That's impressive work by these guys to restore this incredible machine. It's actually a pretty fancy motor for something that's 100 years old. That tank was the first modern tank and it ended Germany's hope of winning the war in 1918. Good work fellas.
The tank had little effect on winning the war, Germany as a nation was exhausted and was loosing on every front, the soldiers were starving, their families at home were starving, Germany was running out of resources, their farms were having production issues, maintaining millions of soldiers is no easy task, also Germany was running out of young men to fight the war. The tanks did prove the future was gonna be armoured warfare but had very little impact on truly ending the conflict.
Great video explained with no frills but comprehensively. I am astonished at the advanced French engineering particularly metallurgy - fusion of aluminium, brass and cast iron remarkable.
We recently had a 2500 original mile 1922 Olds Super Sport V8 in for service which also had an Aluminum Engine Block and cast cylinders. Pretty neat cast at the BOHN foundry in detroit.
Brisco Llama gas rc boats do useba diaphragm type fuel pump but it's actually part of the carburetor. The water pump on a gas rc boat is alot like the fuel pump on this tank engine in that it uses crank case pulses to actuate a (rubber) diaphragm and it is not part of the engine...it's usually mounted to the stringers.
Awesome !!!! Perhaps you know already, but guys at the Saumur Museum who were working restoring a FT17 realize that the gearbox of the T34 is an exact copy of the one of the FT17, only scaled up. This is why on later T34 models the 4 gears original T34 gearbox got modernized with intermediate gears.
Thank you so much. I've been looking for a transmission to match a replica I'll be building. I've been working on finding the transmission for 2 years. Thank you
Do you know the reason for an aluminum block? For an aircraft engine I can see but a light tank? The only benefit I can see is that the engine would run cooler than cast iron block,
cartmanrlsusall You where not supposed to crank start is in the middle of the battle though. It was designed to cross the no man's land between the french and german tranches. It was quite a static style of warfare.
The Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome has an excellent M1917 Light tank which was the US version of the FT. There are several nice M1917 in the states. Our tank, however, is an original French FT.
At 0:23-0:24 you state it is the "only running one in North America". Did your tank belong at one time to Mr. Hayes Otoupalik of Missoula, MT? If not, there are at least two (2) running FT-17 tanks.
Hayes Otoupalik has an excellent M1917 Light tank which was the US version of the FT. There are several nice M1917 in the states. Our tank, however, is an original French FT. There are several specific differences between the M1917 and the FT.
@@harpomarx7777 on many engines up to the 30's was cylinder and cylinder head in one piece, was for example the case for all the Bugatti engines, was more difficult to built but avoid each head gasket problems who was a very usual issue...
That would be a side valve engine. Not really very big to push 17 tons of tank up a steep hill. It is a shame there is no footage of the rebuild, I would love to see the engine opened up.
Leaded fuel is a waste of time in this engine as leaded fuel only became available in the 1930s (15 years after this was built). Straight run unleaded would be better for an engine designed to run on 68 octane.
I cannot see a valve cover on any other FT Renault engine anywhere else. All others have exposed valves. Is this valve cover a fabricated modification for your engine?
look at any renault of the era, they used alloy cases on their cars too. 1915 renault 10cv for example. And in 1919 the torpedo . the engine was just a simple easily made design. Lots of European stuff that age was alloy or mag alloy
Renault used their existing truck engine for the FT and aluminum was actually a fairly common material for early engine and transmission cases because it had such ideal properties for what were essentially hollow boxes filled with oil that made it worth the expense. In a T-head engines like this one there is no block to speak of as the entire cylinder and all of the water passages were inside the cast iron head which meant no there was no need for gaskets and the engine case was just a bed you bolted the self-contained cylinders onto combined with a box for the oil and twirly bits. The Wisconsin A series T-head used in many US army trucks of that era had roughly the same HP and displacement and also used an aluminum case.
Don’t know what happened to the French they used to be innovative. But after WWll they kind of melted down in a collective guilt. We owe them for helping out with the British during the revolution. Sure wouldn’t want to be in it if it caught on fire. Diesel would have been nice but can you imagine hand cranking a diesel?
You forgott that France was invaded and plundered from the nazis =many machining machinery and high value equipments was send to germany ...GB not, and the USA did never see a enemy or bomb on he's territory (except far pacific islands)...thats the difference...WW2 tanks did all use gasoline...except in soviet union and a limited number of Sherman...Light diesel engine did not exists in 1917, the first french automobile diesel was made in 1933 from Citroën for a small number of Rosalie 11UD...Crank a diesel is possible (is use on some tractors) but need a decompressor valve
so nice to see these old motors being cared for :)
It is amazing that an engine over 100 years old can still function.
Great job in restoring this piece of history.
The best sounding 4 cylinder I've ever heard. Keep up the good work.
that sound is because of the short exhaust pipe
a 3 cylinder chevy sprint with no muffler actually sound pretty badass.
That's impressive work by these guys to restore this incredible machine. It's actually a pretty fancy motor for something that's 100 years old. That tank was the first modern tank and it ended Germany's hope of winning the war in 1918. Good work fellas.
It's an "engine" ... not a "motor".
The tank had little effect on winning the war, Germany as a nation was exhausted and was loosing on every front, the soldiers were starving, their families at home were starving, Germany was running out of resources, their farms were having production issues, maintaining millions of soldiers is no easy task, also Germany was running out of young men to fight the war.
The tanks did prove the future was gonna be armoured warfare but had very little impact on truly ending the conflict.
Great video explained with no frills but comprehensively. I am astonished at the advanced French engineering particularly metallurgy - fusion of aluminium, brass and cast iron remarkable.
I'm amazed there was no blue smoke from the exhaust. Top engine work.
Magnificent. I haven't seen this tank complete, only saw it years ago before restoration. It is amazing you have restored the original French engine.
i am french and i thank you . Keep on the good work !
We recently had a 2500 original mile 1922 Olds Super Sport V8 in for service which also had an Aluminum Engine Block and cast cylinders. Pretty neat cast at the BOHN foundry in detroit.
Really cool you did a great job. I cant wait to see it in the tank. Something else
I really like the expertise of the guy doing this. Thanks!
Beautiful engine and great restoration work!
Beautifull little machine and great presentation!
Bon travail de restauration et excellente vidéo explicative Merci
That carburetor float is so satisfying
Nice work guys. Next time I'm in Texas, I'll make sure to stop by and see it in person. :)
How is this one the only running one in north America? Hayes Autopolik has owned one for years. It was even on Mail Call
Outstanding Job, hope to see the whole tank up and running soon.
I would love to see videos of the transmission workings and or differential set-up.
I think gasoline RC boats use a similar fuel pump. Interesting. Enjoyed the video. Nice restoration. Sounds great.
Brisco Llama gas rc boats do useba diaphragm type fuel pump but it's actually part of the carburetor. The water pump on a gas rc boat is alot like the fuel pump on this tank engine in that it uses crank case pulses to actuate a (rubber) diaphragm and it is not part of the engine...it's usually mounted to the stringers.
Outstanding! Keep up the good work guys!
Very simple but well done test stand.
Outstanding work!
Awesome !!!! Perhaps you know already, but guys at the Saumur Museum who were working restoring a FT17 realize that the gearbox of the T34 is an exact copy of the one of the FT17, only scaled up. This is why on later T34 models the 4 gears original T34 gearbox got modernized with intermediate gears.
Thank you so much. I've been looking for a transmission to match a replica I'll be building. I've been working on finding the transmission for 2 years. Thank you
Renault use the exact same engine in their GP cars today.
Except with less bhp in their F1 cars
said le con d'anglais
That's why they use it in a war. Something what they use in a war has to be good....
What a great job
Can you post some specifications like bore and stroke, how many main bearings, approx. horsepower, etc. ?
Do you know the reason for an aluminum block? For an aircraft engine I can see but a light tank? The only benefit I can see is that the engine would run cooler than cast iron block,
Well done!!!
Too cool Bent. Thanks for sharing.
Great video! Thanks for sharing! :)
beautiful
No water pump? Convection cooling? Like an early model T Ford.
Would anyone know where I'd be able to get specifications for the transmission
When you have more than 1 liter per cylinder
What is the torque on that engine ?
Very cool video, but the guy who cranked it it lucky! Never wrap you hand/thumb around a crank!
Very simple and nice designed engine just saying
Thanks a lot to have save it
Why you running that fast....?
Were these engines used in tractors originally?
imagine trying to prime and then hand crank that thing in the rain or while under fire, people were a lot tougher 100 years ago
cartmanrlsusall You where not supposed to crank start is in the middle of the battle though. It was designed to cross the no man's land between the french and german tranches. It was quite a static style of warfare.
this or other way the people were indeed absolutely tougher than us today
And you must open whole front section of hull to get out, and front is usually towards enemy lines.
What is the bore and stroke if I might ask. I'd love to see the crank and bearings. Were they cast babbit? Is the end play set with thrusts?
There is one in running condition in Rhinebeck, NY.
The Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome has an excellent M1917 Light tank which was the US version of the FT. There are several nice M1917 in the states. Our tank, however, is an original French FT.
The Museum of the American GI
Love it
You need avoiding gas because of the lead? I thought lead was added in the 1930s.
yes no lead in ww1 and the octane level was very low, around 50
Where is the air intake?
At 0:23-0:24 you state it is the "only running one in North America". Did your tank belong at one time to Mr. Hayes Otoupalik of Missoula, MT? If not, there are at least two (2) running FT-17 tanks.
Hayes Otoupalik has an excellent M1917 Light tank which was the US version of the FT. There are several nice M1917 in the states. Our tank, however, is an original French FT. There are several specific differences between the M1917 and the FT.
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You mean my favorite tank is in my home state?
Very nice sounding engine. A good magneto is a wonderful thing. A poor one.......uhggg.
HP?
Litres??
How much power has ?
35hp
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You probably don't need avgas for a 1918 engine. Fuel quality was spotty in those days, anyhow.
In WW1 was no lead in the gasoline, and very low octane (around 50), lead was only introduced in 1921= AVGAS in such engine is overkill
What kind of power output?
only 35HP, but a lot of torque (the engine had 4.5 liter cubic)
Thanks. It sounds pretty good.
How would you maintain the valves on the engine if the head is one piece?
Valves are on the side. All you have are passages in the head.
@@harpomarx7777 on many engines up to the 30's was cylinder and cylinder head in one piece, was for example the case for all the Bugatti engines, was more difficult to built but avoid each head gasket problems who was a very usual issue...
That would be a side valve engine. Not really very big to push 17 tons of tank up a steep hill. It is a shame there is no footage of the rebuild, I would love to see the engine opened up.
No: FT17 means "1917", the weight was 6.7 tons
The name FT-17 was never used in World War One. It was more of a nickname given by historians after the war. It was simply just Renault FT.
the Renault FT was niknamed from the US troops "FT 17" because was launch in 1917: such thing is common in the USA ...
Do you have a source for this?
the weight was 6.7 tons (with canon) not 17...
6:59 they start it up
1 siècle après la bête rugis toujours !...
Leaded fuel is a waste of time in this engine as leaded fuel only became available in the 1930s (15 years after this was built). Straight run unleaded would be better for an engine designed to run on 68 octane.
I cannot see a valve cover on any other FT Renault engine anywhere else. All others have exposed valves. Is this valve cover a fabricated modification for your engine?
Only FT no ft17
Renault FT not Renault FT17
The tanks in American service were referred to as FT17
This had to have had automotive uses or else why would they lighten it with aluminum ?
Burt Hulbert To get better use of the weigh in the thickness of the armor plates rather than in the motor.
look at any renault of the era, they used alloy cases on their cars too.
1915 renault 10cv for example.
And in 1919 the torpedo .
the engine was just a simple easily made design. Lots of European stuff that age was alloy or mag alloy
Renault used their existing truck engine for the FT and aluminum was actually a fairly common material for early engine and transmission cases because it had such ideal properties for what were essentially hollow boxes filled with oil that made it worth the expense. In a T-head engines like this one there is no block to speak of as the entire cylinder and all of the water passages were inside the cast iron head which meant no there was no need for gaskets and the engine case was just a bed you bolted the self-contained cylinders onto combined with a box for the oil and twirly bits. The Wisconsin A series T-head used in many US army trucks of that era had roughly the same HP and displacement and also used an aluminum case.
It is much cooler if you ad a turbo
capacity of engine anyone;
4.5 litre
It's is the heart of the killers of millions
Don’t know what happened to the French they used to be innovative. But after WWll they kind of melted down in a collective guilt. We owe them for helping out with the British during the revolution. Sure wouldn’t want to be in it if it caught on fire. Diesel would have been nice but can you imagine hand cranking a diesel?
You forgott that France was invaded and plundered from the nazis =many machining machinery and high value equipments was send to germany ...GB not, and the USA did never see a enemy or bomb on he's territory (except far pacific islands)...thats the difference...WW2 tanks did all use gasoline...except in soviet union and a limited number of Sherman...Light diesel engine did not exists in 1917, the first french automobile diesel was made in 1933 from Citroën for a small number of Rosalie 11UD...Crank a diesel is possible (is use on some tractors) but need a decompressor valve
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