I honestly don’t care if a woman wants to shake it, but have some strong talent to go with it! I might not be a Nicki fan but she is crazy talented and shows her body off, so I respect that.
Actually she lost spotify listeners not followers Followers and listeners are different Artist gain listeners when they get streams for example ice spice listeners were on peak when boys a liar and like barbie world was blowing up but now less people steam those songs since they are getting old hence she is losing listeners it happens to every artist when they stop making new music for a long time but here ice spice lost a LOT compared to other artist so that's why
@@senchumbenipatton2049 my bad for mixing up followers and listeners. Either way I think they are majority fake, especially the streams. I don’t know how labels get away with this but I see Ice can’t get a solo number one or top 10. If her streams were so high that would translate on the billboard as higher chart placement.
Latto can actually rap though that's the crazy part. Ice spice isn't even lyrically on the same level as her. I like ice spice but her formula is definitely getting old. She needs to do better now
@brithneycampbell I liked her new song but it's way to similar to nicki so that formula won't work either . So I really don't know how she's gonna save herself from flopping sm ,and I only compared her to Latto cause she isn't mainstream like icespice soon won't be
Latto is a better rapper than ice and I don't even like Latto. Her southern drawl while rapping irks me and she is a bore. There is no iconic latto verse that every one and their cat knows. She has been out for years now.
Labels pay to play. That's how most of these girls survive and succeed. Even Doja is boosted by auto-play and heavy playlisting. There is a whole industry that uses bots, pay to play radio, and playlisting.
Mid Spice was "hacked" on Valentine’s Day last year and within a week had gained 15 million listeners. No one reported on it but my little channel. Her listeners were never real. Wack 100 then used her as an example when showing ppl on clubhouse what fake listeners looks like becuz the streams don't match. Video still on my page.
That babystorme girl really humbled ice spice an messed up her whole rise to be the biggest female rapper and it’s all because of ice spice texting about nicki that’s crazy
I’m not gone lie, if she did that because Ice really did bully her when they were young, I know that revenge was sweet. She plotted for years. That’s dedication 😭😭😭
i don't think the playlist thing is true. everytime she releases a song it become front cover for the feeling myself playlist. hell she's on it right now with phat butt 😭
Her team waited way too long. Should’ve dropped a whole yr earlier. She got waaay too hot for just a EP. Thts why Cardi’s album is still talked about. It dropped at the PERFECT time. She should’ve dropped around the Super Bowl at the latest. When Deli was hittin. And she was around T.Swift. If it is over it was a great run. Did a lot in a yr. But in 2024. U gotta drop when u hot. Tht simple. Time moves way too fast to care.
i also wouldnt be surprised if boys a liar passing its peak contributed to the drop in listeners too, considering that song was huge last year. it’ll soon be at 1B streams which is crazy i like some of ice’s songs tho! i’ll stream when her album drops but if it’s not good, then it’s not good 😭 im worried for her too, im sure the pressure would be crazy
People now hype up pretty girls just to tear them down ... the saweetie effect honestly, if she isn't passionate about the music like saweetie this humiliation ritual will snowball...
Its not about them being pretty at all, its about them being talentless. If Ice Spice and Saweetie had talent, people would respect them and their music careers would have longevity. But they're not, so...
I think too much value is being placed on monthly listeners. Last year she put out hit after hit resulting in her peak despite her small discography and so now her listeners now are representing where she’s at without a hot song. Sabrina carpenter is currently number 9 in the world above drake with two hit songs but we wouldn’t call her a bigger artist than him despite that great achievement. And her numbers will likely fall a lot too a few months after her album drops albeit to somewhere in the 50-40 mil region. The reality is all ice would need is a smash hit to return to or even surpass her peak listeners but that still wouldn’t even be indicative of how many fans she has. That’s why the monthly listener conversation isn’t really valuable, because at her peak she had more monthly listeners than Beyoncé had at that time but she is obviously not on Beyoncé’s level of fame. Her monthly listeners back then communicated the size of her hits and now they communicate how big she actually is. And for only having around 25 songs she isn’t doing too bad. She isn’t as big as she was last year obviously but her decline isn’t as drastic as people are making it sound considering she’s been losing monthly listeners progressively since deli died down and fart only really slowed down what is actually a natural decline without putting out a large hit.
I agree. 15 million humans is a ton?? She still is making lots of money and has a name. I don’t understand. And this isn’t in defense of her music bc I don’t rly listen to that genre in general. I guess the focus is about losing ppl but like you said there was huge vitality at first. 15 mil is enough I think ppls thoughts can become a little skewed from being online offen
People are like sheep-they will literally follow any hate train. I knew the general public would turn on Ice lol. Honestly, this isn’t the end of her career. I’ll still listen, stream, and support her 💞
I never supported her anyway, it's def not a train. I dropped her officially after she fat shamed a woman for giving her constructive criticism. ice has no talent and is truly a terrible artist that has gotten away with rapping about poops and fart, and giving her music the bare minimum. But good for u
I think y’all defenetly don’t know what a hate train is… Since the Nicki Minaj hate train y’all really been thinking any female rapper that receives critics is on a hate train as if a trend. This is not a joke lol. A REAL hate train is when the medias, the whole industry and radios are trying to destroy your career : inventing fake news, not putting your music on radios, celebrities starting to hate you… That’s what happened to Nicki Minaj. Ice Spice defenetly isn’t on a hate train, she still have some fans listening to her music, her songs trend on Tik Tok… Nobody just really paying attention like before when she just came out and that’s not because 2, 3 people say you trash that you are in a hate train
@@xoxoly8238I don’t believe in fat shaming😂 so I’m still supporting Ice spice, fat shaming is just an excuse fat people use when they get told to lose weight for their health😂😂😂
@@marysdream4817 but it's not just 2 and three followers that's the thing . She had 40 mil and dropped down to 15k . Why? Because she cannot take constructive criticism without trying to play the mean girl trope , just like she did with one of her fans that removed "Y2K " off the garbage can on her album cover?? What's even more embarrassing, latto who she called a flop, is sitting at more listeners than her while ice spice is flopping her damn self. This is not a train, ice spice put herself in this predicament. If she would've kept her chill vibe with no beef and trying to act like a bully , and just released chill music like her first album , we would still like her. And it's not that she was talented that's the thing u don't understand. She got the most numbers out of her collabs , and when she started collabing with Nicki that was her break out. And her beef with latto was the only reason why the fart song was even noticed , and even that was bad. Now she's trying to beef with Nicki Minaj to gain more traction and streams by trolling Nicki , stealing from her damn wardrobe and copying her flow because she has no talent, but somehow calling Nicki delusional?i will never understand you " munchkins" who point the finger at everyone but Annie , in my opinion when she started beefing with latto ( someone who can rap CIRCLES around her ) is when everything pretty much went to shit. Not to mention the screenshots her best friend leaked
The funny thing is that she hasn't really evolved and has consistently been who she is as a rapper, so that means we are the problem, we decided to equate talent with who we like and not real talent. She screams real industry plant, sexy redd as well. The barbz support helped significantly, alot of gaslighting in the industry, it needs to stop, I hate rap lyrics that have no ingenuity, it used to be called "bubble gum" rap and no one was successful pulling it off but her, it's shows where we are as listeners, we are going backward not forward...
I don't wanna be rude, but... She's not interesting She has no concept She has no good producers She has no good bars She has nothing I don't even think she's that good of a rapper She just needs to offer something more than the 20th version of Munch
I’m pretty sure she just makes fun music. Not everything/everything has to be serious or a carefully crafted work of art. I don’t listen to her but yeah I don’t think she’s going for a best bars award haha
@@liyahs1energy I never said she couldn't do just fun music and that all music should be serious There's a lot of musicians who just make music for fun. But that's the thing. Her music is not fun, it's bland and boring.
Because she’s not talented. Doja cat is the princess of rap. She’s the most like Nicki the queen of rap. Nicki did pop and rap and Doja does the same. Ice is a FLOP
when Ice 1st dropped i liked munch but she was boring . it wasnt until the wave of hate started mounting against her & i realized it was mostly men who were salty they’d never be able to smash i definitely can say i started hyping ice up just bc it was fun like i remember alot of tik tok girlies og streaming Ice outta pure spite. i can say i was streaming at the gym on purpose atp but now its like its not even a joke or like a “thing” to like ice how it was at 1st idk i feel like they shouldve played into the incel-ish hate/love relationship dynamic and trolling shit with her persona
Because your numbers are big don’t mean ur a better artist ppl get so up roared on numbers and artists has to have more than that the sam ppl hating on her is the same ones was listening too her yes I will stream it’s nothing wrong with icespice gimme the was not the best but she got bops she blew up so fast unexpected so she didn’t ask for this or any fanbase to support her she didn’t start off looking and imitating Nicki she has her own signature ginger hair curly natural thick also if ppl can digest sexy red they can spice the other rappers talk about the same things to I’m take yo man my coochie good I’m shopping at Chanel and so on ppl so quick to turn on someone this exact what storme what because her career didn’t go no where I get why ice didn’t address it because that would give her more clout so it didn’t fully go how storme wanted maybe she talked to Nicki behind the scenes Nicki and her still following one another I’m sure Nicki may forgive her she did jt add she was team cardi a whole diss song and also talked behind her back jt needs to watch before they turn on her next just saying I think ppl feel uncomfortable be if u Nicki friend u have to walk on egg shells one wrong move they hate u just saying
Go hard???? 💀😂. Your standards gotta be real low 😂. I hope she falls off because she's clearly an untalented industry plant. And i hope a new rap girl who's talented, hard working and passionate about music take her spot!
Should've never came for Nicki's wig, in private or open... And try having humility for once... If she's smart, she should apologise publicly to Nicki...
the apology wouldn’t be sincere. i feel like she would only apologize in hopes to get back on the barb’s good side so they can stream her music again. her numbers haven’t been doing well since those text messages leaked.
@@hotskaterchic9993 There is a BIG difference between not kissing *ss and being hypocrit by shading the woman that got you your first #1 ! Sexy Red did a remix with Nicki, she didn’t talked bad about her after that and didn’t necesserely showed her love either after that but Nicki did invited her to do a remix for “ FTCU ”. Ice Spice was caught talking sh*t about Nicki behind the scene when Nicki did her a favor by giving her a #1. Nicki just deserve respect. That’s the difference
Yeah video on my page of her being "hacked" on Valentine’s Day last year, gaining 15 million listeners and how it's all fake. No one reported on it but my little channel
Congrats on 4k 🎉
Thank you 🎉
I want everyone to just chill out on the hypersexuality 😅 show us some talent
@@Escoveeche saaammmmmeeeeeee! But remember, Nicki set the bar 🫤
She has none tho
I honestly don’t care if a woman wants to shake it, but have some strong talent to go with it! I might not be a Nicki fan but she is crazy talented and shows her body off, so I respect that.
Her appeal is dying and she was never talented y’all just listen to anybody
THIS!!!
I never believed her Spotify followers were truly legit to begin with. The streams, sales, and charting didn’t match up.
Actually she lost spotify listeners not followers
Followers and listeners are different
Artist gain listeners when they get streams for example ice spice listeners were on peak when boys a liar and like barbie world was blowing up but now less people steam those songs since they are getting old hence she is losing listeners it happens to every artist when they stop making new music for a long time but here ice spice lost a LOT compared to other artist so that's why
@@senchumbenipatton2049 my bad for mixing up followers and listeners. Either way I think they are majority fake, especially the streams. I don’t know how labels get away with this but I see Ice can’t get a solo number one or top 10. If her streams were so high that would translate on the billboard as higher chart placement.
I think this is her last year of relevancy , soon shell be on the same level as latto etc
Latto can actually rap though that's the crazy part. Ice spice isn't even lyrically on the same level as her. I like ice spice but her formula is definitely getting old. She needs to do better now
@brithneycampbell I liked her new song but it's way to similar to nicki so that formula won't work either . So I really don't know how she's gonna save herself from flopping sm ,and I only compared her to Latto cause she isn't mainstream like icespice soon won't be
Latto is a better rapper than ice and I don't even like Latto. Her southern drawl while rapping irks me and she is a bore. There is no iconic latto verse that every one and their cat knows. She has been out for years now.
Nah, she gon be the same level as Iggy Azalea.
@@christakanst7014latto is mainstream
Labels pay to play. That's how most of these girls survive and succeed. Even Doja is boosted by auto-play and heavy playlisting. There is a whole industry that uses bots, pay to play radio, and playlisting.
Makes sense tbhhh
Mid Spice was "hacked" on Valentine’s Day last year and within a week had gained 15 million listeners. No one reported on it but my little channel. Her listeners were never real. Wack 100 then used her as an example when showing ppl on clubhouse what fake listeners looks like becuz the streams don't match. Video still on my page.
That babystorme girl really humbled ice spice an messed up her whole rise to be the biggest female rapper and it’s all because of ice spice texting about nicki that’s crazy
I’m not gone lie, if she did that because Ice really did bully her when they were young, I know that revenge was sweet. She plotted for years. That’s dedication 😭😭😭
i don't think the playlist thing is true. everytime she releases a song it become front cover for the feeling myself playlist. hell she's on it right now with phat butt 😭
She's ironically had the same sort of trajectory and longevity as Vanilla Ice
More like Saweety
Her team waited way too long. Should’ve dropped a whole yr earlier. She got waaay too hot for just a EP. Thts why Cardi’s album is still talked about. It dropped at the PERFECT time. She should’ve dropped around the Super Bowl at the latest. When Deli was hittin. And she was around T.Swift. If it is over it was a great run. Did a lot in a yr. But in 2024. U gotta drop when u hot. Tht simple. Time moves way too fast to care.
@@originalblerd in this come n go world that’s a L. It’s rare ppl care. Ppl cared. Now they don’t.
i also wouldnt be surprised if boys a liar passing its peak contributed to the drop in listeners too, considering that song was huge last year. it’ll soon be at 1B streams which is crazy
i like some of ice’s songs tho! i’ll stream when her album drops but if it’s not good, then it’s not good 😭 im worried for her too, im sure the pressure would be crazy
After them Nicki texts came out it was a rap for her!
Yes cant wait for the 5k video!
Go to her comments on her TH-cam 35% of the comments say the same thing with botted profiles been knew she was a fake
That's a 63% drop
Spotify also filters out every artists monthly listeners over a set time and they experience either big or small losses but this loss is crazy
People now hype up pretty girls just to tear them down ... the saweetie effect honestly, if she isn't passionate about the music like saweetie this humiliation ritual will snowball...
Latto two stepping rn
Its not about them being pretty at all, its about them being talentless.
If Ice Spice and Saweetie had talent, people would respect them and their music careers would have longevity. But they're not, so...
Her “real” fans only want to see her………not hear her🙉
I think too much value is being placed on monthly listeners. Last year she put out hit after hit resulting in her peak despite her small discography and so now her listeners now are representing where she’s at without a hot song. Sabrina carpenter is currently number 9 in the world above drake with two hit songs but we wouldn’t call her a bigger artist than him despite that great achievement. And her numbers will likely fall a lot too a few months after her album drops albeit to somewhere in the 50-40 mil region. The reality is all ice would need is a smash hit to return to or even surpass her peak listeners but that still wouldn’t even be indicative of how many fans she has. That’s why the monthly listener conversation isn’t really valuable, because at her peak she had more monthly listeners than Beyoncé had at that time but she is obviously not on Beyoncé’s level of fame. Her monthly listeners back then communicated the size of her hits and now they communicate how big she actually is. And for only having around 25 songs she isn’t doing too bad. She isn’t as big as she was last year obviously but her decline isn’t as drastic as people are making it sound considering she’s been losing monthly listeners progressively since deli died down and fart only really slowed down what is actually a natural decline without putting out a large hit.
I agree. 15 million humans is a ton?? She still is making lots of money and has a name. I don’t understand. And this isn’t in defense of her music bc I don’t rly listen to that genre in general. I guess the focus is about losing ppl but like you said there was huge vitality at first. 15 mil is enough I think ppls thoughts can become a little skewed from being online offen
BarbieWorld song came out last year, Barbie was one of the highest grossing movies of 2023
Barbie was the highest grossing movie of 2023
Because she’s not talented
Yes please make a video about u!! My son was recently diagnosed with autism. I would love to know your story
Fake streams bought numbers. Fake rapper????
Can we get a video on WTF Kalli went? she was like the only one with some potential and she GONE gone
Didn’t she disrespect the OGs twice with the samples? First ludacris then Keyshia Cole
@@Yocyndiewhat????
@@aspireistoinspirebeforewee3519 yes she fell out with Keyshia on Twitter. Very unfortunate
Yes, you should make that video!
People are like sheep-they will literally follow any hate train. I knew the general public would turn on Ice lol. Honestly, this isn’t the end of her career. I’ll still listen, stream, and support her 💞
I never supported her anyway, it's def not a train. I dropped her officially after she fat shamed a woman for giving her constructive criticism. ice has no talent and is truly a terrible artist that has gotten away with rapping about poops and fart, and giving her music the bare minimum. But good for u
I think y’all defenetly don’t know what a hate train is… Since the Nicki Minaj hate train y’all really been thinking any female rapper that receives critics is on a hate train as if a trend. This is not a joke lol. A REAL hate train is when the medias, the whole industry and radios are trying to destroy your career : inventing fake news, not putting your music on radios, celebrities starting to hate you… That’s what happened to Nicki Minaj. Ice Spice defenetly isn’t on a hate train, she still have some fans listening to her music, her songs trend on Tik Tok… Nobody just really paying attention like before when she just came out and that’s not because 2, 3 people say you trash that you are in a hate train
@@xoxoly8238I don’t believe in fat shaming😂 so I’m still supporting Ice spice, fat shaming is just an excuse fat people use when they get told to lose weight for their health😂😂😂
@@marysdream4817 but it's not just 2 and three followers that's the thing . She had 40 mil and dropped down to 15k . Why? Because she cannot take constructive criticism without trying to play the mean girl trope , just like she did with one of her fans that removed "Y2K " off the garbage can on her album cover?? What's even more embarrassing, latto who she called a flop, is sitting at more listeners than her while ice spice is flopping her damn self. This is not a train, ice spice put herself in this predicament. If she would've kept her chill vibe with no beef and trying to act like a bully , and just released chill music like her first album , we would still like her. And it's not that she was talented that's the thing u don't understand. She got the most numbers out of her collabs , and when she started collabing with Nicki that was her break out. And her beef with latto was the only reason why the fart song was even noticed , and even that was bad. Now she's trying to beef with Nicki Minaj to gain more traction and streams by trolling Nicki , stealing from her damn wardrobe and copying her flow because she has no talent, but somehow calling Nicki delusional?i will never understand you " munchkins" who point the finger at everyone but Annie , in my opinion when she started beefing with latto ( someone who can rap CIRCLES around her ) is when everything pretty much went to shit. Not to mention the screenshots her best friend leaked
Ice spice has had a career identical to Sawettie
The funny thing is that she hasn't really evolved and has consistently been who she is as a rapper, so that means we are the problem, we decided to equate talent with who we like and not real talent. She screams real industry plant, sexy redd as well. The barbz support helped significantly, alot of gaslighting in the industry, it needs to stop, I hate rap lyrics that have no ingenuity, it used to be called "bubble gum" rap and no one was successful pulling it off but her, it's shows where we are as listeners, we are going backward not forward...
Her Illuminati contract is running out as we speak
Ice Spice is lazy. It reflects in her content and her style. Clearly the budget is very low.
I’ve been here from the beginning how did I not know that you have autism? Omg I’d love a video about that
Hahahahahahaha I don't really talk about it but it is in all of my video descriptions along with other fun facts about me
She's getting boring.. pretty privilege can only take you so far for real.
Bye Annie.
How you lose 25mill users in less than a year-wowwww
I lowkey hope her album is good 😬😬🫣🤣🤣🤷🏿♂️
It won’t be
Can you talk about cupcakkes upcoming album (28 june)
I don't wanna be rude, but... She's not interesting
She has no concept
She has no good producers
She has no good bars
She has nothing
I don't even think she's that good of a rapper
She just needs to offer something more than the 20th version of Munch
Ur not wrong bro
I’m pretty sure she just makes fun music. Not everything/everything has to be serious or a carefully crafted work of art. I don’t listen to her but yeah I don’t think she’s going for a best bars award haha
@@liyahs1energy I never said she couldn't do just fun music and that all music should be serious
There's a lot of musicians who just make music for fun.
But that's the thing. Her music is not fun, it's bland and boring.
@@e.g.evermore4390exactly! Fun doesn't = lazy and unoriginal
Because she’s not talented. Doja cat is the princess of rap. She’s the most like Nicki the queen of rap. Nicki did pop and rap and Doja does the same. Ice is a FLOP
Doja the TRUE princess of the rap
when Ice 1st dropped i liked munch but she was boring . it wasnt until the wave of hate started mounting against her & i realized it was mostly men who were salty they’d never be able to smash i definitely can say i started hyping ice up just bc it was fun like i remember alot of tik tok girlies og streaming Ice outta pure spite. i can say i was streaming at the gym on purpose atp but now its like its not even a joke or like a “thing” to like ice how it was at 1st idk i feel like they shouldve played into the incel-ish hate/love relationship dynamic and trolling shit with her persona
Her music was never good tho……..
@@KiwiChillzexactly
She never had the plot
Not a fan of Ice Spice but Noooo offense, no one cares about what Dj Akademiks misogynistic self says lol.
I’m gonna get hate but low I still like ice spice
Same i want to see her do well but its not looking too good
I dont-so I don’t really care if she flops or not. Her fame wasn’t built on talent anyway, so oh well.
me tooo
@@chikensaregood9500 frfr
@@unfiltered8407 I have hope and that is it
Because your numbers are big don’t mean ur a better artist ppl get so up roared on numbers and artists has to have more than that the sam ppl hating on her is the same ones was listening too her yes I will stream it’s nothing wrong with icespice gimme the was not the best but she got bops she blew up so fast unexpected so she didn’t ask for this or any fanbase to support her she didn’t start off looking and imitating Nicki she has her own signature ginger hair curly natural thick also if ppl can digest sexy red they can spice the other rappers talk about the same things to I’m take yo man my coochie good I’m shopping at Chanel and so on ppl so quick to turn on someone this exact what storme what because her career didn’t go no where I get why ice didn’t address it because that would give her more clout so it didn’t fully go how storme wanted maybe she talked to Nicki behind the scenes Nicki and her still following one another I’m sure Nicki may forgive her she did jt add she was team cardi a whole diss song and also talked behind her back jt needs to watch before they turn on her next just saying I think ppl feel uncomfortable be if u Nicki friend u have to walk on egg shells one wrong move they hate u just saying
I like ICE idk what yall say
She just have to improved
Those Spotify listeners aren't all real bc they be buying them
Why are we acting like she just didn’t go hard on Fisherrr? I like Ice’s personality and hope she doesn’t fall off.
@@maddfinn11 like what does her personality have to do with her music🤦🏾♀
Loved fisherrr mess was a vibe
Go hard???? 💀😂. Your standards gotta be real low 😂.
I hope she falls off because she's clearly an untalented industry plant. And i hope a new rap girl who's talented, hard working and passionate about music take her spot!
@@maddfinn11 stfu💀🙏🏽 I just said fisherrr was hard in the same comment clearly implying I like her music and personality doofus.
@@Storm-zp9zm #hoesmad
Should've never came for Nicki's wig, in private or open... And try having humility for once... If she's smart, she should apologise publicly to Nicki...
the apology wouldn’t be sincere. i feel like she would only apologize in hopes to get back on the barb’s good side so they can stream her music again. her numbers haven’t been doing well since those text messages leaked.
What’s up with this nicki thing yall have. It’s like if a woman rapper doesn’t kiss nicki minajs ass they are doomed, what the fck
@@hotskaterchic9993 There is a BIG difference between not kissing *ss and being hypocrit by shading the woman that got you your first #1 ! Sexy Red did a remix with Nicki, she didn’t talked bad about her after that and didn’t necesserely showed her love either after that but Nicki did invited her to do a remix for “ FTCU ”. Ice Spice was caught talking sh*t about Nicki behind the scene when Nicki did her a favor by giving her a #1. Nicki just deserve respect. That’s the difference
This is cap. No one can show the real numbers big lies
It’s true. She had 33M monthly listeners and now she got like 15.5M monthly listeners now.
No one has shown a screen shot of those users #1. #2… even if it were 33M and is now 15.5M that’s not down 25M more like 18M
Ok y’all keep being delusional
Yeah video on my page of her being "hacked" on Valentine’s Day last year, gaining 15 million listeners and how it's all fake. No one reported on it but my little channel
Those Spotify listeners aren't all real bc they be buying them