This piece really kicked off my high school saxophone career. I picked this piece up in 8th grade after googling “hardest saxophone piece” and it took me a full two years to learn it at the level I was at. Sophomore year I took it to S&E and killed it!! I’d tackle pieces like this throughout high school, but it’s all thanks to this piece I’m at the level I’m at. It’s definitely one of the few things I’m very proud of in my life.
@@ozarisb i know i’m not the original commenter, but major props to you for looking into this piece as an eighth grader. i’m a sophomore and thinking about playing it this spring. good luck!
hey, i find it really cool you started learning this song in 8th grade, but the most impressive and inspiring part is that you continued and didn't give up for a whole two years! congratulations on an amazing preformance 😄
I performed this my senior year of college and practiced so hard for the line at 11:50, the downward chromatic line, and I still didn't make it as smooth as this guy. At the end my teacher congratulated me for a job well done and my response was to only say "I missed this particular line"... She told me to stop it and accept the compliment that I played well. It struck me hard and I felt humbled. She was right, we are our own worst critics and it's good to accept a compliment with grace.
Hi everyone, anyone else doing this beautiful piece at the moment during quarentine? I'm trying to get it ready and will add it to my other videos when it's finished. This video has been such a great help. Thank you
It's one of those melodies, like Saint-Saens 2nd Piano Concerto or Beethoven's 6th Symphony or Tchaikovsky's Variations on a Rococo Theme. Gotta love em
Same dude he was playing the lowest notes possible and yet he sounded like he was just playing A and ı was like whaaat than ı saw the g and ı was like ooooooh lmao
I love this piece so much. I'm a pianist but don't know any saxophonists. I know an amazing clarinetist. Does anyone know if this would transfer well to the clarinet?
Rachelle S. Well it can be transferred because of its concert like written state so all of the saxophone notes are an octave lower. So that means the F# is the highest note in here. It can be transferred but it is written specifically for saxophone. Might as well write a new one
@@stefano6531 I just love it so much. If it's in the range and the capability of the clarinet, I would do it. I know there are several different types of clarinets. I would never dream of transposing the piano part. But I could easily transpose the clarinet. I'd just put it in notation software at concert pitch and then raise or lower.
Rachelle S. I don’t think this piece goes down to low Bb (on saxophone). I know bass clarinets have the low Db key (which is Bb on sax), idk about regular clarinets. Higher range isn’t an issue. As long as there are no Bb’s, this should be transposable.
This should translate nicely to the clarinet at the same pitch - no need to transpose the piano part. It would be interesting to hear it interpreted with a subtle vibrato. The soprano clarinet originally included a Bb/Eb key like the current alto and bass for much the same reason: not for the extended range but for the improved intonation of the B/E.
What. No this is not correct. This is not written an octave lower. It’s concert pitch. For the saxophones note you bring it up a major sixth. For clarinet you bring it up a major second. This piece would work well on clarinet and would be technically difficult, but the range is really manageable for clarinet. It only goes to their c above the staff.
This is the piano score, sometimes in Piano Scores the Alto Sax part is transposed from its original Eflat key to Concert Pitch or C. However not all piano scores do this. The lowest note on that time stamp for the alto is actually only a C# below the staff for Alto Sax Notation. Rather than an E below the staff which is seen here.
Play the whole piece, the first movement doesnt make much sense without the rest. I'll have to look back at my notes for specific measures, but i'd focus highly on the first page...sets up the whole movement. Make sure your tempo is within your actual ramge of playing (tone on point, articulation on point etc.) Get those things down way under tempo then speed it up. Tl:dr Practice.
Do you know the original tempo written were later revised by Creston himself, so the first movement went from 126 (which is still what is indicated on most scores) to 120, the second from 66 to 56, and the third from 160 to 144. This means: don't play too fast. Hope it's not too late and good luck!
It's Eugene Rousseau, from his album Saxophone Masterpieces tracks 1-3. Would be nice if the guy that ran this channel attributed the actual artist, but I'm guessing he doesn't have copyright permission.
Cole Reed many reasons. It’s standard solo writing for the Sax. It helps to keep the ungodly high notes within the staves. If you get good you can even read concert pitch.
@@jacobbass6226 I can't transpose worth shit I've been playing alto for 6 years and I'm confused on how someone learns to do this. it overwrites what you already know and seem like if you do it to much it would ruin your normal sight reading
I'm accompanying this for this first time in a few weeks. For all the difficulty pianists seem to attribute to this sonata, it seems pretty fake-able lol and not too bad
@@niinaranta3014 The piano isn't the main instrument in this piece though. In a concerto, there is a soloist even though there is an entire orchestra behind them. E.g. Mozart clarinet concerto: the soloist is a clarinet, which is backed by the orchestra. The saxophone is the soloist in this piece.
Royal Goodness Bitch, are you fucking stupid? In music, a solo (from the Italian: solo, meaning alone) is a piece or a section of a piece played or sung featuring a single performer, who may be performing completely alone or supported by an accompanying instrument such as a piano or organ, a continuo group (in Baroque music), or the rest of a choir, orchestra, band, or other ensemble.
El saxofonista es Eugene Rousseau y la pianista es Jaromir Klepac. Nadie lo había averiguado hasta ahora, osea espero que esto resuelva sus problemas.👍
May I ask you if you get reclamations for these videos? I have a TH-cam channel and I get reclamations everytime I create a video where I play even 20seconds of music! Even with the permission of the musicians! So I wonder if you have the same problem! Best regards and thank you very much for this video!
Diego Satori I didn’t forget harmony. People put WAY too much emphasis on harmony. Like anything that has a maj7 chord and some extended harmony gets labeled as “jazzy” which is ridiculous and completely discredits a lot of what Jazz actually is. Also, this was composed/released in 1939. Practically every composer was using harmony like this if not more radical during this time not to mention that this kind of harmony predates Jazz to begin with.
I would say the first two measures, with their chromatic motion dominant seven chords, would not be out of place, harmonically, in a Duke Ellington composition.
I'm playing movement one this year. But how tf is a saxophone gonna play low g. You can tell this isn't a bari playing and an alto isn't playing low g or low a man.
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We pianists call this the “Creston Sonata for Piano with Alto Sax accompaniment”.
Hahaha true 😂
Lmao so true. I'm a sax player but I performed this with a pianist in college and she was great and still made little mistakes. This is a HARD piece.
Hahahahaha
I'm playing this with a client this weekend. Pianists of the world give me strength.
100% fair. When I did my BMus on classical saxophone pretty much all the accompanists would veto it (especially the 3rd mvt!).
This still slaps 81 years later
This piece really kicked off my high school saxophone career. I picked this piece up in 8th grade after googling “hardest saxophone piece” and it took me a full two years to learn it at the level I was at. Sophomore year I took it to S&E and killed it!! I’d tackle pieces like this throughout high school, but it’s all thanks to this piece I’m at the level I’m at. It’s definitely one of the few things I’m very proud of in my life.
I’m not sure you’ll see my comment but i’m starting this piece as an 8th grader. I’m also preparing for S&E! Any tips?
I’m not sure you’ll see my comment but i’m starting this piece as an 8th grader. I’m also preparing for S&E! Any tips?
I’m not sure you’ll see my comment but i’m starting this piece as an 8th grader. I’m also preparing for S&E! Any tips?
@@ozarisb i know i’m not the original commenter, but major props to you for looking into this piece as an eighth grader. i’m a sophomore and thinking about playing it this spring. good luck!
hey, i find it really cool you started learning this song in 8th grade, but the most impressive and inspiring part is that you continued and didn't give up for a whole two years! congratulations on an amazing preformance 😄
I performed this my senior year of college and practiced so hard for the line at 11:50, the downward chromatic line, and I still didn't make it as smooth as this guy.
At the end my teacher congratulated me for a job well done and my response was to only say "I missed this particular line"...
She told me to stop it and accept the compliment that I played well. It struck me hard and I felt humbled. She was right, we are our own worst critics and it's good to accept a compliment with grace.
I’ve listened to this so many times, I’ve grown attached to the creston. It’s just so moving.
Assistant
The sax is Eugene Rousseau and the pianist is Jaromir Klepac, from Rousseau's album "Rousseau: Saxophone Masterpieces". You're welcome👍.
Thank you
Oh no wonder the sax playing is so pristine, it's Rousseau
thank you
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Thanks
5:32 for the sax part on the second movement
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7:19-7:40 always gets me so emotional ugh😭 it’s so gorgeous
The beauty of the saxophone
I'm a junior in highschool and I plan to play this on bari sax either in March, or March of my senior year. It's so beautiful
Wow, they both kick some serious ass, but my hat is off to the pianist especially -- this is a notoriously thorny piece to play.
Hi everyone, anyone else doing this beautiful piece at the moment during quarentine? I'm trying to get it ready and will add it to my other videos when it's finished.
This video has been such a great help. Thank you
Whoa, that is an amazing piano accompaniment.
By far my favorite recording of this. I really hope to play this my junior year of college. I am currently working on the Muczynski Sonata.
同級生の友だち(中3)がこれ演奏しててマジですごかった。
音色も、動く度に光るサックスも、全部がとにかくきれいで涙でそうだった、、、
For those wondering this is the piano score for Paul Creston Sonata for Piano and Alto Saxophone.
4:49 ❤
Yesss
5:14 is so heartachingly beautiful
10:46, that run is so beautiful
First time hearing this, this is so beautiful.
Can’t wait doing this solo next year.
Lovely, delicate and sensitive playing. :)
Currently in my super ego phase and learning this
0:08 0:20 A 0:30 1:08 1:18 1:30 1:37 1:41 1:56 A 2:07 2:22 3:13 3:30 3:55 4:08 (4:25, 4:31) 7:18 9:25(n.g) (9:41 9:53)
9:24 for reference, movement 3
I wish I had the balls to take this on.
Ethan Buchwald me too but I’m stilll doing it😭
Migishi Kurokuru samee, hoping go to state for solo and ensemble
Lauren Salinas I made it this year!!
You mean for the piano, right?
I'm starting to learn this for NYSSMA, 4 days before, kill me please😅😐😭
je le présente mon examen de fin de troisième cycle de saxophone en mai 2019, merci cela m' aide................
can’t get the third movement out of my head...
Gabriel Bustos i can’t get it out of my saxophone either
It's one of those melodies, like Saint-Saens 2nd Piano Concerto or Beethoven's 6th Symphony or Tchaikovsky's Variations on a Rococo Theme. Gotta love em
Maria Micciche lmao
Yeah!
Oh I'm a dumb ass i thought the sax line was in key of Eb got freaked out by that low G
Ali O bro same
Same dude he was playing the lowest notes possible and yet he sounded like he was just playing A and ı was like whaaat than ı saw the g and ı was like ooooooh lmao
I am playing this and I love it :P✨
I love this piece so much. I'm a pianist but don't know any saxophonists. I know an amazing clarinetist. Does anyone know if this would transfer well to the clarinet?
Rachelle S. Well it can be transferred because of its concert like written state so all of the saxophone notes are an octave lower. So that means the F# is the highest note in here. It can be transferred but it is written specifically for saxophone. Might as well write a new one
@@stefano6531 I just love it so much. If it's in the range and the capability of the clarinet, I would do it. I know there are several different types of clarinets.
I would never dream of transposing the piano part. But I could easily transpose the clarinet. I'd just put it in notation software at concert pitch and then raise or lower.
Rachelle S. I don’t think this piece goes down to low Bb (on saxophone). I know bass clarinets have the low Db key (which is Bb on sax), idk about regular clarinets. Higher range isn’t an issue. As long as there are no Bb’s, this should be transposable.
This should translate nicely to the clarinet at the same pitch - no need to transpose the piano part. It would be interesting to hear it interpreted with a subtle vibrato.
The soprano clarinet originally included a Bb/Eb key like the current alto and bass for much the same reason: not for the extended range but for the improved intonation of the B/E.
What. No this is not correct. This is not written an octave lower. It’s concert pitch. For the saxophones note you bring it up a major sixth. For clarinet you bring it up a major second. This piece would work well on clarinet and would be technically difficult, but the range is really manageable for clarinet. It only goes to their c above the staff.
This makes me wish I could go back to middle school and learn saxophone just to be able to play this by my senior year of high school
As I listen to this, I imagine walking serenely into solo & ensemble festival, nailing this, and serenely walking out with my medal.
You can learn again !
I know I’m late to respond, but it’s never to late to learn something
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POV: you're here for an honor band audition recording
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Wait... I seriously need 48 hours in a day to practice this. I'm not sure if I can be ready before November 😢 pray for me guys 🥲
No FOR REALS
PS: kinda did it, but it’s still hard 😂😂
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What does the saxophone have an F# at 2:07? Is it all shown at concert pitch? 💀
I was supposed to do this for all state in my sophomore year of highschool and I mean I didn’t practice enough but this piece is hard
Wow, really nice piece. I’d like to do a transcription to guitar of the piano part, although it would probably be incredibly difficult to play.
I would also think balance would be a HUGE issue
Wonderful!!
Amazing music
Amazing!!
Beautiful 😍
0:17 he plays a C-natural instead of that second C## :P
No, he just dropped his jaw a bit to much
It’s neither. That’s a typo.it should be a c natural or a natural written pitch.
Brilliant!
I got to play this song for my solo this year i like it
2:46 how it's possible for sax alto , the low note ?
This is the piano score, sometimes in Piano Scores the Alto Sax part is transposed from its original Eflat key to Concert Pitch or C. However not all piano scores do this. The lowest note on that time stamp for the alto is actually only a C# below the staff for Alto Sax Notation. Rather than an E below the staff which is seen here.
So state solo and ensemble is this month. I’m playing the first movement, anything I should work on? (Specifically)
Play the whole piece, the first movement doesnt make much sense without the rest.
I'll have to look back at my notes for specific measures, but i'd focus highly on the first page...sets up the whole movement. Make sure your tempo is within your actual ramge of playing (tone on point, articulation on point etc.) Get those things down way under tempo then speed it up.
Tl:dr
Practice.
Shayne Lewis bruh I already got a superior I’m finishing the final touches
Do you know the original tempo written were later revised by Creston himself, so the first movement went from 126 (which is still what is indicated on most scores) to 120, the second from 66 to 56, and the third from 160 to 144.
This means: don't play too fast.
Hope it's not too late and good luck!
Marche Remi dang I didn’t know this. I played at state and got an excellent because it was my 2nd time playing with my pianist
Marche Remi Dang 56?? I was comfortable at 70 let alone 56! I’d run out of breath after the first measure 😂
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임유내 b
Who are the performers on this recording?
0:05 (sorry, using this for myself with a metronome just ignore this comment)
lol that's so funny
9:24 III
God the second movement hits so hard
Im assuming the saxophone music is in concert pitch rn cause there no way we playing low gs like that
it’s concert pitch (probably for the pianists sake) lol
i a sax player relate to this
Who's playing
Eugene Rousseau
Браво! А кто исполняет это произведение?
Eugene Roussau
Спасибо! Уже нашла)
I love this perf. but it doesn't seem to match up from the dynamics markings from the score at all??
ur wrong
伴奏クソむずだけど楽しかったやつ
Who is performing?
I think its Arno Borkamp
It's Eugene Rousseau, from his album Saxophone Masterpieces tracks 1-3. Would be nice if the guy that ran this channel attributed the actual artist, but I'm guessing he doesn't have copyright permission.
8:10
How do you play the Low G that’s written
Shane Saltus It's in concert pitch on that score. On Alto, that would actually be E without octave key (last line on the staff)
The alto sax part is written an octave lower?
Erin Faldon it’s in concert pitch so the a above the staff is the highest F#.
@@jacobbass6226 why
Cole Reed many reasons. It’s standard solo writing for the Sax. It helps to keep the ungodly high notes within the staves. If you get good you can even read concert pitch.
Cole Reed it’s also meant for the piano players if they need to help the Sax part.
@@jacobbass6226 I can't transpose worth shit I've been playing alto for 6 years and I'm confused on how someone learns to do this. it overwrites what you already know and seem like if you do it to much it would ruin your normal sight reading
Man I want to play this one so bad
I'm accompanying this for this first time in a few weeks. For all the difficulty pianists seem to attribute to this sonata, it seems pretty fake-able lol and not too bad
You can learn a great deal from bis rhytm treaty
Who is the soloist?
Brann Don I believe it’s is Eugene Rousseau
it's a sonata for saxophone and piano, there is no soloist
@@niinaranta3014 The piano isn't the main instrument in this piece though. In a concerto, there is a soloist even though there is an entire orchestra behind them. E.g. Mozart clarinet concerto: the soloist is a clarinet, which is backed by the orchestra. The saxophone is the soloist in this piece.
Royal Goodness Bitch, are you fucking stupid?
In music, a solo (from the Italian: solo, meaning alone) is a piece or a section of a piece played or sung featuring a single performer, who may be performing completely alone or supported by an accompanying instrument such as a piano or organ, a continuo group (in Baroque music), or the rest of a choir, orchestra, band, or other ensemble.
I’m sorry I think you guys misunderstood his question(except dallassax)
Who is the saxophonist on this? Just curious.
This is E. Rousseau playing, not sure about the pianist
@@CarplaysI love his sound.
Creston concerto coming soon?
Sportif à l'alto et au piano !
4:51 9:25
theres a transposed score for sax on imslp
Not in the US.
4:48
Alguien podría decime quiénes son los intérpretes?
El saxofonista es Eugene Rousseau y la pianista es Jaromir Klepac. Nadie lo había averiguado hasta ahora, osea espero que esto resuelva sus problemas.👍
May I ask you if you get reclamations for these videos? I have a TH-cam channel and I get reclamations everytime I create a video where I play even 20seconds of music! Even with the permission of the musicians! So I wonder if you have the same problem! Best regards and thank you very much for this video!
Καλώς μας ξανάρθες!
2:01 lmfao ok dude. Not so subtle reference lol
What
Very good! Who are the players?
Eugene Rousseau is on AS. Unsure of the pianist.
9:25 3 часть
Low A?
Just Kaleb oof
Just Kaleb concert pitch
Bro I saw an f below the staff
Who is the saxophonist?
Eugene Rousseau
@@andyk6767 thank you
Start of part 2, 8:08
Nice.
Sounds jazzy or is just me?
Listen to this recording of it th-cam.com/video/17mhZ8rIv2Y/w-d-xo.html
A lot of people tend to get "jazzy" feels from anything that features an alto sax which is just instrumental bias.
@@Eorzat dont forget harmony
Diego Satori I didn’t forget harmony. People put WAY too much emphasis on harmony. Like anything that has a maj7 chord and some extended harmony gets labeled as “jazzy” which is ridiculous and completely discredits a lot of what Jazz actually is. Also, this was composed/released in 1939. Practically every composer was using harmony like this if not more radical during this time not to mention that this kind of harmony predates Jazz to begin with.
I would say the first two measures, with their chromatic motion dominant seven chords, would not be out of place, harmonically, in a Duke Ellington composition.
Poor piano player
Is he londaix
Eugene Rousseau
Playing this for tenth grade masterclass. Oop
bro goodluck big dawg
Can't get past the fact that there's no time signature for the sax >:(
Most of it is in 4/4 time.
Sorry, but this is impossible
No it isn't, though it is ridiculously hard for the pianist. The sax part on this is written in concert pitch
I'm playing movement one this year. But how tf is a saxophone gonna play low g. You can tell this isn't a bari playing and an alto isn't playing low g or low a man.
The part shown on screen is the piano part so it is in concert pitch. The saxophone part for this is written a fourth above that
Lucas Mariotti 6th above or 3rd below not a fourth lololol but u got the idea :p
クラリネットで耳コピできないかなーとか考えてたあの当時の俺を殴りたい
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So this isn’t right lol at all. There’s no low A on alto sax and the actual score seems as if he’s playing it an octave up. Like what?!!!!
RyanRocker321 Its written at concert pitch, so it’s written a concert A but is actually an F# on saxophone
It’s also not technically that complex
And does the music sound worse because of that?
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