The Sinking of MV Queen of the North

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  • @evanputterill8286
    @evanputterill8286 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Some RoRo ferries may be inherently unstable; the Queen of the North was not. She often sailed the Prince Rupert to Skidegate route across the Hecate and I was on in a few sailings in over 5m seas. She could handle it, and was fairly comfortable in seas up to 3m. No problem handling rough weather.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow! Thank you for your perspective! I love your input and the fact you have experience with this vessel before her sinking. Thank you so, so much for sharing that with me!

    • @michaelimbesi2314
      @michaelimbesi2314 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The issue with RORO stability is that the large open spaces of the car deck become a problem if water gets onto them. It’s not a problem unless the ship is flooding

    • @evanputterill8286
      @evanputterill8286 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelimbesi2314 the Queen of the North had a fully enclosed car deck.

    • @WW-sj7zk
      @WW-sj7zk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s not saying much.. been fishing the strait in a 45’ boat in same or sometimes worse conditions for decades. This disaster was complete bridge crew incompetence. They should all be in prison still to this day. Listen to the VHF recordings from that night… disgusting.

  • @edwinacaparelli9911
    @edwinacaparelli9911 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I research in the Queen of the North incident and the autopilot would not change the maneuvers it would just keep the ship in a steady course in one line they would have to turn it off for the next turn

  • @murraystewartj
    @murraystewartj ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A friend of mine worked aboard vessels for BC Ferries and took his duties seriously. Not so much many of his crew mates, the union or the company. It wasn't unusual to have crew members who were supposed to be doing car deck patrols (looking for things like fuel leaks) away from their posts in the crew lounge or even having sex on the clock. Friend reported this through the chain of command and nothing was done. Well, two things were done - he had a crew member butt a cigarette out on his chest and two others told him he "could go overboard" right quick if he didn't keep his mouth shut. Friend had a wife and kids so transfered to shore duty to save his life. This was through the "Wrath of Hahn" era and there's little evidence things have improved since. And it's a travesty that the new vessel on that route wasn't named Queen or Spirit of Hartley Bay as a tribute to a small indigenous community that saved and supported so many.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Holy cow! Thank you so much for that perspective. I'm glad your friend took his duties seriously and that is so alarming how they treated him! I wish him well in life moving forward. Cheers!

  • @zombieshoot4318
    @zombieshoot4318 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Knowing the layout is good. Also have a small pocket flashlight.

  • @michaeltutty1540
    @michaeltutty1540 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A very interesting video indeed. She was a truly beautiful ship. As an aside, Sir Wilfred Laurier was a Canadian Prime Minister. Being of French Canadian lineage, his name is pronounced Lor-Ee-ay.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!!

    • @fritzbasset8645
      @fritzbasset8645 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A great man, with a superb hotel named after him in Ottawa.

  • @thereissomecoolstuff
    @thereissomecoolstuff ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You can tell when you are really enthralled with a story. Familiar with the story. Forgot it was 2006. 17 years ago and it seems like yesterday. What strikes me is why they didn’t run the ship aground saving everything. The actions by the captain after impact and finally how deep the water is relatively close to shore. 1400’ or 426 meters is quite a depth so close. The peaks you see in the picture go straight down. That’s also why ships can’t anchor there.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's incredible! Thank you for sharing that. I didn't know they couldn't anchor there! I really found this story fascinating with how much controversy is surrounding it. 2006 feels so long ago yet not at all at the same time!!

    • @thereissomecoolstuff
      @thereissomecoolstuff ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shipwrecksunday I think you told it very well. You did it chronologically and didn’t give any surprises away. This was good you two.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thereissomecoolstuff thanks so much!!!

    • @glenistergrotj3022
      @glenistergrotj3022 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thereissomecoolstuff Yes, I’m shocked by how deep the water is right off the shore. The queen of the north is probably resting on a steep underwater incline.

  • @dianabranson3585
    @dianabranson3585 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They call them Roll on Roll over for a reason. 😢

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep! They are so dangerous!

    • @dianabranson3585
      @dianabranson3585 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shipwrecksunday I have been looking forward to a video on the MV Thomas Aquinas. I have seen some of the body recovery mission footage and what those divers went through to pull it off. Just such a shame when these things happen and you learn how unsafe/unstable they are. And as you point out human error tends to be a huge factor in a majority of these cases.

  • @joerivanlier1180
    @joerivanlier1180 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am pretty sure the ECDIS would have been blaring at them, off track and on a grounding vector.. Unless they toned the volume down because they were busy with "other" things of(f) course

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right? There had to have been warning signs. I don't understand how tragedies like this happen so easily and readily!

  • @BMTEnjoyer160
    @BMTEnjoyer160 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Time to see this disturbing story SS Artic was worse

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think disasters are all relative and that they shouldn't necessarily be compared and contrasted as "worse" or "as bad as (insert shipwreck)". SS Arctic was tragic and I did cover her and her sister ship, SS Pacific.

  • @OldShippinglines
    @OldShippinglines ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dear Miss Elinor,
    Once again, I must express my admiration for your latest video. It was truly terrifying to see the ship sinking stern-first. Additionally, I greatly appreciate how comprehensively you covered the aftermath of the sinking. Your work is truly remarkable, Miss. Thank you.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much, sir!! I appreciate it!!

  • @davidjackson563
    @davidjackson563 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having had some involvement in the investigation this is not a bad video, There are a few minor errors and interesting ways to pronounce names. What was not mentioned is why the bridge crew failed to ensure that the correct turn was made and then for the subsequent 14 minutes until grounding did not monitor the ship's position. It also fails to explain why only 2 people on the bridge in bad weather at night when in constricted waters requiring critical changes of course.

  • @Silentservice77
    @Silentservice77 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Before watching this i had seen the disasters at sea documentary and it said that the sea control the ship was in contact with didn't believe the ships position in any of the 3 attempts the crew made to let them know where they were when they sent out their mayday.

  • @Ro6entX
    @Ro6entX ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Any loss of life in a ship sinking, let alone at all, is tragic but fact only two died, is “low” with all things considered. I noticed you were thinking of covering the MV Sewol; that is definitely going to be a rough one to cover

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm thankful the death toll in this one was low, and it's still sad and tragic but it is much easier to swallow than something like MV Salem Express. I am looking into MV Sewol! That one will be tough.

    • @outsidersongs2682
      @outsidersongs2682 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@shipwrecksundaySewol is an awful one because it just defies any explanation and people just watched, for days, right there on scene as children drowned 😢 and it was one when the captain did a runner too. I will be honest, it haunted me for some time. There was no reason for any person to die in that one, no reason at all.

  • @nathanielpatterson-rc9dq
    @nathanielpatterson-rc9dq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even as someone who's had a lifelong fascination for shipwreck stories, I never knew about this disaster until now.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a really sad one! We finish this story this Sunday!

    • @nathanielpatterson-rc9dq
      @nathanielpatterson-rc9dq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On a lighter note, I've visited the city where the ship was registered.

  • @OceanChannelProductions
    @OceanChannelProductions ปีที่แล้ว +5

    amazing work! I have researched this for a long time and i think this is the best video on the topic so far. i find it interesting how the crew also failed to give there position 3 times, and how lilgert reported he saw a ship that wasn't reported on the radar, he was looking for it then crashed. also 3:44 this is the other queen of surrey, she still exists today.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for your corrections, your additions to the research, and for being here!! I really appreciate it!!!

    • @edwinacaparelli9911
      @edwinacaparelli9911 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi I watch the ocean Channel a lot and my two favourite videos are the queen of New Westminster tour the Queen of the North and the one where that person talk to all bad about BC ferries and then where you over viewed that

    • @edwinacaparelli9911
      @edwinacaparelli9911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually three favourite videos😅

    • @OceanChannelProductions
      @OceanChannelProductions ปีที่แล้ว

      thx@@edwinacaparelli9911

  • @Eric_Hutton.1980
    @Eric_Hutton.1980 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know someone via Facebook that was on the Herald of Free Enterprise when she went over.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Damn! That must've been frightening! I did cover that story, as well - it was so tragic.

  • @glenistergrotj3022
    @glenistergrotj3022 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m curious what state the wreck is in now, after more than 15 years underwater. It would be interesting to do a detailed expedition to go to the wreck again and explore the interior.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@glenistergrotj3022 it's in really cold water, so it might be preserved pretty well. I'd assume it's in a similar state to MS Estonia or MV Salem Express!

    • @glenistergrotj3022
      @glenistergrotj3022 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@shipwrecksunday Definitely. It also depends on the acidity and type of bacteria in the water. The titanic is in a highly acidic environment with bacteria that are eating the ship apart. I’m not sure what kind of microbes would be deteriorating the queen if the north.

  • @notoriouzb.i.g7415
    @notoriouzb.i.g7415 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ahh I spy a new video glad to sey u guys again tho I sadly don't watch the videos as much I've just been going thru stuff and just relaxing atm

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey its great to see you! Sometimes you just need to take it easy! Life gets hard. Glad to see you again!

  • @EchiLoki
    @EchiLoki 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great story. I grew up taking that ferry from Prince Rupert to Haida Gwaii. I was off at college in the interior when it sank. Couldn't believe it. Although, to be honest, that ferry fell off as soon as they took away the mortal kombat arcade! Oh, only thing that pulled me out of it was the pronunciation of Hecate Strait. "Heck-et" Or if you say it casual enough, it's just "heck-it". Minor nitpick though. Great research!

  • @MrPointmidget
    @MrPointmidget 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gerald Foisy had a warrant out for his arrest. They absolutely made it off the ship and took the opportunity to disappear. There have been sitings of Shirley in Alaska.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting! Thank you for this!

  • @sreed8570
    @sreed8570 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It couldn't be any more ridiculous, ship runs aground, meaning there was less than 17 feet of water when the ship was damaged, yet her final resting position is 4000 feet deep. That to me is the criminal action of the crew. Had they stopped the ship directly after grounding it would have settled on the bottom in shallow water.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Totally agree! To me this is clearly criminal negligence and downright stupidity at play!

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@markpimlott2879 please be kind in our comments section - constructive criticism and corrections are always welcome but need to be said kindly!

    • @Rayman1971
      @Rayman1971 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's a steep dropoff around most of the channels/islands etc. Some places it's a 90 degree straight drop

    • @ludicrousmodel3173
      @ludicrousmodel3173 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The wreck is 427 meters deep

  • @jamesgraham6122
    @jamesgraham6122 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a sad and tragic loss of life and a perfectly sound vessel, plus the unnecessary trauma to those not mentally equipped for those circumstances, simply passengers with no sea-going experience.. all because of the careless attitude to their responsibilities by the crew. It doesn't take the skills of a master mariner to ensure that a vessel is following a pre-programmed course already plotted and shown distinctly on a modern navigation display.. it would indicate immediately if the vessel's position was even a few meters off course. If I'd lost a close relative as a result of their negligence I'd make sure they never enjoyed another sleepless night.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree! It was complete ignorance on their part and mind boggling.

  • @The_Dudester
    @The_Dudester ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Grammar police here:
    Bremerhaven is pronounced Bremer-hah-vin
    W in German is pronounced as a V, so Wemer should have been pronounced as Vaymer.
    (Sorry, German is my second language).

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great to see you!! No offense taken here! German is one I struggle with so I appreciate your help with it! Cheers!

  • @Trump985
    @Trump985 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a merchant mariner I don’t believe either explanation. This sounds like a clear cut example of falling asleep on watch. Chances are there was only one person on the bridge who it was we will never know. They fell asleep and missed the turn. Chances are one of them was dealing with a problem somewhere else on the vessel or possibly in the head and or galley for an extended time, and the other fell asleep in the chair. Now this is just my opinion but it has been know to happen. I always stand my watch because it’s pretty damn hard to fall asleep when standing! I don’t see having sex or a fight causing this situation, and unless a greenhorn deckhand was left at the helm the didn’t know how to disconnect the auto pilot, let alone simply use the autopilot to turn the vessel story is bullshit. This is in my opinion a clear cut example of falling asleep on watch if I’ve heard one.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey, I love hearing from experienced mariners and I appreciate your perspective on this sinking! I think that is always a possibility to consider, and I'm glad you pointed that out! Thank you so much!

  • @steveshattuck8128
    @steveshattuck8128 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting story and they only lost two people thankfully still sad though 😔. She collided with an island but sank stern first I find this very odd😱😱😱😱😱😱

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right?? It's very odd to me as well! Thanks for your support, it's so good to see you!

    • @steveshattuck8128
      @steveshattuck8128 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shipwrecksunday Awwwwww thanks 😁

    • @Silentservice77
      @Silentservice77 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@shipwrecksundayI think it went stren first due to the free surface effect on the car deck making the water pool at the stern. And so it went stern first

  • @Vet-7174
    @Vet-7174 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good presentation Elinor , Another disaster i didn't know about !

  • @vilstef6988
    @vilstef6988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About the only boat I can name which sank by the stern is the Pere Marquette 18 on Lake Michigan.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting! I'll have to look that one up!

    • @Silentservice77
      @Silentservice77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@shipwrecksundayanother one is Estonia her self most reports I have seen say she went stren first after she capsized

  • @nordisk1874
    @nordisk1874 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big paws to fill after The Queen Peaches episode! Queen of The North could go there almost… i never understood how a Stena vessel not as ice class. The MV Expedition the Mv Explorer’s replacement is a sister so that’s why I’m like no ice class? Sinking by the stern it’s a RORO. I worked on one of only two ferries on the east coast with a visor aka a bow door we had Estonia pins as they were called to keep the bow from rising in seas. Hmm that sounds like similar to the real story of the Exxon Valdez. Similar story of sex.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll have to look into Exxon Valdez! I've heard of that one just from being alive but haven't researched it! RORO ferries are finicky creatures. Someone in the comments told me they should really be called Roll On Roll OVER ferries, and I kind of agree with that, sadly! They aren't super stable. Thank you so much! Great to see you!!

    • @nordisk1874
      @nordisk1874 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shipwrecksunday yea you won’t find the real reason in the records, on the Valdez it’s the word of mouth. It’s a small community with stories. But if you are on Long Island and ever want to take a ferry from Port Jefferson or orient point take the Park City or her older sister the Mary Ellen and you can experience something that you can’t get in this country. Especially out of Orient Point.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nordisk1874 that's great to know, thank you so much! Cheers, friend!!

  • @alextheboatguy399
    @alextheboatguy399 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your videos are amazing, I had watched a documentary on this sinking and you explained the story very well

  • @NoahMDub
    @NoahMDub ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well done Elinor! This sinking could’ve been avoided so easily had it not been for all that NSFW stuff happening on the bridge! Since there’s probably more of that stuff happening in all the Below Deck series, it’s strange how those ships haven’t sunk already, lol!
    The oil and fuel spill is also terrible, and if you get the chance, I recommend covering the explosion and sinking of the Deepwater Horizon. It caused the worst oil spill ever in US history, and the movie was especially well made.
    Anyways, keep up the good work and I look forward to the next video! (PS, the interview with Peaches was awesome!)

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! I'll definitely have to check into Deepwater Horizon - I've not covered oil spills like that before! Lol Below Deck is really lucky they haven't had a situation like this!! Cheers!!

  • @Rayman1971
    @Rayman1971 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bang Crash Ferries!

  • @MatthewHowell44
    @MatthewHowell44 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice vid

  • @sedatedape315
    @sedatedape315 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now this one I should have heard of since it happened so recently. Alas I rely on your research and work to find out about this tragedy. 👍
    Originally laying charges against the helms woman was ridiculous. It's not like she, or any person at the helm of a ship, was in control of where the ship is supposed to be going. They only take direction/orders from the officer who has "the deck" at the time. It's not like the driver of a car, truck, or bus. Suggestion and comments should always be offered by all persons on the bridge of a commercial ship. But in the end it's the officer of the deck, and the captain, that should take all responsibility for what happens (good or bad) with the ship under their command.
    You've done an excellent job, again, bringing this incident to light for all to learn about.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much for your insight! Cheers, friend!

  • @johnengland8619
    @johnengland8619 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks again for the content

  • @kcstafford2784
    @kcstafford2784 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hello Elenors mom...

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kcstafford2784 she says Hello!

  • @edwinacaparelli9911
    @edwinacaparelli9911 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video thoe

  • @chasjetty8729
    @chasjetty8729 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks again friends.

  • @vilstef6988
    @vilstef6988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good storytelling, Elinor!
    Some years ago, I handled a customer service call with a lady on one of these ferries. We had an interesting visit, and she told me she took the ferry a couple time a week.

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!! That's very interesting - I've never been on a ferry like that. I've been on a short one to take me out to Ellis Island, but that's it! Cheers!

    • @vilstef6988
      @vilstef6988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shipwrecksunday Being deep inland I've never been on one either, except for one crossing the Missouri. It was a paddlewheel barge!

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vilstef6988 I feel you - I'm pretty inland myself! The vessels I see are speedboats and fishing boats on lakes typically! Cheers!

  • @AlexHopkins-lm9hx
    @AlexHopkins-lm9hx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pls do the sewol or the ark Royale ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @simonf8902
    @simonf8902 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They have learned nothing after Titanic.

  • @moosifer3321
    @moosifer3321 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shipboard Romances are the stuff of Legend but amongst ON DUTY Crew!!!!! What was the Captain thinking allocating these two Cretins to the Same WATCH? If ignorant of the affair He was Derelict in His duty to his other Crew and Passengers. The failure of BC Ferries to honoUr the efforts of the Native (Enuit?) Rescuers in naming the Replacement is to be deplored, if understandable in Company Logic of not prolonging the memory of a SNAFU. It reminds me of a passage in a book by Brian Callison regarding "Ships under Flag of Convenience" crewed by a Man, a Boy and a Dog, when Disaster strikes the Dog is on Watch, however I would expect FAR better from Canadians, the best Commonwealth Nation. How come the HelmsPERSON never did Time, CRM should apply on ships as well as Aircraft. Raeger, Maggie and Peaches could have done better, however, credit to the rest of the Crew for a (mostly) efficient evacuation and a BIG Thumbs up to the Locals. Ever thought Trendy Blue Funnels could be a portent of Disaster (A L!)? Passionate Shipboard Tirade!.Betcha can"t predict my next PST/GMT!! Apostraphy now Mutinying, "New" Laptop upcoming! Channel Getting Much more Together. (Didya?)

  • @evolveausevolveaus
    @evolveausevolveaus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi momma bear 🐻 ❤

  • @wayneharwick5856
    @wayneharwick5856 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s what happens when you get to people that should not have been put in that position, but they were because of their gender and who they knew

  • @AnneGreystoke
    @AnneGreystoke ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nah nine mo Nanaimo

  • @sc1338
    @sc1338 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woman driver 😂 sorry

    • @shipwrecksunday
      @shipwrecksunday  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao! As a woman driver with MULTIPLE accidents on her driving record... I concur 😂