What I appreciate most about your videos is that your are not just putting out content to entertain, but to teach! Explaining your thought processes and the WHY you do things is truly appreciated - we are all the better for it!
i think these limited meta great league cups are my favorite part of go battle league. they're always so fun, and it's awesome to get to play great league without azu/gfisk on every team.
Niantic: We're releasing three varieties of Master League this season! You'll have Classic, Normal, and Premiere Cup! Make sure you join in the battles and ascend in ranking!! Zyonik: hahaha holiday cup go brrr
Agreed. Shadow Razor leafers need a rework. Thought I was headed for a 5-0 on my final set. Had my frosslass 2/3 health with a shield, opponent had a full health shadow victreebell in the back with a shield and I barely couldn’t get to the second avalanche...
I'm gonna try this team. Yesterday I was running Talonflame on the lead and I landed a couple of Brave Birds on some Alolan Marowaks. IT WAS AMAZING TO SEE. 😆
I ran this team as well last might for holiday cup. Expirimented with different types if safe swaps too like. Kinda liked bidoof for its ability to wall out alowak and tank hits from frosslass.
I came across someone using your team this morning! Exact same order. I am running a similar team myself, except I use my 100 iv sableye instead of vigaroth. Was able to beat him with two mons remaining. Awesome matchup and great content! As much as I am enjoying the holiday cup rn, could you possibly give some tips for classic master league? Would really appreciate a video on that. Thanks and keep it up!
Loving the holiday cup. I’m running an okay team. It’s a great dust builder. Haven’t invested yet in a diggersby as I have a rank 3. I’ve had decent matchups against froslass but still unable to get passed ace. My rating is too low to even have a shot at passing ace let alone reach legend. Your videos have helped but I’m still unable to master safe swaps and time swaps
Hey Zyonik, some time ago you said that you wanted to use the 15 13 15 Azu to win every mirror Azu match, now that Azu can become an XL pokemon in great league, are you still going to use the 15 13 15 or are you going to build a new XL/non xl but with better iv Azu?
I was running this same team right before you posted this video lol. I was switching it up, but ended with a decent winning streak with this exact lineup.
Awesome battles man great team love watching this channel! I didn’t play any in 2018/2019 so I don’t have the original stunfisk or the XL candy for diggersby but I finished my sets prior to watching this video with almost the same team using lanturn instead and gained about 200 points as well😎👍 froslass vs skarmory info was definitely helpful
I was struggling with doing well until I randomly put Bibarel on my team. It shouldn't work but it just does wonderfully. Probably because everyone and their mother are running Alolan Marowak, which it's an amazing counter to.
Experimenting with an "Icehole" team (Altaria, Abomasnow and Froslass). Lead with Altaria, other two are safe switches depending on the opposing lead. Objective is to crack shields, not so much win the lead (though it's still good to go for that), to pave way for either Ice types to wreak havoc. To anyone else using a similar set-up, how are you doing?
I was running this but the goon instead of stunfisk- makes it a tad weaker to altaria but I like the extra marowak/froslass deterrent/fighting fast moves
In the matchup vs wigglytuff (w frosslass) u can actually get to two avalanches if u deny the extra charm which either wins u switch along with shield advantage (1 to 2) or u get both of the shield from ur opponent
Ran today's sets with this squad. Started 1/5 in the first 2 sets. After learning what to do when, finished the day with 5/4/5 wins. Against A-Marowak opens, I would load up to Shadow Ball but use Avalanche. Even if I had to use a shield, I ended up with switch advantage after the Vigoroth safe swap almost every time.
I've been running frosslass, vigoroth and talonflame. Been playing around swapping frosslass with piloswine and no matter what it's a fun time, love the holiday cup!
Actually playing Masters Premiere with an XL Gyarados. Thinking of dumping some XL candy into Excadrill to burn steel with fast moves even quicker. Don’t have enough to max either but it still helps.
I'm having so much fun in the Holiday cup. I did two sets with the third team you suggested - Altarua, Alolan Marowak and Vigarot. I really want to try this team as well. Frosslass was the firs pokemon I invested in way back in season one on your recommendation ❤
You actually played the Awak lead 2 different ways Z. Which play is your preference, throw the shadow ball and duck like in game one or save the shadow ball and try catch the shadow bone like in the 2nd game?
I’ve been playing pokemon go since July 2020 - I’d like to say my 7 year old is the reason, but let’s be honest.... Zyonik has been almost daily viewing to help level up the battling know-how. Typically I win just over 50%. Imagine my shame at 2 wins in 15 battles in the Holiday Cup. But today, watching this video I’m 13 wins from 15. Because I’m new, I don’t have my Slakoth candy, so swapped in Obstagoon. Some matches have been a 2+ pokemon sweep by the super spammy ‘Goon. Thanks Zyonik!!!
Ohh I was gonna run this but my stardust is non existent and I don’t have anything to play on. My tablet smashed and my phones trash. Have you had a lot of snow these last two days?
First time ever commenting. IMO you need to be a skilled battler to run this team. Watched the vid. Invested. Won 4 out of 25. Sometimes think these content creators most of us are no where near their level.
at least you know it's you and not the team you're using, what are the content creators supposed to do? They're showing us the most effective teams and zyonik often explains everything at thr end of a video. Practice and get better
I started with a team of Vigoroth with Drifblim (SS) and Froslass. The idea was to use Drifblim to draw out the electric/rocks/Obstagoons so that Froslass can sweep in the back. Drifblim is also the hardest thing for a SS Vigoroth to deal with - absolutely neutralizes it Will try out this team as well - planned on using Stunfisk instead of Vigoroth lead in my team. What do you think about giving Vigoroth Brick Break instead of Bulldoze?
Bro I watched your other two Holliday Cup vids yesterday, spent a couple hours last night on PvPoke tryna craft the best team I could. Ended up spending a ton of dust on Fros/Stun/Vig and used up all my battles last night- it SLAYS. Then today you drop this?? Guess your other two vids did the trick for me! :D
This team looks like so much fun! Quick question, when you say clearing that debuff, does switching out remove any positive effects on attack or defense?
Yep! Removes positive and negative effects! So the icy wind from dewgong gave me negative attack, by swapping out I can clear it and come back in to hit normal damage.
I do not have a lot of things in the meta like altaria or anything u used in this video so i wanna hear ur thoughts on my current team which is Shiftry, Skarmory, and Gengar. It's very bad but that is what i have to run with :(
Having shiftry is not a good idea Cause too many flyers and ice types are around Alo merowak and wigglytuff also And now event is going so maybe catching some snorunt and making a froslass would be great idea
That is indeed a pretty solid team!! I’ve been running Altaria A-Wak and Froslass doing just fine. Main issue is A-Graveler but it’s still playable fairly well.
28:38 You touched "Mud Bomb" and didn't overtap; at the same moment, he does one more Fire Spin and then "Charge Move Prioriti-es" your Stunfisk's Mud Bomb... Quite fair, Niantic, quite fair...
I've been running froslass and HF A-wak as my core, and flipping the third around with whatever seems to be popping up, and doing great. I want to try a Vigoroth, but I need like 10 more candies. So close.
Got 4/1 with altaria/diggersby/lanturn and it is so hard to counter ice type. Any suggestion to counter ice pokemon in holiday cup ? I might try alolan graveler later.
I try my best during event's to catch Pokémon that I want to use in GBL. But if I don't have many options, I use the best I have and will replace it later after I get a better one and have excess resources to replace.
Hey Man just try DIGGERSBY with firePunch , earthquake , NINETALES with Charm , Psyhook , and At the end ALTARIA with Sky attack , Dazzling glem Its really a goodteam ive Gone 10 -2 with this team so farr❤️
I want you to try a pokemon with one weakness, being fairy(that isnt sableye) SPIRITOMB! I tried it in PvP and it actually did pretty well, i ran the moveset of Feint attack, Shadow ball and did well against pokemon like Drifblim, Froslass, Alola Raichu, And stuff like that
I was looking for a frosslass team, and this has given me some inspiration. But only after a few days, because 'everyone' will be copying you now! Right now I'm on a roll with a rather cheesy Shadow-Aerodactly; double charmer team.
lol i dont have regular stunfisk and i dont have vigoroth in my pokedex and im doing almost every time 5-0 rank 20 rating 1500 with lapras-forst breath/surf,altaria dragon breath and sky attack and alolan raichu with volt switch grass knot and wild charge=almost one shots skarmory,lapras and many more
Happy Holiday's Battlers! Man, feels good to be back in Great League right!?
Happy holidays Z
Yep
Lag league
I loved the extra rewards. Paid my investments for holiday cup in one day!
Feels even better that we don’t have to do master league at all!
The pancake just dancing away on the team screen is what I needed today lol
I knew it would bring someone joy :)
hahahaha
What I appreciate most about your videos is that your are not just putting out content to entertain, but to teach! Explaining your thought processes and the WHY you do things is truly appreciated - we are all the better for it!
i think these limited meta great league cups are my favorite part of go battle league. they're always so fun, and it's awesome to get to play great league without azu/gfisk on every team.
Niantic: We're releasing three varieties of Master League this season! You'll have Classic, Normal, and Premiere Cup! Make sure you join in the battles and ascend in ranking!!
Zyonik: hahaha holiday cup go brrr
Confirmed
Stay away from master league unless its classic open, spoofers are running the others right now with cp 3900 gyarados and other level 50s
@@pat1263 I'm not a spoofer I have 2 level 50 Pokemon too
@@pat1263 bruh, Magikarp just had a CD
@@RajeshKK72 yeah but magikarps werent spawning enough to fully max out a level 50 gyarados. and level 50 wasnt out for the original com day.
It's crazy how much I overcompensated for Altaria - running Alolan Graveler, Froslass, and Wigglytuff lol
Bro this team is OP
A team with vigoroth and alolan marowak will give you a headache
@@godzillapgo6647 yup
But thanks Mario for suggesting this team I am using it 😀😀
I also overconpensated for altaria lol. I use alolan marowak, lapras, and alolan sandslash. Vigoroths and obstagoons scare me
Dude, saw your coaching sessions on Twitch. Highly entertaining. Good stuff.
Frosslass with a shield advantage is almost a guaranteed win
*Shadow Vic has entered the chat*
Agreed. Shadow Razor leafers need a rework. Thought I was headed for a 5-0 on my final set. Had my frosslass 2/3 health with a shield, opponent had a full health shadow victreebell in the back with a shield and I barely couldn’t get to the second avalanche...
@@michaeljordan7412 yeah Vic beats frostlass with one shield
@@michaeljordan7412 Dragon Breath Dialga is proud now
I'm gonna try this team. Yesterday I was running Talonflame on the lead and I landed a couple of Brave Birds on some Alolan Marowaks. IT WAS AMAZING TO SEE. 😆
Brave Birding something after a Flame Charge boost is so good. Boom.
@@falcon5747 That's what I'm talking about 🧨
Atlast reached rank 20 thanks dude u r teams helped me a lot
I ran this team as well last might for holiday cup. Expirimented with different types if safe swaps too like. Kinda liked bidoof for its ability to wall out alowak and tank hits from frosslass.
I came across someone using your team this morning! Exact same order. I am running a similar team myself, except I use my 100 iv sableye instead of vigaroth. Was able to beat him with two mons remaining. Awesome matchup and great content! As much as I am enjoying the holiday cup rn, could you possibly give some tips for classic master league? Would really appreciate a video on that. Thanks and keep it up!
That dancing pancake though 😄
Loving the holiday cup. I’m running an okay team. It’s a great dust builder. Haven’t invested yet in a diggersby as I have a rank 3. I’ve had decent matchups against froslass but still unable to get passed ace. My rating is too low to even have a shot at passing ace let alone reach legend. Your videos have helped but I’m still unable to master safe swaps and time swaps
I'm here a year later and the holiday cup meta hasn't changed since this video came out last year
Hey Zyonik, some time ago you said that you wanted to use the 15 13 15 Azu to win every mirror Azu match, now that Azu can become an XL pokemon in great league, are you still going to use the 15 13 15 or are you going to build a new XL/non xl but with better iv Azu?
I was running this same team right before you posted this video lol. I was switching it up, but ended with a decent winning streak with this exact lineup.
Awesome battles man great team love watching this channel! I didn’t play any in 2018/2019 so I don’t have the original stunfisk or the XL candy for diggersby but I finished my sets prior to watching this video with almost the same team using lanturn instead and gained about 200 points as well😎👍 froslass vs skarmory info was definitely helpful
I was struggling with doing well until I randomly put Bibarel on my team. It shouldn't work but it just does wonderfully. Probably because everyone and their mother are running Alolan Marowak, which it's an amazing counter to.
Experimenting with an "Icehole" team (Altaria, Abomasnow and Froslass).
Lead with Altaria, other two are safe switches depending on the opposing lead. Objective is to crack shields, not so much win the lead (though it's still good to go for that), to pave way for either Ice types to wreak havoc.
To anyone else using a similar set-up, how are you doing?
Omg this is the exact team I’m running! I lead with Stunfisk though, this is truly an awesome team!
Same, but I run the Thundershock Stunfisk and I lead Vig.
I was running this but the goon instead of stunfisk- makes it a tad weaker to altaria but I like the extra marowak/froslass deterrent/fighting fast moves
Awesome and useful content. I love this team. Q: How would u handle a driftblim in the back?
hey zyonik can we use alolan graveler/awak/froslass in holiday cup?
In the matchup vs wigglytuff (w frosslass) u can actually get to two avalanches if u deny the extra charm which either wins u switch along with shield advantage (1 to 2) or u get both of the shield from ur opponent
Ive been using bibarel as a safe swap to cover my altaria and it has been really good
i’m using registeel, medicham and empoleon as my great league team, which pokemon should lead?
Ran today's sets with this squad. Started 1/5 in the first 2 sets. After learning what to do when, finished the day with 5/4/5 wins.
Against A-Marowak opens, I would load up to Shadow Ball but use Avalanche. Even if I had to use a shield, I ended up with switch advantage after the Vigoroth safe swap almost every time.
I've been running frosslass, vigoroth and talonflame. Been playing around swapping frosslass with piloswine and no matter what it's a fun time, love the holiday cup!
How come you have that snow background during battle?
Because it’s snowing where he lives
I'd be curious to see the battles with this team that you lose and to hear about what you learned from them.
Actually playing Masters Premiere with an XL Gyarados. Thinking of dumping some XL candy into Excadrill to burn steel with fast moves even quicker. Don’t have enough to max either but it still helps.
Actually I m trying to save resource during holiday cup to improve my ultra premier cup roaster.
I have an 2 15 15 froslass,, do you think that it's going to make a big diference in battles??
Why do you decide to use mud shot instead of thundershock on Stunfisk?
I'm having so much fun in the Holiday cup. I did two sets with the third team you suggested - Altarua, Alolan Marowak and Vigarot. I really want to try this team as well. Frosslass was the firs pokemon I invested in way back in season one on your recommendation ❤
You actually played the Awak lead 2 different ways Z.
Which play is your preference, throw the shadow ball and duck like in game one or save the shadow ball and try catch the shadow bone like in the 2nd game?
I’ve been playing pokemon go since July 2020 - I’d like to say my 7 year old is the reason, but let’s be honest.... Zyonik has been almost daily viewing to help level up the battling know-how. Typically I win just over 50%. Imagine my shame at 2 wins in 15 battles in the Holiday Cup. But today, watching this video I’m 13 wins from 15. Because I’m new, I don’t have my Slakoth candy, so swapped in Obstagoon. Some matches have been a 2+ pokemon sweep by the super spammy ‘Goon. Thanks Zyonik!!!
Ohh I was gonna run this but my stardust is non existent and I don’t have anything to play on. My tablet smashed and my phones trash. Have you had a lot of snow these last two days?
First time ever commenting. IMO you need to be a skilled battler to run this team. Watched the vid. Invested. Won 4 out of 25. Sometimes think these content creators most of us are no where near their level.
at least you know it's you and not the team you're using, what are the content creators supposed to do? They're showing us the most effective teams and zyonik often explains everything at thr end of a video. Practice and get better
I was expecting to play a drinking game where I’d take a sip for each leading Altaria you’d face.
I find that Master League’s really small meta makes it the easiest for me to climb in. Hoping to climb some more then play in the Holiday Cup too!
I've been running DIggersby, Togekiss, and Vigoroth..fun little combination, anything that has a good damage mon and Vigoroth to tank stuff is crazy.
Isn't 0/15/15 froslass better compare with 10/8/14 froslass you are using? @zyonik🤔
I don't have vigoroth. Can I substitute it with obstagoon?
How can I get a stunkfisk? I rlly need one I already powered up frosslass and vigoroth I don’t have stunkfisk so I’m runnning altaria instead
Zyonik can we use awak instead of stunfisk?
I'd suggest Stunfisk/DIggersby/Alolan Graveler
@@ZyoniK Thanks a lot man,I appreciate your reply!
Love the dancing pancake on the team screen. lol
I used a charged tm on my vigoroth to get body spam to spam but mine takes forever why
Hi! I just wanted to understand why you are picking champs with 1/15/15 for example compared with a 15/15/15. Thanks!
I started with a team of Vigoroth with Drifblim (SS) and Froslass. The idea was to use Drifblim to draw out the electric/rocks/Obstagoons so that Froslass can sweep in the back. Drifblim is also the hardest thing for a SS Vigoroth to deal with - absolutely neutralizes it
Will try out this team as well - planned on using Stunfisk instead of Vigoroth lead in my team.
What do you think about giving Vigoroth Brick Break instead of Bulldoze?
Bro I watched your other two Holliday Cup vids yesterday, spent a couple hours last night on PvPoke tryna craft the best team I could. Ended up spending a ton of dust on Fros/Stun/Vig and used up all my battles last night- it SLAYS. Then today you drop this?? Guess your other two vids did the trick for me! :D
Ayyy congrats!! Such a fun team 💪
Some times you win leads. Sometimes you win swap ins too. Spoken like a true champion!
This team looks like so much fun! Quick question, when you say clearing that debuff, does switching out remove any positive effects on attack or defense?
Yep! Removes positive and negative effects! So the icy wind from dewgong gave me negative attack, by swapping out I can clear it and come back in to hit normal damage.
Agreed this team is really strong! Excellent team for energy management. This has helped me climb out of a rut. Thanks
I do not have a lot of things in the meta like altaria or anything u used in this video so i wanna hear ur thoughts on my current team which is Shiftry, Skarmory, and Gengar. It's very bad but that is what i have to run with :(
Having shiftry is not a good idea
Cause too many flyers and ice types are around
Alo merowak and wigglytuff also
And now event is going so maybe catching some snorunt and making a froslass would be great idea
@@nazmussakib360 ok I’ll probably do that, thanks for the advice
Thinking about it now my team is pretty similar in terms of typing. Awok, galvantula, and wigglytough with awok in the lead and wiggly as my safeswap.
Bruh! YOU HAVE A 1/15/15 STUNFISK , U KIDDING ME?
SO GOOD PVP IVs
Thank You For The Amazing Content ZyoniK!😊👍
I have the exact same IV Stunfisk haha I was surprised to see it!
Abomasnow
Lapras with Water gun
Wigglytuff
I love this cup
Thanks for guides Zyonik
Can we substitute stunfisk with some other pokemon?
I’ve been running Mawowak, Vigoroth and Dewgong. They’ve been tearing it up in the Holiday Cup.
How do you get a pokemon below 1500cp XL? This is very confusing to me.
That is indeed a pretty solid team!!
I’ve been running Altaria A-Wak and Froslass doing just fine. Main issue is A-Graveler but it’s still playable fairly well.
Can I use obstagoon instead of vigoroth? Pls comment
I use guarados. 1483
Dragon breath- crunch/aquatail
Raichu- 1478 volt switch-brick break/thunder punch
Sceptile- seed bomb- leaf blade/ dragon claw
Why do you want a low attack for pvp IVs
28:38
You touched "Mud Bomb" and didn't overtap; at the same moment, he does one more Fire Spin and then "Charge Move Prioriti-es" your Stunfisk's Mud Bomb... Quite fair, Niantic, quite fair...
Finally! I've been waiting for this!
I feel like I'm totally unprepared for a cup until I see your videos on it 😅
I don't have vigoroth any alternatives for stunsfick and vigoroth. I need to win with the Pokemon i have
I hate stunfisk so much, it’s annoying 😂.
I like 1 shotting them with Hydro Cannon
I played today with honchkrow lead abomasnow and alolan marowak. The honchkrow performed pretty well tbh
I've been running froslass and HF A-wak as my core, and flipping the third around with whatever seems to be popping up, and doing great. I want to try a Vigoroth, but I need like 10 more candies. So close.
Best team I've seen til now! Thanks ZyoniK as always
I can't get discharge or mud bomb on my stunfisk!
The stunfisk : WIGGLE WIGGLE WIGGLE
I’ve been running Altaria, Lanturn, Froslass. After 25 games I’ve only lost twice
Even though I don’t have Bulldoze on my Vigoroth, A-waks still shield the body slams in fear. Save on dust and still achieve the meta
Got 4/1 with altaria/diggersby/lanturn and it is so hard to counter ice type. Any suggestion to counter ice pokemon in holiday cup ? I might try alolan graveler later.
The goat, alolan Marowak
Use steel wing skarmory
Hey do you farm for Iv's or do you use whatever?
I try my best during event's to catch Pokémon that I want to use in GBL. But if I don't have many options, I use the best I have and will replace it later after I get a better one and have excess resources to replace.
@@ZyoniK got it thanks :) i do the same but I try trading everything with my brother also for the lucky trade
I use Alolan marowak with golbat with poison fang to counter the charmers and a charm ninetails in the back, it’s insane
Thank you! I made a counter team and ran into NOTHING but this team or some sort of compromise typing of this team. Easy 300ish elo gain tonight.
Great content and presentation as always. Thanks Daddy Z
Hey Zyonik how do I submit battles to you? I may want to submit battles in the future
Links in the description of my videos :)
@@ZyoniK thanks dude
You faced my team Obstagoon, Wigglytuff and AMarowak :) got very good results with it
I went up against an obstagoon and it got double boosted back to back. My final Pokémon was a snorlax and it got walled with cross chop
Has anyone ever thrown a charge move while the opponent switches and they neither use a shield or take damage from the charge move?
I've encountered this team about 5-6t times, honestly it gave me trouble, but never lost to it :D Galvantual, Obstagoon, Shadow Charizard !
Great video I’ve been running shadow aerodactyl, vigoroth and awak went 5-0 on my first set
Great team and great vid!
Awesome bro, keep like this
Hey Man just try DIGGERSBY with firePunch , earthquake , NINETALES with Charm , Psyhook , and At the end ALTARIA with Sky attack , Dazzling glem
Its really a goodteam ive Gone 10 -2 with this team so farr❤️
I can't even concentrate on your battles because of that Stunfisk🤣 so cute
Been facing this and beating with diggersby froslass and obstagoon just depends on what you got matched with
I want you to try a pokemon with one weakness, being fairy(that isnt sableye) SPIRITOMB! I tried it in PvP and it actually did pretty well, i ran the moveset of Feint attack, Shadow ball and did well against pokemon like Drifblim, Froslass, Alola Raichu, And stuff like that
Frosslass is a beast and I'm sad other people are catching on to her, lol.
I was looking for a frosslass team, and this has given me some inspiration. But only after a few days, because 'everyone' will be copying you now!
Right now I'm on a roll with a rather cheesy Shadow-Aerodactly; double charmer team.
Z guess what? This team is still working good 😜 Saw this video today, went 22/25 with this team.
I wanna run gyrados, vigorath, and frostlass is that a good lineup
lol i dont have regular stunfisk and i dont have vigoroth in my pokedex and im doing almost every time 5-0 rank 20 rating 1500 with lapras-forst breath/surf,altaria dragon breath and sky attack and alolan raichu with volt switch grass knot and wild charge=almost one shots skarmory,lapras and many more
i can film some vids i you want to show this team its so powerfull
I have the same team, but was going to run it tomorrow. But now it may be better to look at a team that counters this...lol
How far do I have to go to get a elit TM? This season
You get one at rank 19, I'd suggest getting to 20 for end of season rewards:)
@@ZyoniK thank you