Jimmy's Take | Browns owners say stadium options are $1B renovation or new $2B dome outside city
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- Cleveland Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam say the team is down to two options when it comes to their future stadium site: a $1 billion dollar renovation to their existing stadium, or a domed stadium outside of the city at double the cost.
The Haslams addressed the stadium situation and other team matters Monday while in Orlando at the NFL Owners Meetings. They added that neither option is better than the other at this point.
One of the key points the duo confirmed is that they do have an option to purchase 176 acres of land in Brook Park not far from Cleveland Hopkins International Airport. That story was first reported by Ken Prendergast of NEOTrans blog in early February.
In response to the Brook Park speculation last month, the team confirmed on X (formerly Twitter) that they were looking at additional sites in Northeast Ohio to build a new stadium in addition to efforts to get a renovation deal done for Cleveland Browns Stadium.
Also last month, two Cleveland City Councilmembers told Signal Cleveland's Nick Castele that the Browns proposed a 50-50 split on a billion-dollar stadium renovation project, with state and local governments picking up upwards of $500 million, during a round of meetings last October.
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The stadium is only 25 years old. Cleveland should tell the owners to take a hike and let the Browns move again. NFL teams should build their own stadiums -- their profit margins are huge.
Oh No!!!!!! If you dare mention ANYTHING about the Browns moving you will be hunted down by Browns maniacs. That is Blastphamous!!!!
I’m going to hope you miss worded this or I’m going to go off on you
Football is meant to be played outdoors. Renovate the stadium and let go of the dome agenda that the league is promoting.
Shouldn't you have more than 3 winning seasons before asking for anything thing.
It’s sad that billionaires want one of the poorest cities in the country and/or their tax payers to build their stadium.
That's not accurate. I believe Haslam Sports Group will pay the bulk of the cost. How many billionaires are lining up behind the Haslams to invest in Cleveland?
@@OhioHoon "bulk of the cost". Taxpayers making below $75K shouldnt be forced to pay one red cent to the luxury/entertainment industry.
@@OhioHoon They're not going to pay more than half.
Ya don’t say.
@@smf15 @calvinhobbes6118
I understand - we don't know for sure, but I have a feeling they will pay for almost all of it. They have the money. To them it's an investment. If they can control the project and what is built-out on the site they acquire, they will get more continuous revenue from its operations. I believe that is the model for many of the recent new stadium projects. They wont get that kind of revenue if they share half the cost with taxpayers. The only help "we" will need to provide will be to make the road, rail network, utilities, etc around the site work correctly to support what is going on. I hope the site near the airport works out because I think it would be one of kind and would help the airport become more than what it is now. Lots of possibilities to grow our region in a positive way.
I never knew what happened to Jay Crawford after First Take. Thank you, TH-cam algorithm, for bringing this to a Broncos fan's feed.
Sad to say but the dome is the way, we could host big ten championship games, CFP games, the super bowl, concerts, soccer friendlies, and conventions.
Not to mention the Super Bowl. It seems like a no brainer from a business perspective. The city can redevelop the lake front where the old stadium is and include a small museum documenting all f the football history as that happened there. For better or worse, the days of ‘ice bowl’ games on rock hard frozen turf in howling arctic wind are ending, as much as I hate to admit it. There’s just way too much money in the NFL now for that.
@@paulmelde919 not to be a dick but I have no interest attending a Super Bowl in Cleveland. Nor would I want to go to Bufallo, Green Bay, Cinncinati. All cold weather cities with very few options when it comes to activities and hotel options. It is no wonder why these are football cities with a drinking problem.
Final four as well. Oh and Taylor Swift, lol. So annoying. Anyway, it would bring in everything you mentioned and more. Pumping a billion into the existing stadium would be beyond stupid.
@@mikef9126 Beyonce came to cleveland so why couldn't Taylor swift? Its about the market it has nothing to do with the venue 9/10. which is why cities with similar venue situations get events that we don't. Cleveland is way too underdeveloped at the moment to host something like a Super bowl. Downtown needs to be developed considering its the area people are going to visit most when they come here. So taking money away from a place where half the buildings are already empty anyways will only hurt that. no one is coming here and taking a stroll through brook park Ohio. Why would that be anywhere money should be going to. Tower City is a ghost town and cleveland as a whole is lacking in things to do. I fail to belive there's an attraction that could be put in the place of the browns stadium that would bring more people to the city of cleveland. It needs to stay where it is.
@@dmbfantonylol. You aren't a D, just honest. No one ever said , "hey, lets go no Cleveland!" For anything. The city sucks and the locals are too damn naive to realize that. The city cant even compete with Detroit or St.Louis, let alone NYC or Miami. They keep wasting money on useless stuff to bring people in while the people already there suffer.
It is amazing that we are revisiting this issue yet AGAIN. What's-his-name took the original Browns and left Cleveland because he wanted a better stadium WITH A ROOF. So, we built a new stadium and got the name (but not the team) back. Then the Indians wanted a stadium, so we built them a new stadium. BUT, we built TWO open air stadiums when we could have built one roofed facility to house both, plus any other events that would fit.
NFL and MLB teams don't want to share stadiums anymore.
@@adamori9736 That's their problem. Like it or not, there are other cities, some further north and some south that have roofed or retractable roofed facilities that serve both baseball and football. On the other hand, if the Browns want to build a new facility on their own dime, or with private investors, they can put it where ever they like.
@@BryanTorokI just don’t get the domed stadium agenda. Football is meant to be played outdoors. Besides there is no way the NFL would award Cleveland a Super Bowl, city isn’t big enough.
@@Mrcharles. You may prefer to watch outdoor football, but there are many folks who don't want to sit for 3 hours in freezing cold with water, frozen of not, falling on them. And, a roofed structure lends itself to being used for other things. That is the reason that most cities that have built stadiums in the last 25 years have movable roofs. You get the best of both worlds.
As a former season ticket holder in Municipal Stadium, I endured below zero temps many times. It's time for a domed stadium!
Feels so good seeing folks who actually suffered in cold games calling for the dome. I went to several cold weather games and man I love my browns but it’s not reason we should have to sit in that let alone expecting the best out of players.
@onlyonezay419 maybe a new state-of-the-art domed stadium will draw better players to the Browns. Not having to play in inclimate weather may be a good reason to play here.
@@jordanaire2004 agreed !
Pull your skirts down this is CLEVELAND. That’s like Green Bay or Buffalo having a dome. It gives an identity
@@DeVon-ho2is lmao don’t show your lack of brain skills so openly buddy. This ain’t just about some fake “identity” that literally has NEVER helped us 🤣
Build the dome By The Lake!
Brook Park here comes the BROWNS 😁
DOME or go
Build the Dome
Some college stadiums are almost a century in age...yet they want to possibly replace a 25 year old stadium?
Build a domed stadium but at the current site. Indy has theirs connected to their convention center. why build it in the middle of nowhere?!?
Not anymore its not. That was the RCA Dome. Lucas Oil the "new" stadium is separate from the convention center. Its not a far walk though.
Where would they play in the meantime?
@@ScottdrumsThey'd play at First Energy and the new stadium would open when their lease runs out.
Maybe they can turn the old stadium and just add a roof
The city wants the property for their yuppy stuff.....
The Bengals are in the same situation
I believe that the Bengals are doing a complete renovation.
Just move the team out of Cleveland again.
Open stadium. Weather is what makes football special. And home field advantage..I was at the blizzard bowl and it's a memory I will never forget. And I live in LA. Domes are boring
@@wheelman1232 agree to disagree. They're not that frequent.
@@BerlographyI agree. football stadiums should be outdoors otherwise the NFL would be following an agenda of all domed stadiums except Green Bay.
What home field advantage the Browns has never had home field advantage
@@demarcosanders6249 you apparently didn't see the defensive rank for Browns home v away last year..it was huge difference
@Berlography ok there defense was good at home but bad on the road but how many winning season they had at home since 99 not counting last year
This has nothing to do with fan comfort. Don't accept those team excuses. It's always about the money. Who is going out to the airport to a bar when it isn't one of eight home games a year? It's all bullshit. Build your own stadium and stop asking the taxpayers for money. Nobody makes more money than the NFL. Corporate welfare and greed.
You put them in Brook Park we have holes in the Brook Park of you on the map again just like all the holes used to be
the stadium is 24 years old.. MOVE THE TEAM.
Ownership is enamored with US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis? That facility is downtown, not in a suburb. The Haslam's should do the land swap with the Post Office: they get the Post Office site just south of 90 and the USPS can build a new, modern facility right next to the airport.
Build State of the Art indoor facility.
It's all bs the city wants the lake front property anyhow
All of you voting for the Dome are failing to realize you will be paying for it. Youll be paying either choice, so why vote for the more expensive choice when you wont profit off of either one?
Right! Especially for those of us, that don't even go to games.
I’m a truck driver. I used to live in Tennessee, but I live in Minnesota now. I’ve been to US Bank Stadium multiple times. For Vikings games and concerts. The stadium is in the downtown area with lots of local restaurants and bars within walking distance. Light rail drops you off right next to the stadium. There are parking structures all around (I paid $50 to park for the Taylor Swift concert).
If they decide to build a domed stadium for the Browns, I hope it’s in an area with local businesses, or in a place where they can build up the area.
Sorry you have to deal with the Haslams. I was sad when I found out Randy Lerner had sold the team to them.
Thats what you get for being a Swifty.
@@calvinhobbes6118 Go troll somewhere else
@@calvinhobbes6118 And yet she's doing more for local economy, than anyone else.
🤔, hmmm, 12 events per year and a concert 'here or there'? That also sounds like 'we would rather build a new Dome', lol! The Stadium on the lake was finished in 1999, right? I wonder what the rennovations would look like and the details. I still think they could look to attract more than a concert here or there but we'll see. Not sure what is going on in Chicago this week with the Bears but it seemed like they were looking to bolt for the 'Burbs but then that cooled.
As long as HE pays for it.
The new number is now $3.6 Billion for a dome stadium. Our economy can't afford this.
There is nothing wrong with this stadium it still looks good!
it does not. have you gone to the stadium and sat at various seats. They are too squished up because they were constructed 25 years back and people were thinner. no joke
@@rohan-ghoshso rather pay for a whole new stadium, the city of Cleveland should encourage the Brown fans to lose weight.
PLEASE MOVE THE STADIUM TO BROOKPARK...DOME WOULD BE MUCH BETTER FOR THE FANS
Dome
I’m a Bills fan and I wish we had a dome so build a dome you can have so many events well worth it.
I was young back in the 90s but wasn't cleveland browns stadium rushed
I say go for it! Build the new dome in Brook Park!😁👍🏈
There is absolutely no limit to the greed of an NFL owner.
I'm a cleveland browns fan and I like the stadium but I thank its time to get a new stadium you could do a lot of stuff with a dome stadium
Man, that Brookpark area is gorgeous!
Seriously the Cleveland browns current stadium looks nice.
How about hosting *one* playoff game first before going forward with renovations or a new stadium.
Btw, Uber or Lyft to and from the stadium and don’t worry about paying $60-100 to park and your vehicle getting broken into.
Don’t take offense to this people of Cleveland , I’m from Georgia and I worry about the same when going to see the Atlanta falcons. I prefer to park at a friends and Uber to and from the game.
A lot less stressful
Don’t do that Domes are stupid weather is apart of the game it plays to your Advantage Look at Miami when they just went to KC Now imagine if KC had a dome that game would be different.. Now the Browns are Good imagine a Home Field Playoff game in Late January It would play out to their advantage.
I like the US bank stadium looks great i think it will be a good fit from Book park and you have different events happening The question remains is how are you going to prepare a safe zone around the airport and new stadium on game days. Now you have the stadium idea what about the layout of the outside parking area and access roads How can you keep traffic from not backing up. There should be a Road for Stadium traffic only Like Stadum Drive then its controlled on game day/event day and well as Airport Traffic road So On game day or event day like nothing impaced those who are going to the airport has there own road, those going to the stadium, venue has there own road that seperate from the airport road. for example isf Taylor swift put a concert on at the facility no one will be able to get into the parking lot of the venue or the airport because it will be filled with swiffities.
Also, close to RTA rapid transit.
Ridiculous! There's nothing wrong with the Browns stadium. Always finding a way to spend more money.
Don't make the same mistake the Bills are doing!! Put a lid on it rent it out all year long and help recoup some money!!
Retractable Roof. I know that’s more money, but have options. 🤷🏻♂️
hope they move to brookpark
Dome stadium would be awesome Brock park here comes the browines
I wonder how much they will ask in terms of tax breaks and tax payer donations.
Tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars' worth.
Build it! EVERYBODY complaining will be the FIRST ones camping out and lined up to get into the NEW DOMED STADIUM once it’s built💯 🤣🤣🤣
Why not save money and renovate the current stadium into a dome?
Who will pay for it???
wish we could build something like lucus pil stadium downtown cle.
our 3 major sports teams are all this city has left man... I love watching games on the lake. brookpark sucks
Powerball jackpot is a billion dollars right now... just saying!
DOME!!!!
Who's going to pay for it?
If the dome is such a profitable option, the ownership should have no trouble securing their own damn financing. It’s unreal that we have to keep being held hostage by billionaires to pay for what they want.
The Browns need to be redacted as a franchise. Spending $2bn plus on a new stadium is asinine. Rarely are entertaining districts around stadiums busy or profitable
They could have done that when they first started the new stadium back in the day
Screw dome stadiums
you cant put a roof over a stadum near an airport
play in ohio state for two year whil its being built at the same place its at
Not going to solve any of the issues by staying in same place. The location of the stadium at the Brook Park property will not be in any of the flight paths of the runways. If you think about it, the location will be unlike anything in the world - next to an airport. That will help our region and help the airport grow into hub status again with possibility of direct international flights. I can get behind this plan!
@@OhioHoon cant have a roof 0on it near airport
@@Spense-G I don't think it's an issue. They wouldn't be discussing it if it was. The shorter, lesser used East/West runway has a path directly over the Ford Engine plant located on Brook Park Road. The Browns stadium would be close to a half-mile south of that, closer to Snow Road. The busier North/South runway is about 1.5 miles from where the stadium would be placed and planes would not fly over any part of the property on take off or landing. There is an old hotel at Hopkins next to Arrival/Departure area of terminal that may be as high, if not higher, as a closed stadium. I would be shocked if it can't be figured out. Too many positives to overlook. I think it would be a one-of-a-kind project with extremely easy access for those in the region and outside of Ohio flying in for events. Slam dunk to me.
We need the dome so we can host a superbowl
The ROI on that $2B investment will pay off in much less than half the time of the $1B renovation.
Dome in brookpark please or at least a dome anywhere
can ask DW to contribute since he rarely plays
Taking the browns to St. Louis
So they would become the brookpark browns?
uumm no...we didnt call it Richfield Cavaliers, they dont call them the New Jersey Giants/Jets, not the foxborough Patriots...it will still be Cleveland Browns
Land swap. Haslams should swap land with the city of Cleveland. The city gives the Haslams the old stadium and Burke. Haslams give the city the Brookpark land. Haslam could then build on the lake and develop the lakefront. Cleveland could knock down their garbage tiny airport and build a big, new, world class airport. Everyone wins.
And yet when Modell was in municipal and the city is going to condemn it. He was the villain for even asking for repairs to be paid for by the city while they built Jacobs, Field and Gund arena not to mention the rock ‘n’ roll Hall of Fame. I hate to say it, but my families city is full of a bunch of damn hypocrites.
Nonsense. Art Modell was offered a new stadium as part of the Gateway project and declined it.
A Brookpark stadium would be an absolute fucking Boondoggle. Right now you can take the Train to the stadium. Would you be able to do that at the proposed location at Brookpark? Nope. All the selling points about it having "new restaurants" is all contingent on the stadium being there in the first place, which is only 8-games a year of increased traffic to those restaurants. Maybe 12 throughout the whole year.
Literally everything they said is a reason is BS.
The Haslam's can "Muck-up" a nocturnal emission ... forget tradition anymore... grew up going to the old Municipal Stadium, but that is a bygone era... I guess all of this is called "progress?"
All the issues in Cleveland and this is were 1 or 2 billion dollars are going too? You know what 2 billion dollars can do for the city of Cleveland?
The minnianapolis stadium is badically Downtown. This boondoggle would be notwhere near the City of Cleveland. Build the dome downtown or don't do it at all. Period. Fullstop.
Imagine that stadium sitting there empty while taxpayers build them a new one with the Browns making money off parking instead of the City. The taxpayer subsidies are the only reason a new stadium would be profitable for team. Imagine hundreds of millions of dollars more being spent on education.
Jimmies plan is the way to go!!!!!!!!!!!
NO DOME STADIUM. Thats not football.
Sorry, but domes aren't pretty looking and lack identity. This is CLEVELAND football! In a perfect world the lakefront and refurbished stadium would be very identifable and make the Browns stand out from other cities for once!
Stadiums in the suburbs are bland.
Only 25 years old!
Stadiums like the Browns and Bills are so outdated.
Dome or not dome, the Browns have been dead to me since the day they left
Jimmy > Jay
No dome
Sounds like a scam
I do lot want a dome that’s not who we are. The hell are they doing
With all these high tech domes, people are forgetting what make football football and that’s the elements
Some of us like to watch the game in comfort
@@GTJCexactly
Cleveland is a crappy city 😮 You could build a Cesar's Palace and it's still in Cleveland.
Wwe summer slam 2024
This is stupid. Billionaires and NFL have lost their marbles. This stadium is barely 25 years old. Don't need a new stadium
Billionaires looking for corporate welfare... nothing new here.🤷
Haslems stop dragon your feet and start building that stadium in Brook Park. Just Build the Damm Stadium in Brook Park PLEASE please
I will be happy when that crap stadium is demolished. The city rushed to build it because the Browns were coming back, and it had to be built quickly. Not to mention it was built cheaply with cheap materials, and when the foundation cracked before week 1, 1999, I thought the stadium might be doomed then. Its amazing tht crap stadium lasted this long, but it has, sadly. 1B renovation, whats that going to do? Spray perfume on a turd? Nah, the city built it, they can eat it, I prefer state of the art, well built things that are multipurpose.
This choice is painfully obvious, and it has been for some time. Get that stadium off the lake and put a dome on the new one. Our lakefront has been a complete disaster for decades, putting a stadium there was stupid on top of dumb. Even a dome stadium in the current location makes zero sense. A billion dollars into a dump, it makes no sense that means they will probably do it.
I'm glad I don't live in a big city. I don't want to be the sucker tax payers stuck paying for these monstrosaties for rich people.
I think if you live in Minnesota you might be helping pay for US Bank.
💩 to the superbowl
If the game was still played like it was in the 80’s, I would say keep it outside. The blue collar mentality team just doesn’t cut it in today’s game. When you’re in the gun 95% of the time chucking it around the yard, it just doesn’t make sense. As a fan I didn’t mind it but would have preferred to be inside instead of watching Brian Sipe throw an interception to end the game when it was 157 degrees below zero. It’s all good, just saying. Build a dome already, it’s time.
Who in Canton near freaking football Hall of Fame?
Cleveland brown goodbye
To much crime in cleveland even sport players been robbed and jacked its time to leave Cleveland folks wont spend if they got to dodge bullets and hope they car is good not to metion poop and piss on sidewalks gross
We deserve dome
Deserve? 😂😂😂😂😂
And you will pay dearly for it. $2 Billion is a lot of money, taxpayers will pay hundreds of millions towards it.
@@calvinhobbes6118 awesome!
@@calvinhobbes6118 Actually taxpayers will pay over a billion (that's 1000 million).
Retractable roof... no dome.
Sell Nfts and build a dome
Dome
This is ridiculous!!! The money can be used on improving financially struggling schools and helping those who are in need of housing and food to live. We should not pay for rich people make more money off monies they steal from citizens.
Do a Dome on the current location. Get over the weather and Lake Erie effect home field advantage theory. Do a Dome, get a Super Bowl, Big Ten Football Championship, CFP championship, concerts, NCAA Final Four, etc. and get the most bang for your buck! Cleveland Brown fans are the home field advantage, not the weather.