People certainly had different ideas about justice back then! I can't imagine witnessing such a thing but I suppose times were different in some ways. Now we just hop on social media and vilify people. 😂
This is the first time I have seen one of your videos and it is a subject near and dear to my heart, the Old West!!! You did a great job, covering many aspects of the incident and switching back and forth between towns for accuracy!!! Excellent story, which I am had never heard before, which was surprising!!! Wonderful job!!!! Attaboy!!
Thank you for this guided tour of the Bisbee hold-up and resultant justice from the 1880's. I had not heard of this historical event before. The lynching of Heath reminds us that the police exist not to protect us from the criminals, but to keep the townsfolk from getting their hands on the criminals.
Very well done. Big fan of Tombstone history. Visited Tombstone a few times and once to Bisbee. You are right, there is a lot more to the history than the famous OK Coral. The court house is a fascinating place for sure. When I went to Bisbee I focused on the tour of the copper mine. I was unaware of this crime spree until seeing your video. Although I remember Heath's marker at Boot Hill, I just never realized the bigger part of the story. Thanks for doing this video. Great work. I walked everywhere around Tombstone, even spent a week there one time, found the home of Virgil Earp, but at the time Wyatt's house was not, for some reason, documented and pointed out, nor do I remember seeing the sculpture that is there now. One of the most amazing things you pointed out was the stump of the telegraph pole where they hung Heath. I do not remember seeing that or the little historical panel? You did a great job, I know this represents hours of work. Greatly appreciated. If I might ask, where did you get the music track? It was perfect for the video.
That you so much! Your experiences sound so much like ours. Numerous times we had been to Tombstone and passed by so many markers where we didn't really take note of the bigger story - Boot Hill Cemetery, the courthouse, etc. Our first visit to Bisbee was the same (including the Copper Queen Mine - GREAT place!). Somewhere along the way the Bisbee Massacre came on our radar and found David Grassé's book about the event. It's SUPER well researched and honestly, we could never do it justice. So many details we just didn't have time in this video to include. But going back knowing some of these things really brought life into smaller corners we once missed. As for the music, probably came from Epidemic Sound. I use a lot of music when editing various videos and you'll have to forgive me if I don't remember the name of it but I'm 99% sure it came from there as that's the resource we've been using as of late. 😄
My dad grew up in Bisbee and Nogales in the 1920s. In his memoirs he recounted an incident when Mexican revolutionaries shot up the town of Nogales and his family was evacuated from their railroad-owned house. When they returned he found a bullet hole in a bedframe. He said a unit of black soldiers from Ft.Huachuca was stationed in the town to protect it from further raids and that he and his friends were impressed with the machine gun they had set up. Somewhere on the internet I saw a photo of this. There was a battle there also in 1918 but my dad was born in 1921 so it must have been a different incident.
@@CactusAtlas There is much more to my dad's life. He grew up in Mexico as his dad was a railroad worker and his mom was half-Yaqui and thus considered Spanish his native language. His memoirs are astonishing to me. After he graduated Nogales High School he went to California and worked as a mail clerk at the Biltmore Hotel where he met celebrities like Judy Garland. When the war broke out he joined the Army and became a B-24 navigator and flew 30 missions into Germany during 1943. His bomb group alone had over 500 men KIA. He also met Jimmy Stewart who was XO of the neighboring bomb group. After the war he served in the CIA in Germany tracking down Nazis attempting to flee to South America through Spain. Also in the 1950s we lived in Spain where he encountered one Juan Sanchez, who was actually Leon DeGrelle, the Belgian Nazi party boss who had been sentenced to death by the Belgian government but was under the protection of Spain's fascist dictator Franco. He reported this to his superiors and was told to treat DeGrelle as though he were Juan Sanchez, He never said 2 words about all this to me and I found it out from other sources. He continued in the Air Force and his last direct supervisor on active duty was Gen. Curtis LeMay. After he retired he got a PhD in Economics and became head of the logistics branch at the Air Force Institute of Technology, which had been started by Robert McNamara during WWII. My point in relating all this is that they make movies about guys like my dad but looking at him you would never know (he was built like Don Knotts) and he never mentioned it. That was his generation.
@@CactusAtlas Here's another interesting topic for you to consider. My grandfather's cousin ran a newspaper, mining, and general store operation in White Oaks, New Mexico during the late 1800s. He and his brother are profiled in the book "Gold-Mining Boomtown: People of White Oaks, Lincoln County, New Mexico Territory" by Roberta Haldane, who asked me to review her chapter on them. I have a long letter dated 1906 from a Kentucky pastor of the same family name who apparently visited White Oaks. He goes into detail about his own family and mentions his cousin John T. Thompson, who he said was a colonel in the US Army and had written an entry in the Encyclopedia Britannica about small arms. This was none other than Gen John Thompson who later invented the Thompson Submachine Gun. I have been to White Oaks a couple times and it is well worth a visit and profile on your channel. The other chapters in Roberta's book are also fascinating. Billy the Kid frequented White Oaks for its saloons and brothels, and he and his compatriots murdered a well-liked member of the community which enraged the town who sent a posse after them.
I live just 20 miles from Tombstone. I have not seen the gallows! Always wanted to. Very interesting history I had no clue of. 🥰👍 I love Bisbee. Such a sad event though. Very well done sir! 😃
Thanks! We had a lot of fun researching and putting this one together. If you get a chance to check out the courthouse (and haven't before), it really is worth the time. There's a lot of old photos and items we didn't have time to include in any videos that are well worth seeing. 😄
Having lived in the area (Sierra Vista, AZ) I love to visit both Bisbee and Tombstone. I have stayed in their hotels and Bed and Breakfasts just for the experience. Wonderful shopping in Bisnee these days too if you want strange and different things to collect. Yes, ghosts are also a part of that. You feel like you are in another time....
We would love to experience more of Bisbee (especially all the historic hotels and B&Bs). So little time though! 😅 Thanks for watching and the kind comment!
2 of the killers went to Clifton and were arrested after one of them gave his girlfriend a watch he had stolen in the robbery/murder. She gave it to the sheriff who checked it out against the list of stolen items telegraphed throughput the territory. The killers were converted to Christianity by Nellie Cashman who ran a boarding house in Tombstone for local miners. The killers begged Nellie to use her influence with Tombstone miners to have them protect the killers graves from Bisbee miners who were planning to dig up and mutilate the killers bodies.
Yup. David Grasse's book on the event is a great resource for information about it. Too bad we didn't have the ability to include all of the information in our video.
Thanks so much! The story was originally going to be a short blip in our earlier Bisbee video but while editing I was like "Oh no. There is too much story to this." 😂
Loved the video! HUGE history buff, and had seen Heath's marker a few times in the many videos done in boot hill. Always seen the Bisbee massacre on it but knew nothing about it! Fascinating! Thank you so much for the history!
You're so welcome! That's actually how we started out too, seeing Heath's market and wondering what it was all about. Luckily there are a few really great books out there that cover the event. Thanks for watching and the comment. 😊
Excellent video, this is new information to me. You know what? The inside of the court room reminded me of a Clint Eastwood movie. I’m not sure which one. Was it Joe Kid or Fist Full Of Dollars? Some picture along those lines from that era. You did a really good job.
I live nearby in Cochise County, and I really enjoy your dives into the history of the area. You taught me things about historic situations that I thought I could not learn more about. Great video and great channel!
I was starting to respond thinking about how different things must have been and felt back then but honestly, looking around these days... not that different to some degree. Makes one wonder what current days will look and seem like in another 150 years.
Haha! Thanks so much! Glenn's wardrobe actually wasn't meant to be an "outfit" so much as just protecting the head and neck from the sun due to filming all day but ... it kind of worked. 😄
Thanks so much! Glenn and I both worked really hard on the this video between researching, editing, recording the voiceover, and filming the on site clips. 😊
I grew up in Lincoln County NM, not far from Lincoln where the famous Billy the Kid roamed. I was lucky to hear old stories from people who were so much older and knew more of the players involved. They have re enactment yearly.
That is something I often times ponder. I am of a generation who is not forever cut off from the old timers of those times, and what I would do to be able to talk to those that lived in back then and saw things first hand.
This is one of my favourites along with the history of Tombstone videos I wonder if they ever make a movie like they did with Tombstone that could be yours and Amy's next project 🤩 once again thanks just love em all 👍
This is so cool!!! I just got back from Bisbee AZ. My brother bought me a ticket from Vancouver Canada to Tucson Arizona so I could spend a week with him at his house in Bisbee Arizona. He spent the entire visit telling me and showing me the history of Bisbee AZ. Coolest town I've ever visited in the USA. Loved all the graffiti.
Tombstone does a great job with tourism and has a lot of history but Bisbee is the hidden secret of the county tucked back in the Mule Mountains. While you can visit a couple of very well-preserved old western streets in Tombstone, The whole entire city of Bisbee (30+ miles) is historic. Events such as the Bisbee Massacre, the Bisbee Deportation, the Bisbee Riot, and the first foreign aerial bomber in American history fill its past and more. Furthermore, the mining camp in Bisbee was started by a drunk prospector whose father was killed by Apaches, who was bought from the Apaches by prospectors, who lost the Copper Queen mine in a drunken bet, and ended up with his image in the middle of the Arizona State Seal. Bisbee is quite the place.
Thanks for telling this story . I visited all of the places you showed here as a small child in 1962 , a youngster in 1966 , a couple of times as a teen and as an adult from Florida . I never heard anyone recount the event as well as you did ! It was barely mentioned by anyone . Following you now and checking out your other videos !
@@CactusAtlas Bisbee was thriving when we were there in the 1960’s . The Lavender mine was active and fascinating to watch as huge dump trucks drove round and round down those terraces to be loaded with ore. They looked like tiny ants on a reversed ant-hill . Even in 1970 when we spent the most time in Cochise Co. , Bisbee still had a small hospital , A&W , grocery store , theater and even a JCPenney’s (where my folks bought me some dresses) right there on the Main Street . When we went back in 1972 the ore was running out and many people were moving away , stores were closed . It was becoming a desolate ghost town . I didn’t get back there until 1999 . The town had taken on the artsy , New Agey thing but wasn’t much but a tourist stop . Other than your video I haven’t seen much about it since . I love that area , well , Arizona in general .
Ah! I think I know where the J.C. Penney was! While I went there with Glenn on a trip, I noted J.C. Penney Company, Inc. spelled out in tile on the ground while walking around. Fascinating to think of how the town was throughout the decades! Thank you for sharing your experiences with us. 😄
If this is your passion… I hope someday you’ll do this full time. You are a good narrator, if I may say so being that English is my second language. Bravo!
Well done ! You need to come to hillsville va. Do a story on the 1912 Carroll county massacre the Allen clan shot up the courthouse 5 people died . And check the museum at Harmon's in Woodlawn VA. A lot of news paper article s from 1912 you can even visit sidna Allen house at fancy gap in rt. 52
A bit far away from the Southwest and where we live but sounds fascinating. Might have to read up on it just for pure interest! 😄 Thanks for the suggestion. 👍
Outstanding video! I believe that John Heath's lynch mob was mostly made up of men who came of from Bisbee, rather than Tombstone townsfolk. A quick side story. An entrepreneur, looking to make a buck, built a grandstand outside the yard behind the courthouse. He was going to charge to allow men to climb the grandstand and watch the legal hanging of the five men. Nellie Cashman, known as the Angel of Tombstone, was so outraged by this that she gathered some men to tear down the grandstand prior to the execution.
The book we used for research mentioned that a number of miners in town were waiting for the bell to ring to signal the start of work and when it didn't ring they walked down Toughnut towards the courthouse where some commotion was going on. So while they probably didn't initially know about the intent to spring Heath from prison, it's likely they were witness. But yes! You are correct on the other two points. It is said that a lot of people also just stood on the roofs of surrounding buildings rather than pay to watch from the stand that had been erected. 😅 Sadly if we had included these details the video would have been ridiculously long. So many details that really flesh out the story from the pocketwatch they stole to all the witness testimonies.
I've never been to Bisbee, but I've walked the streets of Tombstone dressed in period clothing, wearing a hand made gun belt and holster I put together from a pattern obtained from the internet. I carried a Cimmaron Arms 1873 SAA replica. The first time I went to Tombstone, I could carry just about anywhere, but you did turn your piece over to the bartender if you wanted a beer. On following trips, the laws had changed. I had to check my gear in with a "keeper" if I wanted to enter any establishment.
Given recent court decisions I suspect you'll be able to open and conceal carry with a permit again pretty soon. I temember when I was in high school in the early 1970's I was in Lake Isabella, a very small and isolated town at the end of the road on the north edge of the Mojave Desert and the southern end of the foothills of the Sierra Nevada.. They were having a Lake Isabella Days Festival and biker gangs from all over California were known to be coming to congregate there and bust the town open. The Sheriff and Town Marshal deputized almost every rancher, every local tribal member and the capable townsman to keep the peace. There were more Stetsoned men with holstered pistols, jeans and cowboy boots walking around than I've ever seen before or since. Many were carrying shotguns or carbines. All of their. Pickup trucks on the main streets were guarded by their dogs and had full gun racks. Lots of bikers showed up, but they were the most peaceful folk you'd ever see. They didn't even spit on the street and all the trash went into garbage cans. Very surreal Old West cowboy experience. And I'm descended from families that emigrated to Southern California in the 1800's. Heck, my grandparents were born in LA when it was still a very small town, long before Hollywood. Even the local LA County Sheriff when I was a boy in the early 1960's had pictures of himself from around the time my parents were born in the 1920's being with a horseback posse in cowboy gear carrying lever action rifles and revolvers on horseback to hunt robbers in our lical foothills. The Old West isn't so old. Just get out into the back country and look carefully.
@@brianmccarthy5557 I was living outside San Bernardino, CA, when I was able to visit Tombstone. I now live in Washington state, where I acquired a concealed permit as soon as I was recognized as a resident. Our county sheriff is a Constitutional sheriff, and we all heartily support him. In fact, you see signs on people's private residences thanking him for the work he has done protecting our rights from both state and federal government overreach. While I lived in California, (30 years), I was always denied a carry permit, even though I have nothing, not even misdemeanors, on my record.
Wow, a Huge Thank You, been to Tombstone, loved the Crystal Palace my self & other soldiers, just was not aware of the Bisbee Massacre & should have been...
It escaped our knowledge for a good while as well. Really a fascinating story. Wish we could have covered more of it but the video might have been an hour long! 😅
Thank you for this video, I found it very well done and well edited. ALSO, as a 60 year old Native of AZ I was surprised of these facts! I mean Dude, I have never heard this before (weird right,???I should have) nope... Never. Thank you for your efforts here, you DEF got a Sub!
Thank you so much! Glenn's going on 20 years as a native here but yeah, neither of us had heard of this event until recently. We were just commenting the other day we don't even remember how it come to our attention but there's a few books that go into further detail about it if you're interested. The book by David Grassé is highly recommended. The guy did a LOT of research into the records of the event.
I lived in Bisbee in 1975-76, while my guy attended Cochise College in Douglas, AZ. I still have and adore the Bisbee Blue jewelry I collected while there. One piece was left for me in lieu of a tip when I worked in the Copper Queen Hotel's Restaurant. Now, that is the place with ghosts!
Wow! That is one heck of a tip! Would have loved to stay at the Copper Queen. Always one day in the future. Would love to hear some of your encounters if you feel like sharing. 😊
This is my first time seeing your video and i love the content im a wild west amateur historian keep up the great work!!! P.S. You kind of look like another youtuber i watch Adam The Woo ...😉
Thanks for the visit. We’ve been to both Bisbee and Tombstone, but we were not aware of the Bisbee massacre. Did you visit the Copper Queen Hotel? We stayed there, evidently in a room that we shared with one of the ghosts that haunt the hotel. Might make a good story for you sometime.
We haven't stayed at the Copper Queen, no. Went in the lobby during one trip but have yet to stay there. I think I know the story that you're referring to though. 😊 Might have to schedule a night one of these days.
Haha! Oh that pesky algorithm. Always making us wonder what exactly it knows and is doing. 😂 Glad you got to visit Boot Hill though. It's curious walking around the headstones and trying to imagine who the people were and what lives they lived.
I have been to many of these places by way of a motorcycle because old west history is interesting. I will be hitting the road soon for Gallup,New Mexico . The toughness of the early pioneers is amazing . It brings back a lot of great memories watching you channel. Thanks.
This was right before my family showed up there. I'm still glad my grandma moved my dad to Denver. He's the last of the line to be born in Bisbee. I'd still love to visit someday. My dad's like... Why?
Bisbee is a place full of history and interesting things tucked away all over the place. Definitely worth a visit especially if you have family history there. 😄
Man I love the look of those old wooden floors, I assume most are original, to think of all the footsteps and boots that crossed and walked on them is fascinating just like walls, if they only could talk?
I’ve been there many times actually I was just thinking of going back this week, to be honest once you’ve seen it a few times it starts to get old. It’s just a little town and it’s not much to do there after you’ve done it all but hey, once a year is fine.
Bisbee is a really awesome little town. I live in the little town before it which is a little bigger which is Sierra vista. Tombstone is also a nice little town. Both has lots of history. Being from Sierra vista, Bisbee and Tombstone you have lots of family and friends around.
I grew up near there in Sierra Vista and used to travel all around that area on my motorcycle. I haven't been back there for about 40 years now but it is interesting country.
Wasn't the Lofton Hotel one of the buildings that caught fire earlier this year? I grew up in Bisbee and I was never sure where the massacre took place.
We haven't been there since the fire so I'm not 100% sure of where the damage was precisely, but judging from aerial shots I saw on the news, it almost looked like it was the two business immediately to the right. I would have to imagine the Letson Loft might have sustained some damage.
thank you for this bit of Old West History. so happy you said hung as lynched is usually reserved for vigelance hangings. guess the last guy did receive viglante justic
Even though the headstone for Heath uses it, not a fan of the word myself given how it's used these days. 😕 Happy to provide a little story telling though! Thanks for checking out our video.
The Courthouse was the Cochise County Courthouse not the Tombstone Courthouse. The Tombstone City Court was just a block away a couple doors down from C. S. Fly's Photography Studio. Heath was buried in Boot Hill Cemetery, later disinterred and sent to Texas.
I hated history as a kid. I never learned all the presidents' names like so many of my peers. I grew up in a small, country town in Southern Indiana. However, I've been living in Phoenix for 16 years. I love learning the history of this area (because then, during our daily phone calls, I can tell my 70 year old mom the cool things I've learned).
Thank you for taking me to a place I will probably never be able to see. Mob justice is the best justice. Killers feared the people more than they feared the law. Should be noted as our society continues its decline.
@@CactusAtlas it's the red building in the background at the very beginning of the video! The owner and staff are so kind, and it's decorated like no other hotel!
OH! Inn at Castle Rock? That's actually where we stayed during that trip. We show a bit of it in our other Bisbee video. 😄 Very a very enjoyable stay indeed!
Indeed there was a judge - Judge Pinney. And if I recall correctly, there were transcripts but some were lost. A lot of what remains are copies that made it into newspapers around the country. We would have loved to have added more about the court cases themselves but it would have made for far too long of a video. If you're curious, David Grassé's book on the subject. The author went to great lengths to research the events and the detail in the book is amazing.
@@CactusAtlas my late wife and my grand mother were both Court Reporters. My grand mother was a Court Reporter in the 30s. In Chicago. She used to tell us stories about the "Roaring Twenties". My late wife loved her job so much, she wrote papers on the History of it.
Pretty much Yes to everything. While some records may get damaged in fires, etc. we're not talking the Stone Age. All of this stuff is buried in archives. There are historians who research voluminous European archives over a thousand years old. We not only have a lot of Roman records but an amazing amount of relatively trivial archives evwn from Sumerian and Old Kingdom Egyptian times more than 4,000 years ago. Paycheck stubs, land transfer certificates, tax records, trial transcripts, diplomatic letters, marriage contracts, etc. and more. We keep turning up new stuff. There's lots sitting in storage just waiting translation and publication. I remember in college reading a letter by the Emperor Nero's tutor, the eminent writer Seneca, from about 60 AD bitching about having to drive to his country home in a rainstorm and not having a hot meal when he got home.
Im trying to get information on Bisbee that may sound crazy. I went thru Bisbee for work travel, had no time to spend but remember when travel to and back , I saw religious figures on side of mountains. There were many statues along my drive, in many different spots and high on sides of hill and mountains. Just curious if you know anything about this. Ive been looking for info as it stood out to me as unusual. Thanks for any suggestions on why,
Oh gosh. I'm sorry, I can't say that I've ever noticed anything of the sort in my visit there and I don't remember Glenn mentioning anything of the sort either unfortunately. Hopefully if anyone else sees your comment they will know and share.
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Oh my goodness! If that brand of justice didn't scare people straight, I don't know what would.
Thanks for another great episode, Glenn and Amy.
People certainly had different ideas about justice back then! I can't imagine witnessing such a thing but I suppose times were different in some ways. Now we just hop on social media and vilify people. 😂
This is the first time I have seen one of your videos and it is a subject near and dear to my heart, the Old West!!! You did a great job, covering many aspects of the incident and switching back and forth between towns for accuracy!!! Excellent story, which I am had never heard before, which was surprising!!! Wonderful job!!!! Attaboy!!
Thank you! We had a lot of fun making this video together. 😊
Thank you for this guided tour of the Bisbee hold-up and resultant justice from the 1880's. I had not heard of this historical event before. The lynching of Heath reminds us that the police exist not to protect us from the criminals, but to keep the townsfolk from getting their hands on the criminals.
if there are no police around this is what happens
What an amazing video. Great job. Those were some rough times. I like hearing about the history but glad I didn’t have to experience it.
Thank you so much! Absolutely agree with you. Much better to experience it through research or a video than first hand. 😶😅
even just day to day life , my grandfather broke his first section with a walking plow . he walked 5000 miles behind the team of oxen
Very well done. Big fan of Tombstone history. Visited Tombstone a few times and once to Bisbee. You are right, there is a lot more to the history than the famous OK Coral. The court house is a fascinating place for sure. When I went to Bisbee I focused on the tour of the copper mine. I was unaware of this crime spree until seeing your video. Although I remember Heath's marker at Boot Hill, I just never realized the bigger part of the story. Thanks for doing this video. Great work. I walked everywhere around Tombstone, even spent a week there one time, found the home of Virgil Earp, but at the time Wyatt's house was not, for some reason, documented and pointed out, nor do I remember seeing the sculpture that is there now. One of the most amazing things you pointed out was the stump of the telegraph pole where they hung Heath. I do not remember seeing that or the little historical panel? You did a great job, I know this represents hours of work. Greatly appreciated. If I might ask, where did you get the music track? It was perfect for the video.
That you so much! Your experiences sound so much like ours. Numerous times we had been to Tombstone and passed by so many markers where we didn't really take note of the bigger story - Boot Hill Cemetery, the courthouse, etc. Our first visit to Bisbee was the same (including the Copper Queen Mine - GREAT place!). Somewhere along the way the Bisbee Massacre came on our radar and found David Grassé's book about the event. It's SUPER well researched and honestly, we could never do it justice. So many details we just didn't have time in this video to include. But going back knowing some of these things really brought life into smaller corners we once missed.
As for the music, probably came from Epidemic Sound. I use a lot of music when editing various videos and you'll have to forgive me if I don't remember the name of it but I'm 99% sure it came from there as that's the resource we've been using as of late. 😄
My dad grew up in Bisbee and Nogales in the 1920s. In his memoirs he recounted an incident when Mexican revolutionaries shot up the town of Nogales and his family was evacuated from their railroad-owned house. When they returned he found a bullet hole in a bedframe. He said a unit of black soldiers from Ft.Huachuca was stationed in the town to protect it from further raids and that he and his friends were impressed with the machine gun they had set up. Somewhere on the internet I saw a photo of this. There was a battle there also in 1918 but my dad was born in 1921 so it must have been a different incident.
That’s very interesting, thanks for sharing!
@@CactusAtlas There is much more to my dad's life. He grew up in Mexico as his dad was a railroad worker and his mom was half-Yaqui and thus considered Spanish his native language. His memoirs are astonishing to me. After he graduated Nogales High School he went to California and worked as a mail clerk at the Biltmore Hotel where he met celebrities like Judy Garland. When the war broke out he joined the Army and became a B-24 navigator and flew 30 missions into Germany during 1943. His bomb group alone had over 500 men KIA. He also met Jimmy Stewart who was XO of the neighboring bomb group. After the war he served in the CIA in Germany tracking down Nazis attempting to flee to South America through Spain. Also in the 1950s we lived in Spain where he encountered one Juan Sanchez, who was actually Leon DeGrelle, the Belgian Nazi party boss who had been sentenced to death by the Belgian government but was under the protection of Spain's fascist dictator Franco. He reported this to his superiors and was told to treat DeGrelle as though he were Juan Sanchez, He never said 2 words about all this to me and I found it out from other sources. He continued in the Air Force and his last direct supervisor on active duty was Gen. Curtis LeMay. After he retired he got a PhD in Economics and became head of the logistics branch at the Air Force Institute of Technology, which had been started by Robert McNamara during WWII. My point in relating all this is that they make movies about guys like my dad but looking at him you would never know (he was built like Don Knotts) and he never mentioned it. That was his generation.
@@CactusAtlas Here's another interesting topic for you to consider. My grandfather's cousin ran a newspaper, mining, and general store operation in White Oaks, New Mexico during the late 1800s. He and his brother are profiled in the book "Gold-Mining Boomtown: People of White Oaks, Lincoln County, New Mexico Territory" by Roberta Haldane, who asked me to review her chapter on them. I have a long letter dated 1906 from a Kentucky pastor of the same family name who apparently visited White Oaks. He goes into detail about his own family and mentions his cousin John T. Thompson, who he said was a colonel in the US Army and had written an entry in the Encyclopedia Britannica about small arms. This was none other than Gen John Thompson who later invented the Thompson Submachine Gun. I have been to White Oaks a couple times and it is well worth a visit and profile on your channel. The other chapters in Roberta's book are also fascinating. Billy the Kid frequented White Oaks for its saloons and brothels, and he and his compatriots murdered a well-liked member of the community which enraged the town who sent a posse after them.
I live just 20 miles from Tombstone. I have not seen the gallows! Always wanted to. Very interesting history I had no clue of. 🥰👍 I love Bisbee. Such a sad event though. Very well done sir! 😃
Thanks! We had a lot of fun researching and putting this one together. If you get a chance to check out the courthouse (and haven't before), it really is worth the time. There's a lot of old photos and items we didn't have time to include in any videos that are well worth seeing. 😄
@@CactusAtlas I will. Thanks ❤️😊
Great job! I’ve been to Bisbee, but had never heard of this until now.
Yeah, I find a lot of folks (including myself at one point not long ago) had not either! Thanks for watching!
Great video. Bisbee is such an underrated destination. So much history and so fun to walk around.
Totally agree! Would love to go back and cover some more of the stuff we missed!
Having lived in the area (Sierra Vista, AZ) I love to visit both Bisbee and Tombstone. I have stayed in their hotels and Bed and Breakfasts just for the experience. Wonderful shopping in Bisnee these days too if you want strange and different things to collect. Yes, ghosts are also a part of that. You feel like you are in another time....
We would love to experience more of Bisbee (especially all the historic hotels and B&Bs). So little time though! 😅 Thanks for watching and the kind comment!
Used to love walking through Bisbee and hitting the shops. My knees are too bad now to do it anymore
2 of the killers went to Clifton and were arrested after one of them gave his girlfriend a watch he had stolen in the robbery/murder. She gave it to the sheriff who checked it out against the list of stolen items telegraphed throughput the territory. The killers were converted to Christianity by Nellie Cashman who ran a boarding house in Tombstone for local miners. The killers begged Nellie to use her influence with Tombstone miners to have them protect the killers graves from Bisbee miners who were planning to dig up and mutilate the killers bodies.
Yup. David Grasse's book on the event is a great resource for information about it. Too bad we didn't have the ability to include all of the information in our video.
So much history! You guys did such a great job learning and documenting the details!! 👍😀
Thanks so much! The story was originally going to be a short blip in our earlier Bisbee video but while editing I was like "Oh no. There is too much story to this." 😂
Loved the video! HUGE history buff, and had seen Heath's marker a few times in the many videos done in boot hill. Always seen the Bisbee massacre on it but knew nothing about it! Fascinating! Thank you so much for the history!
You're so welcome! That's actually how we started out too, seeing Heath's market and wondering what it was all about. Luckily there are a few really great books out there that cover the event. Thanks for watching and the comment. 😊
I am so happy to have found your channel! I love this history. Thx you for your teachings!
Thank you! Happy to have you here! 😄
Excellent video, this is new information to me. You know what? The inside of the court room reminded me of a Clint Eastwood movie. I’m not sure which one. Was it Joe Kid or Fist Full Of Dollars? Some picture along those lines from that era. You did a really good job.
Thank you so much! 😄
I live nearby in Cochise County, and I really enjoy your dives into the history of the area. You taught me things about historic situations that I thought I could not learn more about. Great video and great channel!
Oh wow! Thank you! The history episodes are some of our favorite. Just wish we had more time to do them more frequently. 😊
Thank you for sharing this I didn't know about this massacre. This was a very interesting video, and an interesting piece of history.
Thanks so much! 😄
Just found your channel and subscribed. Thanks for your hard work documenting real history!
Thankfully, it is a fun hobby and we love doing it! Thanks so much for checking us out!
Really cool video and story telling!
Thanks so much!
My ancestors moved to Cochise County in 1879. They must've been shocked by the violence that occurred in the years that followed.
I was starting to respond thinking about how different things must have been and felt back then but honestly, looking around these days... not that different to some degree. Makes one wonder what current days will look and seem like in another 150 years.
Great story! Wonderful coverage, well shot and edited. And your outfit was in perfect harmony with your story. Excellent production.
Haha! Thanks so much! Glenn's wardrobe actually wasn't meant to be an "outfit" so much as just protecting the head and neck from the sun due to filming all day but ... it kind of worked. 😄
Great vlog Glen! You are an amazing storyteller...giving history a new life!
Thanks so much! Glenn and I both worked really hard on the this video between researching, editing, recording the voiceover, and filming the on site clips. 😊
I grew up in Lincoln County NM, not far from Lincoln where the famous Billy the Kid roamed. I was lucky to hear old stories from people who were so much older and knew more of the players involved. They have re enactment yearly.
That is something I often times ponder. I am of a generation who is not forever cut off from the old timers of those times, and what I would do to be able to talk to those that lived in back then and saw things first hand.
Really nice presentation. Thank you!
You're very welcome! Glad you enjoyed it! 😄
Great video thanks for sharing
Thanks so very much! 👍
Brother....youre very thorough. I appreciate you're easy going approach as well. Hope you're able to do this full time very soon. Great job !
We appreciate that! Both of us took a lot of time to research for this video. Shame we couldn't include it all. Thanks again! 😄
Thank you! That was excellent. I'm looking forward to watching more videos from you!
Thank you so much! More to come each Thursday! 😄
It is quite apparent that you do a lot of research to fill in these interesting stories. Thank you Gramma Candy
We try our best. Thank you! 😊
This is one of my favourites along with the history of Tombstone videos I wonder if they ever make a movie like they did with Tombstone that could be yours and Amy's next project 🤩 once again thanks just love em all 👍
Thanks! That would be cool but would take a looooooooot of money we don't have as well as some improved moviemaking skills. 🤣
This is so cool!!! I just got back from Bisbee AZ. My brother bought me a ticket from Vancouver Canada to Tucson Arizona so I could spend a week with him at his house in Bisbee Arizona. He spent the entire visit telling me and showing me the history of Bisbee AZ. Coolest town I've ever visited in the USA. Loved all the graffiti.
Very nice brother you have! We love Bisbee too. Really a unique place to visit (or to live in I imagine). 😄 Thanks for stopping by our channel!
Western history. You did a good job of relating this part and time of the old west to us.
Thank you! That means a lot to us. 😊
Awesome video 👍 very interesting 🤠
Thanks! 😊
Well done. I enjoyed this and shared it on FB to my 5K pals.
Oh wow! Thanks you so much for sharing!! 😄
Good job, thank you for this story.
Our pleasure! Thanks for visiting. 😄
Tombstone does a great job with tourism and has a lot of history but Bisbee is the hidden secret of the county tucked back in the Mule Mountains. While you can visit a couple of very well-preserved old western streets in Tombstone, The whole entire city of Bisbee (30+ miles) is historic. Events such as the Bisbee Massacre, the Bisbee Deportation, the Bisbee Riot, and the first foreign aerial bomber in American history fill its past and more. Furthermore, the mining camp in Bisbee was started by a drunk prospector whose father was killed by Apaches, who was bought from the Apaches by prospectors, who lost the Copper Queen mine in a drunken bet, and ended up with his image in the middle of the Arizona State Seal. Bisbee is quite the place.
Agree! There's so much history there it is hard to even condense it all to one video. Near impossible really.
@@CactusAtlas Agree totally. Bisbee, Tombstone, Willcox and Benson were all "old west" towns, and all of them should be treasured.
Thanks for telling this story . I visited all of the places you showed here as a small child in 1962 , a youngster in 1966 , a couple of times as a teen and as an adult from Florida . I never heard anyone recount the event as well as you did ! It was barely mentioned by anyone . Following you now and checking out your other videos !
Oh thank you so much! We appreciate that so much. How much has Bisbee changed over the years?
@@CactusAtlas Bisbee was thriving when we were there in the 1960’s . The Lavender mine was active and fascinating to watch as huge dump trucks drove round and round down those terraces to be loaded with ore. They looked like tiny ants on a reversed ant-hill . Even in 1970 when we spent the most time in Cochise Co. , Bisbee still had a small hospital , A&W , grocery store , theater and even a JCPenney’s (where my folks bought me some dresses) right there on the Main Street . When we went back in 1972 the ore was running out and many people were moving away , stores were closed . It was becoming a desolate ghost town . I didn’t get back there until 1999 . The town had taken on the artsy , New Agey thing but wasn’t much but a tourist stop . Other than your video I haven’t seen much about it since . I love that area , well , Arizona in general .
Ah! I think I know where the J.C. Penney was! While I went there with Glenn on a trip, I noted J.C. Penney Company, Inc. spelled out in tile on the ground while walking around. Fascinating to think of how the town was throughout the decades! Thank you for sharing your experiences with us. 😄
If this is your passion… I hope someday you’ll do this full time. You are a good narrator, if I may say so being that English is my second language. Bravo!
Thank you! We hope one day we can do this full time (as do most creators 😅) but until then it is an enjoyable hobby.
Celebrating 10 yr. Wedding anniversary. Driving to Calif from Texas, will definitely stop in Tombstone and check it out. Great vid, thanks !!!
Great video, thanks for posting it. Love your Keffiyeh...
Thanks for watching!
Well done ! You need to come to hillsville va. Do a story on the 1912 Carroll county massacre the Allen clan shot up the courthouse 5 people died . And check the museum at Harmon's in Woodlawn VA. A lot of news paper article s from 1912 you can even visit sidna Allen house at fancy gap in rt. 52
A bit far away from the Southwest and where we live but sounds fascinating. Might have to read up on it just for pure interest! 😄 Thanks for the suggestion. 👍
Too bad they didn't have Court TV back then, would have made some interesting viewing. 😁
Tysm for reporting this because I never heard about it before and I live in AZ and been to Bisbee a lot.
Happy to help! 😊
Great content and narrating!
Thanks so much! 👍
I love the history. Thanks for the video.
Our pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Wow, never heard of this story. Thanks for sharing.
Our pleasure! 😊
Really enjoyed your video, I have been out there but missed a couple things you showed us. Just happen to run across your video. Thank you !!
Awesome, thank you! Glad you enjoyed our video! 😄
Cool vid. My grandfather was born in East Texas in 1885! Wow!
Outstanding video! I believe that John Heath's lynch mob was mostly made up of men who came of from Bisbee, rather than Tombstone townsfolk.
A quick side story. An entrepreneur, looking to make a buck, built a grandstand outside the yard behind the courthouse. He was going to charge to allow men to climb the grandstand and watch the legal hanging of the five men.
Nellie Cashman, known as the Angel of Tombstone, was so outraged by this that she gathered some men to tear down the grandstand prior to the execution.
The book we used for research mentioned that a number of miners in town were waiting for the bell to ring to signal the start of work and when it didn't ring they walked down Toughnut towards the courthouse where some commotion was going on. So while they probably didn't initially know about the intent to spring Heath from prison, it's likely they were witness.
But yes! You are correct on the other two points. It is said that a lot of people also just stood on the roofs of surrounding buildings rather than pay to watch from the stand that had been erected. 😅 Sadly if we had included these details the video would have been ridiculously long. So many details that really flesh out the story from the pocketwatch they stole to all the witness testimonies.
Author JA Janice wrote many books about the sheriff and life in Bisbee Arizona. Love all her stories, super writer . Can’t wait for her next book.
Will look into that author. Thanks so much for the recommendation. 😄
I also wanted to say you made the town of Bisbee come alive in the stories I read by MsJA Janice . Truly would love to visit there one day.
Thank to sharing history place to us my new friend 🤩well done 👍enjoy ur day n stay connected 🌹
I've never been to Bisbee, but I've walked the streets of Tombstone dressed in period clothing, wearing a hand made gun belt and holster I put together from a pattern obtained from the internet. I carried a Cimmaron Arms 1873 SAA replica.
The first time I went to Tombstone, I could carry just about anywhere, but you did turn your piece over to the bartender if you wanted a beer. On following trips, the laws had changed. I had to check my gear in with a "keeper" if I wanted to enter any establishment.
Given recent court decisions I suspect you'll be able to open and conceal carry with a permit again pretty soon. I temember when I was in high school in the early 1970's I was in Lake Isabella, a very small and isolated town at the end of the road on the north edge of the Mojave Desert and the southern end of the foothills of the Sierra Nevada.. They were having a Lake Isabella Days Festival and biker gangs from all over California were known to be coming to congregate there and bust the town open. The Sheriff and Town Marshal deputized almost every rancher, every local tribal member and the capable townsman to keep the peace. There were more Stetsoned men with holstered pistols, jeans and cowboy boots walking around than I've ever seen before or since. Many were carrying shotguns or carbines. All of their. Pickup trucks on the main streets were guarded by their dogs and had full gun racks. Lots of bikers showed up, but they were the most peaceful folk you'd ever see. They didn't even spit on the street and all the trash went into garbage cans. Very surreal Old West cowboy experience. And I'm descended from families that emigrated to Southern California in the 1800's. Heck, my grandparents were born in LA when it was still a very small town, long before Hollywood. Even the local LA County Sheriff when I was a boy in the early 1960's had pictures of himself from around the time my parents were born in the 1920's being with a horseback posse in cowboy gear carrying lever action rifles and revolvers on horseback to hunt robbers in our lical foothills. The Old West isn't so old. Just get out into the back country and look carefully.
@@brianmccarthy5557 I was living outside San Bernardino, CA, when I was able to visit Tombstone. I now live in Washington state, where I acquired a concealed permit as soon as I was recognized as a resident. Our county sheriff is a Constitutional sheriff, and we all heartily support him. In fact, you see signs on people's private residences thanking him for the work he has done protecting our rights from both state and federal government overreach.
While I lived in California, (30 years), I was always denied a carry permit, even though I have nothing, not even misdemeanors, on my record.
I liked it, I have subscribed and pushed the like button.
Thank you so much and welcome to our channel! 😄
Wow, a Huge Thank You, been to Tombstone, loved the Crystal Palace my self & other soldiers,
just was not aware of the Bisbee Massacre & should have been...
It escaped our knowledge for a good while as well. Really a fascinating story. Wish we could have covered more of it but the video might have been an hour long! 😅
Great video, well done!
Thank you! 😄
Thank you for this video, I found it very well done and well edited. ALSO, as a 60 year old Native of AZ I was surprised of these facts! I mean Dude, I have never heard this before (weird right,???I should have) nope... Never. Thank you for your efforts here, you DEF got a Sub!
Thank you so much! Glenn's going on 20 years as a native here but yeah, neither of us had heard of this event until recently. We were just commenting the other day we don't even remember how it come to our attention but there's a few books that go into further detail about it if you're interested. The book by David Grassé is highly recommended. The guy did a LOT of research into the records of the event.
@@CactusAtlas I'm looking forward to viewing all your vids. Keep them coming! Thanks again for ALL your efforts.
According to 2 newspaper articles in Texas, Heath was buried in Terrell, TX on Feb 28, 1884.
I live on the east side of Mule Mountain and I can only imagine the traffic that went through my little area back in the day
*Awesome* video!
Thank you so much! 😊
@@CactusAtlas
You're welcome!
I've stayed at the Letson B&B and live about 30 min from Bisbee. Wonderful place.
We're hoping to stay there one of these days to complete the experience (so to speak). Just didn't have time the last time.
Thanks for all your research. Great presentation. ~ Jim, Olympia, WA PS: Just subscribed (;-D
Thank you and welcome to our channel! 😄
My grandma’s maiden name is Bisbee, it’s still a popular name up here in North Dakota.
Did not know that! Thanks for sharing that with us. 😄
I lived in Bisbee in 1975-76, while my guy attended Cochise College in Douglas, AZ. I still have and adore the Bisbee Blue jewelry I collected while there. One piece was left for me in lieu of a tip when I worked in the Copper Queen Hotel's Restaurant. Now, that is the place with ghosts!
Wow! That is one heck of a tip! Would have loved to stay at the Copper Queen. Always one day in the future. Would love to hear some of your encounters if you feel like sharing. 😊
I live in Bisbee :) Love the video!!!
Thank you!! 😊
This is my first time seeing your video and i love the content im a wild west amateur historian keep up the great work!!! P.S. You kind of look like another youtuber i watch Adam The Woo ...😉
Well I take that as a big compliment! I’ve been a big fan of Adam for a few years now. Thanks for dropping by and hope to see you again!
Thanks for the visit. We’ve been to both Bisbee and Tombstone, but we were not aware of the Bisbee massacre. Did you visit the Copper Queen Hotel? We stayed there, evidently in a room that we shared with one of the ghosts that haunt the hotel. Might make a good story for you sometime.
We haven't stayed at the Copper Queen, no. Went in the lobby during one trip but have yet to stay there. I think I know the story that you're referring to though. 😊 Might have to schedule a night one of these days.
This is a good veido keep up the good work
Thank you so much!
Great video
Thanks!
Ok the algorithm is getting too scary now, I just took a photo of this tombstone and then saw this recommended on my way home
Haha! Oh that pesky algorithm. Always making us wonder what exactly it knows and is doing. 😂
Glad you got to visit Boot Hill though. It's curious walking around the headstones and trying to imagine who the people were and what lives they lived.
I have been to many of these places by way of a motorcycle because old west history is interesting. I will be hitting the road soon for Gallup,New Mexico . The toughness of the early pioneers is amazing . It brings back a lot of great memories watching you channel. Thanks.
So glad! Agree about the toughness of the early pioneers. Certainly isn't a way of life many can relate to these days. Enjoy your trip to Gallup! 😄👍
This was right before my family showed up there. I'm still glad my grandma moved my dad to Denver. He's the last of the line to be born in Bisbee. I'd still love to visit someday. My dad's like... Why?
Bisbee is a place full of history and interesting things tucked away all over the place. Definitely worth a visit especially if you have family history there. 😄
Excellent.
Very interesting!!!! 👍👍
Thanks for watching!
Nice, well made video
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the visit. 😄
Man I love the look of those old wooden floors, I assume most are original, to think of all the footsteps and boots that crossed and walked on them is fascinating just like walls, if they only could talk?
Stunning.
Thank you
I lived in Old Bisbee for awhile. The history there is amazing.
It really is! We love that area and are always interested in learning new bits of history we're not aware of. 😊 Thanks for stopping by!
Good stuff.... thx
Very interesting.
I’ve been there many times actually I was just thinking of going back this week, to be honest once you’ve seen it a few times it starts to get old. It’s just a little town and it’s not much to do there after you’ve done it all but hey, once a year is fine.
Thanks!
No problem! Thank you so very much as well! We really appreciate it! 😄
Bisbee is a really awesome little town. I live in the little town before it which is a little bigger which is Sierra vista. Tombstone is also a nice little town. Both has lots of history. Being from Sierra vista, Bisbee and Tombstone you have lots of family and friends around.
We love both Bisbee and Tombstone. Just full of history everywhere you turn it seems! 😄
I grew up near there in Sierra Vista and used to travel all around that area on my motorcycle. I haven't been back there for about 40 years now but it is interesting country.
It is! So much history to discover. 😄👍
Wasn't the Lofton Hotel one of the buildings that caught fire earlier this year? I grew up in Bisbee and I was never sure where the massacre took place.
We haven't been there since the fire so I'm not 100% sure of where the damage was precisely, but judging from aerial shots I saw on the news, it almost looked like it was the two business immediately to the right. I would have to imagine the Letson Loft might have sustained some damage.
I lived in Bisbee in the early 80's..there is a lot of history there.
Home of the famous Bisbee Blue Turquoise...beautiful
We've heard about it! Positively beautiful stones. 👍
thank you for this bit of Old West History.
so happy you said hung as lynched is usually reserved for vigelance hangings. guess the last guy did receive viglante justic
Even though the headstone for Heath uses it, not a fan of the word myself given how it's used these days. 😕 Happy to provide a little story telling though! Thanks for checking out our video.
I visited Bisbee for photographic purposes. I believe it was primarily a copper mining town.
Yup! That it was. 😊 We have a video on the town as well.
The Courthouse was the Cochise County Courthouse not the Tombstone Courthouse. The Tombstone City Court was just a block away a couple doors down from C. S. Fly's Photography Studio. Heath was buried in Boot Hill Cemetery, later disinterred and sent to Texas.
Good job
Thanks!
I hated history as a kid. I never learned all the presidents' names like so many of my peers. I grew up in a small, country town in Southern Indiana. However, I've been living in Phoenix for 16 years. I love learning the history of this area (because then, during our daily phone calls, I can tell my 70 year old mom the cool things I've learned).
I love that! 😊 Hopefully she's enjoying the stories as well. Lots of fascinating history from this area too.
Lots of old hippies there.
Haha! Yeah, there's definitely a unique vibe there. We dig it. 😄
@@CactusAtlas spent memorial weekend there, last year. It was I interesting.
Beautiful ✌👍💯
Damn, that totally sucks.
Where’s the trail guides?
My exs family lived in Bisbee.. great little town
Did you feel any ghosts hanging around!
Thank you for taking me to a place I will probably never be able to see. Mob justice is the best justice. Killers feared the people more than they feared the law. Should be noted as our society continues its decline.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching. 👍
If you get a chance to stay at the Red Rock Inn, do so!! Amazing
Noted! Will have to check it out. 👍
@@CactusAtlas it's the red building in the background at the very beginning of the video! The owner and staff are so kind, and it's decorated like no other hotel!
OH! Inn at Castle Rock? That's actually where we stayed during that trip. We show a bit of it in our other Bisbee video. 😄 Very a very enjoyable stay indeed!
Got to Wonder...who was the Judge?? Was there a Court Reporter?? Are there any Trial Transcripts??
Indeed there was a judge - Judge Pinney. And if I recall correctly, there were transcripts but some were lost. A lot of what remains are copies that made it into newspapers around the country. We would have loved to have added more about the court cases themselves but it would have made for far too long of a video. If you're curious, David Grassé's book on the subject. The author went to great lengths to research the events and the detail in the book is amazing.
@@CactusAtlas my late wife and my grand mother were both Court Reporters. My grand mother was a Court Reporter in the 30s. In Chicago. She used to tell us stories about the "Roaring Twenties".
My late wife loved her job so much, she wrote papers on the History of it.
Pretty much Yes to everything. While some records may get damaged in fires, etc. we're not talking the Stone Age. All of this stuff is buried in archives. There are historians who research voluminous European archives over a thousand years old. We not only have a lot of Roman records but an amazing amount of relatively trivial archives evwn from Sumerian and Old Kingdom Egyptian times more than 4,000 years ago. Paycheck stubs, land transfer certificates, tax records, trial transcripts, diplomatic letters, marriage contracts, etc. and more. We keep turning up new stuff. There's lots sitting in storage just waiting translation and publication. I remember in college reading a letter by the Emperor Nero's tutor, the eminent writer Seneca, from about 60 AD bitching about having to drive to his country home in a rainstorm and not having a hot meal when he got home.
Im trying to get information on Bisbee that may sound crazy. I went thru Bisbee for work travel, had no time to spend but remember when travel to and back , I saw religious figures on side of mountains. There were many statues along my drive, in many different spots and high on sides of hill and mountains. Just curious if you know anything about this. Ive been looking for info as it stood out to me as unusual. Thanks for any suggestions on why,
Oh gosh. I'm sorry, I can't say that I've ever noticed anything of the sort in my visit there and I don't remember Glenn mentioning anything of the sort either unfortunately. Hopefully if anyone else sees your comment they will know and share.
Facebook would give you 30 days for showing a photo of a gallows