To the guy talking about physics and spirituality... I took 4 years of physics, at the university level, and we never once covered any physical functionality that had included spirituality.
Why did God wait until we discovered physics to reveal himself in some modern Da Vinci code? Can't he just pop down from clouds and end this disbelief?
I come across people like that a lot in the psychedelic community, that's why I was already rolling my eyes when he started mentioning psychedelics with spirituality and physics. Yes it is true a lot of the patterns and shit you see while tripping is mathematic but that can easily be explained by science and it has. A trip if anything is extremely personal, that's why spiritual people experience spiritual things. Even when I take a heavy dose to treat myself every trip is different. I'm kinda sick of hearing about people using psychedelics to "prove" their crazy conspiracy about aliens or gods or whatever it is. They're just a fun interesting thing that exists in nature. There are also thousands of different kinds of psychedelics and some are poisonous so it's important to know what kind of mushroom or cactus or whatever it is you're consuming.
Mr. Hebrew has been making the rounds. Constantly faults others for not being equal in knowledge to himself, a self educated man? Consent of the woman was totally ignored.
Yeah, he's gone by many names (Mr Delcious, Le Chef, Stanley etc) but you always know it's him. He has a distinctly panicked voice as if he's always in a state of desperation. He spent quite some time desperately trying to peddle a 7 day cycle apologetic which is about the dumbest idea since Ray Comforts banana. He gets raked over the coals by just about everyone he talks to but constantly insists he's winning. Shannon Q laughed him off the show. Lloyd Evans thought he was a troll. Josh Bowen outclassed him without even trying. I don't think he is very stable. He should probably ease up on the caffeine and sugar.
this guy reminds me of my family. for some reason, admitting the need to look up a bible verse, in the heat of an argument, makes them think they have an insurmountable advantage. i dont understand this "leap" in logic.
Thank God for this. Haven't watched it yet, but I live in a religious community and am about to lose my mind. I've been seriously needing to hear humanists talk about current events.
look up texas paul on meidas touch. he's a liberal as appalled at what's going on as you and i are. also, beau of the fifth column. don't be fooled by appearances. they bring sanity to the world.
I'm 22 and I was raised a muslim and I became atheist 7 months ago, and it is awesome. When I graduate next year I'm thinking of making a project to fight religion in my country.
@@kongrufus1 well you just need to fight those who wants to make you their slave, for me that's what anyone who tells people what to do and not to do in their personal lives is. We're humans because we make decisions so when someone decides to tell you how to live your life they're taking away what makes you human.
... Without meaning to pick on Muslim countries - honestly - that SOUNDS kinda dangerous. It can get you into an argument in Canada - and (maybe) a FIGHT in the states, but in (some) Islamic Countries it might get you ...
I totally had to skip past that second caller, brother! Glad you wrapped that one up quickly. My brain is already about to melt with all that is going on in the world today. I don’t have the computing power to deal with that level of pseudoscience right now! Lol 😂
Time to revise this, Seth (around 11:38) "You can pray in school, you just can't lead a prayer from a teacher's desk..." Now you can, as long as it's a Christian prayer. And maybe it helps to be not just any teacher, but the football coach, because we know God is on our team's side, and wants to defeat those godless heathens across the field wearing the Devil's colors.
I heard their record as a team is abysmal, so not only is the coach a self righteous prick, he's not even a good coach, and I wouldn't at all be surprised if it comes to light that his true motivation is to "get a little some" from the boys on the team!
Funny really. All my adult life as an atheist, humanist it's been received wisdom that you have to be gentle with these people of faith. You have to form classical arguments and try to educate using logical syllogisms, the scientific method, reasoned argument. It's not necessarily their fault, I've been told, they're brainwashed from birth and we can't be aggressive to them or rude because if we do that we alienate them and lose the argument on the grounds of well, niceness or something. So we metaphorically disarm ourselves and we 'turn the other cheek' (how ironic is that?) when they talk about our lack of moral compass because we don't have a wife-beating father figure who lives in the sky to tell us what to do, or they pray for us' and other patronising impostures. But while we're turning the other cheek, all these poor little Christians are driving a fucking tank through our civil liberties. They have faith, so they don't need to explain their sexism, racism, homophobia and other anti-human attitudes. They're just getting on with the job of remaking the world in their image.
Very well said, seems you've been paying attention to this issue for a while just as I have. It's terrifying and infuriating. I"m sick of all these politics invoking God and faith because it seems to be the "trend" right now. Do they really believe in anything, do they stand for anything except money and war?
@@loricrawford1952 Money and war are as attractive to atheists as to anyone else. The difference is that atheists are more likely to be honest about their reasons.
When the debate guy called I just thought "Seth doesn't do debates, try Truth Wanted, Talk Heathen, Atheist Experience, they'll gladly rip you a new one."
We got the hell out of Tulsa a few months into the pandemic, and despite the hardships, haven't looked back once. Held on to Oklahoma for far too long thinking that it just needed more reality driven people in it. Now that I'm out, I realize that it won't change, and the best thing is to just leave it. Yeah, rent and gas might be cheaper there, but that's about it, and pay is so much better in other places.
23:24 sometimes the U.S. feels like an opposite world. I live in Europe and a colleague which I look up to has a bible verse as his laptop background. When another colleague saw this, he said, almost offended: "I didn't knew you were religious." Like, he couldn't believe someone so competent is an active believer.
I would just say "Nope... this just happens to be the ONE Bible verse that I actually agree with!" and leave it at that... Especially if that Bible verse happens to be Matthew 7:1 "Judge not, lest you be judged..." 😅😂😁
I thought that Terry was going to claim that it was just kidnapping (as if that's not also immoral). But he seemed to argue that it was just a man and a daughter agreeing to marry each other without seeking permission or approval from the daughter's father (and requiring permission or approval, and requiring compensation in the absence of seeking permission or approval, were okay because that was their culture).
I can relate to what Seth says about Australia. I migrated to Australia from America in 1982 and am so glad I did. There are no Bible Bashing going on in Australia, and the Prime Minister is just a mediocre practising Catholic that never mixes politics with religion. I feel sorry for Americans that have to put up with the Christian Nationalists movement nonsense.
Hi Seth. I just wanted to say Thank you!!!! It's so comforting to have you and others like Matt Dillahunty down here in Austin to help me get through all of the crazy bulkshit that is going on.
It’s effing everywhere and has been since forever. I’m past my mid-60s and back in the early 70s I assumed these sorts of people/ideas were withering away. AND, the next person who says ‘Have a blessed day!’ I’m going to say ‘Are you a believer, too?’ And while he or she is beaming, I’ll say, ‘Well, Hail Satan to you, too!’
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If I lived in the USA right now, I'd emigrate north. If Trump is reelected, I'd even emigrate south. Or start swimming.
Australian here. Yeah, we are insane. We live in a country where everything is actively trying to kill us. That said, our politicians aren't as balls-out bonkers as yours (well, not all of them). I live in New Zealand now, and it's awesome. Not as hot, rains more, no animals that want me dead. About the same when it comes to religiosity. Much love from "down under".
As the official spokes person of New Zealand, I officially invite all sane people from around the world to come join us here and we can all live together and forget the insanity going on in the crazy lands across the water, but seriously as awesome as that would be, that would be selfish of me, we need people to push back against the fundamentalists who's sole goal it seems is to lure Jesus back to the world so he can end it
To anyone up in arms over Roe, I hope for a minute you will consider the bigger picture. The timing of this is no coincidence. Once the Jan 6th committee hearings began, we started to hear murmurs of this as a smoke screen. Only after the last hearing, knowing there would be a whole month before the next scheduled hearing did the scotus make this decision. They did this to get everyone distracted and agitated. I'd look for another bonkers decision when the next series of hearings resume. Now that there is a "surprise" hearing, it will be interesting to see if anyone pays as much attention or if the diversion worked.
You can also make the argument that the timing will help the Democrats in November. It also pulls millions into politics making it more likely they will watch the hearings. Your argument doesn't hold water.
@@apathyguy8338 I think Mark A is correct as to the intent of the timing. I wish you were correct as to the backlash of more people watching the hearings, but, from my limited observations, it appears the majority currently prefer getting the abbreviated version of events from their favorite "news" or social media, so they can comfortably filter "reality" with their confirmation bias
I think that you missed the mark on this. Overturning Roe has been in the works for generations, the SCOTUS took up Dobbs long before any of the January 6th hearings were scheduled, Dobbs and several other cases are being decided before the end of regular SCOTUS session, and both the hearings and Dobbs should make most Americans stand against Republicans and so-called "conservatives." Also, it's up to law enforcement agencies to prosecute the people who were involved in trying to overturn the election or otherwise keep Trump in office after he lost. There is plenty of public support for that, but also it's not dependent upon public support.
My Sister In Law wanted my wife to give someone we didn't know our baby crib. My wife said no. My SIL said "But it's the Christian thing to do." My wife then informed her "But I'm not a Christian." OMG! Fortunately there were only a few comments, but very pointed. My FIL and MIL just stayed out of it. I don't think they really believed. We have a lot of heavy duty Christians around us, but they accept us heathens without trying to convert us. I consider us lucky.
Where I’m from it’s always the people in the most religious area that ask the most for second hand goods and want to pay the least when it’s them buying stuff.
47:37 So, "taking by force" (the callers words of how the text should be translated there) somehow doesn't mean what it totally sounds like, but getting into a (totally consensual) sexual relationship with her without asking her father". Really? Taking by force? His argument is that "taking by force" means not asking dad? Pull the other one.
The guy that said YOUR interpretation of the Bible is wrong because "Hebrew", appears to actually be saying that EVERY translation of the Bible is wrong. So where's his complete, "properly" translated version of the Bible?
Yeah, I've dealt with more than my share of these believers, over the years, and I used to be one myself. They sit on their computers and do tons of "research" to convince themselves that the Bible isn't really the book of horrors that it reads as being. They usually end up at the conclusion that the Bible has been egregiously mistranslated, warped, and mangled to the point of being useless if not read in the original Hebrew and Greek. Yes, thousands of Bible scholars, over hundreds of years have all fumbled the translation of the book that is arguably the most influential piece of literature in western civilization. I mean, of course, what other explanation could there be? Cyber-sleuthing the Bible in hopes of finding out what it "really" teaches is what believers do when they cannot accept its moral ugliness.
I'm in northeast Texas and am looking for somewhere else to go.. Everything is so expensive but i feel it's just time to get out.. Texas has sent a clear message to women that they don't matter and they are dispensable to men..i need to go
Is it the right time for a Muslim group in Maine to start a Religious Academy, then encourage students to seek government funding? Just to test the credibility of the courts!
That jittery guy is a new one, quite entertaining. He has called other shows with different names. I can imagine how he has trouble staying on his chair, shaking with his wisdom over authorities and all the people of the world, wisdom he has gathered from "research in the net". And its notable, like before, he didnt answer a single question he was asked, and everyone seems to let that slip by. Not that it really matters. And i have a feeling, that character like that doesnt get many friends in life.
We would love you here in AUS. Great news too is that Aus is less and less religious, last years Census returned great news on almost half the country being non-religious. Stay strong Seth.❤️
Good call Nat.................also there are plenty of tennis clubs here. You'll fit right in Seth. Also, there are very few escamgelicals here in Aus. Most religious people belong to mainstream Christian religions like Anglican and Catholicism so don't really cause too many issues. And guns are never mentioned.............................just saying.
The guy claims he's done a lot of research on the golden ratio and then said "it's half of pi", obviously either had done no research on the golden ratio or doesn't know the value of pi. Golden ratio starts with 1.618... double that you get 3.236 which is not pi.
I get told to move often but....this is my home, where my family memories are, where I feel close to my dad (now gone), where I own my home....why should I leave? I will stay and fight for my home and my rights even though it feels hopeless...yes I too fantasize about leaving but why should I?...and yes I am in Texas
@@forrestgossett Certainly. Although these days I understand there is a backlog of applications from around the world and especially from Ukraine and Afghanistan due to the conflicts in both countries. ✌️
When you mentioned the dying brain and connected it with Margorie Greene, it made me think that her dying brain is putting up one hell of a fight and it's going down kicking and screaming.
Boebert and lots of Americans claim Jesus and then believe that they are forgiven for not reading scripture. Jesus is used as a pass for committing all kinds of wrongs.
The stuff going on is unreal...the christian nationalist and the things they say....unreal... Cant believe that adults would say these things. I have been othered for my atheism which is minor considering what some people are "othered" for. The throw out the most ridiculous things. While on my way to the AANC i stopped in with old friends in TN that are theists. THey said that you cant have a good, moral life with out a higher hierarchy. I said why not?? No good answer to that. I am still trying to figure that one out! She and I have been friends for 40 years and this is not the same person i used to know. We didnt go any farther that the fact that she and her husband voted for trump. I was afraid to ask if they saw him as the next mesiah as i was truly worried about what they would say and what i would say. Sometimes it is better if one doesn't know. Anyway Seth, keep up the good work and trying to make sense of the world as it is!
I live in Moore, OK, and Seth, I ABSOLUTELY agree with everything you said! I've had to work VERY hard to get my mental health back on track after the last 4-5 years. And I noticed those damn commercials, too.
when you get into a theological argument with a person who is a Christian, you get into a situation where the advocate and the judge are the same person. That is to say, Jesus is judged the best man in the world by the standards of Christianity. Because those are the standards with which this kind of person judges. And therefore-and you’ll find that people who leap to these judgments usually don’t know very much about any other kind of religion. The courses on comparative religion in theological schools are shockingly superficial and grossly inaccurate.
It is sh^t like that which makes me particularly grateful for my World Religions course at my Catholic high school. The teacher may have been a fully ordained minister, but he was Western Orthodox, a former USAF chaplain, and quite open to using all religious philosophies and not simply to try to steer people to Christianity - he even encouraged me to seriously consider atheism when I began to seriously question my faith. Yeah, my class was a real unicorn, and given that it was at a Catholic high school in San Antonio, Texas, that would make the class - to use an MLP term (sorry if you are offended) - a real alicorn.
@@DavidRichardson153 I wish I would have had a class like that. I learned about other religions by riding buses and being approached by Mormons, JW, and various Born Again Christians. They were effective in convincing me that it was all a mess.
@@jamesparson To be completely fair, he did not exactly bring in anyone of any sort of authority from another faith or religion, but he did direct us to such - he even included Islam, which was really something, given that I had this class in the 2005-2006 school year. Still, he did what he did, and I cannot thank him enough for it. Plus, I ended up acing the course because I ended up doing both versions of the final he offered the class. We could either take a standard exam, or we could give a presentation on a more modern religion, such as the Mormons (that student presentation was literally the extent of the coverage that one was given) and even Jediism. I was the only one who took the standard exam, and the whole class, including the teacher knew I was *the* Star Wars fan in the whole school, and I ended up giving all of the information - and even helped track down sources - my classmate used when he gave his presentation on Jediism. For that classmate, the teacher still gave him his full marks, but he also gave me a bonus that raised my overall grade in his class from a near-perfect score to an actual perfect score, so 😁👍
Yeah, that guy has called into many atheist shows and claims to "destroy" people. He usually talks about the seven day cycle, and how it is proof that the whole world is under the rule of the god of the bible. When his arguments are rebutted and dismissed, he smugly claims victory. His arguments are so stupid that most hosts are at first unbelieving that he is even trying to use them. He is extremely arrogant and a serious asshole.
I would go to Australia as well! And their accent is AMAZING! But they do have some absolutely nutterbutter fundamentalist as well, people like Ken Ham, the guy who started Answers in Genesis, is from Australia. So, they may not be quite as far as we are right now but for how long?
I live in Southeast Oklahoma. There was a kid (probably in his early 20s) last night when I went to vote. The lady asked, "dem or rep". He said, "I don't know what I'm registered as." so she looked it up. She's looked through her binder and looked at him and ask, "How do you feel about being a Democrat?" and he's replied with disappointment but still respectfully, "That's not too good ma'am". She laughed and shook her head, "well that's what you are registered as". I was like, wtf... who doesn't know what party they registered with. I've been proudly registered as an independent for years but just changed to Democrat this year. I've been told I should have registered republican and voted for someone they wouldn't want to vote for.
WHY do you need to register, and why register as dem or rep? In The Netherlands every citizen who turns 18 can vote without registration. You’re sent a voting pass for every election. Non-citizens who are registered as an inhabitant can vote in regional and local (municipal) elections. No electoral votes either. That’s what a democracy looks like.
The "Golder Ratio" is real, but there are many cool patterns in nature. PI is "magical", for a better word. They are just the way the Universe fell into place.
I watched a professor explain fascism it started in Italy and then Hitler grabbed hold of it as I listened I realized fascism and theism are almost identical
@@buildingcollege it was also in Spain, but i believe fascism was actually created in Italy with Mussolini. He actually created the name. But yes, Franco was also fascist in Spain.
The 'phys' guy (I think it's about 30 mins' timestamp) is pretty full of pseudoscience bullshit. My major is physics and math, and currently, I am doing my honours year (Australian education system equivalent to master's in America). I think I can very confidently say that he just threw a bunch of word-salad which has nothing to do with real-world physic research, and definitely, those topics have nothing to do with spirituality! It's very upsetting to hear people doing that.
Fascinating topics here, this podcast shows just how odd those conversations can get. I'm a compassionate atheist and a vegan. The idea of personal investment seems important here. A very similar thing is going on in veganism too. I can understand how a butcher or a pastor when faced with a compelling alternative fact might see the losses they'd have to face if they changed their mind, and they might find it rather daunting. That choice between disturbing new information and comfortable familiarity is a tough one, maybe some people just aren't up to it.
I recently saw a ReligionForBreakfast video about all of Buddhism's hells, and at the end it's mentioned that a Buddhist named Samuel Bercholz had an NDE in which he took a tour of every level of Buddhist hell. To me this just proves that NDE's are all dependent on the experiencers' beliefs.
Sure Seth I can see it all now.. the next shit-show will be when gay rights end up right out the effin window! The whole god-damned country is turning into a 3 ring circus!
Hey Seth, I love your channel! Something related to some of your interests mentioned, The youtube channel "JCS Criminal psychology" is I think right up your alley. The way this channel breaks down cases is very detailed and addicting to watch.
I moved to Australia, and good god (lol) it is very nice living in a place where people don’t push religion on you all the time. And I work in a church-owned business, and live in an area with heaps of churchy types. They’re all so cool about it!
I was born here, and lived here almost 54 years so far... I've had /zero/ conversations include "So, what church do you go to?" Recent census data has "no religion" at 40%, so I think it'd be fair to say most here are some sort of believer, but nobody I know treats it as anyone else's business. Well, unless you start trying to "talk about out lord and saviour" to them - even the zealots seem to get a bit short sometimes, then.
@@CyberiusT it really is an interesting cultural difference! Even tho I was from a fairly left-leaning state in the USA, I would still get passed religious pamphlets while at work, people tried to pass out bibles outside our school, my family on one side are all veeeeery “America is Gods country” about everything… and then to suddenly be faced with none of that…. I can only imagine how much of a relief it would be for atheist Americans who grew up in the Bible Belt to experience Australia.
Down under? Come on, too poisonous and too hot! Come to Germany :) - we have tons of non-believers here (not where I live sadly, Bavaria is Germany's Texas, but everywhere else!) and most of us at least understand English :) - I also happen to live alone, so yeah I do have a guest-room :D ^^
I'm kind of surprised that you didn't catch the hypocrisy of that one guy saying the original Hebrew word included "by force" and yet he says it's her choice. Then he references another bible verse and, if it was her choice, then that rule doesn't apply, so it's a non sequitur. He also seemed to dodge your question and assume that, even if he won that argument, that it proves all the other countless claims true. I see a megachurch preacher in the making.
That guy is a prize idiot. He has rung every atheist show with continually dumbass arguments. He also thinks giggling like a twit makes him seem clever and it really doesn't.
When he said “It doesn’t say rape in the original Hebrew! It says taken by force!” I’m thinking to myself “Dude, taken by force is just another way of saying rape 🤦”
@@Xelger That’s Christian fundamentalists for you. They’ll come up with all kind of mental gymnastics and justifications for the atrocities that the Bible promotes. Take genocide and the murder of pregnant women which also proves God is not “pro-life”. A Christian fundamentalist will justify it by saying “ Oh those people were of evil and an immoral culture that practiced sinful acts such as idolatry, and homosexuality!” All they’ve just told me is that if they were in the military they’d have no issue committing a war crime against civilians. Historically speaking look at how Europeans viewed non-white, non-Christian cultures such as the indigenous people when the Spanish, French and British came to the Americas. The rape, murder and enslavement of the indigenous people and the idea of “White Man’s Burden” was biblically inspired. Deep down inside Christian fundamentalists know I what they’re trying to defend is wrong, but of course they’re scared of some bogeyman called Hell.
I live in Texas and planning for my exit to Las Vegas NV in the next few months!! If I could afford to move to another country, I would!! I will not be celebrating anything patriotic anymore and will no longer pledge allegiance or sing the national anthem!!
Short Hebrew lesson: If you insist on picking the Hebrew word in the bible “tefasa”, when you translate it the full meaning is - he caught her. It is an action that was done by a male to a passive/non-consenting female. It is still rape in the Hebrew meaning since in Hebrew the word rape “o-ness” have a double meaning. It also means forced.
It's more than that- it says ותפשה ושכב עמה- "and he grabbed her and had sex with her." And in the next verse, the phrase תחת אשר עניתה- because he forced her- makes it clear that this is not consensual.
I am relating to you here Seth. I find myself considering what it would be like to live outside the southern US, or maybe just get out of Texas. I'm hoping to come to see you when you come to Houston this summer!
I once lived with some Buddhist monks and Catholics, not at the same time. Who would often say seeking refuge and providing shelter well if you're ever in Colorado my Goodwill is extended to you and yours Seth. I don't have a big house but I would certainly make some space (•‿•)
Does anyone care about how unwanted kids will be raised? What about parents who r not good at parenting and would rather not bring a child into the world? What about those who don't want to bring a kid into this chaotic crazy world? Many religious people don't believe in master bastion, what a guy to do?
Very rare that Seth manifests impatience, but was still polite in getting rid of the guy who said The Greatest Podcast in The World isn't telling THE TRUTH! Salute Seth!
honestly that sounds really sceary. And I have the feeling it is gonna get worse. get out when you still can or beprepaired to fight with every thing you got.
It makes realize how rare and precious intelligence really is... And hey... any shrink worth his insurance is gonna say that ranting is a healing practice.
Nope, they aren't done yet. Thomas is actively advertising wanting to continue the activism. But there will also be a significant amount of economic and political damage done by that court. They were put there by corporate interests every bit as much as religious ones. I can only say that there are a lot of people outside of America (myself included) looking on with a lot of concern regarding what is happening in America right now. The phrase "Think outside of the box" comes to mind. Sometimes that leads people to Woo, but sometimes it's just good to get out and realize that the bickering going on inside that box is just completely off the rails and has nothing to do with any broader reality. Like walking out of a contentious meeting hall and realizing that there is a park and a mountain range. You get a breath of fresh air and realize, "Wow, those people are arguing bitterly and viciously about NOTHING, just for the sake of arguing." A lot of people support you all so everyone try to focus on continuing to do good, to help make life a little bit better where we can.
Hi Seth. I'm David from Australia. First a big thanks for all you do (yep, another one), you make a real difference. I was listening to this podcast, especially the bit where you were 'speculating' where to move to, whilst driving through the rain forest in the hinterland behind Byron Bay. This is a truly beautiful part of the world and I'm so glad I was born here. I was thinking that if you were to move you would be totally welcome here. Interestingly we have just had the results of last year's census released and those who identify as "No Religion" (38.9%) are just 5% behind Christians (43.9%) and climbing. We are now the 2nd biggest belief demographic in the country. Yep, you'd like it here. Thanks again David Best
I feel the same way, but it is not just religion, it is strong belief in things (like Trump winning the 2020 election) that not only are false but can also be quickly and easily shown to be false. It's the whole idea that it does not matter whether something is true or not.
Kind of sad that othering is done so often by everyone it seems. Although I am glad you were able to find your people though. There have been many of us who haven't found their people yet. Good definition of yourself though I enjoyed it.
I was just taking sip of my soda when you said "Thinking about dying brain made me think about Marjorie Taylor Green". Seth , have you ever snorked Mtn Dew? It ain't fun, buddy, and now my t-shirts a mess... Thanks, buddy 🤣
43:48 I am 99% certain that "Terry" is the seven-day cycle guy, aka Mr. Delicieux or the various other names he's gone by. th-cam.com/video/E5LF_uY1hL8/w-d-xo.html
"It still translates to a crock of shit." --Duke, long-time listener.
Right on, Duke.
Right on, Seth.
Fuck Theocracy.
#NoGodsNoMasters
"when I think about dying brain, I just think of marjorie taylor greene". LOL
Good ol' Marjie Space Lasers. Just when you think she's already said the dumbest shit possible, she goes and opens her trap again.
And Lauren Boeturd
To the guy talking about physics and spirituality... I took 4 years of physics, at the university level, and we never once covered any physical functionality that had included spirituality.
Yeah... My psychiatry senses were tingling with that caller...
Why did God wait until we discovered physics to reveal himself in some modern Da Vinci code? Can't he just pop down from clouds and end this disbelief?
Blame people like Deepak Chopra who try to use (misuse) scientific jargon to sell their mumbo-jumbo.
I come across people like that a lot in the psychedelic community, that's why I was already rolling my eyes when he started mentioning psychedelics with spirituality and physics. Yes it is true a lot of the patterns and shit you see while tripping is mathematic but that can easily be explained by science and it has. A trip if anything is extremely personal, that's why spiritual people experience spiritual things. Even when I take a heavy dose to treat myself every trip is different. I'm kinda sick of hearing about people using psychedelics to "prove" their crazy conspiracy about aliens or gods or whatever it is. They're just a fun interesting thing that exists in nature. There are also thousands of different kinds of psychedelics and some are poisonous so it's important to know what kind of mushroom or cactus or whatever it is you're consuming.
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Oh yeah, that guy. Between him and Oprah......so much money.
Mr. Hebrew has been making the rounds. Constantly faults others for not being equal in knowledge to himself, a self educated man? Consent of the woman was totally ignored.
Yeah, he's gone by many names (Mr Delcious, Le Chef, Stanley etc) but you always know it's him. He has a distinctly panicked voice as if he's always in a state of desperation. He spent quite some time desperately trying to peddle a 7 day cycle apologetic which is about the dumbest idea since Ray Comforts banana. He gets raked over the coals by just about everyone he talks to but constantly insists he's winning. Shannon Q laughed him off the show. Lloyd Evans thought he was a troll. Josh Bowen outclassed him without even trying. I don't think he is very stable. He should probably ease up on the caffeine and sugar.
He is seriously in need of a psych-eval
@@greatunwashed9116 energy drinks?
this guy reminds me of my family. for some reason, admitting the need to look up a bible verse, in the heat of an argument, makes them think they have an insurmountable advantage. i dont understand this "leap" in logic.
Thank God for this. Haven't watched it yet, but I live in a religious community and am about to lose my mind. I've been seriously needing to hear humanists talk about current events.
I feel your pain! Same thing where I live in AZ! Fucking my head sometimes feels like it will explode fro all the right wing nonsense!!
look up texas paul on meidas touch. he's a liberal as appalled at what's going on as you and i are. also, beau of the fifth column. don't be fooled by appearances. they bring sanity to the world.
Shouldn’t that be thank Hitch?
I'm 22 and I was raised a muslim and I became atheist 7 months ago, and it is awesome. When I graduate next year I'm thinking of making a project to fight religion in my country.
That sounds awesome!
But do be careful. Some religious people (of all faiths) can get.. very physical in their protests towards atheists :-)
@@kongrufus1 well you just need to fight those who wants to make you their slave, for me that's what anyone who tells people what to do and not to do in their personal lives is. We're humans because we make decisions so when someone decides to tell you how to live your life they're taking away what makes you human.
Be very very careful as you know the Koran calls for the killing of apostates and there's more than enough crazies out there willing to enforce it.
be cautious
... Without meaning to pick on Muslim countries - honestly - that SOUNDS kinda dangerous. It can get you into an argument in Canada - and (maybe) a FIGHT in the states, but in (some) Islamic Countries it might get you ...
I totally had to skip past that second caller, brother! Glad you wrapped that one up quickly. My brain is already about to melt with all that is going on in the world today. I don’t have the computing power to deal with that level of pseudoscience right now! Lol 😂
I could feel my eyes drooping! He handled that so classily. I would have just blown a rhaspberry and moved on
You just don't want to hear the truth about spiritual AEP's in your lymph nodes! 😜
Obsessive Bible believers and evangelicals give me a headache.
I am pretty sure the second caller isn't right in the head, with some sort of schizophrenia-like symptoms.
Time to revise this, Seth (around 11:38) "You can pray in school, you just can't lead a prayer from a teacher's desk..." Now you can, as long as it's a Christian prayer. And maybe it helps to be not just any teacher, but the football coach, because we know God is on our team's side, and wants to defeat those godless heathens across the field wearing the Devil's colors.
The problem is that in sports both teams pray to the same God .
I heard their record as a team is abysmal, so not only is the coach a self righteous prick, he's not even a good coach, and I wouldn't at all be surprised if it comes to light that his true motivation is to "get a little some" from the boys on the team!
One of my schools had the Blue 😈 as a mascot...
@@QuyNguyen-lm1gq God has his favorites. And maybe a bookie.
@@craighofmann638 It's the team name for Duke University.
Funny really. All my adult life as an atheist, humanist it's been received wisdom that you have to be gentle with these people of faith. You have to form classical arguments and try to educate using logical syllogisms, the scientific method, reasoned argument. It's not necessarily their fault, I've been told, they're brainwashed from birth and we can't be aggressive to them or rude because if we do that we alienate them and lose the argument on the grounds of well, niceness or something. So we metaphorically disarm ourselves and we 'turn the other cheek' (how ironic is that?) when they talk about our lack of moral compass because we don't have a wife-beating father figure who lives in the sky to tell us what to do, or they pray for us' and other patronising impostures. But while we're turning the other cheek, all these poor little Christians are driving a fucking tank through our civil liberties. They have faith, so they don't need to explain their sexism, racism, homophobia and other anti-human attitudes. They're just getting on with the job of remaking the world in their image.
Well said.
Beautifully said!!
Very well said, seems you've been paying attention to this issue for a while just as I have. It's terrifying and infuriating. I"m sick of all these politics invoking God and faith because it seems to be the "trend" right now. Do they really believe in anything, do they stand for anything except money and war?
@@loricrawford1952 Money and war are as attractive to atheists as to anyone else. The difference is that atheists are more likely to be honest about their reasons.
@@WCM1945 OK
OMG Seth, I’m sorry those callers were awful, I hate it when people call in and want to pick a fight, you’re a lot more patient than I am
idk the stoner dude at the start seemed pretty fun :)
When the debate guy called I just thought "Seth doesn't do debates, try Truth Wanted, Talk Heathen, Atheist Experience, they'll gladly rip you a new one."
We got the hell out of Tulsa a few months into the pandemic, and despite the hardships, haven't looked back once. Held on to Oklahoma for far too long thinking that it just needed more reality driven people in it. Now that I'm out, I realize that it won't change, and the best thing is to just leave it. Yeah, rent and gas might be cheaper there, but that's about it, and pay is so much better in other places.
Seth, when you're really sick of Oklahoma, come over to the Netherlands. We have stroopwafels...
23:24 sometimes the U.S. feels like an opposite world. I live in Europe and a colleague which I look up to has a bible verse as his laptop background. When another colleague saw this, he said, almost offended: "I didn't knew you were religious."
Like, he couldn't believe someone so competent is an active believer.
I would just say "Nope... this just happens to be the ONE Bible verse that I actually agree with!" and leave it at that...
Especially if that Bible verse happens to be Matthew 7:1 "Judge not, lest you be judged..." 😅😂😁
… I am thinking of moving back to Australia , feeling lonely and misunderstood living in Missouri… and only expecting it to get worse. 😰🍀
"Taken by force" doesn't mean rape?? Hey, '7-Day Guy', GIVE IT UP!!!
I thought that Terry was going to claim that it was just kidnapping (as if that's not also immoral). But he seemed to argue that it was just a man and a daughter agreeing to marry each other without seeking permission or approval from the daughter's father (and requiring permission or approval, and requiring compensation in the absence of seeking permission or approval, were okay because that was their culture).
I was thinking the same thing 🤣
I can relate to what Seth says about Australia. I migrated to Australia from America in 1982 and am so glad I did. There are no Bible Bashing going on in Australia, and the Prime Minister is just a mediocre practising Catholic that never mixes politics with religion. I feel sorry for Americans that have to put up with the Christian Nationalists movement nonsense.
A myth written in Hebrew is still a myth.
A god has to come down from his throne in heaven...?
Give me a break.
@@JamesRichardWiley Why did he need a throne, anyway?
The rage in my being is off the charts!!!!
Hi Seth. I just wanted to say Thank you!!!! It's so comforting to have you and others like Matt Dillahunty down here in Austin to help me get through all of the crazy bulkshit that is going on.
It’s effing everywhere and has been since forever. I’m past my mid-60s and back in the early 70s I assumed these sorts of people/ideas were withering away.
AND, the next person who says ‘Have a blessed day!’ I’m going to say ‘Are you a believer, too?’
And while he or she is beaming, I’ll say, ‘Well, Hail Satan to you, too!’
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If I lived in the USA right now, I'd emigrate north. If Trump is reelected, I'd even emigrate south. Or start swimming.
Australian here. Yeah, we are insane. We live in a country where everything is actively trying to kill us.
That said, our politicians aren't as balls-out bonkers as yours (well, not all of them).
I live in New Zealand now, and it's awesome. Not as hot, rains more, no animals that want me dead.
About the same when it comes to religiosity.
Much love from "down under".
As the official spokes person of New Zealand, I officially invite all sane people from around the world to come join us here and we can all live together and forget the insanity going on in the crazy lands across the water, but seriously as awesome as that would be, that would be selfish of me, we need people to push back against the fundamentalists who's sole goal it seems is to lure Jesus back to the world so he can end it
@@chrisharris1522 Send me some Speight's and a Buzzy Bee, and we'll talk.
The WTF after that crazy guy 😂
I think that should be clipped into a sound bite.
@@vincentcomeau7844 or ringtone
To anyone up in arms over Roe, I hope for a minute you will consider the bigger picture. The timing of this is no coincidence. Once the Jan 6th committee hearings began, we started to hear murmurs of this as a smoke screen. Only after the last hearing, knowing there would be a whole month before the next scheduled hearing did the scotus make this decision. They did this to get everyone distracted and agitated. I'd look for another bonkers decision when the next series of hearings resume.
Now that there is a "surprise" hearing, it will be interesting to see if anyone pays as much attention or if the diversion worked.
You can also make the argument that the timing will help the Democrats in November. It also pulls millions into politics making it more likely they will watch the hearings. Your argument doesn't hold water.
@@apathyguy8338 "Dead Cats" does have a tendency to bounce right back into the face of the one that threw it on the table. :P
@@apathyguy8338 I think Mark A is correct as to the intent of the timing. I wish you were correct as to the backlash of more people watching the hearings, but, from my limited observations, it appears the majority currently prefer getting the abbreviated version of events from their favorite "news" or social media, so they can comfortably filter "reality" with their confirmation bias
I think that you missed the mark on this. Overturning Roe has been in the works for generations, the SCOTUS took up Dobbs long before any of the January 6th hearings were scheduled, Dobbs and several other cases are being decided before the end of regular SCOTUS session, and both the hearings and Dobbs should make most Americans stand against Republicans and so-called "conservatives."
Also, it's up to law enforcement agencies to prosecute the people who were involved in trying to overturn the election or otherwise keep Trump in office after he lost. There is plenty of public support for that, but also it's not dependent upon public support.
@@loki2240 true to a point, but this is a tactical skirmish in a much longer battle
My Sister In Law wanted my wife to give someone we didn't know our baby crib. My wife said no. My SIL said "But it's the Christian thing to do." My wife then informed her "But I'm not a Christian." OMG! Fortunately there were only a few comments, but very pointed. My FIL and MIL just stayed out of it. I don't think they really believed. We have a lot of heavy duty Christians around us, but they accept us heathens without trying to convert us. I consider us lucky.
Where I’m from it’s always the people in the most religious area that ask the most for second hand goods and want to pay the least when it’s them buying stuff.
Love the Dilahuntyesque hang-up there Seth. LOL
47:37 So, "taking by force" (the callers words of how the text should be translated there) somehow doesn't mean what it totally sounds like, but getting into a (totally consensual) sexual relationship with her without asking her father". Really? Taking by force? His argument is that "taking by force" means not asking dad? Pull the other one.
That's his whole argument. He knows it's dishonest.
The guy that said YOUR interpretation of the Bible is wrong because "Hebrew", appears to actually be saying that EVERY translation of the Bible is wrong. So where's his complete, "properly" translated version of the Bible?
Yeah, I've dealt with more than my share of these believers, over the years, and I used to be one myself. They sit on their computers and do tons of "research" to convince themselves that the Bible isn't really the book of horrors that it reads as being. They usually end up at the conclusion that the Bible has been egregiously mistranslated, warped, and mangled to the point of being useless if not read in the original Hebrew and Greek. Yes, thousands of Bible scholars, over hundreds of years have all fumbled the translation of the book that is arguably the most influential piece of literature in western civilization. I mean, of course, what other explanation could there be? Cyber-sleuthing the Bible in hopes of finding out what it "really" teaches is what believers do when they cannot accept its moral ugliness.
I think it would be useful for Dr Bowen and others to correct this guy and in turn correct his audience.
@@TeachCriticalThinking Only if he finishes it off with his Hovind impersonation.
@@TopLevelSigma I agree. There remain a few tidbits of wisdom there, but most of it is useless trash now, thanks all the revisions and "corrections".
I'm in northeast Texas and am looking for somewhere else to go.. Everything is so expensive but i feel it's just time to get out.. Texas has sent a clear message to women that they don't matter and they are dispensable to men..i need to go
Hell i kind of just want to leave the U.S. oh I'm sorry i meant the New Saudi Arabia
Is it the right time for a Muslim group in Maine to start a Religious Academy, then encourage students to seek government funding? Just to test the credibility of the courts!
Thanks Seth for venting exactly how I feel!!
The Cassidy Hutchinson hearing was 🔥🔥🔥
poor Seth, you really sound like you could use a hug 🫂
That jittery guy is a new one, quite entertaining. He has called other shows with different names. I can imagine how he has trouble staying on his chair, shaking with his wisdom over authorities and all the people of the world, wisdom he has gathered from "research in the net". And its notable, like before, he didnt answer a single question he was asked, and everyone seems to let that slip by. Not that it really matters. And i have a feeling, that character like that doesnt get many friends in life.
Plus he confuses "interpolation" and "interpretation".
We would love you here in AUS. Great news too is that Aus is less and less religious, last years Census returned great news on almost half the country being non-religious. Stay strong Seth.❤️
Us Kiwis think Aussies are insane though Seth, come here instead dude ;-)
Whats so funny about Peace, Love and Understanding?
Good call Nat.................also there are plenty of tennis clubs here. You'll fit right in Seth. Also, there are very few escamgelicals here in Aus. Most religious people belong to mainstream Christian religions like Anglican and Catholicism so don't really cause too many issues. And guns are never mentioned.............................just saying.
Steven Hawking said there's no God . I'll take his words way before I'll take some Bible thumping Okeys . Science is good enough .
I'm waiting for Scotland to gain it's independence and then I'm going to do whatever I can to move there!
Me too! I fell in love with Scotland in 2017 and I think about going back/moving every day!
Don't wait You very likely won't notice much difference, with or without independence
The guy claims he's done a lot of research on the golden ratio and then said "it's half of pi", obviously either had done no research on the golden ratio or doesn't know the value of pi. Golden ratio starts with 1.618... double that you get 3.236 which is not pi.
It's essentially numerology. Seth is correct that it's based around pattern seeking
I get told to move often but....this is my home, where my family memories are, where I feel close to my dad (now gone), where I own my home....why should I leave? I will stay and fight for my home and my rights even though it feels hopeless...yes I too fantasize about leaving but why should I?...and yes I am in Texas
Seth.. you don’t have to go as far as Australia. You would be most welcome here in Canada.
And would Canada allow a retired American to move there?
@@forrestgossett Certainly. Although these days I understand there is a backlog of applications from around the world and especially from Ukraine and Afghanistan due to the conflicts in both countries. ✌️
Okay, you killed me with the Evie joke 😭
But holy crap, your callers fully embody why I prefer the company of women to that of men.
When you mentioned the dying brain and connected it with Margorie Greene, it made me think that her dying brain is putting up one hell of a fight and it's going down kicking and screaming.
Yes! I laughed out loud and had a similar thought.
Everyday they seem crazier than the days before.
Boebert and lots of Americans claim Jesus and then believe that they are forgiven for not reading scripture. Jesus is used as a pass for committing all kinds of wrongs.
If she was such a good christian as she pretends to be, she would cover up and shut up as a woman ought to according to the buybull.
I miss my people too! You did a great job handling all the crazy that came through on these calls.
"OH NO! The book famous for using euphemisms, and metaphors might have used a euphemism while describing what to do with a rapist? I am shocked"...
The stuff going on is unreal...the christian nationalist and the things they say....unreal... Cant believe that adults would say these things. I have been othered for my atheism which is minor considering what some people are "othered" for. The throw out the most ridiculous things. While on my way to the AANC i stopped in with old friends in TN that are theists. THey said that you cant have a good, moral life with out a higher hierarchy. I said why not?? No good answer to that. I am still trying to figure that one out! She and I have been friends for 40 years and this is not the same person i used to know. We didnt go any farther that the fact that she and her husband voted for trump. I was afraid to ask if they saw him as the next mesiah as i was truly worried about what they would say and what i would say. Sometimes it is better if one doesn't know.
Anyway Seth, keep up the good work and trying to make sense of the world as it is!
I think their religion has infantilized their world view.
@@bokononbokomaru8156 It sure has
As Aussie I can safely say we'd love to have you and Natalie your welcome any time mate 👍😁
I live in Moore, OK, and Seth, I ABSOLUTELY agree with everything you said! I've had to work VERY hard to get my mental health back on track after the last 4-5 years. And I noticed those damn commercials, too.
The obnoxious caller Terry at 43:52 is trying to make scripture come out right to fit his own beliefs.
when you get into a theological argument with a person who is a Christian, you get into a situation where the advocate and the judge are the same person. That is to say, Jesus is judged the best man in the world by the standards of Christianity. Because those are the standards with which this kind of person judges. And therefore-and you’ll find that people who leap to these judgments usually don’t know very much about any other kind of religion. The courses on comparative religion in theological schools are shockingly superficial and grossly inaccurate.
They don't even know the other sects of Christianity much less the history of their own denomination.
It is sh^t like that which makes me particularly grateful for my World Religions course at my Catholic high school. The teacher may have been a fully ordained minister, but he was Western Orthodox, a former USAF chaplain, and quite open to using all religious philosophies and not simply to try to steer people to Christianity - he even encouraged me to seriously consider atheism when I began to seriously question my faith.
Yeah, my class was a real unicorn, and given that it was at a Catholic high school in San Antonio, Texas, that would make the class - to use an MLP term (sorry if you are offended) - a real alicorn.
@@DavidRichardson153 I wish I would have had a class like that. I learned about other religions by riding buses and being approached by Mormons, JW, and various Born Again Christians. They were effective in convincing me that it was all a mess.
@@jamesparson To be completely fair, he did not exactly bring in anyone of any sort of authority from another faith or religion, but he did direct us to such - he even included Islam, which was really something, given that I had this class in the 2005-2006 school year. Still, he did what he did, and I cannot thank him enough for it.
Plus, I ended up acing the course because I ended up doing both versions of the final he offered the class. We could either take a standard exam, or we could give a presentation on a more modern religion, such as the Mormons (that student presentation was literally the extent of the coverage that one was given) and even Jediism. I was the only one who took the standard exam, and the whole class, including the teacher knew I was *the* Star Wars fan in the whole school, and I ended up giving all of the information - and even helped track down sources - my classmate used when he gave his presentation on Jediism. For that classmate, the teacher still gave him his full marks, but he also gave me a bonus that raised my overall grade in his class from a near-perfect score to an actual perfect score, so 😁👍
The clout chaser at 43:50 was hilarious. "I *D E S T R O Y E D* so and so in a video." How very old testament of you, buddy 😛
Yeah, that guy has called into many atheist shows and claims to "destroy" people. He usually talks about the seven day cycle, and how it is proof that the whole world is under the rule of the god of the bible. When his arguments are rebutted and dismissed, he smugly claims victory. His arguments are so stupid that most hosts are at first unbelieving that he is even trying to use them. He is extremely arrogant and a serious asshole.
He’s like Monty Python’s Black Knight: “Tis but a scratch”.
I would go to Australia as well! And their accent is AMAZING! But they do have some absolutely nutterbutter fundamentalist as well, people like Ken Ham, the guy who started Answers in Genesis, is from Australia. So, they may not be quite as far as we are right now but for how long?
I live in Southeast Oklahoma. There was a kid (probably in his early 20s) last night when I went to vote. The lady asked, "dem or rep". He said, "I don't know what I'm registered as." so she looked it up. She's looked through her binder and looked at him and ask, "How do you feel about being a Democrat?" and he's replied with disappointment but still respectfully, "That's not too good ma'am". She laughed and shook her head, "well that's what you are registered as". I was like, wtf... who doesn't know what party they registered with. I've been proudly registered as an independent for years but just changed to Democrat this year. I've been told I should have registered republican and voted for someone they wouldn't want to vote for.
WHY do you need to register, and why register as dem or rep?
In The Netherlands every citizen who turns 18 can vote without registration. You’re sent a voting pass for every election. Non-citizens who are registered as an inhabitant can vote in regional and local (municipal) elections. No electoral votes either. That’s what a democracy looks like.
The "Golder Ratio" is real, but there are many cool patterns in nature. PI is "magical", for a better word. They are just the way the Universe fell into place.
I take comfort in knowing that 100 years from now an atheist will be very hard pressed to find a creationist to debate with .
one can hope
The notion of humanity still being around in 2122 is an admirably optimistic take.
That's only if the theists are stopped in their efforts to rush the entire planet into their imagined afterlife
Wow... Seth is hitting all the high notes both in the contents of this podcast and with his voice! Sounds good!
Seth gave Terry exactly 8 minutes and 32 seconds more airtime than I would have.
I watched a professor explain fascism it started in Italy and then Hitler grabbed hold of it as I listened I realized fascism and theism are almost identical
I’m reading a book called The Aryan Jesus and boy is it eerily familiar.
It almost certainly was in Spain.
@@buildingcollege it was also in Spain, but i believe fascism was actually created in Italy with Mussolini. He actually created the name. But yes, Franco was also fascist in Spain.
@@cullenarthur8879 I agree. I was just really making the connection between church and facism. It is still apparent in parts of Spain.
The catholic church sure loved the fascist regimes. Probably because they had a similar goal.
The 'phys' guy (I think it's about 30 mins' timestamp) is pretty full of pseudoscience bullshit. My major is physics and math, and currently, I am doing my honours year (Australian education system equivalent to master's in America). I think I can very confidently say that he just threw a bunch of word-salad which has nothing to do with real-world physic research, and definitely, those topics have nothing to do with spirituality! It's very upsetting to hear people doing that.
Fascinating topics here, this podcast shows just how odd those conversations can get. I'm a compassionate atheist and a vegan. The idea of personal investment seems important here. A very similar thing is going on in veganism too. I can understand how a butcher or a pastor when faced with a compelling alternative fact might see the losses they'd have to face if they changed their mind, and they might find it rather daunting. That choice between disturbing new information and comfortable familiarity is a tough one, maybe some people just aren't up to it.
Congratulations on being a vegan. I am too.
"I like being around with like minded people, but not with those who act like lunatics."
Guy in minute 43:53 is going to upload a video explaining how he "destroyed" Seth Andrews on its own show 😂.
Indeed, like the proverbial chess playing pigeon! I'll bet he'll have a video titled "I OWNED Thinking Atheist! Must watch!" What a dip shit! 😂
He’s Monty Python’s “Tis but a scratch” Black Knight.
I recently saw a ReligionForBreakfast video about all of Buddhism's hells, and at the end it's mentioned that a Buddhist named Samuel Bercholz had an NDE in which he took a tour of every level of Buddhist hell. To me this just proves that NDE's are all dependent on the experiencers' beliefs.
Of course it is.
Sure Seth I can see it all now.. the next shit-show will be when gay rights end up right out the effin window! The whole god-damned country is turning into a 3 ring circus!
And contraception. That's in their sights too.
I wonder when other countries are going to start allowing Americans semi-refugee status entry.
Let’s make mixed race marriages illegal for republicans
Hey Seth, I love your channel! Something related to some of your interests mentioned,
The youtube channel "JCS Criminal psychology" is I think right up your alley. The way this channel breaks down cases is very detailed and addicting to watch.
Caller Loretta, I just gotta say, you sounded just like Terri Garr and I love you for that. If you read this, just know you are adorable🥰
Lol, Get Em Seth... Loved this one.
I moved to Australia, and good god (lol) it is very nice living in a place where people don’t push religion on you all the time. And I work in a church-owned business, and live in an area with heaps of churchy types. They’re all so cool about it!
I was born here, and lived here almost 54 years so far... I've had /zero/ conversations include "So, what church do you go to?" Recent census data has "no religion" at 40%, so I think it'd be fair to say most here are some sort of believer, but nobody I know treats it as anyone else's business. Well, unless you start trying to "talk about out lord and saviour" to them - even the zealots seem to get a bit short sometimes, then.
@@CyberiusT it really is an interesting cultural difference! Even tho I was from a fairly left-leaning state in the USA, I would still get passed religious pamphlets while at work, people tried to pass out bibles outside our school, my family on one side are all veeeeery “America is Gods country” about everything… and then to suddenly be faced with none of that…. I can only imagine how much of a relief it would be for atheist Americans who grew up in the Bible Belt to experience Australia.
Down under? Come on, too poisonous and too hot! Come to Germany :) - we have tons of non-believers here (not where I live sadly, Bavaria is Germany's Texas, but everywhere else!) and most of us at least understand English :) - I also happen to live alone, so yeah I do have a guest-room :D ^^
I'm kind of surprised that you didn't catch the hypocrisy of that one guy saying the original Hebrew word included "by force" and yet he says it's her choice. Then he references another bible verse and, if it was her choice, then that rule doesn't apply, so it's a non sequitur. He also seemed to dodge your question and assume that, even if he won that argument, that it proves all the other countless claims true. I see a megachurch preacher in the making.
That guy is a prize idiot. He has rung every atheist show with continually dumbass arguments. He also thinks giggling like a twit makes him seem clever and it really doesn't.
When he said “It doesn’t say rape in the original Hebrew! It says taken by force!” I’m thinking to myself “Dude, taken by force is just another way of saying rape 🤦”
@@86thrasher Exactly. This "other example" he gave doesn't even apply to Seth's point.
@@Xelger That’s Christian fundamentalists for you. They’ll come up with all kind of mental gymnastics and justifications for the atrocities that the Bible promotes. Take genocide and the murder of pregnant women which also proves God is not “pro-life”. A Christian fundamentalist will justify it by saying “ Oh those people were of evil and an immoral culture that practiced sinful acts such as idolatry, and homosexuality!” All they’ve just told me is that if they were in the military they’d have no issue committing a war crime against civilians.
Historically speaking look at how Europeans viewed non-white, non-Christian cultures such as the indigenous people when the Spanish, French and British came to the Americas. The rape, murder and enslavement of the indigenous people and the idea of “White Man’s Burden” was biblically inspired. Deep down inside Christian fundamentalists know I what they’re trying to defend is wrong, but of course they’re scared of some bogeyman called Hell.
I live in Texas and planning for my exit to Las Vegas NV in the next few months!! If I could afford to move to another country, I would!! I will not be celebrating anything patriotic anymore and will no longer pledge allegiance or sing the national anthem!!
I think that New Zealand would be a good place to live. Very beautiful ❤️. & SANE!
Short Hebrew lesson:
If you insist on picking the Hebrew word in the bible “tefasa”, when you translate it the full meaning is - he caught her.
It is an action that was done by a male to a passive/non-consenting female.
It is still rape in the Hebrew meaning since in Hebrew the word rape “o-ness” have a double meaning. It also means forced.
It's more than that- it says ותפשה ושכב עמה- "and he grabbed her and had sex with her." And in the next verse, the phrase תחת אשר עניתה- because he forced her- makes it clear that this is not consensual.
I am relating to you here Seth. I find myself considering what it would be like to live outside the southern US, or maybe just get out of Texas. I'm hoping to come to see you when you come to Houston this summer!
I'd love to have that smug caller be my slave under biblical law. I bet he wouldn't like it
Separation of church and state or we seek to be governed by a god like Allah.
That loud facepalm after the UAP/Physics/Eastern philosophy caller must have left a bruise.
Listening to the second caller… it’s Coast to Coast AM with Seth Andrews.
I once lived with some Buddhist monks and Catholics, not at the same time. Who would often say seeking refuge and providing shelter well if you're ever in Colorado my Goodwill is extended to you and yours Seth. I don't have a big house but I would certainly make some space (•‿•)
Does anyone care about how unwanted kids will be raised?
What about parents who r not good at parenting and would rather not bring a child into the world?
What about those who don't want to bring a kid into this chaotic crazy world?
Many religious people don't believe in master bastion, what a guy to do?
Very rare that Seth manifests impatience, but was still polite in getting rid of the guy who said The Greatest Podcast in The World isn't telling THE TRUTH! Salute Seth!
honestly that sounds really sceary. And I have the feeling it is gonna get worse. get out when you still can or beprepaired to fight with every thing you got.
It makes realize how rare and precious intelligence really is...
And hey... any shrink worth his insurance is gonna say that ranting is a healing practice.
Nope, they aren't done yet. Thomas is actively advertising wanting to continue the activism. But there will also be a significant amount of economic and political damage done by that court. They were put there by corporate interests every bit as much as religious ones.
I can only say that there are a lot of people outside of America (myself included) looking on with a lot of concern regarding what is happening in America right now. The phrase "Think outside of the box" comes to mind. Sometimes that leads people to Woo, but sometimes it's just good to get out and realize that the bickering going on inside that box is just completely off the rails and has nothing to do with any broader reality. Like walking out of a contentious meeting hall and realizing that there is a park and a mountain range. You get a breath of fresh air and realize, "Wow, those people are arguing bitterly and viciously about NOTHING, just for the sake of arguing." A lot of people support you all so everyone try to focus on continuing to do good, to help make life a little bit better where we can.
They know we're right and they are losing their minds. Just survive the madness and enjoy the show =]
I could NEVER live in a state like Sucklahoma Seth. I don’t know how you do it.
Sucklahoma, I literally laughed out loud at that one. Thank you for the laugh.
@@timsimpson5129 You’re welcome… 😁
Hi Seth. I'm David from Australia. First a big thanks for all you do (yep, another one), you make a real difference. I was listening to this podcast, especially the bit where you were 'speculating' where to move to, whilst driving through the rain forest in the hinterland behind Byron Bay. This is a truly beautiful part of the world and I'm so glad I was born here. I was thinking that if you were to move you would be totally welcome here.
Interestingly we have just had the results of last year's census released and those who identify as "No Religion" (38.9%) are just 5% behind Christians (43.9%) and climbing. We are now the 2nd biggest belief demographic in the country. Yep, you'd like it here.
Thanks again
David Best
I feel the same way, but it is not just religion, it is strong belief in things (like Trump winning the 2020 election) that not only are false but can also be quickly and easily shown to be false. It's the whole idea that it does not matter whether something is true or not.
I think the indoctrination into believing impossible things made it easy for them to believe in other nonsense as well.
Kind of sad that othering is done so often by everyone it seems. Although I am glad you were able to find your people though. There have been many of us who haven't found their people yet. Good definition of yourself though I enjoyed it.
Will you ever come speak in New Jersey Seth?
I don't understand why the Catholic church is against abortion. The church won't recognized a fetus/child until it takes a breath.
Because if you allow abortion and contraceptives, how can they outnumber everyone else?
@@Luubelaar 😄
I was just taking sip of my soda when you said "Thinking about dying brain made me think about Marjorie Taylor Green".
Seth , have you ever snorked Mtn Dew? It ain't fun, buddy, and now my t-shirts a mess... Thanks, buddy 🤣
Haven't tuned in for a while, what a post!, 😁👍❤️
Seth, rural KS here. I understand the lonely feeling you speak of.
Come, Seth, come to Oz! I’ll drive you around myself! We’d love to have you!!!
Great episode. The callers did their part to keep the batshit flying.
Seth's head is going to explode? Mine did explode.
43:48 I am 99% certain that "Terry" is the seven-day cycle guy, aka Mr. Delicieux or the various other names he's gone by. th-cam.com/video/E5LF_uY1hL8/w-d-xo.html
Man that second caller really knows nothing about science lol. Rambling about things he knows as much about as a toddler does. What a waste of time