Do u think a 2017 4runner SR5 PREMIUM 4x4 can make it 10" ground clearance with Falken wildpeak At3w tires 32".... have A-TRAC no lockers but A-TRAC is better then just a rear locker only. I kept up with my 4runner group and they had rear E-lockers
You can see this trail plus our other favorites here in SoCal on our Top Trails videos for both Overlanding Easy and Intermediate, and Favorite Trails in SoCal Easy and Intermediate.
Great video. I’ll admit I was a little hesitant to do Miller Jeep but with a good spotter I was able to make it up both Lockwood and Miller Jeep Trail in my ‘96 XJ (SE) with 2” lift and 29” tires, no armor nor lockers. I sustained a small dent on my bottom quarter panel at 9:30 in the video but that’s my fault for not having rock sliders. Not a big deal; it’s a trail badge. Just take your time, trust your spotter and trust your 4x4. Btw, a Grand Cherokee that was ahead of us busted their axle but I think it was because they had too many passengers weighing the vehicle down. Thankfully, someone in a Bronco was able to pull them up while the WK drove in 2WD. Great trail and really great views up there.
Awesome good video, Josh! Your camera catches the rubber-to-rocks action and you have a few aerial clips that really provide depth and perspective to the outing. That campsite looks phenomenal! And great advice regarding the propane campfire--I bought one early this season after seeing a friends' propane campfire in Ouray last Autumn. They perform extremely well, I've used mine a dozen times this year alone.
Ran this in a 600$ 1993 Mitsubishi Montero on 31 inch tires. Apart from a one inch body lift, the truck was bone stock. Had the most fun from the entire group since it was a cheap truck to mess around with. We had a Jeep with 37 inch tires, and a 6 inch lift and the owner of that Jeep was super pissed his overbuilt money pit was getting its ass handed to it by a rusted Japanese tank.
Offroading is more about the driver than the vehicle. And some of those older vehicles are some of the best. Post up some pictures of your trip on the website. We would love to see them. The link to the pages is in the video description above
you ever think a lifted 2wd locked first gen taco could make it? its got a winch and some good armor and good tires and its weighted pretty good in the back so its got good traction as well. i live right up near there but iv'e never been on that trail.
@@Trailsoffroad I live in Frazier Park but it's been a few years since I've done the trail. I'll be checking out the trail in a couple weeks as long as the gate is open
I did this one solo in my bone stock 2001 TJ Sport ...yep, even with shitty worn GSA' tires on it. No jack,compressor, sliders, recovery gear. I was lucky to make it without damage, but would definately not do it solo again.
The best thing to do is head over to our site and check out the info for yourself. I don't want to steer you wrong. You can find a link to the pages in the video description. If all access, we can get into the details and talk about our opinion there.
Yeah, they were in the middle of flattening it while we were on the trail... We were upset to see this because those little bits of extra challenges really made the trail unique.
Think a 2017 Toyota 4runner SR5 PREMIUM 4x4 with 32" Falken wildpeak At3w tires can make it? Stock 4runner clearance is 9.8" plus the slightly bigger tires
Probably, but 1 the trail is closed for the winter, 2 I would recommend looking at our trail page and getting a better idea of what is on the trail before you do it. The link to the page is up in the video description.
Would a Cherokee kl trailhawk with a 2-in lift (12" at the lowest skid plate) and rock rails running 32s Wrangler duratrac tires be able to take this trail?
Andrew, likely yes. A spotter might help in a couple spots. Log into our website for more details about the trail. www.trailsoffroad.com/trails/1019-miller-jeep-trail-20w06-129
Stop telling people a stock 4x4 with ground clearance can make this trail, it gives the impression that its not that hard, for a seasoned off roader maybe you can get by with a few bumps, but stock wheelers are usually owned by people with little to no off road experience and they are going to get jammed up on that trail. Second Propane fires Still require a fire permit in that area and are NOT legal during EXTREME fire conditions. At least put a disclaimer not to attempt this with no experience and in a group with recovery gear.
Our goal is to provide 100% accuracy on the trails. With that said, we have taken everything from stock pickups, stock FJ Cruisers, and more up this trail without issues. Spotting might be required for the newer drivers but it is possible for them to do it as I have personally taken many new to offroading people up this trail. Now is this trail hard compared to 3N16, you bet it is. Miller is a solid intermediate trail. That is why we provide a lot more details on our website including what we are discussing. You can find the link to the trail page in the video description above if you want to take a look. And we agree, people should never wheel alone, period. We try to stress this a lot. Rule #1 is never wheel alone. #2 is always wear your seatbelt. And you are 100% correct that no fires are allowed during extreme fire conditions. On top of that, to have a propane fire including a camp stove in most places in CA, you have to have a fire permit (Including many of the deserts which many people are not aware of). We are looking at ways to auto populate state rules like this and many others since every state is different. Thank you for watching.
Wonder if stock 2017 4runner can make it. Ground clearance is 9.6 stock but have 32" tires...so probably 10" clearance wonder if it can make this trail. And the 4runner's come with skid plates. So just need rock sliders .
Hey David, you might be surprised on this trail. Rock sliders do make it safe but we have taken many stock vehicles through this trail. Now note: our crew is extremely experienced, and taking stock vehicles on trails way past their capability is normal for us. With that said, check out the site at the link below. If you have some really good spotters, you will likely be fine. If not, might want to wait to you get those sliders. www.trailsoffroad.com/trails/1019-miller-jeep-trail-20w06-129
A couple of reasons. It increases the ability of the front axle to travel further independent of the opposite tire increasing stability when articulated, and also helps increase the traction of the front axle.
Did the Lockwood Creek Trail but started up by Frazier Mountain Rd on my stock 4Runner, went off-trail by mistake and but the truck powered through with no issues! Can share my gaia route with those interested in running the trail.
@@Trailsoffroad it was a short period where I went off-trail. I didn't do it intentionally I would actually like to use the example to highlight the importance of a proper offline map. I used my Gaia app to get me back on track and continued successfully :)
Where is the area? California has a lot of physical clubs that meet once a month or you can look at online clubs through facebook or some of other platforms.
There is a off-road club in Ventura, you will have to look them up. I believe Genright also does some events not far from you and that would be another good place to meet people to wheel with.
This is a great overland trail in SoCal, what are some of your favorite overland trails? (Link to the trail reviews above in the information)
Bring on the Dusy
Do u think a 2017 4runner SR5 PREMIUM 4x4 can make it 10" ground clearance with Falken wildpeak At3w tires 32".... have A-TRAC no lockers but A-TRAC is better then just a rear locker only. I kept up with my 4runner group and they had rear E-lockers
This is a great little trail close to home... One of the reasons why it makes my Top 5 trails in SoCal in so many of my videos.
You can see this trail plus our other favorites here in SoCal on our Top Trails videos for both Overlanding Easy and Intermediate, and Favorite Trails in SoCal Easy and Intermediate.
another interesting video. glad to see dog smiling, he's happier when the roads are rough.
He is a good trail dog
Great video as was the narration. Camping at the end was the finishing touch.
Thank you Dennis
Great weekend trip! As always Josh shared his exellent trail and guide skills. The next trip can't get here soon enough!
We are looking forward to seeing that new Jeep on the trail.
Love the video! Great info, super fun clips, and of course....the memories of being there. Thank you!
Thank you Jennings, we are looking forward to our next adventure.
Thanks for the tip on a propane fire pit. I found one half off at the grocery store and snapped it up for our next camping adventure. Loved the video!
A must-have for SoCal
Another great video. I love the trail.
Thank you Ron
Nice! Did this trail in a Crosstrek 2 years ago, had jeep guys staring me down everytime they pass me
Nice... How was the trail?
@@Trailsoffroad my mistake wrong trail, i did the one at the end of this trail, ontop of the mountain that exits into gorman
Great video. I’ll admit I was a little hesitant to do Miller Jeep but with a good spotter I was able to make it up both Lockwood and Miller Jeep Trail in my ‘96 XJ (SE) with 2” lift and 29” tires, no armor nor lockers. I sustained a small dent on my bottom quarter panel at 9:30 in the video but that’s my fault for not having rock sliders. Not a big deal; it’s a trail badge. Just take your time, trust your spotter and trust your 4x4. Btw, a Grand Cherokee that was ahead of us busted their axle but I think it was because they had too many passengers weighing the vehicle down. Thankfully, someone in a Bronco was able to pull them up while the WK drove in 2WD. Great trail and really great views up there.
Awesome story... If you took pictures, please log into our website and share them with us in the trip reports.
Awesome good video, Josh! Your camera catches the rubber-to-rocks action and you have a few aerial clips that really provide depth and perspective to the outing. That campsite looks phenomenal! And great advice regarding the propane campfire--I bought one early this season after seeing a friends' propane campfire in Ouray last Autumn. They perform extremely well, I've used mine a dozen times this year alone.
Ran this in a 600$ 1993 Mitsubishi Montero on 31 inch tires. Apart from a one inch body lift, the truck was bone stock. Had the most fun from the entire group since it was a cheap truck to mess around with. We had a Jeep with 37 inch tires, and a 6 inch lift and the owner of that Jeep was super pissed his overbuilt money pit was getting its ass handed to it by a rusted Japanese tank.
Offroading is more about the driver than the vehicle. And some of those older vehicles are some of the best. Post up some pictures of your trip on the website. We would love to see them. The link to the pages is in the video description above
Great Video! Your narration and detail were were outstanding!! Gonna make that trail my next trip. SUBSCRIBED. Thanks
Make sure you log into the website and post up a trip report. Link is in the description.
Anybody going out labor day weekend
@@davidbushey5066 I am willing to bet there will be a lot of people out there
Thank You for an informative video..
Thank you for watching
My bone stock ZR2 just finished this trail yesterday with our group
Post up pictures on our website... We would love to see them.
I know old video great trails. I need to get more involved in the website! Cheers
Sounds good
you ever think a lifted 2wd locked first gen taco could make it? its got a winch and some good armor and good tires and its weighted pretty good in the back so its got good traction as well. i live right up near there but iv'e never been on that trail.
Your best bet is to head over to the website and review the trail guide. The link is above in the video description.
Cool stuff. Nice Blue FJ following you too! ;)
FJ's are awesome vehicles.
Is Very Nice The Trail👍
Thank you for watching
I did this in a stock fj cruiser. I agree with at least my car at the time rock sliders are a must for that hill 9 min in and at leat 1.5 in lift.
did you just the trail?
@@Trailsoffroad I live in Frazier Park but it's been a few years since I've done the trail. I'll be checking out the trail in a couple weeks as long as the gate is open
I did this one solo in my bone stock 2001 TJ Sport ...yep, even with shitty worn GSA' tires on it. No jack,compressor, sliders, recovery gear. I was lucky to make it without damage, but would definately not do it solo again.
Yeah, it is doable in a stock vehicle. Just not easy. Thank you for watching.
So is this about 4 hours up, camp then go down the next day?
about. Going down is easy as you keep going and it drops you into hungry valley. (All dirt roads going down)
I Dirt bike on these trails and have a ram power wagon. How did the full size pick up don going up the "Steep Climb" on lockwood?
The best thing to do is head over to our site and check out the info for yourself. I don't want to steer you wrong. You can find a link to the pages in the video description. If all access, we can get into the details and talk about our opinion there.
Since you filmed this vid they completely flattened the Lockwood part
Yeah, they were in the middle of flattening it while we were on the trail... We were upset to see this because those little bits of extra challenges really made the trail unique.
Think a 2017 Toyota 4runner SR5 PREMIUM 4x4 with 32" Falken wildpeak At3w tires can make it? Stock 4runner clearance is 9.8" plus the slightly bigger tires
Most likely, check out the website for more details. Link is in the description.
Can a stock 2022 Chevy Colorado ZR2 run this trail? Thanks!
Probably, but 1 the trail is closed for the winter, 2 I would recommend looking at our trail page and getting a better idea of what is on the trail before you do it. The link to the page is up in the video description.
Would a Cherokee kl trailhawk with a 2-in lift (12" at the lowest skid plate) and rock rails running 32s Wrangler duratrac tires be able to take this trail?
Andrew, likely yes. A spotter might help in a couple spots. Log into our website for more details about the trail. www.trailsoffroad.com/trails/1019-miller-jeep-trail-20w06-129
Stop telling people a stock 4x4 with ground clearance can make this trail, it gives the impression that its not that hard, for a seasoned off roader maybe you can get by with a few bumps, but stock wheelers are usually owned by people with little to no off road experience and they are going to get jammed up on that trail. Second Propane fires Still require a fire permit in that area and are NOT legal during EXTREME fire conditions. At least put a disclaimer not to attempt this with no experience and in a group with recovery gear.
Our goal is to provide 100% accuracy on the trails. With that said, we have taken everything from stock pickups, stock FJ Cruisers, and more up this trail without issues. Spotting might be required for the newer drivers but it is possible for them to do it as I have personally taken many new to offroading people up this trail. Now is this trail hard compared to 3N16, you bet it is. Miller is a solid intermediate trail. That is why we provide a lot more details on our website including what we are discussing. You can find the link to the trail page in the video description above if you want to take a look.
And we agree, people should never wheel alone, period. We try to stress this a lot. Rule #1 is never wheel alone. #2 is always wear your seatbelt.
And you are 100% correct that no fires are allowed during extreme fire conditions. On top of that, to have a propane fire including a camp stove in most places in CA, you have to have a fire permit (Including many of the deserts which many people are not aware of). We are looking at ways to auto populate state rules like this and many others since every state is different.
Thank you for watching.
Wonder if stock 2017 4runner can make it. Ground clearance is 9.6 stock but have 32" tires...so probably 10" clearance wonder if it can make this trail. And the 4runner's come with skid plates. So just need rock sliders .
Hey David, you might be surprised on this trail. Rock sliders do make it safe but we have taken many stock vehicles through this trail. Now note: our crew is extremely experienced, and taking stock vehicles on trails way past their capability is normal for us. With that said, check out the site at the link below. If you have some really good spotters, you will likely be fine. If not, might want to wait to you get those sliders.
www.trailsoffroad.com/trails/1019-miller-jeep-trail-20w06-129
Just wondering, when are you all thinking of going? We are thinking about running up there here soon. Likely just a day trip but not sure right now.
That 4Runner will go anywhere you point it in, just be smart about it and you’re all clear
Josh can you do this trail without lockers?
i think im going to do this trail.. JKUR with 35s & 2.5in lift and 4.56 gears.. oil pan/trans skids, stock rubi rails make it thru ok?
You should be fine
But before going, check out the website to get details so you know what to expect. The link is in the description.
A bit new to off roading but..... lol why would you disconnect the sway bar?
A couple of reasons. It increases the ability of the front axle to travel further independent of the opposite tire increasing stability when articulated, and also helps increase the traction of the front axle.
@@Trailsoffroad Oh nice! Thank you for the tip. I'll definitely give it a shot next time I'm out.
Did you use lockers for this trail.
The answers to your questions and a lot more are on our site. The link to this trail is in the description.
2wd friendly ?
No, head over to our website for more details on this trail. The link is in the video description above.
Has anyone done this trail in a stock Tacoma ?
yeah, a lot of people. It is just not easy. For more information on the trail, check out our website.
Did the Lockwood Creek Trail but started up by Frazier Mountain Rd on my stock 4Runner, went off-trail by mistake and but the truck powered through with no issues! Can share my gaia route with those interested in running the trail.
The area is a national forest. I wouldn't recommend sharing a off-route trail.
@@Trailsoffroad it was a short period where I went off-trail. I didn't do it intentionally I would actually like to use the example to highlight the importance of a proper offline map. I used my Gaia app to get me back on track and continued successfully :)
I am getting back into four wheel driving great video awesome locations
Thank you Alfonso
Brother. May i do this trail with a jeep wrangler sport 2 doors. Without modifications?
We have done this trail many times stock. But it would be wise to have someone with experience with you all just in case.
Just did this trail and man it looks Soo different that second obstacle is now like a 5 ft drop
yeah, post up a trip review on our website. Share any photos or video if you have any. Link in the description above
Just moved to the area, I have a JLUR and wanting to go on some trails. Do you have any groups you could recommend I join ?
Where is the area? California has a lot of physical clubs that meet once a month or you can look at online clubs through facebook or some of other platforms.
Ventura County
There is a off-road club in Ventura, you will have to look them up. I believe Genright also does some events not far from you and that would be another good place to meet people to wheel with.