@@drelocs2878 Your comment has shown me that you’re just a knee jerk reactionist who’s deliberately picked the end of of statement but not the most important part which is the beginning
Chuck berry and lil Richard Invented rock n roll ,i found this out through Late Lemmy of Motorhead. Its sad most people do not know this, nearing 40 Y.O i realize there is an actual effort to hide the truth from the public about many things in history, not just in music, stay clean my brothers! RIP to all the pioneers of rock n roll !
@@gayhendrie84Ike Turner is first person on the planet to return a “Rock N Roll” song. It was called “Rocket 88.,” produced by Sam Phillips. Same person who produced Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis. Sister Rosetta Tharpe should also be given credit as a founder of rock ‘n’ roll.
The song "Rock Around the Clock" (which was later used as the intro for the tv show "Happy Days")was a hit for Bill Haley but it was Wally Mercer Sr., a black man, who wrote that song and never got any credit.
Thank You. THIS... IS ABSOLUTE FACTS. Bill Haley was a country music artist who saw the rising popularity of Rhythm and Blues (then known a "Jump Blues") and proceeded to hire Louis Jordan's writers and producers in order to reproduce the (then current) Black sound of R&B. There is a massive difference between appreciation... and appropriation. This example, is solid example of the cultural appropriation (thievery) common during this time in history.
IMHO, We started EVERY genre in this country. We just didnt patented it. You speak on Col Tom Parker and his percentage. Duke Ellington had the same type of manager. So this guy is on da level
I would say she was the corner stone because chuck used her for his inspiration and they bounced that energy off each other but he intentionally paved the way for rock and roll and keep bringing more and more ppl to it.
We must NEVER forget Louis Jordan's inventiveness and contribution to the structure of this music. It would be a massive disrespect for him AND Sister Rosetta Thorpe to knowingly be left out of this conversation. 😉 Keep in mind those making this clip, may have forgotten, or even been overwhelmed due to the endless number of Black/African U.S.artists who've added musical innovation to the creation of this form. Think about it. This video is only covering musical innovation in one genre of music from one region/country. It's only when seriously investigating/including the Caribbean, Central and South America that one rrrrrreally understands the full scope of the Black/ African Diaspora's place as the foundational creators of popular music worldwide... ...for OVER 300 YEARS. 🎵👍🏾♥️👏🏾🔥👊🏾🎶
Yeah, but Black Americans are the foundation for all genre's of music- you might find one or 2 famous international musicians for each genre but when it comes to Black Americans, our lineage is unlimited and timeless- henceforth most of the worldwide 🌐 jealousy 😊
@@stevemayfield4337 Just got a chance to read your response... and after approx 45 years of studying the music and dance genres of Black/African peoples in the (entire) diaspora... I'd have to say I disagree with your claim/perspective ...and assume you wrote what you wrote... in jest. I understand your sense of national pride in the accomplishments of your countrymen, however my studying of (all of) our people's imprint on culture... in the so-called "new world" ...comes from... honest research of anthropological, cultural, historical, sociological (etc. etc.) influences of ALL Black/African peoples... period. Whether referring to the assimilation of African Banjo into U.S. via English and French Afro- Caribbean music traditions... ...or the explosion of American Big Band Jazz and it's transformative effect on Cuban Son in the later creation of Mambo/Salsa orchestras .. ...the adoption of Afro-Latin/Caribbean rhythm/instrumentation into North American R&B, Jazz, and Soul during mid and late 20th century giving rise to 70s Philly, Disco, Jazz Fusion, Boogaloo, Funk... ...Afro-Colombian Cumbia in it's decades long spread into through Central America into Mexico... ...American small ensemble Blues, Country, and R&B influence transforming Jamaica's Mento into Ska, Rock Steady and Reggae... ...later adoption and rapid spread of Jamaican Dancehall and it's transformation into Latin American Reggaeton in (first) Panama, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic... ...or ANY of the countless African idioms that have transferred across language and geographical barriers between diasporic Black/African peoples (a phenomenon which in turn inspired many distinct genres and "styles")... ...we can see there's been too much cross fertilization for me, as a Black/African person to get caught up in nationalist flag waving and claim taking. So, what all of this means is... ...while I respect and truly appreciate Chuck Berry's popularizing (lead and rhythm) guitar in Jump Blues (Rock and Roll) form (giving us a leading "soloist" other than the singer, piano or horn player)... ...it wouldn't be honest or respectful to get on like Chuck Berry "invented" or created the style... ...ESPECIALLY knowing Sister Rosetta Thorpe and other Black/African artists were already playing guitar this way long before Chuck Berry. Essentially, what I'm saying is that... ...boasting about the dominance of Black/African American popular culture (as though it occured in a vacuum)... ...sounds far too much like White Euro Americans boasting like they're the sole reason for popular culture... ...without knowing how these examples of "culture" came to be. I understand appreciation expressed as pride, however I hope this conversation about Black/African creativity isn't being twisted into something unhealthy. I'm going to assume you made your comment as a joke. 😏 Start taking the study of our collective cultural imprint and it's development SERIOUSLY... ...and you'll find Black/African music and dance is far more significant than childish fan(atical) cheering about who's name is at the top of the pop chart. 😉 Trust me...
@@oneandonlyone1 Indeed, tracing the journey of African music and dance in "The Americas"... 😊 ...has been one of the most significant passions to shape my life... 😉 ...even far beyond the realm of music and dance. Experiencing serious investigation of music/dance, led me (sometimes in spite of my "self" 😆 )... and kept me looking at language/dialects, clothing/addornment, cuisine, in a whole deeper way. Seeing Black/African culture (in particular and Human culture/nature in general)... through an objective lense prevents me from being subject to emotion/superstition led responses to what I perceive. This has given me a serious, loving, respectful regard for the creative expression of Black/African peoples in particular... and all of Humanity in general. And although many would assume serious analytical understanding eliminates removes "pleasure" from our perception... ...if I've learned anything from this (total) experience of culture... ...having a serious analytical understanding of culture does not take away the primal enjoyment of it... 😏 ...any more than knowing what an omelette is made of would stop it from tasting good.😆 So yeah... it's quite a journey.👊🏾
Nope he didn’t invent rock and roll . Yes he has some sounds and tunes that were rocks and roll ish that inspired the likes of chuck but chuck put in the work to make a movement into rock and roll. Not Ike
@@stickmanbw you act as if I never head it before. I’ve heard it and again with out chuck pushing rock and roll it would not exist again I’m not saying Ike didn’t have a hand in it but chuck is who did the leg work to make it what it became . Him ,little Richie and others .
*Eastside Low Bottoms sh*t !* _Tappin' in from South Central LA_ Just like the upcoming documentary _Microphone Check_ about the real origins of Hip Hop and its creators by Tariq Nasheed ✊🏾, there needs to be a similar documentary done about the real origins of Rock and Roll. This is much needed ! 🤜🏾💥🤛🏾
That shiii was classic how they thought Chuck Berry was white from his name on Cadillac records and how he took his poster down and left the club from not being able to play there 🔥
@@cassandraclark5499 when i first heard of chuck berry as a kid on tv it was from the film back to the future and I thought the song originated from the film
So true 👍🏾. Ike Turner was demonized by the white media but he was a true genius in his own right. It's interesting how the same white media never demonized the yt boy who destroyed the Debarge children
Turns out this "shine my shoes" story (that my mother told me during the mid/late 60s) is not true. It was a false news article published by a White American news publisher with a paper "targeting" Black/African U.S. readers. It wasn't until I researched Elvis Presley's relationship with the Black/African American community (and the source of that article) that I became aware of the truth. My mother R.I.P. passed away (at 100 years of age) before I could tell her the truth. (Which 'causes me to wonder... how much of what we hear in media ...is truth?)
To be fair to Elvis he himself said that even though people were crediting him with inventing rock n roll he didn't invent rock n roll but that many other people were doing it long before he came along
Shit not hidden it's in museums. We made way more than a genre of music. It's a woman who legitly had her DNA stolen because her blood could cure multiple diseases. We're saints and angels in Guinea pig bodies flesh suits. This western way isn't for us and we thrive inspite. The first and will be the last
Everything came from the black man literally everything the black man is the original man sent from Allah they know who we are we just don’t know so when y’all wake up from your blissful ignorance and being brainwashed cuz the truth hurts and lies feel good bet u we wouldn’t get treated like we do somebody gotta b willing to die for the greater good
Why do you harp on it? Is this a serious question? Are you not aware of whose faces encompass all of Rock and Roll? Are you not aware of the recent racists comments made by Rolling Stone's Jann Wenner? If blacks don't harp on it, this knowledge of musical genius will be lost forever. Same has happened to Blues, and Jazz. The pretenders, and thieves are now the greatest beneficiaries of the aforementioned musical genres. So, while flattering that White people know, and love Black music it's egregious that Whites continue to give themselves credit for doing the least and in some cases nothing at all but continue to profit the most.
It’s not about an acknowledgement of whether or not white folks loved the music. It’s about giving credit where it’s due! Imagine working anywhere and your boss took credit for your work! I think that’d be a problem for you. Unless you’re an alien of course!😂
Country Music too
All music!
Correct!
Black Music White Business it’s not rocket science
To kids who stumble upon this video or grown adults who don’t know any better it is rocket science.
@@drelocs2878 Your comment has shown me that you’re just a knee jerk reactionist who’s deliberately picked the end of of statement but not the most important part which is the beginning
And a whole lot of racism wtf
Black anything : White business
@@ThinkerHaistTV That part and then some
Chuck berry and lil Richard Invented rock n roll ,i found this out through Late Lemmy of Motorhead. Its sad most people do not know this, nearing 40 Y.O i realize there is an actual effort to hide the truth from the public about many things in history, not just in music, stay clean my brothers! RIP to all the pioneers of rock n roll !
everybody did know
@@gayhendrie84Ike Turner is first person on the planet to return a “Rock N Roll” song. It was called “Rocket 88.,” produced by Sam Phillips. Same person who produced Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis. Sister Rosetta Tharpe should also be given credit as a founder of rock ‘n’ roll.
I think perhaps they ducked them from history to protect white women from Golden showers.@@gayhendrie84
@@St.MauriceI agree. Ms. Rosetta Tharpe should have a documentary about her extraordinary accomplishments being known as the Queen of rock n’ roll.
please know the difference between inventions and creations.
What about Sister Rosetta Thorpe? They maybe weren’t calling it Rock and roll but it sure sounded like Rock and Roll
Chuck Berry and
Little Richard were the original
Rock N Rollers!
Not up for debate!
Their music is timeless!
God bless their souls!
Most definitely can't debate the truth!
100% facts!
And FATS DOMANO.
@timothylawson3262
Not a competition nor a debate!
Go live your best life!
@@timothylawson3262
Like the other individual said;
Go live your best life!
The song "Rock Around the Clock" (which was later used as the intro for the tv show "Happy Days")was a hit for Bill Haley but it was Wally Mercer Sr., a black man, who wrote that song and never got any credit.
Thank You.
THIS... IS ABSOLUTE FACTS.
Bill Haley was a country music
artist who saw the rising
popularity of Rhythm and
Blues (then known a "Jump
Blues") and proceeded to
hire Louis Jordan's writers
and producers in order to
reproduce the (then current)
Black sound of R&B.
There is a massive
difference between
appreciation... and
appropriation.
This example, is solid
example of the cultural
appropriation (thievery)
common during this
time in history.
Rock N Roll equals
Little Richard and
Chuck Berry!
The Originators of
Rock N Roll!
Nuff said!
Definitely country too
IMHO, We started EVERY genre in this country. We just didnt patented it. You speak on Col Tom Parker and his percentage. Duke Ellington had the same type of manager. So this guy is on da level
Don't forget Johnny Guitar Watson with the song Space Guitar
I’m pretty sure sister Rosetta Thorpe was the founder of rock roll. That’s how she is remembered in the rock of roll hall of fame
I would say she was the corner stone because chuck used her for his inspiration and they bounced that energy off each other but he intentionally paved the way for rock and roll and keep bringing more and more ppl to it.
Powerful and interesting interview.
We must NEVER forget
Louis Jordan's inventiveness
and contribution to the
structure of this music.
It would be a massive
disrespect for him AND
Sister Rosetta Thorpe to
knowingly be left out
of this conversation.
😉 Keep in mind those
making this clip, may
have forgotten, or even
been overwhelmed due
to the endless number
of Black/African U.S.artists
who've added musical
innovation to the
creation of this form.
Think about it. This
video is only covering
musical innovation in
one genre of music
from one region/country.
It's only when seriously
investigating/including
the Caribbean, Central
and South America that
one rrrrrreally understands
the full scope of the Black/
African Diaspora's place
as the foundational
creators of popular
music worldwide...
...for OVER 300 YEARS.
🎵👍🏾♥️👏🏾🔥👊🏾🎶
Yeah, but Black Americans are the foundation for all genre's of music- you might find one or 2 famous international musicians for each genre but when it comes to Black Americans, our lineage is unlimited and timeless- henceforth most of the worldwide 🌐 jealousy 😊
@@stevemayfield4337
Just got a chance to read your response... and after approx 45 years of studying the music and dance genres of Black/African peoples in the (entire) diaspora... I'd have to say I disagree with your claim/perspective ...and assume you wrote what you wrote... in jest.
I understand your sense of national pride in the accomplishments of your countrymen, however my studying of (all of) our people's imprint on culture... in the so-called "new world" ...comes from... honest research of anthropological, cultural, historical, sociological (etc. etc.) influences of ALL Black/African peoples... period.
Whether referring to the assimilation of African Banjo into U.S. via English and French Afro- Caribbean music traditions...
...or the explosion of American Big Band Jazz and it's transformative effect on Cuban Son in the later creation of Mambo/Salsa orchestras ..
...the adoption of Afro-Latin/Caribbean rhythm/instrumentation into North American R&B, Jazz, and Soul during mid and late 20th century giving rise to 70s Philly, Disco, Jazz Fusion, Boogaloo, Funk...
...Afro-Colombian Cumbia in it's decades long spread into through Central America into Mexico...
...American small ensemble Blues, Country, and R&B influence transforming Jamaica's Mento into Ska, Rock Steady and Reggae...
...later adoption and rapid spread of Jamaican Dancehall and it's transformation into Latin American Reggaeton in (first) Panama, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic...
...or ANY of the countless African idioms that have transferred across language and geographical barriers between diasporic Black/African peoples (a phenomenon which in turn inspired many distinct genres and "styles")...
...we can see there's been too much cross fertilization for me, as a Black/African person to get caught up in nationalist flag waving and claim taking.
So, what all of this means is...
...while I respect and truly appreciate Chuck Berry's popularizing (lead and rhythm) guitar in Jump Blues (Rock and Roll) form (giving us a leading "soloist" other than the singer, piano or horn player)...
...it wouldn't be honest or respectful to get on like Chuck Berry "invented" or created the style...
...ESPECIALLY knowing Sister Rosetta Thorpe and other Black/African artists were already playing guitar this way long before Chuck Berry.
Essentially, what I'm saying is that...
...boasting about the dominance of Black/African American popular culture (as though it occured in a vacuum)...
...sounds far too much like White Euro Americans boasting like they're the sole reason for popular culture...
...without knowing how these examples of "culture" came to be.
I understand appreciation expressed as pride, however I hope this conversation about Black/African creativity isn't being twisted into something unhealthy. I'm going to assume you made your comment as a joke. 😏
Start taking the study of our collective cultural imprint and
it's development SERIOUSLY...
...and you'll find Black/African music and dance is far more significant than childish fan(atical) cheering about who's name is at the top of the pop chart.
😉 Trust me...
@@GordonBeckles sounds like you have been on a wonderful journey xx
@@oneandonlyone1 Indeed, tracing the journey of African music and dance in "The Americas"... 😊 ...has been one of the most significant passions to shape my life... 😉 ...even far beyond the realm of music and dance.
Experiencing serious investigation of music/dance, led me (sometimes in spite of my "self" 😆 )... and kept me looking at language/dialects, clothing/addornment, cuisine, in a whole deeper way. Seeing Black/African culture (in particular and Human culture/nature in general)... through an objective lense prevents me from being subject to emotion/superstition led responses to what I perceive.
This has given me a serious, loving, respectful regard for the creative expression of Black/African peoples in particular... and all of Humanity in general.
And although many would assume serious analytical understanding eliminates removes "pleasure" from our perception...
...if I've learned anything from this (total) experience of culture...
...having a serious analytical understanding of culture does not take away the primal enjoyment of it... 😏 ...any more than knowing what an omelette is made of would stop it from tasting good.😆
So yeah... it's quite a journey.👊🏾
Ike Turner, ues that Ike Turner invented Rock N Roll. The song was called Rocket 88. He played lead guitar and his style of play staeted it.
Nope he didn’t invent rock and roll . Yes he has some sounds and tunes that were rocks and roll ish that inspired the likes of chuck but chuck put in the work to make a movement into rock and roll. Not Ike
@Maatson_ The Rock N Roll sound would have never been invented without Ike. Rocket 88 is the first Rock n Roll song. This is not hard to look uo.
@@stickmanbw you act as if I never head it before. I’ve heard it and again with out chuck pushing rock and roll it would not exist again I’m not saying Ike didn’t have a hand in it but chuck is who did the leg work to make it what it became . Him ,little Richie and others .
@Maatson_ You can have Rock n Roll without Chuck Berry, but Rock n Roll doesn't exist without Ike Turner.
@@stickmanbw stop caping you can’t have rock and roll with out him so stop just stop .
Great Conversation... Vanguards Rock, Folk , Classical ..( Rebirth)..🌺♥️
*Eastside Low Bottoms sh*t !*
_Tappin' in from South Central LA_
Just like the upcoming documentary _Microphone Check_ about the real origins of Hip Hop and its creators by Tariq Nasheed ✊🏾, there needs to be a similar documentary done about the real origins of Rock and Roll. This is much needed !
🤜🏾💥🤛🏾
Facts B1
Cadillac records comes pretty close
no rock n roll before mr chuck berry🔥
That shiii was classic how they thought Chuck Berry was white from his name on Cadillac records and how he took his poster down and left the club from not being able to play there 🔥
@@cassandraclark5499 my dad always said chuck berry was a cool cat !
@@cassandraclark5499 when i first heard of chuck berry as a kid on tv it was from the film back to the future and I thought the song originated from the film
Go listen to ROY HAMILTON and you will hear exactly were Elvis Pressly got his whole Persona
From.
I was going to say the same thing, until I saw your comment. Thank you.
@@Carl-b1q ____ You're welcome!
@@Carl-b1q ____ You're welcome
You got that ✅️ right ✅️. Elvis stole EVERYTHING FROM ROY!
Albeit Tina is my biggest idol, we have to give credit to Ike Turner. He created the first ever rock n’ roll song “Rocket ‘88” in 1951.
So true 👍🏾. Ike Turner was demonized by the white media but he was a true genius in his own right. It's interesting how the same white media never demonized the yt boy who destroyed the Debarge children
Facts Google it
Don’t absolved Elvis! So easily the same man that said he only needed a black person to Shine his SHOES!! 🤔
After watching this I begin to think he said that cuz he knew we were the best at it
Daryl Davis seems to be a white apologist!
@@astronomikalacFacts
Turns out this "shine my shoes"
story (that my mother told me
during the mid/late 60s) is
not true. It was a false news
article published by a White
American news publisher
with a paper "targeting"
Black/African U.S. readers.
It wasn't until I researched
Elvis Presley's relationship
with the Black/African
American community
(and the source of that
article) that I became
aware of the truth.
My mother R.I.P. passed
away (at 100 years of age)
before I could tell her
the truth.
(Which 'causes me to
wonder... how much
of what we hear in
media ...is truth?)
Elvis said he DIDN'T invent rock n roll but that many people were doing it before he came along
nuff love and thanks
Speak on it brother
Tell it!! They gone learn today.
Great history lesson
Sick planet. But the Man's comin round.
Damn straight, it's X 4 our ppl 2 get da credit that they deserve. X 4 the truth 2 be told.
To be fair to Elvis he himself said that even though people were crediting him with inventing rock n roll he didn't invent rock n roll but that many other people were doing it long before he came along
Im not surprised.....hidden history
Shit not hidden it's in museums. We made way more than a genre of music. It's a woman who legitly had her DNA stolen because her blood could cure multiple diseases. We're saints and angels in Guinea pig bodies flesh suits. This western way isn't for us and we thrive inspite. The first and will be the last
Bluegrass too
Every major form of Rock music was pioneered by a black person at its origin.
I saw Bo Diddley in like 2003, the crowd was ALL white....same with when I saw BB King - ALL white.
Don’t forget about Robert Johnson
We got to get away from these people.... music and culture bandits
so what the same people owned it that now own and control rap so what's the difference?
We wuz kangz we inventing erreythang dey wuz stealin mah NEEKA we made da rock n rap nd airplane n da wheel n da gun
Chuck berry copied it note for note from another black man in the 1940s
Who might that be?
Copied who, give names............ that's what I thought.
Copied who give names........... that's what I thought.
Stop it son, the only thing that the white man has created is the patend office and oppression.
So your saying drake is the new Elvis 🤔 😂
No. That would be Eminem.
Everything came from the black man literally everything the black man is the original man sent from Allah they know who we are we just don’t know so when y’all wake up from your blissful ignorance and being brainwashed cuz the truth hurts and lies feel good bet u we wouldn’t get treated like we do somebody gotta b willing to die for the greater good
You literally wore chains around your neck lol
Its not unacknowledged we white people knew and loved the music Why do you harp on it?I'm 80 and I was there from the start
more and more these things are being Revealed,the more and more We realize just how Sick and twisted you are.
Why do you harp on it? Is this a serious question? Are you not aware of whose faces encompass all of Rock and Roll? Are you not aware of the recent racists comments made by Rolling Stone's Jann Wenner? If blacks don't harp on it, this knowledge of musical genius will be lost forever. Same has happened to Blues, and Jazz. The pretenders, and thieves are now the greatest beneficiaries of the aforementioned musical genres. So, while flattering that White people know, and love Black music it's egregious that Whites continue to give themselves credit for doing the least and in some cases nothing at all but continue to profit the most.
It’s not about an acknowledgement of whether or not white folks loved the music. It’s about giving credit where it’s due! Imagine working anywhere and your boss took credit for your work! I think that’d be a problem for you. Unless you’re an alien of course!😂
@@wataboxachun insightful contribution 👏🏿 ❤❤
@@ninahawkins4550💯
Did y'all know that there is 110 ridges on a dime
One thing for sure black people made crack rock famous, that can't be taken from us.
😂🤣 Mzungu's 👉Meth pipes for sale 🤣😂