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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- In this sort of response video to Fuhnaff's video covering his interpretation of Midnight Motorist, I throw my two cents in to try and find the truth to the matter.
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I’m glad to see that even if you don’t agree with FuhNaff, you’re still being respectful towards him.
It’s frustrating to see some FNAF fans get mad and harass people over theories they dislike.
Agreed. I see too many people mock others for theorizing. It's possibly discouraging others from sharing their theories. This whole fandom has been built on theorizing. How are we going to figure anything out about the story if we don't throw out different possibilities.
One person made two entire videos mocking John,like no stop that’s really gross
there something sad and alarming when a video that do the most healthy theorycrafting method ever have to put multiples warning for the fans to not put down another theorycrafter because they discuss a theory. (being critical of a theory, while respecting the person who made said one.)
but I think it's because content creators/fans don't seem to understand that, or mistook theorycrafting with putting their reputation on the lines.
theorycrafring ARE trial and error, this is normal and healthy to make mistakes. because you then know what don't work.
and I think as long as reputations will be mixed in the discution of a theory, it won't get better.
@@viewer6152i agree, plus i feel like lore usually gets massively rewritten and retconned randomly all the time so i don’t really understand why people hate on theories so hard. like i’ve been here since the first game and i remember all the crazy theories that have been accepted as fact through the years that have just been completely wrong. i don’t see why anyone gets in their feelings about theories like they have this one lmao
This community is so toxic. Imagine missing the point of theorising.
I hope Fuhnaff never stops his insane theories, even if some of them are borderline senseless, he thinks outside of the box and makes people think harder about often overlooked points. Especially his big SB theory, it threw me trough a loop of brainf*ck a few times
yeah it's honestly really fun to watch the stuff he comes up with even when it's insane. his SB theories got me back into the fandom, I had finally got burnt out since it had been like a year since SB launched at the time i think? his new outlooks made me excited about theorizing again even if i don't think all of them are true.
Like Matpat once said “I don’t always agree with the conclusions but I like the questions he asks.” Which rings pretty true for this theory. I get where he’s coming from but there are leaps in logic that just don’t weave together right
People forget that fnaf is a game, and a pretty absurd one. People are allowed to have fun and make silly theories sometimes.
Yes, that's my favorite part that he likes to think outside the box and make us look more into the small overlooked things. Even if he's not quite right it can certainly lead us in the right direction just by taking a deep dive. I would be really disappointed if he decided to stop fnaf theories, at least while there's still story/lore to find and or put together.
Another really interesting "outside of the box" thing to take note is the mention of the robots being 20+ years old, despite the timeline of the first game being "1993", and 20 years ago at that point would be 73. The first games crew does not exist in 73, not even the spring animatronics as far as I know.
This could have been the retcon Scott mentioned, but who knows.
It wasn’t raining in the original part of the minigame for Midnight Motorist, only switched when you head into the secret part. The tracks still being visible despite the rain means they were fresh. No more than a couple hours old.
I’m only adding this one cause your theory makes so much sense to me.
I feel like this is a valid interpretation of Midnight Motorist, my main issue is just. Why are we being shown it?
Puppet minigame is important because puppet
Fruity Maze is the first MCI victim, Susie (and is also a lot more of a background element in a minigame that would otherwise exist)
Later That Night, under this theory, would just be a random murder since every other death we know of was at a restaurant. A murder that was never expanded on in a game that was mostly wrapping up loose ends otherwise. And this is a minigame specifically created as a secret bonus route when the MCI minigame was more so just a background element in a previously existing game. It's a weird higher level of effort for an incident we otherwise know nothing about and doesn't line up with any of William's usual MO
This. These are definitely things to consider and why I personally don’t really believe this theory. It’s a good one though! But there’s holes, but then again when aren’t there any holes right?
@@ScapeVEVO Foxy’s minigame shows specifically that the kids are away from the group and unhappy, that’s the repeating theme before the scare when he walks in on all the bodies. The children were killed in quick succession, not together- that’s part of what makes it imo the most unsettling- it was quick and efficient and so *recent*.
From the murders we have stories for, Afton is shown use the kids’ isolation to his advantage. we see him take an opportunity with Charlie’s murder, we see it’s his strategy to lure Susie, and it’s the protocol he literally programs into Baby for her stomach hand shenanigans.
As much as I hate the idea of Agony and Remnant the same way I hate midichlorians from Star Wars, I feel like much of the tragedy of FNAF’s victims is in their often incidental loneliness immediately before their murders.
@@sleepylmguy9968 that's kinda how i would see it in this circumstance. That it could take place at a restaurant still with the footprints (both sets) possibly leading to one of the Freddy's locations (or fredbears whichever is more widely accepted in the timeline at this point, I have a really hard time following the lore nowdays and knowing what is the most widely accepted theory at any given time) and it could certainly be another child of the mci, later that night could even mean later the night that William killed Suzie, and yellow guy could be the parent of one of the other missing children who was lured back to the pizzeria while yellow guy is away from home. We know couch dude (using dude because it's called man sitting, but dude can be used for women too technically depends on who your talking to) but they don't seem to care and it seems like they've left the kid alone while yellow guy is gone.
I definitely don't agree that the person on the couch is Michael, if the orange character is Afton. It makes more sense if the person that ran away was Michael. This would be after Evan (the crying child) dies.
I like your idea, though, because it continues the pattern from the other minigames: Afton's crimes, like you said.
I think the name "later **that** night" is too significant to say it's just a random night. It has to relate to Charlie's murder, or the fruity maze girl's.
William never cared about Crying Child. If he did, he would've stopped the bite from happening or at least tell Michael that bullying is wrong. It doesn't make sense for William to have plenty of time to put cameras all over the house, yet somehow no time to find a proper babysitter.
@@kumoraifox6357I mean I he did not care about C.C then why would he goes out of his way to create the psychic friend fredbear
@@asuperrandomguy8266 the simple answer is the pain the bullying causes. William's scientific philosophy is pain and fear allow the soul to be moved to another body. 'the spirit follows the flesh and the pain.' this means he's using the boy in his experiments and explains his Lacksadaisy attitude to parenting in Fnaf 4. He had an opportunity to save his son on the third night after helping a worker into a spring lock costume. He ignores the boy's presence. The cameras are to make sure he's suffering in a manner useful to William. William ONLY shows concern when the bullying kills the crying child BEFORE William's experiment is concluded which is why he uses Michael as an experiment in the main gameplay of fnaf 4. To teach him a lesson and to experiment with sorrow and guilt.
Although, like you said, this theory could have its holes, I personally find it way more acceptable than the theory John did.
And I like the concept of the hidden minigames in FNAF 6 being about Afton’s bidding.
And also, perhaps a way to justify William luring the child out of his house while as Spring Bonnie would be either: 1) it wasn’t raining when he did, like you said, OR 2) he was wearing straight up a Spring Bonnie suit and not a spring-lock suit.
The fact William Afton was busy with the MCI' killer's child had always been super strange to think about.
@@sleepylmguy9968 that would also make more sense with the rain, since the rain is pretty heavy by the time of us playing as "mustard man" (I genuinely heard someone refer to our orange sprite character like that once, though unfortunately I can't remember who or where), so if the footprints had been made before it started raining they very likely would have washed away by the time of the minigame. Plus Afton wouldn't even have had to worry about the rain or the spring locks of course, since they wouldn't even be in use
@@an-animal-lover Afton being in a fursuit makes sense, but the animatronic doesn’t imo. One of the other minigame endings shows us how debilitating the rain is to animatronics- security puppet breaks down completely after like a minute of exposure.
@@an-animal-lover idk if this is where you heard it, but I’ve heard MatPat call the orange guy “mustard man” a few times
@@WishGender that's what I was thinking, it's most likely the case
About the twisted ones holes being called graves, in the book it describes the holes by saying "They looked like graves, but at a second glance they were too messy, their outlines poorly defined." Either way it still doesn't make sense with the minigame
THANK. YOU. This is what's made the most sense to me from the get-go; all three minigames have a common and horrifying thread of showing how Afton did what he did.
This is also precisely the reason this game (Pizzeria Sim as a whole) is the scariest in the series to me. Sure, jump scares, experiments, remnant, that's all interesting, but the actual chills in this one comes from that deep adult fear of something happening to one of your kids, whether they're "your" kid as your child, friend or relative's child, student, mentee, etc. Remnant doesn't exist, but people like William do, that's horrifying, and these games are surprisingly effective at showing it without being graphic.
In Chica's highschool cutscenes, Chica was refering to take 'him'. And if he doesn't show up, she will come to his house. And if he doesn't open the door, she'll find a window.
I think Chica's highschool cutscenes are representing william afton and the way he murdered some of the kids. Just like chica was talking about a dog accident.
That's a massive stretch in my opinion. The MCI had all of the kids die at once in "Foxy go go go".
@@justice8718 Maybe other victims? I mean. Suzie was playing an arcade game rigtht?
@@JermoMetGames Suzie honestly confuses me and makes me question the entire lore. William gives her a robot body for some reason.
Foxy go go go had the exact same five kids celebrate a birthday party. Three times under the same Foxy suit performer. Meaning, the Foxy perfomer was likely the man that adopted the five MCI in the Candy Cadet minigames. And, this man was arrested for the MCI. This should matter a lot because William Afton was put into the criminal database in fanf2 and Foxy got rebranded for infamy.
@@justice8718 considering that we have solid proof and description of the way Susie was killed. I think it's safe to say, them dying all at the same time in the same place has been retconned
@@janno7214 LMAO. No. The Candy Cadet stories literally stated they died at the same time by the same killer.
Spring Bonnie isn't even a character they feature in the Freddy cartoons from fnaf4.
I just had this insane thought. What if the Midnight Motorist mini game showcased the death of Cassidy, the one he should not have killed? And that “Secret Grave” was Cassidy’s. And the reason why it’s called the “Secret Grave” was because nobody knows about the grave. Not even the father who came home _later that night._
fuck that’s awful I love it
that said, corpses go in suits that’s just science
I do like that thought. However, the problem is with the timeline. There's a lot of evidence that Cassidy was killed as part of the first missing children incident as the pizzeria, with the other four children, so there's no reason for Cassidy to be killed in her home.
Also a more pressing issue is that the victim here is a boy. Cassidy is a girl.
Makes no sense in the timeline but I do really like the thought of that being Cassidys grave
@@KirigayaKazutoBeater there's no actual proof that cassidy is a girl. yes in the books it's a girl, but the vengeful spirit clearly isn't the same girl. cassidy is a unisex name and scott asked the voice actor to be ambiguous with the gender
Someone broke into that room, there's no glass. Not sure why Orange is suddenly Purple- If "Later That Night" was after Charlie, I think Henry would have plenty of reason to get plastered.
Also it is raining while the Crying Child is locked in Parts and Service in FNaF 4. Same night?
If that is a grave, it's the dog. I say if because we see Spring Bonnie digging holes in Fruity Maze, so William probably buries the suit or is using underground passages later associated with SL.
Interesting stuff. I really appreciate that your process involves trying to poke holes in your own theories as you go along. Good critical eye. In this case we don't have a complete theory to work with but there's definitely some interesting observations along the way. "Laterthatnight" is really the sticking point for me. What does that title mean? Which night?? Maybe that's the way to figure it out: cross reference the relevant nights it could be with the known locations of people and animatronics to see what we're left with.
I think midnight motorist is the night after afton killed Charlie, the person in the chair is afton’s wife, yellow/orange man is afton, and the child who went to “that place” is Michael.(which is another popular theory) that place is either the grave of the crying child or fazbear. Jr’s is just a bar afton started frequenting after the death of CC and might have been barred from after a night of heavy drinking
I love how after all those years of theorycrafting with relatively limited material of FNaF lore, it became kind of science, with people taking different approaches, perspectives and interpretations, disproving old theories with new ones, poking holes in newer ones, borderline peer reviewing other's works, challenging the current axioms and revealing that they are not so obvious and certain, pulling out old but ignored by the "scientific" community evidence or even wiping the board clean and approaching the topic with completely fresh perspective.
We made FNaF lore into its own science.
May I add that the Twisted Ones Theory also couldn't work because Scott confirmed the games and books are different continuities. For some reason, alot of theorizers seem to forget that.
this is it. this has to be it "I'll just go to his house! And if he doesn't open the door, I'll just find a window! Chimney's always a option" from the toy chica cutscene
The minigame's from the perspective of William driving home drunk after the death of his youngest son. The person at Junior's is Henry telling William that he's not allowed in; I believe this was confirmed via audio from another game. The person who escapes through the window is Michael, and the grave would then be where the youngest brother was buried.
Essentially, the youngest brother dies earlier that day which we see in a Fnaf 4 minigame, Michael grieves all day and decides to break out (likely after seeing an animatronic possessed by his brother), William arrives at Junior's drunk and emotionally compromised and is turned away by his business partner and then proceeds to drive home only to find his wife trying to dissociate watching TV and his remaining son having broken out through a window, and ending with William deciding to head to the unmarked grave to try and find Michael.
Every other theory I've seen has made very little sense and isn't supported by anything in the games; only having support from certified non-canon (to the main universe) books. This one by I forget who is much more grounded and is supported by an audio tape I believe from Sister Location but I could be wrong on which game, as well as the house being illustrated as the same one from Fnaf 4.
i was thinking this too. it just makes a little more sense, but the whole crying child possessing an animatronic seems a bit strange, unless the whole cassidy and crying child possess golden freddy thing is still valid
@@SilentBeaver Yeah I think it's more likely that it's this rather than anything else, with 2 spirits inside of fredbear instead of just one.
@@lazylime8046 i'm really iffy on the whole 2 spirits inside of golden freddy to be honest. it just doesn't feel right, anymore. maybe back then, but not now
I like this theory but I Aldo like Funaff
A HUGE piece everyone is missing that William is only Purple when he's wearing his Security Guard uniform. This could just be him in normal clothes *later that night* after he had murdered Charlie.
I went into this expecting it to be another one of the thousands midnight motorist videos I see every week but this theory genuinely makes so much sense. These usually don’t make me think or feel anything I just go “eh idk seems like a stretch” on all of them but this has me convinced. Amazing video, put almost everything in a new, more sensical perspective for me
Favorite theory/ most likely to happen, out of like the 5 I’ve seen.Amazing you are very undderated keep going you’ll get very popular, and successes will hopefully come just keep going.
Super awesome video. I think this makes a lot more sense from a story and lore perspective.
omg how didn't I notice that it's night time so the grave can't be a twisted animatronic, that's smart damn
I looked up a video of the Toy Chica UCN cutscenes because Afton (Toy Chica) flat out states his methods of luring the kids away in them, and a house is talked about during the Puppet (Charlie) cutscene. William remarks about going to her house, and if she didn't answer the door he would use a window or the chimney to get her attention.
I bring this up because I'm not sure if it was supposed to help solve Midnight Motorist, or retcon it, especially as the Toy Chica cutscene seems to clash with the FNaF 2 and Security Puppet mini games in terms what those show. Although, you could go with the outlandish idea of Afton getting the kids to lock the door and debiliate the puppet in order for him to murder Charlie, after luring her to the pizzaria, without anyone knowing.
To give you some help since I own a copy of the twisted ones, the hole would have to be made of three overlapping square holes to be where a twisted one buried itself for the day. This was uncovered by the main cast in connection with Twisted Freddy's multiple appearances in the book as he left this bizarre patterned hole set in several locations only to emerge from them later. The wolf however seems to hide in forestry and hates it's purpose of abduction so perhaps the wolf made a friend to spite it's maker. It is weird though how yellow man KNOWS that the runaway will return, given there's no proof they maybe able to.
I love this theory and I think you're right. I'd also like to add that if Orange Guy is William why is he referring to his place of business as "that place"? Wouldn't he just say Freddy's or whatever the name of the current location is? "He'll be sorry when he gets back." If this were William wouldn't he be co-owner of the establishment? Just go get him? Shouldn't he in theory have the keys to the place?
As soon as you mentioned that Spring Bonnie has three toes and rounded feet I realized where you were going with it, and made my own connection to the other minigames--and I have to say, I'm glad I thought on the same track as you. It makes the most sense out of all the theories I've seen!
I think the mini game shows Michael Afton’s home life after his original family is torn apart. The yellow guy is his new stepfather. The footprints outside the window are Springtrap’s. William is guiding Michael back to the sister location each night to put Elizabeth/Baby back together, which we know he ends up doing.
Idea: the grave is the grave of the child who just got lured away - hidden grave, Afton hid the body there, we don’t know when this occurs - if
You look at the glitchtrap suit it’s hand sewn costume, no machinery just a suit, he could be using that. Afton has to come during the rain, otherwise he wouldn’t leave footprints
Honestly, high odds it's post-bite CC's grave.
CC is the least likely to have a secret grave though imo- he died either at the restaurant in front of everyone or in hospital. In either case, the body would be with the proper authorities and nobody would get the chance to sneak his body into a random wood
I don't think it's that solid to say that the link to orange guy being Afton is weak. In addition to the purple car, there's the fact that the shape of the house resembles the FNAF4 menu house shape.
I do think that if orange guy is Afton, there's no way gray person is Michael. It makes NO sense for Michael to tell his father to do anything, and would the same guy who says about one child "He'll be sorry when he gets back." would let his other child tell him what to do without making THEM sorry for stepping out of line?
I don't think so. Gotta be the wife. Only a wife would have the standing required to tell an angry man that they live with what to do. Even then, it's weird that he doesn't respond. Who knows, this minigame is a mess and a half.
i like the video but i think you should consider using a program called Levelator to level out your audio and make it sound crisper, it’s free. love the videos!!
What if the kid abducts is cassidy explaining why cassie is so angry because he was already an abusive household so some form of trauma and then he was killed by afton but that's just a theory.
Thst makes some sense. He ran off to freddys or was taken there since the mci is a freddys incident
Cassidy is a girl though
THANK YOU FOR SAYING SPRING BONNIE. I have legit been thinking that it was Spring Bonnie since I first saw those footprints
Can't be Spring Bonnie as it is raining. The spring locks would have failed killing the person inside.
@@AcridGoblin it would have been before the rain
I just wish this could be simpler.
The whole "AFTON REBUILDS HIS KID AS A REMNANT/AGONY INFUSED ANIMATRONIC CYBORG!"
Why can't it just be murderers, haunted robots and vengeful spirits...
You and sire squawks have two great interpretations it's hard to choose which one is my head Canon.
If presuming that Afton stole the child during the events of later that night and it was rain it could be possible that instead of the spring lock suit he used the suit he hand made shown in fnaf vr
I kinda agree with this as well as fuhnaffs theory. I think you were right on the money with the springbonnie costume thing, and fuhnaff wasn’t wrong about how the orange guy is most likely purple guy with the evidence of the cutscenes of the dude having purple and orange attire.
My personal theory? While I do think this is William Afton and that the guy sitting on a couch watching tv is likely Micheal because they look similar and that crying child might’ve broken out, I think this minigame represents the set up of fnaf 4.
I’ve learned by this point that fnaf SL isn’t meant to be solved through fnaf 4 but the opposite where fnaf SL solves the story of fnaf 4 and it drastically changing. Scott used to have each clue as very important put in there, most likely cuz back then he planned it as dream theory(because well, it was meant to just be 3 games, with the fourth he had to find a way to explain it.)
Anywho as for the different houses, I feel it goes all the way back to mikes mom.
My guess is that William and his wife split up, and considering the placement of the timeline, jr’s isn’t a Freddy’s restaurant but instead a bar. (Mainly cuz it’s kinda obvious that the Charlie incident didn’t happen in 1987, thus that sixth night hasn’t happened yet)
Anyway my reasoning toward why I feel like it’s all connecting and why Micheal was the way he is from fnaf 4 and 6 is simple, but before I say this let’s lay out what I could understand
William and Mrs Afton were once normal people, until Micheal came around in which he started drinking and became a bad father(which connects to the fnaf SL videos in the immortal and the restless) this would lead to them divorcing, and soon, murder. I think the mound of dirt which is a secret grave implies to me that it’s Mrs aftons grave. While I’m starting off with weak evidence, it’s due to there being no name at all
This seemed kinda out of character for William but it starts making sense because it starts to build up onto him stuffing kids into suits. So basically I think the actual first victim was Williams wife by a drunken rage (evidence shown by erratic driving) and similar with Charlie when he killed her most likely in a drunken rage because Henry has a perfect family while William doesn’t. Now as for Micheal and why he acts the way he does, we know it’s not exactly intentional and seems to be a teaser kinda guy. He might’ve scared crying child with the foxy mask because before, crying child might’ve actually liked that
But because of the nightmare animatronics that William built (or possibly stole from Henry and redesign them) to scare crying child into hating the animatronics considering how he might’ve seen what William did. I know this layout I put is messy but I feel like it’s something like this cuz it seems like with how fnaf is up to before VR, fnaf SL is meant to solve fnaf 4 somewhat and explain that the nightmares were basically real, while fnaf 6 is meant to add context to some important moments. The Charlie one, one of the MCI victims, and the (probable) protagonist of fnaf 4 beinf CC and why he goes through this by William
could yellow guy be henry?
the mound being his daughter who became the puppet..?
i’m just spitballing now
Henry doesn't have a son. So I don't think it can be.
I like the idea that this is the family of one of afton's victims, not afton, the best. But if it was william afton's family could the person in the chair be his wife, the son locked in his room be michael, and the mystery grave be evan's (buried privately after the bite so as not to draw any more negative attention to the restaurant)?
My issue with this is whereas the Funaff theory is trying to tie everything together; this theory instead states that barley anything is relevant and has no real meaning. Jr's is just a random bar, the person on the sofa is irrelevant, and the child and the yellow guy have no greater meaning unlike the other characters we see in these minigames
I 100% agree and have thought this for the longest time now! Thank you for making this!
I know this is much before its time but what if it was Gregory? Glamrock freddy has 3 toes and round feet, plus, following Gregory’s timeline, it would make sense for yellow guy to say he “went off to that place again; being the Pizzaplex. As for the grave, im not sure. Iw as thinking the locked box with the “real” dead gregory (assuming he’s a robot) but im not sure. Not sure how plausible it is but hey its something.
The ignorance to game theories videos on this is wild but I do like your ideas and points you made good video over all
What gets me is, the child left a trtail of footprints but the animatronic only left two prints. I don't think the animatronic could break the window without leaving tracks, so I don't think the animatronic broke the window. The child would not have broken their own window unless...yellow guy locked the child inside their room. At the same time, it makes no sense for the child to see a motionless animatronic outside their window and proceed to bust out their window and run right past it. It also doesn't make any sense for there to be no animatronic footprints following behind the child's footprints. I can't think of any other explanation other than the animatronic was motionless outside for a long time and someone physically picked it up and moved it to and from that spot.
Fuhnaff is fucking awesome
It can’t be spring Bonnie though cause of the rain as we know spring lock animatronics will lock the user if it gets wet and I don’t think the kid was being lured to be killed because yellow guy mentions he’s sneaking off to that place meaning he’s been to certain place before which is so weird idk could be William was wearing glitchtrap suit if it’s actually ever existed since we don’t know if it was ever real or just something created in the game
6:05 "themzelves" my man
I like Funaff. I thought the main argument for yellow guy being William was that yellow guy was the same colour as William Afton’s font?
ill be honest, when i first saw the midnight motorist secret, i thought ‘yellow guy’ was henry 😭😭
I was browsing through The Freddy Files: Updated Edition recently and found the following information it calls out from the Midnight Motorist section interesting...
1. "A restuarant called Jr's"
2. "You'll find that your character is yellow, not purple!"
3. The gray person is just referred to as "a person in gray" and "the gray person", not via any gender pronouns
4. "An unmarked pile of dirt"
Finally! Someone who doesn't think that yellow guy is William! Thank you!
love your content man, wait everyday to see if theres a new video HAHA
The game is called "later that night"
That grave could be where Afton buried the kid after he killed them. Why not just bury your victim in the woods? It would also explain the name of the file.
6:41 Smokin that Fuhnaff pack now huh?😂
What if this is AFTER Afton becomes Springtrap? It would make sense for him to continue murdering children ever since he escaped the Fazbear Fright's fire since that's his thing, and this is showing us him as Scraptrap still taking victims in Utah and how the animatronics on the pizza place are all a threat
While I do like this theory more then Fuhnaff I wouldn't say I like the idea MM and security puppet minigame are not connected especially with all the evidence there is to say they are. We know from fnaf 2 William killed charile and he was driving his car and this wasn't reconed as tire marks can be seen next to chariles body in the security puppet minigame. Their is also the fact the games are labeled "the night" and "Later that night" which definitely don't feel like just a coincidence even with the fact you pointed out that you buy MM before security puppet. Both games also take place in the rain and when you drift of the side of the road we do see the car is infact purrple this only sumenting the idea that they are connected in some way.
Their is also the orange guy not being william I also disagree with. We also know from the Trilogy and Fazbear fights that William is shown and very implied and abusive twardes his kids. With the trilogy he actively does not care for Elizabeth and slaps her with enough force to knock her on the ground then proceeds to step on her drawing she was trying to show her. In fazbear fights what we found its about a security guard who is working in the fnaf 3 location who hears his abusive father and math teacher who last name sounds a lot like afton. This lines up with orange guy being abusive to his kid. We also know William killed the missing kids by luring them into the back room not by going to their houses. The reason why he's not purple is because he's yet to become a child mass murder yet so he's not seen as shady figure and William has show a small connection to a yellow/orange color before as in his graphic novel he's show to be wereing a yellow/orange bowtie and in Help wanted DLC the purple cars light can flash purple or a yellow/orange.
I believe Fuhnaff's theory was originally game theory's at first when fnaf pizza sim came out I could be wrong though.
I think these types of videos, like the one you are talking about shoundn't claim to be about "Solving Fnaf" if videos like this stopped doing that these videos would just be fun theories, made for the sake of being fun insted of solving the story which is completly fine. I think if anyone is gonna make video a claiming to be "solving" FNAF it should have a bit more thought put into it.
But Orange man is 100% William, his text in fruity maze is the same color as Orange man and fredbear plush's text (Fredbear plush is strongly implied to be Afton in sister location)
I personally subscribe to the sire squaks version of events I’ll just list it in bullets (I didn’t relise how long this comment was going to be)
-this is the immediate aftermath of Willam killing Charlie in his twisted mind it was vengeance for his owns sons death at the hands of Freadbear (who was almost definitely built by Henry) Henry wants willam to be as miserable as him
-Willam Drunkenly dries home (as evidence by the mini game of him driving 2x the speed limited sometimes down the wrong section of the highway at well…..midnight)
-Willam is banned from the Jr.s Bar because of his drunken rages after the his Son died
-Most import distinction from other versions of events The one who ran away is not the crying child but Michael afton the coach person is ether the Mother Henry or a relative Of Willam he hired to watch Michael while he does the dirty
-Willam became extremely abusive toward Michael after the crying child’s death
Where did Michael run of to? The dirt mound what was the dirt mound? The crying child’s Burial site
What was the animatronic? We don’t know it’s original form but probably a generic endo but Willam used an illusion disk to make himself appear as nightmare freadbear (we KNOW Michael has seen nightmare freadbear at some point and nightmare freadbear spefically referenced himself being a former ILLUSION not a former nightmare like the others)
-Michael probably got a fight or flight response from seeing something that looks like a hell demon outside his window he broke the window and made a run past the nightmare (notice how there’s only 1 pair of animatronic footprints implying the animatronic just…….stood there and didn’t give chase
-Willam doesn’t want Michael going to the CC’s grave as in his mind Michael killed him he has no right
-The punishment for Michael when he gets back? Moving his room to the FNAF4 room a room that has 2 doors so Michael and stop Willam from getting in and no windows so he can’t easily escape ( which we know from SL that Willam has camera’s in this room)
Wether Willam sent nightmare animatronics after Michael at this time is kinda a tossup I personally think probably not but point is the room exists and it exists for the purpose of Willam not letting Michael out
Boom leaves few loose ends answers a couple question best version I’ve heard imo
I don’t really watch FuhNaff. Nothing wrong with his content, he feels like if Chuggaaconroy did Five Night’s at Freddy’s content. I used to watch a lot of Chuggaaconroy, but I grew out of his content. Nothing wrong with the person, just content that feels like it’s directed at a younger audience than me.
You're the guy who'll voice WIthered Bonnie and Moon!
Yes, that's me :>
The one problem with your theory is it's raining.
I passed out after screaming Mike Henry help Mike help Henry
@@75JUNAKI no I actually did
@@75JUNAKI and when I got up i saw that he uploaded
I actually enjoy FuhNaffs work. Correct or not, he gives us a different outlook on fnaf
The grave could belong to the missing child
Idk maybe afton went after him, lured him into the wokds and killed and buried him there
He could of killed charlie and then 'later that night' killed another child
And if he did kill them both before the rain starts 'later that night' takes on new meanings
Idk
...or CC's grave.
Why else would scott make the car purple, the same rain used in the minigame where he killed his first victim, and then you say its not hardcore evidence. And even in fnaf 6 we see a buisnessman that shares features similair to springtraps corpse wearing purple, and yellow interchangeably. Like bro this is why fnaf is so confusing because yall make simple things confusing.
Every car in midnight motorist is purple.
i dont fully understand how illusion discs work but i think fuhnaff was correct since if funtime freddy can shapeshift using discs, then why cant he have 3 toes instead of 4?
Because the illusion changes the animatronic visually, not physically
I haven't seen anyone suggest this before, so I'll drop it here for any actually dedicated theory crafter to use/debunk:
Aside from the car being purple, the mustard color of the driver could indicate that it is William Afton due to him frequently dressing up in a golden Spring Bonnie suit.
Doesn't Henry wear his own golden suit, Fredbear?
It’s about Glamrock freddy
Honestly, this makes sense
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if springbonnie was in the rain it would springlock ya dummy 🤥😭😭😭😭😭
It’s ok to share an opinion without qualifying a dozen times that you aren’t trying to make someone else look stupid. It actually has the opposite effect of making it seem like you think he’s dumb.
Nope! I just know that if I let people be without hammering it into them I don't want them to harass someone, then they will go and harass them. I'm looking out for the guy because I know how insane some people are.
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I feel like this theory, although cool and more plausible than funtime freddy, makes mistakes, even if you say the "later that night" could be refering to another thing because you can get MM before the puppet minigame, it feels like its clearly ignoring the most obvious conection, the tracks (and how it started to rain in Security puppet), its very hard to argue against MM coming after Security puppet, also, it would make no sense for the yellow guy to be able to walk to the "secret grave" (that is a cool detail) if he didnt knew it was there (To just get off the car in a random place in the forest) plus, while i agree JR. Is a bar, for it to be background for a victims parent feels meaningless, why would that parent specifically hate Fredbears/Freddy's, it leaves more questions than answears about a character we don't care or know more about.
In general, i disagree with your theory (i dont agree woth Funahf either) ALTHOUGH i like some details i didnt think about before, like the posible list of animatronics capable of luring the kid or the secret grave thing.
The odd thing about the footprints we presume belong to an animatronic is that there is only one set of them. If they were luring away the kid alongside them, we'd probably see more of them, especially alongside the tinier footprints. It's as if something appeared there in that one spot then just vanished right there.
they probably just came out of the bush and receded back into the bush
@@gdeveloper3309 Never thought about that before 🤔
maybe the kid collected a foot from fredd, the owners of freddy's came to his house n then broke his window yelling 4 the foot, se he droppped it there, n then the kid killed himselft bc lore
I think it was the crying child controlling the fredbear animatronic, and the footprints are the Michael. The springlock suits weren't decommissioned until later, so its possible he could still control it back then
My biggest question then is WHO is the abducted child? All victims we know of were killed at a pizzeria.
I like the idea of Cassidy, as the vengeful spirit seems way more likely to smash a window and later to seek justice from an adult who wronged them.
@@tobysinbad I also like the idea of it being Cassidy, because the other two minigames are such significant events and characters (puppet and suzie) that I feel like MM should have equal significance. Jeremy and Fritz have never had that much of a story, whereas Cassidy is basically a main character. If I were Scott designing the game I would definitely be inclined to make a minigame about Cassidy if I was also gonna cover the first missing child and the puppet. Plus I think it makes sense for Cassidy’s story to be the most well hidden, because she’s always been the most mysterious spirit, while also being very important. I just feel like Scott would want to make her game hard to find.
Whether that actually fits the lore details is another matter though, and I do not know enough to have an opinion about it. I just think it’s thematically neat.
I'm still of the thought that Yellow Guy is Afton, who drove home in a drunken panic because he just murked a kid outside the window of an active restaurant.*
The theory that each minigame depicts one of Afton's kills is still _really_ good, though. Like you said, it makes way more sense that way from a narrative point of view.
* I use FNAF 2's "Take cake to the children" and Pizza Sim's Security Puppet (I think they're the same) minigames because they seem to fit more. "Later that Night" feels like we've already seen what happened, and since we saw Charlie's death twice, once in the exact same game, I think that's the event the name is referring to.
The thing that bothers me most in midnight motorist is the foot prints
Mostly because charlie is the only kid afton kills not wearing the suit
We suspected before it was because that was his first kill so he hadn't made started the golden bonnie ritual yet
Then chica being the first made that confusing
But if afton killed two children that night why would he only use bonnie for one of them?
So "later that night" referring to something other than charlie's death night does make a bit more sense
What makes it more confusing is that the MCI killer hasn't ever been wearing a suit to kill his victims.
I don't know if it's actually important, but I've never seen anyone mentioned this: why isn't the window mentioned?
Yellow guy doesn't mention it. The person on the couch doesn't mention glass shattering. There's no visible shards on the ground either, so either it was broken from the outside, in which case there's no footprints that actually lead up to the window, or the glass has been cleaned up.
Nothing points to the window having been broken that night. It's just... there.
I have a big problem the concept that the fnaf6 minigames depicting william's victim and that is the inconsistency of how they show it. Both security puppet and fruity maze are pretty clear with what they are trying to tell us. Security puppet is about Charlie's death and possesion of the puppet and Fruity maze is about Sussie's death and the beginning of the MCI.
Now MM is not as direct with the lore it gives us. Unlike the other two you have go outside of the main minigame to access the important section. This means that the second part of MM most be of high importance. But who of William victims is so important to warrent this secrecy? It can't be Cassidy, the runnaway kid is referred as 'HIM'. I don't think could be one of the other MCI kids, they were clearly killed at Freddy's.
If I've to speculate I think the minigame is connected to Elizabeth. Security Puppet is the origin of the Puppet which in PS is inside Lefty, Fruity Maze is connected to William Afton as it was the first time he killed wearing the spring bonnie suit which he is now trapped in. And because we already have Sister Location and it really isn't a trap soul Molten Freddy doesn't have a minigame. Which leaves us with Elizabeth a character that probably does deserve the secrecy and ambiguity of the MM.
That theory of "yellow guy is afton" always pissed me off. "It's afton, the kid is Michael, the house layout is the same. The car is the same."
Ignoring all of the other parts.
The yellow man is an abusive alcoholic father and the kid lived in a neglectful house where the most consideration he got was from someone basically going "go easy on him he's had a rough day." And his main place of escape was Freddy's.
Like with the girl Afton targets vulnerable kids and kids within the local area. He sees this kid being abused or knows how the father is sneaks over at night when the dad isn't at home and the other guardian is busy watching TV to care. They break the window to get the kid out and together they return to the pizzeria or wherever.
He's the perfect victim, "kid ran away from his abusive family. Don't blame him."
It's about him taking the kids.
I like the idea that all the special minigames show a murder, but we are mostly lead to believe that all Afton's murders happen at or outside of a Freddy's. So if he was just abducting children by walking around town in a suit? Idk, seems like a stretch.
he lures the kids back to the restaurant/ the correct part of the restaurant and then kills them
@@tobysinbad Seems way too complicated. Freddy's already attracts children and it's not weird for a guy to be in a suit there.
@@imaginefun13 yep it's so weird why William would wear the suit outside of the restaurant. Especially since it's raining. There's no way he'd leave footprints there because the ground would have to be muddy for it to happen.
@@tobysinbadThere’s one thing that doesn’t make sense to me: why are there only two footprints? If Afton is leading kids back to the pizzeria to kill them, why are there no footprints of his own following the child’s? It looks like someone just set up the suit and left it in one position before picking it up and carrying it away. And if the rain washed away the footprints, why are the child’s footprints still there? It just seems like the suit was left there and forgotten about before someone came back to collect it.
If I was a betting man, and leaning into the theory that the minigames show Afton's crimes, I think the 'secret grave' is just that, it's the grave of one of Afton's victims that he didn't stuff into an animatronic. For that matter I don't think he actually stuffed any child corpses into the animatronics, I think that's a little fan misunderstanding which was cleared up when we see the Puppet STUFF the souls of the murdered children into the suits. The only one that was quite literally stuffed was likely Charlotte which is shortly before William targets the daughter of Henry as a form of revenge, who we also know was not stuffed but rather had the animatronic near her when she died.
Whoever is in the grave must be one of those victims, I think the child who was lured away was the kid that became Bonnie and the one that is buried is the last one, Cassidy.
The grave isn't just a secret, it's the grave OF a secret, the one who inhabits Golden Freddy.
Henry is the yellow guy (co-owner and in the yellow Fredward suit)
The only desth that happens is Charlotte, turning into the puppet, this was unintentional
The guy on the couch is the only other actual staff member that later influences phoneguy in the games, he was the greetet and janitor
Him is William, Henry does not know his daughter is dead and was still out looking for her.
J.R.s was Fredwards foodhole before Charlotte went missing and was sold in a firesale. Henry can't go in as it's no longer his, the police found no evidence and J.R.s is in the midst of mass refurbishing, hence all the cars and it being open at night. The nightguard here influences Fredwards 1, its why be canonically dies, in the games, loosely made inuniverse by Scunt Cunthorne.
SMH. Henry locked William in the room and locked the springs so he couldn't leave the suit. The smallfootprints are the puppet following William. It does not like rain and so is on its tendrils on the ground and holding an umbrella
Also no. Children souls do not infect robots. This is an arcade game in Fredwards PLC, that has stand up machines with all of the main games but long lines and a VR cabinet
Interesting take, though I think there are more connections between Afton and mustard man than you think, namely the implied relationship between midnight motorist and security puppet. It's not a lot but we see that when Charlie is killed outside it is dark, it is raining and there are car tire tracks next to her body which really didn't have to be there unless it was to make a point. We then see the purple car speeding away on a rainy night in midnight motorist, with the following scene being labled "later that night" in the code. Lastly I think it's Michael Afton in the living room watching his immortal and the restless and because of his text and shirt colour. Is this proof? No, I wouldn't say so, but I do think these point to it being Afton and why people made that connection.
IMO Afton has already killed some kids which is why the security puppet is installed, why he's turned away from a junior fnaf location (phone guy says employees are being investigated and can't come to work at one point), why he has to kill Charlie outside and why there are wanted posters in the alleyway because someone probably has a vague description of the murder suspect but not enough to actually know Afton is the murderer. He's angry at Henry for questioning/kicking him from the company so he kills Charlie in 1983 and we see that the crying child is alive still (but dies later that year) and that he has broken his window - that's why in FnaF 4 he's been moved to a room without a window and is being surveild. Anyway that's why I personally thinks it's William Afton.
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Does anyone ever mention that yellow and purple are complementary colors? Midnight Motorist Guy is more orange-y, but I think that can be attributed to wanting to keep the color palette a certain way, bright yellow would look too cheery/out of place.
I have no clue what the hell that could mean though. Following through on that line of logic, Green Guy could be the counterpart of Old Man Consequences, since he's red, and that's just silly. The color of the person just irks me, it's not even close to Fredbear/Spring Bonnie, they're yellower.
This was something I only recently came up with, but I think the 'point' of Midnight Motorist was to hint at how the crying child became so afraid of the pizzaria. I don't have a full fledged theory about it, but I do think that him going to 'that place again' on what seems to be the night of one of William's murders could lead to the crying child seeing something he shouldn't and being scarred by it. As the son of one of the owners, he would have access to more areas of the pizzaria than most kids and could therefore stumble in on his father in the spring bonnie suit. This then leads to the lines "Remember what you saw." "You know what will happen if he catches you."
If Funtime Freddy had captured the kid, there would only be one set of footprints bc the child is being carried. If it was SpringBonnie, the two sets make more sense, he was probably holding the kids hand to walk
Proposal orange guy is Afton because his skin isn't actually purple its just his shadow cause in the Atari age of games we could not haveblack shadows because the back round is black so Scott made him purple instead. second aftons skin color is a yellow because he was born in Utah cause the Freddy's location is in Hurricane Utah and we were told that in the books.
I think you were on to something as we know springlocks act as animatronics and suits. It could be that Afton actually sent out the animatronic version of SpringBonnie to kidnap this kid. Now in the twisted novel especially in the visual (or graphic always get those confused) it is shown that the way the twisted animatronics kidnapped people was by stuffing them inside their springlock suits. We see this in the books that later when Charlie let her self-get kidnapped the robot then buried itself. Now we could have something like this happening that halfway through the walk to Freddy's the SpringBonnie suit noticed to begin to rain it then scooped up the kid inside of itself and buried itself under that mound of dirt we see. When walking over that area. Basically, if this is correct that child is still alive when we arrive home.
Sidenote in the novels they are just holes but it was shown that in the novels a foxy twisted animatronic still attacked Charlie during the day. Meaning under the right circumstances they can still attack during the day and night.
I love fuhnaffs theories cause they seem out of pocket but he does say some legitimate interesting points
I always thought that the person on the couch was Henry and that the child that broke out of the house was Michael. The grave outside is for the crying child. William Afton being the yellow-orange guy makes sense because isn't the "purple guy" only purple because he's usually in shadows? Michael is only purple later on because his body began to rot.
Maybe the story is that William was supposed to watch over Charlie while Henry watched over Michael. However, William was depressed and drunk after the death of his youngest son so when he saw Charlie he killed her. Henry was unaware of this which is why he's still at the Afton's house babysitting. When you think about it isn't it strange that Charlie's father wasn't at the restaurant when she was locked out? Usually, parents keep an eye out for their children unless they trusted a close friend or family to do their job for them. Maybe Henry asked William to babysit Charlie and then take her home since her mother was there. I also say that because I'm pretty sure the file name for the person watching the TV is called a man. Since it's called later that night it's probably later the same night of Charlie's death.
Now as for Michael breaking out of the house and what animatronic he saw I don't know. But I highly doubt that the child is dead since William says "He will be sorry when he comes back." Michael isn't dead and shouldn't be dead anytime soon. Most likely William ends up tracking him down and then moves his room to the FNaF 4 room. That's why the room has so many cameras in it and why in Sister Location you can see that it's still in the FNaF 4 house. After Michael's stunt of breaking the window and running away, he was moved to a room where he would always be monitored. I think that's also why the nightmare animatronics are there. Think about it- the crying child's room only had 1 door and yet the FNaF 4 room has 2. That wasn't the crying child's room. I believe that the minigames and gameplay in FNaF 4 aren't from the same pov. The mini games with the crying child are from his perspective but the main gameplay is Michael. Rather they're how William is punishing Michael after what he did to his younger brother.
JRs if I remember correctly is called a restaurant so it's probably the old location mentioned in FNaF 2. Charlie was probably killed at Fredbear's which is why it closed down. A child died inside and outside the establishment and Charlie's death couldn't be portrayed as an accident.
In the FNaF 2 minigame version of her passing the building is incredibly small so it's probably the original location. After her death, the Security Puppet was moved to JRs.
The reason why William can't go into JRs is that the death of the crying child lead to a criminal investigation. Since he's being investigated he can't go inside the building. That may be why the MCI incident happens. To spite the security he kills 5 children in JRs and stuffed them in the suits. By the time that happens the puppet was already there which is why the Give Gifts Give Life mini-game occurs.
Is yellow guy Henry and the purple guys family was actually Henry’s?
I always saw it as a father of a victim kid that Afton kills.
That being said, the reason people also associate midnight motorist to William is also the yellow guy being bared from Juniors. To what extent they thought this through, I’m unsure, but this does add a bit of context to your explanation of why people think this.
To my knowledge the line of logic is
>Later that night has to refer to some event
>Security Puppet shows tire tracks from Afton leaving
>Security Puppet is another angle of SAVE HIM where Afton has a purple car
>throughout FNaF6 the Fazbear representative is shown with either a purple suit and orange tie/skin or vice versa creating a correlation
And optionally, depending on if you believe Jr's isn't a random bar
>If Jr's has meaning it's most likely FNaF 2's location as that's the only time there's been a junior themed location(FNaF 2 had Kids Cove) and the only time that banning someone from a building has been mentioned in the series(especially concerning any Previous Employees(aka Afton) Night 6)
Personally, I believe RyeToast’s theory that you play as Afton after Feed The Children, but the person in the chair is his wife and the person who left was Michael, going to his brother’s grave.
As for why William’s orange, I think that represents when he’s not actively doing anything wrong. It’s like a mask (plus, it could be a reference to his dialogue in FNAF 4)
Yeah I noticed the flaw with it being a twisted one since it was taking place at night, a counter point would the game starts at midnight and the animatronic could have just buried itself. Though the fact that the character doesn't react to the mound suggests it something that been there and the guy was aware of it. Though if they didn't refer to the child as a him then the mound could have been Susie's dead dog buried there and the mini game could been how she got lured to the pizza place.
Colonel Mustard says “he” tho
@@tobysinbad I know, it would have been cool if Colonel Mustard didn't.
I feel like it'd be weird for us to see and be introduced to a character that we never see again especially if the main reason we see them is to show or tell us something we already knew about. It makes no sense especially sense every known victim of Afton's is associated with a Fazbear location if this is Afton than it breaks it because than this person has no connection at all to Freddy's at all.