New Study: Beyond Meat vs. Animal Meat Showdown
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- This study replaced the meat that people ate with various Beyond Meat products to see if there would be any changes in TMAO and other health markers. The winner is....
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Many of you have requested a Miley Cyrus video so I will try and release a reponse tomorrow or the next day. It won't be very long since it can be summed up as: DHA is from algae.
Man, it must be boring doing those vids haha. I don't understand why so many people care. Unless they think Miley will watch your vid and go back to being vegan? You gonna address her in the second person? Haha. But while you're at it, I wonder if she was taking enough B-12. Too many vegans screw that up, and she's obviously not huge on supplementing. Also obviously wasn't eating enough calories, perhaps not enough plant protein and plant fat.
Edit: I changed my mind in response to Sadie Brennon below. You should totally do it
@@AGAU1022 Honestly, some celebs are changing diets like they're sexual partners. It's getting ridiculous! 😄
I wouldn't bother Mic, between the lack of proper diet and the volume of weed she smokes.
@@chrisbrookes88 nothing really you can do whatever you want but its disingenous to blame you "brain problems"on vegetables when you take loads of drugs and dont look after yourself properly or plan your diet well.
yeah, try to find an easy explanation for the failure of $200+ million net worth person who has struggled to see the obvious, in spite of the aid of the best nutritionists and medicine on the planet.
Every store that I walk into, I am constantly seeing new plant based options popping up every time compared to when I first went vegan 2 years ago. The demand for plant based options & veganism as a whole is rising massively. You love to see it
Yes! I've been seeing that too recently, even in a country with very few vegans, like Romania, where I live. It makes me really happy, and I'm also newly plant based which makes it 1000 times easier for me😊
Have to wonder if capitalism has anything to do with it 😳
I have been vegetarian for 30 years, and vegan for 5, and we are truly living in the golden age of processed plant based foods. Soooo many options compared to even 5 years ago.
Another great thing is all the recipes on the web: Bosh, Avant Garde Vegan, Happy Pear, these are all fantastic resources!
@@elloohno1349 allot. Not bashing the vegan diet, But it fits in cooperate bullshit. it's the next new thing, co2 friendly etc etc etc. The next new thing in it's prime is the most profitable. Media pushing plant based due to co2 ommision and "vegan" mafia honing into the beyond burger.Most of that mafia isn't into it for veganism or vegetarianism if thats a word, Most of them are into it for the money. Celebrities are also into it for money, gives them even more attention beeing a gamechanger in 2020.
I also love it that there are much more gluten-free fake meats now. As a vegetarian with celiac disease, there was a clear lack of that until recently, with most meat substitutes having gluten.
I tried the beyond/impossible meat recently and it was okay, I still prefer my beans lol
I had a beyond burger last week and it was delicious
Lol, bean burgers? They only slap when there real crispy
@@user-bj7jj2tx8s Bean burritos are better than burgers imo.
It depends. I like a good bean burger but so many place make a terrible burger.
the chipotle black bean burgers from Costco are absolute winners 👌
Beyond and Impossible - transition foods or a rare special treat, else avoid them as they are just junk food.
EXACTLY!
Agreed, ... unless you are a standard american dieter
Still much better than animal products.
The DJ yes
The irony is they are more likely more processed than beef burgers too lol
I think it is healthier then eating a meat burger but not healthier then eating a oil free homemade bean veg burger
I like that my rare junk food indulgence is now somewhat healthier than it used to be on my previous death diet. 👍🏼👍🏼
Exactly how I'm feeling !
I will never understand people who insist on eating their food while it is still alive.
@@v.a.n.e. vegans do. They blend chop mash and boil live helpless plants who only wanted to live!!!!! That's no less murder than eating beef!
@@melisand8295
eww, it was horrible enough to even imagine. I still can't calm down from the imagery of 29,000 RPM monsters with exceptionally sharp and blood-thirsty edges tearing, slicing, and brutalizing still living plants that beg and plead in agony to take their lives as soon as possible. frighteningly, vegan ruthlessness really knows no bounds.
baby? did you just say babies? I mean, dealing with ripe and grown ups is one thing but when it comes to babies it's a whole other dimension. the only extenuating circumstance is that your juicer is so noisy that, at least, wails cannot be heard clearly. @4862cjc
TEAM SMOKED TOFU !!!!
Thanks. I'll try it. Team mushroom here.
@@someguy2135 Uuuuu. Baked mushrooms are also great! :)
Ya know it used to be fun for me.But ..trying to be mature..the flatulence from smoked tofu rivals any egg , cabbage or meat farts I've ever had for sheer toxicity.Therein lies the fun.
No man, you are supposed to eat them.
@@geraldfriend256 Cannot confirm personally.
Beyond and Impossible are more focused on the environmental side of the animal product equation. You simply can not knock them for that. It is so clear to me that, at least, in this point in time, they operate in good faith.
money
@@acquaindigo3296 Well I think that goes without saying.
Have you actually looked into the environmental impacts of these fake burgers INDUSTRIAL processing? They're not made by hand in grass huts by crystal chakra aligned shamanic gurus. It's large machinery using chemicals that need washing and disposing as well as massive amounts of steam and pressure to get this "food" to the right texture.
Compare that to beef raised on grass and sunshine.
@@georgearnold841 almost everyone is eating factory farmed beef. Beyond products are a much better for the environment than that. Also beef raised on grass is a terrible industry for the environment that's why much of the amazon is chopped/burned down all the time for cattle grazing.
@@blackmarketarmy I'm sorry but those cattle in the amazon are not the grass fed grass finished beef people should be eating. That's done to meet the fast food demand for beef. You want to end horrendous environmentally damaging beef production, end fkng fast food. If people only ate local organic gfgf beef we'd eat less beef and the environment would be much happier. Then we could turn the millions of acres of farmland used for cattle feed into healthy organic human food production.
We don't just need to change what we eat but where we eat. How we eat. We don't need all this 24/7 convenience food available all the time. That's why we're fat and sick. Who the fk needs doughnuts, KFC, taco bell and burgers all day and night? Noone!
I'm a non-native speaker and the swap-meet hint explained it.
Very helpful.
As always another high quality video.
Especially liked that you keep true to your values and mentioned the possible conflict of interest.👌👍
I think this study is pretty nice since it showed that even incorporating processed plant-based food has significant beneficial effects on health (of course the environment as we). Many people think of going vegan very challenging because they think they would need to say goodbye to most of their favorite foods. But swapping meat source becomes a lot easier. TMAO is strongly associated with cardiovascular disease and some cancers, there are also some proposed mechanisms for impairment of endothelial function caused by TMAO. It could very likely be harmful by itself. It is very difficult to isolate TMAO from a meat-based diet and test whether TMAO is toxic by itself due to ethical reasons...
Hi! We actually can isolate TMAO levels by doing type of genetic study called a mendellion randomization study.
Those with genetically higher TMAO don't have a higher risk. So tmao is likely to simply be correlating alongside it or reverse causality
diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/68/9/1747
"We further found that T2DM (0.130 ± 0.036, P < 0.0001) and CKD (0.483 ± 0.168, P = 0.004) were causally associated with higher TMAO levels. Our Mendelian randomization findings support that T2DM and kidney disease increase TMAO levels and that observational evidence for cardiovascular diseases may be due to confounding or reverse causality".
Mic the vegan lost a debate with vegan doctor Avi Bitterman on tmao here
th-cam.com/video/b1TXEmkA9YY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Avi
If you still think you have an argument for TMAO being causal or even a modest risk factor, join the study archives discord server
Riley MacIntyre Thanks for your reply! I'll look into that! My PI is really interested in this, this is very helpful!!
@@rileymacintyre9678 exactly. They never read the research. It's the problem with cults... Informed fact deprivation.
I´ve no appetite for anything mimicking animal products but these are good for people in transition to Veganism.
I used to be the same! Someone bought be some plant burgers and I didn't want to be rude so I tried them and got hooked lol.
True
I agree. I did try a few products out of curiosity and the Beyond Meat burger specifically was so darn close to the real thing (as far as I remember) that I had to check the packaging multiple times lol I think it's really amazing for those who are transitioning but I've also had carnivorous co-workers tell me that they've been enjoying the occasional Beyond Meat burger as well!
So you don’t drink plant milks, eat tofu scramble, or eat nutritional yeast?
I kinda fancy a fake burger every now and then, just on the occasion it can be a treat
I actually like beyond burger more than beef. Much tastier.
Have you tried the Impossible Burger? Much juicier again, it runs circles around the Beyond (which is totally okay)
@@tzenophile unfortunately not available in my country :(
I’ve tried them all, doesn’t come close in taste to a real beef burger. (I eat meat occasionally) I actually prefer regular vege / vegan burger patties to the impossible/beyond patties
@@olegkogut2261 u must be delusional
I prefer a less beefy flavour nowadays but it is nice
the study had 36 participants. I had more guests for my twelfth birthday party.
With the cost of the Beyond burger, the study probably couldn't afford to expand anymore.
Plus it's funded by BM itself. This is actually not a study report YT video, it's a product placement commercial :-)
I never had a real b-day party
@@Artimidorus um, it's cheaper than meat?
the study had 36 participants, I have seen more people die by consuming animal products
It probably doesn’t cause gout and that’s a plus +
The gout-trigger purine is unfortunately also in legumes and some veggies like peas, lentils, spinach and asparagus.
@@Gaia_Seraphina but in WAY lower concentrations
Typically it's a genetic issue with flushing uric acid that causes gout. It's a bit like blaming peanuts for someone with a peanut allergy having a bad reaction. That being said, for those that do have the weakness, different foods can of course mitigate or advance the progression of gout at various rates
don't bet on it. pea, mung bean, and soy are also known for their high purine content.
@@v.a.n.e. whatever "known" means ...u can just google it and its far lower
After being diagnosed with cancer, I had major surgery last August and as far as can be told, am cancer free, I changed my diet, no pork or red meat, no sugar, no dairy and if I eat bread or pasta it is either whole wheat or vegan, I lost 34 pounds in 5 months and my annual blood work was excellent, a huge shift from last year, I use the Beyond meat Cookout Classic, I make chilli, spaghetti, soups, tacos, any recipe I could use beef, the only meat I still eat is eggs and a small amount of chicken, I feel so much better after changing my diet that I will never go back and hope to one day cut the remaining meat from my diet as well.
This video came out on my wedding day. Coincidentally, we had impossible burgers, beyond bratwurst, and beyond burgers for the reception instead of beef/turkey/chicken. Everyone seems to enjoy it!
Yeah you! That's awesome to introduce others to this food during your celebration!
I like that Mic is even critical and honest about vegan studies. I feel like he's much more reliable then other sources of health "gurus".0
Love your honesty about the studies, dude. Side note my lipid panel was horrible in February were horrible. I got my recent results 2 days ago and they were outstanding. I couldn't believe how much the numbers changed. I decided to celebrate by eating a full beef and cheese hamburger and it tasted like absolute crap. I was Keto 2 years ago and loved it. But I always wanted carbs. Being on a whole/minimally processed plant based diet I lost my taste for meat. I'm meat broken now. Thanks! :)
I was talking to my coworkers once and they said they liked A&Ws beyond meat burgers but switched back to regular burgers because beyond meat is unhealthier since it’s “packed with chemicals”
Lmao, implying that regular burgers aren't? Sure...
I hate when people say that! Literally everything is made up of chemicals. 🙄🙄🙄
@James Parker oh you have no idea. Being a scientist in this day and age you feel like an alien from another dimension🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
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Excellent video! We are both in our 80's and are all about healthy aging. We still strive for a healthy body, a calm mind, and a positive outlook. And we feel better than ever! Totally whole food, plant-based, no oil. We don't eat animal meat or Beyond Meat (loaded with fat). We are doing research for our new tiny TH-cam channel and learned a lot here. Thank you and keep it going!
I like Beyond and Impossible’s chances against animal flesh.
@I like Potatoes Meat is more inflammatory than whole plant based foods. Even some processed plant foods are less inflammatory. One of the benefits of a plant based diet is the reduction in inflammation. I noticed a difference. So have a lot of athletes who switched. Less inflammation means they can train harder and recuperate quicker.
You should consider buying their stock. It would be a bumpy ride, but in the long run, it is a good bet, I would say. The initial public offering was phenomenal, and the stock price is way above where it started.
@I like Potatoes Meat products are objectively more inflammatory than plant-based foods lol
@I like Potatoes Since you provided no link, I Googled "inflammation index foods" and clicked on one of the links there. The list showed red meat, eggs, and other meat in the inflammatory category. Refined grains are on the list as well, but if those products were made from whole grains, they would be less problematic. The list of anti-inflammatory foods were entirely plant based foods, except for certain fish, due to omega-3 content. I get my omega-3 from plant sources, and a DHA supplement made from algae. Algae is the original source of omega-3 in fish. Here is a copy and paste of the chart listing the pro-inflammatory foods. "
"Pro-inflammatory foods +2 points +1 point 0 points
Red meat, processed meat, organ meat ≥7 times/w 2-6 times/w
@I like Potatoes I couldn't find the index you were referring to because you did not provide a link. The internet is a very big place. Maybe if you went vegan, your brain would benefit enough for you to learn how to post a link.
I'm offended that you would call me a non-English speaker, as i did not know what a swap meet was. I see that the name they used for the study was quite clever and a very nice pun. :D
Great video! Thanks! As an infectious scientist working on COVID-19 I'm also worried about antibiotic resistant species and the role of animal agriculture in occurrence of more and more pandemics, more serious than COVID-19.
Thanks again for the video!
Personal Beyond meat experience:
Last summer I went to a restaurant that used to serve a more fresh menu. I really liked their black bean vegan street tacos but they switched the menu up. I ended up with a Beyond meat taco dish (and they only had fries, no fresh anything really) and it was just gross. I ate it anyway and I don't know if it was all the oil (since I don't use oil but if, on the rare occasion I eat out, I know restaurants use it and I am not usually affected by it) or if it was the Beyond meat or both but my gut was messed up for two weeks.
I am a WFPB vegan so I am not accustomed to the fake foods. That experience set in my mind that I will not eat fake meats. I lost my desire to eat any meat or fake meat years ago so trying the Beyond meat was an experience I will not forget. If you're WFPB, be aware of the potential for your system to be stressed out if you consume fake meats like the Beyond products. It is likely okay for those that either eat these processed foods on a regular basis or for those wanting to eat less animal products but a WFPB person that's been at it for many years may find the experience less than desirable.
@Eat the Rich I don't know where you live but there are non-soy vegan burgers out there that are quite tasty. :-)
I also eat a (mostly) WFPB vegan diet. Once you train your palate to appreciate whole foods, dabbling in processed food can be a slippery slope into more and more junk food, since the whole food can then become less appealing. For example, even though I enjoy plenty of fruit, cutting out sugary processed food has helped me to appreciate the more subtle sweetness of carrots.
Interesting that you experienced that.
About 3 years prior to going vegan,
My body stopped being able to digest
ANY/ALL dairy. I had thee most HORRIFIC
experiences whenever i would consume
any dairy. It finally clicked in my thick skull,
that those painful digestion issues i had, only happened when i consumed dairy products.
So i stopped doing that immediately after
the last, 8 day ordeal of physical pain i
endured when i used a cup or so of the
Daisey brand sour cream on some tostadas
i had made for Superbowl weekend 2012.
I felt like i was going to die.
On June 1st 2015, i FINALLY went 100% vegan.
A year or so after that, i found that
my body is no longer able to digest textured
soy, almonds, almond meal, flax meal, macadamias, hazelnuts, Brazil nuts.
Which is a genuine shame for me,
since i had perfected a TVP recipe
i had been working on in the year
leading up to my body no longer
being able to process that foods.
Now, i eat processed vegan meat substitutes every other month.
@@santiagohardy2728 I am glad that you have found a vegan diet that works for you. Kudos for not giving up at the first problem!
@@someguy2135 😊👍
Knowing what i know,
seeing what i have seen in the
past 5 years, i will not go back
to eating like i use to.
I have zero desire to.
oo yeah! love this video we needed this
A BBQ is not a BBQ without beyond burgers!
Packs a lot of information very quickly into short videos. Thanks Mic.
I think Beyond and Impossible are better than animal flesh just for the environmental benefit alone. I agree with you that mock-meats shouldn't be eaten too frequently. I'm thrilled with any decrease in animal products for the most people.
i think it's terrible. i think the want to be slaves should eat the mock meat, hell ill even buy it for them! as long as i get the real stuff.
I feel like for long time vegans mock meats can be too meaty! We don't miss animal products, we love a good black bean burger. But I'm so glad that these products exist for people trying to eat less meat but don't know how.
Yea I only have those when we go to a cookout and dont want to make me look so odd. I am seeing more people in the know about the benifits of a plant based diet. My moms neighbor had cancer and went based because of doctor recommendation and is alive today because of it
The other is a friend of my son's grandmother who also fought off cancer with whole plant foods
My wife said she would never go plant based and that I was just talking balogny. God help her. My kids are all on the fence about it because my wife doesnt believe in it. My kids do see my health and energy level at 49 almost 50 years old. Also I weigh less than I did in highschool which is nuts. I wish more people wood see the light and from the people I have met lately there is more people getting on it. The more that do the easier it gets.
Looking as fresh as always! 💚
Does anyone else find Mic absolutely BEAUTIFUL!?!?!
He's so gorgeous!! 😍
I know 😍
Mic successfully objectified
Vegan Socialist ayeeee vegan leftists come together
trumphobic UwU
Except for that silly haircut.
I tried Beyond Meat Bratwurst, Italian sausage, and ground beef. Tastewise, I would ONLY buy the groud beef again.
It lowered LDL and may help with heart disease. Sounds like you can eat less meat and get the same results
These meat alternatives, in my view, serve especially to open people's minds to plant foods rather than to replace meat entirely. I don't think a single vegan has ever considered making high-fat fake meat a staple of their diet.
Anyway, as someone said above, I'll stick to my beans.
Edit: a word
We need a long term study to know the difference. I think some processed foods were initially seen as healthy but aren’t anymore.
I have never eaten Beyond Meat and never will.
Occasionally I'll enjoy a Beyond product, but mock meats aren't a dietary staple for me so I never cared about how "healthy" a Beyond product is. That's like trying to argue that Twizzlers are healthy because they're vegan. Junk food is junk food.
I noticed that, when I began to eat beyond meat, my last bit of stomach bulge/fat, rather suddenly began to reduce.... and I'd been watching calories to no effect, before. I have now started eating beyond meat fairly often.... one beefsteak tomato or two smaller tomatoes, a burger, maybe an avocado, and lots of mustard (no bun/no extra carbs) is my main meal. Me gut is remaining slim and I'm really, really happy about that. By the way... very tasty and predictable tasty. I cook 7 min in a George Foreman type ceramic sandwich thingee. Still tastes great when overcooked. Just did my annual blood work, I'm on hormone replacement therapy, and my counts were all normal.
That's awesome
Thanks for this info, i can now bookmark it to refer to. So grateful for your always reliable knowledge.
It's basically what I expected. Eating Beyond Meat is slightly better than eating normal meat but not by a whole lot. It is still a processed food, after all.
Love how you discuss study design. Way more fun to listen to than some of my epidemiology professors.
I prefer impossible burger. Any study for that one?
He did a video on that a few months back.
i prefer both bcuz they’re both great.
Just a note, Impossible Foods isn't vegan because they did experiments on animals.
They do market a lot to the population of meat eaters, so it’s nice to see that they can get essentially immediate benefit from a simple switch like this!
The fact alone that an animal doesn't have to give up it's life in the production of Beyond Meat is good enough for me. I only eat Beyond products occasionally since I'm trying to transition to a whole foods Vegan diet.
I’m a native English speaker and I didn’t know that swap meets were a thing until this video
I love Beyond Meat burgers, the key is, don't cook them, heat them up, like in a medium heated pan 4-5 minutes per side (I still like getting that sear on top and bottom), and boom, the juiciest burger you ever ate. However, at a restaurant they will cook it, so if that's your only experience, they made it incorrectly, and you didn't get the great experience you should have.
Maybe lightlife wrote that line about plant based burgers being ultra processed 😂 they hate that beyond meat hahaha
I am a vegan and I love Beyond Meat. However, to say that everything that is statistically significant is caused by Meat Swap w/ Beyond Meat is just wrong (e.g. weight loss or other aspects mentioned in the video). In addition to this, a group of 38 people is way too small (not saying the bigger, the better.)
I'm just saying that this kind of statistics, meaning "let's just make a test and highlight everything that has a statistical significance" is not the way Freedman intended it to be.
Those meat alternatives are pure, processed junk food. If people prefer to eat them for non-health reasons then that's great, but I'm not sure why anyone would kid themselves that they're a healthy choice.
No doubt I think the use of imitation meats like Beyond Burger will have a dramatic impact when it comes to the environment.
I'm still a little bit more skeptical when it comes to human health. I think they can serve as being a kind of "transition" food, but should not be relied on day-to-day. But I guess time will tell!
Had a boca burger for dinner lol
Theyre so good. I like them better than the beyond.
In my country that’s the only brand we have I personally really enjoy it but again I have never have the beyond 🤷🏽♀️
I like those too, but I prefer the Beyond (I cook them in a press which helps to drain away a lot of the oil)
@@avinashtyagi2 Good tip! I sometimes blot vegan products with too much oil, but your idea is even better.
I wonder what meat they used for the studies? I would think that would really changes the outcome. Burger from MacDonalds vs let's say a cow that was feed a good diet and not factory farmed/ pumped with hormones. I am vegan myself but I do think there is a sliding scale with regaurds to the quality of meat. Although this doesnt change environmental impact it should change health impacts.
Good points.I would add that grass fed -finished beef has almost no carbon impact next to factory farmed processed faux meat.Also much happier cows so is much more ethical and sustainable.Generally done on land that can't grow food crops anyway .
I like the way beyond is tackling these studies, point by point, giving the corpse industry a fighting chance against the data.
I'm still messing up an impossible whopper from time to time lol.. I always say I'm not on a "diet", I just don't eat meat 😅😂
I like that I'm gonna say the same too
Wonderful video as usual. Thanks Mic!
Also making veggie burgers (from oats and vegan soup) is so much cheaper and easier than buying premade products.
just ate 2 beyond burgers an hour ago
How much are they where you are?
i ate bacon and eggs a couple hours ago
@@keredification th-cam.com/video/rVR7NjnMkIc/w-d-xo.html
Beyond beef and impossible burgers help me with meat cravings. Sometimes I want to sink my teeth into a fatty burger and I’m glad I have these alternatives, especially because they are both gluten free.
I’ve been eating mostly vegan for 15 years and I love a Beyond Burger or sausage once or twice a week.
if nothing else it makes plant food the new hotness. But one of the effects of being WFPB is that you incorporate other flavours and styles and don't miss the meat so that's the next hurdle for beyond meat eaters. It'll really be about supporting companies with vegan options and we see that with major companies now because of decline in meat consumption
Good to know that even these highly processed foods are better for your health than the meat alternative. Thanks for the video!
I've had a beyond meat Burger at two different restaurants and they tasted like two different products. Both instances the sodium and fat content did effect me. Not used to so much fat even though it was coconut it took me a day or so to really process that through my system. To avoid having to take blood pressure meds I have to restrict my sodium 2 a thousand milligrams in a day and the only way I can circumvent the amount of sodium in Beyond beef was to cut the sandwich in half which still filled me up perfectly. Yeah I would not choose to make this a daily habit but once every couple of months perhaps until they offer half size patties and sausages.
you'd think if beyond meat funded the study, they would have made sure it's clearer and more usable. the results from this are barely usable. having it be longer AND having a cool down period before switching would not only be more accurate, but it looked like it would have proved beyond meat right. why they harmed themselves with this poor methodology is beyond me(at). i don't mind the eggs and dairy (well, i do, but not for this study), because they were looking directly at meat replacement and the health of the meats, and the average person eats eggs and dairy, so removing it in the plant burger diet would obscure the results from the swap meat.
Lowering sat. Fat and at the same time increasing seed oil consumption will increase heart disease.
A vegetarian at work just told everyone else to just go ahead and get the meat option bc the beyond “is so processed” and I’m watching this in spite 😤
in some european countries they serve it in a vegan burger at mcdumbnalds. it's not bad, not super healthy, but still better than anything with animal products. in Sweden they've even vegan mcnuggets. wish they'd have these in all mcdumbs all over the world :p
SWAP-MEAT is definitely one of the funniest and cleverest acronyms I've come across so far. Which says something considering the biomedical field is flooded with acronyms (and weird or 'creative' names for molecules etc.).
what about all the chemicals that go in the burger and causes alot more damage then heart disease?
Yes, 'body parts', I write that sometimes on facebook. Good to see the comparison: positive LDL takeaway and at least the mock, faux foods are not worse than meat in terms of sodium, chemicals etc. Thanks. (I myself of course wouldn't eat the mock meats but it's generally good to know.)
Due to a very specific protein allergy I can't eat bovine (beef, lamb, goat, bison), so in my opinion these products are great. I do prefer the flavor and texture of the impossible brand over the beyond brand.
Another amazing video, I always learn so much 💚✌️
Wouldn't say Beyond Meat products are 'more' healthy than processed animal derived meats, but maybe 'slightly less' unhealthy, if that makes sense..?
I agree with many others: keep it for the rare treat. I was eating a few too many Impossible Whoppers and all of a sudden my cholesterol numbers shot way up. Coconut oils and other saturated fats are not my friends and I respond poorly to them. (yes, I know cause and effect is not provable here, but it was really the only diet change I had made in my 99% vegan diet, so I will limit myself)
bro just pulled a chart comparing vegans to omnivores ad not vegans to full carnivores lol
I’m not sure it’s comparable since you said sodium intake was insignificant, but as someone who needs a high salt diet, I’ve actually noticed some decent weight loss myself.
My guess: eating more salt makes me much more thirsty which means increased water intake. Since I’m full up on water, I’m less hungry for snacks and oversized portions.
Obviously I’m no doctor, but the same effect could be happening here? If Beyond is more filling, you’d be less tempted to over-eat and therefore maintain/lose weight.
but dont those plant based meats have a ton of vegetable oils?
I’m a little Leary when It comes to the processed oil in the beyond/impossible meats
I think that people are missing the point of these foods. I went vegetarian at 18 for the animals and I am vegan now for the same reasons and my medical issues with dairy. Hamburgers and other things like it are not supposed to be eaten everyday and most people don't eat that way. I still eat for enjoyment. Every meal I eat I intend to enjoy. The key is to find healthier foods to eat that you like and still eat a burger when you actually want one. I genuinely crave a lot of healthy food like broccoli and tofu most of the time, but occasionally I want an Impossible burger and I don't deny myself that indulgence. When you actually enjoy most of your healthy meals you don't go for the other stuff as much.
My take is that it’s something that you should eat occasionally, not every day. Too much saturated fat.
As the technology of these faux meat products improves, I am sure one of the big priorities will be improving their health profile. Considering we are in the infancy of these foods, and they are getting so much better so much faster, I predict that as they become more economical, meat eating will become like cigar smoking, a odd habit adopted by people who want to show how edgy they are and have no concern for their health.
I’m currently eating a beyond meat beef taco and it’s really good it’s all in how you season it😌
I’ve tried beyond /impossible meat and honestly I’m not a fan. It’s too greasy and gives me the bloated feeling I use to get after eating meat. Which I don’t like. Also part of giving up meat was to stop wanting to taste animal flesh/muscle. I much prefer mushroom, bean or other burgers to these mock meats but I understand their purpose for aiding people to switching to a plant based meal plan. ❤️🌱
Too many ingredients. I think we need to stay away from processed foods. If you want a “burger taste” -then just eat a beef burger instead of some manufactured concoction. Just eat real foods!
Very interesting video and content in general. Happy youtube suggested your video to me!
What's next? Beyond Meat funding a study to show that coconut oil is a superfood healthy for you?
I'm getting into my third year of veganism, and as my life gets busier with work I have a new love for the beyond burger! Super easy, yummy, filling meal!
i feel the same way about beef, eggs, fish, bacon. So easy, yummy and filling!
So do I people are so skeptical but I enjoy it and one thing that I'm learning on my vegan journey is everything isn't 100 perfect and that's ok with me but the thing is we have so many choices nowadays
These Vegan/Vegetarian 'Processed Foods' are no good full stop - you will only get the health benefits by eating 'Whole Foods' - in my opinion. They are expensive as well - much cheaper to buy Fruit & Veg etc. Thank You Mic for all your info & working hard to educate people about diet.....it is appreciated -as there is so much 'Fake News' online. x :)
I eat beyond burger once a week and I’ll keep eating it
Me too
Mic,
I'm Vegan for my health and for animals and the environment.
I've tried Impossible and Beyond Burgers and they are good for the environment but not for me, I want to avoid oils and fat substitutes.
For those who aren't Vegan but want to transition. go for these products,it's a step in the right direction
but a new study just released shows the American obesity rate at the highest it's ever been, over 40%, the worst being young people.
So the answer isn't "vegan" burgers but low fat, low sugar, substitutes for meat, dairy etc, which
apparently isn't happening since the Obesity "pandemic" is one heck of a lot more dangerous than Covid.
Cheers,
Rik Spector
Go beyond! Go vegan #ForTheAnimals
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 where's your logic for eating meat?
Pacman McGavin you already have no good way to respond hahah
Pacman McGavin you arent making any sense how did you win and how did i lose
Pacman McGavin you stupid
Pacman McGavin wtf is wrong with you are you trolling or something because this isnt funny
Of course beyond meat is just a replacement for beef not for fruits, vegetables and other grains.
But it does a huge impact on environment and millions of animals.
Well it’s a product that some people can use to transition from carnivore to plant based.
Is anyone going to bring up the Journal of American Cardiology’s article on saturated fats and how its not bad for you after all? Or maybe we shouldn’t bring that up since it doesn’t align with our vegan agenda? The Funny thing is that it has always been that way. The power of belief.
"Is anyone going to bring up the Journal of American Cardiology’s article on saturated fats and how its not bad for you after all? " The reality is that it is a meaningless/dangerous article that draws on fatally flawed studies. Most studies and meta-analyses on fat only look at diets with 25% or more calories from fat, and the amazing benefits happen mostly around 7-15% calories from fat, so those studies claim "low-fat" diets don't work but never really studied low-fat diets. Also, in those studies you usually have people who were either eating too much saturated fat OR replaced that with highly-processed carbs, added salt and sugar, and chemicals. The research is clear that when your replace animal fat with lots of processed carbs, that causes as much disease as the animal foods/fat do, but when you replace them with low-fat whole plant foods, you get substantial improvements in health outcomes. So don't be fooled--the article doesn't prove anything and is built on an intellectual and scientific foundation of quicksand.
I’m not buying it. There is mounting evidence supporting how saturated fats are not problematic. Metabolic diseases began to increase as humans began to consume industrial oils and processed foods. Eating meat is natural and has been going on forever. Saturated fat as the problem doesn’t pass the “sniff test”
@@rjfriz5159 "I’m not buying it. There is mounting evidence supporting how saturated fats are not problematic." I can certainly understand why you wouldn't buy it, but please notice there is one set of researchers telling you saturated fat is no problem and another telling you saturated fat directly promote more heart disease and death. You might start wondering how that can be the case. I'm a university professor and researcher and part of what I study is how people get fooled about what works or what is true in various fields. In nutrition, part of the problem starts out with treating our current levels of disease (most of which would be wiped out by a healthy change in diet) as "normal." Then, any food/diet that CAUSES a little less disease gets labeled as "healthy" but if a food/diet doesn't cause any more disease than our very unhealthy diet does, we label it as "no harm." VERY few people eat a truly healthy diet in this country, so until recently, most studies compared one pretty unhealthy diet with another. What you learn from that is you can create roughly as much avoidable obesity, diabetes, heart disease etc eating high in animal fat and protein or high in processed junks foods. Can you create disease by eating lots of vegetable oils? Sure. But you can do the same with animal fat or added sugars/highly-refined grains.
But more recent studies show many diseases that we take for granted drop close to zero or zero if people eat the healthiest diet, which a a diet that is nutrient dense, very low in fat, and dominated by whole plant foods.
The people telling you saturated animal fat
isn't a problem forget to tell you that heart disease was already the #1 killer in 1900.
Take care.
Beyond meat tastes amazing, but 26€ per Kg is ridiculously expensive.
I'm 90% vegan at the moment AKA struggling vegan. About once a month I "treat" my self to a bit of meat. I think for me, if I have an impossible burger instead that will be a big improvement.
Thanks for all your videos, Mic! I rarely comment, but just wanted to say thanks!
Am I weird that I don't get - beyond meat and the impossible burger
I do make burgers and have meals
that mimic "meat" potatoes and two veg
The meat is usually a marinated tofu slice
I just don't crave the meaty texture.
Having said that it is good to know
that they appear to be marginally healthier
and better for the environment.
To reduce this LDL fats and stuffs we all can exercise. I feel the man made meats are not high in nutrients and vitB as Meat organs. And remember our body absorbs nutrients from natural foods better than man made supplements