FC 25 - January Shadow Patch? - Did they actually shadow patch the game wtf is going on?
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- FC 25 - January Shadow Patch? - Did they actually shadow patch the game wtf is going on?
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I do belive it is a shadow patch, I dont play online UT, strictly career mode. After the patch the gameplay was very good, you could get in behind the defenders and break down the opponent with passing. Now my players dont make the same runs, often in offside and the passing is horrible. This is against only the AI since its career mode, and no human, so that people are adapting is just idiotic.
100% true , these youtubers talk rubbish its so blatenly obvious difference is night and day, its even worse today non interceptions and shit passing
The game absolutely sucks yet again
Bro if you played the 3 or 4 days just after the patch release you know there has been a shadow patch and people forgot the servers were down last week and don’t remember the day but after that the game was not the same for me
i did, i play everyday testing things out hours every single day, 365 days a year, even on Christmas, business is business
the servers went doen couple days ago
@@mckickzukAnd? That means nothing. Servera go down several times a year, paranoia will destroy ya.....
You're a clown
@ thats when I noticed a significant change in gameplay. I’m either pumping 5 goals in the first 20 mins or they are scoring 5 goals in the first 20 mins gameplay
It feels very different, I’ve stopped playing. FC 25 needs a competitor. They getting away with doing dumb shit!
Grow up
if he needs to grow up, then you maybe need to not be a EA bootlicker?
@@gobucks2k3 how you telling me to grow up? Are you dumb or something? This game is taking the absolute p1ss out of all of its users! Especially the ones who spend money to play with it, They are mixing both genders into a game whereby the real life stats definitely display a different story. less than 1% of football fans go to watch women’s football! why is the game so adamant to make it seem like women play an equal part in the football industry. Why is it that either after grafting out an objective or paying with our own hard earnt money do we get packs of female footballers that are allegedly 90+. How can you have justify that some woman footballers are 90+ whilst R9 is 90? How can you have semi mediocre players such as Onana who are crap in their own original position but then you have a RW card for them? How can you make J Bamford a 88 card when they geezer aint even played for the Leeds first team in the championship the whole season? This game is all about utilising the Sweat, Tears, Triumphs, Heartbreaks of the best historic footballers and attaching them to some alternate reality of football onto its users. When we open a pack we should be at least given a choice between a female or a male footballer? Nope! You pay 3500 FC Points and you end up with some woman footballers who you’ve never heard of playing at Bayern! Not once but three times! Or you do finally hit a toty player and she is some female german goalkeeper who you didnt even know was that good but the game wants you to believe she is on par or even better than Prime Casilias.
I’m all for the development of both genders side of football but stop forcing it onto us whilst we are paying for a game. You have a great playstyle gameplay system, utilise it by creating 2 separate games for each gender. Furthermore provide us the customer with CHOICE! thats what we deserve when we pay for something. Is that enough for you or do you want me to move onto the gameplay side of things? In this very instance, competition would be healthy because it would offer the opposite to what they are and then the customer demand will drive this specific gaming segment
It's not about people adapting,,even offline the game play us shit,,,when the patch came out I was playing against legendary AI and beat them now I can't even move the ball and that's is offline bro,,,they have done some fuck up job in it
Exactly it fucking shit😅
my only complaint is after the patch it’s literally games I’m doing skill moves and the controller is none responsive every time I have tons of videos and clips with my controller input on but game not responding is an issue now
Same happening w me
Same here with passes, skillmoves, shots, etc not registering, my players running when i have the finger off the right trigger, bad first touches, bounce balls, stuck in the mud while sprinting with quickstep etc, i even have a clip of me dribbling past everyone and wanted to walk into the goal and my player just stopped on the line and cleared it like he was defending for the opponent at 0-0.... I ended up losing that match big time. I know when im making mistakes, but sometimes the game makes them for you. Inconsistent gameplay, ea never sticking with it, bad pack outcomes, sorry man but if i have to open 1000 packs picks etc for one untradable TOTY GK its kind of over. The players quit fc 25, because of all these issues, ea notices and patches the game again (its literally not a patch but a attempt to get players back on the game) and some pros and fc 25 TH-camrs pretend the game is fixed now and so much better but it isnt. The game is such an unrewarding grind with inconsistent gameplay, and when you grinded all year to finally have the team you want and enjoy, theres fc 26 and it all comes to an end. But they do this on purpose, because if you would be able to craft your desired team in 3 months, no one sticks around for the gameplay.the concept is outdated and milked dry, the fact they care more about our money than us says enough. They have been ignoring the community for years. Before we have good consistent gameplay and servers we have women icons, let that sink in. Nothing against Womens soccer but dude!!! How do we have that before actual problems being solved, before what the community wanted? Rip fifa.
Tbh the first weeks of the patch were amazing I even got rank 2 on fut champs and I loved how the defending was and now legit my players cannot move at all the gameplay feels so damn slow like horrible I don’t understand what’s happening, I play on ps5 I don’t know if that has anything to do because a few days ago servers on ps5 crashed
Bro they killed this game. I literally can’t win a damm game to save my life. My players feel so bad. Passes don’t go where I aim. My defense is just bad I try to move them side to side and I still get beat so easy. Passes can’t go to my players literally right in front of them. My 91 Buffon and Toty Dibu dive without using there hands
They shadow patched it for noobs crying
I don’t know why these content creators are so focused on denying the fact that they have revert the game , honestly I don’t even know who to believe on the internet anymore I swear
im just speaking facts, you think im here to make friends or lie, the only reason people still watch me is because i speak facts, not living in some fantasy land fairy tale thinking there is some imaginary patch
They leaned on AI to carry them, got humiliated when it was nerfed, and now that the AI’s back to babysitting, they’re doubling down on damage control to keep at it. 😂
@@NealGuidesyeah its just the gameplay's inconsistent, although my first thought was they shadowpatched it.
Its not a shadow patch. They do "live tuning" which they can still adjust alot of things in the game
both im referring to here, even so I understand it could "theoretically" by hidden as you load into the game without downloading anything, but you can still get a short download, but in this case there was no patch, it just feels like it, but I can say for sure there was no live tuning
Bro stop wobbling , theres no downloading with a live patch. The game has been patched and there liad of proof , especially in single player modes. Drafts etc@@NealGuides
Exactly this. People think they need to do some crazy updates to change sliders. They definitely udpated some defensive AI but that's a good thing I guess. It was bonkers first days after patch but It's not crazy OP like it used to be.
@@NealGuidesthe Servers were down for a whole Day. They don‘t need to download anything if they didn‘t want us to see it. I‘ve played in elite div right after the patch and it was the best version of EA FC, now they reversed some things like passing and defensive AI, cause so many people were complaining. I am pretty sure, because it‘s very unlikely that all people just got better in defending in 1 week.
As Inception says, there is a problem with this game at core. Gameplay is inconsistent and if they dont fix that, no matter how many patches they do nothing will change
I just noticed a difference-maybe not exactly 1:1 like before the patch, but still. Playing now compared to before the patch, I can especially feel it with Vini and Mbappe. Right after the patch was introduced, no one could catch up to them, but now a lot of defenders are able to catch them again.
the only thing that argues with everything is, why did players outrun defenders at first, but not anymore? how do you make your defenders walk faster? adapt? i mean cmon, something is done
stop using these players with 80 sprint speed, and go for 95+ sprint speed plus and switching early with lower depth....
Are they the same players?
@@SeekTheCross everyone is using the same defenders haha. This guy thinks im an idiot. Im high up in elite or was before the new season i know what im talking about. Today ill be fair it plays decent, but still theres a change
Yeah, my defender is 86 speed and I can run down any player in the game now, I couldn't the couple days after the patch.
Any cb can catch r9, mbappe. Patch was made, this guy is simp for EA
They never patched it in the first place. The only thing they did was lifting the restrictions. Didn't playing after the supposed patch feel like every FIFA after its release? You know what I'm talking about. The game always felt good right after the release, but it always changed after the first patches. There's a reason a lot of people don't know about. The first few days/weeks EA let's us play the game with no restrictions, because they need to collect enough data like playtime, games played, games quitted, average time a player stays in the game, etc. Once enough data is collected they switch to an automated system, basically feeding the difficulty adjustment algorithm with user data.
The best evidence is the size of the patch. On consoles the patch was only 4GB, just as any previous minor patch. And according to many people the supposed patch was one of the, if not the biggest change of the gameplay of any FC/FIFA game by EA. If that to be case, the size of the patch would have been much bigger, don't you think!?
They play us like a fiddle
The game felt bad from day one true people knew, after Jan patch it made the game playable. The game is always a mess day 1, i always talk about it, people just dont understand the game enough and believe fairy tales of people who dont know what they are talking about. Its not automated system, the game was broken since day 1. Patch size dosent matter, if they changed frequencies of x or y, it could be a few kilobytes...
@NealGuides The fairy tale is that everybody knows that FIFA and FC felt better after release before the first patches came out. It is an automated system, you don't even know what I am referring to..
it’s really is just people adapting to the patch over time and poor gameplay more than anything. and the evos now allows people to have world class players for nothing
Nah, when the patch first release, lots of people used to 4213 has abandoned their formation immediately because it is not leading them to win but losing badly since they just second man pressing and control their CDM the whole time, and then defensively, all this offside traps came back, now is 4213 back again, with 6 people in the box, two cdm defending mode, and through balls still works, but you can not run pass the defenders anymore and you have to act quick with L1 trigger, because that nasty offside trap is back…
@@mxdppc 4213 was meta since day one, remember majority of the community clueless sheep, there was people claiming "it stopped being meta" when that was absolutely not the case.
It was always meta and has been since it came out. Same with 442/4231 they never changed its been meta in every game. The formation doesnt change how you play at the end of the day, sure the 2 CDMs help but its not going to DRAMATICALLY change how someone plays, gameplay is still the heaviest weighting by far. The offside trap still and was always there but attackers hold their runs better now so you gotta be careful, most people went to "deep lines" also after they struggled defensively.
Stfu you div 10 players. 100% soft patch. The reason you don’t feel it is you are a bad player and you can’t win anyway jajajajajajajajaja😅😅😅 shame on you ea employees
Definitely a shadow patch no doubt about it , only a few days ago my strikers with 90+pace rapid plus would fly past defenders now gold van dijk can catch them instantly
Im using 95 toty Eusebio and vini jr upfront in single player drafts(world class), im still getting caught by Girona defenders with ease.
What does that have to do with people adapting? 🤦🏾♂️
the difficulty gets worse and worse when playing draft on world class, the sliders are all the way up for the Girona players, for example your sliders are set at 50, but the Girona teams sliders are set at 90-99. So even if the defender has 50 pace and your toty icon haa 99 pace the defender is gonna catch up because of the sliders being all the way up due to difficulty increasing each match.
Test this in offline, go to playoffs or some game mode and play Real Madrid Vs Girona on Legendary difficulty then go to settings CPU sliders and user sliders leave user sliders on 50 (default) and put CPU sliders on 99.
Game is trash, all the no life kids has 5 Toty. Time to put this shit game on hold and come back in tots
Shame, playing today and the game feels so sticky again. I’m playing early morning Uk so the best time for less players. Can confidently say it’s nothing to do with connection it’s the game has changed something.
I think they do this so people get frustrated and spend money to get new players
I've moved up to div 1 almost instantly after the patch and about halfway to elite 💪 the game is much better than before
Same
And it's harder for ppl to abuse a broken game now it's about skill much kore
On PS 5 or PC? Cos i play on console but I still feel the sluggishness of my players even though I use meta players.
Im still div 2-3 the gamrplay is kinda annoying tho.... they abuse defence even more now
tbh just focus on your defence and you will naturally win more since its easier to score now, before people was running around with strikers not selecting their entire defence
The sliders can be adhusted without a new patch, no?
Yeap, they can do it even in real-time while you are in game. That's what people don't understand, that they don't need a patch to make these changes, they can just adjust the sliders as they want every second.
i think you're absolutely right in that most of it is people adapting. That said, the one thing that does lead me to think they might have patched it is this pro event. They cannot have 12-11 games at the pro level, which would be more than likely with the patch. So, perhaps they have dialed it down a notch to keep the pros in check.
Post patch I was destroying players. In the past week I am struggling to score. I had a guy using Kimmich in the RB position, and he was able to catch my 90 pace Sancho. Explain that to me. People do not adapt that quick.
they do, people like myself make videos, and people listen, post patch its the same its just people getting better, you show me a video of kimmich at RB catching up to sancho pls, cus unless its angles its almost impossible
Record that stuff dude
No chance of a shadow patch. Im still scoring 5/6/7 goals a game 😂
Bro you take money from EA? They have nerfed passing again(not as bad as pre-patch), my vini is getting caought up easily again when I am literally running in the open field. Attacking AI was so good after the patch, a lots of time i have to trigger them manually they wont run bro.
no man i just speak facts, did you even listen what I said in the first two minutes about faster defenders.
Im literally speaking facts, im not living in some lala fantasy land like 99% of the community.
@@NealGuides You alone does represent the entire community. If the majority of the community says it is reverted, then it's right. Stop riding EA so hard man.
@@mayankpatel2288-l5i literally cant believe what I am reading "majority of community says so it must be right" lol, legit how are some people so clueless and illogical, its just such a lack of common sense. Now I understand why politics is just mass influence and sheep it all makes sense.
@@NealGuides dude what are you smoking? I literally said my Vini is easily getting caught and how is that people adopting to the patch are you foolish? I want to pass to some player and goes to another how that is adopting. At least think before yapping.
@@mayankpatel2288-l5i literally people likeyou are just so clueless, sheep following the masses, your logic is "everyone else says this so it must be true" LOL, 99.99% of the community included you are clueless, this is why we were in this mess in the first place. Adopting to patch is using faster players and high sprint speed, literally so clueless on basic common sense
Played against a dude that only controlled his midfielders and he was a fortress his ai was insaaaaaaaaaaane ,definitely a shadow patch .
I think after everybody posting about the game being patched and “fixed” really affected the servers.
Even my menus went from working well, to being a laggy mess.
Last couple days have been solid again.
Yup people have adapted 😂😂 yeah right, people who didn’t have a clue how to manually defended have managed to learn to manually defend in a matter of days when in reality it takes months or even years.
I have people I play on a regular basis who were good players and could give me close games, but I am long term player having played since 1997, after this original patch bringing in manual defending I was beating them by 5-7 goals almost every game because I know how to manually defend and they dont.
Now the last 2 days the games are back to being close again and Im constantly seeing AI defenders covering runs, intercepting and tackling, its a disgrace from EA.
Exactly. The AI’s behavior shows it’s been tweaked. Runs that players had to cover manually are now automatically handled by the AI again.
Its to keep the casual happy man they might buy fc points
Just opened a 84+ x3 pack, not from the store but from rewards.. 85/84/84. And this is the millionth time this happens.. opened another one, 87/87/86IF/85. Its so hard for me to pack anything above 89. 82+ x20 literally just drained my club from fodder, everything is so expensive requires a totw, 11 84s with one totw for 4 84 gold players in return (84+ x5 UPGRADE) from the pack. I sank 1m coins into the grind and not even half way the grind for the Ronaldinho sbc. And sitting for hours and hours grinding this game the menus playing matches for packs etc its so time consuming, and if you miss one day you lose out on rewards, you make mistakes making evos etc etc. Its just terrible tbh.
They’ve definitely put a patch. It’s back to being shit and the skill gap disappearing.
People asking for defending to be nerfed? 😂😂 Defending is terrible in this game. You can literally take one players to open a defense. It’s so bad that you don’t even need to make passes to have more possession than your opponent because dispossessing players in near impossible. Oh and don’t get me started on pressing.
Yes, my 80 pace defender adapted to the patch and now can catch up toty mbappe 😊.
Im enjoying the game way more now, the connection issues are the only ones that are annoying me. Great video Neal!
I just have the feeling the overall servers are even worse then it was before. How many times I try to do a skillmove and it happens 2 sec later is crazy. The same happens with switching. I know I am not the greatest player, but not being to pass or shoot because the game things I need to walk to the next stadium before I can. Is crazy. Especially when I have good internet/ping. Some games I lose but think oké, I should have done that different. But a lot of the time, idk if it is my own fault or that the servers feels like I am playing against somebody that plays on the fastest computer with the fastest reaction time, where everything Connects. So I think they thought putting all the servers on a potato would be a upgrade.
Shadow patch CLEARLY THERE. Stop talking bullshit.
Was 1 win from div 3 had a standard team this week have been lucky enough to pack 7 toty players 3 of them being LB, CB, RB ive not won a game all week since putting them in. Was winning post patch with 87 - 91 rated defenders now with 94 - 96 rated defenders. can't get a win to save my life. Full team chem and tactics are ++
Slightly faster😂😂😂 The pass and movement speed has doubled.
You need to understand guys once like now is Toty event, more players are playing game. More people log in to the game to do sbcs, grinding packs etc. All is abaout servers cant keep up... And people learn how to defend after patch to
Poor connection.. welcome to the rest of us you in the UK. Try Singapore where there are like 12 players total so you play with India, Vietnam, Thailand, Nesia.. the struggle is real.
I don't play ut i play kick off mode offlineline no Internet on so I don't get any interference. I logged on to do squad update and they have 100 % changed this game it's a joke now whereas that patch brought some life back to the game sorry nothing to do with people adapting .One thing I have noticed is graphic change if the graphics are really crisp the gameplay is normally playable if it dips so does the game i play on world class no point upping this as game just cheats more my opinion 😊
Nope, game is still the same mate
Don't think there was any shadow patch.
Outside of the obvious server delay and usual inconsistent gameplay bs
Ppl just started adjusting their tactics to suit the new meta. Lower depth. Much lower/ 2cdms for the most part. But ppl have gotten better at manual defending at least at the higher levels cuz they've been doing it for a while so the adjustment period isn't bad.
That plus the power curve spike with the toty event and toty evos. Defense is wayyy better. Think about it. They realised Both lb/rb evos that give fullback++ role. And a gdlk CB in evos. As well as free konate which was upgraded (just as an eg) . N a great gk for cheap in Casillas. Honestly shows the power of roles that imo hasn't been fully explored yet by fifa gameplay gurus
Nice video, to me the ai defending has gone up quite a bit and less are defending manually. Just opinion of course and the points in the video do make me question my initial thoughts
Would you say shadow patch, or just slow/overloaded servers leading to clunkier games
It is the 4213 with auto offside traps coming back… which is insane… plus, the most bounce ball you will get when you are facing all these blues…
Slow/overloaded services imho, especially during toty it always happens
Since few days the game feels so unrewarding again. I came back after the latest patch because the game went finally cool. Now the same shit is going on. Much offsides. Pass quality bad. Tackles too strong. Dribbling is clunky again. The ball goes like ping pong. I think they want to make a game, that bad players can win, to hold them playing and paying. Play this game good feels just unrewarding. My 94 harry kane cant score now for some reason?
Before clickingthe vide, I thought he is going to be discuss aboutpatching Stadium Shadow which is very annoy to play :D
Ea controls the skill level that’s not skill! The game always feels good when there’s a big promo. Coincidence ? There is no pro players because you can’t be a pro at something you the company controls everything
bro who is tellingy ou fantasy lies i study this game for a living i dont even need to lie to be liked, game feels terrible every promo
Nobody tells me anything brother man, I play this game multiple hours every day and have done for to many years. If I can take a silver team to elite Devision one week then on another account struggle to win a game in Devision 5 with probably one of the best teams possible then there is clearly something going on.
I’m not having a go at you I’m just saying there’s no way it’s just people are adapting to the patch. It will come out one day :)
Thank god. There is no such thing. People just whine
This guy is simping so hard for EA , just admit there was a shadow patch, players adapting my ass
honestly you so clueless, and above all you lack so much common sense, honestly if you are over 18+ they should remove your voting rights irl
Bro the passing has been ass for me I’m getting assisted way too much especially with long balls
kinda cap neal. i was defending the "there was no shadow patch side" for some time now but im actually changing my mind lately. you say people improve yet 90% of the community are garbage, they dont improve unless they find meta things to abuse. there shouldnt be no meta thing to abuse and AI shitters wont just start manually defending, they havent used it bcuz it was good bcuz it never technically was but bcuz theyre bad / slow in their brains. they get better players? idk, ive been playing against the same teams as before and its also not like even if someone has a highlight player / really good team they do anything diff then before or spectacular things with that card. people changed their teams / individual players to adapt to the new meta? again, im just seeing the same teams.
yes i agree that the gameplay / servers plays a big part in this, if theyre bad everything always feels worse.. but still the way AI defending seems to work again, how theey just automatically catch so much again, how you cant outpace defenders again if you opponent made a mistake.. it feels different to the patch we received. im a really good manual defender but lately i get punished for plays again that should / used to work again its nuts. player movement seems bit different again, passing seems worse again, idk..
and one thing that has been weirding me out: with the latest patch they fixed the sbc storage bug where you had to do some hoops first as for example switching to transfer market at the start of an sbc and then go to sbc storage so the cards would show, if you just went over they wouldnt show. for some days now this bug is back and it aligns with the feeling since when a "shadow patch" / patch revert happened.
its no cap if there is no changes, 99% of community are clueless dont even know anything about the game, no one calls them out because they need to be liked, i dont care i say facts not here to be "liked" by other influencers, or creators its not my job, im a teacher
yes there is shadow patch and I tell you why, EA want to sell there new cards players of the years so they do the good patch everyone start talking about it and most of the player get back and start spending money, now EA as usual need the player to feel that there is something messing in their team that's why the do this shadow patch
now how I know that there is a shadow patch, there is a big difference in the movement of the player it was smooth now we back to bad movement again , and no it is not the server because first three days of the good patch was having an queue to get to the game so the server was full and yet I was having me best game play ever in the history of EA ( even if I lost I was happy because the game play was perfect)
SO yes there was a SHADOW PATCH
If EA hasnt done anything explain how then the day the patch came strikers where out running defenders now after a few days defenders ie gold vvd catch my vini up and that is now happening all the time again and no its not people adapting thats bs or they have betterplayers nothing to do with that
literally explained this in the first 30 seconds
I won 2 games in this WL where the scoreline was 1-0 and 2-1 and the very next game a guy put past 6 goals under 30 minutes and in the next game I did the same to other guy idk what is going on 😂
It’s called Scripting / the game will try its best to keep your win loss ratio as close to 1 as possible
Bro I’d dosnt matter what players you have cmon don’t hit us with that. I can take a silver team to elite 1 week and then the next I would loose 9/10 times
Yea but they can live tune... release an update to mass number draw data points and live tune, they don't need to send a client update for tuning.
They are a scummy company.. easy to hit the bait and switch after profits boom.
Hey neal - I completely agree , NO shadow patch , just heavy/overloaded servers. When the PS5 servers were down the other day - my menus and gameplay were SOOOOO smooth on Xbox.
I’ve been watching your videos often and it’s really helped me. I haven’t played fifa in 10+ years , decided to jump back into it on FC25. I’ve played 4213 since the start of the game , and been a constant high div 3 , low div 2 player consistently since the game started - I always thought I should be a div 1 player , but with how the game was before (passing , rebounds , tackling etc) I really struggled to break through the barrier. After this new patch - wow - still playing 4213 as usual , but finally made it into div 1 and I’m holding steady right in the middle!
So yeah - sorry for the long message - just wanted to say thanks for all your vids , keep them up!
I actually Ike the game
Finesse is ass now
still op it has changed
People learnt to defend quickly
Are you telling or asking?