You're right without the tail a super Saiyan cannot go ssj 4. I know there is no releasing of a remake of super Saiyan 4. They are purely going through toriyama's work post death. So please people refrain from changing and adding things that he would not do himself. Yes the company has control right now but they're following his last script written. To be honest I think super Saiyan 3 is about as high as they will go in dama.
shin(nahare) erased the memories of demon realm from goku,vegeta,bulma not piccolo,and the strength of ssj3 was held within vegeta and got out when beerus hit bulma
If this become true. People going to be fucking crying always saying, GT not been non cannon. 😂😂😂😂 imma laugh at them. Also. If this becomes true. Daima will 100% be a different timeline and not one that follows supers. N if this become true. On man imma go crazy because i love SSj4 form the best form ever.
@@usmnichols8636 Not new here, but I also don't just take things too deep. I can get behind them chucking it up to Goku just forgetting about the form since he got the SSG and SSGSS later but it is a waste of transformation. I don't mind SSJ4 becoming canon, I like it. I would rather like to see them do something with the new fusion method and a new fusion getting the job done. That to me makes more sense.
They'll be no ssj4 of any kind! So y'all can just forget about that idea right now. Yall are forgetting that this takes place before super. The only thing we'll probably see new is a fusiom and its been foreshadowed earlier when goku collected the fusion bugs.
1. GT isn't canon, so there's no reason why SSJ4 _couldn't_ be brought in earlier in the timeline canonically. 2. The form doesn't require anything specific to GT anyway, it's just what happens when you combine a Great Ape with SSJ, then take control of the resulting Golden Great Ape. Technically Goku could have done it as early as after he returned from Yardrat if he still had his tail.
@VestedUTuber this isn't a what if scenario. There's no where you can fit ssj4 between dragon ball z and dragon ball super. Diama is a canon story which takes place between 'Z' and 'Super'. There's no room for any new transformations to be introduced. Ssj3 Vegeta barely makes a pass.
@@crispinsamuel8204 And what about Daima taking place between Z and Super rules out SSJ4? Just the fact that no one uses the form in Super? Or do you have some other reason? Because just saying "no, it can't happen" isn't much of an argument.
@@VestedUTuber #1 ssj4 isn't cannon and it isn't the original work of akira toriyama. If you can read, I'm sure you've seen that diama is Akira toriyama original work. #2 there would be no explanation that would makes sense that would justify how they achieve that transformation, yet didn't use it in super. The only thing new that they can introduce would be a fusion and I believe it's already been foreshadowed via the fusion bugs that Goku collected. So please lay this idea of ssj4 to rest.
@@crispinsamuel8204 1. Neither was the original origins of the Kaioshin - originally that was DB Online material fleshed out by the Daizenshu. But Toriyama adapted it into Daima, with a few alterations. Similarly, Super adapted Z Broly's Legendary Super Saiyan into Super Saiyan Berserk, both with Kale and Super Broly. Saying that "it can't happen because it appeared in a non-canon spinoff first" is a fallacy of relevance as a result, you failed to establish _why_ material from a previous, non-canon spin-off can't be readapted to canon, especially when it's been done before. 2. Dragon Ball isn't known for strictly maintaining continuity. The original Super Saiyan was supposed to be a legendary transformation that appears once every thousand years, according to Vegeta. _Now_ though, it's pretty much become a staple of Saiyans - if you see one on-screen that's an active fighter, chances are they _will_ achieve the form sooner or later. Similarly, Arale first appeared in Dragon Ball all the way back during the Red Ribbon Saga, but Goku apparently forgot she even existed by the time she reappeared in Super.
Tel me you are a clown without telling me you are a clown at Secondly, according to leaks, Vegeta too will have another form in Daima So "it's time to cryyyy"
Lmfao so nobody noticed that those same super Saiyan four eyes is similar to oozaru broly like the eyes have already been tapped when Goku did his transformation sequence in that movie bruh did a whole chest beat
I know y'all had to see that majin design leak photo on some kind of social media you use, it was all over my news feed before the episode with Kuu. Look all in saying is glorio stays sus it's not a stretch to look at that majin fusion design has glorio face and nose even skin color just a darker shade.. Bet he's the jam and the brain in the middle of this fusion sandwich cuz its not either of those idiots faces 😂
But, Goku & Vegeta don't have tails, oddly 🤔!?! Are they hiding it? Was it removed? So, they were turned into kids without it? Was that part of the wish? Revert to child form, but minus the tails???
Stop making videos telling and spreading false information that’s not confirmed or true u basically clickbaiting and misleading on stuff u don’t know now I’m finna report u
I would love to see ssj4 just to make everyone look stupid who are certain it’s not happening. It feels unlikely it will happen but I still want to see it. They should just skip right to ssj5 and say it’s a demon realm specific transformation or maybe the moon is different in the demon realm causing them to turn into great apes even though they don’t have tails they could make something up like the moon triggers dormant cells in the body so they don’t need a tail let’s see some crazy shit I wna see it get weird
ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT GT SSJ4 AINT CANNON 1 AND 2 HE DO NOT HAVE A TAIL AND THE COVER SHOWNED HIM STILL A KID AS SSJ4 AN OTHER REASON WHY IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
As I stated before. And I do this many times this month. Can we stop putting things into dama that won't happen. There will be no janemba. There will not be a super Saiyan 4. Maybe they will find a new form. But this is not GT. That's the first thing I need to say. The second thing is the rules they applied in Canon. In super Saiyan 4 is GT Canon. So to make the situation work how to make for they must have a tail! No there's no way they're going around this. Because this was already written all the way out by toriyama himself. So unless he wrote it into the script to go super Saiyan 4. Which so far there is no indication whatsoever for this.
Even before Daima I felt like someone (Whis ordered by Grand Priest) would do a mind wipe at some point. Make them forget about all the Gods, angels and demon realm so that we can still have the end of Z. Then the series after Super would be about the reawakening of those memories and power.
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How is goku going to turn into super saying four without a tail 1:22
You're right without the tail a super Saiyan cannot go ssj 4. I know there is no releasing of a remake of super Saiyan 4. They are purely going through toriyama's work post death. So please people refrain from changing and adding things that he would not do himself. Yes the company has control right now but they're following his last script written. To be honest I think super Saiyan 3 is about as high as they will go in dama.
Because this is clickbait and misleading information he doesn’t know about that’s not confirmed
@Meelow-jp8lbnot happening bucko hang it up no ssj4 ever in dragon ball daima or dragon ball super
shin(nahare) erased the memories of demon realm from goku,vegeta,bulma not piccolo,and the strength of ssj3 was held within vegeta and got out when beerus hit bulma
Not gonna lie, that would be awesome! 💪
Happy New year 🎉
Awesome
Most likely thing is either a fusion between supreme kai shin and goku or goku and vegeta.
If this become true.
People going to be fucking crying always saying, GT not been non cannon. 😂😂😂😂 imma laugh at them.
Also. If this becomes true. Daima will 100% be a different timeline and not one that follows supers.
N if this become true. On man imma go crazy because i love SSj4 form the best form ever.
So cap 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mannnn
Right it’s why I reported this channel
Not going to happen considering the story is placed right after Buu arc, they won't be able to explain why they didn't use such form in super
It's happening because after again I wish they would become normal and in this child's body Goku somehow grows his tail
Have you never seen Goku become forgetful or get retcon? Are you sure you are not new here?
@@usmnichols8636 Not new here, but I also don't just take things too deep. I can get behind them chucking it up to Goku just forgetting about the form since he got the SSG and SSGSS later but it is a waste of transformation. I don't mind SSJ4 becoming canon, I like it. I would rather like to see them do something with the new fusion method and a new fusion getting the job done. That to me makes more sense.
They'll be no ssj4 of any kind! So y'all can just forget about that idea right now. Yall are forgetting that this takes place before super. The only thing we'll probably see new is a fusiom and its been foreshadowed earlier when goku collected the fusion bugs.
1. GT isn't canon, so there's no reason why SSJ4 _couldn't_ be brought in earlier in the timeline canonically.
2. The form doesn't require anything specific to GT anyway, it's just what happens when you combine a Great Ape with SSJ, then take control of the resulting Golden Great Ape. Technically Goku could have done it as early as after he returned from Yardrat if he still had his tail.
@VestedUTuber this isn't a what if scenario. There's no where you can fit ssj4 between dragon ball z and dragon ball super. Diama is a canon story which takes place between 'Z' and 'Super'. There's no room for any new transformations to be introduced. Ssj3 Vegeta barely makes a pass.
@@crispinsamuel8204
And what about Daima taking place between Z and Super rules out SSJ4? Just the fact that no one uses the form in Super? Or do you have some other reason? Because just saying "no, it can't happen" isn't much of an argument.
@@VestedUTuber #1 ssj4 isn't cannon and it isn't the original work of akira toriyama. If you can read, I'm sure you've seen that diama is Akira toriyama original work.
#2 there would be no explanation that would makes sense that would justify how they achieve that transformation, yet didn't use it in super.
The only thing new that they can introduce would be a fusion and I believe it's already been foreshadowed via the fusion bugs that Goku collected.
So please lay this idea of ssj4 to rest.
@@crispinsamuel8204
1. Neither was the original origins of the Kaioshin - originally that was DB Online material fleshed out by the Daizenshu. But Toriyama adapted it into Daima, with a few alterations. Similarly, Super adapted Z Broly's Legendary Super Saiyan into Super Saiyan Berserk, both with Kale and Super Broly. Saying that "it can't happen because it appeared in a non-canon spinoff first" is a fallacy of relevance as a result, you failed to establish _why_ material from a previous, non-canon spin-off can't be readapted to canon, especially when it's been done before.
2. Dragon Ball isn't known for strictly maintaining continuity. The original Super Saiyan was supposed to be a legendary transformation that appears once every thousand years, according to Vegeta. _Now_ though, it's pretty much become a staple of Saiyans - if you see one on-screen that's an active fighter, chances are they _will_ achieve the form sooner or later. Similarly, Arale first appeared in Dragon Ball all the way back during the Red Ribbon Saga, but Goku apparently forgot she even existed by the time she reappeared in Super.
Finally Goku again surpassed joker saiyan 🤣
Tel me you are a clown without telling me you are a clown at
Secondly, according to leaks, Vegeta too will have another form in Daima
So "it's time to cryyyy"
everyone knows who is the clown that is kakarot, not the prince of all saiyans prince vegeta
Lmfao so nobody noticed that those same super Saiyan four eyes is similar to oozaru broly like the eyes have already been tapped when Goku did his transformation sequence in that movie bruh did a whole chest beat
Epic
Every time Vegeta gets a new form Goku gets one as well soon after there is no escaping that
I know is like making vegeta weaker than goku always not even
How can goku turn super s4 without a tail
@@Deaezy right ?
i wish they can atchive ss4
Khalil Super Saiyan 4
Fr
Doubt we’re gonna get ssj4
You wish 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He's going ss4 but it supposed to be towards the end and it's supposed to be by mistake then it goes off
This is wild no tail then again ss4 is nonsense
I know y'all had to see that majin design leak photo on some kind of social media you use, it was all over my news feed before the episode with Kuu. Look all in saying is glorio stays sus it's not a stretch to look at that majin fusion design has glorio face and nose even skin color just a darker shade.. Bet he's the jam and the brain in the middle of this fusion sandwich cuz its not either of those idiots faces 😂
Sick of these spoiler videos
But, Goku & Vegeta don't have tails, oddly 🤔!?! Are they hiding it? Was it removed? So, they were turned into kids without it? Was that part of the wish? Revert to child form, but minus the tails???
Dragon ball super season 2
Will believe it when I see it. Who’s the final boss?
Stop making videos telling and spreading false information that’s not confirmed or true u basically clickbaiting and misleading on stuff u don’t know now I’m finna report u
Happy new year
ssj4 ke baad vegta ssj4 achieve kare ga aur goku ssj5
Imagine waiting 2 weeks for barely 15min op play. No wonder anime doesnt really make money..
c'est impossible cette forme car goku ne possède pas queue
1st off wasn't ssjy4 unlocked with the tail, and by them not having Tails then there's no ssjy4😅😅
Part 14
We’re definitely not getting SSJ4
bhai goku childred maine tail ke bina mujhe acha nahi lagta
But why they want to always seen goku over vegeta always getting vegeta down it sucks
And if this is after Majin Buu the SSj4 can't play because why goku don't use ssj4 blue or ssj4 god or ssj4 ultra instinct vs Jiren
Chicken Licken ebabayo from Thando Mahlalela Vosloorus ext 28
Lol no 😂😂
I would love to see ssj4 just to make everyone look stupid who are certain it’s not happening. It feels unlikely it will happen but I still want to see it. They should just skip right to ssj5 and say it’s a demon realm specific transformation or maybe the moon is different in the demon realm causing them to turn into great apes even though they don’t have tails they could make something up like the moon triggers dormant cells in the body so they don’t need a tail let’s see some crazy shit I wna see it get weird
Fake 💩
ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT GT SSJ4 AINT CANNON 1 AND 2 HE DO NOT HAVE A TAIL AND THE COVER SHOWNED HIM STILL A KID AS SSJ4 AN OTHER REASON WHY IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
As I stated before. And I do this many times this month. Can we stop putting things into dama that won't happen. There will be no janemba. There will not be a super Saiyan 4. Maybe they will find a new form. But this is not GT. That's the first thing I need to say. The second thing is the rules they applied in Canon. In super Saiyan 4 is GT Canon. So to make the situation work how to make for they must have a tail! No there's no way they're going around this. Because this was already written all the way out by toriyama himself. So unless he wrote it into the script to go super Saiyan 4. Which so far there is no indication whatsoever for this.
Click bait
LAAAAAAAAAME😊
Fake video
If as4 happen it's official it's no before super it's something entirely different from the jump
Fr goku will hit ssj4
Even before Daima I felt like someone (Whis ordered by Grand Priest) would do a mind wipe at some point. Make them forget about all the Gods, angels and demon realm so that we can still have the end of Z. Then the series after Super would be about the reawakening of those memories and power.
Fake no ssj4