The people at K@G always do good research man. I legit go here over every other historical publication, then I do some more research myself on what they publish. I have yet to come across inaccuracies, in fact they state if some is inaccurate. They are super thorough. I love them. lol jk
It is not unexpected. When the topic is about Turkey, nobody knows well enough about us. Huge misinformations and even propagandas... Most people know that Ottomans send food to Ireland in famine but very few people know Turkey's role in the Great Famine in Greece. Everybody says that Turks came and destroyed christian churches in Constantinople but noone knows about the two restorations on Hagia Sophia made by Ottomans architects :D
@@l.jboylan6704 The Byzantine empire, successor to the Roman empire in the east that ruled Greece and the Anatolian peninsula through the middle ages, was known for it's shifty, chaotic internal politics, instability and dense layers of bureaucracy. Saying something is Byzantine means it's full of intrigue and scheming.
@@enesozenli2397 menderes was a traitor. He closed national factories and made country dependant on USA. git araştır öğren biraz, boşa asılmadı menderes.
@@egesahin2498 Can you you tell us about your credentials? Sen kendini ne zannediyorsun da şu kişi haindir diye kesin sonuçlara varıp burada ahkam kesiyorsun? Ondan mı Kütahya'nın Tavşanlı İlçesinde senelerce Adnan Menderes Bulvarında yürüdüm ben?
Perhaps this video should be re-titled as "events leading to the 1960 coup d`etat on Turkey ". While all the background is nice, I'd like to know what happened, who was involved, and how things played out during the actual event.
Do you want to see an army occupation or something so you are satisfied with the video?He basically has explained why the coup d"etat has happened by leaning towards a lot of the historical elements that were directly or indirectly related to the turkish politics.
@@biterness2323 And he has made a masterful recount of the prelude to the occupation. No question about that. But the title leads the viewer to think the actual occupation will be discussed. However, the players and events during the occupation are not discussed in detail. The comment is not intended as a criticism of the video itself. I just note that a title that accurately describes the content of the video is a considerate way of helping viewers find what they are looking for.
coup was a junta of colonels and not conducted in full chain of command. only one general supported them as far as i know. however it was succesfull. prime minister adnan menderes was hanged by the junta. despite this, sucessor political parties of DP (Menderes' party) still managed to gain majority in the new elections, even up to this day.
I agree. This is unfortunately a recurrent problem of this channel, the same happened with the Iranian coup: two videos for the background, two minutes for the coup itself...
Turkey fascinates me as a sort of fusion between modern Western, modern secular Middle Eastern, Turkic, and Islamic culture, not to mention all the Roman, Greek, and Persian influences in there too, among others. Thank you for this interesting episode! God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
@@FreedomFox1 I know about that but there must be something bad meaning while he is referring it according to where the sentences are. This reference was that I did not get it until omer's reply. Thank you both!
@@furkankurtoglu_sys_bio Oh I see. The figurative meaning is usually to describe something that is overly complicated. This is a reference to Byzantium's complicated beurocracy, which it was known for.
I was thinking coup of 1980 was more important in sense of cold war(getting rid of all communisim sympathisers in the country) but thank you for covering this too
Firstly, thanks for covering this Turkey-special video. I will be waiting for the rest. And a minor detail I would like to express: Prohibiton of Arabic Ezan came into effect in *1932* rather than 38.
@@resentfuldragon It's not haram. Some Arabic thinkers claim call to prayer has to be said in Arabic but it's not even in the Qur'an. Do you think Allah, who has created everything beyond time and space, can't understand any other language than Arabic? It doesn't matter in which language you pray or call to prayer, it is only with taqwa that you can get closer to him.
@@sercancelenk7131 Its haram because its a bid'ah. A bid'ah is an innovation in Islam which never existed, which is explicitly haram to do. You can't invent something then say its fine because Islam was made complete by the end of the Prophet (SAW)'s life, you can't do anything for ajar that is completely new. For example: Saying adhan or salah not in arabic is a bid'ah because this was never allowed or done in the time of the Prophet (SAW) Being a pilot is halal because it is not being done as a religious action, even though planes didn't exist back then.
You finished the video at a damn good time for who doesnt know end of the democratic party and the leaders of the party. Its like a commertial break after a very exciting film or something :D
Gotta say that while I love this channel so far, clickbait titles with videos that do not contain what is in the title makes me love it less. Words have meaning, you can't just throw any title on any video. 13 minutes wasted and I still know almost nothing of the Turkish coup of 1960.
The coup of 27th May 1960 was made by a group of officers, against the minister of defence and the chiefs of statt. the coup makers made retired general cemal gürsel as the head of a national unity committee ruled by 30 army generals and officers. after a public trial, prime minister adnan menderes , foreign minister fatin rüstü zorlu and hasan polatkan were hanged after sentenced to death by a military judge. it was a coup against the authoritarian rule of the Democratic Party leadership who in his last 2 years ordered the army to shoot protesting students, trying to close down the only opposition party in the parliament which were considered as crimes against the state. also the than prime minister adnan menderes was planning to visit the soviet union to ask for an credit after the USA denied him further credits. the coup just happened a week before this planned visit. The coupmakers announced their obligation to the NATO and CENTO treaties.
Thanks for the great video but you'd talk about many things but the coup d'etat itself & even hanging of Menderes :) It'd better have a second part @The Cold War
Are you going to make a video on the Greek civil war? You keep mentioning it very often in your videos... Its was the very first cold war conflict... You could also do the Greek Military Coup (Hounta) of the 1967...a rather contrevetial topic in modern Greek history...
A CIA founded Turkish intelligent office (MIT) joke: Many intelligence offices from the western world joined a search and kidnapp exercise in a jungle forest. They were all searching for a giraffe with their high tech and professional investigation skills. Yet the Turks came back with an all beaten up elephant shouting: "I am a giraffe". 😁
The Istanbul Pogrom of September 1955 was passed over - an attack on Greeks in Istanbul, but Armenians and Jews were also targeted. It was a DP plan to use chauvinism against non-Muslims.
Wow, didn't expected Turkey suffers the coup during cold war. How about the next video would be Indonesia during Cold War ? Because what I got during my highschool days either lack of enough information or altered by New Order Regime (the effects still happens today). Thank you sir, keep it up !
@@affandi99 Well, there is one more in 1970. It is not a complete takeover by the military but they overthrew the government, made the laws more authoritarian. There are 3 failed coup attempts as well between 1960 and 1980
Joseph Ybarra Assad is a dictator who only serves alawite arabs. Sunni arabs were systematically bombed, raped and killed. We didnt attack but created lebensraum for the innocent.
When will you talk about indonesia? It's seems like minor nation in the south east asia, but it's role it's quite important in the region, especially decolonization of south east asia. And also cold war played important role for Indonesia.
@@_ba0_ There will always be a crisis with Turkey.. In a few years they will invade our islands.. I HOPE I am wrong, but history has shown again and again they are warmongering thieves and murderers..
@@NickStrife How many wars have we started for last three centuries? We have been defensive for a long time now. We are not warmongerin thieves WTF?! And relax, Turkey does not plan to invade your islands. Your media just loves creating enemies that your politicians can exploit. And ours do that too sadly. And as for Cyprus if you mean that, we had to intervene because Turks were being murdered.
And also keep in mind that it was not Turkey who invaded Greece. But Greeks tried to invade Turkey getting near to Ankara before their defeat. during their retreat looting and pillaging everything in their way. Who's warmongering thieves here?
@@_ba0_ "Greeks tried to invade Turkey" When? In reality, what you call "Turkey" is in part occupied Greek lands... We've been in Anatolia way longer than you, but somehow this is "Turkey" now?? Ahahahaha! Also, you had no legitimate business in Cyprus.. Take your Turkish propaganda elsewhere.. Most Greeks were getting along with the Turkish MINORITY just fine.. The actions of a small right-wing extremist terrorist group does not excuse your prolonged ILLEGAL occupation of North Cyprus.. Let alone alone your ILLLEGAL colonisation of North Cyprus..
"This pro-western stance even went so far as Turkish recognition of the state of Israel" The Secular Republic of Turkey never had problems with the state of Israel nor with its creation. The problems between the two countries began after Islamists came to power in Turkey (2002). Turkey officially still is a secular country but ruled by a bunch of reactionary authoritarian Islamists since then. Secular Turks don't have a problem with Israel. Seemingly secular Turks who dislike the state of Israel are those ones with bigoted "socialist" dogmatic beliefs. Islamists and most conservative muslims are naturally anti-Semitic by their religion and ideologies. I hope after the current islamist government in Turkey is gone (which is declining day-to-day), relations between Turkey and Israel will be fine again.
It is completely and unequivocally incorrect to call those against israel anti-semitic. Zionism is an ideology shared by many groups of non-jews as well, and those against zionism includes jews. Furthermore the problem with israel isn’t religious even for the muslims. israel is a colonial state that has committed and continues to commit many crimes against civilians. It is completely incorrect to mischaracterize being pro-palestine and Islam as a whole as anti-semitic. Infact a quick look at places like somalia will show large groups of jews who are muslim!
So he tricked them into that. Check out what he deserved after all: - A soft transition after the death of a great, idolic leader. - Managed to stay safe during a world war just by belly dancing around. - Declared war against losing side and get the best out of this. - Managed transition of power to a ruling class to another; WILLINGLY and peacefully. *(That alone requires huuuuuuuuuuge ballz mate, those two you mentioned couldn't achieved that) - Managed to keep his nerve against a long provocative campaign against him. - Eluded a coup d'etat. - Eluded another coup d'etat, again. You can mould those guyz together and create just a wig for Inonu. That guy certainly was a shrewed one and out smarted them.
Near-famine in urban areas. A satirical magazine showed a picture of a female teacher recommending to school pupils that they eat fruit. The pupils stare at the fruit hungrily - it is clearly not something they can easily buy or eat.
You have some mistakes. The adhan was translated in Turkish. Between 1932-1950 the adhan was Turkish in Turkiye. After the elections new government has led its Arabic version.
During the Second World War, Turkey, although having declared neutrality, concentrated 29 divisions on the Soviet-Turkish border. Had the Soviets lost the Stalingrad battle, Turks would attack.
My favorite part of this whole videos of the very beginning when he describes a politics as Byzantine when talking about Turkey the civilization that took over the Byzantine Empire anime are the last people to claim the title of emperor of the Romans
Didn't Turkey declare war near the very end to be considered neutral? That's like saying something is stale, because you ate it 1 hour after expiration date.
can you make a video on Indonesia? i believe things like Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI), Sukarno's Guided Democracy, and the 30th September Movement shouldn't be missed in this channel.
Wow I never knew Turkey sent troops to the Korean War. Here in the US they only talk of us war heroes lol and North Korean and China aggression and the US protecting the “little guy” which indirectly led to South Korea being dependent on the US decades afterwards.
I was just curious how you made the relation between the coup of 60 and the Cold War and yes you didnt. THANKS GOD lol Its the coup of 80 that can be linked to the Cold War circusmstances.
Sorry, but you need to do a better job in vetting your news reel footage. You show pre-war Soviet tanks while talking about post war events. I believe you also showed German torpedo-boat and submarine footage while talking about Soviets. In another video you showed WWI tanks when talking post WWII.
hahaha little brother !!! usa staged the coups that devastated turkiye since60 years and now it supports pkk and terrorists against turkiye usa never saved turkiye from any evil us the source of evil to turkiye
Paradoxically the 1960 coup reversed the authoritarian tendencies of the government and the army quickly returned to the barracks, even though Menderes and two others were executed. The 1980 coup meant the army controlled the country directly for several years, designed an authoritarian constitution that persisted after a formal return to civilian rule, and wrote into it immunity for the coup leaders like Kenan Evren. Even the AKP government made a lot of noise about lifting Evren's immunity but never actually did. Good films about the 1980 aftermath are Yol (The Road), (1982) about four prisoners temporarily released from jail and their different fates, and Eve Dönüs (Return Home) (2006) about a worker arrested after the coup by police who mistake him for a left-wing gunman. He is tortured by police until they discover they have the wrong man. (There is a suggestion that his pious Islamist landlord denounced him as someone suspicious to the cops in revenge for his rent arrears.) The police let him go but one warns him on the street to say nothing about what happened to him. He learns from a newspaper that a fellow detainee is dead - the newspaper says he was a terrorist killed in a shoot-out but it is clear he was killed while in detention. The worker sits in a café. Two other men in the café mutter about that "Communist" over there that got arrested. Then police come and tell the two to come with them to the police station. They say, "But there must be some mistake." The film ends there, but indicates nobody in the coup period was entirely safe...
I am seriously questioning "the Byzantine international diplomatic bla bla" thing. What the hell is that? Is the west called Byzantine by some people or what? If so, it is just wrong. Byzantine is the east. We are Byzantine, not Europe or America.
Byzantine definition: 1. Relating to Byzantium (now Istanbul), the Byzantine Empire, or the Eastern Orthodox Church. 2. (of a system or situation) excessively complicated, and typically involving a great deal of administrative detail.
@@TheColdWarTV You said "Turkey was quickly drawn into the Byzantine international politics of the post-war era." Turkey was trying to get integrated to western politics in order to find a protection. There is literally no relation between international politics in 50s and Byzantine. Is this a technical term in international politics or did you just make it up? Because neither Turkey's political efforts nor western conjuncture was grounding on Byzantine style administration and diplomacy. They were political actions that come from current needs.
Yes, that is what we said. And based on the second definition, it means "Turkey was quickly drawn into the excessively complicated international politics of the post-war era."
@@TheColdWarTV Sorry but i still can't see any reason to call this complicated political situation as Byzantine. But i don't see any need to continue to this argument as well. Thanks and good day :)
The video is only for events, this is wrong. People are in the foreground, not institutions in Turkish Political History. I hope you talk about very important political leaders such as Süleyman Demirel, İsmet İnönü, Bülent Ecevit and Necmettin Erbakan in the next video. steps of these leaders created the present-day Turkey.
Why was the Turkish military secular? Weren't it's individual soldiers an officers just normal people who might not have secular views on politics? Thanks!
Atatürk is the founder of Turkey and he is the one who make Turkey a secular country. so all of the military person were following his order and adore him at the time. its still kinda same today but weaker because of the current goverment.
It's called "purge". All dictators ensure that their armed forces follow their particular ideology. Ataturk purged the islamic orthodoxy out of the army just like Erdogan purged secularism out of his.
I heard many Turk soldiers lost their jobs cuz their wives wear scarfs etc. Strange times, i don't think any Muslim soldier had such harsh experience while serving under European military. Turkish version of secularism is quite opposite to what usually we witness (freedom/equality blah blah). It looks closer to Nazism or communism
@@AHSANALI-tb3hs actually quite the opposite. The islamic orthodoxy Erdogan had revived is what looks like totalitarism. Before the reign of Erdogan Turkey was on a good secular way. Europeans even considered Turkey to be ready to join the EU. All this is gone now. Because of this damn religious fanatism combined with ugly nationalism. Ataturk knew how toxic the islamic religion is. Many in the West dont. Which explains certain paradoxons like the one u mentioned.
One further interesting note: In order stabilize the turkish weak economy, reduce social pressure and thereby strenghen its important NATO ally in a region of immense strategic importance, the US pushed Germany to accept the so called "Gastarbeiter" deal of the 1960s: accepting the migration of thousands of unskilled worked despite of no economical need and desite of seeing social problems in the future. The unpleasant consequences of this deal can be seen and felt still today.
You mean to completely exclude the fact that Germany had no manpower for its factories? It had just been 15 years since the 2nd world war. Germany needed any manpower it could get (Ontop of half of Germany being under the Soviet Sphere of influence). Quite literally Germany had lost around 30% of its working population. It needed people. This comment is ridiculous and quite racist I think.
@@msc7594 no, it did not need that manpower. The historical sources are absolutely clear about this. What was needed was sufficiently supplied by Western European countries.
I didn't know much about Turkey during the Cold War, or even during World War 2, so this was rather informative.
The people at K@G always do good research man. I legit go here over every other historical publication, then I do some more research myself on what they publish. I have yet to come across inaccuracies, in fact they state if some is inaccurate. They are super thorough. I love them. lol jk
It is not unexpected. When the topic is about Turkey, nobody knows well enough about us. Huge misinformations and even propagandas... Most people know that Ottomans send food to Ireland in famine but very few people know Turkey's role in the Great Famine in Greece. Everybody says that Turks came and destroyed christian churches in Constantinople but noone knows about the two restorations on Hagia Sophia made by Ottomans architects :D
The video was pretty simplified and lacked many key points.
@@sarubet8725 what do you mean?
Turkey drawn to Byzantine politics? Huh where have I seen this before?
what does byzantine politics mean?
@@l.jboylan6704 The Byzantine empire, successor to the Roman empire in the east that ruled Greece and the Anatolian peninsula through the middle ages, was known for it's shifty, chaotic internal politics, instability and dense layers of bureaucracy. Saying something is Byzantine means it's full of intrigue and scheming.
@@gabrielinostroza4989 Great explanation
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@@gabrielinostroza4989 I've also heard the Byzantine Empire used diplomacy like a weapon in ways not seen until the modern age.
You didn't talk about coup itself?
nice clickbait
He vaguely did.Coup is was a direct response to the treacherous acts of Adnan Menderes against the secularist ideals of the republic.
@@biterness2323 That is your subjective idea not a fact. Not everyone in Turkey thinks like that about Menderes.
@@enesozenli2397 menderes was a traitor. He closed national factories and made country dependant on USA. git araştır öğren biraz, boşa asılmadı menderes.
@@egesahin2498 Can you you tell us about your credentials? Sen kendini ne zannediyorsun da şu kişi haindir diye kesin sonuçlara varıp burada ahkam kesiyorsun? Ondan mı Kütahya'nın Tavşanlı İlçesinde senelerce Adnan Menderes Bulvarında yürüdüm ben?
Perhaps this video should be re-titled as "events leading to the 1960 coup d`etat on Turkey ". While all the background is nice, I'd like to know what happened, who was involved, and how things played out during the actual event.
agreed
Do you want to see an army occupation or something so you are satisfied with the video?He basically has explained why the coup d"etat has happened by leaning towards a lot of the historical elements that were directly or indirectly related to the turkish politics.
@@biterness2323 And he has made a masterful recount of the prelude to the occupation. No question about that. But the title leads the viewer to think the actual occupation will be discussed. However, the players and events during the occupation are not discussed in detail.
The comment is not intended as a criticism of the video itself. I just note that a title that accurately describes the content of the video is a considerate way of helping viewers find what they are looking for.
coup was a junta of colonels and not conducted in full chain of command. only one general supported them as far as i know. however it was succesfull. prime minister adnan menderes was hanged by the junta. despite this, sucessor political parties of DP (Menderes' party) still managed to gain majority in the new elections, even up to this day.
I agree. This is unfortunately a recurrent problem of this channel, the same happened with the Iranian coup: two videos for the background, two minutes for the coup itself...
Turkey fascinates me as a sort of fusion between modern Western, modern secular Middle Eastern, Turkic, and Islamic culture, not to mention all the Roman, Greek, and Persian influences in there too, among others. Thank you for this interesting episode!
God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
Makes title Coup d'état yet never says anything about it until the end
Maybe this topic would be a series?
The title is turkey and coup I mean it sure does look like he wants to talk about both of em
Yeah its like a suspense... TO BE CONTINUED
Turkeys military coups in the cold war era are at 27th may 1960, 12th march 1971 and 12th september 1980
This channel has just kept churning out quality material for almost a year now. Keep it up boys; I'm eagerly awaiting videos on Vietnam!
Interesting video. But will you do a video about the greek civil war?
He's been mentioning it in almost every video, but he STILL ISN'T MAKING A VIDEO ON IT!!!
Pay debt first
@@lamolambda8349 😂😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣
Only time would tell my friend.
He already made a video about it
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Your Videos keep geting better!!! Great job
You keep mentioning the greek civil war, you should do an catch up episode on it.
Which one?? Cause after WWII, we had like 15 coops..! :D
@@NickStrife wtf
How?
@@Hungeryan Greeks were, are and will be divided as people...... Google how many coups Greece had during the 20th century.. You will understand...
@Ulysses strange I never said "civil wars" I said coups...... You know "πραξικοπήματα"..
Nice video! I watched with pleasure!
Turkey caught in byzantine politics. Ironic.
our region is cursed for that
What region exactly man?
Can you please make a video on Juan Peron. Thank you very much.
Byzantine... I see what you did there!
Hi, can you explain what does he mean there? I think I did not get it. Thank you very much, in advance!
@@furkankurtoglu_sys_bio The Ottoman Turks conquered the Byzantine Empire. (Istanbul used to be Constantinople, etc.)
@@omerfaruk-qg8ez I see, thanks!
@@FreedomFox1 I know about that but there must be something bad meaning while he is referring it according to where the sentences are. This reference was that I did not get it until omer's reply. Thank you both!
@@furkankurtoglu_sys_bio Oh I see. The figurative meaning is usually to describe something that is overly complicated. This is a reference to Byzantium's complicated beurocracy, which it was known for.
11:52 Whoa, that was a sudden change in musical tone.
Another great report. Thank you. Keep up the good work.
I was thinking coup of 1980 was more important in sense of cold war(getting rid of all communisim sympathisers in the country) but thank you for covering this too
How many coups did you guys have?
@@greekcommie621 I mean... us greeks had our fair share of coups until the mid 70s.
@@greekcommie621 1960, 1980 and there are some attempts and riots too in the military.
@@greekcommie621 there was a coup even in Ottoman time in 1913 and some attempts too.
@@alextheo9766 we had only 1 after ww2 though.
Firstly, thanks for covering this Turkey-special video. I will be waiting for the rest. And a minor detail I would like to express: Prohibiton of Arabic Ezan came into effect in *1932* rather than 38.
Its really sad that happened, it was a law that did nothing but cause problems and it is haram to do the adhan in other languages.
@@resentfuldragon It's not haram. Some Arabic thinkers claim call to prayer has to be said in Arabic but it's not even in the Qur'an. Do you think Allah, who has created everything beyond time and space, can't understand any other language than Arabic? It doesn't matter in which language you pray or call to prayer, it is only with taqwa that you can get closer to him.
@@sercancelenk7131 Its haram because its a bid'ah.
A bid'ah is an innovation in Islam which never existed, which is explicitly haram to do.
You can't invent something then say its fine because Islam was made complete by the end of the Prophet (SAW)'s life, you can't do anything for ajar that is completely new.
For example:
Saying adhan or salah not in arabic is a bid'ah because this was never allowed or done in the time of the Prophet (SAW)
Being a pilot is halal because it is not being done as a religious action, even though planes didn't exist back then.
@@resentfuldragon yeah still makes no sense to me. My only guide is Qur’an. That’s it. I don’t care about any other things.
“…drawn into the *Byzantine* international politics of the postwar era.”
I see what you did there. :)
Thanks
You finished the video at a damn good time for who doesnt know end of the democratic party and the leaders of the party. Its like a commertial break after a very exciting film or something :D
Interesting video. Didn't know this happened at all. My compliments to those who made this video a reality.
Perhaps the video would be retitled turkey after ww2 as it don't talk about 1960 coup itself
Amazing
Turkey's growth is impressive
Gotta say that while I love this channel so far, clickbait titles with videos that do not contain what is in the title makes me love it less. Words have meaning, you can't just throw any title on any video. 13 minutes wasted and I still know almost nothing of the Turkish coup of 1960.
The coup of 27th May 1960 was made by a group of officers, against the minister of defence and the chiefs of statt. the coup makers made retired general cemal gürsel as the head of a national unity committee ruled by 30 army generals and officers. after a public trial, prime minister adnan menderes , foreign minister fatin rüstü zorlu and hasan polatkan were hanged after sentenced to death by a military judge. it was a coup against the authoritarian rule of the Democratic Party leadership who in his last 2 years ordered the army to shoot protesting students, trying to close down the only opposition party in the parliament which were considered as crimes against the state. also the than prime minister adnan menderes was planning to visit the soviet union to ask for an credit after the USA denied him further credits. the coup just happened a week before this planned visit. The coupmakers announced their obligation to the NATO and CENTO treaties.
@@emrealtinbas9688 Thanks you for your very informative comment! Now I finally know more about the 1960 coup!
@@emrealtinbas9688 thanks a lot mate.
Could you please do a video on the greek military regime from 67-74
Greek civil war first
Thanks for the great video but you'd talk about many things but the coup d'etat itself & even hanging of Menderes :) It'd better have a second part @The Cold War
Can you make a video for Greece next?
Are you going to make a video on the Greek civil war? You keep mentioning it very often in your videos... Its was the very first cold war conflict... You could also do the Greek Military Coup (Hounta) of the 1967...a rather contrevetial topic in modern Greek history...
A CIA founded Turkish intelligent office (MIT) joke:
Many intelligence offices from the western world joined a search and kidnapp exercise in a jungle forest. They were all searching for a giraffe with their high tech and professional investigation skills. Yet the Turks came back with an all beaten up elephant shouting: "I am a giraffe". 😁
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I wish you guys could submit the sources you used for this video. They would be wonderful to use as sources in history essays!
Try to keep track of all the alliances, organizations and treaties that show up. I guarantee it is impossible.
The Istanbul Pogrom of September 1955 was passed over - an attack on Greeks in Istanbul, but Armenians and Jews were also targeted. It was a DP plan to use chauvinism against non-Muslims.
kaczynski S Ya, I remember reading about it
kaczynski Just stop with your bullshit
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_pogrom
Will you talk about Axis POWs in Western Allied countries?
Wow, didn't expected Turkey suffers the coup during cold war.
How about the next video would be Indonesia during Cold War ? Because what I got during my highschool days either lack of enough information or altered by New Order Regime (the effects still happens today). Thank you sir, keep it up !
*what about two coups*
@@reinatr4848 Is two coups possible ?!
@@affandi99 (1960 and 1980)
@@reinatr4848 owh
@@affandi99 Well, there is one more in 1970. It is not a complete takeover by the military but they overthrew the government, made the laws more authoritarian. There are 3 failed coup attempts as well between 1960 and 1980
What's the name of the Intro song ?
8:39 Ayla. May God of heaven and earth bless and keep Turkey for their works of love.
Dont forget to cover the Turkish invasion of Cyprus.
It wasnt a invasio
@@sosailic1083 cyprus was its own country, and just like the Turks in Syria right now, they invaded
Cyprus didnt protect her Turkish minority so Turkey intervened. Just like Syria in the case of Sunni Arabs.
@@sosailic1083 In case of Sunni Arabs? Turkey is attacking Syria. They are attacking all sects of the Syrian people.
Joseph Ybarra Assad is a dictator who only serves alawite arabs. Sunni arabs were systematically bombed, raped and killed. We didnt attack but created lebensraum for the innocent.
When will you talk about indonesia? It's seems like minor nation in the south east asia, but it's role it's quite important in the region, especially decolonization of south east asia. And also cold war played important role for Indonesia.
Talk about post war Myanmar!
Will you guy talks about Thailand at all?
Maybe when your stupid lese majeste laws are removed.
@@SantomPh Do I suppose to feels attacked by this? Coz your comment not only not constructive but it also don't have any substance
@@SantomPh , get a life
hue hue hue "Byzantine" politics indeed
Wasnt that foggy bridge between north and south korea, not in berlin :P
still no links to sources and materials used..
Well, I consider myself a "history freak" but I didn't know about the "Balkan Pact"...
The background music is much louder than the speaker and I can barely hear him. Very bad audio recording!
"Greece and Turkey have a history of slight enmity"
The understatement of this phrase cannot be measured..........
But after the war ended in 1922 Turkey and Greece got along well, declearing friendship, signing pacts etc. until Cyprus crysis
@@_ba0_ There will always be a crisis with Turkey.. In a few years they will invade our islands.. I HOPE I am wrong, but history has shown again and again they are warmongering thieves and murderers..
@@NickStrife How many wars have we started for last three centuries? We have been defensive for a long time now. We are not warmongerin thieves WTF?! And relax, Turkey does not plan to invade your islands. Your media just loves creating enemies that your politicians can exploit. And ours do that too sadly. And as for Cyprus if you mean that, we had to intervene because Turks were being murdered.
And also keep in mind that it was not Turkey who invaded Greece. But Greeks tried to invade Turkey getting near to Ankara before their defeat. during their retreat looting and pillaging everything in their way. Who's warmongering thieves here?
@@_ba0_ "Greeks tried to invade Turkey"
When? In reality, what you call "Turkey" is in part occupied Greek lands... We've been in Anatolia way longer than you, but somehow this is "Turkey" now?? Ahahahaha!
Also, you had no legitimate business in Cyprus.. Take your Turkish propaganda elsewhere.. Most Greeks were getting along with the Turkish MINORITY just fine.. The actions of a small right-wing extremist terrorist group does not excuse your prolonged ILLEGAL occupation of North Cyprus.. Let alone alone your ILLLEGAL colonisation of North Cyprus..
Hmmm this format looks a lot like the WWII channel and "The Great War" channel. Not saying anything but just observing they are kinda similar.
"This pro-western stance even went so far as Turkish recognition of the state of Israel"
The Secular Republic of Turkey never had problems with the state of Israel nor with its creation. The problems between the two countries began after Islamists came to power in Turkey (2002). Turkey officially still is a secular country but ruled by a bunch of reactionary authoritarian Islamists since then. Secular Turks don't have a problem with Israel. Seemingly secular Turks who dislike the state of Israel are those ones with bigoted "socialist" dogmatic beliefs. Islamists and most conservative muslims are naturally anti-Semitic by their religion and ideologies.
I hope after the current islamist government in Turkey is gone (which is declining day-to-day), relations between Turkey and Israel will be fine again.
It is completely and unequivocally incorrect to call those against israel anti-semitic.
Zionism is an ideology shared by many groups of non-jews as well, and those against zionism includes jews.
Furthermore the problem with israel isn’t religious even for the muslims.
israel is a colonial state that has committed and continues to commit many crimes against civilians.
It is completely incorrect to mischaracterize being pro-palestine and Islam as a whole as anti-semitic.
Infact a quick look at places like somalia will show large groups of jews who are muslim!
I read that both Stalin and Hitler saw İnönü as an incompetent politician while they had respect for Atatürk
So he tricked them into that.
Check out what he deserved after all:
- A soft transition after the death of a great, idolic leader.
- Managed to stay safe during a world war just by belly dancing around.
- Declared war against losing side and get the best out of this.
- Managed transition of power to a ruling class to another; WILLINGLY and peacefully. *(That alone requires huuuuuuuuuuge ballz mate, those two you mentioned couldn't achieved that)
- Managed to keep his nerve against a long provocative campaign against him.
- Eluded a coup d'etat.
- Eluded another coup d'etat, again.
You can mould those guyz together and create just a wig for Inonu. That guy certainly was a shrewed one and out smarted them.
How do you know there is going to be a missile crisis in Cuba?
Crystal Ball?
You are so funny that I forgot how to laugh.
Did Turkey suffer financial strains during World War 2?
Yes, very much indeed we prepared for the war by supporting the military.
Near-famine in urban areas. A satirical magazine showed a picture of a female teacher recommending to school pupils that they eat fruit. The pupils stare at the fruit hungrily - it is clearly not something they can easily buy or eat.
There's a saying in Turkey by İsmet İnönü, i may have left you without bread but i havent left you fatherless. Something of that sort
Is it weird to anyone else that the host looks off camera a lot ?
You have some mistakes. The adhan was translated in Turkish. Between 1932-1950 the adhan was Turkish in Turkiye. After the elections new government has led its Arabic version.
During the Second World War, Turkey, although having declared neutrality, concentrated 29 divisions on the Soviet-Turkish border. Had the Soviets lost the Stalingrad battle, Turks would attack.
My favorite part of this whole videos of the very beginning when he describes a politics as Byzantine when talking about Turkey the civilization that took over the Byzantine Empire anime are the last people to claim the title of emperor of the Romans
Title is misleading. You are talking about the coup of 1960 rather the events that led to the coup
Other way around you mean. There was nothing about the actual coup itself.
Unnoticeable fact of the Cold War: Turkey was the only NATO member country adjacent to the USSR.
Can you please make a video about India's "Vietnam moment" in the Sri Lankan civil war(1987-1990)
"For their part" (TM)
Byzantine, I see what you did there :D
Lebanese Civil War, Pakistan, Oman and UAE during the Cold War please
The CHP is not pronounced See H P. The C is pronounced as Gee. Hopefully this is helpful.
Didn't Turkey declare war near the very end to be considered neutral?
That's like saying something is stale, because you ate it 1 hour after expiration date.
can you make a video on Indonesia? i believe things like Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI), Sukarno's Guided Democracy, and the 30th September Movement shouldn't be missed in this channel.
Putting nukes in their country in 1959 probably helped the soviets decision to not provoke the Turks.
Wow I never knew Turkey sent troops to the Korean War. Here in the US they only talk of us war heroes lol and North Korean and China aggression and the US protecting the “little guy” which indirectly led to South Korea being dependent on the US decades afterwards.
what does byzantine politics mean?
Intrigue
Please make a video on 1971 Bangladesh liberation war
I can't wait until the Indonesian tragedy yet needed to, the cleansing of any communist influence during Gestapu 65-67.
"Byzantine international politics" - I see what you did there
I was just curious how you made the relation between the coup of 60 and the Cold War and yes you didnt. THANKS GOD lol Its the coup of 80 that can be linked to the Cold War circusmstances.
8:33 Muhammet amcam
Sorry, but you need to do a better job in vetting your news reel footage. You show pre-war Soviet tanks while talking about post war events. I believe you also showed German torpedo-boat and submarine footage while talking about Soviets. In another video you showed WWI tanks when talking post WWII.
If you are going to label the video "Turkey and the coup d'etat of 1960" You might want to actually talk about the coup of 1960
Stalin was about to invade Turkey after 1945, but the USA saved Turkey by making them their own little brother
hahaha little brother !!! usa staged the coups that devastated turkiye since60 years and now it supports pkk and terrorists against turkiye usa never saved turkiye from any evil us the source of evil to turkiye
Byzantine ... Turkey
I see what you did there
Take back Constantinople, lol
1980 coup is better and has more influence on current politics of turkey.
Paradoxically the 1960 coup reversed the authoritarian tendencies of the government and the army quickly returned to the barracks, even though Menderes and two others were executed. The 1980 coup meant the army controlled the country directly for several years, designed an authoritarian constitution that persisted after a formal return to civilian rule, and wrote into it immunity for the coup leaders like Kenan Evren. Even the AKP government made a lot of noise about lifting Evren's immunity but never actually did.
Good films about the 1980 aftermath are Yol (The Road), (1982) about four prisoners temporarily released from jail and their different fates, and Eve Dönüs (Return Home) (2006) about a worker arrested after the coup by police who mistake him for a left-wing gunman. He is tortured by police until they discover they have the wrong man. (There is a suggestion that his pious Islamist landlord denounced him as someone suspicious to the cops in revenge for his rent arrears.) The police let him go but one warns him on the street to say nothing about what happened to him. He learns from a newspaper that a fellow detainee is dead - the newspaper says he was a terrorist killed in a shoot-out but it is clear he was killed while in detention. The worker sits in a café. Two other men in the café mutter about that "Communist" over there that got arrested. Then police come and tell the two to come with them to the police station. They say, "But there must be some mistake." The film ends there, but indicates nobody in the coup period was entirely safe...
Me like. Good. More stuff.
Could you do on Pakistan?
I am seriously questioning "the Byzantine international diplomatic bla bla" thing. What the hell is that? Is the west called Byzantine by some people or what? If so, it is just wrong. Byzantine is the east. We are Byzantine, not Europe or America.
Byzantine definition:
1. Relating to Byzantium (now Istanbul), the Byzantine Empire, or the Eastern Orthodox Church.
2. (of a system or situation) excessively complicated, and typically involving a great deal of administrative detail.
@@TheColdWarTV You said "Turkey was quickly drawn into the Byzantine international politics of the post-war era."
Turkey was trying to get integrated to western politics in order to find a protection. There is literally no relation between international politics in 50s and Byzantine. Is this a technical term in international politics or did you just make it up? Because neither Turkey's political efforts nor western conjuncture was grounding on Byzantine style administration and diplomacy. They were political actions that come from current needs.
Yes, that is what we said. And based on the second definition, it means "Turkey was quickly drawn into the excessively complicated international politics of the post-war era."
@@TheColdWarTV Sorry but i still can't see any reason to call this complicated political situation as Byzantine. But i don't see any need to continue to this argument as well. Thanks and good day :)
Bruh, you used stock footage of Nicholas II at 5:45!!! How much more amateur can you get?
Was looking forward to this channel when it was coming out. But it’s boring....idk if it’s the narration or the structure. But it’s disappointing
Really?
The presenter lacks the Indy Neidell gimmicks but it is not boring and some of the events he describes I lived through personally.
The video is only for events, this is wrong.
People are in the foreground, not institutions in Turkish Political History.
I hope you talk about very important political leaders such as Süleyman Demirel, İsmet İnönü, Bülent Ecevit and Necmettin Erbakan in the next video.
steps of these leaders created the present-day Turkey.
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#turkish #lost #partners .....plus they had #high #military #expenditure..... Sound #familiar #turkiye
Byzantine, hehe
Why was the Turkish military secular? Weren't it's individual soldiers an officers just normal people who might not have secular views on politics?
Thanks!
Atatürk is the founder of Turkey and he is the one who make Turkey a secular country. so all of the military person were following his order and adore him at the time. its still kinda same today but weaker because of the current goverment.
why ? if u need unsecular muslim state go to suudi arabia
It's called "purge". All dictators ensure that their armed forces follow their particular ideology. Ataturk purged the islamic orthodoxy out of the army just like Erdogan purged secularism out of his.
I heard many Turk soldiers lost their jobs cuz their wives wear scarfs etc. Strange times, i don't think any Muslim soldier had such harsh experience while serving under European military. Turkish version of secularism is quite opposite to what usually we witness (freedom/equality blah blah). It looks closer to Nazism or communism
@@AHSANALI-tb3hs actually quite the opposite. The islamic orthodoxy Erdogan had revived is what looks like totalitarism. Before the reign of Erdogan Turkey was on a good secular way. Europeans even considered Turkey to be ready to join the EU. All this is gone now. Because of this damn religious fanatism combined with ugly nationalism.
Ataturk knew how toxic the islamic religion is. Many in the West dont. Which explains certain paradoxons like the one u mentioned.
Just another nation enjoying better quality of life of American money
TÜRKISH "ALTYAZI"
As a native Turk the holes in narrative disturbs me.
Example
There is no way not to disturb animosity between Greece and Turkey. The simple fact I said Greece first made some Turkish angry towards me.
YO YO POATOE , WHATS MY NAME NOT RICKY G NOT RICKY P NOT RICKY E ITS RICKY!!!!!!!!!!!.........(u say Ricky c in comments)
5:15 Turkey didn't fight in WW2
It declared war on Germany in 1945
Turkey was chicken
It was, kind of
@@yetigriff , nothing chicken about not joining a war
@@hidof9598 joining the war when it was obvious who was going to win, doing absolutely nothing, then begging for marshal aid 🤣🤣
eyyyy I asked for it
One further interesting note: In order stabilize the turkish weak economy, reduce social pressure and thereby strenghen its important NATO ally in a region of immense strategic importance, the US pushed Germany to accept the so called "Gastarbeiter" deal of the 1960s: accepting the migration of thousands of unskilled worked despite of no economical need and desite of seeing social problems in the future.
The unpleasant consequences of this deal can be seen and felt still today.
You mean to completely exclude the fact that Germany had no manpower for its factories? It had just been 15 years since the 2nd world war. Germany needed any manpower it could get (Ontop of half of Germany being under the Soviet Sphere of influence). Quite literally Germany had lost around 30% of its working population. It needed people. This comment is ridiculous and quite racist I think.
@@msc7594 no, it did not need that manpower. The historical sources are absolutely clear about this. What was needed was sufficiently supplied by Western European countries.
@@juanzulu2755 source?
@@rvanhees89 German history, Anwerbeabkommen zwischen der BRD und der Tūrkei.
Turkey:
97% Asia
3% Europe
100% Middle East
Westerners: turkey is European
Lmao no one says that. Everyone sees Turkey as an Asian country.
@@liveforever9888 not in England
Turkey %200🤔
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Olum çevirin la
Mongolia during the Cold War