Thank you for making this amazing video, with opinions so well organized and intention cleanly stated, and I really hope riot can see this! I've been playing this game for more than 10 years, and my time of grinding LP belongs well to the past. Now I just wish so hard that we will have a PVE game mode that we can play frequently (or even better, regularly). The fact that a great content creator makes a voice on this matter almost tears me up. Thank you again for making this video, you have no idea how much I appreciate this!
I'd be interested to see if the Asian market has the same opinion about the state of League or if it's just NA/EU. Cause it seems Riot is gearing a lot of its decisions towards appealing to a market that's more grindy, hyper-competitive, and loves skins.
for me personally, I do not see the game dying, since all I ever focus on is getting better and improving my rank. I only see league as a game to beat other players not to necessarily have fun (winning does go hand in hand with fun tho). I don't really care too much about skins since I can't afford them lol
I agree ,i feel like riot has been focusing only on the Asian comunity and making content or changes to make them happy leaving everyone else on the side
@@JJ-mr5lj why are you playing a damn game if not to have fun just to have a useless icon/name/number ? It doesn't even reflect your skill I play with plats and diamonds and win against them fairly often in normals but I don't play ranked much only 20-40 games max and finish in gold or silver
@@cin2110 It's personal preference though? Like for example I also enjoy grinding in some games whereas most people would find grinding boring and monotonous.
It’s always the same story when it comes to companies. They start off with the intention of consumer priority and eventually lose themselves to money and believe they’re untouchable. I hope Riot is able to take a step back and go back to its roots
@@walkelftexasranger u should never put blizzard and riot at the same level and not even remotely close, riot might've fked a lot when it comes to lol this year but their work ethic and their game design philosophy is nowhere to be close, from breastmilk steal to the introduction of gambling models and making the final boss of cash grab games aka diablo immortal
Not surprised at all but I am surprised that not more gamers are anti-capitalist after growing up and seeing what capitalism has done to the industry. The one and only goal for a company is to create profits. That’s it.
@@TheAxeaman Well what the hell are they supposed to do then lol. Video game companies aren't charities fyi, they need money to grow and the so called '''capitalism'' is still better than the leftist bullshit which ruined games like TLoU 2, in fact most masterpieces and classics came out during the era in which the former system was more well liked worldwide speaking. Human greed is always to blame, not the system itself but ig that you'd rather shill that political bullshit like every other leftist NPC before you kek.
It's funny how during arcane it was pretty easy for them to change the map to have references to it on the map like straight up changing the look of the towers but changing the map white would "take some time"
@@rajder656 perhaps but putting snow on the map is something they have already done. Compared to remaining the towers from scratch it seems easy enough
@@thekingofawesomeness9173 when was the last time they made it ? How many champions were added and more importantly how many skins came out ? Let's say it's 10 champions and 400 skins. You wanna go and try every single one of those to make sure they are clearly visible ? Message riot and say you'd volunteer to do that
@@rajder656 Yeah it must be so hard for a billion dollar company to put effort into their work. We should definitely whiteknight them to ensure they take the easy way out every time.
@@potato31415 i just want you to understand that it's not that easy to make a map. Yes making a new map would take more time than changing a turret. That's all you have to understand.
I share similar opinions as you. I've been playing on and off since S3, and I've seen this game grow quite a lot. But season 11 and beyond have been extremely disappointing. It's the small things, and riot has really been lacking on the small things. Why has Ahri's ASU taken over a year to create, only to be delayed? Why haven't they communicated more than 3 times the total progress of this year? Why have they been dumping skins on us instead of fixing bugs on lots of Champs? Why do they keep adding things when they don't address so many fundamental issues that still exist?
"Why has Ahri's ASU taken over a year to create" because a lot of the teams needed to be rebuilt "Why have they been dumping skins on us instead of fixing bugs on lots of Champs?" they fix shit ton of bugs every patch the thing is how do you fix it? 1st of all the code is a mess so changing one thing might break something else. 2nd a lot of longstanding bugs are hard to reproduce like the invisible nunu "Why do they keep adding things when they don't address so many fundamental issues that still exist?" Because the game would die. It's rare for games who dont get new things to live.
@@rajder656 really? sure you are so rational that's why we have even voice packs, right? (official ones) no they are just lazy and greedy obviously, don't just believe whatever you hear/read from everyone - the wolf disguises itself as a sheep.
All this talk about the game and comparing this year to the previous ones, really got me thinking about all the time I put into this game. In the end, about two weeks ago, I decided not to play it, and they have been one of the best weeks in a year.
@@apolonier11 I think 90% of people that say stuff like this are actually insane. Like if you let a video game do something like this to you, I don't think you're cut out to play games. Because games are for you to have fun and if you put so much unnecessary stress on yourself that you're happy while not playing. You missed the point of playing in the first place
@@AStrangeTrapthe fun part of this game is supposed to be competitively ranking up, thats what riot promotes and rewards you for every year. the problem with this game is that most average joes are so unskilled but the game appears so casual they cant even tell that other players far more skilled. i jungle, so i have an app that checks peoples solo queue ranks, kda and win rates for when i play flex q. occasionally ill see matches where bronze or iron solo q players lane against golds, plats and sometimes diamond solo q players unknowingly. generally these people will flame because they are ignorant, but if they could see ranks like me, they would accept the skill gap immediately.
one of the things that makes my blood boil, is the fact that they say... "it takes some time to make seasonal maps"... and some random dude with a team of what.... 3 - 5 people? made a functional project map, and a functional winter map.
What they say is coded language for "we could do it but don't wanna spend any ressources on it when we can dish out more skins and make fast money out off it."
I'm gonna be nice and not call you very mean words. Killerskins and others are NOT conserned about vibility of clarity. They just make cool shit. Yes i can make a map in a few hours maybe but now try this map with a 160 champions and each of their skins to make sure all of them are clearly visible is way harder than that.
@@Levi_Ackerman_005 let's say it takes 5 minutes to make sure each champion is visible on the map. Now multiply it by 160 and then let's be generous and assume each has 5 skins (which we know league has more than 800 skins) it's 70h of work just to test it so 8 days of playtesting it to make sure all skins and champs are visible. Go and try to do it
@@rajder656 you are just proving my point though, of those 950+ skins and champions, you need to divide it by 10 which is 95, why? because you can test 10 champions/skins per game, and that's assuming you only have 10 people working on it. So you are basically testing 10 champs/skins every 5 minutes, and by simple math (rule of three): If 10 champs/skins...... take 5 minutes 950 champs/skins....... take 'X' minutes (950*5) = 4,750 4,750/10 = 475 minutes (AKA 8 hours) And this AGAIN assuming you have 10 people working on it. "it's 70h of work just to test it so 8 days of playtesting...." Plus 8 days of playtesting is not that wild for a game as big as League, considering that they DON'T have only ONE employee, so yes it's definitely doable. I typed all of that and I realize that I was doing it wrong, is not even 950, it's 95. Which actually even proves my point even more. And you are saying 8 days is "a lot" of playtesting... guess what? how long does it take a patch to appear on live servers AFTER it was on PBE (which PBE is literally for playtesting)? Sometimes a week (which is the bare minimum; not counting hotfixes because they need to come out as soon as possible hence the name hotfix), or sometimes 2 weeks or more depending on the patches. So 8 days of playtesting actually is nothing.
I remember when Riot said they were gonna release packs to change the announcer voice to a champ's voice as your announcer instead. Was really looking forward to that. It's been like 2-3 years now.
That's honestly hilarious considering HotS easily implemented that when they went 2.0. and their team is much, much smaller than Rito's. Blizz ofc killed that game for the same reasons Rito seemingly has. Greed. Classic.
What it feels like for me is that League is on a timer right now, with the deadline being the summer event...if Riot doesnt deliver something big in the summer, I see League going down because at that point, too many old players would just be fed up with everything and quit for good A lot of people are only still in league because of the stupid amounts of money they burned in this toxic dress up game and they are just waiting for the single thing that signals "league is only getting worse" to just cut their loses and turn away
@@Tylerrrrrb How long have they played? My first year I spent nothing, second year I bought two skins, 4 skins in my third year, around the 6th year I bought around 200 skins, currently I have around 600 skins and have stopped spending on the game for a few months now.
@@Tylerrrrrb So a person that have enough disposable income and chose to put a little bit into a game he played for years is a loser? And I started playing before loot chests were a thing. You want to defend your poor ass friend circle and shit on me for no reason? Insecure much?
Kinda regretted it when I didn't play doom bots back then, because I was so scared when I watched Nightblue3's gameplay. Now, I wish doom bots will return even for a week 😭 to have a break from rift's usual look.
League has become one of those games that it´s fun watching others play it and getting invested on it´s universe, but when it comes to actually play it... it´s just frustraiting doing the exact same ranked games over and over again
what kind of cucks watched lol streamers or lcs anyway ?" if you were a good player, you learned yourself and didnt copy probuilds lets be real. the top lol streamers are some goblin looking creatures, either have goblin personalities or are scared to show their faces
It certainly still has its numbers, but theres a lot more disgruntled casual players. I used to live for the yearly map changes and things alike. Even the PVE game mode with the odyssey, as well as the winter map changes and fall map changes o.o
Quitting this game for good was honestly one of the best life decisions i've ever made lol. Sounds a bit over dramatic but if you go from being addicted to this game to quitting compeltely you will notice your life improves a lot.
THANK YOU OUTSIDE JOKE FOR GOING OUT OF YOUR WAY TO BE CONSTRUCTIVE league community can be so insatiable sometimes so its nice to hear among all the other "league is dying videos".
Honestly, one reason why players keep coming back to League is the nostalgia factor associated with it. Back when you and your friends would play together almost every single day, seeing Faker at the finals stage, and even the 3AM grinding you would quietly do so you wouldn't wake your parents up (trust me, I've done that many times). The best part? You probably still have a "connection" with the old champs you used to play. I'm still a Teemo OTP today, even if there's champs out there who can beat the shit out of the little demon in lane.
We need a better balance team and a ranked team who works for the ranked players, to monitor the health of the queue and do not take 7 patches to nerf a champion it's tiring to have to deal with those toxic champions for so long! The banns are not enough right now...
Hanging up the boots finally after playing this game for 10 years. Peaked Diamond 1 in Season 11, and started playing Season 3. The game is no longer fun to me, and in the worst state it has been in YEARS.
As person that mained Support when I see what people play I can't even get back in to game. Now they take mid laners and play them as support just to deal more damage and get more kills. They destroyed one whole role. Who tf decided you can play Brand,Velkoz,Swain as support ffs.
I feel like the new chat restriction system is awfully flawed, as long as you avoid certain "no no" words then you're fine, however if you hit one then it's instant punishment, context be damned. I even got my first chat restriction in my 10+ years of playing because someone was continually insulting my teammate, to which i responded in a not so kind manner (no threats or anything of the sort mind you). Shortly after that game i got a restriction, for sticking up for a friend (albeit in a rude/mean manner).
@@rajder656 I had a guy wishing cancer on me, i called him a pathetic loser and a few other taunts for saying such shit, got chat restricted for that too. Riot knows what they're doing. :)
The brief mention of customizable summoners rift map is so underrated. Top lane choosing a mini chroma for top lane, jng doing so jungle, bot lane would conplicate things but it sounds neat. Could also be a dead-end idea with too high development cost but it's super interesting to think about.
@@rajder656 Like with their skins that are super clear I can't tell what humanoid champ is who anymore it's all robot/anime suits and sparkles that all look identical and their fucking skill shots
The biggest problem for me with League of Legends is the reworks. I started playing 10 years ago and about 80% of my original champion pool has been reworked... I do not like any of them anymore. Udyr was my main champ and I absolutely despise the new one. Why not just make a new champion? Why ruin the old ones?
I personally think this doesnt have to do with any of the recent issues. It has to do with a swelling dissapointment across many department. The client is STILL the worst in the industry, without Arcane (A completly deperate indevour) this game has the least accessable lore for a game this big, and the list goes on and on.
Idk man, I'm a huge souls fan and player and I'm pretty sure that lore is the least accessable. I played all the way through Bloodborne reading everything I got and was only able to piece together little chunks of lore
@@AStrangeTrap i mean warhammer lore is pretty incaccessible. In fact games that focus on gameplay have pretty innacessible lores. According to notzelda overwatch has an even more innacessible lore
Yeah like why is TFT in the same client I don't want to touch that thing with a stick yet its showed into my face, there is so much useless garbage in this client and it even leaks memory
I want to clarify this : one rioter talked about why the cinematic wasn't released. Cinematics are produced by other studios, and they encountered an issue (that they can't mention) that made them stop the developpement. Then they had to rush a last minute cinematic.
there seems to be a lot of omissions in this video. Like riot clarified a lot of the stuff on their twitter and even revealed quite a bit of things about whats coming and why they didnt come like rebuilding the gamemodes team after it moved to tft and that they are wokring on a new 2v2v2v2 gamemode
@@rajder656 this particular subject about video studios must be a bit touchy and they can't always legally say everything so I don't find it that strange that they omit things
@@reden666 wdym? I like outside joke but he basically omitted everything that happened after the cinematic released. Like riot explaining that because of something out of their control the original cinematic couldn't be released, that they're gonna be more transparent and already gave us a lot about what's coming like new game modes, better events, new stuff for the events, etc. A lot of the stuff that is very important. There's also the fact that budget for league for this year is the highest it's ever been. Oh and the reason why 2022 was dull. To simply put 2022 reflected the state riot has been in the previous year
@@rajder656 I think it's either in the contract that they are not legally to share the information or that they don't want to tarnish their partner by admitting the studio's short coming struggle. You can hate Riot at anything, but most Riot's marketing uses a lot of outsourcing. So this time you can't really blame them at this 1 particular problem.
@@cloudynguyen6527 OK WHAT? who's not legally able to share the information? Take a deep breath and read what i wrote. Riot said the cinematic thing was out of their control so they quickly made this one. There was a lot of info released about what's coming, the budget for this year for league is highest than it's ever been. Oh and the state of league last year reflected the previous year because they needed to rehire a bunch of people.
If they do decide to kill off the game, which I spent a ton of money on. I at least expect some compensation. These are things I bought and own, if the game is unplayable then I want my money back. Or some of it.
Other thing that rub people the wrong way is how much League seems to be biased with their priorities, instead of fixing things that need to be fixed, they focus on things they know will bring them money on the short run. Case on point: Ahri´s visual update I can name from the top of my head a lot more champs that are on a desesperated need of one instead of Ahri: Anivia Corki Amumu Malphite Tryndamere Lux Shyvana Jarvan IV Nocturne Kennen Singed Nautilus Lee Sin Skarner (RIP my guy, after a whole year of the poll, Riot said they have barely started to work on it)
@@sadvec6328 "When selecting the next ASU, we take into account many factors such as everything we talked about above, and things like tech debt and complexity, art quality, or champion popularity." Jax literally just got an ASU, skarner is getting a rework so why include him, nautilus is doing more than fine same with almost every single champion in here
I think Riot is tired of League and maybe they should consider to collaborate with the community, Valve allowed Dota players to make their own content within the game, allowing cosmetics, improve the tutorial and custom gamemodes which one of them is Auto Chest where Riot copied it into TFT.
league's house is still burning and still has a chance to be saved but tf2 is already the ashes in the dirt so players just "hakuna matata" their remaining days😂😂
The chat restriction is one of the biggest reason that I quit. It doesn’t work good like you said I honestly am not a toxic player, never ever got the slightest punishment from riot in any of my accounts an have over 5000 hours of gameplay total. And after the chat restriction update 1 in every to games I get completely chat banned because I told my 0/6 overextended adc yasuo to stay under the fucking tower? Now I haven’t been playing the game for months now after I got a 2 week chat ban. I can’t be the only one that thinks like this cmon.
Since 2023 started my time in league went from 10 games a day to 10 games since the year started till now and 5 of them are custom 1v1s and im guess im not the only one affected :)
Have you played overwatch recently though? That game is packed with different game modes and maps and the players still hate it. I'd have to see how the fans react if they got everything they say would make the game better
THis here is the reason why solo Q (league of legends) is so bad. GO add more game modes so that the league of legends team is distracted with stupid modes instead of fixing bugs or making Solo q playable.
Tried the game today. I play a lot of MOBAs (Smite, Dota 2, Arena of Valor, Onmyoji arena, Pokémon unite...) and I can safely say the clunky menus, bugs and boring gameplay made it seem like the worst MOBA I have played so far. Now I am aware that Lol requires some time to be fun as we learn it, but I'm still fully willing to believe it's dying and a lot less willing to give it time (edit: in its current state) when I like the other options better.
it s the 100000. video about league dying but it ll never die because it s competetive and online which you can easily play with your friends. it doesnt repeat the same thing over and over not every match is the same with an old one and it makes you feel competetive feelings which kinda triggers you to keep on playin. skins make you feel more important and kinda special same for the masteries. we are addicted and we wonder how the games and the players are doin even though some or many of us have stopped playing. it s fun to watch because it s not you that suffers while you watch. league has a big base community and people dont really want to stop quitting just because they tilted. i stopped because i have some things to do and it affects my whole life so i quitted.but some players are still playing for a bit of fun or for competetive reasons such as streaming and esports or illegal stuff. league always gets updates and it gets some things on the name of LoL (but never in the game, we know what happens inside the game it s shit). as conclusion we are just addicted and probably wont let the game go of our lives
Its litteraly first time in years i dont feel like playing the game. Not being able to dodge people by stalking them made the game entirely coinflip. I didnt even finish my placements while normally, i get 100+ games early season to try hit gm early season
I think that your take on the state of league is very hopeful, but for somebody that’s also been playing for years are growing real tired of them but I do appreciate your points. Part of me has given up on Riot ever actually caring about what the community has to say. But hopefully with enough, TH-camrs and other people like you guys bringing it to the attention that everybody’s fed up, did they actually do something after all these years
Once they grew past being a mid-sized company or being bought out, they start to just don't care at all, super especially if their industry is about games, they'll just think everyone was just whiny kids. League is just a fundraiser for other projects, nowadays.
@@MangaGamified THIS. 100% the game, League that started it all is being neglected and treated like you say, as a way to generate revenue so they cane make other projects and expand. Well Said. If more people understood this or cared enough, maybe the gaming industry wouldn't be diluted by monetization decisions for casual players with their pussy 'star guardian' skins
ive been playing for a few years, but I basically stopped since september. I was around level 330, but finally stopped playing mostly cuz the friends I used to play with also mostly quit, and its not fun solo queueing anymore.
My theory for why they didn't say anything about the 2v2v2v2 mode was well... because it's Riot. Recently they've stretched their teams very thin and with new people with less experience they weren't sure how long the mode would take to come out and the community is already giving them hate due to no big news about Skarner. Having another "teaser" leaning over us once again would just be more aggrivating. I do think that the mode was planned before the whole fiasco (hell when riot talked about the hack, they mentioned game *modes* so the might have more stuff planned), but l do agree that it was put as more of a priority due to the backlash
yeah, and they promised weekly rotational game-modes waaaaay before the hack... and waaaaaay before their teams ran very thin... what's their excuse to that, huh? this company is actual dogwater. And sadly, people still drink it like it is champagne.
@@Levi_Ackerman_005 then why do you interact with the community then? If you hate the game, just don't get near any news about it. I seriously don't understand people like you. They love shitting on riot yet will never actually leave it.
I was on a phone with a friend few hours ago, talking about how LoL is dying and how Riot doesn't give a shit about players, only money. And this video pops up in my suggested feed. Guess my feeling about the game isn't only me.
I love that people realize the state of lol because riot has released a bad cinematic now and not because of the changes they have been making to the game since 2019
I know this is almost impossible at this point, but i would love to have more moba options to take care of this league of legends burnout feeling im always having.
if this game disappeared or they randomly shut down all servers, I would be so happy I hate this game yet addicted like many of us this game is the worst rabbit hole to ever go into
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I joined league in October 2022, playing it non-stop, game feels great for a new player like me I think I’m not the only person who just joined league and is enjoying it, so game will hopefully last for a few more years
Glad youre still enjoying it, but ive been playing for three years myself (which isnt that long tbh) but ive been getting a bit bored. Like nothing new ever happens and the 'events' are just skin releases that's all and its sad. Plus all the other things OJ said in this video... hf and gl on ur games :)
Dota is definitely harder and more complicated, but harder and more complicated doesn't make a better game; If that's how it works, then rts and mmorpgs should be dominating gaming for decades and it doesn't.
@@VanxHelsing03 I would argue being too complicated drives casuals away from a game and the casuals make 90% of the playerbase and as much for viewers of esports
League feels awful to play right now, games are decided by the 10 min mark, there's no point in putting in the effort to comeback, you waste less time going straight into the next game and flip the coin again. Champions scale way too easily, perma gank junglers have no punishment on constantly ganking a lane and neglecting jungle camps, top laners don't care if they go 0/20, they still get tanky and with enough mobility they can just perma split with no drawback, depending if the coin flip on draft was in their favor. This is a concurrent vicious cycle that affects games below high diamond, players don't understand macro, don't know the limits of their champions or how to play them, there's simply too many mistakes to be commited by your teammates at any given time frame of execution where you as a single player can't control. The game is simply toxic to play right now, anyone who plays any role except jungler doesn't have any fun or agency while playing the game. When I end a game I don't feel excited I won, I feel relived it's over.
damn it’s people like you on my teams that give up and spam ff15 in chat. i’ve been in comebacks many times, two since yesterday. collecting drakes and a well timed baron can completely change the game at any moment
The community is part of what is killing it for me personally. It feels like the people who play it now either don’t care to win OR have fun, or take it way too seriously and backseat everything you do. The balance it wack and they aren’t proactive enough with changes, and anytime they do something cool with skins and such, I don’t want to use them because the balance team lacks. People also started listening to Tyler1 and other creators, but with the wrong context. Like, people use the valid complaints of their favorite creators to just hate anything Riot, but that doesn’t help anything. They’ll see Rioters in game and treat all of them like they are the balance team. Riot is a huge company with a LOT of different teams, but a portion of the community can’t grasp that.
CS:GO players receiving no new content a very minor changes for over a decade: Yeah, this game is great! Feels like it'll never die! LoL players when Riot releases a skin cinematic, 2 event cinematic, an event music video cinematic, 2 champion cinematics, but new season cinematic was meh: OmG RiTo Is TrYiNg To KiLl ThIs GaMe!!!!
Okay, we all know the whole indie company gag but seriously, Riot is a multi billion dollar company. There is literally zero excuse for them neglecting the game that got them started.
Agree with everything, except the chat restriction system, IMO at best it didn't change anything at worst it made the game worse. I don't care if someone says a no no word, not being able to communicate at all with a teammate is a horrible experience just because he said a bad word cus of one tilting moment. You have mute buttons if you are that hurt by mean words just mute them yourself, why does there need to be a system that mutes people without my consent, what if I dont mind the banter?
You are a sheep if you think you'll be able to change anything just by complaining a little and then still just continuing to play the game and do everything the same. If we want to actually save the game, then we need to take radical steps towards it, such as the death threats you mentioned, we need to show riot how much we hate them, and treat them the way they treat us. Boycott them, harass them, threaten them... just do everything in our power to make them annoyed, upset, disturbed, etc.
I play this game since 2014, and i normally i binged league,but the only reason i keep playing is, skins i payed for and battle passes, friends start to quit and the coms are so bad by new people who int harder then we did in the start
Decided to play a match after six months and was the worst mistake I made. I was able to outplay my opponent and my jungler refused to help but saw that my laner was low and wanted to KS. Got first blood and the jungler had a mental breakdown because I did not give the kill to him even though I was the one who rightfully deserved it. Dude raged quit and had to ff at 15. Haven't touched league since that time.
I've personally found League a bit hit-or-miss since the Mythic items. It's trivialized most builds - and you just NEED to buy one, and in some cases it feels bad.
Oh no. don't let the sjw's hear you. otherwise you will be accused of homophobic for being enough of their bs xD I'm pretty sure getting bashed by "open minded" ppl like them wouldn't be good
They don't even support the LGBT community or BLM like they say they do. I got banned for telling a racist that called me the n word to shut the the fuck up. I've seen so much outright homophobic and transphobic shit from chat to in-game names and those accounts are still active.
@@pahlawanbertopeng2351 isn't it funny how they're "open-minded" but can't accept people who has different opinion or perspective than what they have? 😂
Damn, this is some quality info feed! I like your optimism as I've been dipping my toes into this game since I quit mid-season 6. However the optics are quite damning - I think it's painfully obvious that Riot's management considers LoL a done game that's been developed enough and is now brought to a state they're more than happy with - just bringing them the quite comfortable passive income from skin sales. If you look outside of LoL's sphere and consider the broad picture of the online PC gaming industry, it's pretty clear Riot's ambitions are conquering a significant chunk of that with their upcoming projects - especially their MMORPG
The game back then was slower paced by design, not as much mobility, true damage, % health damage existed, you could actually Solo Carry Games, there was no turret shut down gold, no tower platings, Xp was distributed differently, no 1000 Gold Shut down that is given to you by a nonsensical system, Rift Herald did not exist to push in turrets, Dragons gave Gold not buffs, so no random factor there either, ap supports did not have that much Gold on their hands supports were actually that, supports, supporting. Not Senna as a 2nd adc, or Pyke with a Darius ultimate that teleports him around, Ap Supports, if played, did not have enough money to stack Ap Items only, they had to buy wards and Items to support their team. The annoying plants did not exist and champions were not designed so that some korean shoutcaster can scream his lungs out 5 Minutes into the Game in bot lane, seriously Proplay being such a cashcow was one of the worst things that ever happened for the Games overall health.
Did ultimate spellbook have any announcement at least half a year in advance? I dont remember that, I'm pretty sure if there was any announcement it happened literally just before the event happened, that's why I disagree that if they were working on the new game mode earlier they would've announced it earlier
yesterday i lost a game at 23 minutes, an enemy arhi an jhin with 3 items an baron pushed mid and ended the game, for me league feels like a mobile game, games constantly ending from 20-30 mins range... For me league is over
The LoL we all used to love died a long time ago, what we have today is just a cash grab. But the game will never die because of the casual players, because for them it doesnt matter the game is broken, they will still spend money and thats what keeps this game alive.
8:16 Nah, Riot Brightmoon or Meddler could have easily said, "Wait, this ain't right. Our community deserves better." But they didn't. No one from Riot thought, "wow this cinematic is ass." 100% just trying to cover their ass.
It "taking time" to re-use old map suggest that the people who could do it quickly no longer work for the company. Wouldn't surprise me if the office is now 90% corporate types and 10% technical talent.
I think another problem might be that riot said "when we release game mode we lose players afterwards". What they don't realize is that these gamemode were the thing that kept us coming back again and again. I'm now a retired LoL player since years and I play TfT, so I know about LoL as I see the starting page and events all the time but there is nothing catching me. Even urf doesn't catch me anymore as I know they only release it for the purpose of catching retired players and I won't fall for that. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices for the long term gain.
Tbh,the only reason I'm still playing this game is because there isn't a game like it,the first second a game similar to this releases I'm legit dropping it
I am a new player and after reaching level 31 I think k the game is not meant for OGs - I tried ranked thinking I’ll get placement matches with other new people but ended up in a plat lobby twice then lost 19 ranked games where the game refused to put me lower than Gold 4 - I am so new to the game I think that it’s unfair for others to play with me- why can’t I play with just other new players? Unless riot hates new players and only wants a game with old players
After all the bullshit I’ve put up with since season 2 I’ve finally snapped and quit the game. Seeing how the company had changed for worse, and believe me riot used to be know for being very responsive and communicative. Everything that I loved about this game is long gone , dead and buried. All they care about now is new ahri/lux/akali skins and not about the game itself. They make huge amounts of money from league and can’t dedicate a team for events? Is that the company you want to support? How many more chances are you gonna give RIOT before you realise they don’t care. Next season will be better *hits copium* give riot a chance *copium hit*. If the only thing holding you to the game is addiction you should really “look in the mirror” and realise what the fuck you’re doing. Any other company pulling what riot is pulling at the moment would be scrutinised and would see a massive drop in playerbase, but the league community has been so whipped that they just take it. Barely anyone is having fun but everyone is still playing. Great strategy against sheep riot.
I think you are being over positive, its higly likely it was just a corporate response (damage contro) rather than an actual change of perspective. Also, I feel you are also having too much empathy towards their decissions, I sadly feel League is not fun as it could potentially be, nor Riot has the love and care for the game and its community ever since some years ago, just check at the changes: they state of the game looks somehow selfish, and that is really weird.
I've been positive about League for years. But this is it. This is the final season. The worst of it all is I know I'll stop playing once the welcome event from sea server launch and URF is gone. I can't expect anything from Riot doing League service. The game's future looks so bleak it might as well be a dead game right now. League is not leaving with a bang, but a whimper.
I really hope league won't die,because i don't want it's developers get jobs in other games and ruin them
I just choked on my water reading this 🤣😭
LMAO true
It's a cultural problem. Starts with the weak early engineers
damn right
You make a compelling point, Tomas.
Thank you for making this amazing video, with opinions so well organized and intention cleanly stated, and I really hope riot can see this! I've been playing this game for more than 10 years, and my time of grinding LP belongs well to the past. Now I just wish so hard that we will have a PVE game mode that we can play frequently (or even better, regularly). The fact that a great content creator makes a voice on this matter almost tears me up. Thank you again for making this video, you have no idea how much I appreciate this!
Of course! and thanks lulu the for your support! Hopefully this can be the start to a new beginning 🙏
i mean pve game mode is basically this new riots mmo that they are working on so ye
@@trixadc I've been waiting for that for years too!
I'd be interested to see if the Asian market has the same opinion about the state of League or if it's just NA/EU. Cause it seems Riot is gearing a lot of its decisions towards appealing to a market that's more grindy, hyper-competitive, and loves skins.
for me personally, I do not see the game dying, since all I ever focus on is getting better and improving my rank. I only see league as a game to beat other players not to necessarily have fun (winning does go hand in hand with fun tho). I don't really care too much about skins since I can't afford them lol
I agree ,i feel like riot has been focusing only on the Asian comunity and making content or changes to make them happy leaving everyone else on the side
@@JJ-mr5lj why are you playing a damn game if not to have fun just to have a useless icon/name/number ? It doesn't even reflect your skill I play with plats and diamonds and win against them fairly often in normals but I don't play ranked much only 20-40 games max and finish in gold or silver
@@cin2110 it’s just a mentality thing perhaps. I figure if I am gonna waste time in something I might as well try to be the best I can
@@cin2110 It's personal preference though? Like for example I also enjoy grinding in some games whereas most people would find grinding boring and monotonous.
It’s always the same story when it comes to companies. They start off with the intention of consumer priority and eventually lose themselves to money and believe they’re untouchable. I hope Riot is able to take a step back and go back to its roots
First Valve, then Blizzard and now Riot Games.
Can't say I am surprised, but it's always sad to see that.
@@walkelftexasranger u should never put blizzard and riot at the same level and not even remotely close, riot might've fked a lot when it comes to lol this year but their work ethic and their game design philosophy is nowhere to be close, from breastmilk steal to the introduction of gambling models and making the final boss of cash grab games aka diablo immortal
Not surprised at all but I am surprised that not more gamers are anti-capitalist after growing up and seeing what capitalism has done to the industry. The one and only goal for a company is to create profits. That’s it.
No more competition for a game like league. Before they competed with dota, etc. now they dominate, and now they don’t give a fuck.
@@TheAxeaman Well what the hell are they supposed to do then lol. Video game companies aren't charities fyi, they need money to grow and the so called '''capitalism'' is still better than the leftist bullshit which ruined games like TLoU 2, in fact most masterpieces and classics came out during the era in which the former system was more well liked worldwide speaking. Human greed is always to blame, not the system itself but ig that you'd rather shill that political bullshit like every other leftist NPC before you kek.
It's funny how during arcane it was pretty easy for them to change the map to have references to it on the map like straight up changing the look of the towers but changing the map white would "take some time"
because changing the ground to be more white is not a simple coloring thing. You have to consider things like visibility of characters and their skins
@@rajder656 perhaps but putting snow on the map is something they have already done. Compared to remaining the towers from scratch it seems easy enough
@@thekingofawesomeness9173 when was the last time they made it ? How many champions were added and more importantly how many skins came out ? Let's say it's 10 champions and 400 skins. You wanna go and try every single one of those to make sure they are clearly visible ? Message riot and say you'd volunteer to do that
@@rajder656 Yeah it must be so hard for a billion dollar company to put effort into their work. We should definitely whiteknight them to ensure they take the easy way out every time.
@@potato31415 i just want you to understand that it's not that easy to make a map. Yes making a new map would take more time than changing a turret. That's all you have to understand.
I share similar opinions as you. I've been playing on and off since S3, and I've seen this game grow quite a lot. But season 11 and beyond have been extremely disappointing.
It's the small things, and riot has really been lacking on the small things. Why has Ahri's ASU taken over a year to create, only to be delayed? Why haven't they communicated more than 3 times the total progress of this year?
Why have they been dumping skins on us instead of fixing bugs on lots of Champs?
Why do they keep adding things when they don't address so many fundamental issues that still exist?
"Why has Ahri's ASU taken over a year to create" because a lot of the teams needed to be rebuilt
"Why have they been dumping skins on us instead of fixing bugs on lots of Champs?" they fix shit ton of bugs every patch the thing is how do you fix it? 1st of all the code is a mess so changing one thing might break something else. 2nd a lot of longstanding bugs are hard to reproduce like the invisible nunu
"Why do they keep adding things when they don't address so many fundamental issues that still exist?" Because the game would die. It's rare for games who dont get new things to live.
@@rajder656 you work in Riot ?
@@xenomorph2258 no i just have half a brain and basic reading/hearing comprehension
@@rajder656 really? sure you are so rational that's why we have even voice packs, right? (official ones)
no they are just lazy and greedy obviously, don't just believe whatever you hear/read from everyone - the wolf disguises itself as a sheep.
All this talk about the game and comparing this year to the previous ones, really got me thinking about all the time I put into this game. In the end, about two weeks ago, I decided not to play it, and they have been one of the best weeks in a year.
Same here, everything seems better since I uninstalled.
idk, just play with friends and troll.
If league effected you like this, you weren't pacing yourself at all.
@@apolonier11 I think 90% of people that say stuff like this are actually insane.
Like if you let a video game do something like this to you, I don't think you're cut out to play games. Because games are for you to have fun and if you put so much unnecessary stress on yourself that you're happy while not playing. You missed the point of playing in the first place
@@AStrangeTrapthe fun part of this game is supposed to be competitively ranking up, thats what riot promotes and rewards you for every year. the problem with this game is that most average joes are so unskilled but the game appears so casual they cant even tell that other players far more skilled. i jungle, so i have an app that checks peoples solo queue ranks, kda and win rates for when i play flex q. occasionally ill see matches where bronze or iron solo q players lane against golds, plats and sometimes diamond solo q players unknowingly. generally these people will flame because they are ignorant, but if they could see ranks like me, they would accept the skill gap immediately.
one of the things that makes my blood boil, is the fact that they say... "it takes some time to make seasonal maps"... and some random dude with a team of what.... 3 - 5 people? made a functional project map, and a functional winter map.
What they say is coded language for "we could do it but don't wanna spend any ressources on it when we can dish out more skins and make fast money out off it."
I'm gonna be nice and not call you very mean words. Killerskins and others are NOT conserned about vibility of clarity. They just make cool shit. Yes i can make a map in a few hours maybe but now try this map with a 160 champions and each of their skins to make sure all of them are clearly visible is way harder than that.
@@rajder656 yeah forgot that riot only has 10 employees my bad, I should be more reasonable for this indie company.
@@Levi_Ackerman_005 let's say it takes 5 minutes to make sure each champion is visible on the map. Now multiply it by 160 and then let's be generous and assume each has 5 skins (which we know league has more than 800 skins) it's 70h of work just to test it so 8 days of playtesting it to make sure all skins and champs are visible. Go and try to do it
@@rajder656 you are just proving my point though, of those 950+ skins and champions, you need to divide it by 10 which is 95, why? because you can test 10 champions/skins per game, and that's assuming you only have 10 people working on it. So you are basically testing 10 champs/skins every 5 minutes, and by simple math (rule of three):
If 10 champs/skins...... take 5 minutes
950 champs/skins....... take 'X' minutes
(950*5) = 4,750
4,750/10 = 475 minutes (AKA 8 hours)
And this AGAIN assuming you have 10 people working on it. "it's 70h of work just to test it so 8 days of playtesting...." Plus 8 days of playtesting is not that wild for a game as big as League, considering that they DON'T have only ONE employee, so yes it's definitely doable.
I typed all of that and I realize that I was doing it wrong, is not even 950, it's 95. Which actually even proves my point even more.
And you are saying 8 days is "a lot" of playtesting... guess what? how long does it take a patch to appear on live servers AFTER it was on PBE (which PBE is literally for playtesting)? Sometimes a week (which is the bare minimum; not counting hotfixes because they need to come out as soon as possible hence the name hotfix), or sometimes 2 weeks or more depending on the patches. So 8 days of playtesting actually is nothing.
I remember when Riot said they were gonna release packs to change the announcer voice to a champ's voice as your announcer instead. Was really looking forward to that. It's been like 2-3 years now.
That's honestly hilarious considering HotS easily implemented that when they went 2.0. and their team is much, much smaller than Rito's. Blizz ofc killed that game for the same reasons Rito seemingly has. Greed. Classic.
@@franlovelsimic8421 sad that humans are so damn greedy
Technically, its been almost 5 years if you count the twitter posts teasing the new announcer voices.
League still doesn't have that? Damn. I thought they had released that.
Dota 2 have those in years 😂
you can probably do it faster than them
What it feels like for me is that League is on a timer right now, with the deadline being the summer event...if Riot doesnt deliver something big in the summer, I see League going down because at that point, too many old players would just be fed up with everything and quit for good
A lot of people are only still in league because of the stupid amounts of money they burned in this toxic dress up game and they are just waiting for the single thing that signals "league is only getting worse" to just cut their loses and turn away
Speak for yourself..everyone I know who plays prob spent like 10-20$
@@Tylerrrrrb How long have they played? My first year I spent nothing, second year I bought two skins, 4 skins in my third year, around the 6th year I bought around 200 skins, currently I have around 600 skins and have stopped spending on the game for a few months now.
@@Jay9966 Ok cause youre a loser, the game gives us skins for free..200 skins really... sad
@@Tylerrrrrb So a person that have enough disposable income and chose to put a little bit into a game he played for years is a loser?
And I started playing before loot chests were a thing.
You want to defend your poor ass friend circle and shit on me for no reason? Insecure much?
It's called sunk cost fallacy
Kinda regretted it when I didn't play doom bots back then, because I was so scared when I watched Nightblue3's gameplay. Now, I wish doom bots will return even for a week 😭 to have a break from rift's usual look.
League has become one of those games that it´s fun watching others play it and getting invested on it´s universe, but when it comes to actually play it... it´s just frustraiting doing the exact same ranked games over and over again
What universe 2 stories a year universe
what kind of cucks watched lol streamers or lcs anyway ?" if you were a good player, you learned yourself and didnt copy probuilds lets be real. the top lol streamers are some goblin looking creatures, either have goblin personalities or are scared to show their faces
It certainly still has its numbers, but theres a lot more disgruntled casual players. I used to live for the yearly map changes and things alike. Even the PVE game mode with the odyssey, as well as the winter map changes and fall map changes o.o
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where are these numbers? can you show us
@@GoAgane no cause I don’t care. Just saying what I see. Also holy necro Batman, 5 months ago lol
@@NoktakkVT you dont care ?
@@GoAgane can’t say that I do 😂
Quitting this game for good was honestly one of the best life decisions i've ever made lol. Sounds a bit over dramatic but if you go from being addicted to this game to quitting compeltely you will notice your life improves a lot.
THANK YOU OUTSIDE JOKE FOR GOING OUT OF YOUR WAY TO BE CONSTRUCTIVE
league community can be so insatiable sometimes so its nice to hear among all the other "league is dying videos".
The way I see it, Riot took time 2022 to farm minions so they could buy their Infinity Edge to help them carry in 2023
This
idk maybe riot is just weaksiding league and camping their upcoming projs
This is a top tier comment
Well League is probably a 0/10 draven then
The problem is that IE on its own is useless
Honestly, one reason why players keep coming back to League is the nostalgia factor associated with it. Back when you and your friends would play together almost every single day, seeing Faker at the finals stage, and even the 3AM grinding you would quietly do so you wouldn't wake your parents up (trust me, I've done that many times).
The best part? You probably still have a "connection" with the old champs you used to play. I'm still a Teemo OTP today, even if there's champs out there who can beat the shit out of the little demon in lane.
Was enjoying your comment until I saw teemo OTP.
We need a better balance team and a ranked team who works for the ranked players, to monitor the health of the queue and do not take 7 patches to nerf a champion it's tiring to have to deal with those toxic champions for so long! The banns are not enough right now...
yes
At about 1:36
I think also part of the reason for higher viewer ship at worlds imo is the “buffed” drop rates that were going on
True in my case
Also a good point
Hanging up the boots finally after playing this game for 10 years. Peaked Diamond 1 in Season 11, and started playing Season 3. The game is no longer fun to me, and in the worst state it has been in YEARS.
a player can download it today and hit diamond by playing Yummi and watching youtube, or picking MF and pressing R
As person that mained Support when I see what people play I can't even get back in to game. Now they take mid laners and play them as support just to deal more damage and get more kills. They destroyed one whole role. Who tf decided you can play Brand,Velkoz,Swain as support ffs.
Ghostcrawler effect
The game died a long time ago... when they removed the 3vs3 map the biggest mistake in history.
"I'm not a fan of negativity". That's the best thing that could happen to league players. People will finally escape the matrix
I feel like the new chat restriction system is awfully flawed, as long as you avoid certain "no no" words then you're fine, however if you hit one then it's instant punishment, context be damned. I even got my first chat restriction in my 10+ years of playing because someone was continually insulting my teammate, to which i responded in a not so kind manner (no threats or anything of the sort mind you). Shortly after that game i got a restriction, for sticking up for a friend (albeit in a rude/mean manner).
idk i called people pedophiles in game and nothing happned
@@rajder656 I had a guy wishing cancer on me, i called him a pathetic loser and a few other taunts for saying such shit, got chat restricted for that too. Riot knows what they're doing. :)
The brief mention of customizable summoners rift map is so underrated. Top lane choosing a mini chroma for top lane, jng doing so jungle, bot lane would conplicate things but it sounds neat. Could also be a dead-end idea with too high development cost but it's super interesting to think about.
Everyone having their own stylized lanes??? Do you know what league is made of? That is a HUGE fever dream.
@@apolonier11 :'(
Jokes aside I can see smite pet skins and alcove skins to make skins not impactful but still noticeable
Or go Dota2 style with client-side map skins
@@sacha9957 yes and make sure all 160 champions are clearly visible
@@rajder656 Like with their skins that are super clear I can't tell what humanoid champ is who anymore it's all robot/anime suits and sparkles that all look identical and their fucking skill shots
The biggest problem for me with League of Legends is the reworks. I started playing 10 years ago and about 80% of my original champion pool has been reworked... I do not like any of them anymore. Udyr was my main champ and I absolutely despise the new one. Why not just make a new champion? Why ruin the old ones?
I personally think this doesnt have to do with any of the recent issues. It has to do with a swelling dissapointment across many department. The client is STILL the worst in the industry, without Arcane (A completly deperate indevour) this game has the least accessable lore for a game this big, and the list goes on and on.
it doesnt have the least accessible lore lmao. Im not defending riot here but just go to universe and you can find all of riots lore
Plus multiple really good books, comics, videos, cinematic…
Idk man, I'm a huge souls fan and player and I'm pretty sure that lore is the least accessable.
I played all the way through Bloodborne reading everything I got and was only able to piece together little chunks of lore
@@AStrangeTrap i mean warhammer lore is pretty incaccessible. In fact games that focus on gameplay have pretty innacessible lores. According to notzelda overwatch has an even more innacessible lore
Yeah like why is TFT in the same client I don't want to touch that thing with a stick yet its showed into my face, there is so much useless garbage in this client and it even leaks memory
"Stats show LoL isn't dying, but i am feeling that it is."
I want to clarify this : one rioter talked about why the cinematic wasn't released. Cinematics are produced by other studios, and they encountered an issue (that they can't mention) that made them stop the developpement. Then they had to rush a last minute cinematic.
there seems to be a lot of omissions in this video. Like riot clarified a lot of the stuff on their twitter and even revealed quite a bit of things about whats coming and why they didnt come like rebuilding the gamemodes team after it moved to tft and that they are wokring on a new 2v2v2v2 gamemode
@@rajder656 this particular subject about video studios must be a bit touchy and they can't always legally say everything so I don't find it that strange that they omit things
@@reden666 wdym? I like outside joke but he basically omitted everything that happened after the cinematic released. Like riot explaining that because of something out of their control the original cinematic couldn't be released, that they're gonna be more transparent and already gave us a lot about what's coming like new game modes, better events, new stuff for the events, etc. A lot of the stuff that is very important. There's also the fact that budget for league for this year is the highest it's ever been. Oh and the reason why 2022 was dull. To simply put 2022 reflected the state riot has been in the previous year
@@rajder656 I think it's either in the contract that they are not legally to share the information or that they don't want to tarnish their partner by admitting the studio's short coming struggle. You can hate Riot at anything, but most Riot's marketing uses a lot of outsourcing. So this time you can't really blame them at this 1 particular problem.
@@cloudynguyen6527 OK WHAT? who's not legally able to share the information? Take a deep breath and read what i wrote. Riot said the cinematic thing was out of their control so they quickly made this one. There was a lot of info released about what's coming, the budget for this year for league is highest than it's ever been. Oh and the state of league last year reflected the previous year because they needed to rehire a bunch of people.
If they do decide to kill off the game, which I spent a ton of money on. I at least expect some compensation. These are things I bought and own, if the game is unplayable then I want my money back. Or some of it.
Other thing that rub people the wrong way is how much League seems to be biased with their priorities, instead of fixing things that need to be fixed, they focus on things they know will bring them money on the short run.
Case on point: Ahri´s visual update
I can name from the top of my head a lot more champs that are on a desesperated need of one instead of Ahri:
Anivia
Corki
Amumu
Malphite
Tryndamere
Lux
Shyvana
Jarvan IV
Nocturne
Kennen
Singed
Nautilus
Lee Sin
Skarner (RIP my guy, after a whole year of the poll, Riot said they have barely started to work on it)
Cho´Gath
Jax
Zilean
Vayne
Olaf
Malzahar
Janna
@@sadvec6328 "When selecting the next ASU, we take into account many factors such as everything we talked about above, and things like tech debt and complexity, art quality, or champion popularity." Jax literally just got an ASU, skarner is getting a rework so why include him, nautilus is doing more than fine same with almost every single champion in here
I think Riot is tired of League and maybe they should consider to collaborate with the community, Valve allowed Dota players to make their own content within the game, allowing cosmetics, improve the tutorial and custom gamemodes which one of them is Auto Chest where Riot copied it into TFT.
League community not getting their daily buffet of content: 😡
TF2 with no active developers at all:😁👍
league's house is still burning and still has a chance to be saved but tf2 is already the ashes in the dirt so players just "hakuna matata" their remaining days😂😂
The chat restriction is one of the biggest reason that I quit. It doesn’t work good like you said I honestly am not a toxic player, never ever got the slightest punishment from riot in any of my accounts an have over 5000 hours of gameplay total. And after the chat restriction update 1 in every to games I get completely chat banned because I told my 0/6 overextended adc yasuo to stay under the fucking tower? Now I haven’t been playing the game for months now after I got a 2 week chat ban. I can’t be the only one that thinks like this cmon.
Riot will take 2 days to change a skin based on opinions but will take one whole year to change the approach of the game state.
That says a lot to me.
Who would have thought that changing assets and animations is easier than changing how teams inside a corporation work 🤯
Mr Krab: Money!
Since 2023 started my time in league went from 10 games a day to 10 games since the year started till now and 5 of them are custom 1v1s and im guess im not the only one affected :)
Yes, it's been dead. There just hasn't been anything to replace it.
And one of biggest reason you didn't mention league of legends is dying or why bad it is there biased balancing changes
Having many and unique gamemodes is also a way to get new players , it will help them grow
Have you played overwatch recently though? That game is packed with different game modes and maps and the players still hate it.
I'd have to see how the fans react if they got everything they say would make the game better
THis here is the reason why solo Q (league of legends) is so bad. GO add more game modes so that the league of legends team is distracted with stupid modes instead of fixing bugs or making Solo q playable.
Modern league is like when they made nuclear bombs. They knew one push of a button and it's all over.
Best time for this video, League is offline hahahah😓
mines working, had to log on to check after I saw your comment lmfao NA server
@@thedeadliest4380 is it eune only? me and my friends cant log in.
@@veronikasivakova8387 euw also 😅
Tried the game today. I play a lot of MOBAs (Smite, Dota 2, Arena of Valor, Onmyoji arena, Pokémon unite...) and I can safely say the clunky menus, bugs and boring gameplay made it seem like the worst MOBA I have played so far. Now I am aware that Lol requires some time to be fun as we learn it, but I'm still fully willing to believe it's dying and a lot less willing to give it time (edit: in its current state) when I like the other options better.
it s the 100000. video about league dying but it ll never die because it s competetive and online which you can easily play with your friends. it doesnt repeat the same thing over and over not every match is the same with an old one and it makes you feel competetive feelings which kinda triggers you to keep on playin. skins make you feel more important and kinda special same for the masteries. we are addicted and we wonder how the games and the players are doin even though some or many of us have stopped playing. it s fun to watch because it s not you that suffers while you watch. league has a big base community and people dont really want to stop quitting just because they tilted. i stopped because i have some things to do and it affects my whole life so i quitted.but some players are still playing for a bit of fun or for competetive reasons such as streaming and esports or illegal stuff. league always gets updates and it gets some things on the name of LoL (but never in the game, we know what happens inside the game it s shit). as conclusion we are just addicted and probably wont let the game go of our lives
Nah i got banned for feeding , I'm free of this crap
@@qspr321 i want to say congratulations my clown friend i hope you a better future and a better mindset
Bro in lol you do the same every fkn game. Its just different champ its always the same
@@ACowIsHuge yes i know
i was wrong same shit happens same bans same picks all the time
Its litteraly first time in years i dont feel like playing the game.
Not being able to dodge people by stalking them made the game entirely coinflip. I didnt even finish my placements while normally, i get 100+ games early season to try hit gm early season
I think that your take on the state of league is very hopeful, but for somebody that’s also been playing for years are growing real tired of them but I do appreciate your points. Part of me has given up on Riot ever actually caring about what the community has to say. But hopefully with enough, TH-camrs and other people like you guys bringing it to the attention that everybody’s fed up, did they actually do something after all these years
Once they grew past being a mid-sized company or being bought out, they start to just don't care at all, super especially if their industry is about games, they'll just think everyone was just whiny kids.
League is just a fundraiser for other projects, nowadays.
@@MangaGamified THIS. 100% the game, League that started it all is being neglected and treated like you say, as a way to generate revenue so they cane make other projects and expand. Well Said. If more people understood this or cared enough, maybe the gaming industry wouldn't be diluted by monetization decisions for casual players with their pussy 'star guardian' skins
ive been playing for a few years, but I basically stopped since september. I was around level 330, but finally stopped playing mostly cuz the friends I used to play with also mostly quit, and its not fun solo queueing anymore.
My theory for why they didn't say anything about the 2v2v2v2 mode was well... because it's Riot. Recently they've stretched their teams very thin and with new people with less experience they weren't sure how long the mode would take to come out and the community is already giving them hate due to no big news about Skarner. Having another "teaser" leaning over us once again would just be more aggrivating.
I do think that the mode was planned before the whole fiasco (hell when riot talked about the hack, they mentioned game *modes* so the might have more stuff planned), but l do agree that it was put as more of a priority due to the backlash
yeah, and they promised weekly rotational game-modes waaaaay before the hack... and waaaaaay before their teams ran very thin... what's their excuse to that, huh? this company is actual dogwater. And sadly, people still drink it like it is champagne.
@@Levi_Ackerman_005 then why do you interact with the community then? If you hate the game, just don't get near any news about it.
I seriously don't understand people like you. They love shitting on riot yet will never actually leave it.
This video was very important for the community. Thank you!
the timing tho...
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I was on a phone with a friend few hours ago, talking about how LoL is dying and how Riot doesn't give a shit about players, only money. And this video pops up in my suggested feed. Guess my feeling about the game isn't only me.
I love that people realize the state of lol because riot has released a bad cinematic now and not because of the changes they have been making to the game since 2019
People have realized it, the cinematic was just the breaking point that united everyone
@@OutsideJoke Lets call this the "Tencent incident"
got the porofessor ad that is you speaking right before this video and it threw me off lmfao
"All Riot had to do was communicate this with us and the league community would be lot more understanding"
Best joke of 2023 so far
i mean they ended up doing that so
I know this is almost impossible at this point, but i would love to have more moba options to take care of this league of legends burnout feeling im always having.
Pokemon unite, smite, heroes of the storm, and Dota 2 are all good mobas. All have major advantages to play over league.
if this game disappeared or they randomly shut down all servers, I would be so happy I hate this game yet addicted like many of us this game is the worst rabbit hole to ever go into
$37,000 en solo dos semanas, Sr. ALEXANDER BEN MARASHLIAN, la gente buena todavía existe.😍💰
Lo mismo aquí, comencé con $ 16,000 y ahora estoy ganando $ 62,100 en ganancias quincenales con su programa comercial.
El Sr. ALEXANDER B. MARASHLIAN ha sido el único que ha manejado mi operación durante meses sin ningún tipo de falla comercial y sigo obteniendo ganancias todas las semanas. También ganó $22,240 la semana pasada.
Realmente has escuchado mucho sobre Alexander, por favor, ¿puedo tener tu información?
EE.UU.👇🏼
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The actual problem is the heavy requirements for the game to run properly, many friends stop playing for that we were like 20 and now we are 3
Good to see a video like this. Made with love ❤
I joined league in October 2022, playing it non-stop, game feels great for a new player like me
I think I’m not the only person who just joined league and is enjoying it, so game will hopefully last for a few more years
Glad youre still enjoying it, but ive been playing for three years myself (which isnt that long tbh) but ive been getting a bit bored. Like nothing new ever happens and the 'events' are just skin releases that's all and its sad. Plus all the other things OJ said in this video... hf and gl on ur games :)
@@EK909 luckily theyre working ob a new Gamemode with (probably, IT wouldnt make Sense on sr) a new map
@@blutwirbel3180 i wouldnt be surprised if they cannceled the project all together cuz it got too difficult💀
I been playing since 2013 and I love the game but riot has been slipping hard
@@realpatty frfr
Great timing XD
Euw down?
but anyway still better than Dota2
Good joke
Fat W
I wanna see who's Esports scene will last longer with all those issues they both have.
I'm done playing both games.
Dota is definitely harder and more complicated, but harder and more complicated doesn't make a better game; If that's how it works, then rts and mmorpgs should be dominating gaming for decades and it doesn't.
@@VanxHelsing03 I would argue being too complicated drives casuals away from a game and the casuals make 90% of the playerbase and as much for viewers of esports
Its not dying, its just growing in Asia while shrinking in NA/EU
League feels awful to play right now, games are decided by the 10 min mark, there's no point in putting in the effort to comeback, you waste less time going straight into the next game and flip the coin again. Champions scale way too easily, perma gank junglers have no punishment on constantly ganking a lane and neglecting jungle camps, top laners don't care if they go 0/20, they still get tanky and with enough mobility they can just perma split with no drawback, depending if the coin flip on draft was in their favor. This is a concurrent vicious cycle that affects games below high diamond, players don't understand macro, don't know the limits of their champions or how to play them, there's simply too many mistakes to be commited by your teammates at any given time frame of execution where you as a single player can't control. The game is simply toxic to play right now, anyone who plays any role except jungler doesn't have any fun or agency while playing the game. When I end a game I don't feel excited I won, I feel relived it's over.
damn it’s people like you on my teams that give up and spam ff15 in chat. i’ve been in comebacks many times, two since yesterday. collecting drakes and a well timed baron can completely change the game at any moment
The community is part of what is killing it for me personally. It feels like the people who play it now either don’t care to win OR have fun, or take it way too seriously and backseat everything you do.
The balance it wack and they aren’t proactive enough with changes, and anytime they do something cool with skins and such, I don’t want to use them because the balance team lacks. People also started listening to Tyler1 and other creators, but with the wrong context. Like, people use the valid complaints of their favorite creators to just hate anything Riot, but that doesn’t help anything. They’ll see Rioters in game and treat all of them like they are the balance team. Riot is a huge company with a LOT of different teams, but a portion of the community can’t grasp that.
CS:GO players receiving no new content a very minor changes for over a decade: Yeah, this game is great! Feels like it'll never die!
LoL players when Riot releases a skin cinematic, 2 event cinematic, an event music video cinematic, 2 champion cinematics, but new season cinematic was meh: OmG RiTo Is TrYiNg To KiLl ThIs GaMe!!!!
13:39 Huh? Did I just hear that right? All I hear from ppl is how typing is pointless now cuz everything gets you muted, how is that "A lot better"?
Okay, we all know the whole indie company gag but seriously, Riot is a multi billion dollar company. There is literally zero excuse for them neglecting the game that got them started.
Agree with everything, except the chat restriction system, IMO at best it didn't change anything at worst it made the game worse. I don't care if someone says a no no word, not being able to communicate at all with a teammate is a horrible experience just because he said a bad word cus of one tilting moment. You have mute buttons if you are that hurt by mean words just mute them yourself, why does there need to be a system that mutes people without my consent, what if I dont mind the banter?
Great video, dude. Keep it up.
No game mode for years ? Wasn’t Ultimate spell book released in 2022 ?
LEZZZ GO the video I wanted to make if I can and the video we needed
You are a sheep if you think you'll be able to change anything just by complaining a little and then still just continuing to play the game and do everything the same. If we want to actually save the game, then we need to take radical steps towards it, such as the death threats you mentioned, we need to show riot how much we hate them, and treat them the way they treat us. Boycott them, harass them, threaten them... just do everything in our power to make them annoyed, upset, disturbed, etc.
worlds viewership exists for 70 % only because of the quests. litterally just 4 tabs with 2x speed on 144p
I play this game since 2014, and i normally i binged league,but the only reason i keep playing is, skins i payed for and battle passes, friends start to quit and the coms are so bad by new people who int harder then we did in the start
Decided to play a match after six months and was the worst mistake I made. I was able to outplay my opponent and my jungler refused to help but saw that my laner was low and wanted to KS. Got first blood and the jungler had a mental breakdown because I did not give the kill to him even though I was the one who rightfully deserved it. Dude raged quit and had to ff at 15. Haven't touched league since that time.
I've personally found League a bit hit-or-miss since the Mythic items. It's trivialized most builds - and you just NEED to buy one, and in some cases it feels bad.
I played League for 8 years now...Nowadays it's just overwelming with these gay pride bullshit and the nőn existing champ and item balance
Oh no. don't let the sjw's hear you. otherwise you will be accused of homophobic for being enough of their bs xD I'm pretty sure getting bashed by "open minded" ppl like them wouldn't be good
They don't even support the LGBT community or BLM like they say they do. I got banned for telling a racist that called me the n word to shut the the fuck up. I've seen so much outright homophobic and transphobic shit from chat to in-game names and those accounts are still active.
@@pahlawanbertopeng2351 isn't it funny how they're "open-minded" but can't accept people who has different opinion or perspective than what they have? 😂
And to all of that i tried playing league today with some friends but none of us were able to even launch the game
Damn, this is some quality info feed! I like your optimism as I've been dipping my toes into this game since I quit mid-season 6. However the optics are quite damning - I think it's painfully obvious that Riot's management considers LoL a done game that's been developed enough and is now brought to a state they're more than happy with - just bringing them the quite comfortable passive income from skin sales. If you look outside of LoL's sphere and consider the broad picture of the online PC gaming industry, it's pretty clear Riot's ambitions are conquering a significant chunk of that with their upcoming projects - especially their MMORPG
The game back then was slower paced by design, not as much mobility, true damage, % health damage existed, you could actually Solo Carry Games, there was no turret shut down gold, no tower platings, Xp was distributed differently, no 1000 Gold Shut down that is given to you by a nonsensical system, Rift Herald did not exist to push in turrets, Dragons gave Gold not buffs, so no random factor there either, ap supports did not have that much Gold on their hands supports were actually that, supports, supporting. Not Senna as a 2nd adc, or Pyke with a Darius ultimate that teleports him around, Ap Supports, if played, did not have enough money to stack Ap Items only, they had to buy wards and Items to support their team. The annoying plants did not exist and champions were not designed so that some korean shoutcaster can scream his lungs out 5 Minutes into the Game in bot lane, seriously Proplay being such a cashcow was one of the worst things that ever happened for the Games overall health.
Did ultimate spellbook have any announcement at least half a year in advance? I dont remember that, I'm pretty sure if there was any announcement it happened literally just before the event happened, that's why I disagree that if they were working on the new game mode earlier they would've announced it earlier
yesterday i lost a game at 23 minutes, an enemy arhi an jhin with 3 items an baron pushed mid and ended the game, for me league feels like a mobile game, games constantly ending from 20-30 mins range... For me league is over
I played on Garena SG server; since they shut it there I don't play league any more as the best ping I can play on is 160-200 on EUW.
You know its serious when Outside Joke starts taking
I think ill still try 2 improve myselft but just now at this time and date im not able 2 login into my acc... :((
The LoL we all used to love died a long time ago, what we have today is just a cash grab. But the game will never die because of the casual players, because for them it doesnt matter the game is broken, they will still spend money and thats what keeps this game alive.
I just quit a week or two ago and have never felt better
8:16 Nah, Riot Brightmoon or Meddler could have easily said, "Wait, this ain't right. Our community deserves better." But they didn't. No one from Riot thought, "wow this cinematic is ass." 100% just trying to cover their ass.
it died a long time ago but now people are noticing ....
It "taking time" to re-use old map suggest that the people who could do it quickly no longer work for the company. Wouldn't surprise me if the office is now 90% corporate types and 10% technical talent.
I think another problem might be that riot said "when we release game mode we lose players afterwards". What they don't realize is that these gamemode were the thing that kept us coming back again and again. I'm now a retired LoL player since years and I play TfT, so I know about LoL as I see the starting page and events all the time but there is nothing catching me. Even urf doesn't catch me anymore as I know they only release it for the purpose of catching retired players and I won't fall for that.
Sometimes you have to make sacrifices for the long term gain.
Great video!
Tbh,the only reason I'm still playing this game is because there isn't a game like it,the first second a game similar to this releases I'm legit dropping it
i really thought it was gonna be black for the entire vid until i started scrolling and it was changing colors in the back
I am a new player and after reaching level 31 I think k the game is not meant for OGs - I tried ranked thinking I’ll get placement matches with other new people but ended up in a plat lobby twice then lost 19 ranked games where the game refused to put me lower than Gold 4 - I am so new to the game I think that it’s unfair for others to play with me- why can’t I play with just other new players? Unless riot hates new players and only wants a game with old players
Your voice is cursed/blessed to sound happy and positive no matter what.
After all the bullshit I’ve put up with since season 2 I’ve finally snapped and quit the game. Seeing how the company had changed for worse, and believe me riot used to be know for being very responsive and communicative. Everything that I loved about this game is long gone , dead and buried. All they care about now is new ahri/lux/akali skins and not about the game itself. They make huge amounts of money from league and can’t dedicate a team for events? Is that the company you want to support? How many more chances are you gonna give RIOT before you realise they don’t care. Next season will be better *hits copium* give riot a chance *copium hit*. If the only thing holding you to the game is addiction you should really “look in the mirror” and realise what the fuck you’re doing. Any other company pulling what riot is pulling at the moment would be scrutinised and would see a massive drop in playerbase, but the league community has been so whipped that they just take it. Barely anyone is having fun but everyone is still playing. Great strategy against sheep riot.
imagine theres special custom narrators for rp
like ahri/rhaast/gp
and smth more
I think you are being over positive, its higly likely it was just a corporate response (damage contro) rather than an actual change of perspective. Also, I feel you are also having too much empathy towards their decissions, I sadly feel League is not fun as it could potentially be, nor Riot has the love and care for the game and its community ever since some years ago, just check at the changes: they state of the game looks somehow selfish, and that is really weird.
I've been positive about League for years. But this is it. This is the final season. The worst of it all is I know I'll stop playing once the welcome event from sea server launch and URF is gone. I can't expect anything from Riot doing League service. The game's future looks so bleak it might as well be a dead game right now. League is not leaving with a bang, but a whimper.