You can not descend on the "top" half of the holding circle, sou you need to maintain level turn at Angels 2 until the 9 o'clock position in the holding (or Point 3 in your image earlier on), then start desencing to 800 feet and turn back to arrive straight and level to the initial on BRC heading, at 3 NM back, not 2 NM, as at 10:44. Speed between 350 and 400 kts until the break. In the break, pull roughly 1% of speed for G, 3.5 G for 350 kts and so on, easing up pull gradually, as the speed is going down. Left DDI is usually set to HUD repeater, and if you put up HSI in the RIGHT DDI (to get rid of the "Advisory line" on the left DDI always blanked and masking), you can check visually when to level on reciprocal BRC, and throughout the break turn, you can already adjust your downwind distance based on lateral distance from CRS in NM, shown above the CRS degree in the right bottom corner, to arrive to the Abeam at proper distance, and trimmed to on speed AoA (middle of the E bracket leveling the Velocity Vector). This was on rather the top edge of the E bracket. After that, no trimm and no stick movement for altitude change EVER. Strictly ONLY throttle for climb or descent, and stick movement only sideways, for bank. Bank should be rather 30° than 15°, the shallow / slow turn is why you ended up way more back than necessary. No nitpicking meant, just for those who wanna learn it from this video.
Note the SPEEDS and Distance abeam the carrier for the downwind and the groove are aircraft type dependent, these are for an FA18C. A Superhornet, or a Tomcat or any other plane type would be different. The Diameter of the holding stack is common for all aircraft types. Also you cannot extend the downwind to have a longer 'groove' since that would spoil the timing for other planes in the pattern. You'd be waved off with a LONG IN GROOVE reason. Its all about the TIMING to ensure efficient and safe recovery of many aircraft in the shortest possible time .
Wasn't sure if I was going to pick up any modules during the sale and try to get into DCS again, but all of the Supercarrier preview footage sold me on some new planes and scenery. Solid tutorial, makes sense...now I just need to go watch the other tutorials for a plane I can land on the deck without cheesing it.
At the Navy Recruiter's Office. *Me: "I want to fly fighter jets, I already know how to land on Aircraft Carriers." *Navy Recruiter: "What training and experience do you have?" *Me: Gives the recruiter the link to this video. *Navy Recruiter: Takes a shot of whisky in his game of "Every-time someone comes in and thinks DCS is Military Training."
Ooh crumbs, I'm not sure that I have the patient's to run through a real and complex landing procedure, like this. ..However, I do go around the carrier the same number of times, before successfully landing...but mines usually due to a number of bolters!!! :p
but in real life it seems that they push and pull the stick (a lot besides) : th-cam.com/video/1kqWnxFR6_w/w-d-xo.html He doesn't even touch the trim :/
@@fdsfsfeezraerttymichaelaie205 IRL the aircraft is shacked around a lot in such weather like on your video, requiring non stop little stick correction to restabilize the birdy, this is why. You can clearly see that AOA still is set by trim at 2:00 and reajusted at 2:10. TeesHQ is right, this tutorial is the perfect exemple of WHAT NOT TO DO. Shouldn't be a tutorial at all, but not surprised, again a classic from Reapers ...
Radar Altitude is unreliable over the water. It's why you ended up in the groove at over "400 feet" but were Low on the glideslope. The Radar altimeter is "seeing" the "sea floor" which in DCS is what 2-300 feet under the surface?
He actually got low on the glideslope at 400 feet because he started the approach turn to the groove at least 10 seconds after he was supposed to do, and therefore was wayyy behind the carrier to get a good glideslope for his height...
Hmmm, do you use trim at all? Looks like you were never on speed (correct AOA). Also seeing one of your upper MFDs to HSI gives you better situational awareness. And it is useful to talk about angle of bank in the pattern. I always get way behind them carrier, like you did although I have seen people going in to the grocery as they roll out. Oh, and you didn't stop the plane for carrier landing, such as dispensers to safe, antiskid, etc
Any suggestions on how to interact with coms (not voice app) ? Haven't used this yet but in AAR, every time I have to go to an F key to communicate, I have to take my hands off the stick and get all buggered.....
Sorry for dumb question but looking to set TACAN in the CASE 1 mission, TCN is listed as 71x but I dont see what the x stands for ? I thought you entered TCN on the keypad which is numeric so I do not see an x ?
predattak nah don’t get the 16, almost all other planes are a better choice. F-14 and jf-17 are better choices. Or just get the viggen, you could never go wrong with her :)
I'm interested to see night ops lighting on the carrier. Some of the screenshots from ED looked incredible. Or is it forbidden to show yet in such an early access pre-pre-release?
Cap could you test how successfully you can land on a carrier with using trim and throttle controls only on final (no stick input) when turbulence is 39 or above at 0.1 feet. I sure can not.
Interesting tutorial Cap, thanks! I watch all your tutorial vids, despite the fact I don't have DCS or even a pc to run it on.😆 Love all your content and congrats on 100k subs👍❤️
4 wires on deck. Best wires to catch in order 3,4,2,1 NEVER GET A 1. Okay 3 wire is the best wire to catch. Grading goes for all wires Okay Fair, No grade
@@JulesD92 yeah, I thought the idea of a tutorial was to teach others the right way to do something. There was so much stick deflection in the groove, right through to the wires. They really need to teach trim and throttle control to maintain AoA as is done in the real aircraft.
Why does no one ever explain what controls do what in these videos. This is more like a look what i can do video rather than a tutorial video. Like how do u get to a speed of 135 with out dropping out of the sky? And what is that box on the lower left and how do you bring that up? What does it do? we cant see what buttons ur pressing and when.
Soo... when will the GR join the future and start using VR? 😋 Please skip to the one key question and tell us the about VR performance with the SC module! 😊
So cool. Random question Cap- as this seems so realistic, is it actually possible that other Navies like China or India could utilize DCS as a platform to learn American carrier technique?
As long as DCS recreates actual NATOPS procedures as close as they are. I think Chinese knew about these procedures long before ED announced SC in developement))
No. Those procedures are known because it is not classified. BFM SEAD and other actual military tactical stuff is only known to real pilots. They take great care not to share it on social media as that stuff is classified. It's just a game. A procedural sim at best of times. I look at it as airplane RPG.
@@mzaite Haven't seen issues myself, I have done well over 300 traps with the old Johnny Reb and never had a problem and currently at around 30 flights with the Teddy.
You can not descend on the "top" half of the holding circle, sou you need to maintain level turn at Angels 2 until the 9 o'clock position in the holding (or Point 3 in your image earlier on), then start desencing to 800 feet and turn back to arrive straight and level to the initial on BRC heading, at 3 NM back, not 2 NM, as at 10:44. Speed between 350 and 400 kts until the break.
In the break, pull roughly 1% of speed for G, 3.5 G for 350 kts and so on, easing up pull gradually, as the speed is going down. Left DDI is usually set to HUD repeater, and if you put up HSI in the RIGHT DDI (to get rid of the "Advisory line" on the left DDI always blanked and masking), you can check visually when to level on reciprocal BRC, and throughout the break turn, you can already adjust your downwind distance based on lateral distance from CRS in NM, shown above the CRS degree in the right bottom corner, to arrive to the Abeam at proper distance, and trimmed to on speed AoA (middle of the E bracket leveling the Velocity Vector). This was on rather the top edge of the E bracket. After that, no trimm and no stick movement for altitude change EVER. Strictly ONLY throttle for climb or descent, and stick movement only sideways, for bank. Bank should be rather 30° than 15°, the shallow / slow turn is why you ended up way more back than necessary. No nitpicking meant, just for those who wanna learn it from this video.
🙏🏻🙏🏻
Are you on discord
Also, he should have flown the holding pattern at 250kt which is the hornet’s max E.
Note the SPEEDS and Distance abeam the carrier for the downwind and the groove are aircraft type dependent, these are for an FA18C. A Superhornet, or a Tomcat or any other plane type would be different. The Diameter of the holding stack is common for all aircraft types. Also you cannot extend the downwind to have a longer 'groove' since that would spoil the timing for other planes in the pattern. You'd be waved off with a LONG IN GROOVE reason. Its all about the TIMING to ensure efficient and safe recovery of many aircraft in the shortest possible time .
Wasn't sure if I was going to pick up any modules during the sale and try to get into DCS again, but all of the Supercarrier preview footage sold me on some new planes and scenery. Solid tutorial, makes sense...now I just need to go watch the other tutorials for a plane I can land on the deck without cheesing it.
At the Navy Recruiter's Office.
*Me: "I want to fly fighter jets, I already know how to land on Aircraft Carriers."
*Navy Recruiter: "What training and experience do you have?"
*Me: Gives the recruiter the link to this video.
*Navy Recruiter: Takes a shot of whisky in his game of "Every-time someone comes in and thinks DCS is Military Training."
lols
Going to need that liquid courage if he's the LSO.
Ooh crumbs, I'm not sure that I have the patient's to run through a real and complex landing procedure, like this. ..However, I do go around the carrier the same number of times, before successfully landing...but mines usually due to a number of bolters!!! :p
As usual, amateurs practice until they get it right.
Professionals practice until they can't get it wrong.
This makes landing look even more intimidating.
It actually a lot easier on SC than normal carrier,
@@grimreapers Really? Because it's more realistic?
Naval aviator retired here. Glide slope is maintained by throttle control, not stick movement.
I guess I cant keep delaying learning that F-18 module, that supercarrier looks awesome
Learn the tomcat, it’s sick
Cant wait anymore. Waiting for so long for a stable update
I always appreciated your tutorials. Very useful, many thanks for you mate.
Worst case1 ever extra long groove time, pulling stick inr never ok grade
but in real life it seems that they push and pull the stick (a lot besides) : th-cam.com/video/1kqWnxFR6_w/w-d-xo.html He doesn't even touch the trim :/
@@fdsfsfeezraerttymichaelaie205 IRL the aircraft is shacked around a lot in such weather like on your video, requiring non stop little stick correction to restabilize the birdy, this is why. You can clearly see that AOA still is set by trim at 2:00 and reajusted at 2:10. TeesHQ is right, this tutorial is the perfect exemple of WHAT NOT TO DO. Shouldn't be a tutorial at all, but not surprised, again a classic from Reapers ...
Radar Altitude is unreliable over the water. It's why you ended up in the groove at over "400 feet" but were Low on the glideslope. The Radar altimeter is "seeing" the "sea floor" which in DCS is what 2-300 feet under the surface?
He actually got low on the glideslope at 400 feet because he started the approach turn to the groove at least 10 seconds after he was supposed to do, and therefore was wayyy behind the carrier to get a good glideslope for his height...
Thank you so much for all your videos, it's so helpful for a new dcs player like me !!!
Hmmm, do you use trim at all? Looks like you were never on speed (correct AOA). Also seeing one of your upper MFDs to HSI gives you better situational awareness.
And it is useful to talk about angle of bank in the pattern. I always get way behind them carrier, like you did although I have seen people going in to the grocery as they roll out.
Oh, and you didn't stop the plane for carrier landing, such as dispensers to safe, antiskid, etc
Any suggestions on how to interact with coms (not voice app) ? Haven't used this yet but in AAR, every time I have to go to an F key to communicate, I have to take my hands off the stick and get all buggered.....
Sorry for dumb question but looking to set TACAN in the CASE 1 mission, TCN is listed as 71x but I dont see what the x stands for ? I thought you entered TCN on the keypad which is numeric so I do not see an x ?
I have no idea which aircraft should I buy. I like BVR fight and SEAD missions. but you know we have not discount for F-14 and Jester
F-18 if you want to land on the carrier.
But if you don't care about the carrier ..F-16 all the way.
predattak nah don’t get the 16, almost all other planes are a better choice. F-14 and jf-17 are better choices. Or just get the viggen, you could never go wrong with her :)
F-16 might be a good choice one day. I love flying it but it's so unfinished and has many bugs. F/A 18 better at the moment. Way more capability
what is that marker on your HUD labeled "SS"
?
RWR
@@SteviePonder123 found out, those lines point to objects that are tracking you on radar.
@@ShannonNewbold as I said rwr
I'm interested to see night ops lighting on the carrier. Some of the screenshots from ED looked incredible. Or is it forbidden to show yet in such an early access pre-pre-release?
sure will vid that later today
How do you get the FLOLS to display like that?(keystrokes etc.) or is it part of Super Carrier?
comes with SC
@@grimreapers Thank you
Hey Cap, do you know if they will setup the grading system for the normal carriers eventually?
good question and don't know sorry.
So did it come out
Super, thanks
Cap could you test how successfully you can land on a carrier with using trim and throttle controls only on final (no stick input) when turbulence is 39 or above at 0.1 feet. I sure can not.
Good Lord. I'm prob the worst naval pilot in the World and you want me to do this?! eek
Comedy value is always in demand, or you could just call in Mr. Ironwolf?
Interesting tutorial Cap, thanks! I watch all your tutorial vids, despite the fact I don't have DCS or even a pc to run it on.😆 Love all your content and congrats on 100k subs👍❤️
11th
:( Thanks cap..Great info vid as usual..
I cannot land on SC, tried 40 attempts, I never catch the cable…i want to delete the crap I bought and never try again lol
Good... now show us the Case III :)
Catapult? Nah. CAPapult
Should u buy the carrier now or wait for the release
now while its on sale, probably not worth 50 bucks
@@adamwash917 Agreed 50 dollars is steep, when you could grab it now for half.
In-depth LSO Grading explanation please
4 wires on deck. Best wires to catch in order 3,4,2,1 NEVER GET A 1. Okay 3 wire is the best wire to catch. Grading goes for all wires Okay Fair, No grade
How come you landed without getting onspeed AoA in the groove? I'm a massive noob at this sim but don't pendulum like you did on carrier landings.
Tbh dont Take this approach as a Guideline,its horrible!
@@JulesD92 yeah, I thought the idea of a tutorial was to teach others the right way to do something. There was so much stick deflection in the groove, right through to the wires. They really need to teach trim and throttle control to maintain AoA as is done in the real aircraft.
Why does no one ever explain what controls do what in these videos. This is more like a look what i can do video rather than a tutorial video. Like how do u get to a speed of 135 with out dropping out of the sky? And what is that box on the lower left and how do you bring that up? What does it do? we cant see what buttons ur pressing and when.
Soo... when will the GR join the future and start using VR? 😋
Please skip to the one key question and tell us the about VR performance with the SC module! 😊
My PC not good enough to drive VR
When will this be released to public, if you already purchased it?
End of May, I have heard
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Good video... now just have to keep up the practice so it becomes 2nd nature :)
This isn’t a proper case 1
Guess i'll never know i'm not downloading the 5.5.6 bug fest
So cool. Random question Cap- as this seems so realistic, is it actually possible that other Navies like China or India could utilize DCS as a platform to learn American carrier technique?
As long as DCS recreates actual NATOPS procedures as close as they are.
I think Chinese knew about these procedures long before ED announced SC in developement))
No. Those procedures are known because it is not classified. BFM SEAD and other actual military tactical stuff is only known to real pilots. They take great care not to share it on social media as that stuff is classified.
It's just a game. A procedural sim at best of times. I look at it as airplane RPG.
@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 Why not? I'm pretty sure that's what Iran is doing with the Tomcat.:)
Wags one is better
Wags is God, I am a mere man...
True sir I saloot your work though, do you do all the editing?
Don't we all need more practice? ;)
You should actually use your Radar altimiter for this :)
Yeh will re-record this properly when I get more time.
@@grimreapers No worries. Actually it's better to try and break it the best you can, rather than follow procedures by the book.
At least in DCS Radar Alt is "funny" over the water.
@@mzaite Haven't seen issues myself, I have done well over 300 traps with the old Johnny Reb and never had a problem and currently at around 30 flights with the Teddy.
Love your vids, man- but your clickbaity thumbnails!!! Grrr!
Too long grove - waveoff !
First??