This video is confusing REACTION CONTROL THRUSTERS with INERTIAL DAMPENERS. Reaction control thrusters keep a ship from moving when it is subjected to force or gravity. Inertial dampeners by contrast work inside the ship to prevent the incredible acceleration of the ship from turning the crew into pancakes.
There’s also sonic showers, which were put in the Motion Picture because NASA had developed them. Of course later depictions imply that they’re also waterless, whereas a real sonic shower uses sound to agitate/vibrate the water in a shower to make it clean you more efficiently and minimise water usage.
Makes sense that NASA would have sonic showers. Having to haul around or create lots of clean water just for bathing is gonna be a real problem on the ISS and long-duration spaceflights like an eventual manned mission to Mars.
@@vic5015 they are at least helped by the fact that people are less stinky in microgravity. I can't remember why, but I remember an astronaut talking about it. I think it was Chris Hadfield.
the way you're describing the inertial dampeners is what are actually the maneuvering thrusters. the inertial dampeners are part of the artificial gravity systems, and help protect the crew from the rapid acceleration and deceleration of high impulse and warp speeds by varying the gravity vectors on board. also, if the main and impulse engines go offline, you're still gonna drift, as you don't have anything to power the maneuvering thrusters to slow you down, either.
I thought the reason for the inertia dampeners also protected the crew from the issues of extreme changes in speed. Even fairly slow speeds in Star Trek would turn you to human jelly against the bulkhead.
@@chuckasualty not in warp speed, but in all other cases. Warp speed is not an inertial based speed, it creates a bubble which acts as a non inertial based vacuum, relying instead on velocity as the only value of spatial distance translocation. Without inertia, there is no drag or g forces, merely acceleration. I am a nerd.
When it comes to space travel, I think we are closer to the Expanse then Star Trek, i'd love to see a video from this group looking at the Expanse Tech in relation to what we have today.
To be fair, the whole black hole at the center of the galaxy thing wasn't a thing until the late 2000's-2010's when ST5 was made in 1989. No one knew what laid there yet.
Couldn’t you explain that one by saying that the planet orbited the super massive black hole? or….just forget Star Trek V ever existed, as to be fair, it was totally bonkers!
@@Mad-Bassist I kind of think that they are both related to each other - The Barrier could be like Earth's magnetic field. Generated at the core of the galaxy by the super massive black hole and then projected around the entire galaxy, just like our own magnetic field does. Though it must use some kinds of exotic energy, since simple magnetic energy wouldn't prevent ships from passing through or the strange mutations in the crew of the Enterprise. I have read that in Star Trek lore, that someone or something - the Q perhaps? - put it there to protect the galaxy from outside threats (or to contain the Federation and other powers within it.)
Since other people have already posted corrections about the inertial dampeners, I’d like to tackle a misconception you had about warp drive. The misconception itself is widely held by Star Trek fans, and potentially even by Star Trek staff. Warp Drive does work by manipulating the fabric of spacetime, yes, but it does not travel through real space as you described. Real space being the term I and some others use to describe/define our specific slice/plane of reality. Alcubierre warp drives warp spacetime for superluminal travel through real space, whereas Star Trek warp drives warp space to ‘dive’ into and perform superluminal travel within subspace. The misconception arose when people retroactively claimed Alcubierre warp dynamics for subspace warp mechanics. Alcubierre warp mechanics could conceivably have been an in universe precursor science to their subspace warp mechanics, but if it were just stock Alcubierre warp then there would be no need for subspace whatsoever, as it would not be utilized.
Inertial dampeners are actually a field generator that counteracts acceleration. Ships thrusters are what's used to counteract spin/rotation/etc and are a real thing called the reaction control system (RCS), which has been in service since we took to space. They're simply small thruster nozzles placed around a vessel. Whereas the inertial dampener system creates a field that absorbs acceleration forces. The famous groaning or 'engine noise" we always hear as a ST ship accelerates is actually the dampeners working and why the pitch always starts off low and rises higher until the velocity stabilizes. .....honestly, you call yourselves trekkers? :)
fucking trekker -_- AGAIN. this is not a video on how technology works in star trek. but how a real life counterpart would work. the entire intertial dampner portion is bullshit because we don't have anything close to that in real life. and she confused 2 diffrent things together. because the thrusters would be creating the g-forces that would kill the crew which the intertial dampners would have to counteract.
Some buildings have inertial dampeners for wind/earthquake stability. The "inner chamber" is suspended by springs/shocks from the "outer hull". There's also counterweights, so it doesn't become a bouncy castle inside. I was expecting this kind.
@@ALL_OUT_OF_BUBBLEGUM force fields? XD try artificial gravity. what were they supposed to do with forcefields? put an individual force field around each molecule inside a humans body? otherwise they would simply go splat against a force field rather then a bulkhead. with the speed these ships are going when they are doing "evasive manouvers" the g-forces created would resemble the gravity of standing on the surface of the sun. you would weigh thousands and thousands of pounds and get crushed under the weight of your own body. the ships however are able to somehow generate a gravity field. and it's safe to assume these are strong enoegh to do the same and then some. so if it then generates the same amount of gravity in the opposite direction of the g-forces. the end result is 0 and nobody feels a thing.
cant believe this video is already out of date, just yesterday I saw an article about how scientists have successfully done nuclear fusion recently, creatng more power than it took to generate it :)
In the TOS episode Tomorrow Is Yesterday, the Enterprise was flung back in time by a "black star." That was a contemporary scientific hypothesis that competed with black holes. Later, the holes won. Also, most starts named are real, and the measurement of distances in parsecs is too.
Teleporters, invisibly cloaks, and replicators.. A few years ago we were able to transport a single atom from one location to another. Also, the US military has prototyped a cloak/material which bends light around it, rendering anything behind it invisible. A replicator is basically a super advanced 3-D printer that uses matter/energy conversion.
Ya gotta start somewhere. Main technology that makes the world peace in Star Trek possible isn't warp drive, but the particle physics that allow the transporters. I'm not sure what it was used for first, but the same technology that allows you to transport person's miles away in seconds, is comparable in function to the technology to replicate food out of stored nutrient stores or other articles (such as clothing) that bring the Human race out of poverty, thus eliminating the need for struggles and conflicts.
@@ALL_OUT_OF_BUBBLEGUM the transporters are not miraculous at all. they are demonic. everyone in star trek who is afraid to use the transporters are the only real living people remaining. the rest are ALL clones and the original dies the first time they use a transporter. the simple fact that it has at times created a duplicate shows this. if it was really transporting the original then no duplicate could have ever been formed. the ONLY sci fi transporters i would ever use. are the transporter rings from stargate. they seem to actually send over a beam of energy containing the original. you can even intercept this beam and have them materialise on a diffrent set of rings then originally intended by flying into the matter stream before the pulse is sent. only if the original is converted to ENERGY accompanied by data on how to reconstitute that SAME energy, i would trust a transporter. only then would i feel like the original is transported instead of just the instructions on how to make an exact copy.
Low gravity is also useful for studying gases/plasmas or mixing new metal alloys, and ceramic compounds (Like Gundarium/Lunar Titanium in the Mobile Suit Gundam franchise.
Until a crazy military state of colonies orbiting earth that's run by a mentally ill crazy family wants to drop a giant living space habitat onto Sydney Australia
@@Menaceblue3 Please.... The Bidens are FAR more evil, corrupt, and child predatory than they are mentally ill. The mental illness is more of a personality trait at this point.
When you start talking about the warp drive I was really hoping that you were going to discuss the most recent scientific findings discovering a micro warp bubble in science last year during a completely different unrelated experiment that they actually did discover a warp field bubble and that is opening up an entire new realm of science right now for faster than light travel
I thought warp drive was going to be mentioned too, especially because since the show first aired in the sixties, at least one physicist came up with some workable warp field theories that the scientific community was intrigued by.
@@HrLBolle pretty sure a jump drive basicly opens up a wormhole. so it would have nothing to do with a warp bubble. though i guess a wormhole is basicly a warp bubble so strong that it doesn't JUST shrink the space between 2 points but shinks it so much that it actually makes them touch. (just to give an idea at how much power it would take to achieve this. when you concider that creating a usable warp bubble is already out of our current power generating capability's)
@@darkracer1252 yeah the power requirements for a hyperlight jump like the ones shown in "Battlestar Galactica (RDM)" seem to be so high that not even the Tylium Reactors can provide enough energy instantly, for ships of certain size that is. The "colonial Raptors" seem to be able to perform instant jumps, whereas ships like Galactica herself need an unspecified time before being capable of jumping, especially if unprepared (Miniseries when they are forced to jump to RAGNAR Anchorage), Col. Tigh gives the order to spin up the FTL drives1 and 2. I guess that these spinners do not only store but compress ;lack of better word; the energy until it reaches a supercritical state ( a state just shy of unleashing it all like a supernova) by the way BSG is a pretty good show
yeah! soon we can use light as an interconnect for our silicon chips - such a system would mean things on two totally separate chips could be just as fast as things together on a single chip - which would be a total game changer in terms of chip size vs yield - let alone performance!
Intertial dampeners existing was correct, however the explanation of how they work was incorrect. Inertial dampeners in Star Trek work by projecting a subspace field of the exact opposite vector of how the ship is moving, effectively completely nullifying motion as far as the crew is concerned. People shaking or getting thrown around is explained as very small amounts of "lag" between sudden motion and the inertial dampeners reacting (basically the dampeners not reacting quite fast enough to sudden/unexpected motion, which usually only happens in battles). Any type of motion caused by the ship's controls is known about by the system, so it automatically compensates with no lag.
10:01 the American DOD have been working on warp-drive. You can read about it in there budget years ago, it’s offical. Not sure they made something that worked 😄
There are a lot of things to be added to or corrected. The reason for why Silicon-based life is practically impossible is a bit fuzzy. While it is true that Silicon tends to bond with Oxygen, due to Silicon and Oxygen form a stable bond, but the reason behind that is a bit more complex than that. Silicon can also bond with various types of materials. Carbon, Hydrogen, Chlorine. Just to name a few. However, these bonds don't form double bonds. And that is due to s-oribitals in Silicon are huge. In fact that huge, p-orbital do not overlap anymore (a double bond is an overlap of s- and p-orbitals). So most bonds are instable or meta-stable, which means they can easily be broken. Silicondioxide, as much as every other element prefers to bond in a stable state. Which means all the fancy organic molecules that exist for carbon, have no equivalents for Silicon. Sorry folks, there is no silicon-based alcohol or meat. Warp Drive in Star Trek is indeed not the same as the proposals made by Migues Alcubierre and other scientists. Real world "warp" is utilizing the effect of a contracting and expanding spacetime, but it doesn't rely on subspace. In fact math indicates it is plausible to have a "Warp Bubble" but it doesn't not allow to maintain or create the bubble with a reasonable amount of (negative) energy. Therefore the writers of Star Trek introduced subspace (yes, it not only used for communication)". They basically circumvent this issue, by phasing the ship out of the spacetime continuum, putting it into subspace, where the laws of physics are slightly different. RCS thrusters are no intertial dampeners. RCS thrusters are a chemical propulsion system. Basically rockets. They help correct the course and may eben help to slow the ship down a bit. However, RCS thusters are way too small to move a ship of several hundreds up to millions of metric tons effectively. Therefore it seems implausible that RCS thrusters are able to reverse the thrust from the impulse drive. The usage on smaller craft is indeed portrayed well. At least on Enterprise. Inertial dampeners may not even be necessary. Current understanding of physics and models based on it suggest, that at the center of the warp bubble the forces would nullify. Therfore a ship at the center of the warp bubble would experience no force at all. If that turns out true, then you'd still be floating in space, even if the ship goes with a trillion times the speed of light. However, one of the more serious issues is the radiation. Radiation tends to become "harder" the faster you go. Take a radio wave. If would slowy become visible, the faster you go, surpassing UV, X-Ray, Gamma-Ray and even worse, until suddenly high energetic particles would pop up. Everyone who wasn't already fried by the heat or killed by radiation poisoning would now be plain dead.
Thank you for a great video, I greatly appreciated this overview. In defense of Star Trek V, whether Sha Ka Ree is at the exact center is left a little vague, though the movie does indeed have serious believability gaps such as the one you mentioned. Thank you once again for all the great work you and the others do on this channel :).
Man they mentioned how warp drives works without including Miguel Alcubierre in the video (he's basically our real life couterpart to Zephirine Cochran)
Inertial dampeners are not what you describe in the video. You described thrusters. Inertial dampeners are some kind of technomagic that prevent humans from becoming red smears on the inside of the ship whenever the ship accelerates or decelerates. Cuz without them, if you suddenly go to warp speed, the ship moves forward but your body doesn't, so the ship hits your body at warp speed. Inertial dampeners prevent that from happening.
A few points: originally, warp speeds were stated to be the warp number cubed times the speed of light. So warp 9 (maximum speed in TOS) would have been 729 times faster than light. Except it wasn't faster than light. Warp space has the same rule; you can't travel faster than light. A television critic in the 1960's laughed as Star Trek because the "big rocket engines" (warp nacelles) didn't have exhaust ports. They don't because they do not produce thrust; they produce extremely powerful electro-magnetic fields which "warp" space. In warp, the departure and destination points are closer together than they are in normal space. But in warp space, it is actually the impulse engines which propel the ship forward, not the warp nacelles. Regarding the "bussards"; I'm not sure when that term first reared it's head in the Star Trek community. Originally, the domes on the front of the nacelles were labelled "space energy/matter acquistion sinks" and the stern end of the nacelles were labelled "space energy/matter reintegration sinks". These techno-babble terms suggsted that the nacelles were collecting both matter and energy, doing something to power the warp field, but then restoring the matter and energy back into the universe. A real world concept which closely resembles the idea of a "bussard" is a hydrogen ram scoop, which isn't actually a physical piece of equipment (other than an opening in the cllection tanks). A hydrogen ram scoop is a magnetic field, many kilometers long and probably a kilomter or more in diamater at the far end which "herds" hydrogen atoms into the collection tanks of the vessel. Moving a piece of a starship (or anything else) in space is not accomplished with very little energy. True, it has no weight, but it does have mass. Mass requires energy to get it moving, requires energy to get it to stop and requires energy to change it's direction of travel. If the Enterprise's saucer section "weighs" 100 metric tons, then it has a mass of 100 metric tons (more or less). It requires a significant amount of energy to move it. But Star Trek also uses anti-gravity, an SF technology that basically cancels the effect of gravity to eliminate not only weight, but mass (depending on what the plot requires).
so... the fusion part of this material became partially incorrect, in the light of the recent breakthrough made by the scientists from the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, CA
Actually, Replicators, Transporters, and Holodeck all use the same technology. Water in the Holodeck is real replicated water, some plants are real, held in the transporter's pattern buffer (plants are less complex than people so less chance of data decay), and if you're in the holodeck at the wrong time, your body will be dematerialized/disassembled/recycled into the particle storage used to replicate things. It's how toilets are handled, and unfinished food that is put back in the replicator to be recycled. It all gets put into the particle/energy stock to build new objects or food.
Well, that's how an Alcubierre drive works. It just happens to sound a lot like a warp drive. But it's a ficational technology. Alcubierre drives are unproven but also not ruled out. I'm picking nits.
Like Tennant doctor who #10, Weeelll One additional detail about carbon vs silicon based life, is although C and Si are the same when having bonds to combine, the external orbital with same number of electrons, but... Si isn't soluble in water. C uses way less energy in water and others solutes.. That's why here life is all carbon based. So it would need much more energy than C and water. Most concepts are scientific at the bottom, but not feasible.
I'm 68. It's amazing what we have today. Ah the communicator, not quiet like Star Trek but close. The Tricorder, getting there. Voice controlled computers close. Warp Drive, in theory it's possible. Antimatter does exist, but to make enough to power a ship...not yet. The transporter, along way to make it safe. Aside from Star Trek the one thing I hope to see ( guess I won't ) is when the star Betelgeuse goes super nova. The light show to remember.
voice controller computers close??????????? we have had voice controlled computers for DECADES. but people don't like it. just imagine sitting there in the backroom on the computer while the family is in the front room. and you yell out. "computer, go to pornhub" "computer, search for brazillian fart sex" but i can control my computer with my voice right now if i wanted to. infact gamers do this in space simulators. because there's too many controls for a flightstick. they use voice attack. wich recognised voice commands wich you can bind to whatever action you want. like key presses. mouse movements. opening of certain programs. you name it. and yes. my whole life i have been looking at orion whenever it's up there hoping to just happen to be looking at it to see the initial flash. if i wanna see it. it would have to have already gone supernova though.
A theory that I have is that a warp drive works by biting into the barrier between subspace and normal space like a bulldozer's treads into soft mud. This is why areas with high warp traffic are prone to tearing in that same barrier.
In addition, pertaining to warp drive in Trek, the ship itself is not moving at all. The warp nacelles create a warp field around the ship, and it's space itself that moves around thisenergy field. The ships are not designed to handle warp speed unprotected by the bubble. If they were, they would all be the equivalent of Battleships or A-10 Warthogs. No concussive Force could ever separate a warp nacelle or damage the hull. It would be designed to handle the stress of Warp 10. This is why the Warp Wave theory in TNG is ludicrous. One of Abrams movies illustrates the warp bubble perfectly, looking very fluid like.
I never too Shak'aree (-2sp) to be at the exact center of the galaxy, I always assumed it was in the core region of the galaxy (that glowey part in the middle) big difference between center of the galaxy and in the core of the galaxy
The fusion reaction in the impulse engines doesn't need to produce more energy than what they use. If they were the ship's generators, they would need to. You could be using some non-propulsion form of energy to "fuel" the fusion propulsion engines, just like we use electricity to "fuel" the electric motor of an EV.
Warp drive doesn't work in the way described in the video, but rather by having a ship partially enter subspace, inside of which things can go faster than the speed of light, while involving the ship in a bubble of normal space, so that time dilation effects aren't felt. In other words, it's a totally fictional concept. The method of FTL travel you described is the Alcubierre drive, which is real, but hypothetical.
subspace IS NOT REAL it's a fucking video on things in star trek that have a relation to real life science. star trek has warp drives. and she explained how the real life counterpart would theoreticly work.
I always get annoyed with how people think impulse drive works. Fusion powered, yes. But it’s not a rocket motor. The thrust required to reach any amount of speed would be unworkable. The drive system uses gravitational distortion to enable massive acceleration…while it does vent exhaust gasses out the back.
But unfortunately, the Orville is more like real science-fiction Star Trek is based off stuff you can actually do did you know that in the 70s the government actually came out with a Warp Drive but unfortunately we don’t have a power source to power it the US government that is. They’ll have to wait until we can come up with a fusion reactor warren, antimatter reactor in real life to have that type of power
"...unfortunately so far no experiment has been able to produce more energy than it costs to unduce the fusion, in other words there is no net power gain..." Researchers at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory: hold my beer.
You forgot to mention the "Heisenberg Compensators!!" Put into place to "Compensate" for Werner Heisenberg's REAL theory that you can never know the exact location of a sub-atomic particle...this rendering Transporting an impossibility... So the writers of Star Trek came up with the "Heisenberg Compensators" to get around it. O'Brian mentions them several times relaying his Techno-Babble in TNG.
That last clip was the traveler episode. In that episode, they said they needed to go through three galaxies to reach where they now were, the Triangulum Galaxy. That episode makes me wonder. Did astronomers simply not know what Triangulum was in 1987, or where Triangulum was in 1987? We know now that Triangulum is actually a satellite of Andromeda. So, when did astronomers discover this? I highly doubt "going through three galaxies" meant everything just so happened to be perfectly-aligned, so we needed to go through one Milky Way satellite, then one Andromeda satellite, then Andromeda, and then Triangulum. I cannot speak for 300 years of orbits, but as for today, we currently have a straight-shot at Triangulum.
#8, subspace channels relied on relays placed at key points around the Alpha quadrant (and I guess later Beta and Gamma (though theD Dominion War saw all of them destroyed). None of these existed in the Delta quadrant. #1, even if we hit Warp 1 (speed of light), the vast distances of space will still require a long travel time, Proxima Centauri is 4.22 YEARS away at Warp 1!
@@ALL_OUT_OF_BUBBLEGUM well we haven’t found an equivalent to subspace, but quantum physics has a huge bunch of unknown properties and lots of weirdness. Couldn’t rule out ftl communications at quantum levels, unless a unified theory says the speed of light is the top speed across the board (though quantum entanglement seems to predict otherwise).
As you suggest the shape of the deflector field must push particles at least as far out as the nacelles - probably further out so that particles don't interfere with the nacelles if the collectors are not attracting them from the passing flow.
you forgot replicators. There is already ways of 3d printing food from protein. the taste is apparently disgusting but we are getting there. 2d printer can print plastic and even metal, cement etc... so a replicator of a complex item could be in the near future. There is also a recent breakthrough for teleportation done using quantum computers so transporters are getting there
My favorite fact about silicon life is that while carbon dioxide is a gas, silicon dioxide is quartz. So... silicon based life would likely use some other chemical pathway.
pretty sure if you heat up sillicon dioxide to the appropriate temperatures, that it would be a gas aswel. and get carbon dioxide cold enoegh and you get a solid aswel. (dry ice)
Information can actually travel faster than light, however information carried by any particle can't move faster than light. Example: You have a pair of scissors, each part is a light year long. You close the scissors, and each side approaches each other at near the speed of light (greater than 99% c). The vertex of where the 2 parts meet will travel faster than light, this is however just pure information. From an outside perspective though that information will arrive at the point at the same time as both blades, thus conserving the speed limit. However from the datas perspective, it must travel further to reach that point thus must be traveling faster than light.
Technically it's still possible for there to be a SMBH in the center of the Star Trek galaxy. There being a planet somewhere near it is still possible and likely.
They had to cross the great barrier to get to sha ka ree in the center but A) where that barrier is and B) how big they are calling the center is not stated. Technically the center could be tens of thousands of light years across with the planet barely inside the outer edge.
The only hitch with Warp Drive is the insane energy requirements needed to actually compress and expand space for it to work. For a long time now it's been thought and known that we would need to use antimatter to generate the energy needed, as that is the stuff that produces enough energy to manipulate space. More recently, discoveries have made it more feasible that we could use Warp Drive and the production of antimatter is getting easier. Ever just so slightly though. So we're still a long ways off from traveling to other stars in our life time, if at all. But with the current rate of technological advancement, who knows? After all, just twenty years ago today's technology would be considered either science fiction or science fantasy. For all the surveillance use and implications of big tech companies and how we've allowed things like Alexa into our homes and lives, if we could divorce Alexa from Amazon's surveillance into private lives, we'd pretty much have the voice commanded computer from Star Trek. (We do, just that we have a lot of peering into our privacy by big tech due to it.) I know just ten years ago that was laughable, and now no one is laughing.
at first we would be using sub interstellar warp drive. as in just inside our own solar system. we MIGHT see that in our life times if we manage to last well into old age. our first hurdle isn't power generation either. it's power storage. creating anti matter would be a way to "store" energy. but seriously our planet and society needs better battery's as long as battery chargers for anything are still a thing, there is no point to even think about dreaming about warp drive.
Off topic, I wish Voyager did an episode where the crew visited an alien world with advanced alien species, with a twist. The alien race have two groups with opposite respiratory system. One group breathe in oxygen, and breathe out carbon dioxide, and the other group is vice versa. There is many violent conflicts between the groups has resulted in their world suffering climate change, due to the heavy carbon dioxide in the atmosphere due the slaughter for oxygen breathing faction. Mixture between *Let that be Your last battlefield* and *Force of Nature*
fun fact; We actualy do have a silica based life form here on earth, the Glass Sponges found near Vancouver, Canada in Howe Sound (and other locations going up the coast). Individual organisms have dated to 9000 years. Curious organisms !
Another thing I want to point out about our milky way galaxy is in Star Trek, I've seen more star systems with only a single star, however, a binary star system is way more common, with 85% of stars being binary
If you're for another example of a vessel scooping space gasses - the Jupiter Mining ship Red Dwarf has quite a sizable ramscoop from its interstellar days.
I really don't linke your take on the dampeners. They don't drag the ship. The only Effekt on the ship I know of in Startrek is that they don't rip apart mid flight or can take flight in atmosphere. The moste time the ship stops in space in star trek is in weard anomalies.
If they would have waited an extra nine days the fusion thing would have turned out different they have now accomplished fusion with more energy being produced than used
The production of anti-matter, at least in the nearer term, might be a matter of harvesting naturally occurring anti-matter in space. Known as "pair Production", said antimatter is produced in space by interaction with particles, in this case, in Earth's radiation belts and cosmic rays. The amount of anti-matter is thought to be SUBSTANTIAL. Enough to make Star Trek viable. This should be settled with the PAMELA mission, whose task will be to find anti-matter and dark matter in space. If it so, then efforts to harvest anti-matter can begin.
@@Paleorunner2 the real science there being that in real life we experiance time lag. takes 20 minutes for a signal to reach mars for example. but doesn't talk about that and instead starts rambling about the subspace communication in star trek. yes the video is pretty damn inconsistant and crappy. especially the inertial dampners bit. honestly it should be removed and redone.
Nothing can ACCELERATE beyond the speed of light. Nothing says something can't be created/come into existence already going that fast. But, if it did, it would be impossible to DECELERATE below light speed.
Love these information packed episodes, but what I'd like to know is if it was possible to build the ships today how much would they cost? Keep up the good work 👏
But (unrelatedly), never forget Scotty's blatant eye-poke to the Temporal Prime Detective!!!!..... Remember it....... TRANSPARENT ALUMINUM... which is way more advanced than it seems,it has _4 dimensional properties, put 2 juvenile Humpback whales in a tank made of it,and they'll fit in the available and reclaimable space on a Bird Of Prey!!!!???..(Klingon Ships being famous for their luxury berths, padded reclining seats,and ample overhead luggage racks!!)let alone, despite being, size for size one of the toughest and powerful
1. I know how to create fusion for space travel without expending too much energy. When I watched a documentary about how buckyballs are made in a lab, they showed two low power lasers, neither of which could create much heat on their own. However, by converging the light beams, the temperature at that point was as much as the sun. 2. Warp drive is unnecessary when you really understand Einstein. At light speed time is zero and distance is zero. That means light doesn't travel through the universe, the universe moves around light. If you could go at exactly the speed of light, the entire universe would collapse upon you. You would be everywhere and everywhen at the same time. How you could navigate and steer at this state, that I have no idea.
At the speed of light the universe isn't a point - distance contraction is in the direction of travel relative to the observer, things in front of you would be infinitely close, things behind you would be infinitely far away and everything in between would be projected around the skin of a cone with the future being the infinitely small tip. It's just as true that the photon is infinitely far from its origin as it is to say the photon is infinitely close to its destination - so a line, probably a cone, not a point.
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This video is confusing REACTION CONTROL THRUSTERS with INERTIAL DAMPENERS. Reaction control thrusters keep a ship from moving when it is subjected to force or gravity. Inertial dampeners by contrast work inside the ship to prevent the incredible acceleration of the ship from turning the crew into pancakes.
I was going to comment the same thing. ;)
mmm Pancakes... with mint frosting!
more like goo/paste
No need to shout!
@@michaelarulanantham8833 I'm not loud, I'm Italian. I don't have an indoor voice. But it got your attention. 😊
There’s also sonic showers, which were put in the Motion Picture because NASA had developed them. Of course later depictions imply that they’re also waterless, whereas a real sonic shower uses sound to agitate/vibrate the water in a shower to make it clean you more efficiently and minimise water usage.
Golden?
@@DMSProduktions latinum?
How did this not make the list????
Makes sense that NASA would have sonic showers. Having to haul around or create lots of clean water just for bathing is gonna be a real problem on the ISS and long-duration spaceflights like an eventual manned mission to Mars.
@@vic5015 they are at least helped by the fact that people are less stinky in microgravity. I can't remember why, but I remember an astronaut talking about it. I think it was Chris Hadfield.
the way you're describing the inertial dampeners is what are actually the maneuvering thrusters. the inertial dampeners are part of the artificial gravity systems, and help protect the crew from the rapid acceleration and deceleration of high impulse and warp speeds by varying the gravity vectors on board. also, if the main and impulse engines go offline, you're still gonna drift, as you don't have anything to power the maneuvering thrusters to slow you down, either.
I thought the reason for the inertia dampeners also protected the crew from the issues of extreme changes in speed. Even fairly slow speeds in Star Trek would turn you to human jelly against the bulkhead.
that was my understanding as well...especially going into warp speeds
@@chuckasualty not in warp speed, but in all other cases. Warp speed is not an inertial based speed, it creates a bubble which acts as a non inertial based vacuum, relying instead on velocity as the only value of spatial distance translocation. Without inertia, there is no drag or g forces, merely acceleration.
I am a nerd.
She says that
@@andrewbenbow9257 That is correct. And it can be proven mathematically.
she seems to be confusing inertial dampeners with reaction control and station keeping thrusters.. both of which are very real.
When it comes to space travel, I think we are closer to the Expanse then Star Trek, i'd love to see a video from this group looking at the Expanse Tech in relation to what we have today.
To be fair, the whole black hole at the center of the galaxy thing wasn't a thing until the late 2000's-2010's when ST5 was made in 1989. No one knew what laid there yet.
Couldn’t you explain that one by saying that the planet orbited the super massive black hole? or….just forget Star Trek V ever existed, as to be fair, it was totally bonkers!
It was widely known at the time, just hadn't been proven yet.
I'm still waiting for the origin of the great barriers at the edge and center of the galaxy to be used in one of the shows or movies.
@@Mad-Bassist to stop the reapers coming. lol (mass effect reference)
@@Mad-Bassist I kind of think that they are both related to each other - The Barrier could be like Earth's magnetic field. Generated at the core of the galaxy by the super massive black hole and then projected around the entire galaxy, just like our own magnetic field does. Though it must use some kinds of exotic energy, since simple magnetic energy wouldn't prevent ships from passing through or the strange mutations in the crew of the Enterprise.
I have read that in Star Trek lore, that someone or something - the Q perhaps? - put it there to protect the galaxy from outside threats (or to contain the Federation and other powers within it.)
Trivia - Sha-ka-ree was named after Sean Connery. They wanted him for Sybok
Yeah, but like ILM he was busy with Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade.
@@DelcoRanz93 And did he ever make the right choice.
I think they actually covered that movie trivia fact in a previous video.
I miss him.
He'll always be Henry Jones Sr. to me.
@@ALL_OUT_OF_BUBBLEGUM Captain Marco Ramius for me
@@johnwrigley1624 Total classic as well. (I quote Red October more than I quote Last Crusade).
The Rock is also later era Connery at his best
Since other people have already posted corrections about the inertial dampeners, I’d like to tackle a misconception you had about warp drive. The misconception itself is widely held by Star Trek fans, and potentially even by Star Trek staff. Warp Drive does work by manipulating the fabric of spacetime, yes, but it does not travel through real space as you described. Real space being the term I and some others use to describe/define our specific slice/plane of reality. Alcubierre warp drives warp spacetime for superluminal travel through real space, whereas Star Trek warp drives warp space to ‘dive’ into and perform superluminal travel within subspace. The misconception arose when people retroactively claimed Alcubierre warp dynamics for subspace warp mechanics. Alcubierre warp mechanics could conceivably have been an in universe precursor science to their subspace warp mechanics, but if it were just stock Alcubierre warp then there would be no need for subspace whatsoever, as it would not be utilized.
Inertial dampeners are actually a field generator that counteracts acceleration. Ships thrusters are what's used to counteract spin/rotation/etc and are a real thing called the reaction control system (RCS), which has been in service since we took to space. They're simply small thruster nozzles placed around a vessel. Whereas the inertial dampener system creates a field that absorbs acceleration forces.
The famous groaning or 'engine noise" we always hear as a ST ship accelerates is actually the dampeners working and why the pitch always starts off low and rises higher until the velocity stabilizes.
.....honestly, you call yourselves trekkers? :)
fucking trekker -_-
AGAIN.
this is not a video on how technology works in star trek. but how a real life counterpart would work.
the entire intertial dampner portion is bullshit because we don't have anything close to that in real life.
and she confused 2 diffrent things together. because the thrusters would be creating the g-forces that would kill the crew which the intertial dampners would have to counteract.
Some buildings have inertial dampeners for wind/earthquake stability.
The "inner chamber" is suspended by springs/shocks from the "outer hull".
There's also counterweights, so it doesn't become a bouncy castle inside.
I was expecting this kind.
one example be the in the taipei 101 tower if i`m not mistaken
But Trek inertial dampening is done with force fields, not simple physics.
@@ALL_OUT_OF_BUBBLEGUM force fields? XD
try artificial gravity.
what were they supposed to do with forcefields? put an individual force field around each molecule inside a humans body?
otherwise they would simply go splat against a force field rather then a bulkhead.
with the speed these ships are going when they are doing "evasive manouvers" the g-forces created would resemble the gravity of standing on the surface of the sun.
you would weigh thousands and thousands of pounds and get crushed under the weight of your own body.
the ships however are able to somehow generate a gravity field. and it's safe to assume these are strong enoegh to do the same and then some.
so if it then generates the same amount of gravity in the opposite direction of the g-forces. the end result is 0 and nobody feels a thing.
cant believe this video is already out of date, just yesterday I saw an article about how scientists have successfully done nuclear fusion recently, creatng more power than it took to generate it :)
i know it is in the early stages but we are geting there
In the TOS episode Tomorrow Is Yesterday, the Enterprise was flung back in time by a "black star." That was a contemporary scientific hypothesis that competed with black holes. Later, the holes won.
Also, most starts named are real, and the measurement of distances in parsecs is too.
the theoretical Warp Drive we have is called the Alcubierre Drive
I don't know why they didn't even mention that!!!!???
that's the most famous one. but certainly not the only one. wich is exactly why she didn't mention any one specificly
Teleporters, invisibly cloaks, and replicators.. A few years ago we were able to transport a single atom from one location to another. Also, the US military has prototyped a cloak/material which bends light around it, rendering anything behind it invisible. A replicator is basically a super advanced 3-D printer that uses matter/energy conversion.
This guy would be amazing at Trek Culture Sins.
they never teleported anything.
basicly what they did was quantum entanglement.
they teleported information. not actual mass
The Horta was one of the more interesting creatures seen in the original series.
And they serve in Starfleet.
@@makeracistsafraidagain Yeah, and they make phenomenal miners.
Aren't Tholians also Silicon based?
Spock: The Pain!!!!
Kirk: Get that man an aspirin.
The few bits of real world science are great, but personally I find the virtually miraculous technology to be much more interesting.
Ya gotta start somewhere.
Main technology that makes the world peace in Star Trek possible isn't warp drive, but the particle physics that allow the transporters.
I'm not sure what it was used for first, but the same technology that allows you to transport person's miles away in seconds, is comparable in function to the technology to replicate food out of stored nutrient stores or other articles (such as clothing) that bring the Human race out of poverty, thus eliminating the need for struggles and conflicts.
@@ALL_OUT_OF_BUBBLEGUM I thought it was replicators rather than transporters.🤔
@@ALL_OUT_OF_BUBBLEGUM the transporters are not miraculous at all. they are demonic.
everyone in star trek who is afraid to use the transporters are the only real living people remaining.
the rest are ALL clones and the original dies the first time they use a transporter.
the simple fact that it has at times created a duplicate shows this.
if it was really transporting the original then no duplicate could have ever been formed.
the ONLY sci fi transporters i would ever use. are the transporter rings from stargate.
they seem to actually send over a beam of energy containing the original.
you can even intercept this beam and have them materialise on a diffrent set of rings then originally intended by flying into the matter stream before the pulse is sent.
only if the original is converted to ENERGY accompanied by data on how to reconstitute that SAME energy, i would trust a transporter.
only then would i feel like the original is transported instead of just the instructions on how to make an exact copy.
Low gravity is also useful for studying gases/plasmas
or mixing new metal alloys, and ceramic compounds
(Like Gundarium/Lunar Titanium in the Mobile Suit Gundam franchise.
Omg now I'm gonna need to nerd out about Gundam Wing for an hour!
Jeezus, I miss that show too.
Right, also manufacturing, you cannot create a perfectly smooth surface on Earth.
Until a crazy military state of colonies orbiting earth that's run by a mentally ill crazy family wants to drop a giant living space habitat onto Sydney Australia
@@Menaceblue3 Please.... The Bidens are FAR more evil, corrupt, and child predatory than they are mentally ill.
The mental illness is more of a personality trait at this point.
Well now we have a net energy gain for fusion, its exciting if we can scale it up
When you start talking about the warp drive I was really hoping that you were going to discuss the most recent scientific findings discovering a micro warp bubble in science last year during a completely different unrelated experiment that they actually did discover a warp field bubble and that is opening up an entire new realm of science right now for faster than light travel
I thought warp drive was going to be mentioned too,
especially because since the show first aired in the sixties, at least one physicist came up with some workable warp field theories that the scientific community was intrigued by.
could that mean not only Star Trek WARPDRIVE is possible but a Jump Drive of sorts, like the one utilized in Battlestar Galactica, might be as well
@@HrLBolle
pretty sure a jump drive basicly opens up a wormhole. so it would have nothing to do with a warp bubble.
though i guess a wormhole is basicly a warp bubble so strong that it doesn't JUST shrink the space between 2 points but shinks it so much that it actually makes them touch. (just to give an idea at how much power it would take to achieve this. when you concider that creating a usable warp bubble is already out of our current power generating capability's)
@@darkracer1252 yeah the power requirements for a hyperlight jump like the ones shown in "Battlestar Galactica (RDM)" seem to be so high that not even the Tylium Reactors can provide enough energy instantly, for ships of certain size that is.
The "colonial Raptors" seem to be able to perform instant jumps, whereas ships like Galactica herself need an unspecified time before being capable of jumping, especially if unprepared (Miniseries when they are forced to jump to RAGNAR Anchorage), Col. Tigh gives the order to spin up the FTL drives1 and 2.
I guess that these spinners do not only store but compress ;lack of better word; the energy until it reaches a supercritical state ( a state just shy of unleashing it all like a supernova)
by the way BSG is a pretty good show
Check the previous videos in this channel, I think sometime in the summer Adam Cleary talked about this discovery
Optical chips. IBM recently published some interesting tech.
yeah! soon we can use light as an interconnect for our silicon chips - such a system would mean things on two totally separate chips could be just as fast as things together on a single chip - which would be a total game changer in terms of chip size vs yield - let alone performance!
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Intertial dampeners existing was correct, however the explanation of how they work was incorrect. Inertial dampeners in Star Trek work by projecting a subspace field of the exact opposite vector of how the ship is moving, effectively completely nullifying motion as far as the crew is concerned. People shaking or getting thrown around is explained as very small amounts of "lag" between sudden motion and the inertial dampeners reacting (basically the dampeners not reacting quite fast enough to sudden/unexpected motion, which usually only happens in battles). Any type of motion caused by the ship's controls is known about by the system, so it automatically compensates with no lag.
10:01 the American DOD have been working on warp-drive. You can read about it in there budget years ago, it’s offical. Not sure they made something that worked 😄
There are a lot of things to be added to or corrected.
The reason for why Silicon-based life is practically impossible is a bit fuzzy. While it is true that Silicon tends to bond with Oxygen, due to Silicon and Oxygen form a stable bond, but the reason behind that is a bit more complex than that. Silicon can also bond with various types of materials. Carbon, Hydrogen, Chlorine. Just to name a few. However, these bonds don't form double bonds. And that is due to s-oribitals in Silicon are huge. In fact that huge, p-orbital do not overlap anymore (a double bond is an overlap of s- and p-orbitals). So most bonds are instable or meta-stable, which means they can easily be broken. Silicondioxide, as much as every other element prefers to bond in a stable state. Which means all the fancy organic molecules that exist for carbon, have no equivalents for Silicon. Sorry folks, there is no silicon-based alcohol or meat.
Warp Drive in Star Trek is indeed not the same as the proposals made by Migues Alcubierre and other scientists. Real world "warp" is utilizing the effect of a contracting and expanding spacetime, but it doesn't rely on subspace. In fact math indicates it is plausible to have a "Warp Bubble" but it doesn't not allow to maintain or create the bubble with a reasonable amount of (negative) energy. Therefore the writers of Star Trek introduced subspace (yes, it not only used for communication)". They basically circumvent this issue, by phasing the ship out of the spacetime continuum, putting it into subspace, where the laws of physics are slightly different.
RCS thrusters are no intertial dampeners. RCS thrusters are a chemical propulsion system. Basically rockets. They help correct the course and may eben help to slow the ship down a bit. However, RCS thusters are way too small to move a ship of several hundreds up to millions of metric tons effectively. Therefore it seems implausible that RCS thrusters are able to reverse the thrust from the impulse drive. The usage on smaller craft is indeed portrayed well. At least on Enterprise.
Inertial dampeners may not even be necessary. Current understanding of physics and models based on it suggest, that at the center of the warp bubble the forces would nullify. Therfore a ship at the center of the warp bubble would experience no force at all. If that turns out true, then you'd still be floating in space, even if the ship goes with a trillion times the speed of light. However, one of the more serious issues is the radiation. Radiation tends to become "harder" the faster you go. Take a radio wave. If would slowy become visible, the faster you go, surpassing UV, X-Ray, Gamma-Ray and even worse, until suddenly high energetic particles would pop up. Everyone who wasn't already fried by the heat or killed by radiation poisoning would now be plain dead.
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Net positive fusion achieved 2 weeks after the video came out :)
The International Space Station was partially assembled in Space using the CanadArm.
Also "Hydrazine gas leak!" it's real life thruster fuel.
Thank you for a great video, I greatly appreciated this overview. In defense of Star Trek V, whether Sha Ka Ree is at the exact center is left a little vague, though the movie does indeed have serious believability gaps such as the one you mentioned. Thank you once again for all the great work you and the others do on this channel :).
I myself pretend Star Trek V is not canon.
Thank you.
2:24 recently scientists they managed to get more energy than they used
Man they mentioned how warp drives works without including Miguel Alcubierre in the video (he's basically our real life couterpart to Zephirine Cochran)
Inertial dampeners are not what you describe in the video. You described thrusters. Inertial dampeners are some kind of technomagic that prevent humans from becoming red smears on the inside of the ship whenever the ship accelerates or decelerates. Cuz without them, if you suddenly go to warp speed, the ship moves forward but your body doesn't, so the ship hits your body at warp speed. Inertial dampeners prevent that from happening.
Solid video
Thanks for a fun video.
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A few points: originally, warp speeds were stated to be the warp number cubed times the speed of light. So warp 9 (maximum speed in TOS) would have been 729 times faster than light. Except it wasn't faster than light. Warp space has the same rule; you can't travel faster than light. A television critic in the 1960's laughed as Star Trek because the "big rocket engines" (warp nacelles) didn't have exhaust ports. They don't because they do not produce thrust; they produce extremely powerful electro-magnetic fields which "warp" space. In warp, the departure and destination points are closer together than they are in normal space. But in warp space, it is actually the impulse engines which propel the ship forward, not the warp nacelles. Regarding the "bussards"; I'm not sure when that term first reared it's head in the Star Trek community. Originally, the domes on the front of the nacelles were labelled "space energy/matter acquistion sinks" and the stern end of the nacelles were labelled "space energy/matter reintegration sinks". These techno-babble terms suggsted that the nacelles were collecting both matter and energy, doing something to power the warp field, but then restoring the matter and energy back into the universe. A real world concept which closely resembles the idea of a "bussard" is a hydrogen ram scoop, which isn't actually a physical piece of equipment (other than an opening in the cllection tanks). A hydrogen ram scoop is a magnetic field, many kilometers long and probably a kilomter or more in diamater at the far end which "herds" hydrogen atoms into the collection tanks of the vessel. Moving a piece of a starship (or anything else) in space is not accomplished with very little energy. True, it has no weight, but it does have mass. Mass requires energy to get it moving, requires energy to get it to stop and requires energy to change it's direction of travel. If the Enterprise's saucer section "weighs" 100 metric tons, then it has a mass of 100 metric tons (more or less). It requires a significant amount of energy to move it. But Star Trek also uses anti-gravity, an SF technology that basically cancels the effect of gravity to eliminate not only weight, but mass (depending on what the plot requires).
so... the fusion part of this material became partially incorrect, in the light of the recent breakthrough made by the scientists from the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, CA
I am waiting on warp drive, replicators and transporter technology. The latter two would improve my life dramatically!
Actually, Replicators, Transporters, and Holodeck all use the same technology.
Water in the Holodeck is real replicated water, some plants are real, held in the transporter's pattern buffer (plants are less complex than people so less chance of data decay), and if you're in the holodeck at the wrong time, your body will be dematerialized/disassembled/recycled into the particle storage used to replicate things. It's how toilets are handled, and unfinished food that is put back in the replicator to be recycled. It all gets put into the particle/energy stock to build new objects or food.
All we need is to tackle the Heisenberg principal 😁
The first time you teleport you will be a different person. You technically died when teleported.
@@williammitchell4417 I thought we already did... ;P
you go ahead and use a suicide booth.. eeh i mean transporter.
i'll stick to shuttles.
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Hey Elle your awesome. At work now I look forward to watching this on the TV later
Transporters too.
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Well, that's how an Alcubierre drive works. It just happens to sound a lot like a warp drive.
But it's a ficational technology. Alcubierre drives are unproven but also not ruled out. I'm picking nits.
Thanks for the video. Have you also considered artificial gravity.
we currently have NOTHING like the aritificial gravity in star trek
Like Tennant doctor who #10, Weeelll
One additional detail about carbon vs silicon based life, is although C and Si are the same when having bonds to combine, the external orbital with same number of electrons, but...
Si isn't soluble in water. C uses way less energy in water and others solutes..
That's why here life is all carbon based.
So it would need much more energy than C and water.
Most concepts are scientific at the bottom, but not feasible.
I'm 68. It's amazing what we have today. Ah the communicator, not quiet like Star Trek but close. The Tricorder, getting there. Voice controlled computers close. Warp Drive, in theory it's possible. Antimatter does exist, but to make enough to power a ship...not yet. The transporter, along way to make it safe. Aside from Star Trek the one thing I hope to see ( guess I won't ) is when the star Betelgeuse goes super nova. The light show to remember.
voice controller computers close???????????
we have had voice controlled computers for DECADES. but people don't like it.
just imagine sitting there in the backroom on the computer while the family is in the front room. and you yell out. "computer, go to pornhub"
"computer, search for brazillian fart sex"
but i can control my computer with my voice right now if i wanted to. infact gamers do this in space simulators. because there's too many controls for a flightstick.
they use voice attack. wich recognised voice commands wich you can bind to whatever action you want.
like key presses. mouse movements. opening of certain programs. you name it.
and yes. my whole life i have been looking at orion whenever it's up there hoping to just happen to be looking at it to see the initial flash.
if i wanna see it. it would have to have already gone supernova though.
Um, the inertial dampers are gravity control within the ships' artificial gravity. What you described are maneuvering thrusters.
Awesome video and article :D thank you Ellie and Marcus!
A theory that I have is that a warp drive works by biting into the barrier between subspace and normal space like a bulldozer's treads into soft mud. This is why areas with high warp traffic are prone to tearing in that same barrier.
I love star trek for this
In addition, pertaining to warp drive in Trek, the ship itself is not moving at all. The warp nacelles create a warp field around the ship, and it's space itself that moves around thisenergy field. The ships are not designed to handle warp speed unprotected by the bubble. If they were, they would all be the equivalent of Battleships or A-10 Warthogs. No concussive Force could ever separate a warp nacelle or damage the hull. It would be designed to handle the stress of Warp 10.
This is why the Warp Wave theory in TNG is ludicrous. One of Abrams movies illustrates the warp bubble perfectly, looking very fluid like.
I always thought that the Inertial Dampeners were a magical field projector thing
You also missed the NASA experimental IXS Enterprise with her warp drive being deeloped as we speak.
Maybe we CAN have warp drive within 20 years.
I never too Shak'aree (-2sp) to be at the exact center of the galaxy, I always assumed it was in the core region of the galaxy (that glowey part in the middle) big difference between center of the galaxy and in the core of the galaxy
The fusion reaction in the impulse engines doesn't need to produce more energy than what they use. If they were the ship's generators, they would need to. You could be using some non-propulsion form of energy to "fuel" the fusion propulsion engines, just like we use electricity to "fuel" the electric motor of an EV.
Warp drive doesn't work in the way described in the video, but rather by having a ship partially enter subspace, inside of which things can go faster than the speed of light, while involving the ship in a bubble of normal space, so that time dilation effects aren't felt. In other words, it's a totally fictional concept. The method of FTL travel you described is the Alcubierre drive, which is real, but hypothetical.
subspace IS NOT REAL
it's a fucking video on things in star trek that have a relation to real life science.
star trek has warp drives.
and she explained how the real life counterpart would theoreticly work.
I always get annoyed with how people think impulse drive works. Fusion powered, yes. But it’s not a rocket motor. The thrust required to reach any amount of speed would be unworkable. The drive system uses gravitational distortion to enable massive acceleration…while it does vent exhaust gasses out the back.
Orville is another great show that takes a lot of what Star Trek did and made it greater, Seth MacFarlane is amazing writer/director
But unfortunately, the Orville is more like real science-fiction Star Trek is based off stuff you can actually do did you know that in the 70s the government actually came out with a Warp Drive but unfortunately we don’t have a power source to power it the US government that is. They’ll have to wait until we can come up with a fusion reactor warren, antimatter reactor in real life to have that type of power
"...unfortunately so far no experiment has been able to produce more energy than it costs to unduce the fusion, in other words there is no net power gain..."
Researchers at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory: hold my beer.
Wait ! Intertial dampeners are not only the devices keeping you from smashing into the backwall of a bridge when accelerating?
how to know more about energy shields and replicators. Can we have energy shields to reduce car crashes' impact and reduce deaths?
You forgot to mention the "Heisenberg Compensators!!"
Put into place to "Compensate" for Werner Heisenberg's REAL theory that you can never know the exact location of a sub-atomic particle...this rendering Transporting an impossibility...
So the writers of Star Trek came up with the "Heisenberg Compensators" to get around it.
O'Brian mentions them several times relaying his Techno-Babble in TNG.
That last clip was the traveler episode. In that episode, they said they needed to go through three galaxies to reach where they now were, the Triangulum Galaxy. That episode makes me wonder. Did astronomers simply not know what Triangulum was in 1987, or where Triangulum was in 1987?
We know now that Triangulum is actually a satellite of Andromeda.
So, when did astronomers discover this?
I highly doubt "going through three galaxies" meant everything just so happened to be perfectly-aligned, so we needed to go through one Milky Way satellite, then one Andromeda satellite, then Andromeda, and then Triangulum. I cannot speak for 300 years of orbits, but as for today, we currently have a straight-shot at Triangulum.
Sorry, I forgot to mention the holodeck. Yes it can be done today, but we have to wait for it to be like in the show.
#8, subspace channels relied on relays placed at key points around the Alpha quadrant (and I guess later Beta and Gamma (though theD Dominion War saw all of them destroyed). None of these existed in the Delta quadrant.
#1, even if we hit Warp 1 (speed of light), the vast distances of space will still require a long travel time, Proxima Centauri is 4.22 YEARS away at Warp 1!
Didn't that piss you off when she said Subspace technology was FICTIONAL as opposed to theoretical or hypothetical?
@@ALL_OUT_OF_BUBBLEGUM well we haven’t found an equivalent to subspace, but quantum physics has a huge bunch of unknown properties and lots of weirdness. Couldn’t rule out ftl communications at quantum levels, unless a unified theory says the speed of light is the top speed across the board (though quantum entanglement seems to predict otherwise).
Silicon based life might be difficult at our temperatures at lower temps the reactivity with oxygen becomes less of an issue :)
How do the Bussard collectors collect particles if the Deflector pushes everything out of the way?
Or are they placed in the deflector's wake?
As you suggest the shape of the deflector field must push particles at least as far out as the nacelles - probably further out so that particles don't interfere with the nacelles if the collectors are not attracting them from the passing flow.
@@NinjaXplode At warp velocities everything would be in the warp bubble and move with the ship
Working in Low G long enough and you become, Beltalowda... Annnnd with that I'll take my crossing the universes salt now.
you forgot replicators. There is already ways of 3d printing food from protein. the taste is apparently disgusting but we are getting there. 2d printer can print plastic and even metal, cement etc... so a replicator of a complex item could be in the near future. There is also a recent breakthrough for teleportation done using quantum computers so transporters are getting there
My favorite fact about silicon life is that while carbon dioxide is a gas, silicon dioxide is quartz. So... silicon based life would likely use some other chemical pathway.
pretty sure if you heat up sillicon dioxide to the appropriate temperatures, that it would be a gas aswel.
and get carbon dioxide cold enoegh and you get a solid aswel. (dry ice)
What about artificial gravity? Is that possible and force fields?
Information can actually travel faster than light, however information carried by any particle can't move faster than light.
Example:
You have a pair of scissors, each part is a light year long.
You close the scissors, and each side approaches each other at near the speed of light (greater than 99% c).
The vertex of where the 2 parts meet will travel faster than light, this is however just pure information. From an outside perspective though that information will arrive at the point at the same time as both blades, thus conserving the speed limit. However from the datas perspective, it must travel further to reach that point thus must be traveling faster than light.
How is Artemis working towards building ships in space?
Technically it's still possible for there to be a SMBH in the center of the Star Trek galaxy. There being a planet somewhere near it is still possible and likely.
They had to cross the great barrier to get to sha ka ree in the center but A) where that barrier is and B) how big they are calling the center is not stated. Technically the center could be tens of thousands of light years across with the planet barely inside the outer edge.
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The only hitch with Warp Drive is the insane energy requirements needed to actually compress and expand space for it to work. For a long time now it's been thought and known that we would need to use antimatter to generate the energy needed, as that is the stuff that produces enough energy to manipulate space. More recently, discoveries have made it more feasible that we could use Warp Drive and the production of antimatter is getting easier. Ever just so slightly though. So we're still a long ways off from traveling to other stars in our life time, if at all. But with the current rate of technological advancement, who knows? After all, just twenty years ago today's technology would be considered either science fiction or science fantasy. For all the surveillance use and implications of big tech companies and how we've allowed things like Alexa into our homes and lives, if we could divorce Alexa from Amazon's surveillance into private lives, we'd pretty much have the voice commanded computer from Star Trek. (We do, just that we have a lot of peering into our privacy by big tech due to it.) I know just ten years ago that was laughable, and now no one is laughing.
at first we would be using sub interstellar warp drive.
as in just inside our own solar system.
we MIGHT see that in our life times if we manage to last well into old age.
our first hurdle isn't power generation either. it's power storage.
creating anti matter would be a way to "store" energy. but seriously our planet and society needs better battery's
as long as battery chargers for anything are still a thing, there is no point to even think about dreaming about warp drive.
Off topic, I wish Voyager did an episode where the crew visited an alien world with advanced alien species, with a twist. The alien race have two groups with opposite respiratory system. One group breathe in oxygen, and breathe out carbon dioxide, and the other group is vice versa. There is many violent conflicts between the groups has resulted in their world suffering climate change, due to the heavy carbon dioxide in the atmosphere due the slaughter for oxygen breathing faction. Mixture between *Let that be Your last battlefield* and *Force of Nature*
fun fact; We actualy do have a silica based life form here on earth, the Glass Sponges found near Vancouver, Canada in Howe Sound (and other locations going up the coast). Individual organisms have dated to 9000 years. Curious organisms !
They only *use* silicon, their biology, cells and genetics, aren't made with it.
Another thing I want to point out about our milky way galaxy is in Star Trek, I've seen more star systems with only a single star, however, a binary star system is way more common, with 85% of stars being binary
If you're for another example of a vessel scooping space gasses - the Jupiter Mining ship Red Dwarf has quite a sizable ramscoop from its interstellar days.
What about the replicators?
There is another silicon lifeform in Dr Who - The Hand of Fear, but I think it was engineered.
I really don't linke your take on the dampeners.
They don't drag the ship. The only Effekt on the ship I know of in Startrek is that they don't rip apart mid flight or can take flight in atmosphere.
The moste time the ship stops in space in star trek is in weard anomalies.
If they would have waited an extra nine days the fusion thing would have turned out different they have now accomplished fusion with more energy being produced than used
The production of anti-matter, at least in the nearer term, might be a matter of harvesting naturally occurring anti-matter in space. Known as "pair Production", said antimatter is produced in space by interaction with particles, in this case, in Earth's radiation belts and cosmic rays. The amount of anti-matter is thought to be SUBSTANTIAL. Enough to make Star Trek viable. This should be settled with the PAMELA mission, whose task will be to find anti-matter and dark matter in space. If it so, then efforts to harvest anti-matter can begin.
Also we are getting close to; medical tricorders and energy force-fields. Holograms and phasers not so much....
The Borg dont use telepathy, it's all electronic technology.
I enjoyed the video, however, I'd like more explanation of how these technologies work IRL.
that's litterally the only thing she talked about..........
@@darkracer1252 she did not say how we would communicate FTL, only that's what they do.
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the real science there being that in real life we experiance time lag. takes 20 minutes for a signal to reach mars for example.
but doesn't talk about that and instead starts rambling about the subspace communication in star trek.
yes the video is pretty damn inconsistant and crappy. especially the inertial dampners bit.
honestly it should be removed and redone.
When trying to reverse away from something unpleasant, and then add "impulse power too," where does the reverse exhaust/thrust go?
Nothing can ACCELERATE beyond the speed of light. Nothing says something can't be created/come into existence already going that fast. But, if it did, it would be impossible to DECELERATE below light speed.
Guess the Heisenberg compensator has been talked about too much for this list?
Love these information packed episodes, but what I'd like to know is if it was possible to build the ships today how much would they cost? Keep up the good work 👏
Dude, they're made of Titanium, which doesn't even exist yet.
@@ALL_OUT_OF_BUBBLEGUM it does exist because I can get titanium rings and nuts and bolts
It's Tritanium I think??!!
@@RobertJones-wx4sg that's what I thought, but titanium is widely available
But (unrelatedly), never forget Scotty's blatant eye-poke to the Temporal Prime Detective!!!!..... Remember it....... TRANSPARENT ALUMINUM... which is way more advanced than it seems,it has _4 dimensional properties, put 2 juvenile Humpback whales in a tank made of it,and they'll fit in the available and reclaimable space on a Bird Of Prey!!!!???..(Klingon Ships being famous for their luxury berths, padded reclining seats,and ample overhead luggage racks!!)let alone, despite being, size for size one of the toughest and powerful
I wish WARP Drive for Christmas 😂😂 but it might be a little late since Santa hasn't delivered.
Wish for a ship replicator and a supply of dilithium!
1. I know how to create fusion for space travel without expending too much energy. When I watched a documentary about how buckyballs are made in a lab, they showed two low power lasers, neither of which could create much heat on their own. However, by converging the light beams, the temperature at that point was as much as the sun.
2. Warp drive is unnecessary when you really understand Einstein. At light speed time is zero and distance is zero. That means light doesn't travel through the universe, the universe moves around light. If you could go at exactly the speed of light, the entire universe would collapse upon you. You would be everywhere and everywhen at the same time. How you could navigate and steer at this state, that I have no idea.
At the speed of light the universe isn't a point - distance contraction is in the direction of travel relative to the observer, things in front of you would be infinitely close, things behind you would be infinitely far away and everything in between would be projected around the skin of a cone with the future being the infinitely small tip.
It's just as true that the photon is infinitely far from its origin as it is to say the photon is infinitely close to its destination - so a line, probably a cone, not a point.
I believe you left out beam weapons, we already have laser weapons in the US military.
"How'd the laser kill him? It was just a *light* hit!"
We can thank Miguel Alcubierre for proving #1 possible.
Artificial gravity?
Transparent Aluminum ?