Atlanta Falcons Turn Down 4th Round Puck From Chicago Bears GM Ryan Poles
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- In today’s video I give you guys my thoughts and perspectives on Chicago Bears GM Ryan Poles offering the Atlanta Falcons a future 4th round pick for our first round 8th pick in order to land Rome Odunza.
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The Bears were picking 9th. The only reason Poles wanted to trade up is odunze. We were not the 13th pick. Your gm is dumb for turning down a free pick
First of all thank you for watching and definitely commenting. But we were freaking out about Penix just as Ryan Poles was freaking out about Odunza. Remember there were countless reports that had us picking Odunza. So maybe Terry Fontenot didn’t want to take that chance….no chance….any chance.
Bear fan here too. Thank you for making good content. We scratched our heads as Bear fans but what we were told was that other teams were trying to move up to get a QB with ATL and getting an extra 4th but possibly having the Bears trade that to someone else was too risky. Even if the Bears had tunnel vision on drafting Rome. And with the potential punishment coming the Falcons knew their team is built for now and got extra QB insurance. Hard to find many holes on that team so it makes sense they are all in.
I gave a couple of scenarios as to why the Bears would offer up such a generous offer, it was just puzzling to say the least. I’m just glad our GM stood on business and not get distracted. I think I understand what he’s doing and I hope it works as planned. I’ve been a fan since ‘78 so I’ve been wanting for a long time.
I gave a couple of scenarios as to why the Bears would offer up such a generous offer, it was just puzzling to say the least. I’m just glad our GM stood on business and not get distracted. I think I understand what he’s doing and I hope it works as planned. I’ve been a fan since ‘78 so I’ve been wanting for a long time.
@@ATLANTAFALCONSFANDEMIC-or3xbnah, it was just stupid. Fontanot is not quick on his feet. The Falcons should be built into a playoff contender they've been bad for years.
The Bears simply wanted to assure they got Odunze, I don't think anybody except the GM knew they were picking Penix. Hell, Arthur Blank was as shocked as anyone and had to be walked off the ledge.
You’re right. It’s just suspect to me that they wanted to move just one spot up knowing we had no interest in Odunze despite what some reports were suggesting.
It’s the same thing Philly did last year with us, they traded up 1 spot and gave us a future 4th…
@@ATLANTAFALCONSFANDEMIC-or3xb Fair point!
@@ATLANTAFALCONSFANDEMIC-or3xb Did Falcons fans hear of rumblings that they were doing to take Penix? I'm pretty certain it was a shock to everyone else after trading for Cousins.
With all due respect. Why would the Falcons take a qb with their first pick, considering they sign cousins to a 4 yr deal worth $180,000,000? How does that make sense?
First of all thanks for viewing and commenting.💯👊🏿To me it made all the sense in the world considering and let’s be real although we signed Cousins he is 36 years old with an Achilles injury so at the most he’ll be able for one to two more years. Grabbing Penix gives us a great pick who can sit and learn during that time and be ready. We definitely don’t want to rush Penix in and not be ready. We actually got Cousins cheap considering what other teams are paying their starters.
@@ATLANTAFALCONSFANDEMIC-or3xbthey overpaid cousins
NO. Poles had wanted Odunze BAD. There was a video during the Draft combine where Poles was saying I REALLY like this guy. And Eberflus said we should take him. And Poles said if he possibly fell to us.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I suggested the Bears wanted to trade to gain more draft capital from the Raiders not to grab a QB. Everybody knew Atlanta was either going QB or edge rusher. We had long dispelled that WR rumor.
Raiders were looking to move up but couldn't find a suitor
That’s why I perceived that the Bears wanted our spot. They knew if they could grab that 8th pick the Raiders who was interested inPenix would trade an arm and a leg for it.
First of all, only 3 people knew they were going to take a QB, No one had a clue, including your $250 million dollar QB and his agent. The Bears wanted Odunze period, even if the falcons had traded down to 9 and received a future 4th and the Bears flipped the 8th to The raiders. how did they figure a team would be dumb enough to Pick a QB with their first pick after signing a major FA QB? this is a horrible take my man. Your GM is no Ryan Poles sir.
Everybody knew we were either going QB or Edge rusher, we long since dispelled the WR rumor. When it got round the draft the Raiders was very interested in Penix and the reports came out to back them up Atlanta knew we had to go ahead and grab him. Just like Ryan Poles knew he had to grab Odunze at first chance. However if they could have swindled that 8th pick from us there’s no telling what the Raiders would have given the Bears for that pick. Meaning the Bears would get Penix ATL would have to opt for an edge rusher and the Bearsa would still get Penix.
Wow! Talk about creating thing’s in your head!
Stay tuned in…it’s an overwhelming amount of people that wondered what the Bears was up to.
Appreciate your content but your suggested theory on the reason why the Bears wanted to trade up just isn't adding up. If the Bears traded up for the 8th pick, why in the world would they take a chance on missing out on Odunze by trading down for the 13th pick from the Raiders along with getting back a 2025 pick that they already had before they traded up for the 8th pick. Make it make sense. IMO your GM was over thinking.
First, thank you for watching and commenting my content., it’s much appreciated for sure.
It was just my perception that they would be able to acquire more from the Raiders by acquiring that spot. The Bears probably…just by watching the reaction in the boardroom thought we were interested in Odunze as well but if they acquire more capital than they were losing it’s a Bears win. That’s why I’m thinking Ryan Poles turned to the owner and asked him was he good with the selecting Odunze after we chose Penix.
I can literally see this guys brain glitching trying to rationalize this
At the 6:40 mark this guy literally caches brain fart and doesn't know what the hell he is even talking about now. Rome Odunze was never lasting untill pick #13 because the jets really wanted Odunze they tried to trade up a couple of times for Rome Odunze.
The falcons pick was goofy no matter how you justify. You can make anything sound logical but it’s how far you reaching for that logic
What’s so goofy about standing on who you want and sticking to your plan no matter what.
What’s good with you Emmanuel and I think the Bears was trying to be slick and offer just a future 4th round pick in 2025 to move up one spot when teams give up at least 2 draft picks to move up in the top 10 and the Bears was picking at #9 and nobody knew that we was going to draft a QB but if they would have offered more draft picks they might would have considered moving back one spot but I’m glad that they didn’t take the offer and drafted the player they wanted with our 8th pick and it’s not going to hurt us for not taking that 4th round pick for 2025 and they was just trying to pull one over on Terry for offering a future draft pick.
Hey Brother Wallace, thanks for commenting. I do believe they were trying to pull a slick one too. Had they succeeded I seriously think we would not have Michael Penix Jr. I think the Bears would have offered that pick up for more draft capital and they still wou;d have gotten their pick. So glad Terry Fontenot saw straight through that and stood on business.
@@ATLANTAFALCONSFANDEMIC-or3xb yeah that could have been a possibility but I never seen a team make a trade to move up and make another trade with another team to try and get more draft capital bc those trades usually come down to the last minute and they have to draft a player before the time runs out or lose their draft pick.
Ya'll are just goofy trying to justify this. So many words to make yourself feel better. ..It was always Odunze. Not a trade out😅😅
Just to clarify. It would have been Bears 9th overall and future 4th pick, for the 8th pick of Atlanta. It was essentially a free pick, crazy your GM didn't take it knowing Bears weren't gonna go QB again. Bears were always gonna draft Odunze (look at the after draft video from the draft room). They weren't gonna trade that pick to anyone if they moved up.
They were freaking out about Odunze.
The third reason is that the Bears were afraid someone else would trade up for the pick.
Hey thanks for viewing my video and commenting. I was just guessing and wondering did he offer the same deal to other teams before us?
@@ATLANTAFALCONSFANDEMIC-or3xbNo the didn't brother they were tracking Rome the whole time as the draft was going on and that's not the owner in the room with Ryan it was the assistant GM and Ryan was being sarcastic the top 2 players on the Bears gm draft board was always Caleb & Rome once Rome fell past the Giants because the Giants took Nabers that was when the Bears started to see that the possibility of Rome falling to them was very strong, they pretty much had a good feeling that the Titans were going to take a tackle @#7, so now the only obstacle from them drafting Rome was with Atlanta @# 8 the offer was made to secure the chance of them drafting Rome and honestly Atlanta turned down the offer because they didn't want to take any chances, but to me it just wasn't a calculated move because the Bears wasn't going to offer to move up 1 pick then again to trade down there just isn't any logic in that. At the end of the day both teams got the player that they covet. They have behind the scenes of the Bears entire plan on their local team Channel as well as the NFL Network. Caleb & Rome were working out together before they were even drafted. With Chicago having both the first overall and the 9th pick in the 2024 draft this was always a possibility that the Bears hoped for and were willing to move assets for to get just so happened that the draft board felled just as they had hope it would
We got the best punter in football with that 4th pick 😂 thanks
Terry Fontenot was just standing on business to make sure we got our QB.
I think the Falcons were watching the movie Draft Day. They thought Penix was the next Bo Callahan!
Sounds about right🤣🤣🤣
As a Bears fan I definitely believe the Bears were willing to give up picks to select a blue chip WR in Odunze
They now have Pro Bowlers DJ Moore (2) Seasons on contract (Keenan Allen (1) and Rome a Blue Chip WR (5) years ohh 😮 and Caleb Williams QB who would of went 1st pick last season or this season!! Go Bears 🐻
Thanks Atlanta…. DAAA BEARS 🐻
Yes, you’re welcome🤣🤣🤣
was a bonehead move to not make trade ... Falcon's still set to lose.
Turning down a free pick is crazy work !!
Poles wanted to trade up to ensure another team doesnt trade up or Falcons take Odunze. Falcons didnt turn it down because they thought the Bears might take their guy. They likely turned it down to eliminate the possibility of Bears immediatly trading the pick to a QB needy team to take Falcons guy. When you have a conviction that a QB prospect is in your lap it not worth gambling it, let alone for a 4th. You take the guy.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Everyone has their own reason as to why we didn’t take the offer. I’m just glad Terry Fontenot stayed the course, stood on business and not get distracted from the task at hand. And that’s let nothing interfere with the process of drafting the guy we wanted…not even a tempting offer like what was offered. We wanted Penix as bad as Poles wanted Odunze. Mr Fontenot left nothing to chance.
I'm glad they turned it down they knew we weren't going to draft a QB should of took the trade thank you Ryan pace terrible evaluater of talent
The thing is everybody knows the draft is a cut throat process…with an offer like that at that moment everybody knows Ryan wasn’t after the QB it was the draft spot. There was a chance and presumption that Ryan would have taken that 8th spot traded to the Raiders for more draft capital and still be able to draft Odunza since picks 9 - 12 wasn’t interested in Odunza.
Bears arent rebuilding the bears own the falcons. Bears beat y'all with Nick Foles and spanked y'all last sesson with fields. Keenan Allen , DJ Moore , Cole Kmet , DeAndre Swift , Rome Odunze , Caleb Williams , etc.. Bears are so good right now they aren't rebuilding thats the falcons
Thanks for viewing my video, however this has nothing to do with outdoing the Bears but solidifying our pick just in case the Bears HAD other intentions
@@ATLANTAFALCONSFANDEMIC-or3xb why tf would bears trade up just to trade back down?! Make it make sense. Falcons reached for a QB then lost picks for tampering. I'm so glad Ryan Pace is apart of the falcons front office today 🤣
Thank you for not taking the 4th rd pick that we now used for the strong leg punter we drafted.
The 4th rd. pick was for the 2025 draft, not the 2024 draft. Basically the same compensation Philly gave us to go up one spot in 2023 so they could take Jalen Carter from UGA…
@@genohall2235 no ur wrong it was 2024
It already did come and bite the falcons falcons got exposed for tampering and could've had a 4th rd pick after losing day three pick for tampering 😅
It definitely would have solved that problem but it just remain suspicious to me they wanted to move up just one spot to our #8 knowing we were going with Penix or edge rusher
@@ATLANTAFALCONSFANDEMIC-or3xb NOBODY knew falcons were going with QB at #8 after landing Kirk Cousins. Falcons defense has holes on D.Line , Da bears just wanted to make sure they landed Rome Odunze instead of having another team jump them for him. Y'all could've did trade and still landed Penix at 9. I'm glad Bears got Odunze at #9 for free tho shout out to them falcons 😭
If this is true and they turned down the trade to bears i would say why?
I’m sure it’ll come out at some point
Nobody thought Atlanta was Takin a QB #8! NOBODY! And The Bears picked #9th!! The Bears & Eagles did the same things last year for a 4th rd pick
The problem is the Raiders wanted Penix as well. I could be wrong but I’m thinking Terry thought there was a chance the Bears wanted our spot to in turn trade to the Raiders for more draft capital and still be able to go and get Odunze….a chance. My thought.
Ryan Poles just really wanted Rome Odunze simple as that. He didnt care about turning 4th rd pick into more picks he simply just wanted his guy. He got his guy for FREE now thanks to the falcons who reached for a QB 🤣
It wasn’t a reach at all, our GM just stood on business just like Ryan did. Look into the future just a little bit and see what other QB we could have placed our future in draft or otherwise. Terry Fontenot like everyone else was just solidifying our pick.
@@ATLANTAFALCONSFANDEMIC-or3xb it definitely was after signing Kirk the contract he was given. When Ryan Pace is apart of your front office things like what happened for falcons in draft happens.
@@ATLANTAFALCONSFANDEMIC-or3xb Y'all reached for Penix that was the biggest surprise of that draft. Y'all could've landed him at #9 or #10 frfr. I'm glad falcons did that tho now bears got Odunze for free. Caleb at #1 was a no brainier btw.
Pretty sure NFL teams all deal with each other honestly just because if anybody started not doing that, then no one would deal with them and there are only 32 trade partners to start with. This sorta thinking woulda made more sense in like the 60s when things were a lot less professional.
The draft is a or was an honorable dealing. It has proven today times are different no one shares one’s thoughts anymore especially when it comes down to who’s drafting who. If that was the case teams wouldn’t be trying to move up to solidify a pick.
@@ATLANTAFALCONSFANDEMIC-or3xb Nah, if they didn't have open and honest communication--weird stuff would happen. And at least sometimes we'd find out about it. I'm sure they ask "Who you taking?" and I'm sure they say stuff like "WEll, I'll make that deal if you're not taking so and so". Maybe sometimes they refuse to say, but I don't think they'd ever mislead. Millions of dollars are on the line; they gonna wanna know, and nobodies gonna deal with people after word gets out they lied over players worth millions. It just doesn't make any sense at these $ levels.
@@thatinternetdude1392 there’s always speculations as to whose taking who otherwise there would t have been overwhelming reports that we were taking Dallas Turner at 8. If you noticed in that Bears video even Ryan Poles was surprised Odunze landed in their lap. It’s a cut throat business so what’s left….secrecy and speculation
@@ATLANTAFALCONSFANDEMIC-or3xb Nah, these people talk to each other. We don't know. Media don't know till they know. But the people making these choices; they have open honest communication when it comes to doing business. If not, nothing would ever happen. They wouldn't trust each other. Nobody is making million dollar deals with folks they don't trust.
Time will tell, but right now your GM looks like a dope.
So far Terry Fontenot has. Proved to be a genius so I’m riding with every decision he has made and will make in the future.
Our CFL is superior bishes yeah! 🇨🇦
I am a bears fan and I think you may be on to something. I know the bears wanted Odunze but I could see the raiders making an offer they couldn't refuse to get the guy you all got. At the same token the idea of you getting a WR for your newly acquired QB makes more sense. I hope the Penix pick is justified for you all, but at the moment it doesn't seem like a strong pick.
Poles is crafty and I think the raiders could have probably offered him something to get him off Odunze.
First of all thanks for viewing and commenting. Our GM’s mission is to build a team to win now as well as a team to play with Penix. So far he has done a phenomenal job at doing both. I’m so glad he stood on business and stuck to his plan.
As a bears fan this was a free pick that Poles was gonna give out like before the draft it was well know that they really liked odunze there was even that clip during the draft that even predicted that we wanted odunze
Plus I don't think they would've traded down to 13
First of all thanks for viewing and commenting. I was suggesting that the Bears wanted our pick not for Penix or a QB but the Bears knew the Raiders wanted to move up and would give anything to get Penix who they were eyeing for a while. The bears could have got that 8th pick traded it to the Raiders and still got Odunze because no one else was interested in Odunze.
Look, the Bears definitely wanted Odunze and had concerns about Atlanta trading their pick #8, to a wide receiver hungry team who could then snatch Odunze right from under their noses. That would definitely be worth the draft capital expenditure.
While that was a good idea, I for one prefer how Atlanta handled it. That way the Bears got Odunze and kept their draft capital. Sounds to me like everyone concerned got what they wanted.
A nothing burger here
Poverty mindset.