Comparison and evolution graphics of the characters in Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and Tekken 7 (side by side) All the game captures, editing, thumbnail were done by me.
Tag 2 faces, Tag 2 hairs, Tag 2 body-varaiations and Tag 2's attention to detail was and is amazing to this day. The characters faces even had certain wrinkles when making certain facial expressions! Some girls even had cheek dimples in Tag 2!
@@fasoooli2751 What rlly? i currently Tag 2 is my number 2 favorite spot. Number one spot is tekken 3. Guess that i dont play tekken series must except those two tekken.
Everyone in TTT2 looks fiercely angry! I can't tell which one I like better though...I appreciated the "realistic" facial feature approach in TTT2 though. I was a little offput in T7 (in the beginning) when they made the girls look more cutesy. (I particularly like Asuka in TTT2 more than T7.)
Well to be honest i like girl design in T7 its not big problem when they decide to make it more cute, maybe they want make people that never played tekken would love to play it cause the cute girl
The only thing 7 did better than 6 and Tag 2 aesthetic wise was update the characters main default skins. Most of the roster had been wearing the same clothes since Tekken 5. (Except for law and king who only have recolors)
Not always a good thing imo. Asuka's T5 look is iconic with that blue halter top and her unzipped one piece. T7 looks like someone's costume customisation.
"better than t6" t6 compensated it by having the best costumisation variety and unique outfits that are still better than t7 ones tag 2 also had costume decals
Same thoughts as I did with the T6 comparison: T7 overall looks better, but Tag 2 has much better attention to detail. Although here the gap is far smaller because Tag 2 still looks pretty good. A few odd faces aside, it still looks great, esp for a PS3 game
I will say that the techniques Tag 2 used to model hair is a bit better and the way it's done in T7 is a sign that the engine was new to them at the time. Only exceptions are some like the Mishimas (but they're really close to Tag 2's in terms of quality) and Anna (Anna's hair never looked right till T7, strangely enough)
@@AJReyes7039 Yeah Lili's hair looks better in Tag 2, but T7 gave it bang physics, which I like. I think for T8, it'd be best to balance out both the stuff T7 and Tag 2 did in terms of these models, would be a good middle ground
@@Lexicon865 Agree, it's fascinating that some old games hairs still looks fine or even better, speaking of hairs, the custom hair in T7 is like planes texture and looks noticably weird especially when using grey/light colors. Noctis in T7 is using strands hair like makes noticable shimmering if using lower resolution also makes hairs looks inconsistent when meeting tekken characters (maybe the character is likely imported from ffxv game model with detailed hair, idk). Other games at the time T7 release also has many weird looking hairs, example with same engine, Street Fighter V sculpted hair is very rigid and really looks off in motion compares to sf4 that surprisingly still looks fine and more dynamic. Also has inconsistent design for example ken strange simple shaped "banana" looking hair compares to G detailed strands beard really puts me off.
Tag 2's lighting does look more accurate to irl lighting. Tekken 7 does looks alright but Tag 2 wins obviously. The characters looked amazing in Tag 2!
At 1st I thought I would come out of this video with a definitive answer, but after some Tag 2 models look better than the T7 ones and vice versa, But you mostly see the T7 models beating out the tag 2 models in 2 places - the T7 models look better usually when it's the characters that were added later on, and the other area is clothing and body modeling. But Tag 2 models usually beat the T7 models when it comes to facial models/facial expressions and natural-looking skin(with a few characters), Because when you compare Lili from Tag 2 to her T7 counterpart, it looks like she's had a hangover in T7! her facial model is rough in T7.
What i really like in T7, the character’s eyes actually focus towards the target instead of just the head tracking, the best example was Alisa, Zafina and Lars which have them looking at their sides almost. I’ve always wanted an upclose look on that for fighting games, this really is a good video. Also Yoshi’s TTT2 armor is better
The biggest elephant in the room in the T7 models is the hair. It just doesn't blend into the model. Like at all. It's like they made the base models bald first, and then just slid on a wig that looks like their hairstyle. Also, the body types for most of the characters got heavily homogenized. The only things that T7 did better IMO is the bears having actual fur now, instead of it just being a texture (and because of that, their models are quite heavy on the FPS), Marshall's scars making a comeback (even though he's way too buff for what he's supposed to represent), Miguel's face, and some texture work (especially Marduk's ink, they actually look like tattoos now, instead of looking like body paint). Devil Jin's face in T7 is way too soft, and his white eyes are not even that visible anymore (they really popped off in T5 or even had a slightly glowy appearance in T6). Also, Eddy has been prettified too much. His Tag 2 facial model looks great, and actually looks like a dark skinned dude. In T7 he looks like a white guy that has been heavily tanned. Which is a shame, since his T7 outfit is so damn good.
I played some TTT2 recently and can’t help but feel that it looks way better than Tekken 7 and the selection of generic outfit sets was better too. Not to mention the hair customization system.
Tag 2 was just peak Tekken. A lot of fans are now understanding this. I really wish they would port it to steam. Detail was peak. Characters could get dirty, wet, and even sweat depending on the stage. It was CRAZY. Thats how bamco moved before unreal engine. Tekken 8 about to surpass it though
Considering TTT2 is a PS3 game and T7 is a PS4 game, i’d argue T7 is rather unimpressive. It doesn’t necessarily look much better than a game that came out a whole generation before it.
Like all recent fg sequels released on the PS4 gen. Except only MK11 and GGS, none of them look like solid next gen updates that are making good use of the new tech and hardware. Not that they look bad (with very few exceptions), it's just that they are poor next gen updates - like compared to TK5 to TK6 or MKA to MK9.
That's because Tekken 7 is a PS4 game with PS3 polycount for pretty much everything on the screen. Character models has around 35000 triangles in them on average when even stuff like Dead or Alive 5(a PS3 game!) pushed over 100000 triangles per fighter with no slowdowns. Same for stages, we've got a PS4 game with angular pillars, angular arches, angular tree trunks, ect. Yes, lighting, materials, draw distance and number of objects on the scene is very PS4-like in Tekken 7, but embarrassingly low polycounts simply does not let it's graphics look noticeably better than Tekken Tag Tournament 2 when you compare their character models directly like in this video. Apparently, Namco was so pissed off by TTT2 low sales figures that Tekken 7's budget was cut in half as result of that and devs had no other choice, but to preserve PS3 polycount for their brand new PS4 game since it's actually cheaper, easier and faster to make new 3d models when they have lower number of polygons compare to what is acceptable at the time.
Agree, the bodies look more realistic in TT2 especially the females look all the same and are to slim with too long legs in T7. T6 and TT2 had more realistic character bodies
Tekken tag 2 overall looks better to me only some things look better in tekken 7 for certain characters. Some of the girls faces look better but the hair is weird in T7. Xiaoyu looks great in this game her best look imo, wasn't really attracted to her but now I am. Some of guys bodies look better but some downgraded for example Jin, his face looks less Japanese and less shredded. In tt2 his face looked better and his body was a godlike body I want to have. Devil Jin form looked a lot better in tt2 too. The best body upgrades looks like both Kings and Feng
T7 has better textures, such as Kazuya's scars and the like, but I can't get over some of these models. Their arms are waaaaay too big and Hwoarang is the worst offender for this. It's been said before but at least T6/TTT2 had some variation with how the bodies look, T7 just looks like copy/paste for every single character. Also not a fan of how some of the female characters have been 'dolled' up, TTT2 faces just have more personality for me
I think they should cut down on the muscle of the male characters and make them look a bit more realistic imo the massive muscles just feels a bit much lmao
ALSO I'm not saying for all characters but for the characters whose fighting style doesn't need crazy massive muscles like obviously king, marduk, Paul, etc would need those for their style but the only insanely different male body model is like Lee. Besides that everyone else is pretty similar
@@gabrielsmith2460 That's what happens in Tekken Tag 2 to be honest. Lei is actually skinny compared to other characters. In Tekken 7 he's way more muscular like all characters. I feel like in Tekken 7 they made the same body model to every male character and only adjusted to their heights. Even for Marduk, he wasn't that buffed since Tekken 5 and everyone were quite exaggerated due to the old screen compatibility at the time. Again, same for Female characters they all looked different in Tekken Tag 2 but not in Tekken 7 where they all look the same. Edit: some grammar.
Yup, been saying this since a while, not all males tho but some males, it make sens that Feng is very muscules but character like Hwoarang shouldn't, and Law has gone too fat in the last games, they need to bring him back the body type of T4.
@@dzastin0713 as a modder I can say it seems that all the characters models basically share the same base. Even all there textures are interchangeable with little to no issues. Even between male and female characters. They’re all somewhat different though so they’re not literally identical.
Why they're both worth getting: TTT2 on wii u lets you play exclusive Nintendo costumes and Mushroom battles. Tekken 7 has new characters of course, especially the guest star ones, like Akuma and Noctis.
Biggest difference are definitely the eyes. TT2 has more eye detail compared to T7. Plus all the character models in T7 have been buffed up. I mean even Xiaoyu is more muscular against her TT2 self.
I've always felt T7 played it waayy too safe with their female bodytypes, I thought they were too dainty. But holy hell, even the smaller characters like Xiaoyu and Julia are MASSIVELY jacked :D It could be fun to make a completely normal person in Tekken for reference just to see how monstrous the Tekken lineup looks like compared to it !
God the way I cannot figure out what OST that is playing in the BG but its fire! Watching this comparison is super fun, thx for this hard work the editing for these is amazing!
I've always thought that Jin, Kazuya and DJ looked so much better in TTT2 especially DJ cause he looks far more demonic and evil plus he has his white eyes
Yekken 7 is just to better than tekken tag you don't know what wat better is and tekken 8 will come out next year foor the nexgen eland not for old gen
To explain, TTT2 was a lot more realistic due to the developers having more trust and money to work off of. Since TTT2 flopped, the developers had less money and trust to work off of because the franchise could’ve flopped at any second. And now here we are, Tekken 7 is one the highest bought tekkens if not the highest bought, so we will finally have some money and a lot of trust to work off of for tekken 8 😇
Fighting stances of some characters were better in 6 and Tag 2 like Asuka and Lili(hand postures) then males have their neck straight up and not have swollen backs(Bryan, Paul, etc)
It's unfortunately very obvious that all the Tekken 7 vanilla characters had their models just torn from TTT2 and thrown into Tekken 7's engine with minimal updates to the baseline texture and modelling areas
Tekken 7 was made on a tight deadline with a budget of like, a dollar, so I’m not surprised. After 7 sold so well, 8 is looking to have a proper budget.
Most of the characters in Tekken tag tournament 2 have angry looking faces. While Tekken 7 has moderate looking faces. Devil Jin had fangs in TTT2. Kuma and Panda's fur were tonned down in Tag 2. As a whole, it is a great comparison video.
Actually thanks for this tekken graphics comparison it does makes sense to people what graphics does feels like on the actual game and the model features comparisons are wonderful i hope the next version do a more or kinda realistic graphic shaders and model *As they can* because it helps alot more to see what players think about the game version and how would they think,observe and discuss even the little or big details that makes the game more good in future :D
The only characters who look better in Tekken 7 are the bears. Tekken 7 has higher res textures but overall Tag 2 has more detailed models and way more variety. All the female faces look the same in Tekken 7. Characters like Devil Jin are such a downgrade in Tekken 7.
I agree with the bears such as the more detailed fur. Hopefully my favorite boxing kangaroo Roger Jr gets the same treatment if he returns in Tekken 8 (fingers crossed).
I'd say they improved and declined in certain aspects. Things like fur, feathers, and muscles are more nuanced, as well as certain clothing textures. The faces while having toned down expressions, everyone looks calmer, some of their features like eye shape and brow size don't match. The hair doesn't blend with the model as well in t7 either, in tekken 6 they looked like wigs, but tt2 the hair looked like a part of their body, t7 while the hair is more detailed doesn't look as much like a part of them.
Namco really needs to up their game in the graphics department. They haven't given Tekken or Soulcalibur a remodeling since the PS3 era. Tekken 8/Soul 7 better have model detail that exceeds the PS3 Jin demo and face animation at least on par with what we see in MK. Realistic breathing is a must going forward, so tired of exaggerated shoulder movement to give the illusion. I'm also tired of the static models, we need fleshy physics everywhere. I want to see minor deformations on impacts and at least the end of ridiculous clipping of costumes. Namco's fighting games were once on the bleeding edge of video game graphics, now they are literally over decades behind the current state of the art.
I don’t really care about it being overly realistic. That approach kind of killed MK for me trying to be like that. Tekken doesn’t really need it. They do need to actually at make their new models at least look as good as their models on PS3 though. Given how nice some of the DLC characters look I’m hoping they’ve adjusted enough to unreal engine nowadays to do better for T8 though
@@Liqhtmare Tekken 8 has not disappointed yet. Especially for an early alpha demo. (one could nitpick at the dust looking like flat texture waves and not exactly volumetric or the clothes don't quite have the right weight to them, fleshy physics seem quite selective, but again, total nitpicking) It's good to see Namco bringing their A game here. So yes, so far, happy.
i like how some of the characters have pads on their elbows and knees, its mostly because the elbows and knees have a stringy muscle that is tender and one good blow to the elbow or knee could injure you for afew minutes so it makes sense to have your elbows and knees covered. have you ever hit your elbow or knee? it hurts.
Indeed they both hurt A LOT! (The "funny bone" near the elbow, on the inside and the patella or the knee cap) That's why in self-defense for irl survival and not for tourneys which has rules, a martial artist targets highly, vulnerable areas such as the elbow (to break from a full-force blow to it or from a joint lock fully applied that forces the elbow past its natural range of motion, resulting in a devastating break. For the knee, a full- force kick directly to the knee cap straight ahead or to the inner part of the knee or behind the knee. The fight is over in an instant!) That's why having played Tekken over the years and other, fighting games, I could never take it seriously enough where characters like Tekken's AK are fully-armoured and yet taking damage from someone punching or kicking them with exposed hands and/or bare feet or tennis shoes lol. Even Tekken 8 still has characters that will have their limbs broken, even their back, and they still get right back up smh. Fighting games will never be bold enough to evoke that level of realism which would be impressive.
@@smartie354 whats funny is how a hard blow is worst than a cut, i got drunk and fell and cut my leg but that was not as bad as hitting it on something.
@@FreeAimDog Yep I think the pain level difference is always gonna be more severe with smashing a bone - definitely, breaking it (or a fracture) vs a cut. The exception being a deep laceration or puncture-type wound. Although the skin is the body's largest organ, I think a bone hurts most because your skeletal system immediately receives the impact with no other barrier to absorb the blow. At least with a cut, it has to go through layers of muscle, tissue and nerves, depending on how deep. Just my non-medical, layman summary lol.
What song did you use for this comparison video? Great video by the way, didn't really look at the comparisons too much but everyone got a bigger upgrade but also got greasier 😅
Tekken 7 looks visually better, but Tekken Tag Tournament 2 is still a much more fun game for me, plus the characters overall just have much better personalities overall as well.
The one thing I can say that T7 has that is better then TT2 is the characters eyes locking onto the opponent instead of them just looking straight ahead no matter where their head moved. Other then that, TT2 was the better one in visual aspect
In my opinion TTT2 Graphics are very similar to IRL(In Real Life) and more accurate lightening and shadows on the model characters, kinda soft light and more brighter but not that much, the models are good and matched the background shaders more than Tekken7, on or in? Tekken7 the models are very detailed+ than TTT2 and classic but not matched the graphics to the models with the glossy lightening and incorrected shadows on some characters legs and texture materials, both are good but ill prefer the TTT2 Graphics more because it gives the game more color and realism to the game and it doesn't feel like the most new pc game graphics its just focusing the feeling base on their stages that makes it more realistic to me and others :)
Noticing that with alot of the male character stances from TTT2 to T7, the heads from the front are tilted as opposed to just sitting up straight (Marduk, Kazuya and Paul being good examples). There also appears to be subtle stance adjustments, either with the leg bends or the rearward feet being rotated slightly more outward. Two big changes that caught my attention are Lei Wulong's stance animation being shortened up and from the front, Miguel's face now is fixated on his opponent throughout his animation as opposed to just going all the way back. Female characters in TTT2 just look rough to me, always felt that way back then (with Tekken Revolution only reaffirming that) and all this comparison has done is reaffirm that even more so. Some might say that they've been "Dolled up" in either TR or T7 but I disagree, They look properly softer.
Yoooo!!! you really cannot deny nor unsee the comparison jeez, how is it like a game that runs in a previous gen console is so much better than the current gen is still baffles me
I love classic Tekken on the PlayStation 1 and this was great. I wasn't into Tekken 7 hopefully we get Tekken 8 with even cooler dlc characters. Cool video. ^_^
A lot of characters look better in Tag 2 (most likely due to the low budget Tekken 7 had), but I do prefer the look a lot of characters have in Tekken 7. They're usually DLC characters, which were obviously made with a slightly higher budget in mind due to the success of the DLC model
Ling design in Tekken tag 1 in which she originally had brown hair and Tag 2 are best designs yet. I hope Tekken take heavy inspiration from rhe upcoming show and redesign both Kazuya and Jin's bodies and make them identical to that, because Jin body in 7 looks abnormal and looks vastly bigger than his father, and the guide and official website states Kazuya is actually bigger than his son weight, physique, and height wise. He suppose to look menacing and the upcoming show accurately portrays that very well.
The Tekken7 hairs looks actually kinda good on some characters more likely with anna or other male characters but it doesn't match too much on some characters too, the lighting is very glossy like they use some hair gel and it doesn't have a little hair strands unlikely on TTT2 like lili rochefort her hair there is just modeled well with little strands, on Tekken7 it feels like she does wear some wig or used some hair gel
The hair looks better in Tekken Tag 2. It moves better in most cases in Tekken 7, but it definitely looks better in Tekken Tag 2 than it does in Tekken 7 in all cases except for Kuma and Panda.
Animations and physics are better in Tekken 7 (specially the clothing), but the faces, hair and lighting looks more realistic in Tekken Tag 2, they kinda anime-fied the characters in Tekken 7, which of course makes them look less realistic, however considering the nature of the games I can see why it makes sense to take this approach
What I find it interesting is when it comes to side view their a bit identical but on the front view has a lot of change. Tekken torements they a straight forward t-pose while tekken 7 they have a huge fighting pose and overexactratted a bit.
They focused more on DLC characters I noticed. They all look much better than the base roster characters in T7. Even the redesigns are too good (Anna, Armor King and Zafina) definitely top 3.
Yeah I dunno. TTT2 is excellent for a PS3 game but there’s so many other factors involved with T7 that naturally make it look better and “more realistic” as some people keep saying; lighting and textures for instance. In a few areas it can ruin the look of the hair in T7 but overall I think it ends up looking better by a large margin as skin isn’t so reflective and all that.
Tekken 7 always looked like graphically enhanced PS2 models minus the sort of realistic, almost uncanny style T6 had with several of its characters. Tag 2, although not perfect looking was like a balanced blend of both and still looks impressive.
I like most of the male models more in T7, but most of the female models I like more in their TT2 versions. It really goes back and forth though like with kazuya, I think kazuya looks better in TT2 but with steve for example I like his T7 version more. Same with the females, I think lili looks way better in her TT2 version and with anna, I think she looks better in T7 compared to TT2
yeah it's crazy just how often it goes back and forth considering they are games two entire console generations apart. some chars are butchered in T7 (Lili) and others look outright better.
Tag 2 faces, Tag 2 hairs, Tag 2 body-varaiations and Tag 2's attention to detail was and is amazing to this day. The characters faces even had certain wrinkles when making certain facial expressions!
Some girls even had cheek dimples in Tag 2!
The characters even sweat when they are fighting and get dirty when they fall.
Still not over the overall down grade of characters details and looks in T7 😒
you can tell they had passion making this game like t4
but yet all that budget was for nothing and the gameplay almost killed the series
@@fasoooli2751 What rlly? i currently Tag 2 is my number 2 favorite spot. Number one spot is tekken 3.
Guess that i dont play tekken series must except those two tekken.
@Tekken Theatre Tag 2 should have been released a year later tbh.
Omg. Lili and Xiayou got cheek dimples in Tag 2!
Tag 2 is ahead of its time
I see no dimples. Sorry
Everyone in TTT2 looks fiercely angry! I can't tell which one I like better though...I appreciated the "realistic" facial feature approach in TTT2 though. I was a little offput in T7 (in the beginning) when they made the girls look more cutesy. (I particularly like Asuka in TTT2 more than T7.)
You should see Tekken 6 Asuka
Well They Should Be Angry Because They're fighting at the moment
Well to be honest i like girl design in T7 its not big problem when they decide to make it more cute, maybe they want make people that never played tekken would love to play it cause the cute girl
I'm ok with Alisa being more cutesy though, since she's technically a doll anyway.
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i still feel like everyone in tekken tag 2 looked better, the graphics and everything are just way more realistic
Exactly, I agree with you! 👍🏻
@@senyuki2185 Yeah, I'm not a fan of the noses in Tekken 7...
I mostly agree except I think the face modelling on T7 DLC Characters looks better than Vanilla & TTT2’s
I think of the havok and unreal engine.
I have to say Lee looks good in Tag 2 and 7.
The only thing 7 did better than 6 and Tag 2 aesthetic wise was update the characters main default skins. Most of the roster had been wearing the same clothes since Tekken 5. (Except for law and king who only have recolors)
Not always a good thing imo. Asuka's T5 look is iconic with that blue halter top and her unzipped one piece. T7 looks like someone's costume customisation.
"better than t6" t6 compensated it by having the best costumisation variety and unique outfits
that are still better than t7 ones
tag 2 also had costume decals
Yeah but since you could customise all outfits it was a non-issue
Not to mention.. Actually good different hairs.
@@fasoooli2751the variety you speak of is mostly recolored clothes because there was no color wheel..
5:29 back when Lili had the good hair
She looked European but they made her asian for no reason
Same thoughts as I did with the T6 comparison: T7 overall looks better, but Tag 2 has much better attention to detail. Although here the gap is far smaller because Tag 2 still looks pretty good. A few odd faces aside, it still looks great, esp for a PS3 game
I will say that the techniques Tag 2 used to model hair is a bit better and the way it's done in T7 is a sign that the engine was new to them at the time. Only exceptions are some like the Mishimas (but they're really close to Tag 2's in terms of quality) and Anna (Anna's hair never looked right till T7, strangely enough)
@@Lexicon865 yahh, like Lili's hair
@@AJReyes7039 Yeah Lili's hair looks better in Tag 2, but T7 gave it bang physics, which I like. I think for T8, it'd be best to balance out both the stuff T7 and Tag 2 did in terms of these models, would be a good middle ground
God I miss playing this game since not owning a PS3 anymore 😔
@@Lexicon865 Agree, it's fascinating that some old games hairs still looks fine or even better, speaking of hairs, the custom hair in T7 is like planes texture and looks noticably weird especially when using grey/light colors. Noctis in T7 is using strands hair like makes noticable shimmering if using lower resolution also makes hairs looks inconsistent when meeting tekken characters (maybe the character is likely imported from ffxv game model with detailed hair, idk). Other games at the time T7 release also has many weird looking hairs, example with same engine, Street Fighter V sculpted hair is very rigid and really looks off in motion compares to sf4 that surprisingly still looks fine and more dynamic. Also has inconsistent design for example ken strange simple shaped "banana" looking hair compares to G detailed strands beard really puts me off.
Tag 2's lighting does look more accurate to irl lighting. Tekken 7 does looks alright but Tag 2 wins obviously. The characters looked amazing in Tag 2!
Tekken 7 was made with a tight budget, so it’s kinda obvious why the characters there don’t look much better than TT2 ones
Yeah he's just putting all the "Tekken Tag 2 stuff in lighted areas and "Tekken 7 in darker stages 😊
At 1st I thought I would come out of this video with a definitive answer, but after some Tag 2 models look better than the T7 ones and vice versa, But you mostly see the T7 models beating out the tag 2 models in 2 places - the T7 models look better usually when it's the characters that were added later on, and the other area is clothing and body modeling.
But Tag 2 models usually beat the T7 models when it comes to facial models/facial expressions and natural-looking skin(with a few characters), Because when you compare Lili from Tag 2 to her T7 counterpart, it looks like she's had a hangover in T7! her facial model is rough in T7.
I agree with you
Kazuya looks better in T7 but that’s about it.
What i really like in T7, the character’s eyes actually focus towards the target instead of just the head tracking, the best example was Alisa, Zafina and Lars which have them looking at their sides almost. I’ve always wanted an upclose look on that for fighting games, this really is a good video. Also Yoshi’s TTT2 armor is better
The biggest elephant in the room in the T7 models is the hair. It just doesn't blend into the model. Like at all. It's like they made the base models bald first, and then just slid on a wig that looks like their hairstyle. Also, the body types for most of the characters got heavily homogenized. The only things that T7 did better IMO is the bears having actual fur now, instead of it just being a texture (and because of that, their models are quite heavy on the FPS), Marshall's scars making a comeback (even though he's way too buff for what he's supposed to represent), Miguel's face, and some texture work (especially Marduk's ink, they actually look like tattoos now, instead of looking like body paint). Devil Jin's face in T7 is way too soft, and his white eyes are not even that visible anymore (they really popped off in T5 or even had a slightly glowy appearance in T6). Also, Eddy has been prettified too much. His Tag 2 facial model looks great, and actually looks like a dark skinned dude. In T7 he looks like a white guy that has been heavily tanned. Which is a shame, since his T7 outfit is so damn good.
Lili looks like a Pokémon in T7
that wig slid on bald headed models analogy killed me LMAO so acurate!
@@worldof2ndfluteclarinet353 Lili looked European and they made her asian in t7 for no reason
I played some TTT2 recently and can’t help but feel that it looks way better than Tekken 7 and the selection of generic outfit sets was better too. Not to mention the hair customization system.
Let's not forget the better color editor TTT2 had as well, you simply CANNOT make the color Orange on Tekken 7.
@@Negativedemon98 yeah I hate that
Tag 2 was just peak Tekken. A lot of fans are now understanding this. I really wish they would port it to steam. Detail was peak. Characters could get dirty, wet, and even sweat depending on the stage. It was CRAZY. Thats how bamco moved before unreal engine. Tekken 8 about to surpass it though
Considering TTT2 is a PS3 game and T7 is a PS4 game, i’d argue T7 is rather unimpressive. It doesn’t necessarily look much better than a game that came out a whole generation before it.
Like all recent fg sequels released on the PS4 gen. Except only MK11 and GGS, none of them look like solid next gen updates that are making good use of the new tech and hardware. Not that they look bad (with very few exceptions), it's just that they are poor next gen updates - like compared to TK5 to TK6 or MKA to MK9.
That's because Tekken 7 is a PS4 game with PS3 polycount for pretty much everything on the screen. Character models has around 35000 triangles in them on average when even stuff like Dead or Alive 5(a PS3 game!) pushed over 100000 triangles per fighter with no slowdowns. Same for stages, we've got a PS4 game with angular pillars, angular arches, angular tree trunks, ect. Yes, lighting, materials, draw distance and number of objects on the scene is very PS4-like in Tekken 7, but embarrassingly low polycounts simply does not let it's graphics look noticeably better than Tekken Tag Tournament 2 when you compare their character models directly like in this video.
Apparently, Namco was so pissed off by TTT2 low sales figures that Tekken 7's budget was cut in half as result of that and devs had no other choice, but to preserve PS3 polycount for their brand new PS4 game since it's actually cheaper, easier and faster to make new 3d models when they have lower number of polygons compare to what is acceptable at the time.
@@dastanbastan9621 it did come out in 2014 tbf, which isn't all that next gen
T 7 has way better graphics and sprites
@@justin343wh Nope.
the best tekken i ever play is tag 2. way back then we dont have to pay just to unlock any characters PSN dlc or new stadium etc.
TTT2 is still my favorite in terms of character models
Agree, the bodies look more realistic in TT2 especially the females look all the same and are to slim with too long legs in T7. T6 and TT2 had more realistic character bodies
Tekken tag 2 overall looks better to me only some things look better in tekken 7 for certain characters. Some of the girls faces look better but the hair is weird in T7. Xiaoyu looks great in this game her best look imo, wasn't really attracted to her but now I am. Some of guys bodies look better but some downgraded for example Jin, his face looks less Japanese and less shredded. In tt2 his face looked better and his body was a godlike body I want to have. Devil Jin form looked a lot better in tt2 too. The best body upgrades looks like both Kings and Feng
The color really changes everything. T7 everyone looks like some kind of action figure
Definitely tag 2 characters looks tougher than T7
T7 has better textures, such as Kazuya's scars and the like, but I can't get over some of these models. Their arms are waaaaay too big and Hwoarang is the worst offender for this.
It's been said before but at least T6/TTT2 had some variation with how the bodies look, T7 just looks like copy/paste for every single character.
Also not a fan of how some of the female characters have been 'dolled' up, TTT2 faces just have more personality for me
Sadly only the DLC characters got proper proportions
Because they were copy pasted. All the Vanilla characters share the same 4 body models, the only differences are skin tone, scars and the heads.
I think they should cut down on the muscle of the male characters and make them look a bit more realistic imo the massive muscles just feels a bit much lmao
ALSO I'm not saying for all characters but for the characters whose fighting style doesn't need crazy massive muscles like obviously king, marduk, Paul, etc would need those for their style but the only insanely different male body model is like Lee. Besides that everyone else is pretty similar
@@gabrielsmith2460 That's what happens in Tekken Tag 2 to be honest. Lei is actually skinny compared to other characters.
In Tekken 7 he's way more muscular like all characters. I feel like in Tekken 7 they made the same body model to every male character and only adjusted to their heights. Even for Marduk, he wasn't that buffed since Tekken 5 and everyone were quite exaggerated due to the old screen compatibility at the time.
Again, same for Female characters they all looked different in Tekken Tag 2 but not in Tekken 7 where they all look the same.
Edit: some grammar.
Yup, been saying this since a while, not all males tho but some males, it make sens that Feng is very muscules but character like Hwoarang shouldn't, and Law has gone too fat in the last games, they need to bring him back the body type of T4.
@@dzastin0713 as a modder I can say it seems that all the characters models basically share the same base. Even all there textures are interchangeable with little to no issues. Even between male and female characters.
They’re all somewhat different though so they’re not literally identical.
Tekken tag 2 looks way more realistic.
Right? Some T7 faces lack of detail makes them look more unrealistic. Its sad.
True, some details look more realistic in Tag 2
In T7, some character become more thicc than before
@@jhonnyn5748 didn't know Monokuma plays Tekken
Ikr? I also noticed the characters facial expressions in TTT2 were THE BEST among all the Tekken series
5:11 Xiaoyu got buffed 💪💪💪😳😳😳
Beautiful🙏🙏
Why they're both worth getting: TTT2 on wii u lets you play exclusive Nintendo costumes and Mushroom battles. Tekken 7 has new characters of course, especially the guest star ones, like Akuma and Noctis.
They did justice to zafina in t7 :D
Biggest difference are definitely the eyes. TT2 has more eye detail compared to T7. Plus all the character models in T7 have been buffed up. I mean even Xiaoyu is more muscular against her TT2 self.
I've always felt T7 played it waayy too safe with their female bodytypes, I thought they were too dainty.
But holy hell, even the smaller characters like Xiaoyu and Julia are MASSIVELY jacked :D
It could be fun to make a completely normal person in Tekken for reference just to see how monstrous the Tekken lineup looks like compared to it !
@@SnakeInTheRain yeah I was noticing that when I went to customize Hwo the other day after not playing TTT2 for a while.
Xiaoyu get the biggest glow up
Nah. She went from cute girl, to plastic anime doll.
God the way I cannot figure out what OST that is playing in the BG but its fire!
Watching this comparison is super fun, thx for this hard work the editing for these is amazing!
I've always thought that Jin, Kazuya and DJ looked so much better in TTT2 especially DJ cause he looks far more demonic and evil plus he has his white eyes
DJ in T7 looks like some random dude cosplaying as satan
Haha not talking on dragunov? He looked more from Transylvania in the previous game
@@lussurio2325 haha true
TTT2 faces looks so much better than the ones in T7
Yekken 7 is just to better than tekken tag you don't know what wat better is and tekken 8 will come out next year foor the nexgen eland not for old gen
@@hasannuhanovic1025 okay? cool opinion bro
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Steve: 😠 🙂
the faces and the hairs of tekken tag 2 on tekken 7 would've completed the game for me
To explain, TTT2 was a lot more realistic due to the developers having more trust and money to work off of. Since TTT2 flopped, the developers had less money and trust to work off of because the franchise could’ve flopped at any second. And now here we are, Tekken 7 is one the highest bought tekkens if not the highest bought, so we will finally have some money and a lot of trust to work off of for tekken 8 😇
4:38 Ling Xiaoyu 💯
Fighting stances of some characters were better in 6 and Tag 2 like Asuka and Lili(hand postures) then males have their neck straight up and not have swollen backs(Bryan, Paul, etc)
tekken 7 look good but TTT2 look 80% realistic and so much details
Everyone got greasy hair in T7
Once again, Tag 2 outsold!
Bamco needs to fire whoever modeled the faces in Tekken 7.
7 has better faces
It's unfortunately very obvious that all the Tekken 7 vanilla characters had their models just torn from TTT2 and thrown into Tekken 7's engine with minimal updates to the baseline texture and modelling areas
Tekken 7 was made on a tight deadline with a budget of like, a dollar, so I’m not surprised. After 7 sold so well, 8 is looking to have a proper budget.
Most of the characters in Tekken tag tournament 2 have angry looking faces. While Tekken 7 has moderate looking faces. Devil Jin had fangs in TTT2. Kuma and Panda's fur were tonned down in Tag 2. As a whole, it is a great comparison video.
The comparison would be better if you choose the same outfits for some characters.
Most of the tekken tag 2 models look miles better than the tekken 7 models
Actually thanks for this tekken graphics comparison it does makes sense to people what graphics does feels like on the actual game and the model features comparisons are wonderful i hope the next version do a more or kinda realistic graphic shaders and model *As they can* because it helps alot more to see what players think about the game version and how would they think,observe and discuss even the little or big details that makes the game more good in future :D
The only characters who look better in Tekken 7 are the bears. Tekken 7 has higher res textures but overall Tag 2 has more detailed models and way more variety. All the female faces look the same in Tekken 7. Characters like Devil Jin are such a downgrade in Tekken 7.
Devil Jin just looks like Jin with the wings and horns. It’s boring
I agree with the bears such as the more detailed fur. Hopefully my favorite boxing kangaroo Roger Jr gets the same treatment if he returns in Tekken 8 (fingers crossed).
@@TREVORVADER for real, i liked the pale and different size devil jin had, it made him more than a alter ego, he was a fully different character.
nah i would say also the dlc characters
kiurt cobaindsn we like the same videos!!! thank god you're still alive and just faked ur d3.4th!!!!!!11!3!/! 🫶
4:49 Xiaoyu has been lifting, look at them arms
I'd say they improved and declined in certain aspects.
Things like fur, feathers, and muscles are more nuanced, as well as certain clothing textures.
The faces while having toned down expressions, everyone looks calmer, some of their features like eye shape and brow size don't match.
The hair doesn't blend with the model as well in t7 either, in tekken 6 they looked like wigs, but tt2 the hair looked like a part of their body, t7 while the hair is more detailed doesn't look as much like a part of them.
Jack just looks Bad ass in Tekken tag 😱
Namco really needs to up their game in the graphics department. They haven't given Tekken or Soulcalibur a remodeling since the PS3 era. Tekken 8/Soul 7 better have model detail that exceeds the PS3 Jin demo and face animation at least on par with what we see in MK. Realistic breathing is a must going forward, so tired of exaggerated shoulder movement to give the illusion. I'm also tired of the static models, we need fleshy physics everywhere. I want to see minor deformations on impacts and at least the end of ridiculous clipping of costumes.
Namco's fighting games were once on the bleeding edge of video game graphics, now they are literally over decades behind the current state of the art.
I don’t really care about it being overly realistic. That approach kind of killed MK for me trying to be like that. Tekken doesn’t really need it.
They do need to actually at make their new models at least look as good as their models on PS3 though. Given how nice some of the DLC characters look I’m hoping they’ve adjusted enough to unreal engine nowadays to do better for T8 though
You guys happy about the new Jin model?
Are you happy now?
@@Liqhtmare Tekken 8 has not disappointed yet. Especially for an early alpha demo. (one could nitpick at the dust looking like flat texture waves and not exactly volumetric or the clothes don't quite have the right weight to them, fleshy physics seem quite selective, but again, total nitpicking) It's good to see Namco bringing their A game here. So yes, so far, happy.
i like how some of the characters have pads on their elbows and knees, its mostly because the elbows and knees have a stringy muscle that is tender and one good blow to the elbow or knee could injure you for afew minutes so it makes sense to have your elbows and knees covered. have you ever hit your elbow or knee? it hurts.
Indeed they both hurt A LOT! (The "funny bone" near the elbow, on the inside and the patella or the knee cap) That's why in self-defense for irl survival and not for tourneys which has rules, a martial artist targets highly, vulnerable areas such as the elbow (to break from a full-force blow to it or from a joint lock fully applied that forces the elbow past its natural range of motion, resulting in a devastating break. For the knee, a full- force kick directly to the knee cap straight ahead or to the inner part of the knee or behind the knee. The fight is over in an instant!)
That's why having played Tekken over the years and other, fighting games, I could never take it seriously enough where characters like Tekken's AK are fully-armoured and yet taking damage from someone punching or kicking them with exposed hands and/or bare feet or tennis shoes lol. Even Tekken 8 still has characters that will have their limbs broken, even their back, and they still get right back up smh. Fighting games will never be bold enough to evoke that level of realism which would be impressive.
@@smartie354 whats funny is how a hard blow is worst than a cut, i got drunk and fell and cut my leg but that was not as bad as hitting it on something.
@@FreeAimDog
Yep I think the pain level difference is always gonna be more severe with smashing a bone - definitely, breaking it (or a fracture) vs a cut. The exception being a deep laceration or puncture-type wound. Although the skin is the body's largest organ, I think a bone hurts most because your skeletal system immediately receives the impact with no other barrier to absorb the blow. At least with a cut, it has to go through layers of muscle, tissue and nerves, depending on how deep.
Just my non-medical, layman summary lol.
The hair looks way better in Tag 2, T7 looks pretty anime (if that makes sense) in the face models
I miss Xiaoyou’s orange ring hair ties, they were her most iconic accessory, but the flower change is alright with me nonetheless.
Apparently she did originally have orange bangles in Tekken 7 (from her outfit wiki page)
What song did you use for this comparison video? Great video by the way, didn't really look at the comparisons too much but everyone got a bigger upgrade but also got greasier 😅
The song is a soundtrack from Tekken 7
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I'm glad you like the video. The background music is Jungle Outpost from Tekken 7
Tekken 7 looks visually better, but Tekken Tag Tournament 2 is still a much more fun game for me, plus the characters overall just have much better personalities overall as well.
The one thing I can say that T7 has that is better then TT2 is the characters eyes locking onto the opponent instead of them just looking straight ahead no matter where their head moved. Other then that, TT2 was the better one in visual aspect
The song at the start is jungle outpost from tekken 7 in case anyone else looked for it
Hair in TTT2 is way better than T7
Lighting makes all the difference. Plus the Unreal Engine in T7 maybe gave the devs more defining features on faces and vider bodies.
In my opinion TTT2 Graphics are very similar to IRL(In Real Life) and more accurate lightening and shadows on the model characters, kinda soft light and more brighter but not that much, the models are good and matched the background shaders more than Tekken7, on or in? Tekken7 the models are very detailed+ than TTT2 and classic but not matched the graphics to the models with the glossy lightening and incorrected shadows on some characters legs and texture materials, both are good but ill prefer the TTT2 Graphics more because it gives the game more color and realism to the game and it doesn't feel like the most new pc game graphics its just focusing the feeling base on their stages that makes it more realistic to me and others :)
Noticing that with alot of the male character stances from TTT2 to T7, the heads from the front are tilted as opposed to just sitting up straight (Marduk, Kazuya and Paul being good examples). There also appears to be subtle stance adjustments, either with the leg bends or the rearward feet being rotated slightly more outward. Two big changes that caught my attention are Lei Wulong's stance animation being shortened up and from the front, Miguel's face now is fixated on his opponent throughout his animation as opposed to just going all the way back.
Female characters in TTT2 just look rough to me, always felt that way back then (with Tekken Revolution only reaffirming that) and all this comparison has done is reaffirm that even more so. Some might say that they've been "Dolled up" in either TR or T7 but I disagree, They look properly softer.
The body hair detail on Miguel's and Marduck's bodies are so cool!
Yoooo!!! you really cannot deny nor unsee the comparison jeez, how is it like a game that runs in a previous gen console is so much better than the current gen is still baffles me
Would be awesome to somehow compare the Tekken Revolution models vs Tekken 7 models, as some TR ones are upgraded versions of TTT2 models
I love classic Tekken on the PlayStation 1 and this was great. I wasn't into Tekken 7 hopefully we get Tekken 8 with even cooler dlc characters. Cool video. ^_^
TTT2 female faces seem to have their own distinct features that make them different from each other. T7 female faces look kind of samey.
Now I know why Xiaoyu's arms felt a bit weird in T7... Look at that arm dude!!!
Meanwhile Marduk got skinner
A lot of characters look better in Tag 2 (most likely due to the low budget Tekken 7 had), but I do prefer the look a lot of characters have in Tekken 7. They're usually DLC characters, which were obviously made with a slightly higher budget in mind due to the success of the DLC model
Great video of tekken tag tournament 2 and tekken 7,thank you YOYO-DODO
Ling design in Tekken tag 1 in which she originally had brown hair and Tag 2 are best designs yet. I hope Tekken take heavy inspiration from rhe upcoming show and redesign both Kazuya and Jin's bodies and make them identical to that, because Jin body in 7 looks abnormal and looks vastly bigger than his father, and the guide and official website states Kazuya is actually bigger than his son weight, physique, and height wise. He suppose to look menacing and the upcoming show accurately portrays that very well.
14:31 lol i like how lee does that little grin after he speaks
Whats the name of the song in background? What Tekken series?💎
The Tekken7 hairs looks actually kinda good on some characters more likely with anna or other male characters but it doesn't match too much on some characters too, the lighting is very glossy like they use some hair gel and it doesn't have a little hair strands unlikely on TTT2 like lili rochefort her hair there is just modeled well with little strands, on Tekken7 it feels like she does wear some wig or used some hair gel
The hair looks better in Tekken Tag 2. It moves better in most cases in Tekken 7, but it definitely looks better in Tekken Tag 2 than it does in Tekken 7 in all cases except for Kuma and Panda.
love it
There will definitely be a graphical difference between Tekken 7 and Tekken 8
It’s like every woman in Tag 2 has the same face.
Steve, Anna, and Xiaoyu are probably the biggest Glow ups.
2:06 his scars in TTT2 was realistic than Tekken 7
Resumindo não foi um avanço muito grande entre Tekken Tag 2 e Tekken 7
até acho que o Tekken 7 deveria ter sido lançado para o PS3
Animations and physics are better in Tekken 7 (specially the clothing), but the faces, hair and lighting looks more realistic in Tekken Tag 2, they kinda anime-fied the characters in Tekken 7, which of course makes them look less realistic, however considering the nature of the games I can see why it makes sense to take this approach
Strange how everyone has proportional bird chests compared to their other musculature in both games
bro zafina face look so good in ttt2
What I find it interesting is when it comes to side view their a bit identical but on the front view has a lot of change. Tekken torements they a straight forward t-pose while tekken 7 they have a huge fighting pose and overexactratted a bit.
I thought you wouldn't include Julia since she's not in the game as herself but as Jaycee. The Michelle and Julia comparison was nice
Jaycee can be customized to look like her regular self in Tag 2, as can Heihachi.
But also, like OG Kuni and child Kuni, thry are different characters.
@@xOmniCloudx wait really? how pls respond
They focused more on DLC characters I noticed. They all look much better than the base roster characters in T7. Even the redesigns are too good (Anna, Armor King and Zafina) definitely top 3.
Proly because the dlc characters are newer models than the base one
zafina's face changed quite better!
Yeah I dunno. TTT2 is excellent for a PS3 game but there’s so many other factors involved with T7 that naturally make it look better and “more realistic” as some people keep saying; lighting and textures for instance. In a few areas it can ruin the look of the hair in T7 but overall I think it ends up looking better by a large margin as skin isn’t so reflective and all that.
Jin looks happier in T7😂
5:02 is that me or does Xiaoyu's biceps appear bigger on Tekken 7 than on TTT2?
Tekken 7 always looked like graphically enhanced PS2 models minus the sort of realistic, almost uncanny style T6 had with several of its characters. Tag 2, although not perfect looking was like a balanced blend of both and still looks impressive.
TAG 2 is a flop...
@@ghost_kinggamerwe know this, so what now
xiaoyu had a glow up
Amazing
I like most of the male models more in T7, but most of the female models I like more in their TT2 versions. It really goes back and forth though like with kazuya, I think kazuya looks better in TT2 but with steve for example I like his T7 version more. Same with the females, I think lili looks way better in her TT2 version and with anna, I think she looks better in T7 compared to TT2
I like steve in T7 too
yeah it's crazy just how often it goes back and forth considering they are games two entire console generations apart.
some chars are butchered in T7 (Lili) and others look outright better.
I lowkey wish you had added tekken revolution with this. Just Because I remember the revolution characters looking different that ttt2 as well.
the most common thing I noticed is that T7's poses' body is a bit facing to the side.
somebody knows if exist a "definitive edition" for T7 or is it, at least, in namco planning?
6:09 Mother and daughter
My favorite tekken tag Tournament 2
I honestly just wished they had more animations. Like in ttt2(A game I’ve never played)
Everyone in 7 got their head tilted.
It looks awkward in TK7. Yoshimitsu with his head tilted down while looking at you in TKTT2 looks badass and terrifying.
Obviously the textures are better in 7 but the faces look more appealing in tag 2. Look at Kazuya's and tell me what you think.
Do you have T6 and TTT2 comparison already?
Hi Gian Orozco, I only have the one for TEKKEN 6 and TTT2, maybe later I will do TTT2 vs TEKKEN 6 :).
@@YOYODODO cool :)