This probably shouldn't be done anytime soon after this video, but I remain curious regarding how much Sheldon Cooper is worth. There is an actual episode in "The Big Bang Theory" that basically gives you the information you need to do most of the math. That could make for a good quick video to make in between bigger, longer, more complex projects for the channel.
id like to see your opinion on IASIP season 16, kinda like how you went back and uploaded thoughts on bobs burgers season 12 and 13 after your ranking videos were uploaded
I actually think the show has even less respect for their target audience than for the nerds its about. Like, most of the jokes are basically: "lol, we're too dumb to grasp what they're saying, right guys?"
you do know it IS actually a studio audience laughing... there are some jokes where only a few people laugh, because you need a high level of education to get some of the jokes.
Listen, kids, all I can say is it made sense at the time. It premiered in like 2008 or so, at the time the video games were a laughing stock for mass media, something for little kids maybe. Shit like that just wasn't for television. Seeing a major television show mentioning Mario, let alone an emulator was a really refreshing experience. Other than people who were into it, no one had an idea there was a thing like an emulator you needed to play f.e. N64 games on PC. Not gonna lie, we were quite excited
my issue is that the nerd cultural references are so surface level. its just the superheros everyone knows even before the mcu, the only games they refrence are halo and world of warcraft, they talk alot of star trek but never talk about anything that isnt kirk, pircard or spock. they arent nerds, they are offensive caricatures of nerds.
It’s not laughing with nerds. It’s laughing at nurdes that show gives me the vibe that it’s made by people who are upset that nerd culture became prominent
Yea, that's really part of the problem too. "Wow guys, we just referenced (insert superhero/sci-fi thing/media literally everyone knows about even if they never watched it). Aren't we just so QUIRKY?"
You have described my biggest problem with the show. It's trying to pander to the nerd culture, but it's actively trying to mock it, put it down and paint the nerds as pathetic losers
Most people dunk on it, but Young Sheldon is actually a better show. No laugh track, the comedy sticks the landing most times, and emotional moments are allowed to have impact and depth instead of being undermined by another joke
just to expand on that, think about it. big bang was the last of shared cultural experiences for americans. after that it fragmented into the internet. the last big sitcom in america will be remembered for being anti-yt and hateful against the yt autistic man. Why do I spell it “yt”? because youtube won’t even let me write this comment if i don’t.
Funny. My wife says I am a mix of Leonard and Sheldon... I am a computer scientist who enjoys watching number theory videos. I also got every scientific joke they put in the show and had to explain it to my wife.
I feel like laugh tracks should always be like an afterthought, like see if it's funny on it's own before overlaying the laugh tracks to ensure it's a solid joke.
@@TheNight_Surgeon That's not really a joke, though. It's so obvious and caricatural that it completely misses the point. Sheldon is basically acting like an alien for several seasons in situations that would have happened to him multiple times over in his life. "WOW, HOW DO WE RESPOND TO EVERY DAY SARCASM, HAHAHA, I HAVE LIVED ALL MY 27 YEARS WITHOUT EVER ENCOUNTERING THAT" "WOW, OBVIOUS CONVERSATIONAL CUE? NEVER HEARD OF IT. " "*Hilarity*" ensues. Luckily, we got a laugh track to remind us to laugh because we would have never figured it out.
@MrLuchenkov - You're being silly. It's a TV show. If you don't like it, dont watch it . What about the show offends you so strongly ? Not nerdy enough ?
Carol Ann Susi was not dainty nor trim. What the hell are you talking about?! 😄 Ariana Grande is dainty and trim... - Having said that, mrs.Wolowitz was a good character though.
As someone who could enjoy TBBT but never really LOVED it, what I find so disappointing about the latter half of the show is that it tries to present these characters as growing and maturing, but the humor just gets meaner and meaner until you wonder why any of these people would be willing to sit in the same room as each other. Seriously, it just becomes a group of 30-somethings being horrible to each other with a laugh track, and then suddenly the finale tries to make it seem sentimental.
I know that, from the very beginning, a lot of the creative minds behind the show took inspiration from their own experiences in their youth or people they knew… but if that’s the case then they probably did the same thing as these characters were getting into relationships and eventually seeing what it’s like to be married be possibly using their own experiences with marriage - either their own or that of others - and I’d say that doesn’t reflect to well 😬
Exactly, I can understand sheldon didn’t knew social concepts etc in first half, thats why he came as mean. But in later he grew, he started understanding emotions, sarcasm etc. now he mean comments looks like he means it.
It didn't use a laughter track. Almost everything was filmed before a live audience. Scenes that could not be were shown to a live audience for a reaction. Where did this BS about a laughter track come from? There are literally pictures of the audience at the taping of the show, and some scenes caused such laughter there would be up to five minute interruptions. And no the humour didn't get meaner. They just got more sarcastic, which is what many of us get as we age. There is nothing wrong with sarcasm. The British and Irish use sarcasm almost as their second language. People so thin-skinned they get offended by sarcasm probably shouldn't go to those countries to visit.
I remember my brother seeing Big Bang Theory on the tv guide and saying " I don't want to be mildly amused I want to laugh." I think he turned on Spongebob instead.
@@learnfilminaminute9509 No he is actually incredibly smart and super good at math. We are both Spongebob fans but I'm the bigger fan of the two. Also, don't insult my family members.
@@learnfilminaminute9509 And this is why, except for possibly _Rick and Morty,_ _The Big Bang Theory_ has the most annoying fanbase of any American TV show.
1. It constantly calls "nerds" and what they enjoy as "pathetic" and "sad", and yet people think it is celebrating their culture for some reason. Calling something pathetic and sad is not comedy. 2. Majority of the time, the references are either wrong or way too surface level, its like your grandpa knows one word from the video game or a movie and they act cool. 3. It eventually completely shifted towards relationship show, while STILL making mockery of how pathetic these guys are "not getting laid" and "still enjoying child's games and collectibles" as if having a female partner outtrumps everything in life including having multipel PhDs and actual real world scientific advancement. What is said is that I actually used to enjoy this show and did finish the whole series because of great acting from Jim Parsons, but my god lot of the episodes were cringe or straight up rude with 0 comical success.
Jim Parsons acting was terrible as soon as he and Amy got together properly. He changed the most out of all and became a camp, silly, immature,dumb, childlike wally and became like the Joey of the group
I feel the few times the show hits a good joke, it hits it really well, but all the other times the jokes just suck, and there is basically no in between.
I don't think its pathetic and sad if someone is happy and can hold a job. I have Aspergers and I'm like those nerds in alot of ways, I have hobbies I really enjoy but I have trouble relating to people. People have asked me don't you get lonely and my answer is something alittle bit but my hobbies are what makes my life fun and meaningful, my hobbies are my wife, and for me socializing doesn't come naturally its hard work and its easier to be alone. I know its not healthy to be completely isolated so I occasionally force myself to be in social situations but 2 or 3 friend or two I can play HALO with is all I need, I'm fine with being single and not being the life of the party.
i used to like the show alot during the original few years. it gave me hope to celebrate my nerd part of me... when a friend (of whom is also quite nerdish) liked it a bit at first, had fallen off saying it was "making fun of nerd culture" , I thought he was being too picky, but i started to see that soon enough, didnt finish the last season but it was a show my ex and i would watch a lot of
@@Weathernerd27 I don't think OP means that your life would be pathetic and sad or anything like that, but the way the show is framed means that the show argues that their lives are pathetic. Kind of like propaganda against nerds lol. Bc it doesn't show the deeper aspects of what being a nerd is. Like what you just said here, 'my hobbies are my wife' is a very eloquent phrase and it shows a really interesting perspective. I often think the same way, honestly, but I don't have aspergers or anything. It's just that I find meaning in my goals (which don't tend to be about a specific person but more of a way of life). And I can spend hours at most museums alone lol. However, when I watched the show, I realized that the characters in TBBT don't have any real perspective to offer. It's nothing real, so it feels like anti-nerds made the show.
I’m not much of a comic book nerd myself but what I am is a dnd nerd. And the way these characters in the show interact about dnd is super odd to me. For example, they don’t let their girlfriends join their games because “dnd is not for girls.” In the actual dnd community this couldn’t be further from the truth. Dnd players are always super excited to introduce their girlfriends/boyfriends to their campaigns because it’s something we’re passionate about and want to share it with as many people as possible
Huh I'm not sure I remember what instance you're referring to? I seem to remember instances when the girls themselves weren't interested in dnd, but that was their personal choice. If anything if they were kept out it wasn't ever that "it's not for girl's" from what I remember, it might've been more that it was something specific that those guys felt was specifically their personal time to enjoy and bond over as I remember the girls not being interested in dnd, obviously we know that isn't all girls but just seemed to be that the female characters on the show didn't seem to take much interest in it. I specifically remember the episode where the girls did get into and started playing dnd with Will Wheaton, William Shatner and others and the guys were insanely jealous to not be a part because they got kept out from the girls, maybe as a response to what you were mentioning. Which maybe was the way they answered the "dnd is not for girls" thing you mentioned.
Not a big player, but watching _Community_ cover it makes it something that people would want to play. It seems like the people who made this show hate their characters and think they're weird.
"super excited" "passionate" 😂😂😂 probably the oddest comment I've heard regarding a TV show "what why didn't they want there girlfriends to play DND,it's so weird" comments like this make me happy with my life
Plenty of girls okay DnD. What you don’t want is a Penny, who wants 100% of Leonard’s attention while everybody is waiting for him to take his combat turn. TBBT made fun of the people it was supposed to represent. Like watching a badly researched SNL skit, that was 12 years long.
I grew up watching TBBT with my grandpa. It's basically the ONLY thing he and I connected over. Now, it's my comfort show; I fall asleep with it playing, if I wanna watch something while I eat, I watch The Big Bang Theory. I have ASD and I like familiarity, which I know is part of it, but I also think the show can be funny at times, and other times it's noise that helps time pass when I need it to.
Correction: This show _isn't_ "rooted in nerd culture". It references nerd culture constantly, to be sure - but it almost never gets the details right, almost never does it in any meaningful way, and the reference itself (however inaccurate, vapid or meaningless) is almost always the """joke""".
The physics and science references are supposed to be accurate as well. However, it isn't that smart. The chessboard was incorrectly set up. Clearly, there isn't a chess player on the set.
-It's interesting how the main characters were much more sexual when the show started. There was an episodes when Raj and Howard recalled having a three-way with a girl at Comic Con, and when Wolowitz tried to cheer up Leonard by buying him time with a hooker. -The best description of Johnny Galeick's Leonard's portrayal of Leonard: He's not a nerd, he's a jock's imitation of a nerd. -Mayim Bialik was the show's MVP for several seasons, especially when Amy Farrah Fowler was blatantly crushing on Penny. -By far the best pairing on the show was Kaley Cuoco and Jim Parsons. A credit to those actors how they managed a cute "His Girl Friday" vibe for a while. -Not even in sitcom land does it makes sense for a shy closet sadist like Bernadette to marry an extroverted confirmed horndog like Wolowitz. -It was criminal how the producers treated Stuart. When he first appeared, he was a confident, clever character who was just as smart as the others but he directed his energies to the arts instead of science. Then they turned him into a pathetic and annoying sad-sack for the rest of the series. -"BBT" and "Mike and Molly" had the same transformation during their runs. They both started out as shows with something of an edgy quality, then when they got popular they got sanded down to standard sitcom tropes, including how every unwed character over 25 must get married or involved with another character.
i mean in most sitcoms, characters become gross exaggerations of themselves by the end. Shows tend to lean into the quirks for comedic effect as that becomes what audiences respond to. Does anyone really do a sitcom for the art of it?
The biggest reason for me is I don’t think people really like the multi-camera laugh track sitcoms anymore. Since the advent of shows like it’s always sunny, the office, parks and rec, Brooklyn 99, and workaholics (underrated), now that format seems antiquated and cheesy.
The problem of Big Bang theory is its writing. Forget about the "problematic portrayal of characters and reinforcements of stereotypes". That being bad is just a consequence of bad writing, but not what makes the writing bad.
Interesting, idk why everyone hates on this show but I think its incredibly funny with its sarcastic humour and jokes. I also wouldn't call it the portrayal of characters, I think its a light hearted tv show. Not ment to reflect on any stereotypes.
something that always bothered me about amy was that her character completely changed. she started out as a literal "girl sheldon"; equal in intelligence and also social ineptitude. when she was introduced she was just as ""apathetic"" (ik sheldon isnt actually apathetic to others thats just the way he tends to come across) and rigid in personality as sheldon, finding romantic relationships just as unnecessary. but over time she became the more "emotional" one so that she could change him to be more "normal". she was still eccentric compared to the other female cast members, but they were all similar in their "normal" reactions in social situations compared to how rigid amy was when she was first introduced. even as a passive viewer who didnt actively follow the show this was noticable to me and always bugged me, since i thought sheldon having someone who was more similar to him and understood his mannerisms would be cool. but instead she had to be the one to Make Him Understand True Love, which meant she had to be "normal".
I'll have to say that both amys have some great things and some that could be better, as to the change in personality, there's a quote: "you are the 5 people you spend the most time with", which would explain her sudden change, at least too a degree, plus, it's a sitcom, why are we trying to make sense of it all?
From the first Amy came on the show she showed her true personality, she explains this so many times if you listen to her but because of the way people treated her she developed the Sheldon shell she wore but when she became friends with a hot girl she could let herself out Especially after Bernadette showed up were you have a hot nerd girl
Also, about the jokes. Whenever they tried to make a reference to any "nerd media", such as comics, TV shows, films, etc, it was clear that they didn't really care or know what they said. Most cases were just reference to something super popular like Star Wars or MCU, and even then it would be just something everyone would knew. And in many times when they tried to reference something less popular, it would be just a pun to the title, or something super obvious from the premise of the show/film. And in the most atrocious cases, they would just make something up. Like the time when Sheldon tries to describe episode of Star Gate SG1, but it's made up and no episode even remotely close to what he described exists
I agree. Community specifically mentioned things like the last season of Scrubs and Avengers Age of Ultron so it felt grounded and specific unlike so many of these shows . It feels like the old joke from Nick shows like Drake and Josh using made up brands (Mocha Cola anyone?)
@@dondamon4669 If a show is supposedly about a culture, you ought to write it about that culture. If you're going to reference nerd culture, then it better be authentic or people will spot it ... unless, of course, you never intended for actual geeks and nerds to watch your show. If that's the case, then this show was never for geeks and nerds, but always as the video contends - a show making fun of us and re-affirming the intended audience's stereotypes of us. In which case, the characters were never intended to be anything other than the bad parodies they are.
As someone who doesn't like _The Big Bang Theory,_ some thoughts on why the backlash: 1) A lot of fans have an "Emperor's New Clothes" vibe just this side of _Rick and Morty_ fans where they think you're stupid if you don't like it. 2) A show can be a big hit these days with 95% not watching it. 3) The worst crime of all, it's just not funny.
Good points except your number 2 is wrong since the big bang theory is pretty much the last show that will ever have mainstream success on TV. It's the last widely popular TV sitcom
@@adamlam9600 Probably the last one is _Seinfeld,_ which on a bad night drew twice the audience _The Big Bang Theory_ did. I looked it up, and its peak season average was just under 19 million, or 6% of the population. The series finale only drew 18 million. I'm not saying that a lot of people didn't like it, but that with a fragmented audience, that is an extremely relative term.
it’s written by anti-yt people who hate YT nerds (you have to spell it YT or else the youtube AI sentry won’t let the comment post). it’s not that they hate nerds. community has a brown autist and he is beloved. they literally are a special class of people who hate yts. period. they are anti-yt.
TBBT wasn't about nerds. It was about physicists who happened to be nerds. The humour to the wider audience is based on this alternative way of looking at the world. Many of the jokes in the early seasons were ones only physicists would get. Towards the end of the run it became a run-of-the-mill sitcom based on crude characterisations, but at the start the characters were ones I could identify with that I had seen in the real world of physics.
this, i really enjoyed the first few episodes or so, it reminded me a lot on "parties" i had with ppl who studied chemistry, physics and so on. we sometimes unironically used a white board to make up a graph/statistic about something daily while drinking, listening to music, laughing and talking.
There were about 3 sciencey dad jokes that physicists have all heard before but there was never a point at which they were writing humour designed for scientists
My wife, who isn't into nerd culture, loves the show. Me, on the other hand,I've been reading comics for 30 years, love Star Wars, play video games, and watches Anime, HATES the Big Bang Theory!
My wife loves the show... I, a comics afficiando (though not a super hero fan) for 60 years, love the show!! It's our go to if the world's insanity is wearing us down...
It's probably because the show is like looking into a mirror for you. It's the same reason why Italians hated the Sopranos; which I am a little bit Italian, and I thought it was AWESOME! Bar none HBO's greatest work ever!
Removing the laugh track from a show designed for a laugh track is always going to sound weird. It's like removing an instrument track from a song designed to include that instrument. It going to sound off.
Yeah, if there was no laugh track, the show would be edited accordingly and it would look like any “modern” comedy show that doesn’t have a laugh track.
What the guy in the video is pointing out is that you can’t even tell what the jokes are meant to be because they’re so bad. The jokes themselves should still hold up stand-alone but they don’t.
Laugh tracks are inherently bad and creepy. The producer is programming your reaction to the show by playing an exaggerated recording of how they want you to react at certain moments. It's just the audio version of a crowd animator.
It is a Chuck Lorre "comedy" that is what he does with his shows, he milks and milks a single trait from the characters until it stops being funny or until the show ends, I watched Dharma and Greg, Two and a half men and those shows suffer from the same problems. The main characters never ever develop their personality they stay the same until the end.
The only thing I didn't like about the last season is Raj never got a "permanent" girlfriend. Leonard, Sheldon, Howard, and even Stuart got a girlfriend and Denise appeared to be a very good one for him. I thought they should have had Raj hook up with Emily.
I think this show is at its best when Sheldon is playing off of either Penny or Leonard, and when it's delivering science-related jokes. The rest of the time it went from hit-or-miss to downright mean-spirited (especially after all the gf's were introduced). Most of the episodes I remember had little to do with the nerd culture aspect, and more with the fish-out-of-water scenarios (an example being The Tangerine Factor or The Pancake Batter Anomaly)
Na I did before ingot the jokes I just didn't think it funny or the show I don't like the show I only watch to see if it was good because my older brother like the show say it was the best I disagree
That's almost every sitcom tho - Friends, How I met your mother- even the ones without laugh tracks have a good portion of jokes dedicated to people just being dicks to each other (which I think is fine as long as the piss-taking is somewhat creative and witty)
I’m not gonna lie, watching The Big Bang Theory made me feel better about being in the autistic spectrum, I related to Sheldon in a way, sure I’m not a genius, but his actions seemed to be exaggerated versions of mine. With all these people complaining about his character makes me feel like I’m not allowed to relate to him. I don’t know man… there was something about Sheldon that just made me come to terms with who I am, after being told there’s something wrong with me for so long, it made me understand that I’m not wrong… I’m just right in a unconventional way Edit: Thanks you all… every time I get a notification and am reminded of my comments existence I cringe at first, but seeing how so many of you are so kind to me… it just makes my day every time
@@lruy360.drivengGen (I'm not gonna try and guess cuz if I get it wrong I'm never hearing the end of it) Being insensitive and shutting down someone genuinely opening up and sharing their thoughts/experience for no reason:
I remember seeing the pilot or first episode at someone’s house, around 2010, I think. He had it on DVD and was watching it with a group of friends. I remember thinking it was beyond cringeworthy and unfunny, and how there’s no way this show would ever get off the ground. I didn’t realize it was such a popular and successful show until years later. Very odd.
My problem were more the story lines than the humor. Penny was clearly not interested physically in Leonard but she married him and settled down with a job she didn't really like but was profitable. She was richer and not attracted to him but she stayed with him? Stuart was constantly put down when he was talented and had his own small business. And finally Raj the biggest romantic ending up alone was a slap in the face.
@@vb2806 which made no sense cause she's never shown any attraction to him. When they first hooked up in S3 was the only time she really seemed into him. And also when other women were interested in him.
Again, this seems like a take from someone who hasn't really watched the show....sure, she wasn't physically attracted to him EARLY ON, but later on as someone else said she slept with him and initiated it often during their relationship on the show. She appeared to be someone who grew to be attracted to him through his intellect and wit and then was physically attracted to him and often this happens in real life. So what's the issue? They seemed to have real chemistry on the show and if it didn't work I'm sure that would be obvious to the many fans who watched the show regularly, again, it seems like a take from someone who perhaps didn't watch much of the show to begin with.
I don't look like a nerd, and I've always loved nerdy and hammy things. This show, in 2007, broke ground for non-nerd people finally delving into the culture. BUT! Said same breaking of ground is the ruinous cause of Disney + and all things that were nerd culture currently being ruined, both by over exposure, and corporate shilling.
I just remember watching an episode where Penny slipped and Sheldon said something "smart" about the mats and I just thought "where was the joke there?"
I think the joke there was that penny obviously wasnt worried about mats but more her arm and sheldon didnt need to say something unhelpful. If you dont get it it's your hang ups
@user-pu2ex8br7p Thank god for that. If we were all born like you then the human race would be set back centuries. "Its better, objectively" - Do you even realise what the words your typing up, mean? You find it funnier so how are you being objective? Comedy is subjective you simpleton. If you want to be objective then let's examine the viewing figures and look at how many people have heard if both comedies. We both know TBBT will win. God, are you the same as Ayoade as in a bit special? Clearly so.
Sheldon has adhesive ducks. There wasn't a joke, it was about Sheldon only thinking of him self. They brought that topic on the finale. It was one of the few times Sheldon was empathetic.
The worst part for me was when Leonard and Penny got married, and gave their vows, and Sheldon had to step in and give his two cents. It felt like it was hammed in there, because he'd become the main character of the show. It was like "Damn, dude, let the couple have their moment."
I think it was wisecrack that talked about how the jokes BBT made felt more like they were beating down than beating up. As an autistic person it hurt when my friends told others (in front of me) that I was basically Sheldon Cooper
It's very true. I've known people who have compared my autistic friends to Sheldon on BBT and I always think "But Sheldon is a sociopathic a-hole and my friends are nice people. Where is the connection?"
As a person with 1 eye, i don't get offended by jokes i constantly see about one-eyed and lazy-eyed people. Quite often, i laugh because i laugh at other jokes, and i don't think i deserve special treatment. Life is hard enough without looking for things to be offended about.
I know that a lot of people don’t like to hear this, but there’s no “rule” that comedy HAS TO “punch up.” It just has to be funny. If every joke in every TV show and movie was just “white men are bad”, or “billionaires are bad”, or whatever, that would get boring pretty quickly.
@@BRockIITWi good for you that you don’t let it bother you. Don’t use your experience to criticize the way other people react to being looked down on. It makes you look like a self centered asshole.
I like it. It's easily the best show to watch on heroin. My girlfriend and I watched like 4 seasons of it in a couple days and I don't remember any of it so I can always re watch and it feels like new
The show is not the problem. It's what it represents. TBBT alongside The MCU opened Geek Culture up to the drive-by fans. Those brought the Wokies who think their opinions matter.
Big Bang Theory is like Friends. If it didn't have a laugh track you wouldn't know it was a comedy. EDIT: Reading down the page, it seems that they used a live audience to provide the laughter. They must have been on drugs.
It's not a joke for or about smart people. It's a joke about what dumb people think smart people are like, for dumb people who think they are smart people.
I always never wanted Penny to become pregnant. I always loved the fact she wanted to peruse more shit for herself and never needed the leverage of kids but then that went right out the window at the end of the season which didn’t feel true to her character. I honestly would have rather Amy ended up pregnant at the end
My biggest issue was the multiple re-use of historic scientific references, such as, "Higgs-Boson", "Richard Feynman", "String Theory", "Soyuz Capsule", "Madame Curie", etc. It's REALLY obvious how little actual "science" means to the show, and that makes it seem hollow and a bit condescending toward It's audience.
I found the big bang theory unwatchable due to most of what you said. The nerds were there to be laughed at, not because of anything substantive, but just mere reference to something that was 'nerdy.' The jokes weren't really funny - or even jokes at all - it was just the actual reference that you were supposed to laugh at, and well, it wasn't actually funny. Then there were instances where if you were a 'nerd' and you knew something about the nerdy activity the cast were engaged in, you'd be looking at it and they'd just be doing it 'wrong' or some other totally unrealistic portrayal of that nerdy activity whereas non-nerds would be laughing at it. At its worst, the people laughing at nerdy activities were laughing because it was both 1) different and 2) something they didn't understand. It really is a dumb show about smart people. The nerds portrayed were also some pretty extreme cases - i've met and hung out with some pretty big weirdos in similar settings but the vast majority of smart, nerdy people weren't like this - and yes, the show at some time risks conflating some pretty extreme behavioral attributes with being nerdy. Its all the more weird because myself and others like young sheldon, when we hated the big bang theory(didn't watch, couldn't watch). Young sheldon is far more watchable and it is an entirely different show.
In middle school, I was pretty much the only one who hated this show and was made fun of for preferring stuff like Simpsons or SpongeBob, my how the tables have turned!
I appreciate the nuanced take. I've seen most episodes of TBBT at least once, but I wouldn't consider myself a fan. Yet when people whine and moan about popular sitcoms, it's almost always lazy crap they read on a listicle somewhere. Oh, "Ross from Friends made mean lesbian jokes. What a homophobe!" Is his wife leaving him for a woman supposed to make it better? I know, what if the writers made his wife straight and leave him for another man, a man who proceeds to raise his son, but kept everything else the same? Despite the ill feelings, Ross is looking pretty good when he gives his own ex-wife away at her second wedding, huh? NPR journalist Linda Holmes spent seemingly hours talking about Hank Azaria and Apu on The Simpsons, but is a defender of TBBT, which peddles in stereotypes. Raj's parents, for example, are not even portrayed by South Asian actors. Again, thanks for the well thought out take.
OK my friend @@10KProductions you've got me :) "Seinfeld" drops from a 9 to a 6 due to its laugh track vs "Curb", which is at least an 8 due to no laugh track. "MASH" is unwatchable.
What people are forgetting when hating on TBBT is that it doesn't need a plot, when the average viewer turns on the TV, they need to easily understand references and laugh at jokes, they don't need to be part of the universe
I personally do love this show, but despite that I have no problem admitting that there is quite a few things that I wish had been handled differently in the long run - especially with those last few seasons. It certainly does feel like when these characters were approaching the next stage of adulthood with serious relationships, marriage, career changes, and all the lovely highs and lows of it… the vibe or tone of the show became something different and yeah the humor did seem to get a lot meaner or if there was actual serious drama then it was never really handled seriously outside of using it for laughs or just a one time thing that never gets mentioned again/basically made pointless. I wouldn’t have been surprised if possibly the drama that was going on with Two and a Half Men and Charlie Sheen and the changes that happened on that show couldn’t have possibly affected Lorre and bled over to Big Bang, but then again that’s just me speculating right there and a lot of people seem to forget that he (Lorre) was balancing both shows and that many of the crew on Big Bang - directors, show runners, producers, writers - also had ties to 2 1/2 Men as well. And one last thing I wanna add is that we will truly never know what was the plan for the future seasons - I think I remember Lorre mentioning in an interview about the plan being possibly 14 seasons? - of the show before Jim announced his desire to move on from Big Bang, and that means that any of those plans either were scrapped or redo to wrap up the series on a more positive and sentimental note along with the longtime goal of Sheldon finally getting his Nobel. Do I love TBBT? Yes Do I think it’s perfect? No, but that doesn’t make me love it any else. I will say that I have seen your video on Young Sheldon and most certainly agree that the minds behind it have seemingly taken note of those hiccups in TBBT to do better and if that’s the case then I applaud for it.
Right? I mean, I tend to be biased on things like this and honestly loved TBBT but I'd like to think I'm perfectly capable of seeing something for it's flaws, I just don't understand these people that say things like the show wasn't funny, or just made fun of nerdy people, etc. Like, I didn't get that from the tone of the show at all really. Someone said before that the show basically punched down (my words) on people considered as nerds. But that's often the social stigma that self-proclaimed nerds often deal with. Noone is more aware of it than those who don't fit in and the thing was their characters would often admit they knew that they weren't popular. Of course they wanted to be popular but knew they wouldn't be and often accepted it for who they were, this is what made them who they were and they embraced it. What's wrong with that? Of course some laughs were had at their expense, and real nerds deal with that ALL THE TIME. The show wasn't mocking them, it was making light of things nerds deal with all the time but why see that as a negative thing? Often comedians tell jokes where they make light and humor of really bad things and scenarios but we enjoy a laugh still, and we go on and understand that THIS IS LIFE. Making a joke of things is how we can laugh and through it understand a bit more about how things come across and are seen even by the person we are laughing at. I feel perfectly qualified to say this being as I was far from the cool kids group in high school, and I know what it feels like to not be popular and be the butt of someone's joke and it sucks. TBBT I think did a great job of showing what it's like to live in and around this stigma constantly and remain funny without attacking the characters though they were often the butt of a joke for their nerdiness/dorkiness or just outright inability to fit in and a lot of it was them making fun of each other which made the humor work, just like close friends who know each other a little too well will often make a joke or two as long as they aren't outright cutting that person apart. That's what made the humor work so well. The show was never outright nasty as far as I could tell, sure the characters were typecast in specific ways with typical stereotypes of nerds....this is what made the humor and made the characters believable and funny. People who just don't get this seem to be looking for excuses to write off TBBT and I honestly wonder if they even watched it really to begin with.
I knew big bang theory was bad but I had zero idea it was this misogynistic. It really just seems like the entire show was written by some dude-bros who went "dude, what if we made a show, were the nerds actually get the women" as if women are just an object to "win" like some sort of trophy. Pretty ironic how the show who's whole humor revolves around men being socially awkward to women, itself fails to understand how real life people work, and especially how women work
@boxylemons7961 Yes, and Women exploit and abuse Men because they set themselves as that trophy. Unless your point is that Women should have sex with any guy who is interested and not have a B**** fit about it. Or a Woman can say No and it is not a big deal that a Man asked. It is hilarious when anti-Christs push Christian values. "Objectification" indicates that there is a segregation between the Flesh and the Spirit, which is straight out of the Jewish religion and Christian religion, Adam and Eve and Sodom and Gomorrah and all of that. So then therefore I don't have to pretend to care about your complaint about "objectification". The good news is that we both have enough food and medical care to complain about a TV show.
As someone who will admit to being a Nickelback fan, well of at least three of their albums, I'm going to agree with you, although I did not know that they were such a perceived negative opinion of the show.
As someone who doesn't hate Nickelback, I still don't feel ashamed to say that. What Big Bang Theory did for autistic, nerds, and Indian people, all groups I'm a part of set understanding of them way back.
The BBT is a dumb person's idea of a smart person's show. It's incredibly basic, no complex themes, characters, or plot, with some science talk peppered in.
I think people like to complain too much. No TV show can be what everyone wants it to be. Everyone wants something different. The criticism mentioned here is mostly about what some people want to see, but didn't get it. "I want more female representation." "I don't like how women are portrayed." "I want better representation of people with autism." Bla bla bla. For me, the show was funny and kept me entertained. I am not fully into nerd culture, and also not a normal person. I am in the middle. I laugh at jokes mocking nerds and jokes mocking dumb people. I laugh at jokes for normal people and the jokes that only nerds would understand. Sheldon has personality traits I have, but to an extreme level, falsely representing me. I don't care. The show was entertaining and fun.
I feel like somewhere around season 4 or 5 I didn't like it as much and by 7 or 8 it was just completely unwatchable to me. I really liked all the science and all of the characters involved in the world of research at a university. I liked when they had equations on their whiteboards and argued about them. I liked when Howard used his ability as an engineer to make new technology for the friends to use, or when they displayed their knowledge in ways that were unconventional, like when Sheldon was the Doppler Effect for Halloween. But there was too much focus on things that were geek things instead of nerd things, like games, superheroes, or movies. I feel like as the show went on, less thought was put into the jokes, and they spent more time at the comic book store and less at the university. The show had tons of potential, and it was lazy show writing that ruined a really good concept.
@@Bigbudd0045 Sure, she and Leonard probably match on that. Doesnt make what Sheldon did as "abuse". He is a person with a very narrow social framework. You get involved with someone like that, you know what you are getting...dont expect people to change just cause you do.
@@shadowmancer99 if you do something shitty and don't realize it its still shitty. you can give them the benefit of the doubt sure, but that doesn't make it okay to treat people badly. just like how using "woke" is a shallow excuse to whine about what you don't like. tell me what woke is without including politics or your personal view dipshit lol.
I think you did a disservice to Penny, her plotline about wanting to be an actress and failing is interesting, she thought she was destined for that but it just never worked out, then she found she was good at sales and decided to work hard for that and 3nded up being successful just not in the way she thought. I feel that's something people should be open to, reinvent themselves.
A program is inevitably going to be formulaic and repetitive if it has over 250 episodes. In the UK, a sitcom has maybe 6-8 episodes a series. Even if it runs for 8 years (and it isn't dictated by commercial interests, so can take a hiatus of a couple of years between series), it's never going to have more than 20-30 episodes.
I am part of the minority that actually views this as a good show. Firstly, I am a fan of the Barenaked Ladies (whom wrote the theme tune in case you didn't know). Secondly, I definitely agree with it being "about smart people, for dumb people". A lot of the physics is pretty rudimentary stuff all things considered, but it is still pretty fun to watch imo. I actually got into physics BECAUSE of this show, and I am now studying Theoretical Physics at Oxford. So, yes, it definitely has its flaws, I just felt like I could at least somewhat relate to the characters. This was the first sitcom I watched all the way through. I do agree that the laugh track carries the show, and you can even see where the characters pause to wait for the laugh track, but I still found it enjoyable just because of the absurdity of the humour.
Honestly this is the first time I've heard that TBBT was hated. I'm quite indifferent to the show but the list of criticisms is more like a typical day on Twitter which automatically makes them insignificant.
So my main criticism of the show, which I absolutely love, is the way that the main four guys are portrayed, I just hate the stereotype of the week socially, awkward, meek and mild nerd, a lot of us are not like that, especially those of us that came from different environments and had to survive different things, That is my only issue with the series to be completely honest. I didn't think about this point until various comments brought it up, but yes, a lot of their references are very main stream nerdy things, I would love to see them reference some thing like Warhammer 40 K, shadow run, the sword of truth series, berserk, or Darwins game, things like that.
there’s nothing wrong with the show representing socially awkward nerds. people like that do exist in real life. if thats not you, thats fine. a show doesn’t need to represent all personality types.
@@teus33bitch a lot of these sitcoms poke fun at personality types - even races, religions, sexes etc. - not just nerds. sure, they'd exaggerate for comedic effect. but why should "socially awkward nerds" be left out? people need to relax and learn how to laugh at themselves from time to time lol
I have nothing to say about the references part or something. But what I find interesting is that as the series go on the characters do develop as persons. They still have their love for comics and the likes but Leonard comes out of his shell more and more did thinks season one Leonard wouldn't. Howard being this pervert becoming a family father who albeit slowly takes responsibility for his family, raj not being able to talk to women who without alcohol, even though he doesn't end up in a relationship overcomes his crippling anxiety and even standing up to Howard and ending the friendship temporarily to become for confidence, and sheldon...uff. I'm ignoring young sheldon for this one. Sheldons biggest problem throughout the series is a) that as a child he didn't learn things other people would learn in childhood and teeny years fir example he can't share becuase he wasn't in Kindergarten and b) he diesnt understand emotions very well and has to guess what someone thinks or really means
I'm a true D&D, Star Trek, cooking with chemistry geek but the social difficulty has always been envy from my friends for success with women I hardly deserve. I mean my jock friends stalked my ex-girlfriends. When I hosted board games more than weekly girls would come sit on the periphery not playing just watching us with their mouths hanging open. Actually dumped my first mad love because my friends had enough of her jealously disrupting our role playing and video games.
Sure, sure....everyone hates The Big Bang Theory........one of the most successful sitcoms in history? This is just a video of why 10K productions hates The Big Bang Theory. Remember folks, opinions are like a$$holes. I find it amazing how much time people spend watching videos of other peoples' opinions. Whatever floats your boat, I guess. Ya know, like The Big Bang Theory floats mine.
Silicon Valley is what Big Bang Theory fans think Big Bang theory is. Also, Frasier did the nerd thing much better, Frasier is just a more cultured and believable Sheldon.
I was bullied HARD growing up as kinda a Leonard type in the 80s and 90s, physically and mentally. By EVERYONE. And then this damn show comes on and suddenly it was "cool" to be a need. Damn all of you for just jumping in with what hurt so many in my time. I hate this show with the passion of a thousand suns.
None of the characters are likable (especially Sheldon), the laugh track, terrible writing, horrible jokes, and the whole show makes fun of 'nerd culture'. Also the people who do like it are almost always unlikable (jocks) too.
It was my comfort food for a couple of first seasons. Then I started noticing, that it is quite repetitive, not really plot-driven, and what's worst, NOT FUNNY. Literally, there may be like a couple of times when I - not laughed - chuckled.
At the beginning was what non nerd people thought nerd people was, like mocking them, later on the did it better, and sheldon became unbareable, selfish and more egocentric, and was like thsi until the very end. And amy deserved better.
I’ve hated the character of Sheldon Cooper ever since I was a kid. I’m Autistic and every time he walks on screen I’m watching every Autistic stereotype I’ve ever heard: no empathy, emotionless, can’t read a room, etc
To address the argument of "it's designed around the laugh track" there are shows that are also designed around laughtracks but are still funny without them. Everybody loves Raymond (live audience but you get the idea) was a show where you knew what the joke was even without the laughter.
Mostly sitcoms were filmed in front of a live audience but by the time we see the episode a laugh track has been added to pad out the audience laughter cause u can’t expect audience who has to sit through multiple takes of the same scene to react the same way every time so they add the laugh track to fool us into believing that the live audience had a bigger reaction to the jokes then they actually did on the day it was filmed
The blade movies came first for sure, but the MCU as we know it didn’t start until Iron Man. You could argue that the MCU started with Howard the Duck in the 80’s but it didn’t really hit mainstream until 2008
I think it's a show for moms who can no longer relate to their kids. They'll watch it and say "my son also doesnt know if he wants a ps4 or xbox. Oh that Sheldon, is a riot"
one of the most glaring early things that showed how it isnt for nerds but making fun about nerds was the time machine episode not only are they actively shaming and making fun of everyone involved in nerdy hobbies and spending time and money on it - they show leonards whole collection that he is about to sell and howard calls it "nerdvana" and its just one box with a few fantasy daggers and figurines truly what a non nerd might find a big amount of collectibles i suppose another thing i didnt understand was the ring episode, where they recite the ring inscription and say "wow we are so nerdy" as if lotr werent the most popular films to come out at their time and win countless awards, and having people do golum impressions for the next 20 years i understand that they did not want to alienate a big part of people that are not into these hobbies for their viewership but its frustrating
I'm a math teacher and science enthusiast with social anxiety and obsesive compulsive disorder, and I loved The Big Bang Theory from beginning to end. People are bitches.
It still feels like they only added her in because people were saying Sheldon was asexual and the show producers didn't like hearing that. There's even an interview with them where they specifically said "no, he just hasn't met the right girl yet" which... is so effing annoying to hear. If you're not sure why that's annoying to hear, just imagine someone saying to a gay person "no, you just haven't met the right woman yet". I'm just saying, it's fine now, but *at the time*, there was zero asexuality on television, and it was just depressing. (And there are people who will say "so what, who cares if you don't have representation on TV?". I can tell you right now that those people literally see themselves in every single TV show, movie, and commercial, so they don't understand.)
@@HarpsiFizzI am sorry if this is going to sound callous but the annoyance felt on the he hasn't met the right girl yet comment seems to be purely due to assumption that he IS asexual and thus is asexuality ia being erased when there have been zero confirmation both within or out of the show. Your example with the gay man doesn't work because we KNOW the man in your example is gay but his sexuality is being denied whereas in Sheldon's case its nothing but pure speculation. Also just because there was zero asexuality on screen at the time seems to be a silly reason to be annoyed when a character who isn't confirmed to be asexual turns out not be asexual. Like I understand what you are trying to say but to hold that against the show even at that time seems a bit...... Bleh
@sammydray5919 "we KNOW the man in your example is gay but his sexuality is being denied whereas in Sheldon's case its nothing but pure speculation" How do you know, though? If the character hasn't expressed any interest in women, all you know is "this character is not interested in women", not "you just haven't met the right one yet". It basically assumes "hetero is the default". And as for being annoyed... ok, then- tell me how I *should* feel in said situation. I'm being serious here. If how I felt was "silly" then that means I should not feel that way, which means there is a correct way to feel. Please tell me what the correct way to feel is. I'm very curious. I'm not trying to shame you, by the way, or say you're bad or bigoted. I'm saying that if you aren't asexual, your experience with things is going to be different. It's just a little messed up, is all. If someone with ASD told me "I'm really annoyed that they said Sheldon doesn't have ASD, because he really displayed the symptoms and it would have been nice to see that on TV", I'd just say "yeah, I can see how that would be disappointing". Not "well you're silly for feeling like that". But eh, Iunno, some people just aren't good at that kinda thing. It's fine.
@@HarpsiFizz Thank you for being civil. I known these topics are sensitive so I appreciate you willing to indulge me like this. Now regarding the response. Thing is that you ARE assuming that about Sheldon. While prior to Amy Sheldon had not shown interest, it was never blatantly stated that he is asexual. If the show had stated that he was asexual and then walked back on it then yeah the criticism would have been 100% fair. But in this case its not a case of "hetero by default" But more like "ambiguous by default" Because we simply weren't given any confirmation as to whether Sheldon was actually not into that stuff or as the showrunner mentioned he simply hadn't found someone that he would be interested in. Sheldon as an asexual and his storyline and further development could have worked wonderfully. I personally would have liked that ngl. God can you imagine exploring that perspective and showing people that side of emotional development instead of just the standard romantic comedy route? Would have been nice. And it would just need a bit of tweaking to Amy as a close friend rather than a romantic partner. Their chemistry could have worked either way. But that is not what the show wanted to do even from the beginning. My point is that Sheldon was never stated to be asexual in the show (or as far as I remember anyways, if I am wrong then I'll take that L) since they kept deliberately vague unfortunately. So the show didn't really walk back on it or lie about it. Or deny asexuality as a concept by saying all you need is the right one or other bs like that. While asexual Sheldon would have worked beautifully, it doesn't seem like that was their intention for him in the first place. The reason I said feeling annoyed at that is "silly" (Honestly should have used a better word that doesn't sound like I am talking down to you, thats my bad) is because the annoyance is regarding something that didn't exist in the show's narrative. Sheldon being asexual was an interpretation, a valid one but at the end of the day its just an interpretation. Its not a case of "Sheldon is definitely not interested in women" But more like "he isn't really interested in anyone else at the moment". And even with Amy the only reason Sheldon even got interested is because of her intellect and how well her personality works for him. Its a bit extreme (and honestly a bit unlikely) but this really could have been a case of finding the right one. Of course I am inexperienced in this regard since I am not asexual but I was just trying to highlight that this really might just be a case of letting an interpretation (no matter how valid) blind you from what really happens in the show. Also if I am completely honest, I genuinely dont think the showrunners were aware enough to realize that they might have been writing Sheldon to be asexual. With how backwards the writing in this show can get, its very much possible that they wrote sheldon to be funny while Leonard and Penny to be the couple and as all shows did at the time, they just kept add more relationships since it was a standard trope at the time. Like it very well could have been a stupid thought process of "Oh right, time to give Sheldon a girlfriend for more wacky shenanigans" Rather than "Nope cant have Asexuals on the show! No sir! "
Well write a show then!? You can't blame people for not being asexual people! Jesus you must be a control freak " why aren't they making shows about things I like"!@@HarpsiFizz
The only thing i hate this show for is how they fucked up leonards character by fawning over penny while penny clearly just chose him cuz there was no other good option around And her ending up as a pharmaceutical sales rep felt so forced It woulda made sense if they went theyre seperate ways in their field(actress and physicist) and leonard found someone who loved him as much as he loved the other character Imstead we had leonard loving penny way more than penny loved him, he didnt deserved that tbh Oh and also i love Young sheldon alot
I think this is a bit unfair.... because she has shown interest in Leonard but she was also scared....she has told him that she wanted to be with him and loved him....I also think it's realistic because alot of women get to a point when they get tired of being hurt by the same guy so they try something new and that ends up being the person they love
It makes sense why it was so popular at the time - the general public is pretty easy to satisfy. Young Sheldon is popular, and to me, it is unwatchable
Every hit show has polarised viewers. Either people love it or hate it. It was the same thing with Seinfeld, Friends, Moder Family, South Park, The Simpsons, Family Guy and the list goes on and on. Because people like different things and hate different things. Theres no need to delve any deeper into it than that.
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Got king of the hill on my mind for the past couple of weeks..
RIP
This probably shouldn't be done anytime soon after this video, but I remain curious regarding how much Sheldon Cooper is worth. There is an actual episode in "The Big Bang Theory" that basically gives you the information you need to do most of the math. That could make for a good quick video to make in between bigger, longer, more complex projects for the channel.
id like to see your opinion on IASIP season 16, kinda like how you went back and uploaded thoughts on bobs burgers season 12 and 13 after your ranking videos were uploaded
What is a sitcom you actually like? Is there any?
"What are you doing, Sheldon?"
"I am playing Super Mario on an emulator"
*laugh track*
I actually think the show has even less respect for their target audience than for the nerds its about.
Like, most of the jokes are basically: "lol, we're too dumb to grasp what they're saying, right guys?"
you do know it IS actually a studio audience laughing...
there are some jokes where only a few people laugh, because you need a high level of education to get some of the jokes.
@@Heidenspross
that is truely a joke that requires high education.
Most of that shit is just referencing things
Listen, kids, all I can say is it made sense at the time. It premiered in like 2008 or so, at the time the video games were a laughing stock for mass media, something for little kids maybe. Shit like that just wasn't for television. Seeing a major television show mentioning Mario, let alone an emulator was a really refreshing experience. Other than people who were into it, no one had an idea there was a thing like an emulator you needed to play f.e. N64 games on PC. Not gonna lie, we were quite excited
@MiroslavMydlo nah it sucked back then to.
my issue is that the nerd cultural references are so surface level. its just the superheros everyone knows even before the mcu, the only games they refrence are halo and world of warcraft, they talk alot of star trek but never talk about anything that isnt kirk, pircard or spock. they arent nerds, they are offensive caricatures of nerds.
The jokes aren’t for nerds. They’re about nerds.
It’s not laughing with nerds. It’s laughing at nurdes that show gives me the vibe that it’s made by people who are upset that nerd culture became prominent
Yea, that's really part of the problem too. "Wow guys, we just referenced (insert superhero/sci-fi thing/media literally everyone knows about even if they never watched it). Aren't we just so QUIRKY?"
This; which I describe, when I want to explain to people why I have hated the small amounts of TBBT I have watched, as "cultural appropriation."
You have described my biggest problem with the show. It's trying to pander to the nerd culture, but it's actively trying to mock it, put it down and paint the nerds as pathetic losers
Most people dunk on it, but Young Sheldon is actually a better show. No laugh track, the comedy sticks the landing most times, and emotional moments are allowed to have impact and depth instead of being undermined by another joke
nobody watched young sheldon so it doesn’t matter how much they try to retcon this anti-yt disaster of hate against gentiles.
just to expand on that, think about it. big bang was the last of shared cultural experiences for americans. after that it fragmented into the internet. the last big sitcom in america will be remembered for being anti-yt and hateful against the yt autistic man. Why do I spell it “yt”? because youtube won’t even let me write this comment if i don’t.
@@speedrunner9907
...wha?
@@speedrunner9907I despise TBBT but Young Sheldon is actually good
who wants that in a sitcom?
My biggest beef with the show was some people asking me why I don't act like Sheldon because I study physics.
What?! So you actually don’t act like Sheldon IRL?
How is you having dumba$$ aquaintences thw shows fault?
Man you brought back some memories. Autistic and very deep into physics/astronomy/quantum physics.
Funny. My wife says I am a mix of Leonard and Sheldon... I am a computer scientist who enjoys watching number theory videos. I also got every scientific joke they put in the show and had to explain it to my wife.
@@darksideblues135Gross.
The part where you removed the laugh track was absolutely haunting
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I mean yeah when you remove the laugh track from a show filmed around a laugh track then it’s probably not gonna sound good
I feel like laugh tracks should always be like an afterthought, like see if it's funny on it's own before overlaying the laugh tracks to ensure it's a solid joke.
@@prl4122that why young Sheldon did a lot better than tbbt and their doing a spin off called Georgie and Mandy and their going back to the laugh track
Wait y'all okay?
A show about the sort of people who think they are smarter than everybody else but it’s really just specialized knowledge
Basically Club Eltingville but Unfunny Version
That's part of the joke. It's self aware. They are very intelligent people but miss some of the more obvious things happening around them.
@@TheNight_Surgeon That's not really a joke, though. It's so obvious and caricatural that it completely misses the point. Sheldon is basically acting like an alien for several seasons in situations that would have happened to him multiple times over in his life.
"WOW, HOW DO WE RESPOND TO EVERY DAY SARCASM, HAHAHA, I HAVE LIVED ALL MY 27 YEARS WITHOUT EVER ENCOUNTERING THAT"
"WOW, OBVIOUS CONVERSATIONAL CUE? NEVER HEARD OF IT. "
"*Hilarity*" ensues. Luckily, we got a laugh track to remind us to laugh because we would have never figured it out.
I hear ya, man. @@MrLuchenkov
@MrLuchenkov - You're being silly. It's a TV show. If you don't like it, dont watch it .
What about the show offends you so strongly ? Not nerdy enough ?
The funniest thing about this show to me, was a woman you couldn’t see, screaming across a house.
What makes it even funnier is the fact that the woman who voiced Mrs. Wolowitz was a dainty, trim, lady who isn’t even pushing 5 feet
😂😂
She passed away sadly
Carol Ann Susi was not dainty nor trim. What the hell are you talking about?! 😄
Ariana Grande is dainty and trim...
- Having said that, mrs.Wolowitz was a good character though.
As someone who could enjoy TBBT but never really LOVED it, what I find so disappointing about the latter half of the show is that it tries to present these characters as growing and maturing, but the humor just gets meaner and meaner until you wonder why any of these people would be willing to sit in the same room as each other. Seriously, it just becomes a group of 30-somethings being horrible to each other with a laugh track, and then suddenly the finale tries to make it seem sentimental.
I know that, from the very beginning, a lot of the creative minds behind the show took inspiration from their own experiences in their youth or people they knew… but if that’s the case then they probably did the same thing as these characters were getting into relationships and eventually seeing what it’s like to be married be possibly using their own experiences with marriage - either their own or that of others - and I’d say that doesn’t reflect to well 😬
Exactly, I can understand sheldon didn’t knew social concepts etc in first half, thats why he came as mean. But in later he grew, he started understanding emotions, sarcasm etc. now he mean comments looks like he means it.
It didn't use a laughter track. Almost everything was filmed before a live audience. Scenes that could not be were shown to a live audience for a reaction. Where did this BS about a laughter track come from? There are literally pictures of the audience at the taping of the show, and some scenes caused such laughter there would be up to five minute interruptions.
And no the humour didn't get meaner. They just got more sarcastic, which is what many of us get as we age. There is nothing wrong with sarcasm. The British and Irish use sarcasm almost as their second language. People so thin-skinned they get offended by sarcasm probably shouldn't go to those countries to visit.
@@jimduffy7199 I don’t know where the bs about a Laugh Track came from either, but I guess that’s just people assuming crap as usual 🤷🏻♀️
Season 1 I even thought “how are any of these people friends” and “why does Penny talk to Sheldon at all since he’s so disrespectful to her”
Smart writers make shows for smart people, dumb writers make shows for dumb people, the subject matter is not that important.
Its not even nerd culture. Its what non nerds think of nerd culture.
This 100%. It is "nerd" comedy for non-nerds. Like "ha ha ha, look a nerd is saying something nerdy".
@@GenericUsername1100 Penny! I finally discovered a cure for cancer! *LAUGH TRACK PLAYS*
That make it even better for me 😂😂
I remember my brother seeing Big Bang Theory on the tv guide and saying " I don't want to be mildly amused I want to laugh." I think he turned on Spongebob instead.
I think that's more to his IQ level. No offence
@@learnfilminaminute9509 No he is actually incredibly smart and super good at math. We are both Spongebob fans but I'm the bigger fan of the two. Also, don't insult my family members.
@@learnfilminaminute9509 Big Bang theory is alright but Spongebob is where it's at.
@@learnfilminaminute9509 And this is why, except for possibly _Rick and Morty,_ _The Big Bang Theory_ has the most annoying fanbase of any American TV show.
@@learnfilminaminute9509Ermmm... You have to have a high IQ to understand The Big Bang Theory's subtle humor - 🤓 👆
1. It constantly calls "nerds" and what they enjoy as "pathetic" and "sad", and yet people think it is celebrating their culture for some reason. Calling something pathetic and sad is not comedy.
2. Majority of the time, the references are either wrong or way too surface level, its like your grandpa knows one word from the video game or a movie and they act cool.
3. It eventually completely shifted towards relationship show, while STILL making mockery of how pathetic these guys are "not getting laid" and "still enjoying child's games and collectibles" as if having a female partner outtrumps everything in life including having multipel PhDs and actual real world scientific advancement.
What is said is that I actually used to enjoy this show and did finish the whole series because of great acting from Jim Parsons, but my god lot of the episodes were cringe or straight up rude with 0 comical success.
Jim Parsons acting was terrible as soon as he and Amy got together properly. He changed the most out of all and became a camp, silly, immature,dumb, childlike wally and became like the Joey of the group
I feel the few times the show hits a good joke, it hits it really well, but all the other times the jokes just suck, and there is basically no in between.
I don't think its pathetic and sad if someone is happy and can hold a job. I have Aspergers and I'm like those nerds in alot of ways, I have hobbies I really enjoy but I have trouble relating to people. People have asked me don't you get lonely and my answer is something alittle bit but my hobbies are what makes my life fun and meaningful, my hobbies are my wife, and for me socializing doesn't come naturally its hard work and its easier to be alone. I know its not healthy to be completely isolated so I occasionally force myself to be in social situations but 2 or 3 friend or two I can play HALO with is all I need, I'm fine with being single and not being the life of the party.
i used to like the show alot during the original few years. it gave me hope to celebrate my nerd part of me... when a friend (of whom is also quite nerdish) liked it a bit at first, had fallen off saying it was "making fun of nerd culture" , I thought he was being too picky, but i started to see that soon enough, didnt finish the last season but it was a show my ex and i would watch a lot of
@@Weathernerd27 I don't think OP means that your life would be pathetic and sad or anything like that, but the way the show is framed means that the show argues that their lives are pathetic. Kind of like propaganda against nerds lol. Bc it doesn't show the deeper aspects of what being a nerd is. Like what you just said here, 'my hobbies are my wife' is a very eloquent phrase and it shows a really interesting perspective. I often think the same way, honestly, but I don't have aspergers or anything. It's just that I find meaning in my goals (which don't tend to be about a specific person but more of a way of life). And I can spend hours at most museums alone lol. However, when I watched the show, I realized that the characters in TBBT don't have any real perspective to offer. It's nothing real, so it feels like anti-nerds made the show.
I’m not much of a comic book nerd myself but what I am is a dnd nerd. And the way these characters in the show interact about dnd is super odd to me. For example, they don’t let their girlfriends join their games because “dnd is not for girls.” In the actual dnd community this couldn’t be further from the truth. Dnd players are always super excited to introduce their girlfriends/boyfriends to their campaigns because it’s something we’re passionate about and want to share it with as many people as possible
Huh I'm not sure I remember what instance you're referring to? I seem to remember instances when the girls themselves weren't interested in dnd, but that was their personal choice. If anything if they were kept out it wasn't ever that "it's not for girl's" from what I remember, it might've been more that it was something specific that those guys felt was specifically their personal time to enjoy and bond over as I remember the girls not being interested in dnd, obviously we know that isn't all girls but just seemed to be that the female characters on the show didn't seem to take much interest in it. I specifically remember the episode where the girls did get into and started playing dnd with Will Wheaton, William Shatner and others and the guys were insanely jealous to not be a part because they got kept out from the girls, maybe as a response to what you were mentioning. Which maybe was the way they answered the "dnd is not for girls" thing you mentioned.
Not a big player, but watching _Community_ cover it makes it something that people would want to play. It seems like the people who made this show hate their characters and think they're weird.
"super excited" "passionate" 😂😂😂 probably the oddest comment I've heard regarding a TV show "what why didn't they want there girlfriends to play DND,it's so weird" comments like this make me happy with my life
@dondamon4669 yeah so happy with your life you're on the Internet tryna put others down🙄
Plenty of girls okay DnD. What you don’t want is a Penny, who wants 100% of Leonard’s attention while everybody is waiting for him to take his combat turn.
TBBT made fun of the people it was supposed to represent. Like watching a badly researched SNL skit, that was 12 years long.
I grew up watching TBBT with my grandpa. It's basically the ONLY thing he and I connected over. Now, it's my comfort show; I fall asleep with it playing, if I wanna watch something while I eat, I watch The Big Bang Theory. I have ASD and I like familiarity, which I know is part of it, but I also think the show can be funny at times, and other times it's noise that helps time pass when I need it to.
Correction: This show _isn't_ "rooted in nerd culture". It references nerd culture constantly, to be sure - but it almost never gets the details right, almost never does it in any meaningful way, and the reference itself (however inaccurate, vapid or meaningless) is almost always the """joke""".
The physics and science references are supposed to be accurate as well. However, it isn't that smart. The chessboard was incorrectly set up. Clearly, there isn't a chess player on the set.
The show became simply "get these nerds to conform" and be a sheep like everyone else.
hilarious comment for the reason you didn't intend.
When I quickly realised it wasn't a show for nerd culture, but one to make fun of nerd culture, I shut it out. Silicone Valley did it much better
-It's interesting how the main characters were much more sexual when the show started. There was an episodes when Raj and Howard recalled having a three-way with a girl at Comic Con, and when Wolowitz tried to cheer up Leonard by buying him time with a hooker.
-The best description of Johnny Galeick's Leonard's portrayal of Leonard: He's not a nerd, he's a jock's imitation of a nerd.
-Mayim Bialik was the show's MVP for several seasons, especially when Amy Farrah Fowler was blatantly crushing on Penny.
-By far the best pairing on the show was Kaley Cuoco and Jim Parsons. A credit to those actors how they managed a cute "His Girl Friday" vibe for a while.
-Not even in sitcom land does it makes sense for a shy closet sadist like Bernadette to marry an extroverted confirmed horndog like Wolowitz.
-It was criminal how the producers treated Stuart. When he first appeared, he was a confident, clever character who was just as smart as the others but he directed his energies to the arts instead of science. Then they turned him into a pathetic and annoying sad-sack for the rest of the series.
-"BBT" and "Mike and Molly" had the same transformation during their runs. They both started out as shows with something of an edgy quality, then when they got popular they got sanded down to standard sitcom tropes, including how every unwed character over 25 must get married or involved with another character.
i mean in most sitcoms, characters become gross exaggerations of themselves by the end. Shows tend to lean into the quirks for comedic effect as that becomes what audiences respond to. Does anyone really do a sitcom for the art of it?
You are right on that one point. The funniest scenes are when it's just Penny and Sheldon. You could do the entire show with just those two.
Good point for Stuart but do you know he actually did it himself?
It was Raj and Leonard that paid for the hooker for Howard after he was dumped by Leslie.
Bojack Horseman from what I've heard is a sitcom for the art of it.
The biggest reason for me is I don’t think people really like the multi-camera laugh track sitcoms anymore. Since the advent of shows like it’s always sunny, the office, parks and rec, Brooklyn 99, and workaholics (underrated), now that format seems antiquated and cheesy.
The problem of Big Bang theory is its writing. Forget about the "problematic portrayal of characters and reinforcements of stereotypes". That being bad is just a consequence of bad writing, but not what makes the writing bad.
Well said
Interesting, idk why everyone hates on this show but I think its incredibly funny with its sarcastic humour and jokes.
I also wouldn't call it the portrayal of characters, I think its a light hearted tv show. Not ment to reflect on any stereotypes.
something that always bothered me about amy was that her character completely changed. she started out as a literal "girl sheldon"; equal in intelligence and also social ineptitude. when she was introduced she was just as ""apathetic"" (ik sheldon isnt actually apathetic to others thats just the way he tends to come across) and rigid in personality as sheldon, finding romantic relationships just as unnecessary. but over time she became the more "emotional" one so that she could change him to be more "normal". she was still eccentric compared to the other female cast members, but they were all similar in their "normal" reactions in social situations compared to how rigid amy was when she was first introduced. even as a passive viewer who didnt actively follow the show this was noticable to me and always bugged me, since i thought sheldon having someone who was more similar to him and understood his mannerisms would be cool. but instead she had to be the one to Make Him Understand True Love, which meant she had to be "normal".
I hated robot Amy. The later amy, or the emocional Amy, is way better and relatable imo
@@gabbyjordaname too
I'll have to say that both amys have some great things and some that could be better, as to the change in personality, there's a quote: "you are the 5 people you spend the most time with", which would explain her sudden change, at least too a degree, plus, it's a sitcom, why are we trying to make sense of it all?
From the first Amy came on the show she showed her true personality, she explains this so many times if you listen to her but because of the way people treated her she developed the Sheldon shell she wore but when she became friends with a hot girl she could let herself out
Especially after Bernadette showed up were you have a hot nerd girl
What you just explained just sounds like character development, so I don't know what you mean.
I believed Sheldon was like a "smart Mr Bean". A child trapped in a man's body.
I can't believe someone crystalized my opinion so concisely and perfectly in so few words
Also, about the jokes. Whenever they tried to make a reference to any "nerd media", such as comics, TV shows, films, etc, it was clear that they didn't really care or know what they said. Most cases were just reference to something super popular like Star Wars or MCU, and even then it would be just something everyone would knew. And in many times when they tried to reference something less popular, it would be just a pun to the title, or something super obvious from the premise of the show/film. And in the most atrocious cases, they would just make something up. Like the time when Sheldon tries to describe episode of Star Gate SG1, but it's made up and no episode even remotely close to what he described exists
I agree. Community specifically mentioned things like the last season of Scrubs and Avengers Age of Ultron so it felt grounded and specific unlike so many of these shows . It feels like the old joke from Nick shows like Drake and Josh using made up brands (Mocha Cola anyone?)
What does that matter?
@@dondamon4669 If a show is supposedly about a culture, you ought to write it about that culture. If you're going to reference nerd culture, then it better be authentic or people will spot it ... unless, of course, you never intended for actual geeks and nerds to watch your show. If that's the case, then this show was never for geeks and nerds, but always as the video contends - a show making fun of us and re-affirming the intended audience's stereotypes of us. In which case, the characters were never intended to be anything other than the bad parodies they are.
@@jordansweet8054I've said it before. Community was a show for nerds. TBBT was about 'nerds'.
@@alexmurphy7525Absolutely right
As someone who doesn't like _The Big Bang Theory,_ some thoughts on why the backlash:
1) A lot of fans have an "Emperor's New Clothes" vibe just this side of _Rick and Morty_ fans where they think you're stupid if you don't like it.
2) A show can be a big hit these days with 95% not watching it.
3) The worst crime of all, it's just not funny.
Good points except your number 2 is wrong since the big bang theory is pretty much the last show that will ever have mainstream success on TV. It's the last widely popular TV sitcom
@@adamlam9600 Probably the last one is _Seinfeld,_ which on a bad night drew twice the audience _The Big Bang Theory_ did. I looked it up, and its peak season average was just under 19 million, or 6% of the population. The series finale only drew 18 million. I'm not saying that a lot of people didn't like it, but that with a fragmented audience, that is an extremely relative term.
It was written by people who had never even encountered actual nerds a day in their lives.
it’s written by anti-yt people who hate YT nerds (you have to spell it YT or else the youtube AI sentry won’t let the comment post).
it’s not that they hate nerds. community has a brown autist and he is beloved.
they literally are a special class of people who hate yts. period. they are anti-yt.
I hate the laugh track/ studio audience , I can't vibe with forced laughing at bad jokes...even in the real world.
Penny's character doesn't even have a last name. It is a bad caricature of Nerd culture yet it brought 'Nerd Culture' to media's attention.
Penny teller
Well she's a penny a dozen so there's no need for a last name. Strippers don't have last names either.
@@peanutm9346 The last name was Teller? How about that.
@@bonchidude No. Penny's mum in the show is played by Katy Sagal who also played Gemma Teller in Sons Of Anarchy
TBBT wasn't about nerds. It was about physicists who happened to be nerds. The humour to the wider audience is based on this alternative way of looking at the world. Many of the jokes in the early seasons were ones only physicists would get. Towards the end of the run it became a run-of-the-mill sitcom based on crude characterisations, but at the start the characters were ones I could identify with that I had seen in the real world of physics.
this, i really enjoyed the first few episodes or so, it reminded me a lot on "parties" i had with ppl who studied chemistry, physics and so on. we sometimes unironically used a white board to make up a graph/statistic about something daily while drinking, listening to music, laughing and talking.
There were about 3 sciencey dad jokes that physicists have all heard before but there was never a point at which they were writing humour designed for scientists
@@maximilianstrasse3904 Actually, I think I somehow replied to the wrong comment
@@leikfroakies I hope so :D
hahahahaha, no. Fucking Sheldon was emulating N64 games in fucking season 1, physics my ass. Not even the intro is that clever or difficult to get it.
My wife, who isn't into nerd culture, loves the show.
Me, on the other hand,I've been reading comics for 30 years, love Star Wars, play video games, and watches Anime, HATES the Big Bang Theory!
My wife loves the show... I, a comics afficiando (though not a super hero fan) for 60 years, love the show!! It's our go to if the world's insanity is wearing us down...
It's probably because the show is like looking into a mirror for you. It's the same reason why Italians hated the Sopranos; which I am a little bit Italian, and I thought it was AWESOME! Bar none HBO's greatest work ever!
You ever read The Eltingville Club?
From your lips to God's ears brother. It's as funny as cancer.
@@Nick-up5wvI thought people wanted relatability?
This show is proof that mainstream popularity and high ratings don't equate to quality.
Removing the laugh track from a show designed for a laugh track is always going to sound weird. It's like removing an instrument track from a song designed to include that instrument. It going to sound off.
Yeah, if there was no laugh track, the show would be edited accordingly and it would look like any “modern” comedy show that doesn’t have a laugh track.
Everybody loves Raymond and Two and a half men still work without audience reactions or inserted laughter.
What the guy in the video is pointing out is that you can’t even tell what the jokes are meant to be because they’re so bad. The jokes themselves should still hold up stand-alone but they don’t.
I usually zone out of laugh tracks when watching a show, but TBBT feels too invasive going off every one-liner interaction.
Laugh tracks are inherently bad and creepy. The producer is programming your reaction to the show by playing an exaggerated recording of how they want you to react at certain moments. It's just the audio version of a crowd animator.
It is a Chuck Lorre "comedy" that is what he does with his shows, he milks and milks a single trait from the characters until it stops being funny or until the show ends, I watched Dharma and Greg, Two and a half men and those shows suffer from the same problems. The main characters never ever develop their personality they stay the same until the end.
Dharma and Greg sucked ass, how'd you make it past one episode?
What about mom?
@@johnindigo5477 what ABOUT mom?
The characters in "Seinfeld" stayed the same throughout.
Massively successful show.
@@dhenderson1810 they had flat character arcs, but we're compelling characters
The earlier seasons were watchable at best.
Later seasons were so much more awful
Yeah as soon as they all got girlfriends it wasn't fun anymore.
@@Goatlikeitornotyea the show was never the best and it had its problem early on. But it became so much worse when amy and bernadette came on
@@PogFrogy1210 And both of those are vivisectors. They were evil people. They were the worst. on the show for that.
The only thing I didn't like about the last season is Raj never got a "permanent" girlfriend. Leonard, Sheldon, Howard, and even Stuart got a girlfriend and Denise appeared to be a very good one for him. I thought they should have had Raj hook up with Emily.
No with Leonard's mom would have been better
Raj doesn't need a permanent girlfriend. Some people can be happy without finding someone, and many people never find someone who is right for them.
@@peanutm9346Raj deserve a good sweet girl ..
Yeah it's really annoying that they did him dirty
He's married to a former miss India. Chill! It's just TV, it's not your life, dude!
I think this show is at its best when Sheldon is playing off of either Penny or Leonard, and when it's delivering science-related jokes. The rest of the time it went from hit-or-miss to downright mean-spirited (especially after all the gf's were introduced). Most of the episodes I remember had little to do with the nerd culture aspect, and more with the fish-out-of-water scenarios (an example being The Tangerine Factor or The Pancake Batter Anomaly)
I remember when they tried to make Howard sexually harassing Penny a victim cause he was "lonely" I actually defended her checking him
raj constantly simping on his best friend wife you forgot to add that.
Raj was a basket of nerd and racial stereotypes throughout the show's run.
@@ClarenceEwing nah
If you take away the laugh track, it's just self involved people being mean to each other.
Na I did before ingot the jokes I just didn't think it funny or the show I don't like the show I only watch to see if it was good because my older brother like the show say it was the best I disagree
While I agree, there wasn’t a laugh track. The show was shot in front of a live audience
@@lunartunes6416Studio audience with a post filming laugh track. The show was not aired live.
That's almost every sitcom tho - Friends, How I met your mother- even the ones without laugh tracks have a good portion of jokes dedicated to people just being dicks to each other (which I think is fine as long as the piss-taking is somewhat creative and witty)
So, I didn't miss anything by not watching?;)
I’m not gonna lie, watching The Big Bang Theory made me feel better about being in the autistic spectrum, I related to Sheldon in a way, sure I’m not a genius, but his actions seemed to be exaggerated versions of mine. With all these people complaining about his character makes me feel like I’m not allowed to relate to him. I don’t know man… there was something about Sheldon that just made me come to terms with who I am, after being told there’s something wrong with me for so long, it made me understand that I’m not wrong… I’m just right in a unconventional way
Edit: Thanks you all… every time I get a notification and am reminded of my comments existence I cringe at first, but seeing how so many of you are so kind to me… it just makes my day every time
😭😭😭 yesssss
If he made you feel seen then forget what others are saying
gen z faking illnesses:
@@lruy360.drivengGen (I'm not gonna try and guess cuz if I get it wrong I'm never hearing the end of it) Being insensitive and shutting down someone genuinely opening up and sharing their thoughts/experience for no reason:
@@FlameonoodleMost accepting Gen Z joke taker:
The sad part is.... People actually dissecting this as if it were real life, UGH, NERDS themselves
I remember seeing the pilot or first episode at someone’s house, around 2010, I think. He had it on DVD and was watching it with a group of friends. I remember thinking it was beyond cringeworthy and unfunny, and how there’s no way this show would ever get off the ground. I didn’t realize it was such a popular and successful show until years later. Very odd.
My problem were more the story lines than the humor. Penny was clearly not interested physically in Leonard but she married him and settled down with a job she didn't really like but was profitable. She was richer and not attracted to him but she stayed with him? Stuart was constantly put down when he was talented and had his own small business. And finally Raj the biggest romantic ending up alone was a slap in the face.
she was attracted to him though?
@@julliantorres6621 was she? She constantly made negative remarks about his looks.
@@cobrakaier238and she constantly slept with him. Even initiated it.
@@vb2806 which made no sense cause she's never shown any attraction to him. When they first hooked up in S3 was the only time she really seemed into him. And also when other women were interested in him.
Again, this seems like a take from someone who hasn't really watched the show....sure, she wasn't physically attracted to him EARLY ON, but later on as someone else said she slept with him and initiated it often during their relationship on the show. She appeared to be someone who grew to be attracted to him through his intellect and wit and then was physically attracted to him and often this happens in real life. So what's the issue? They seemed to have real chemistry on the show and if it didn't work I'm sure that would be obvious to the many fans who watched the show regularly, again, it seems like a take from someone who perhaps didn't watch much of the show to begin with.
I don't look like a nerd, and I've always loved nerdy and hammy things. This show, in 2007, broke ground for non-nerd people finally delving into the culture. BUT! Said same breaking of ground is the ruinous cause of Disney + and all things that were nerd culture currently being ruined, both by over exposure, and corporate shilling.
Yap yap yap
I just remember watching an episode where Penny slipped and Sheldon said something "smart" about the mats and I just thought "where was the joke there?"
I think the joke there was that penny obviously wasnt worried about mats but more her arm and sheldon didnt need to say something unhelpful. If you dont get it it's your hang ups
Hardly fair to blame the programme for you not having a sense of humour.
@user-pu2ex8br7p The IT Crowd?!! If that's your idea of humour then I'm sorry.
@user-pu2ex8br7p Thank god for that. If we were all born like you then the human race would be set back centuries. "Its better, objectively" - Do you even realise what the words your typing up, mean? You find it funnier so how are you being objective? Comedy is subjective you simpleton. If you want to be objective then let's examine the viewing figures and look at how many people have heard if both comedies. We both know TBBT will win. God, are you the same as Ayoade as in a bit special? Clearly so.
Sheldon has adhesive ducks. There wasn't a joke, it was about Sheldon only thinking of him self. They brought that topic on the finale. It was one of the few times Sheldon was empathetic.
My problem with it was always a "nerds are funny and awkward" which was a trope in the first place as you said opening arguement
The worst part for me was when Leonard and Penny got married, and gave their vows, and Sheldon had to step in and give his two cents. It felt like it was hammed in there, because he'd become the main character of the show. It was like "Damn, dude, let the couple have their moment."
I think it was wisecrack that talked about how the jokes BBT made felt more like they were beating down than beating up.
As an autistic person it hurt when my friends told others (in front of me) that I was basically Sheldon Cooper
It's very true. I've known people who have compared my autistic friends to Sheldon on BBT and I always think "But Sheldon is a sociopathic a-hole and my friends are nice people. Where is the connection?"
As a person with 1 eye, i don't get offended by jokes i constantly see about one-eyed and lazy-eyed people. Quite often, i laugh because i laugh at other jokes, and i don't think i deserve special treatment. Life is hard enough without looking for things to be offended about.
my less shitty brother does that all the time and it pisses me off.
I know that a lot of people don’t like to hear this, but there’s no “rule” that comedy HAS TO “punch up.” It just has to be funny. If every joke in every TV show and movie was just “white men are bad”, or “billionaires are bad”, or whatever, that would get boring pretty quickly.
@@BRockIITWi good for you that you don’t let it bother you. Don’t use your experience to criticize the way other people react to being looked down on. It makes you look like a self centered asshole.
Am I in some sort of minority here? I loved “The Big Bang Theory” and still catch a rerun now and then.
i love the fact i get most of the more obscure references
I like it. It's easily the best show to watch on heroin. My girlfriend and I watched like 4 seasons of it in a couple days and I don't remember any of it so I can always re watch and it feels like new
@@rinkokonoe8644WHAT
You're Not a Minority actually my friend. You're the Shows target audience.
BASED
The show is not the problem. It's what it represents.
TBBT alongside The MCU opened Geek Culture up to the drive-by fans. Those brought the Wokies who think their opinions matter.
Big Bang Theory is like Friends.
If it didn't have a laugh track you wouldn't know it was a comedy.
EDIT: Reading down the page, it seems that they used a live audience to provide the laughter.
They must have been on drugs.
Yes, a "Friends" knock-off for the late 2000s - early 2010s, nothing more.
It's not a joke for or about smart people.
It's a joke about what dumb people think smart people are like, for dumb people who think they are smart people.
I always never wanted Penny to become pregnant. I always loved the fact she wanted to peruse more shit for herself and never needed the leverage of kids but then that went right out the window at the end of the season which didn’t feel true to her character. I honestly would have rather Amy ended up pregnant at the end
Imagine splitting Steve Urkle into 4 people. There you go, that’s, that’s it.
Urkle was charming and did not enrage me, as much. Why did that kid always mooch cheese?
Massive oversimplification. And not true.
BBT singlehandedly ended the multi-cam sitcom
RIP
Good.
Yeah
It went from the quirky nerd POV to the "bullying the nerd" POV when the show became about their relationships with women. It was insulting.
My biggest issue was the multiple re-use of historic scientific references, such as, "Higgs-Boson", "Richard Feynman", "String Theory", "Soyuz Capsule", "Madame Curie", etc.
It's REALLY obvious how little actual "science" means to the show, and that makes it seem hollow and a bit condescending toward It's audience.
This was never a show about nerd/geek culture. It was Hollyweird's view of us, which they made abundantly clear, i.e. they hate us.
I found the big bang theory unwatchable due to most of what you said. The nerds were there to be laughed at, not because of anything substantive, but just mere reference to something that was 'nerdy.' The jokes weren't really funny - or even jokes at all - it was just the actual reference that you were supposed to laugh at, and well, it wasn't actually funny. Then there were instances where if you were a 'nerd' and you knew something about the nerdy activity the cast were engaged in, you'd be looking at it and they'd just be doing it 'wrong' or some other totally unrealistic portrayal of that nerdy activity whereas non-nerds would be laughing at it. At its worst, the people laughing at nerdy activities were laughing because it was both 1) different and 2) something they didn't understand.
It really is a dumb show about smart people.
The nerds portrayed were also some pretty extreme cases - i've met and hung out with some pretty big weirdos in similar settings but the vast majority of smart, nerdy people weren't like this - and yes, the show at some time risks conflating some pretty extreme behavioral attributes with being nerdy.
Its all the more weird because myself and others like young sheldon, when we hated the big bang theory(didn't watch, couldn't watch). Young sheldon is far more watchable and it is an entirely different show.
In middle school, I was pretty much the only one who hated this show and was made fun of for preferring stuff like Simpsons or SpongeBob, my how the tables have turned!
Big bang theory is unironically the Nerd equivalent of a Minstrel show.
I didn't even know this show was hated, but I'm also not terminally online lol
I appreciate the nuanced take. I've seen most episodes of TBBT at least once, but I wouldn't consider myself a fan. Yet when people whine and moan about popular sitcoms, it's almost always lazy crap they read on a listicle somewhere.
Oh, "Ross from Friends made mean lesbian jokes. What a homophobe!" Is his wife leaving him for a woman supposed to make it better? I know, what if the writers made his wife straight and leave him for another man, a man who proceeds to raise his son, but kept everything else the same? Despite the ill feelings, Ross is looking pretty good when he gives his own ex-wife away at her second wedding, huh?
NPR journalist Linda Holmes spent seemingly hours talking about Hank Azaria and Apu on The Simpsons, but is a defender of TBBT, which peddles in stereotypes. Raj's parents, for example, are not even portrayed by South Asian actors.
Again, thanks for the well thought out take.
No you’re supposed to be mean to me. That’s how TH-cam works
The show's quality is what we used to call "a rough draft" in high school
1 - Laugh track
2 - One knows every line and situation, before the actors speak
But if there wasn’t a laugh track how would I know when to laugh?
OK my friend @@10KProductions you've got me :)
"Seinfeld" drops from a 9 to a 6 due to its laugh track vs "Curb", which is at least an 8 due to no laugh track.
"MASH" is unwatchable.
It tried to have it both ways.
Be a show for nerds and a show about nerds. It failed on both counts.
What people are forgetting when hating on TBBT is that it doesn't need a plot, when the average viewer turns on the TV, they need to easily understand references and laugh at jokes, they don't need to be part of the universe
I personally do love this show, but despite that I have no problem admitting that there is quite a few things that I wish had been handled differently in the long run - especially with those last few seasons.
It certainly does feel like when these characters were approaching the next stage of adulthood with serious relationships, marriage, career changes, and all the lovely highs and lows of it… the vibe or tone of the show became something different and yeah the humor did seem to get a lot meaner or if there was actual serious drama then it was never really handled seriously outside of using it for laughs or just a one time thing that never gets mentioned again/basically made pointless.
I wouldn’t have been surprised if possibly the drama that was going on with Two and a Half Men and Charlie Sheen and the changes that happened on that show couldn’t have possibly affected Lorre and bled over to Big Bang, but then again that’s just me speculating right there and a lot of people seem to forget that he (Lorre) was balancing both shows and that many of the crew on Big Bang - directors, show runners, producers, writers - also had ties to 2 1/2 Men as well.
And one last thing I wanna add is that we will truly never know what was the plan for the future seasons - I think I remember Lorre mentioning in an interview about the plan being possibly 14 seasons? - of the show before Jim announced his desire to move on from Big Bang, and that means that any of those plans either were scrapped or redo to wrap up the series on a more positive and sentimental note along with the longtime goal of Sheldon finally getting his Nobel.
Do I love TBBT?
Yes
Do I think it’s perfect?
No, but that doesn’t make me love it any else.
I will say that I have seen your video on Young Sheldon and most certainly agree that the minds behind it have seemingly taken note of those hiccups in TBBT to do better and if that’s the case then I applaud for it.
Right? I mean, I tend to be biased on things like this and honestly loved TBBT but I'd like to think I'm perfectly capable of seeing something for it's flaws, I just don't understand these people that say things like the show wasn't funny, or just made fun of nerdy people, etc. Like, I didn't get that from the tone of the show at all really. Someone said before that the show basically punched down (my words) on people considered as nerds. But that's often the social stigma that self-proclaimed nerds often deal with. Noone is more aware of it than those who don't fit in and the thing was their characters would often admit they knew that they weren't popular. Of course they wanted to be popular but knew they wouldn't be and often accepted it for who they were, this is what made them who they were and they embraced it. What's wrong with that? Of course some laughs were had at their expense, and real nerds deal with that ALL THE TIME. The show wasn't mocking them, it was making light of things nerds deal with all the time but why see that as a negative thing? Often comedians tell jokes where they make light and humor of really bad things and scenarios but we enjoy a laugh still, and we go on and understand that THIS IS LIFE. Making a joke of things is how we can laugh and through it understand a bit more about how things come across and are seen even by the person we are laughing at. I feel perfectly qualified to say this being as I was far from the cool kids group in high school, and I know what it feels like to not be popular and be the butt of someone's joke and it sucks. TBBT I think did a great job of showing what it's like to live in and around this stigma constantly and remain funny without attacking the characters though they were often the butt of a joke for their nerdiness/dorkiness or just outright inability to fit in and a lot of it was them making fun of each other which made the humor work, just like close friends who know each other a little too well will often make a joke or two as long as they aren't outright cutting that person apart. That's what made the humor work so well. The show was never outright nasty as far as I could tell, sure the characters were typecast in specific ways with typical stereotypes of nerds....this is what made the humor and made the characters believable and funny. People who just don't get this seem to be looking for excuses to write off TBBT and I honestly wonder if they even watched it really to begin with.
@@mattfield3371 when aren’t people looking for excuses nowadays to just wait quickly write off anything and everything?
I knew big bang theory was bad but I had zero idea it was this misogynistic. It really just seems like the entire show was written by some dude-bros who went "dude, what if we made a show, were the nerds actually get the women" as if women are just an object to "win" like some sort of trophy. Pretty ironic how the show who's whole humor revolves around men being socially awkward to women, itself fails to understand how real life people work, and especially how women work
@boxylemons7961 Yes, and Women exploit and abuse Men because they set themselves as that trophy. Unless your point is that Women should have sex with any guy who is interested and not have a B**** fit about it. Or a Woman can say No and it is not a big deal that a Man asked.
It is hilarious when anti-Christs push Christian values. "Objectification" indicates that there is a segregation between the Flesh and the Spirit, which is straight out of the Jewish religion and Christian religion, Adam and Eve and Sodom and Gomorrah and all of that. So then therefore I don't have to pretend to care about your complaint about "objectification".
The good news is that we both have enough food and medical care to complain about a TV show.
BBT is basically the Nickelback of sitcoms. It's popular to hate but secretly many people pretending to hate it actually love it.
As someone who will admit to being a Nickelback fan, well of at least three of their albums, I'm going to agree with you, although I did not know that they were such a perceived negative opinion of the show.
As someone who doesn't hate Nickelback, I still don't feel ashamed to say that. What Big Bang Theory did for autistic, nerds, and Indian people, all groups I'm a part of set understanding of them way back.
That's a pretty good analogy. I have thought for years that it's the McDonald's of sitcoms.
The BBT is a dumb person's idea of a smart person's show. It's incredibly basic, no complex themes, characters, or plot, with some science talk peppered in.
I think people like to complain too much. No TV show can be what everyone wants it to be. Everyone wants something different. The criticism mentioned here is mostly about what some people want to see, but didn't get it. "I want more female representation." "I don't like how women are portrayed." "I want better representation of people with autism." Bla bla bla. For me, the show was funny and kept me entertained. I am not fully into nerd culture, and also not a normal person. I am in the middle. I laugh at jokes mocking nerds and jokes mocking dumb people. I laugh at jokes for normal people and the jokes that only nerds would understand. Sheldon has personality traits I have, but to an extreme level, falsely representing me. I don't care. The show was entertaining and fun.
I feel like somewhere around season 4 or 5 I didn't like it as much and by 7 or 8 it was just completely unwatchable to me. I really liked all the science and all of the characters involved in the world of research at a university. I liked when they had equations on their whiteboards and argued about them. I liked when Howard used his ability as an engineer to make new technology for the friends to use, or when they displayed their knowledge in ways that were unconventional, like when Sheldon was the Doppler Effect for Halloween. But there was too much focus on things that were geek things instead of nerd things, like games, superheroes, or movies. I feel like as the show went on, less thought was put into the jokes, and they spent more time at the comic book store and less at the university. The show had tons of potential, and it was lazy show writing that ruined a really good concept.
I mean, I didn’t know it was widely disliked, but I can’t stand it. “Smart people acting like idiots!” Is the one line pitch for the show.
Don't forget the emotional abuse Sheldon did against Amy .... playing off just for "laughs"
Ya...good times! Seriously, you knew who he was, and at first Amy seemed to be just the same. Dont go all woke on it.
@@shadowmancer99 You can argue that Amy changed the most from her beginning to the end.
@@Bigbudd0045 Sure, she and Leonard probably match on that. Doesnt make what Sheldon did as "abuse". He is a person with a very narrow social framework. You get involved with someone like that, you know what you are getting...dont expect people to change just cause you do.
In a show with Sheldon in it, I would say Amy is the most irritating character I have ever seen.
@@shadowmancer99 if you do something shitty and don't realize it its still shitty. you can give them the benefit of the doubt sure, but that doesn't make it okay to treat people badly. just like how using "woke" is a shallow excuse to whine about what you don't like. tell me what woke is without including politics or your personal view dipshit lol.
I think you did a disservice to Penny, her plotline about wanting to be an actress and failing is interesting, she thought she was destined for that but it just never worked out, then she found she was good at sales and decided to work hard for that and 3nded up being successful just not in the way she thought. I feel that's something people should be open to, reinvent themselves.
Sitcoms to me are just escapism if it can make me laugh I'm good.
A program is inevitably going to be formulaic and repetitive if it has over 250 episodes. In the UK, a sitcom has maybe 6-8 episodes a series. Even if it runs for 8 years (and it isn't dictated by commercial interests, so can take a hiatus of a couple of years between series), it's never going to have more than 20-30 episodes.
I am part of the minority that actually views this as a good show. Firstly, I am a fan of the Barenaked Ladies (whom wrote the theme tune in case you didn't know). Secondly, I definitely agree with it being "about smart people, for dumb people". A lot of the physics is pretty rudimentary stuff all things considered, but it is still pretty fun to watch imo. I actually got into physics BECAUSE of this show, and I am now studying Theoretical Physics at Oxford. So, yes, it definitely has its flaws, I just felt like I could at least somewhat relate to the characters. This was the first sitcom I watched all the way through. I do agree that the laugh track carries the show, and you can even see where the characters pause to wait for the laugh track, but I still found it enjoyable just because of the absurdity of the humour.
Awards don't always mean anything in terms of quality. It's always sunny has barely been acknowledged by the Emmys, let alone, given an award.
I don’t hate it. It just wasn’t funny.
I never understood it, but I’ve never been main stream.
Honestly this is the first time I've heard that TBBT was hated. I'm quite indifferent to the show but the list of criticisms is more like a typical day on Twitter which automatically makes them insignificant.
So my main criticism of the show, which I absolutely love, is the way that the main four guys are portrayed, I just hate the stereotype of the week socially, awkward, meek and mild nerd, a lot of us are not like that, especially those of us that came from different environments and had to survive different things, That is my only issue with the series to be completely honest. I didn't think about this point until various comments brought it up, but yes, a lot of their references are very main stream nerdy things, I would love to see them reference some thing like Warhammer 40 K, shadow run, the sword of truth series, berserk, or Darwins game, things like that.
there’s nothing wrong with the show representing socially awkward nerds. people like that do exist in real life. if thats not you, thats fine. a show doesn’t need to represent all personality types.
@@mikeedo5951it doesn't "represent" them. It makes fun of them for laughs
@@teus33bitch a lot of these sitcoms poke fun at personality types - even races, religions, sexes etc. - not just nerds. sure, they'd exaggerate for comedic effect. but why should "socially awkward nerds" be left out? people need to relax and learn how to laugh at themselves from time to time lol
I have nothing to say about the references part or something. But what I find interesting is that as the series go on the characters do develop as persons. They still have their love for comics and the likes but Leonard comes out of his shell more and more did thinks season one Leonard wouldn't. Howard being this pervert becoming a family father who albeit slowly takes responsibility for his family, raj not being able to talk to women who without alcohol, even though he doesn't end up in a relationship overcomes his crippling anxiety and even standing up to Howard and ending the friendship temporarily to become for confidence, and sheldon...uff. I'm ignoring young sheldon for this one. Sheldons biggest problem throughout the series is a) that as a child he didn't learn things other people would learn in childhood and teeny years fir example he can't share becuase he wasn't in Kindergarten and b) he diesnt understand emotions very well and has to guess what someone thinks or really means
I'm a true D&D, Star Trek, cooking with chemistry geek but the social difficulty has always been envy from my friends for success with women I hardly deserve. I mean my jock friends stalked my ex-girlfriends. When I hosted board games more than weekly girls would come sit on the periphery not playing just watching us with their mouths hanging open. Actually dumped my first mad love because my friends had enough of her jealously disrupting our role playing and video games.
Watching The Big Bang Theory is literally torture if you just have half a mind.
Sure, sure....everyone hates The Big Bang Theory........one of the most successful sitcoms in history? This is just a video of why 10K productions hates The Big Bang Theory. Remember folks, opinions are like a$$holes. I find it amazing how much time people spend watching videos of other peoples' opinions. Whatever floats your boat, I guess. Ya know, like The Big Bang Theory floats mine.
Silicon Valley is what Big Bang Theory fans think Big Bang theory is. Also, Frasier did the nerd thing much better, Frasier is just a more cultured and believable Sheldon.
I was bullied HARD growing up as kinda a Leonard type in the 80s and 90s, physically and mentally. By EVERYONE. And then this damn show comes on and suddenly it was "cool" to be a need. Damn all of you for just jumping in with what hurt so many in my time. I hate this show with the passion of a thousand suns.
None of the characters are likable (especially Sheldon), the laugh track, terrible writing, horrible jokes, and the whole show makes fun of 'nerd culture'. Also the people who do like it are almost always unlikable (jocks) too.
It was my comfort food for a couple of first seasons. Then I started noticing, that it is quite repetitive, not really plot-driven, and what's worst, NOT FUNNY. Literally, there may be like a couple of times when I - not laughed - chuckled.
At the beginning was what non nerd people thought nerd people was, like mocking them, later on the did it better, and sheldon became unbareable, selfish and more egocentric, and was like thsi until the very end.
And amy deserved better.
I’ve hated the character of Sheldon Cooper ever since I was a kid. I’m Autistic and every time he walks on screen I’m watching every Autistic stereotype I’ve ever heard: no empathy, emotionless, can’t read a room, etc
To address the argument of "it's designed around the laugh track" there are shows that are also designed around laughtracks but are still funny without them. Everybody loves Raymond (live audience but you get the idea) was a show where you knew what the joke was even without the laughter.
Mostly sitcoms were filmed in front of a live audience but by the time we see the episode a laugh track has been added to pad out the audience laughter cause u can’t expect audience who has to sit through multiple takes of the same scene to react the same way every time so they add the laugh track to fool us into believing that the live audience had a bigger reaction to the jokes then they actually did on the day it was filmed
Fun fact iron-man didn't kick off the mcu it was blade. Marvel almost went bankrupt.
The blade movies came first for sure, but the MCU as we know it didn’t start until Iron Man. You could argue that the MCU started with Howard the Duck in the 80’s but it didn’t really hit mainstream until 2008
I think it's a show for moms who can no longer relate to their kids. They'll watch it and say "my son also doesnt know if he wants a ps4 or xbox. Oh that Sheldon, is a riot"
one of the most glaring early things that showed how it isnt for nerds but making fun about nerds was the time machine episode
not only are they actively shaming and making fun of everyone involved in nerdy hobbies and spending time and money on it - they show leonards whole collection that he is about to sell and howard calls it "nerdvana" and its just one box with a few fantasy daggers and figurines
truly what a non nerd might find a big amount of collectibles i suppose
another thing i didnt understand was the ring episode, where they recite the ring inscription and say "wow we are so nerdy" as if lotr werent the most popular films to come out at their time and win countless awards, and having people do golum impressions for the next 20 years
i understand that they did not want to alienate a big part of people that are not into these hobbies for their viewership but its frustrating
I'm a math teacher and science enthusiast with social anxiety and obsesive compulsive disorder, and I loved The Big Bang Theory from beginning to end. People are bitches.
The thing about Amy...she may have been desperate yes, but she and Sheldon genuinely fell in love and changed each other for the better.
It still feels like they only added her in because people were saying Sheldon was asexual and the show producers didn't like hearing that. There's even an interview with them where they specifically said "no, he just hasn't met the right girl yet" which... is so effing annoying to hear. If you're not sure why that's annoying to hear, just imagine someone saying to a gay person "no, you just haven't met the right woman yet".
I'm just saying, it's fine now, but *at the time*, there was zero asexuality on television, and it was just depressing. (And there are people who will say "so what, who cares if you don't have representation on TV?". I can tell you right now that those people literally see themselves in every single TV show, movie, and commercial, so they don't understand.)
@@HarpsiFizzI am sorry if this is going to sound callous but the annoyance felt on the he hasn't met the right girl yet comment seems to be purely due to assumption that he IS asexual and thus is asexuality ia being erased when there have been zero confirmation both within or out of the show.
Your example with the gay man doesn't work because we KNOW the man in your example is gay but his sexuality is being denied whereas in Sheldon's case its nothing but pure speculation.
Also just because there was zero asexuality on screen at the time seems to be a silly reason to be annoyed when a character who isn't confirmed to be asexual turns out not be asexual.
Like I understand what you are trying to say but to hold that against the show even at that time seems a bit...... Bleh
@sammydray5919 "we KNOW the man in your example is gay but his sexuality is being denied whereas in Sheldon's case its nothing but pure speculation"
How do you know, though? If the character hasn't expressed any interest in women, all you know is "this character is not interested in women", not "you just haven't met the right one yet". It basically assumes "hetero is the default". And as for being annoyed... ok, then- tell me how I *should* feel in said situation. I'm being serious here. If how I felt was "silly" then that means I should not feel that way, which means there is a correct way to feel. Please tell me what the correct way to feel is. I'm very curious.
I'm not trying to shame you, by the way, or say you're bad or bigoted. I'm saying that if you aren't asexual, your experience with things is going to be different. It's just a little messed up, is all. If someone with ASD told me "I'm really annoyed that they said Sheldon doesn't have ASD, because he really displayed the symptoms and it would have been nice to see that on TV", I'd just say "yeah, I can see how that would be disappointing". Not "well you're silly for feeling like that". But eh, Iunno, some people just aren't good at that kinda thing. It's fine.
@@HarpsiFizz Thank you for being civil. I known these topics are sensitive so I appreciate you willing to indulge me like this.
Now regarding the response. Thing is that you ARE assuming that about Sheldon. While prior to Amy Sheldon had not shown interest, it was never blatantly stated that he is asexual. If the show had stated that he was asexual and then walked back on it then yeah the criticism would have been 100% fair. But in this case its not a case of "hetero by default" But more like "ambiguous by default" Because we simply weren't given any confirmation as to whether Sheldon was actually not into that stuff or as the showrunner mentioned he simply hadn't found someone that he would be interested in.
Sheldon as an asexual and his storyline and further development could have worked wonderfully. I personally would have liked that ngl. God can you imagine exploring that perspective and showing people that side of emotional development instead of just the standard romantic comedy route? Would have been nice. And it would just need a bit of tweaking to Amy as a close friend rather than a romantic partner. Their chemistry could have worked either way. But that is not what the show wanted to do even from the beginning.
My point is that Sheldon was never stated to be asexual in the show (or as far as I remember anyways, if I am wrong then I'll take that L) since they kept deliberately vague unfortunately. So the show didn't really walk back on it or lie about it. Or deny asexuality as a concept by saying all you need is the right one or other bs like that.
While asexual Sheldon would have worked beautifully, it doesn't seem like that was their intention for him in the first place.
The reason I said feeling annoyed at that is "silly" (Honestly should have used a better word that doesn't sound like I am talking down to you, thats my bad) is because the annoyance is regarding something that didn't exist in the show's narrative.
Sheldon being asexual was an interpretation, a valid one but at the end of the day its just an interpretation. Its not a case of "Sheldon is definitely not interested in women" But more like "he isn't really interested in anyone else at the moment".
And even with Amy the only reason Sheldon even got interested is because of her intellect and how well her personality works for him. Its a bit extreme (and honestly a bit unlikely) but this really could have been a case of finding the right one.
Of course I am inexperienced in this regard since I am not asexual but I was just trying to highlight that this really might just be a case of letting an interpretation (no matter how valid) blind you from what really happens in the show.
Also if I am completely honest, I genuinely dont think the showrunners were aware enough to realize that they might have been writing Sheldon to be asexual. With how backwards the writing in this show can get, its very much possible that they wrote sheldon to be funny while Leonard and Penny to be the couple and as all shows did at the time, they just kept add more relationships since it was a standard trope at the time.
Like it very well could have been a stupid thought process of "Oh right, time to give Sheldon a girlfriend for more wacky shenanigans" Rather than "Nope cant have Asexuals on the show! No sir! "
Well write a show then!? You can't blame people for not being asexual people! Jesus you must be a control freak " why aren't they making shows about things I like"!@@HarpsiFizz
The only thing i hate this show for is how they fucked up leonards character by fawning over penny while penny clearly just chose him cuz there was no other good option around
And her ending up as a pharmaceutical sales rep felt so forced
It woulda made sense if they went theyre seperate ways in their field(actress and physicist) and leonard found someone who loved him as much as he loved the other character
Imstead we had leonard loving penny way more than penny loved him, he didnt deserved that tbh
Oh and also i love Young sheldon alot
I think this is a bit unfair.... because she has shown interest in Leonard but she was also scared....she has told him that she wanted to be with him and loved him....I also think it's realistic because alot of women get to a point when they get tired of being hurt by the same guy so they try something new and that ends up being the person they love
I'll watch it when theres nothing else on. But usually, Bobs Burgers is also on, sooooo....
“Would you rather eat some delicious steak or this old shoe?”
It makes sense why it was so popular at the time - the general public is pretty easy to satisfy. Young Sheldon is popular, and to me, it is unwatchable
Every hit show has polarised viewers. Either people love it or hate it. It was the same thing with Seinfeld, Friends, Moder Family, South Park, The Simpsons, Family Guy and the list goes on and on.
Because people like different things and hate different things.
Theres no need to delve any deeper into it than that.