To everyone wondering why they are doing this, it’s European law. The Valletta Treaty or as archaeologists call it; The Malta Convention from 1992 is a legally binding treaty gratified by all European member states. The basis for the treaty is that archaeology “is a source of European collective memory and as an instrument for historical and scientific study”. It also states that archaeology is at its safest in the location it was deposited in, because it is most stable. On the other hand, as soon as something as small as six post holes are threatened, archaeological research is mandatory by law. Not doing this research will cost you a crazy amount of money. This also means that there is no real treasure hunting in Europe “Indiana Jones style” yelling that it belongs in a museum. The one condition is that it has to be in danger. Rare cases in which non threatened archaeology happened is for example the Richard III dig backed with years of research and public funds. This allows for schooled archaeologists doing the research and making all the results accessible to the public.
John Doe's skull was sawed open. Archeologists : Oh! Beautiful 🤤 John Doe's skull was stuffed with leaves and plants. Archaeologists : That's Beautiful 🥰
At some point he worried about his future like us, at some point he got in trouble as a kid and in the end people were emotional enough to surround him with flowers. When digging up skeletons I can't just think "oh beautiful". It's always how they were real people with the same basic experiences.
@@austin2842so if someone is cutting a piece of wood and a narrator says it's a piece of metal, you're OK with that for the simple fact that somewhere in the video a piece of metal was shown? No wonder society is rtrded
@jay7T6 I don't know why you're getting bent out of shape over a video narration. Also, if you're going to question my intelligence, at least spell the word correctly.
People in themselves are not what is evil. It is the evil SPIRIT that has possessed that human that causes that person to do wicked things. The evil SPIRIT cannot be contained in anything. It is spirit and comes and goes at will. The only thing in that coffin is dead mans bones.
Actually, that was a power shear. A nibbler has a shaft with a notch in it that moves up and down rapidly, taking small bites out of the sheet material, leaving small pieces of metal as waste and a rougher edge. The shear has a scissor like jaw with a heavy blade that produces a constant coil of scrap from its kerf, leaving a smoother edge with no tiny pieces.
Long before Christianity the site was one of human sacrifice. There is still a black alter down there somewhere. The "Boatmen" taught the frankish people many things.
When the hunchback got too old, he couldn't ring the bell by headbutting it so they realized that his face doesn't ring a bell, so they cut it out of the skull.
Absolutely criminal to destroy an artefact like that. It's a skeleton inside, what did they expect to see, an alien? Maybe next week they can take a cold chisel to the Antikythera mechanism.
Maybe they were vampires, that is why the second sarcaphagus the women inside didn't have a brain. I think the plants were protection , like eucalyptus. They were silled in a very different way so they would not escape. You brought them back to life .
To all the people being outraged if you find a corpse you didn’t know was there underneath a building, even if you are sure it is an ancient corpse it’s needs to be removed and investigated. If you found the remains of someone who had been murdered you wouldn’t be in outrage that the grave had been disturbed.
Exactly how rare is a lead coffin? Why would they do that in the first place ??? it had to be outrageously expensive and difficult to make . So if like the Egyptians that had stone and lead coffins on things, they did not want to be capable of resurrection , that was the motivation for the spiritual authorities to order such a burial- WHAT they were trying to bury could be a better question then the typical WHO. Does the documentary answer those questions? I don’t want to pay to view it if it doesn’t.
Lead coffins are not that that rare in Europe, it’s just that the amount of lead required was really expensive. Even abbots were buried in one (so far for living a pious, pour life). We even have to assume that there were more than we know of, but that the lead was repurposed when grave diggers accidentally found them. It was also common knowledge that lead coffins preserved better, which they could only know from opening them up (and probably not returning them to their grave)
Why was the skull sawed open, why was plant matter in there. I have watched Silence of the Lamb's, and seeing this reminds me of a can of sardines. Was the person prepacked for a meal for some one or thing & they forgot where they burried it. Were the brains to delectable to them, not to save for later. Sick I know, but this theme keeps coming up in history.
Plant roots are surprisingly powerful. They need very little space to grow (into) and even flower roots go deep down. As an archaeologist, it’s the one thing I keep forgetting its impact. Even tree roots are no joke.
If they didn’t know the remains were there even if you are absolutely sure they are an ancient corpse it’s probably best to remove them just to make sure. Plus they’re dead they don’t care.
People back than were on average shorter than we are today, and even if you were rich our food is a lot different than what they had. Also don’t forget that plenty of people didn’t live past the age of 50
If you are buried inside a church, you either were part of said church or you simply could afford it. In dutch there’s even an expression referencing this practice “stinking rich”, nice of you to be able to afford a burial site inside the church, your decaying body smells just as bad as anyone else’s and it’s right there for everyone to smell during service. If anyone considered you to be anything but a faithful Christian, you wouldn’t even be buried near it. They instead would put you outside of church grounds, on your stomach and/or facing west so that you can’t see Christ returning on judgement day. That was about the biggest insult you could get and you weren’t even alive to witness it.
It was common practice for nobility and people of fame or wealth (who donated to the church during lifetime huge sums) and high ranking clergy men to be put to rest under church floors or into crypts underneath. Therefore they preserved the bodies in lead coffins. Nobody wants rotting flesh under their feet. It has absolutely nothing to do with vampires or other unholy or dangerous things.
One of the things that has always creeped me out about Catholicism. Veneration of the dead is a sin yet here we are with dead bodies and body parts under the alter under the floors of Cathedral and the Mass can't be executed with out it. Leans more toward pagan occultism than Christianity if you ask me. I suppose if I were the Devil and I wanted to drag people away from God I'd do exactly what Catholicism is doing.
So true! Christians are buried in coffins because the idea was that your body needed to be complete when Christ returns on judgement day or you wouldn’t be able to get up. On the other hand, if you see how little effort they put into burying their dead or how grave diggers treated previous deceased, you can only start to wonder if they actually cared. … Like lowering a coffin using the upper leg bones of the previously deceased person instead of ropes is for real a bridge too far
Imamo i mi svoje kosture ispod kuhinje, ima i pokojna baka Ivane Krejačić iz Anne ulice ispod kuće, groblje male djece ostaci, navodno je to bilo u sklopu kuće časnih sestara u OSIJEKU.
I just googled who Antoine de la Porte and the mysterious sarcophagus. Archaeologists dug up pertinent info on these two high-status decedents. Fascinating revelations!
Is Norte Dam erected on a lay line intersection?? It was said that most place of worships were. First Pagan temples then later Christian churches over them. Interesting though is the discovery of the body.
Back in the day very spiritual people were put under churches as they wanted to be close to God when they resurrected... Sure there heart would brake to know this was what would happen
I can’t believe it’s been 5 years since the fire
time is an illusion
5 1/2 years already.
Since Muslims burned it down?
Incredible, isn’t it? Absolutely incredible.
Since muslims set it on fire?
At what year does it go from grave robbery to discovery?
3 generations at least.
depends on what is done with the grave contents.
Its the same culture digging up its own people. Your knickers must be too small.
There is often a note in the coffin saying "Just gawk. Don't rob." If no note, it's free pillage.
You know how many times I have said that! In jest and all seriousness.
To everyone wondering why they are doing this, it’s European law. The Valletta Treaty or as archaeologists call it; The Malta Convention from 1992 is a legally binding treaty gratified by all European member states.
The basis for the treaty is that archaeology “is a source of European collective memory and as an instrument for historical and scientific study”. It also states that archaeology is at its safest in the location it was deposited in, because it is most stable. On the other hand, as soon as something as small as six post holes are threatened, archaeological research is mandatory by law.
Not doing this research will cost you a crazy amount of money.
This also means that there is no real treasure hunting in Europe “Indiana Jones style” yelling that it belongs in a museum. The one condition is that it has to be in danger. Rare cases in which non threatened archaeology happened is for example the Richard III dig backed with years of research and public funds. This allows for schooled archaeologists doing the research and making all the results accessible to the public.
it is just GRAVE ROBBERS AT WORK and should be stopped
Thank you for this, it's valuable information.
Ahhh! Now I have to find a way to watch the whole show!
It's title is "The Lost Tombs of Notre Dame," Nova/ PBS. Seek and ye shall find.
@@aeiouandwhy Oh, thank you. I was wondering about it.
In Mexico lead sarcophagus were used when people believed the dead were vampires.
Interesting
Or the plague
thank you for mentioning this
Yep... plague
Oooh…. Reminds me of Dusk till Dawn.
John Doe's skull was sawed open. Archeologists : Oh! Beautiful 🤤
John Doe's skull was stuffed with leaves and plants. Archaeologists : That's Beautiful 🥰
Poor choice of words from the woman.
At some point he worried about his future like us, at some point he got in trouble as a kid and in the end people were emotional enough to surround him with flowers. When digging up skeletons I can't just think "oh beautiful". It's always how they were real people with the same basic experiences.
Pharmacology in ancient times was amazing.
Sick
I agree with the Archeologist sentiments 🤷🏼♀️
The English overdub really takes away from the video. Just have the original French with subtitles.
Not of you have to listen to french speakers every day. Some respite is good 😂
That’s not an angle grinder. It’s an electric nibbler.
though it was a scock gobbler
Why would the A.I. realise the difference
Welcome to the wonderful world of alternative facts 2024
Lots more to come
@markedis5902 there's an angle grinder used as well in one part of the video.
@@austin2842so if someone is cutting a piece of wood and a narrator says it's a piece of metal, you're OK with that for the simple fact that somewhere in the video a piece of metal was shown? No wonder society is rtrded
@jay7T6 I don't know why you're getting bent out of shape over a video narration. Also, if you're going to question my intelligence, at least spell the word correctly.
Where can I watch it all?
Exactly what I was thinking. This is fascinating
Google Lost Tombs of Notre Dame. Other videos will come up.
There is a link in the description to watch the full show :)
Nova from PBS
th-cam.com/video/CeEO9nRQjHc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pikAlgWviurXnmoq
They unleashed whatever was deemed terrifying enough to bury under a church in an airtight lead tomb?! 😳😬
They only found them after the fire, though.
People in themselves are not what is evil. It is the evil SPIRIT that has possessed that human that causes that person to do wicked things. The evil SPIRIT cannot be contained in anything. It is spirit and comes and goes at will. The only thing in that coffin is dead mans bones.
Thats not an angle grinder. Those are electricetal shears.
There are no sparks. Nothing is being grinded away.
Lead doesn't spark.
Ground.
They are Electric Sheet Metal Shears. I’ve used them many times, doing HVAC Duct Work.
they did use a grinder on the second coffin.
its a Nibbler, well some countries call it that.
The English overdubs do not improve the video.
I see what you mean
@@andrewyoung2796it’s super annoying
sub > dub
Yes they do. By a lot.
Well I don’t speak French, so it’s helpful
2:40 that is not an angle grinder. That is a power shear. 3:36 is an angle grinder.
I was thinking it looked more like an industrial can opener... 😳 But now I know the proper term, thank you! 😊
Actually, that was a power shear. A nibbler has a shaft with a notch in it that moves up and down rapidly, taking small bites out of the sheet material, leaving small pieces of metal as waste and a rougher edge. The shear has a scissor like jaw with a heavy blade that produces a constant coil of scrap from its kerf, leaving a smoother edge with no tiny pieces.
Ok 🤓🤓
@@buildthings79 TY! Edited! If someone asked me what a power shear is, I'd have guessed a sheep shear. #toolfan
That's what happens when you mix PhDs with power tools.
Have they not heard of 'rest in peace'?
They’re long dead, I’m sure they don’t care
Long before Christianity the site was one of human sacrifice. There is still a black alter down there somewhere. The "Boatmen" taught the frankish people many things.
Where can I read about that?
@mudhut4491 I can't find it anymore. Scrubbed during covid
crack is cheap..
I was expecting it to have hunched back 😢
Same 😂
😂
Finally someone with culture!
Victory Hugo had seen these remains!!
When the hunchback got too old, he couldn't ring the bell by headbutting it so they realized that his face doesn't ring a bell, so they cut it out of the skull.
Absolutely criminal to destroy an artefact like that. It's a skeleton inside, what did they expect to see, an alien? Maybe next week they can take a cold chisel to the Antikythera mechanism.
Boy, are you touchy.
Maybe they were vampires, that is why the second sarcaphagus the women inside didn't have a brain. I think the plants were protection , like eucalyptus. They were silled in a very different way so they would not escape. You brought them back to life .
yeah totally clueless
Correcto ahora conde patula
I watched it - Very good production and can’t wait for follow-up episodes
Before this episode, I have never heard of choir screens before
The 1,000 year old Vampire bout to wake up.
U mean 100 years old bisexual vampire that will hide in egypt
I love Paris France and I love Nova I love PBS and I'm thankful for all three
I echo that, your thoughtful comment! 🎉
I am more interested in the tunnels to be honest.
I feel like I just got blueballed.
As a UX/UI designer I can assure you thats not an angle grinder. It's a Plumbus opener.
2:30 this is not an angle grinder...
Yeah, that's what I thought, but then they used a grinder to open the one up
How about just leaving them where they were and letting them rest in peace?
THE LEGENDARY HUNCHBACK...AND HIS BELOVED ESMARELDA...WHO WAS REALLY HANGED FOR BEING A WITCH?
I didn't know that story about Esmeralda.
@@sandraaguirre1906it’s in the original novel by Victor Hugo.
referring to a piece of the notre dame as iconic is pretty ironic
That's why they burnt the building to find the answers...
Surprised they don’t have full hazmat suits on incase of the black plague in the dust..
4:18 those eyes know why the were burried
it was creepy.
Vampires...
It’s just light passing though the thin bone behind the eyes
What a find these coffins and bones are.
Historical treasures
Saw the full video posted yesterday on this subject. I thought (hoped) maybe this was a continuation of what was discovered.😮💨
To all the people being outraged if you find a corpse you didn’t know was there underneath a building, even if you are sure it is an ancient corpse it’s needs to be removed and investigated. If you found the remains of someone who had been murdered you wouldn’t be in outrage that the grave had been disturbed.
Put that thing back where it came from or so help me
🤣🤣😭😭😭
😂
Amazing!!
To see it burn absolutely a shocking sight!wow human remains 😮
Exactly how rare is a lead coffin?
Why would they do that in the first place ???
it had to be outrageously expensive and difficult to make .
So if like the Egyptians that had stone and lead coffins on things, they did not want to be capable of resurrection , that was the motivation for the spiritual authorities to order such a burial- WHAT they were trying to bury could be a better question then the typical WHO.
Does the documentary answer those questions?
I don’t want to pay to view it if it doesn’t.
Lead coffins are not that that rare in Europe, it’s just that the amount of lead required was really expensive. Even abbots were buried in one (so far for living a pious, pour life). We even have to assume that there were more than we know of, but that the lead was repurposed when grave diggers accidentally found them. It was also common knowledge that lead coffins preserved better, which they could only know from opening them up (and probably not returning them to their grave)
The dubbing is terrible. Anyone watching PBS is capable of reading captions.
People with visual disabilities might disagree, friend.
I would like to learn why?
Why was the skull sawed open, why was plant matter in there. I have watched Silence of the Lamb's, and seeing this reminds me of a can of sardines. Was the person prepacked for a meal for some one or thing & they forgot where they burried it. Were the brains to delectable to them, not to save for later. Sick I know, but this theme keeps coming up in history.
Plant roots are surprisingly powerful. They need very little space to grow (into) and even flower roots go deep down. As an archaeologist, it’s the one thing I keep forgetting its impact. Even tree roots are no joke.
@@diekje8728yeah, plants thrive on bonemeal
Is the graves of Hunchy and Esmeralda??
Finally someone with culture!
This is hardly a shocker. Let's find ALL the bodies! May all of their souls rest in peace! 🧚🧚🧚
as a coffinologist i can cònirm this coffin very old
That's not what "begs the question" means.
these teasers are killing me!! I want to know don't keep me in suspense, so many questions!!!
For the first time youtube recommends something decent
If a church was built over the body? You sure as hell know you're not supposed to touch it 😮 Warning from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬
Hey?
Correct, bodies were often buried under the foundations of major buildings, and especially bridges, so their spirits could guard it.
So much for not disturbing the dead.
The older I get the more I get pissed about this. Let the blessed dead rest.
The dead are dead. They aren’t disturbed by their remains being touched.
They're dead - how could they possibly be disturbed?
If they didn’t know the remains were there even if you are absolutely sure they are an ancient corpse it’s probably best to remove them just to make sure. Plus they’re dead they don’t care.
@1:30 Why don't they just use a hand vaccuum⁉️ Much faster.
Or a water pressure cleaner
Beautiful 😮😮😮😮
never open a lead box ,the body was put in it for a reason ffs
Which is?...
@@MajorBinkssUsually diseases like Plague.
@@MajorBinkssso that it couldn't be x-rayed in the future and would have to be cut open with a 'grinder'
meh, superstition
Beautiful 😢😢😢😢what
OMG 😱 they found a skeleton! Incredible
So interesting
Posting about an angle grinder because everyone else is too 👍
A modern human adult would not fit in these coffins.
Cause we are to fat for one reason.
@michaelspring3915 Neither American children lol
People back than were on average shorter than we are today, and even if you were rich our food is a lot different than what they had. Also don’t forget that plenty of people didn’t live past the age of 50
This is the first video I have seen of the Notre dame burning although i heard about it, but couldn't find any videos( not that i tryed)
It happened 5 years ago. You missed a lot.
Because it was a terrorist attack. They’d been threatening it for hundreds of years.
Guess these people aren't resting in peace now
How long is opened the coffin there is periods of date and who are the real name???
Rumor has it it was set on fire in order to treasure hunt.
Because there is a older building underneath it... most churches have
Are there not relics of saints buried under churches?
Let them rest in peace
They did this because they were looking for something and can’t go in and just dig but if a fire happens then they can do archaeological stuff
people saying they started the fire to be able to dig.
hes open minded.
what's amazing is the state of the teeth, no cavities
Maybe a “pre sugar in Europe” burial.
@@jeannerogers7085they did have bread and beer tho
Jimmy Hoffa?
Lololol
Jimmy saville
Beautiful,!!!!!!!!!!!! Wat kinda person are you?
ND spire take down beginning another reset. Cathedrals or cathodes and catacombs 😮 oh my ......
With those body's buried there your prayers want reach heaven.
I remember that day. My heart sang.
I’m sure thousands of people died there prior to the cathedral being built and hundreads died while building it.
Why would you seal someone into a lead casket and bury them under a church if they were NOT a vampire?
If you are buried inside a church, you either were part of said church or you simply could afford it. In dutch there’s even an expression referencing this practice “stinking rich”, nice of you to be able to afford a burial site inside the church, your decaying body smells just as bad as anyone else’s and it’s right there for everyone to smell during service.
If anyone considered you to be anything but a faithful Christian, you wouldn’t even be buried near it.
They instead would put you outside of church grounds, on your stomach and/or facing west so that you can’t see Christ returning on judgement day. That was about the biggest insult you could get and you weren’t even alive to witness it.
It was common practice for nobility and people of fame or wealth (who donated to the church during lifetime huge sums) and high ranking clergy men to be put to rest under church floors or into crypts underneath. Therefore they preserved the bodies in lead coffins. Nobody wants rotting flesh under their feet. It has absolutely nothing to do with vampires or other unholy or dangerous things.
I was thinking it was a 1958 Les paul in there.
One of the things that has always creeped me out about Catholicism. Veneration of the dead is a sin yet here we are with dead bodies and body parts under the alter under the floors of Cathedral and the Mass can't be executed with out it. Leans more toward pagan occultism than Christianity if you ask me. I suppose if I were the Devil and I wanted to drag people away from God I'd do exactly what Catholicism is doing.
So true! Christians are buried in coffins because the idea was that your body needed to be complete when Christ returns on judgement day or you wouldn’t be able to get up. On the other hand, if you see how little effort they put into burying their dead or how grave diggers treated previous deceased, you can only start to wonder if they actually cared. …
Like lowering a coffin using the upper leg bones of the previously deceased person instead of ropes is for real a bridge too far
The coffins are heavy and tightly sealed for a reason. Now you have set them free. And the plants, were to ward off vampires.
Im guessing you still believe in Santa Klaus….
I'm sure Regina Scherzer knows about the bodies. She love this place.
The past people were ambitious in Mummyfying
The bodies were not mummified..see the skeletons.
It has been revealed that the John Doe is none other than Joachim du Bellay a famous poet from the 16th century.
Unleashing the beast.
Did the Hunchback survive?
that's not an agle grinder it's a nibbler
What ever happend to rest in peace. ?
Imamo i mi svoje kosture ispod kuhinje, ima i pokojna baka Ivane Krejačić iz Anne ulice ispod kuće, groblje male djece ostaci, navodno je to bilo u sklopu kuće časnih sestara u OSIJEKU.
"Wrong guy hospital "? 😨
I just googled who Antoine de la Porte and the mysterious sarcophagus. Archaeologists dug up pertinent info on these two high-status decedents. Fascinating revelations!
Some links?
The leaves are from burial arrangements and the skull is sawed open from autopsy?
Thats no angle grinder, they use on the sarcophagus thas a Double Cut Shear its similiar result to a Nibbler. Angle grinder is used later.
I exactly what Knights Templar grandmaster Tim Hogan predicted
Lead coffins are usually used for royalty ?
Not necessarily. Plenty of abbots and priests got ones as well and also the merchant elite could afford one
No one is royal.
Lead coffins have always been used in cases of highly contagious diseases, like Plague.
Such a cliffhanger.
I certainly wouldn’t want a cathedral buried over me..I like this and sure they will rebury in a better place…
That video ends waaaaaay too quickly with yeah! "So many questions!"
Is Norte Dam erected on a lay line intersection??
It was said that most place of worships were.
First Pagan temples then later Christian churches over them.
Interesting though is the discovery of the body.
It's filthy.
They should not violate remains
Back in the day very spiritual people were put under churches as they wanted to be close to God when they resurrected... Sure there heart would brake to know this was what would happen
Dopo 5 anni si può sapere cosa hanno scoperto/capito o è un segreto ?
I believe this will be THE LAST thing we hear of this. So I'm moving on.