Thanks, I am really torn between the both now. I have an R60V & thought the GS3 would be the next. I now swing to the Rocket, really like idea of doing an extraction manually then saving is to me such a good way. I find using the profile I preprogramme in the R60V a slow way to get the best out of my beans. Where the R91 you can watch the extraction then save, sounds good to me.
I like you had a R60V and could not decide beween R9/1 or GS3. I eventually went Rocket R9/1 and very happy, it is a big stepup from the R60v and produces consistently great coffee
IMO I think the GS3 has easier to read dials because, while they are smaller, they're angled towards the user, rather than being so low and not angled to the user on the R9. It's all preference of course! Really great comparison, it was extremely informative :)
The GS3 is extremely easy to get into (sides, top and back), and panels replaced with always a good fit - designed to be that way. It looks more difficult to get into the Rocket (I had an early Giotto, and replacing panels so they didn't buzz was a bit of a trick), especially with the steam lever on the side panel. Would be nice to see the insides of that gear pump Rocket!
@@knottymatt I'm curious as to why you'd say that. The R91 has a saturated group head which the You doesn't fully confirm as having. Besides that, the You has way more tech and programmability - *but* if the only thing compared is the taste of the espresso then it seems that both machines should be able to achieve similar results after some practice and familiarity. Do you disagree?
@sohailhines comes down to level of control as well as repeatability. Saturated groups are overrated, as long as you control temp effectively I'll take the greater shot parameters to nail my God shots any day of the week. That in addition to 5 minute max heat-up.
Both lovely machines and a great video. I'd say the only machines out there that look better than the R 9 1 are the Slayer and the Della Corte Mina. All of these are no doubt able to give truly outstanding results if the grinder and user are up to the task.
I have a GS3 AV that’s 14 years old and although it makes a very tasty cup, I’ve had to repair it several times. Thinking about getting a new GS3 MP but the R91 is really comfortable for me to use with the arthritis in my hands. Would you keep the AV or get an R91 in these circumstances?
The r91 lever is certainly easier to move than the gs3. If you have a little time up your sleeve I would wait to see if LM release their straight in portafilter heads into the gs3. That would be a great option for your hands
An interesting machine is the ECM puristika. Its espresso only and the water tank is located on the outside of the machine . Meaning no water tank inside the machine and maintenance is straight forward. Everything you need nothing you dont.
Oohhh that’s tough, as I have had the lm style profiles for many years i am accustomed to the taste. The r91 was super tasty, so I think it’s more in the head and heart over the taste comparison.
@@crissignori74821000 times 😂 The Rocket is nice but the ECM is a much classier machine with a higher quality finish. I’ve had a look at both. Looks are subjective of course and I prefer the Synco and you prefer the rocket but I think you exaggerate a bit eh
These are still very popular models sold Around the world. New technology takes time to be adopted, and not everyone wants to be full digital. Yes the Sanremo you and Decent are great machines in their own right
@@corny155 I think there are many small professional coffee bars with GS3's in them. Why do you say that these can't make 4-6 shots? Not saying they're full pro class but catering outfits and small parties could be the sweet spot for these since they're more muscular than your average double boiler like the Bianca and other machines without saturated groups.
Good video but your basic quoted specs are just plain wrong and misleading. You'd expect you would check your facts before you publish a review. Your credibility is shot.
Thanks, I have corrected the info in questions, I am not perfect, I try to remember it all so it’s not a cut up spec sheet like a robot. 💯 natural, cheers luke
Thanks, I am really torn between the both now. I have an R60V & thought the GS3 would be the next. I now swing to the Rocket, really like idea of doing an extraction manually then saving is to me such a good way. I find using the profile I preprogramme in the R60V a slow way to get the best out of my beans. Where the R91 you can watch the extraction then save, sounds good to me.
Yes a super quick and easy way to save and repeat profiles
I like you had a R60V and could not decide beween R9/1 or GS3. I eventually went Rocket R9/1 and very happy, it is a big stepup from the R60v and produces consistently great coffee
@familyfowkes could never decide & Rocket now have the Bricocca. Are you still happy with R9 1?
IMO I think the GS3 has easier to read dials because, while they are smaller, they're angled towards the user, rather than being so low and not angled to the user on the R9. It's all preference of course! Really great comparison, it was extremely informative :)
The GS3 is extremely easy to get into (sides, top and back), and panels replaced with always a good fit - designed to be that way. It looks more difficult to get into the Rocket (I had an early Giotto, and replacing panels so they didn't buzz was a bit of a trick), especially with the steam lever on the side panel. Would be nice to see the insides of that gear pump Rocket!
Yes you can customise the gs3 easy. Maybe we will pull the rocket apart and show you soon 🤙🏻
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters wait! Doesn't the R Nine One have a rotary pump now (I think it used to have a gear pump but have upgraded it).
R91 looking good for save profile. I have Slayer 1 Group but don't know should i change to R91 ? It will be downgrade or what ?
A different perspective, the ability to save and repeat it what you will gain.
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters i saw Synesso ES1 is good too. Already review it ?
I’d like to see the R91 up against the Sanremo You !
Sure, we have played with the you, but never have them side by side. We will work on that @sanremoaustralia
Sanremo You and Decent will destroy these.
Deeesstttteoooooooyyyyyy
@@knottymatt I'm curious as to why you'd say that. The R91 has a saturated group head which the You doesn't fully confirm as having. Besides that, the You has way more tech and programmability - *but* if the only thing compared is the taste of the espresso then it seems that both machines should be able to achieve similar results after some practice and familiarity. Do you disagree?
@sohailhines comes down to level of control as well as repeatability. Saturated groups are overrated, as long as you control temp effectively I'll take the greater shot parameters to nail my God shots any day of the week. That in addition to 5 minute max heat-up.
Both lovely machines and a great video. I'd say the only machines out there that look better than the R 9 1 are the Slayer and the Della Corte Mina. All of these are no doubt able to give truly outstanding results if the grinder and user are up to the task.
I have a GS3 AV that’s 14 years old and although it makes a very tasty cup, I’ve had to repair it several times. Thinking about getting a new GS3 MP but the R91 is really comfortable for me to use with the arthritis in my hands. Would you keep the AV or get an R91 in these circumstances?
The r91 lever is certainly easier to move than the gs3. If you have a little time up your sleeve I would wait to see if LM release their straight in portafilter heads into the gs3. That would be a great option for your hands
Thanks! I’ll watch for that.
An interesting machine is the ECM puristika. Its espresso only and the water tank is located on the outside of the machine . Meaning no water tank inside the machine and maintenance is straight forward. Everything you need nothing you dont.
What about putting a Slayer Machine in this fight? (I think it is even more expensive) ☕
We need to get our hands on one. 🤙🏻
Great video thanks Luke! So which one makes better espresso in your opinion?
Oohhh that’s tough, as I have had the lm style profiles for many years i am accustomed to the taste. The r91 was super tasty, so I think it’s more in the head and heart over the taste comparison.
Nice one Luke! I really enjoy using my GS3, super solid in all departments!
Great to hear!
The both look a bit fiddly over an E61 group head. The ECM Synchronika is cheaper, looks better and works great would love to see a comparison.
I'd say the Rocket looks 1000x better than the ECM Synchronika and should do more precise and repeatable profiling.
@@crissignori74821000 times 😂 The Rocket is nice but the ECM is a much classier machine with a higher quality finish. I’ve had a look at both. Looks are subjective of course and I prefer the Synco and you prefer the rocket but I think you exaggerate a bit eh
Great video thanks Luke! Have you tried the Faema E61? I'd be curious to know the difference with the GS3.
Not yet! Sorry, but I’m heading to Italy ext month, I’ll keep and eye out. Cheers luke
Actually the steam boiler of R Nine One is larger than the GS3
Yep they are the same, I got the numbers mixed up .😂
I suppose the lack of features and outdated technology can be called artisan. But great video though. Thanks.
Would love to see a review/comparison with the Rocket Epica…. 👍🏼
R9 One has a 1.9 l brew boiler and a 3.6 l steam boiler.
Yes got this wrong sorry
Love it thanks so much for comparing the two ….. decisions… decisions 😂 we have between the two both as you said look and sound amazing
Happy to answer any more questions you may have. Cheers luke
Amazon Coffee Roasters :-)
Build quality of GS3 much far away against R9 One from a user used both of them.
Which has better build quality in your opinion?
Sorry but thats not right you mentioned about the capacity od the rocket. The Steamboiler is much bigger than you mentioned!
Wrong information. The R Nine One has bigger boilers than LM
Yes!! Your correct, I got it wrong. The rocket has the 3.6lt steam boiler. Sorry all!
Neither! haha pointless comparison when you have the Decent and Sanremo You. These are now dinosaur relicts.
These are still very popular models sold Around the world. New technology takes time to be adopted, and not everyone wants to be full digital. Yes the Sanremo you and Decent are great machines in their own right
Toys…nice to mess with. Not to great to actually make a 4-6 shots
@@corny155 I think there are many small professional coffee bars with GS3's in them. Why do you say that these can't make 4-6 shots? Not saying they're full pro class but catering outfits and small parties could be the sweet spot for these since they're more muscular than your average double boiler like the Bianca and other machines without saturated groups.
In reference to Sanremo you and decent
I'd Trade my Decent XXL for any of these two.
Good video but your basic quoted specs are just plain wrong and misleading. You'd expect you would check your facts before you publish a review. Your credibility is shot.
Thanks, I have corrected the info in questions, I am not perfect, I try to remember it all so it’s not a cut up spec sheet like a robot. 💯 natural, cheers luke
Get a decent if you want to tinker
Yes they allow great pressure profiling, lacking in steam and volume of output
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters I've heard the XXL 240 volt version is much better for steaming have you heard different ???
I own the XXL its very watery and isn't worth it. @@rjejames28