An Item I want in these types of games is a Drafting Desk, where you can go into creator mode to create building blueprints so as you fly about in this white space and design the building you want, then once it's done, you post out a construction area, and toss in supplies and just build it up like a RTS builder unit.
@CaffeinatedDad I've watched a few videos that have done some deeper examination. One stated that the closed Beta test was looking into correcting things with how guns function. I don't know how long ago this was however.
What the article you're referring to said is, there are 10 "survival maps", but the deep desert map (i.e. the hardest place to survive, i.e. you're not going to be whistling in the park walking in it) is nine times the size of the Conan: Exiles map.
Old strategy was to cache water as you move forward so on the return you have water. I hope we can do that. I hope we get some sort of journal that helps us map the area. Too bad Prima went out of business, they made great guides .
You know who else promised us a massive gane and even showed bits of the game and trailers and such ... Anthem. Also if you've played spice wars they are literally making spice wars into a pov mmo variant .. I'm excited as well truly but alot of devs have let us down lately so temper you're excitement
For the harvesters, being able to take them from another player/guild, the npc crew comes out once taken to fight. If the npc crew wins the battle, do they revert back to being your havester?
Phantasy Star Online 2 has a setup where I believe most money comes from cosmetics and subscriptions give you bonuses that aren't really major things. I hope they take a route where money comes from cosmetic things, because this game could have some pretty cool cosmetics. Also an optional subscription with things that are useful, but not pay to win. I hate subscriptions, but I constantly pay for premium in PSO2, because the game makes me want to come back to it. Even though it lacks content there are so many options not only for cosmetics, but how you use them. For example I have a different looking character attached to each class when I switch them (you level classes separately on your characters rather than having to create a new character to use a different class. Basically like how FF14 works).
As far as the subscription goes, I'd like to see what the value of having it is. I've had subs before with SWTOR and ESO, both of which you can play for free but certain perks for having it and none were pay to win. Anyway I'm very interested in this game and looking forward to the release and hope it turns out good.
That's where I feel most of the complaints stem from. They want content and games for free to play with extra monetization from a cash shop. It's not always sustainable
Ornithopters. Do you pilot them, or aim at a point and it goes? ie Does using Microsoft Flight Simulator - DUNE expansion, actually parallel skills you need in game to fly one?
You pilot them, they mentioned one player playing lookout for worms in one and a couple more on the ground, then them all dying to a sandstorm because they tried to stay too long and couldn't out fly the storm lol
I think it's cool it's based off Dune but I hope with time, it breaks away a little and stands alone as a game with its own identity. Dune elements mixed with different creative ideas.
Unfortunately I cannot speak to Conan as I have no experience in it. It seems to be more weight behind the game because of the success of the movies so perhaps they will have heightened focus on its development. I had heard that Conan had some turbulence through its development
There is no getting around playing in the shared world, but the devs have been clear that you can play on your own and still have a good game experience. We'll see how true that is once the game releases
I expect that it is much like Conan exiles where you can just start your own local game via the client (but still have friends be able to connect to it)
I really want to get excited about this but it's made by Funcom and they can't even release a Conan Exiles update without breaking the game. The last game I got excited about was Nightingale and that was a huge let down. This one is a wait and see for me.
The Deep Desert Seems to be the one that is identified as the largest server, This sounds like itll be the central hub of most playtime. Attached to the deep desert there will be smaller servers that may have 50-100 which seems to be the shield wall (Base building area)
Perhaps, but this is a large game and if there's going to be continued service it wouldn't be far fetched to see there choice for monetization. Perhaps optional? But hey it's not in my hands!
I'd like to see cryptocurrency integrated in this game and allow an open trading systems like we see in GUILD WARS 2 and being able to store that crypto into cold wallets if we chose to. I would like to see players have the option to select any of the great houses they choose to be a part of and also offer the chance to start your own great house if certain requirements are met. I would like to see weekly or monthly events held which will allows guilds to compete amongst each other and build a reputation among the guilded communities through sheer force victories. You can't imagine the feeling a player gets when one receives recognition without decoration. They will remember my name...
on the one hand I love dune... on the other hand... forced PVP just annoys the hell out of me.... so maybe I'll just watch people stream it. (edit) ohh no forced PVP... ok ok... I'm listening!
I think I am cautiously excited about the game. It's a major ip and they have alot on their expectations do I hope they make it reasonably good for all pve and pvp enjoyers
the potentiality for dune is massive ... including space exploration etc. This could be the eve online with walking on planets everyone has always wanted.
So a player can take your ornithopter and leave you stranded in the Deep Desert... but not really. You can just pull your spare vehicle out of your butt and fly off. That makes me not want to play it but not for the reasons you think. Dune is brutal, Dune Awakening the game already sounds like coddling babies. Aww somebody stole your safest method of transport... have another. NO! Make them walk. Make them call a friend. Make them pay a heap of currency for an NPC pick up. Make it SURVIVAL not convenience.
Ahh I think you are fortune telling here. I agree if past experience is to be true they made some mistakes, or at least I have read that. But they have alot of eyes on them now due to the movies success and they are not rushing development so I would say cautiously optimistic
Here is what I fore see happening. Not that I am anyone special, but.. so people can build their huge sandcastles without being knocked over.. cool. That’s cool. But, just like any other pve game, they get bored after they have satisfied their want to build something huge, then move on to another game. Like, valhiem. Where did all the hype go? Gone. Pvp is obviously the more popular choice in “survival” titles. Rust dayz scum, all great games. Like how single player games, you beat the final boss, and most people just don’t come back. Anyone inside the shield probably doesn’t like pvp, so anything that goes out outside, they won’t be a part of. So all that’s left are pvpers. But not even sure about that, because as far as survival pvp, rust is the king of that genre, there is something about being able to base raid, and get loot that just doesn’t get old to pvpers. It’s replayable and exciting. This game won’t really have a lot of that. And it sounds like the pve dudes will pretty much have the same success without doing anything pvp, so that’s kinda lame, pvpers like thrill of survival in player conflict. Sure some people play simple games like call of duty for quick pvp. This game is a survival game. We already have a king of that genre. Probably always will be for the foreseeable future. So to say that people don’t like that gameplay is Ignorant if you look up the charts to see how many players that game has even to this day. Facts are facts. This game sounds like a jack of all trades, but a master of none. It’s really hard to please a pve crowd, and a pvp at the same time. Safe zones suck. If they just had a military just guarding a certain area, but still not impossible to do some shenanigans, that would be cool. Have the players a bounty on their head or something that keeps balance in a higher security area. Like eve online, for example, in high security space, you do something wrong there, concord comes after you. But, pve people always act toxic towards pvp people and use personal insults towards them rather than just letting them play how they want to without saying things like, they are horrible people. It’s pixels for crying out loud.
"Jack of all trades is a master of none but oftentimes better than a master of one" I fixed it for you, also how is variety of gameplay bad? It caters equally to pve, and pvp players, and even players who just wanna craft and sell their wares, seems like a win win for everyone to me. Forced pvp just means you'll have pvp players fighting people who wanna play the game but don't love pvp and causing frustration for everyone. Separating that ensures the pvp players as well as the pve ones can play how they want optimally.
Respectfully I see your point, erring pve and pvp in the same game without favoritism has been difficult in psst mmos. I look at the open world pvp in wow for war mode where it was mostly people not playing war mode because they didn't want to get ranked. It's going to be a balance for sure
@@GrimViridianpvp in a pve setting tends to be much more shallow than games like, rust, scum, dayz, tarkov etc etc. survival mmos, for pvp players means huge losses, as well as huge wins. That’s why we play them. Because winning against players and getting loot feels better than beating a final boss in a pve game, and players give you better content than any AI ever could. Putting both together in one game just makes it just kinda shallow. And in alot of games, loss drives an economy. People buy what they loss, meaning crafters stay in business. Albion, and eve online are two examples. It’s hard to put the two together. If they pull it off, great. But pvp in survival games isn’t just running around an arena shooting each other like call of duty, that’s not what survival pvp players are looking for. Rust, dayz, and tarkov have really set the standard in this genre for what brings excitement to it all. Putting in a system where pve thrives equally kind of takes away the thunder pvp has. It just doesn’t work. You like pve, that’s fine. I don’t. One thing about pvp is it’s replayable for years. Pve games kinda just fade because the content is limited. Players are our bosses in pvp, their loot is our loot chests after the boss is beaten.
@@CaffeinatedDad I appreciate it, if they make it all work together great, cool. Involving pve players into the war/political setting would just make the game feel more alive, rather than them just sitting in a safe zone building their castles, unaffected by the powers that be. It’s a vibe ruiner, in my opinion. Dune stories have no safe zones. Just because a house doesn’t want to get attacked, doesn’t mean they don’t l. It’s part of a story. I get that some people just don’t want to pvp, but to actually have mechanics in the game that places a hard barrier between the two is just a bad taste, in my opinion. Especially when the safe zones offer the same content all the way to end game
Well you're commenting about a "survival mmo" so I'm not sure why you're here besides to complain lol, but that being said conan exiles had single player, a game like this is not nearly as complete playing by yourself but it could happen here too
I would love this but the forced pvp make this game a no go area for me, The reason for this is clear they dont want to pay for the servers so they are trying to force everyone into the same few servers and for a pve player who just wants to play the game without a bunch of idiots ruining it for us having thousands of hours and many dlc on conan they are clearly trying to be smart but it wont work. This is just a forced pvp game pretending to be friendly to pve.
It's Funcom. As someone who has a long history with the company and their games, especially Conan Exiles. I'm here to tell you. Don't support this game. Don't support these devs. They spend more time breaking their games than anything else. They spend more time removing what was popular, and investing in things the community as a whole didn't ask for. And if Conan has taught me anything. Anything official will be 1,000% toxic. While sure this game looks like something that'd be right up my alley. I've been burned and spurned by Funcom to actually continue to support them as a studio or dev team.
I'm cautiously optimistic. I believe there is lots of things that are a question mark. Simply put I'm hoping for something good but not getting my hope super high
Yes but not immediately its apparently going to take some time learn after contacting and working with the Fremen. They mention a book that you can learn the ability but your not going to be good at it at first.
they NEED to show melee fight to get me, integral part of DUNE is the close combat
Yes! I know the beta testers are under an NDA so they can't show anything yet but I need to know the melee components!
The more I hear the more excited I get. Even if the heavy pvp focus makes me a bit anxious.
It seems like there are pvp specific areas but they did confirm you can play and not do pvp!
@@CaffeinatedDad
I hope so. I’m not a huge PvP fan.
this game could very easily end up like gta online and rdr2 online it could get ruined by griefers
@danielconnolly3125 well conan exiles had both private servers and single player so maybe it'll be here too
I want to play single player
An Item I want in these types of games is a Drafting Desk, where you can go into creator mode to create building blueprints so as you fly about in this white space and design the building you want, then once it's done, you post out a construction area, and toss in supplies and just build it up like a RTS builder unit.
That would be an awesome addition! I like that idea!
2:37 The heighliners are the biggest structures in all of the universe and there are worms on Arrakis big enough to swallow them.
I just read the size of the hieghliners that they can basically fit all of Duke letos possessions... the size of that Worm is scary
@@CaffeinatedDad - Don’t forget all of their enemies’ possessions as well with space in between each craft. Herbert was good at creating scale.
@@Corion2121 I was just reading that! I've picked up the book to educate myself!
I am cautiously optimistic.
Agreed. It looks like it could be amazing but I'm also not one for jumping so much into hype before testing the game a bit first
@CaffeinatedDad I've watched a few videos that have done some deeper examination. One stated that the closed Beta test was looking into correcting things with how guns function. I don't know how long ago this was however.
Ive had this game on my wishlist since it was first announced im hyped
Yo same!
would be cool asf if we could have badass looking sword fights like in the movies with different techniques and blades.
What the article you're referring to said is, there are 10 "survival maps", but the deep desert map (i.e. the hardest place to survive, i.e. you're not going to be whistling in the park walking in it) is nine times the size of the Conan: Exiles map.
Old strategy was to cache water as you move forward so on the return you have water. I hope we can do that. I hope we get some sort of journal that helps us map the area. Too bad Prima went out of business, they made great guides .
You know who else promised us a massive gane and even showed bits of the game and trailers and such ... Anthem. Also if you've played spice wars they are literally making spice wars into a pov mmo variant .. I'm excited as well truly but alot of devs have let us down lately so temper you're excitement
Got a feeling we'll be waiting until around fall 2024 before reaching either an open beta and/or early access release just like Conan Exiles.
For the harvesters, being able to take them from another player/guild, the npc crew comes out once taken to fight. If the npc crew wins the battle, do they revert back to being your havester?
Don't know that off hand but that's actually a pretty good thought. Your crew wins at another players base and it comes back to you?
Phantasy Star Online 2 has a setup where I believe most money comes from cosmetics and subscriptions give you bonuses that aren't really major things. I hope they take a route where money comes from cosmetic things, because this game could have some pretty cool cosmetics. Also an optional subscription with things that are useful, but not pay to win. I hate subscriptions, but I constantly pay for premium in PSO2, because the game makes me want to come back to it. Even though it lacks content there are so many options not only for cosmetics, but how you use them. For example I have a different looking character attached to each class when I switch them (you level classes separately on your characters rather than having to create a new character to use a different class. Basically like how FF14 works).
See I would totally be on board for this! If I had the optional subscription paired with a cosmetic store I'm OK with that, that's fair to me!
Any idea if you will be able to get companions to defend your base and speed up workbench crafting like in conan?
I'd imagine there will be recruitment npcs, however I have not seen nor heard anything about that yet
I hope Stealth is a core mechanic!
I mean I can't see that NOT being an option, maybe not every character class but it has to be there
THE SPICE MUST FLOW!
*dramatic AHHHH in the background*
Good call, man! Keep on cruisin'. Keep on goin'.
Thanks! Will do! I'm very excited about this game!
@@CaffeinatedDad 😎✊️💪😂
As far as the subscription goes, I'd like to see what the value of having it is. I've had subs before with SWTOR and ESO, both of which you can play for free but certain perks for having it and none were pay to win. Anyway I'm very interested in this game and looking forward to the release and hope it turns out good.
I'd probably see a purchase the game and optional subscription for cosmetics or some other minor QoL items. Hopefully not a money sink.
I guess the spice must flow.
It's not just that they are trying to Make money and it is a business is the development is not free neither people want content without paying for it
That's where I feel most of the complaints stem from. They want content and games for free to play with extra monetization from a cash shop. It's not always sustainable
Ornithopters. Do you pilot them, or aim at a point and it goes? ie Does using Microsoft Flight Simulator - DUNE expansion, actually parallel skills you need in game to fly one?
You pilot them, they mentioned one player playing lookout for worms in one and a couple more on the ground, then them all dying to a sandstorm because they tried to stay too long and couldn't out fly the storm lol
@@GrimViridian OOOOO So maybe I should get MS Flight Sim and give it a try. B-)
You pilot them and I'm sure there's going to be certain air craft Co pilot seats for shooting missles or guns. I'd believe at least!
I think it's cool it's based off Dune but I hope with time, it breaks away a little and stands alone as a game with its own identity. Dune elements mixed with different creative ideas.
so is it like a actual MMO or like conan exiles MMO?
Unfortunately I cannot speak to Conan as I have no experience in it. It seems to be more weight behind the game because of the success of the movies so perhaps they will have heightened focus on its development. I had heard that Conan had some turbulence through its development
Is there single player in the game
There is no getting around playing in the shared world, but the devs have been clear that you can play on your own and still have a good game experience. We'll see how true that is once the game releases
Yes and no it seems. You can of course play solo and they have set things up for you to be solo but as far as the actual depth, it is uncertain
I expect that it is much like Conan exiles where you can just start your own local game via the client (but still have friends be able to connect to it)
I really want to get excited about this but it's made by Funcom and they can't even release a Conan Exiles update without breaking the game. The last game I got excited about was Nightingale and that was a huge let down. This one is a wait and see for me.
Agreed. Right now cautiously optimistic is my saying
Are we going to create a CDG guild when this launches?
I am actually all about it lol have you considered this game?
@@CaffeinatedDad yeah it's shaping up to seem like a game I'll like.
His name is Joel Bylos btw not Jeff. Jeff is the other one lol
THE GAMER HAS AWOKEN
As it is written.
wait each server can have up to 500 players ?
The Deep Desert Seems to be the one that is identified as the largest server, This sounds like itll be the central hub of most playtime. Attached to the deep desert there will be smaller servers that may have 50-100 which seems to be the shield wall (Base building area)
Why would you EVER suggest a subscription based pay model that shit is absolutely the WORST possible option.
Perhaps, but this is a large game and if there's going to be continued service it wouldn't be far fetched to see there choice for monetization.
Perhaps optional? But hey it's not in my hands!
Its Joel not Jeff😂 Joel Bylos and Jeff Besoz is close tho
I feel like such a fool... lol
IGN wants to know how gay it is
lol
I'd like to see cryptocurrency integrated in this game and allow an open trading systems like we see in GUILD WARS 2 and being able to store that crypto into cold wallets if we chose to. I would like to see players have the option to select any of the great houses they choose to be a part of and also offer the chance to start your own great house if certain requirements are met. I would like to see weekly or monthly events held which will allows guilds to compete amongst each other and build a reputation among the guilded communities through sheer force victories. You can't imagine the feeling a player gets when one receives recognition without decoration. They will remember my name...
on the one hand I love dune...
on the other hand... forced PVP just annoys the hell out of me....
so maybe I'll just watch people stream it.
(edit) ohh no forced PVP... ok ok... I'm listening!
I think I am cautiously excited about the game. It's a major ip and they have alot on their expectations do I hope they make it reasonably good for all pve and pvp enjoyers
the potentiality for dune is massive ... including space exploration etc. This could be the eve online with walking on planets everyone has always wanted.
#Funcom #Dune #lesson #Slow #modified
So a player can take your ornithopter and leave you stranded in the Deep Desert... but not really. You can just pull your spare vehicle out of your butt and fly off. That makes me not want to play it but not for the reasons you think. Dune is brutal, Dune Awakening the game already sounds like coddling babies. Aww somebody stole your safest method of transport... have another. NO! Make them walk. Make them call a friend. Make them pay a heap of currency for an NPC pick up. Make it SURVIVAL not convenience.
Glorified version of conan and we know how broken that game is and how useless the devs are in fixing it. This game will be broken also
Ahh I think you are fortune telling here. I agree if past experience is to be true they made some mistakes, or at least I have read that. But they have alot of eyes on them now due to the movies success and they are not rushing development so I would say cautiously optimistic
But is there nudity ? :)))
Here is what I fore see happening. Not that I am anyone special, but.. so people can build their huge sandcastles without being knocked over.. cool. That’s cool. But, just like any other pve game, they get bored after they have satisfied their want to build something huge, then move on to another game. Like, valhiem. Where did all the hype go? Gone. Pvp is obviously the more popular choice in “survival” titles. Rust dayz scum, all great games. Like how single player games, you beat the final boss, and most people just don’t come back. Anyone inside the shield probably doesn’t like pvp, so anything that goes out outside, they won’t be a part of. So all that’s left are pvpers. But not even sure about that, because as far as survival pvp, rust is the king of that genre, there is something about being able to base raid, and get loot that just doesn’t get old to pvpers. It’s replayable and exciting. This game won’t really have a lot of that. And it sounds like the pve dudes will pretty much have the same success without doing anything pvp, so that’s kinda lame, pvpers like thrill of survival in player conflict. Sure some people play simple games like call of duty for quick pvp. This game is a survival game. We already have a king of that genre. Probably always will be for the foreseeable future. So to say that people don’t like that gameplay is Ignorant if you look up the charts to see how many players that game has even to this day. Facts are facts. This game sounds like a jack of all trades, but a master of none. It’s really hard to please a pve crowd, and a pvp at the same time. Safe zones suck. If they just had a military just guarding a certain area, but still not impossible to do some shenanigans, that would be cool. Have the players a bounty on their head or something that keeps balance in a higher security area. Like eve online, for example, in high security space, you do something wrong there, concord comes after you. But, pve people always act toxic towards pvp people and use personal insults towards them rather than just letting them play how they want to without saying things like, they are horrible people. It’s pixels for crying out loud.
"Jack of all trades is a master of none but oftentimes better than a master of one" I fixed it for you, also how is variety of gameplay bad? It caters equally to pve, and pvp players, and even players who just wanna craft and sell their wares, seems like a win win for everyone to me. Forced pvp just means you'll have pvp players fighting people who wanna play the game but don't love pvp and causing frustration for everyone. Separating that ensures the pvp players as well as the pve ones can play how they want optimally.
Respectfully I see your point, erring pve and pvp in the same game without favoritism has been difficult in psst mmos. I look at the open world pvp in wow for war mode where it was mostly people not playing war mode because they didn't want to get ranked.
It's going to be a balance for sure
@@GrimViridianpvp in a pve setting tends to be much more shallow than games like, rust, scum, dayz, tarkov etc etc. survival mmos, for pvp players means huge losses, as well as huge wins. That’s why we play them. Because winning against players and getting loot feels better than beating a final boss in a pve game, and players give you better content than any AI ever could. Putting both together in one game just makes it just kinda shallow. And in alot of games, loss drives an economy. People buy what they loss, meaning crafters stay in business. Albion, and eve online are two examples. It’s hard to put the two together. If they pull it off, great. But pvp in survival games isn’t just running around an arena shooting each other like call of duty, that’s not what survival pvp players are looking for. Rust, dayz, and tarkov have really set the standard in this genre for what brings excitement to it all. Putting in a system where pve thrives equally kind of takes away the thunder pvp has. It just doesn’t work. You like pve, that’s fine. I don’t. One thing about pvp is it’s replayable for years. Pve games kinda just fade because the content is limited. Players are our bosses in pvp, their loot is our loot chests after the boss is beaten.
@@CaffeinatedDad I appreciate it, if they make it all work together great, cool. Involving pve players into the war/political setting would just make the game feel more alive, rather than them just sitting in a safe zone building their castles, unaffected by the powers that be. It’s a vibe ruiner, in my opinion. Dune stories have no safe zones. Just because a house doesn’t want to get attacked, doesn’t mean they don’t l. It’s part of a story. I get that some people just don’t want to pvp, but to actually have mechanics in the game that places a hard barrier between the two is just a bad taste, in my opinion. Especially when the safe zones offer the same content all the way to end game
If there no single player fuck game i hate multiplayer
awww. anyway
Having fun with friends is the best thing about gaming
Well you're commenting about a "survival mmo" so I'm not sure why you're here besides to complain lol, but that being said conan exiles had single player, a game like this is not nearly as complete playing by yourself but it could happen here too
I would love this but the forced pvp make this game a no go area for me, The reason for this is clear they dont want to pay for the servers so they are trying to force everyone into the same few servers and for a pve player who just wants to play the game without a bunch of idiots ruining it for us having thousands of hours and many dlc on conan they are clearly trying to be smart but it wont work. This is just a forced pvp game pretending to be friendly to pve.
It's Funcom. As someone who has a long history with the company and their games, especially Conan Exiles. I'm here to tell you. Don't support this game. Don't support these devs. They spend more time breaking their games than anything else. They spend more time removing what was popular, and investing in things the community as a whole didn't ask for. And if Conan has taught me anything. Anything official will be 1,000% toxic. While sure this game looks like something that'd be right up my alley. I've been burned and spurned by Funcom to actually continue to support them as a studio or dev team.
I'm cautiously optimistic. I believe there is lots of things that are a question mark. Simply put I'm hoping for something good but not getting my hope super high
I genuinely like the way they intend to implement everything. I'm giving it a try. I hope you're wrong.
I smell scam
But will there be sandwalking?
Yes but not immediately its apparently going to take some time learn after contacting and working with the Fremen. They mention a book that you can learn the ability but your not going to be good at it at first.
@@CaffeinatedDad What interview is that mentioned in? Would you be able to put source in the description?
@felixhaggblom7562 it is in the description! Interview was done with WCCTech!
@@CaffeinatedDad There it is! Totally missed it haha. Thanks!
Yeah but if you have dragon flight in conan then this map was looked not so large yeah? But in dune everybody gonna have fly
I'm thinking that it could be specific spots. Perhaps the sandstorm is too rough in certain sections that prevent orinithipter flight