This old man is one of the most wise man i even met in youtube. Its true...dont be something that you are not. Not be ashamed of what you are. Gyspies are extremly unique!!!
@@alenavekon1726 sinti Roma khale are independent groups they are all part of the so called gypsy families coming from old india .. we are one of the oldest Indian tribes living in India in the 5th century we were captured and taken to Persia than in Persia Iran one half were taken to Egypt other half to moors living there from the 5th century as servants musicians metal workers they helped the army with making swords from metal and than in the weekends they had to play music while they were partying kings soldiers ruled over us we were cheap labour plus entertainers .. now back in the day the Roma coming from the dom doma domari tribes of north india .. the sinti is coming from the sidh tribe today it would be called Pakistan where they lived in india .. the khale kale were living in India but I don’t know the location.. while each gypsy tribe were taken to Arabic countries and living there since 5th century they mixed with the locals there were also Arabic tribes who were slaves with us and also Jewish tribes .. so the gypsies mixed with local countries they lived in by the time we were taken to Europe by the Turks as slaves once again we were mixed each tribes mixed with different Arabic tribes .. so we are an mixed race living across the world 🌎 .. so there are little bit differences who we mixed that’s why we have many types of gypsy cultures etc .. but al of us basically Indian tribes who mixed with others sometimes forcefully sometimes not ..basically we are coming from the same country and back in the day are blood lines were one .. but today very mixed with many race ..
That was really interesting! Thanks for posting and translating this into English. For a moment I thought it was in Romani, but I quickly recognized it was something Slavic and lolled when I understand a word or two there (I can speak some Russian).
Half the words in Romani are understood by Rajasthani Indians. Bersh, diwas, manush salo sali .ek, do trin char . chora, chori, cuiri for knife tati for hot kaki for uncle are used by us even today. No doubt in my mind they left India about 1000 years ago at the time of great King Prithviraj Chauhan .Roma were mostly his soldiers. Roma use hiv for ice. its him in Sanskrit. gao is village. khelavan is game. sov is sleep. so on. Our lost brothers . I have list of 1000 words which are common.
Yeah well we came from India so it makes sense .. but not all of us come from one region we come from south India north India and including Pakistan .. our langue is the oldest Sanskrit language at least the majority of our basic words comes from the oldest Sanskrit language now the Iranians specially the Kurds also understands many words from our language .. that’s why they call our Romanes language an Indo-Aryan family language ..
Gelem, gelem, lungone dromensa Maladilem bakhtale Romensa A Romale katar tumen aven, E tsarensa bahktale dromensa? A Romale, A Chavale Vi man sas ek bari familiya, Murdadas la e kali legiya Aven mansa sa lumniake Roma, Kai putaile e romane droma Ake vriama, usti Rom akana, Men khutasa misto kai kerasa A Romale, A Chavale Puter Dewla le parne wudara Te sai dikhaw kai si me manusha Pale ka gav lungone dromencar Ta ka phirav bachtale Romensa A Rromalen, A chavalen Opre Rroma isi vaxt akana Ajde mançar sa lumáqe Rroma O kalo muj ta e kale jakha Kamàva len sar e kale drakha A Rromalen, A chavalen.
@@maryamshiva3457 Modern roma: Dzaneja so te kere The proper roma: Tu dzanes so te keres I do not know if the proper way is correct, because as they say, the proper one fades away sadly
i was prepared to not be suprised that roma language sounds very similiar and i thought so watching the first two men speak....then it turns out they were speaking slovenian, lol
They are in Europe most likely since 14 century,here they are pretty much the same skin tone as these people(sometimes darker,but still are capable of having blue eyes) for the exception for the blond girl,who is actually white. But she could be just a friend,who is learning to dance... I don't know most of older romani's are finished like only two-three years in school. They can't read,they can't write, because of that language can change a lot by mixing with whatever countries they visited and languages they also learned. Most of them there I live have Russian surnames,sometimes polish names... And I don't live neither in russia,neither in poland. Also this is completely copied from wikipedia; "Domari was once thought to be the "sister language" of Romani, the two languages having split after the departure from the Indian subcontinent, but more recent research suggests that the differences between them are significant enough to treat them as two separate languages within the Central zone (Hindustani) group of languages. The Dom and the Rom are therefore likely to be descendants of two different migration waves out of India, separated by several centuries.There are nevertheless remarkable similarities between the two beyond their shared Central zone Indic origin, indicating a period of shared history as itinerant populations in the Middle East. These include shared archaisms that have been lost in the Central Indo-Aryan languages over the millennium since Dom/Rom emigration, a series of innovations connecting them with the Northwestern zone group, indicating their route of migration out of India, and finally a number of radical syntactical changes due to superstrate influence of Middle Eastern languages, including Persian, Arabic and Byzantine Greek." In conclusion there are many para-romani languages, witch can different alot. Maybe the same words,but the pronunciation is unrecognizable,some words can be different,maybe the structure of sentences. They also have different religions.
Also I believe in the longer run they will just disappear. A thousand years,and they will assimilate more and more with the nations they are currently living with,becoming more and more a like... At the point they will completely lose the remaining roots of India. Whiter and whiter or darker. Accordingly to the weather and brightness of the sun of the area. Language will also probably assimilate. Evolution much,trying to survive.
@@claudiuhebkalo6903 Da dar bănuiesc că știi că în România sunt și "țigani albi" ( gabori cu pălărie ) care trăiesc prin Ardeal.. unii dintre ei au chiar parul blond și ochii albaștri
Pl see Romani Language 1, 2, and 3 on you tube from Adrian, Italian Roma gentleman from whom I learned many Romani words are ours too. Your names too loke Panna and Bihari are from Rajasthan, india. If u wish to know about your ancestors, pl find out about "Prithviraj Chauhan" and "Rajputs", your real tribe.
+♡ Winterbird ♡ No it is not. When we call it in Englisb language is Gypsy. That is what we are to you, as long as it isnt said in Slur, it doesn't matter.
Yes, there are quite a few Romani dialects, and that's not even counting mixed languages where Romani and a second language were blended together (an example of this is Anglo-Romani, spoken by the Romanichal in the UK). This is due to the Roma being traditionally nomadic (they're spread out and that meant they'd each develop their own distinct dialect as time went by) and also because Romani was, historically, exclusively an unwritten language. It's only been recently that there have been efforts to make one unified alphabet for Romani (in the past, native speakers have just been borrowing the writing system of the most common non-Romani language in the area, ex: Russian, Hungarian, Romanian, English). Sadly, we do not know as much about Romani as other languages. Thanks to it being a mostly unwritten language spoken by a minority that is traditionally closed off to non-Roma, there aren't many historical documents we can use. And not to mention that the Roma were and are wildly discriminated against in and out of Europe, resulting in there not being much interest in the language by scholars or funding by government officials.
Moira orfei ,grand mother of ElvisPresley also.Dyango Rainhard ,100 % sinto.The diferency between Roma and Sinti other people ,will never understand..Sinti Language can t find nowhere .no books ,nothing.Don t get me wrong ,roma are special unique people ,bu i no ,we no the diferency between us.
ATTN TO. ALL. MAY SUM GOMA FOV DUMA ROMANICE. This is why they are forced to speak in Czech language are there language that they are from but we here in the United States we speak both languages fluently our young children don't know how to speak English until they turn 4 years old I speak the Roma language fluently and as well in English but this is when you live in third world countries that they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground why other people are forced to do what they tell him to do that's because they have no rights and these third world countries no humanitarian rights of any type this is what you get in return what I say screw'em the people that Force on me how to change my language in don't know my language how to speak it I would tell them take a long freaking walk on a short pier
Todo esto que hablan es rumano ,esto no es romano, ni kalo ni por asomo ESTOY CON UN RUMANO DE TRANSILVANIA amigo mio e trabajado con 40 rumanos a mi cargo durante 6 años todas las noches en una rotativa ..... escuchandolo me dice que es un rumano mas comun y de barrio me explica que es como jerja callejera .
San tu Rom? Pačava kaj nane phari i Řomani čhib.Alje, našti sikljarel amare čhib po jekh lil. Andre sako dialekta, isi vi but cikne lekte pal-o than, pal-i familija thaj kola. Maj but Řoma kaj bistjarde dopaš i čhib, aj na savoře o vipal o kotor...
ja mo pral isi saj dzi ke 2 ili 3 romane chiba eee agja si me but nerverima keda bistren pi puv dzanav akate an mo foro si roma avena katar slovakia ne vacaren romane a roma sii em kola roma katar kosova kaj bistren sa pi chib taj vacaren koja chib naj laces agja rom san kur ma bistar ie chib romani
Me sem rrom andaj România, thaj mangav te phenav-tumenge qe ame ë rrom athar ni bistärdăm amari ćhib, den duma tumari ćhib i rromani kä sili jekh ćhib kaj ni mula thaj ni merel so trajsa ame. Ame träbul te precujs amari ćhib i rromani. 3ănav kä ni akhăren să so phenav kä si-man dialekto rumunikano anda-i România. Anda-i konstanca (constanța) . Te aven bahtale rromale te del-tumen o DEL sastimos thaj fericirea.
@@albertvsibrahim Maternnji jezik se nemoze nikada zaboraviti ! ima razlike u rjecima netko se raxumje netko ne alindosta rjeci su iste pa se da razumjet ovisi u kojem podneblju romi zive .Proputovao sam cjeli svijet i proucavao.Rome i nihov mentalitet .Engleski romi pricaju romski na svoj nacin ali ima dosta slicnosti imaju svoje nazive !
This old man is one of the most wise man i even met in youtube. Its true...dont be something that you are not. Not be ashamed of what you are. Gyspies are extremly unique!!!
Elvis Presley was a Roma(gypsy).Ricardo quaresma soccer player from portugal is Roma.Django Reinhardt musician was Roma.So be proud to be a Roma.
Presley was of mexican descent
Elvis presley and django reinhardt was sinti and no roma!!...
@@ninodangelo3516 what is different between Sinti And Roma?
@@alenavekon1726 sinti Roma khale are independent groups they are all part of the so called gypsy families coming from old india .. we are one of the oldest Indian tribes living in India in the 5th century we were captured and taken to Persia than in Persia Iran one half were taken to Egypt other half to moors living there from the 5th century as servants musicians metal workers they helped the army with making swords from metal and than in the weekends they had to play music while they were partying kings soldiers ruled over us we were cheap labour plus entertainers .. now back in the day the Roma coming from the dom doma domari tribes of north india .. the sinti is coming from the sidh tribe today it would be called Pakistan where they lived in india .. the khale kale were living in India but I don’t know the location.. while each gypsy tribe were taken to Arabic countries and living there since 5th century they mixed with the locals there were also Arabic tribes who were slaves with us and also Jewish tribes .. so the gypsies mixed with local countries they lived in by the time we were taken to Europe by the Turks as slaves once again we were mixed each tribes mixed with different Arabic tribes .. so we are an mixed race living across the world 🌎 .. so there are little bit differences who we mixed that’s why we have many types of gypsy cultures etc .. but al of us basically Indian tribes who mixed with others sometimes forcefully sometimes not ..basically we are coming from the same country and back in the day are blood lines were one .. but today very mixed with many race ..
It's about Roma language but they speak Slovenian language
I grew up on the song
Respect to my people the gypsies
From the U.S
+dylan goon Bahtale Roma!
From Massachusetts
Hi I'm a Romany gypsy in England I'm trying to learn the old language. But what a song do know who sang that and what's the name of the song please
That was really interesting! Thanks for posting and translating this into English. For a moment I thought it was in Romani, but I quickly recognized it was something Slavic and lolled when I understand a word or two there (I can speak some Russian).
It is Slovenian
I shot this video and I can tell you that this is in Slovenian language.
they were speaking slovene that i could understand them.
Half the words in Romani are understood by Rajasthani Indians. Bersh, diwas, manush salo sali .ek, do trin char . chora, chori, cuiri for knife tati for hot kaki for uncle are used by us even today.
No doubt in my mind they left India about 1000 years ago at the time of great King Prithviraj Chauhan .Roma were mostly his soldiers.
Roma use hiv for ice. its him in Sanskrit. gao is village. khelavan is game. sov is sleep. so on. Our lost brothers .
I have list of 1000 words which are common.
Can you take them back?
yeah that's very true, but this man is speaking some pure slavic language which is no romani
Yeah well we came from India so it makes sense .. but not all of us come from one region we come from south India north India and including Pakistan .. our langue is the oldest Sanskrit language at least the majority of our basic words comes from the oldest Sanskrit language now the Iranians specially the Kurds also understands many words from our language .. that’s why they call our Romanes language an Indo-Aryan family language ..
Excellent Kako Shree ! Now you can teach Romani in the University of Hyderabad ( India).
Calé here. Opré Roma!
those little girls dancing in the beginning are so beautiful
Gelem, gelem, lungone dromensa
Maladilem bakhtale Romensa
A Romale katar tumen aven,
E tsarensa bahktale dromensa?
A Romale, A Chavale
Vi man sas ek bari familiya,
Murdadas la e kali legiya
Aven mansa sa lumniake Roma,
Kai putaile e romane droma
Ake vriama, usti Rom akana,
Men khutasa misto kai kerasa
A Romale, A Chavale
Puter Dewla le parne wudara
Te sai dikhaw kai si me manusha
Pale ka gav lungone dromencar
Ta ka phirav bachtale Romensa
A Rromalen, A chavalen
Opre Rroma isi vaxt akana
Ajde mançar sa lumáqe Rroma
O kalo muj ta e kale jakha
Kamàva len sar e kale drakha
A Rromalen, A chavalen.
+chris sterio How do you say " You know what to do." in Roma?
@@maryamshiva3457 Modern roma: Dzaneja so te kere
The proper roma: Tu dzanes so te keres
I do not know if the proper way is correct, because as they say, the proper one fades away sadly
hello sir shree prakash loya i am learning afalar our ancient language, what better way to learn?
Unfortunately there are a lot of species-variety -Roma and misunderstanding among the Muju room.
As the story.
i was prepared to not be suprised that roma language sounds very similiar and i thought so watching the first two men speak....then it turns out they were speaking slovenian, lol
i am domari from iran and it´s strange that see white romani people
They are in Europe most likely since 14 century,here they are pretty much the same skin tone as these people(sometimes darker,but still are capable of having blue eyes) for the exception for the blond girl,who is actually white. But she could be just a friend,who is learning to dance... I don't know most of older romani's are finished like only two-three years in school. They can't read,they can't write, because of that language can change a lot by mixing with whatever countries they visited and languages they also learned. Most of them there I live have Russian surnames,sometimes polish names... And I don't live neither in russia,neither in poland. Also this is completely copied from wikipedia; "Domari was once thought to be the "sister language" of Romani, the two languages having split after the departure from the Indian subcontinent, but more recent research suggests that the differences between them are significant enough to treat them as two separate languages within the Central zone (Hindustani) group of languages. The Dom and the Rom are therefore likely to be descendants of two different migration waves out of India, separated by several centuries.There are nevertheless remarkable similarities between the two beyond their shared Central zone Indic origin, indicating a period of shared history as itinerant populations in the Middle East. These include shared archaisms that have been lost in the Central Indo-Aryan languages over the millennium since Dom/Rom emigration, a series of innovations connecting them with the Northwestern zone group, indicating their route of migration out of India, and finally a number of radical syntactical changes due to superstrate influence of Middle Eastern languages, including Persian, Arabic and Byzantine Greek." In conclusion there are many para-romani languages, witch can different alot. Maybe the same words,but the pronunciation is unrecognizable,some words can be different,maybe the structure of sentences. They also have different religions.
Also I believe in the longer run they will just disappear. A thousand years,and they will assimilate more and more with the nations they are currently living with,becoming more and more a like... At the point they will completely lose the remaining roots of India. Whiter and whiter or darker. Accordingly to the weather and brightness of the sun of the area. Language will also probably assimilate. Evolution much,trying to survive.
i am rom FROM Romania . We are dark skin with indian features . My romanian friends have white skin and mostly blond hair .
@@claudiuhebkalo6903 Da dar bănuiesc că știi că în România sunt și "țigani albi" ( gabori cu pălărie ) care trăiesc prin Ardeal.. unii dintre ei au chiar parul blond și ochii albaștri
Hussein Domari domari end romani brother
svaka čast fantje to kar si v srcu nosi nepusti da ti nekdo rece da si drugacen od belih ljudi vsi smo krvavi pod kozo lp sanel pašić
@viskarenvisla I wonder if that's true, that the You-Tube you saw was not Romani. It seems to be a broad category of dialects...
Did you watch the whole movie?? They are speaking in Romani.
They are speaking in slovene
many Rrom that do not live in kumpanya we lost our romani language. that is my situation and even I can recognized that is not romani
What language are they speaking?
Who is singing this please anyone
erm... romani can be learned, there are books, you just need to look for them
They came originally from india
So sad history :( The language disappears.
ah devla..:´)
where do you live,Mr. Prudencio? Are you a Roma?
Pl see Romani Language 1, 2, and 3 on you tube from Adrian, Italian Roma gentleman from whom I learned many Romani words are ours too. Your names too loke Panna and Bihari are from Rajasthan, india.
If u wish to know about your ancestors, pl find out about "Prithviraj Chauhan" and "Rajputs", your real tribe.
They should not present the girls as little lolitas
As I understand there are many jypsi dialects in different parts of the world. Can someone confirm it ?
+Tom Miller of course
+Chamelion Miller it doesn't matter how you spell it gypsie or jypsi it's still a slur. Stop.
+♡ Winterbird ♡ Yes, but in the US gadje don't know any better and there is no slight intended.
+♡ Winterbird ♡ No it is not. When we call it in Englisb language is Gypsy. That is what we are to you, as long as it isnt said in Slur, it doesn't matter.
Yes, there are quite a few Romani dialects, and that's not even counting mixed languages where Romani and a second language were blended together (an example of this is Anglo-Romani, spoken by the Romanichal in the UK). This is due to the Roma being traditionally nomadic (they're spread out and that meant they'd each develop their own distinct dialect as time went by) and also because Romani was, historically, exclusively an unwritten language. It's only been recently that there have been efforts to make one unified alphabet for Romani (in the past, native speakers have just been borrowing the writing system of the most common non-Romani language in the area, ex: Russian, Hungarian, Romanian, English).
Sadly, we do not know as much about Romani as other languages. Thanks to it being a mostly unwritten language spoken by a minority that is traditionally closed off to non-Roma, there aren't many historical documents we can use. And not to mention that the Roma were and are wildly discriminated against in and out of Europe, resulting in there not being much interest in the language by scholars or funding by government officials.
Moira orfei ,grand mother of ElvisPresley also.Dyango Rainhard ,100 % sinto.The diferency between Roma and Sinti other people ,will never understand..Sinti Language can t find nowhere .no books ,nothing.Don t get me wrong ,roma are special unique people ,bu i no ,we no the diferency between us.
This isn't polsi romanë . I'm Romani polsih and this is not. It
This is no way Romani.
What romani language do you speak
This is in slovene
Isralites gods people
ATTN TO. ALL. MAY SUM GOMA FOV DUMA ROMANICE. This is why they are forced to speak in Czech language are there language that they are from but we here in the United States we speak both languages fluently our young children don't know how to speak English until they turn 4 years old I speak the Roma language fluently and as well in English but this is when you live in third world countries that they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground why other people are forced to do what they tell him to do that's because they have no rights and these third world countries no humanitarian rights of any type this is what you get in return what I say screw'em the people that Force on me how to change my language in don't know my language how to speak it I would tell them take a long freaking walk on a short pier
Todo esto que hablan es rumano ,esto no es romano, ni kalo ni por asomo ESTOY CON UN RUMANO DE TRANSILVANIA amigo mio e trabajado con 40 rumanos a mi cargo durante 6 años todas las noches en una rotativa ..... escuchandolo me dice que es un rumano mas comun y de barrio me explica que es como jerja callejera .
NI UNA SOLA PALABRA NO ES RUMANO!
Es esloveno
romani Language??? never
Yeah im sure learning is Hard for you
San tu Rom? Pačava kaj nane phari i Řomani čhib.Alje, našti sikljarel amare čhib po jekh lil. Andre sako dialekta, isi vi but cikne lekte pal-o than, pal-i familija thaj kola. Maj but Řoma kaj bistjarde dopaš i čhib, aj na savoře o vipal o kotor...
ja mo pral isi saj dzi ke 2 ili 3 romane chiba eee agja si me but nerverima keda bistren pi puv dzanav akate an mo foro si roma avena katar slovakia ne vacaren romane a roma sii em kola roma katar kosova kaj bistren sa pi chib taj vacaren koja chib naj laces agja rom san kur ma bistar ie chib romani
sarsan
oroma zabysteren amari čip nadanen romanes te vakeren zabysteren amari duma
Me sem rrom andaj România, thaj mangav te phenav-tumenge qe ame ë rrom athar ni bistärdăm amari ćhib, den duma tumari ćhib i rromani kä sili jekh ćhib kaj ni mula thaj ni merel so trajsa ame. Ame träbul te precujs amari ćhib i rromani. 3ănav kä ni akhăren să so phenav kä si-man dialekto rumunikano anda-i România. Anda-i konstanca (constanța) . Te aven bahtale rromale te del-tumen o DEL sastimos thaj fericirea.
@@albertvsibrahim Maternnji jezik se nemoze nikada zaboraviti ! ima razlike u rjecima netko se raxumje netko ne alindosta rjeci su iste pa se da razumjet ovisi u kojem podneblju romi zive .Proputovao sam cjeli svijet i proucavao.Rome i nihov mentalitet .Engleski romi pricaju romski na svoj nacin ali ima dosta slicnosti imaju svoje nazive !
Errr.... singing, rather. lol
ovo nije romski ovo je gurbetski ili cergarski jezik..
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