to pass a threshold near the top of the loop to switch the colision of the loop that you're on. Now im not sure if this works on Mania, or if the ring hitbox is too big to let you reach it, but it's worth looking into if you haven't already.
The hard boiled heavy boss fight in studiopolis makes you automatically pick up 3 rings partway through the fight, it would've been impossible to avoid those too...
Since it is technically like a cutscene, should we not count them or can you actually jump over them?
This is a great video, love how it felt personal. I could feel the struggle of all the damn rings! Well done
"Can you beat Sonic Mania without collecting any Rings?"
TH-cam: okay yeah this is diffidently a video on Sonic the Hedgehog 2, lets list that as the game!
I like how everybody want to see a full grown blue hedgehog suffer from being homeless but Ceave can do it to a plumber because.... *JUST LET SONIC SENPAI HAVE HIS RINGS*
DJayden Mario’s coins are worthless due to hyperinflation. Rings are still stable.
@@sonicmastersword8080 And with all the coins you can get into a SMM2 stage, it's even more worthless.
Video is underrated
Thank you!
I thought you'd be able to make it a lot further, knowing that there are a ton of routes you can take. I think we're all just as surprised that it ended so early. But you put a lot of work into this! That whole elaborate character swap is where I would have definitely drawn the line
This is so sad, Siri play Never gonna give you up
This is so sad, alexa play nothing
@Daniel von Strangle this is so sad alexa play sonic render
This is so sad, Ok Google play all-star.
This is so sad, VLC play Live & Learn by Crush 40. Play Live & Learn by Crush 40. PLAY LIVE AAANNNNDDDDD LEEEAARRRRRNNN BYYY CRUUUSSSHHH 40! VEEE ELLLL SEEEE, PLAY LIVE AAANNNNDDDDD LEEEAARRRRRNNN BYYY CRUUUSSSHHH 40! Dafuq is dishit ain't workin?! Discord Rhythmbot, !PLAY LIVE AAANNNNDDDDD LEEEAARRRRRNNN BYYY CRUUUSSSHHH 40! Grrrr, I'll do it myself.
Edit: Discord Rhythmbot, !PLAY LIVE AAANNNNDDDDD LEEEAARRRRRNNN BYYY CRUUUSSSHHH 40 ON TH-cam! fuk, still not workin... hey sonny! Would you come here and play Live & Learn on TH-cam for me!
SURE!
[Gets it workin']
Thx boy!
Edit2: soml, and I'm the sonny, lol.
This is so sad, alexa play sonic mania
2:04 *GOD I COULD’VE BEATEN THIS FASTER IF I KNEW THAT*
Aww, Mayrosmm was not mentioned. Oh well, this is still a good video!
Thank you!
@@BillehBawb What other challanges are you thinking of ?
This video actually helped me learn that you can cheese the Egg Robo fight in Green Hill Act 2. That boss fight was ridiculous before I knew that fact.
Actually you can beat it without getting rings, it’s the magic mode called *_DEBUG MODE_*
It's no fun that way
@@NickZGames but its possible
@?? In theory, yes. But it's cheating.
No that’s cheating
It may be cheating but is funny
May I suggest editing soft background music. It feels really silent even when you're giving commentary, and I think it would give the video more character.
there is some, it's just uh... TOO soft.
I don’t know if this helps, but loops leading down in sonic mania work weird cause at a certain point in the loop it counts as going through the loop letting you go down. If your lucky the point is where the rings aren’t. Also I know this because I try to find tons of special stages and a lot of them are near loops so this happens to me a lot. Great vid by the way
I feel like the [THUMBNAIL] would be a [MEME]
Laughed a bit harder than I thought I would at the "or can you" part. Nice timing.
Vsause “or can you” famous words
Poor mayro, always left out☹
Fuck mayro
@@DamageMaximo your mother
@@thermometerman1824 It's his choice.
@@aiwjdaiwkdwadkodawdawdyour uncle
@@thermometerman1824 ? What's wrong with my uncle
2:40
Creator: DODGE THESE CRAB PEOPLE I DONT KNOW THEIR NAMES
He said "Crab people" referring to the two badniks
Dang it’s been a while since I’ve seen this lmao
Finally I've been wondering about this
Sonic mania is epic and--
_Smacks_
*_THE CRISP AND SMOOTHE 16 BIT GRAPHICS_*
🤨 no rings?
Yes. Obviously
The encore mode is the edited version of mania mode
I can beat sonic mania without collecting rings and so can you!
Step 1: beat the game and then you unlock debug mode
Step 2: go on game options and activate debug mode
Step 3: start a new game
Step 4: in any level activate the debug menu and fly to the end of the stage
If you followed the steps correctly you have beaten sonic mania without collecting a ring
I hope this helped 😀
Fasttogaming I like people like you
Step 1 watch a video to get debug early step 2 beat the game with debug mode with out rings
WOW HE ACTUALLY DID IT! I CANT BELIEVE IT!
Tell ppl he did it so that ppl that didnt watch get false hope >:)
It could be way easier than how you did it, you could just get all the chaos emeralds by jumping into the big...oh...
Doesn't increase the ring counter, so technically that isn't illegal... but how are you going to go Super, huh?
It gives you an automatic 50 rings if you have all the chaos emeralds
@@lukebytes5366 no it doesnt
They don’t count.
Once you jump into the big ring sonic starts the special stage with 30rings (I think)
This is honestly so refreshing. I've been thinking for a while that there should be videos like this for the Sonic games considering how many Mario videos there are.
Thank you, I was thinking the same thing! You should check out my latest video
Imagine fighting the Studiopolis Zone Act 2 boss without collecting rings...
Oh helllll no
easy, try against the boss lava reef act 2 you ll get anger
Or against the final boss without collecting any ring
Young BVR can't hurt you, he isn't real. Young BVR:
My bet is he’s gonna do “What is the minimum amount of points you need to beat Sonic Mania?”
(Edited)
0:18 | Studiopolis trick; once you get over that little ledge, go back down by spindashing, and you SHOULD land on your feet, running. keep on running, and then you'll get knocked into a spring. Then, you'll wanna hold right. There you go. You got flunged into the air.
I main part is what is hard is that you can’t take damage for the whole game
Idk what he’s talking about lol
Billehbawb: Im afraid, that it cannot be done. YOU CANNOT beat sonic mania without collecting any rings.
Vsauce: Oh hell no.
I love this game especially the final boss it’s so well designed and awesome
P.s.: Tails isn’t good at dodging stuff (play him on final boss)
Appreciate the hard work you put into this. Very entertaining. Even though I predicted the end result, it was still enjoyable to watch.
Does anyone know the source of the model used on the thumbnail? It looks pretty great.
Ah, and of course good vid :^ this is like avoiding breathing air
BillehBawb: decides to skip stages the hardest way debug mode: Am I a joke to you.
Well.. Rings are kinda your HP in sonic mania. Its going to be hard to survive!
Fr?
You know for the life monitors you can just spin dash next to it and let go when you see tails, you don’t have to jump
I always had that idea but it's nice to see it happen
Ad: Sip your sunshine!
Video: Or can you?
Who is here because this video looks like a ceave video xD
I wish it were, honestly
Me: Can I Not Touch Any Rings Please?
Game: Well Yes But Actually No.
4:02
23 rings too many..
It's to demonstrate
Not the actual playthrough
Actually, it might be possible to beat Chemical plant 2. Let me explain. Basically in sonic games (including sonic mania) there is a foreground and action layer. These are usually used around loops. If as tails, you hit the foreground layer trigger, WITHOUT getting the rings while flying, you can just fly around the loop
It's 999. The maximum count for rings is 999.
How you may ask? Use Debug Mode, and spam giant rings.
he said minimum not maximum
@@rjbraca Oh. Probably around 130.
dude get yo ears checked bruh, he said MINImum
@@zanelo9891 Dude he doesn't even know what he's or you are explaining or even if you try to explain it won't work
I really don’t know why sonic is so underpowered in every sonic game, he should have some advantages against the others
They really need to do something about everyone always choosing tails.
Sonic's insta-shield and elemental shields from S3&K are overpowered, and in that game you also get super forms in the first half of the game with Sonic, which you can't achieve with Tails.
Do Sonic 1 Omochao Challenge
I DARE YOU TO DO PERFECT
I really really respect the fact the you didn't like, claim the idea to be your own or anything like that you did draw attention to your inspiration
You could use *DEBUG MODE* and skip the loop... heck, you could summon the goal post at the beginning of each stage and skip the stage. Sure it’s cheating but *it technically is possible to beat Sonic Mania without collecting rings.*
@Non-Ugandan Knuckles
You know debug mode is not a mod, it’s a part the actual game right?
omg we are saying a fking legitimate way
Matpat: when tails flies he would have no ariel control
BillehBawb: Tails has the most ariel control
Dude, my Nintendo ID is Billy Bob! How random is that?
I always thought it was no, mainly because of green hill zone.
You know, near the end of the level.
But at least you got past me.
Who else is watching his old videos because he never uploads🙋♂️🙋♀️
Now do "can you beat Sonic Mania with collecting all ring"
theres only 1 ring?
Me: *Looking Video's Name*
WHAT?! Everyone Knows This İs İmpossible!
Great video man, your mic volume scared me at some points though, keep up the great vids
4:44 is that what you actually look like
No it's not them
@@St4rG4cha Vsauce
VSAUCE!
‘You Can Not Beat Sonic Mania Without Collecting Any Rings...’
*got a ad*
Me: ...
Without watching the video, i can tell you right now, it's impossible. I doubt you can get pass Chemical Plant.
In Mario games, coins are avoidable cause they are there for points and extra lives in Sonic they double as your life bar so i think they're placed in some stages to be basically unavoidable... unless you use debug mode to skip specific parts.
This challenge I wanted to do a long time ago. Thank you for doing it
0:30
Ya but what if it goes *BELOW* zero?
...negative rings?
When you asked "is it possible to complete without collecting any rings?" I immediately thought "no" because you're forced to collect 3 of them as you go to the second phase of the Hydrocity Act 2 boss (the washing machine)... although I've seen at least one person who somehow forced himself to the right of the tube and miss them (and get a game over as a result a minute later!) so maybe it's possible.
how about how long does it take to finish sonic mania when collecting EVERY ring
That’s impossible tho, quite a few levels have paths that you can’t get to once you reach a certain point
Non-Ugandan Knuckles fair enough, but I think the original commenter meant naturally.
Billeh getting over Ray's section with no rings is easier than you think
Feliz Natal
gracias
Billeh Bawb:*cannot be chemical plant 2*
Me knowing how to get debug mode: not quite but there is a code
11:15 boo get off the stage
BillehBawb: Can you beat sonic mania without collecting any Ring?
Sonic: why?
BillehBawb: uhhhhh...
BillehBawb: i don't know
Sonic. 🤦♂️
“Can You Complete Sonic The Hedgehog Without Running”
LilGabbo uhhh dude already done by Nathaniel bandy
Tyler Plays who?
@@lilgabbo2587 Nathaniel bandy
LilGabbo, ARE YOU FREAKING DUMB!?
Who remembers when the Death Egg Robot was an actually intimidating final boss and not just
“Run and hit him but if you run too long you die”
How to avoid having any rings.
Just get damaged.
ACTUALLY: The main roadblock in CPZ2 can be gotten past. All you need to do is partner clip Ray up onto the higher floor you're trying to get to, then, without trying to switch to Ray first, go very far to the left where there's the bouncy... liquid... stuff? Whatever. Anyways, go over there. Ray will have followed you over there from the ceiling, and there is a place over there where Tails can be on the ground, and Ray can be on screen, which allows you to switch with him.
I'm not sure about the rest of the level beyond that being possible ringless, but I know that you can at least get decently far once you get past that.
Edit: Ok guys. I finally found it. I found an ENTIRE ROUTE you can take to beat Chemical Plant 2 without ANY RINGS. I will record myself taking that route and publish that as soon as possible. Once it's published, I'll put the TH-cam link here.
Thanks for not doing a minimum ring run, I usually turn the video off after seeing if it is possible or impossible to dodge every ring/coin
doesn't matter if the answer wasn't satisfying. you answered the question after all
It's normal that when you restart, they give you back the characters you had at the beginning. If they didn't do that, it could be abused to get a full party of 5 by collecting a character and restarting over and over again.
Subbed BTW.
Until I saw that map I never knew how big Chemical Plant really was
You could hold Ray in place with a spin-dash, go to the closest platform, and switch. That's just my theory, though.
This "Can you beat..." videos are apparently a new trend for small channels.
Nice to see a new edition to the myth buster gaming club
Don’t worry. I’ll complete this this task for you. Also I’m your biggest fan.
It is possible!
Use debug mode
F to pay respects
This is a pretty good video!
Hey BillehBawb, if you use tails in chemical plant act 1, you can get past the three rings on the higher path. keep moving slightly right until you can fly upwards and over it. Also, when you get to a loop you can fly as tails and touch in between the top ring and the closest on the left to continue. This is because it thinks you touched the advanced layer, so you can continue.
Camping is a legitimate strategy
That Vsauce reference made me the happiest person alive.
Yes you can. Use Debug Mode.
Billehbawb sounds younger here lok
its fine man, dont stress about it.
it would probably take years to do a min ring route, its really not worth it.