I spent about three months trying to figure out the differences between PPC and PPG. Your videos have gone a long way to provide me with clarification. This video built on that education you have provided. Thank you!
Thanks! It does get complicated. Then, on top of that, for ultralights people have to worry about individual interpretations of what is considered a congested area!
Being a private pilot I would quickly become an airspace violator if I went PPG. Too used to going where I want. You throw either Mode C and/or ADSB into the requirements and now you have a pretty advanced electrical system to be installed and you aren't doing that to your body. Trikes become mandatory when you start adding radio equipment.
Hi Randy! I'm not sure about the rules pertaining to aerial applicators. I just know the ones that apply to conventional aircraft doing conventional operations!
This video is extremely informative. I still am a bit confused. There is a public park with about 2 football fields of runway. If I take my PPG and launch from there it is nothing but houses upon houses for about 10 miles. Could I fly over all of them above 1000 feet above the highest structure to make it 10 miles to the beach?
I was taught never fly over anything you don't want to land in. Big corn will hurt you enough, no reason to take on any buildings. 😂 Quiet mode can get you!
Didnt really answer the question, what about a neighhood outside of ABCD airpace? I live in a rural area.. is a town or neighborhood considered a congested area?
There is a specific exemption for aircraft without an electrical system, such as a glider. Wouldn't a registered Paraplane meet that definition? Even many old biplanes meet the definition. I don;t know if an installed radio indicates an electrical system, but many of us use a handheld aviation radio, so, no electrical system. I know this video covers the 'standard' rules, but getting into the nitty gritty specifics may change a few requirements for specific situations.
Maybe not the best video to post under, but I'd appreciate your view. Is my thought process here right? § 103.11 (2) All operations are conducted in uncontrolled airspace. And: § 103.17 Operations in certain airspace. No person may operate an ultralight vehicle within Class A, Class B, Class C, or Class D airspace or within the lateral boundaries of the surface area of Class E airspace designated for an airport unless that person has prior authorization from the ATC facility having jurisdiction over that airspace. So this would limit all flight to class G with maximum altitude in general to 1200' (700') agl with 14500' msl in certain areas out west plus through class E after prior permission as per $103.17. Is that your interpretation too?
Surface-level class E airspace designated for airports is depicted on charts as a dashed red line. This circles airports which are somewhat busy but are not busy enough to have a control tower. So, one could not fly an ultralight over that area. Any other class E airspace should be okay.
Class E airport designated for an airport is only the Class E within 4 mile radius of the airport and at or below 2500 AGL according to Part 91.127. It may also include Class E Extensions to the surface that are designated for Instrument Approach Procedures.
Yes, you can fly over a town. Just keep the minimum 1000 feet or 300 meters. If no town, then 50 meters. If you want to go below that you need a written okey from the landowner. Not sure that everyone is following that and contact the land owner, but the rule is there to protect animals like cows and horses, and of course not to annoy people, ha ha.
Keep in mind private land owners also own the air space above that land. It doesn't matter how rural or high you fly if you are causing undue distress to people OR ANIMALS and disrupt thier enjoyment of their property. You can be sued if you disturb a farmers livestock so the laws don't go away when you fly outside of town. Just stay legally and physically safe and respectful.
Actually, the statement made by the original poster is false. The airspace above any land is owned and managed by the federal government as the US National Airspace. The landowners right to use the airspace ends at the level of the top of their structures. Air rights are only a thing in certain cities and states. It applies to building or developing in the air above certain land. It does not apply to flying in that same air. However, some municipalities have ordinances against noise pollution and disturbances that can apply to airborne operations.
@@deanfowlkes are you able to point to any evidence that this is false? I'd gladly accept new information but the case law has been very clear on this since 1946 with US v. Causby. If for some reason regulatory agencies say different it does not matter as the supreme court ruling overrides whatever they would say. Edit just to clarify that the case confirmed airspace above private land is to be used as a public easement. The public easements are essential for travel, commerce and utility but using easements do not release ownership nor do they allow for recreational use or use that would upset the living pleasure of the property owner. This is to say you can fly over private land as long as you aren't disturbing the occupants or property. Just fly respectfully, that's all I was saying in the original comment.
I spent about three months trying to figure out the differences between PPC and PPG. Your videos have gone a long way to provide me with clarification. This video built on that education you have provided. Thank you!
Thank you for the feedback! I'm glad I was able to help!
Ones a backpack you fly with your hand controls other is more of a go kart type you control with feet and bigger engine
Nice work, Roy! Good production values as well, but the information is king and you delivered it compactly yet comprehensively.
Thank you, Dan! That is high praise coming from someone who has been doing this for years!
@@EasyFlight It's also the wrong information for many of us.
Thanks Roy!-this clears up a lot of questions I had.
Thanks! It does get complicated. Then, on top of that, for ultralights people have to worry about individual interpretations of what is considered a congested area!
Being a private pilot I would quickly become an airspace violator if I went PPG. Too used to going where I want. You throw either Mode C and/or ADSB into the requirements and now you have a pretty advanced electrical system to be installed and you aren't doing that to your body. Trikes become mandatory when you start adding radio equipment.
how'd you get into the paper plate?
@killtime351 😀 it was tough. It involved a copy machine and a chainsaw.
You should come fly in Utah in the winter!
LOL. I'm cold enough in Florida!
Crop Dusters fly low over my home and local city almost everyday--why not a motorized Parachute that only flies 30 mph....
Hi Randy! I'm not sure about the rules pertaining to aerial applicators. I just know the ones that apply to conventional aircraft doing conventional operations!
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Yes is is!
My instructor always said, altitude is insurance 😉
This video is extremely informative. I still am a bit confused. There is a public park with about 2 football fields of runway. If I take my PPG and launch from there it is nothing but houses upon houses for about 10 miles. Could I fly over all of them above 1000 feet above the highest structure to make it 10 miles to the beach?
Unfortunately, no. There are different rules for N-numbered aircraft and ultralights.
@@EasyFlight Thanks.
I was taught never fly over anything you don't want to land in. Big corn will hurt you enough, no reason to take on any buildings. 😂 Quiet mode can get you!
100%! Buildings will leave a mark!
Didnt really answer the question, what about a neighhood outside of ABCD airpace? I live in a rural area.. is a town or neighborhood considered a congested area?
Airspace has nothing to do with congestion. It depends on how dense the neighborhood is and what the federal judge thinks.
@@EasyFlight yes so what is that? I’ve been searching for this answer for a long time and have yet to find a definitive.
ADSB out AND a mode C transponder….
Yes, anymore if you fly where you need a mode C transponder, then you also need ADSB out!
There is a specific exemption for aircraft without an electrical system, such as a glider. Wouldn't a registered Paraplane meet that definition? Even many old biplanes meet the definition. I don;t know if an installed radio indicates an electrical system, but many of us use a handheld aviation radio, so, no electrical system. I know this video covers the 'standard' rules, but getting into the nitty gritty specifics may change a few requirements for specific situations.
Thank you!!
You're welcome!
Maybe not the best video to post under, but I'd appreciate your view.
Is my thought process here right?
§ 103.11 (2) All operations are conducted in uncontrolled airspace.
And:
§ 103.17 Operations in certain airspace.
No person may operate an ultralight vehicle within Class A, Class B, Class C, or Class D airspace or within the lateral boundaries of the surface area of Class E airspace designated for an airport unless that person has prior authorization from the ATC facility having jurisdiction over that airspace.
So this would limit all flight to class G with maximum altitude in general to 1200' (700') agl with 14500' msl in certain areas out west plus through class E after prior permission as per $103.17. Is that your interpretation too?
Surface-level class E airspace designated for airports is depicted on charts as a dashed red line. This circles airports which are somewhat busy but are not busy enough to have a control tower. So, one could not fly an ultralight over that area. Any other class E airspace should be okay.
Class E airport designated for an airport is only the Class E within 4 mile radius of the airport and at or below 2500 AGL according to Part 91.127. It may also include Class E Extensions to the surface that are designated for Instrument Approach Procedures.
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I live under class delta, only the Jet Pack man is allowed to fly here.
There is no under Delta airspace.
I am hoping he meant within Class Delta Airspace.
So, the short answer was: hell, no!
Yes, you can fly over a town. Just keep the minimum 1000 feet or 300 meters. If no town, then 50 meters. If you want to go below that you need a written okey from the landowner. Not sure that everyone is following that and contact the land owner, but the rule is there to protect animals like cows and horses, and of course not to annoy people, ha ha.
Thanks! What country is that for?
@@EasyFlight Sweden :)
Here goes Sea Lawyer again. lol
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Keep in mind private land owners also own the air space above that land. It doesn't matter how rural or high you fly if you are causing undue distress to people OR ANIMALS and disrupt thier enjoyment of their property. You can be sued if you disturb a farmers livestock so the laws don't go away when you fly outside of town. Just stay legally and physically safe and respectful.
Hi Dante! Thanks for commenting! What is the law or regulation that states that land owners own the airspace above their land?
I’ve always heard the opposite that you don’t own the air space above the land you own
Actually, the statement made by the original poster is false. The airspace above any land is owned and managed by the federal government as the US National Airspace. The landowners right to use the airspace ends at the level of the top of their structures.
Air rights are only a thing in certain cities and states. It applies to building or developing in the air above certain land. It does not apply to flying in that same air.
However, some municipalities have ordinances against noise pollution and disturbances that can apply to airborne operations.
@@EasyFlight Supreme court case law established in US v. Causby.
This has been long standing and has been upheld in many cases since.
@@deanfowlkes are you able to point to any evidence that this is false? I'd gladly accept new information but the case law has been very clear on this since 1946 with US v. Causby. If for some reason regulatory agencies say different it does not matter as the supreme court ruling overrides whatever they would say.
Edit just to clarify that the case confirmed airspace above private land is to be used as a public easement. The public easements are essential for travel, commerce and utility but using easements do not release ownership nor do they allow for recreational use or use that would upset the living pleasure of the property owner. This is to say you can fly over private land as long as you aren't disturbing the occupants or property. Just fly respectfully, that's all I was saying in the original comment.
We have one that flies over all the time. So obnoxious. Should be treated like a Chinese spy balloon...
Sorry that is happening.
1 what, 747?
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