I would have asked Logan why he just doesn't leave the guy(Hulk) alone. Because that what classic Hulk was always saying. It's good enough as a comeback
Except there is, because Venom is actually canonically stronger than Hulk now (he ended up defeating Dark Carnage who equalled a symbiote-boosted Hulk in a fistfight, and then became even stronger after that in the King in Black event). Also, Venom threw hands with Juggernaut, who is Hulk-tier, and won. So yeah.
@@drixg555 Spider-Man also got his powers at 15 and depending on when this was he would have been like 20-22 only 8-10 years older than 12 which is negligible to Wolverine.
It's actually endearing in a way, since it's like Logan is seeing past the monstrous exterior and sees him as a regular guy with issues. Considering since he's a mutant he knows the feeling, even around other mutants at times
@@Grassphobic Agreed. Even though Venom ain't a mutant, he ironically looks more monstrous than the majority of the X-Men (even Beast looks more like a person than Venom's huge white eyes and needle-like teeth), and he's also been pelted with accusations of being a monster despite genuinely wanting to do good (even at his worst, he was never aiming to hurt innocent people). When Logan was making fun of Veno, he was basically roasting his past self.
Yessir. This is what I really love about darker heroes. They’re able to understand and empathize with people’s struggles, and that compassion allows them to help even the worst kind of person
I wish there was one more panel of the bartender just setting a beer out in front of Venom. "Looks like you could use this" Then went off to grab a broom.
Interesting how Venom stops saying "we" when he says, "I fucked up Spiderman." Almost like the peak of their insecurity is causing either the symbiote or Brock to get so angry that one of them takes over completely for a moment.
I think it might actually be that Brock and the symbiote hate Spider-Man so much their bond was strong enough for them to consider themselves one thing. Kinda like how carnage and Cassidy are a perfect match and therefore they don’t refer to themselves as “we” just “I”. But I like your interpretation too!
Carnage and Cassidy aren't connected through their nervous system like Venom, and that's why they say "I", right? They're bonded through the blood. I could be wrong. Anyway, I hated to comment and break up the 222 likes and 2 comments on this subthread.
@@rogerfreeman6787 I could be wrong as well but isn’t that just in the movie? Like the chocolate thing and draining life force energy? I don’t think that’s the case in the comics, or I just never came across it.
Venom: "We have suffered more pain than you could imagine." Wolverine: *Has survived a nuclear bomb being dropped on him, has had to kill his love interest on multiple occasions, is nearly immortal hence he has watched many friends and family die, has served in every war known to man, has endured having his bones coated with adamantium a procedure that would kill lesser men from the pain alone, and has fought the Hulk on multiple occasions in which he describes getting hit by the Hulk as getting hit by a walking earthquake.*
I've admired Eddie (and venoms) growth as a character, from villain driven by single minded instincts, to starting to question their place in society being an anti hero vigilante, to being a father and protecting his son, to straight up saving the universe.
A lot of people hate villains becoming heroes but if done well over time I think it works. The Emma Frost, Juggernaut and Venom we have now took many years and some occasional relapsing into old ways to get to where they are now.
I like that Logan just felt like going to the bar in full Wolverine costume. And people around don't seem too bothered by this, so he must do it often enough that they're used to it.
Hell, when they were filming Dr Strange, Benedict walked into a local comic shop, full costume, and bought some volumes. Including The Oath-great story.
@@dbhe02 Well, I just hope they don't send death threats to Tom Holland. I get it, I also enjoy Tobey Maguire's Spiderman and Andrew Garfield a lil bit more than MCU Spiderman but I still think MCU Spiderman is alright.
@@frog6054 I mean do you not like seeing Spider-Man beat up people? Or superheroes in general 🤣🤣 Also how is this guy hating, you know it’s possible to like a villain and a hero right?
@@dingleberry4234 I never said this guy was hating, I said he's being kinky. You should talk to the other guy that outright said he is a hater. Pardon me.
How many times has Venom been talked to as a person, instead of a monster? When has someone just sat him down, like Logan did, and just help him see the big picture? It wasn’t the power of Friendship that saved the day, but pure badass.
@@1rotzy I beg to differ. I think it rolls off the tongue perfectly. As a matter of fact, from now on when I ask if someone would like a seat, or if I may have a seat of my own, I'm going to replace sit and seat with "glorious curb stomp."
@@SynthApprentice I have two questions for you. 1. Have you been living under a rock since 2007? 2. Can I get under there with you? The rock sounds like a lovely place to be.
Literally several lifetimes lol. What's Wolverine up to now? 1832-2021... just shy of 200 years old. Lumberjack, soldier, spy, bartender, husband, samurai, assassin, SHIELD operative, superhero, supervillain, superhero again, schoolteacher... did i miss anything? Dude's been around the block.
@@___d311 Back in the late 90s there was a period where Professor X thought Wolverine might have been the first mutant. As in thousands of years old. But this plot got left in the dust a long time ago.
@@BC08 Personally I take things one story at a time. The only books I’ve really kept up with are Donny Cate’s books on Venom and Thor. I really liked those runs, the rest I haven’t really given any time or money.
Logan was just trying to enjoy a drink and Venom pushed him too far. Sad, they didn't need to fight. Love the visual effects and use of music as always
If you go back to the eighties there is an old Marvel two in one where the Things walks into a bar and sees the Sandman having a drink and he picks up a barstool and is about to hit him with it and Sandman says go ahead he doesn.t care and the Thing instead sits down and they talk over a beer it is a great story with the only fights being in flashbacks.
Really come to think of it only someone like Logan can actually reach out to the venom duo and walk away. So i think its new for the symbiote to step out of a battle and reflect.
@@MantraMan2077 so what makes carnage differ from venom? Is it because the first person he bonded with was cletus Cassidy or are they all just very unique?
I like how any other hero/villain would've been killed by Venom tearing through them. But Wolverine is just a hard counter to Venom, both physically and mentally. As it takes an animal to know an animal, Logan knows what Eddy/Venom goes through and knows the only way he can be convinced to change his ways is an ass whooping.
Alright here's a question to think on what do you think would beat the other the hunger virus or survivor 21 (the cannibal virus) if a zombie infected a cannibal would survivor 21 counter act it since it was made to help survive anything or if a zombie was infected or doused in survivor 21 would it reversed the process or would it be over whelmed by the hunger virus and turn the infected back into human or then turn them into a cannibal and when i mean doused i mean the way Frank was covered in it making him immune to it Or heck which side do you think would win in an all out war the hunger gospel's super undead army or all the cannibals combines into one tribe and by all i mean ALL including the normal humans to make the hulks huge tribe look like an ant colony
@Teutonic Knight Marvel puts Spidey's strength far below Hulk's. Example from their strength scaling: 0. Feeble(Professor X) 1. Normal(Dr. Strange) 2. Athlete(Nick Fury) 3. Olympic(Punisher) 4. Enhanced(Black Panther) 5. Remarkable(Captain America) 6. Incredible(Spider-Man) 7. Amazing(Carol Danvers) 8. Monstrous(The Thing) 9. Unearthly(Savage Hulk) 10. Cosmic(Thor) And also according to the creator of both the Hulk and Thor, he says Thor and Hercules were made to be stronger than the Hulk.
@@1973Ganesh They'll always bring in one of the stronger versions of the Hulk during the arguments, they're pretty much throwing in the towel when they do that. Hence why I also typed "savage Hulk" instead of just Hulk, so none of them can come and say "but whatabout...."
@@1973Ganesh Are you talking about strength or overall character? There's nothing above cosmic strength rating, cosmic rating is incalculable. Odin can amp his own strength but at normal he's not pound for pound as strong as his son. Same for Zeus and his son. But if you mean't overall power than strength plays a small role and the skyfathers who are universal reality warpers are more powerful than their sons who are considered gods of strength.
A lot of people talking about "Logan beating Venom" and how that makes no sense. What happened really is they have an altercation, Logan makes a point and then leaves. Venom is in the ground and immediately gets up. Is not that big of a deal; if you are a fan of fighting games lore you know what I'm talking about. Also really nice choice of music; I love Bloody Tears OST.
Really I do hate they whole "Its up to the writer" bull shell, its why we get Thor killing Galactus in his title but losing to Moon Knight in the Avengers. I get why its a thing but I would rather there be a set power level and they have to get clever with the writing. Like here....Wolverine and Venom would end up fighting for days and in the end Logan may be overwhelmed cause he still needs rest eventually. Logan's dangerous not because of his power....its his 180 years as a warrior trained by the best and honed by battle. Eddie and Venom can't hope to match that experience.
@@LaughingOwlKiller Completely agree; I think this was handled extremely well, respecting both characters. It's sadly a common trope in comics to have a character being a jobber to make others take the spotlight; without any concern to the consistency issues that may bring. I still cannot overcome the fact that a comic where Squirrel Girl defeated Thanos ever was conceibed; I understand is a joke character, but tbh it is just unfunny and lazy; as ridiculous as Thor losing to MK.
Yeah both of these characters are extremely strong in their own rights and can't easily come out on top over one another. Having it be more of a mental game is the most respectful overall to give an excuse for a fun fight
It is up to the writer though. Different writers will have different interpretations or views on characters and their strength and portrayal of them. And that’s okay. Makes for a good variety.
Thanks to the sjws. Who’d rather push there far left Marxist agenda then write good stories. Main stream comics are now nothing more than propaganda leaflets yes green arrow and green lighting did that in the 70s but the difference was quality storytelling artwork action and a balanced presentation of views from the left and the right if your gonna throw politics and social issues in the mix that’s the way to do it. Personally I prefer to just be entertained and immersed even educated but not preached and talked down to. I ll just stick to classic stories from the back issue bin
@@greyfenrir2238 same which I don’t like because I want straight couples I also want a comic letting people get married like Peter and mj but sense we have still it can’t happen right now without him gone
This one always was great to me, mostly because he’s basically fighting Spider-Man’s version of Sabertooth, Wolvie and Spidey are both small guys with animal themes, whose main villains are basically huge versions of themselves, so having them face each other’s rivals is definitely a fun moment.
This reminds me of Playing the Boss fight by fighting against Wolverine while playing as Venom in The Ultimate Spider-man Video Game. Loved that Boss Battle.
Any of you ever played the Ultimate Spider-Man PS2 game back in the day where you could play as Spider-Man and Venom. I think Venom’s first boss fight was Wolverine, also at a bar funnily enough.
Even tho this is inaccurate, i do like the message behind it. Ur not the only one that suffers or have been wronged b4. I think Logan wouldve really torn into him if this was when he and peter were buddies.
@@tek512 We know how plot armor in comics work though for popular characters. Reality, Venom beats his ass down but writers do differently all the time.
This wasn’t just humbling. It was a life lesson and one Venom seemed to take. That’s not only impressive (that Wolverine can talk down Venom) but also wise on Venom’s part for allowing those words to stick. Yeah he’s still a jerk but he stopped and thought about it. These panels say a lot about both characters
Aah There’s a great comic dub of this battle somewhere on the site. And its a hell of a fight! When wolverine makes that comment about Spiderman being twelve i just imagine the mcu version protesting with a voice crack pfft!
“What are you lookin at?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 bartender shoulda said “a bigole bitch” and had Wolverine still standing in the door looking back like dont even try it🤣
I really hope everyone is doing great out here in their world... haven't been into Wolverine since I was "like 12" so to see this and feel invigorated with the Castlevania music in the background was a Nostalgia overload!!!
Wolverine's own dodging ability and strength is actually pretty under rated , normal grunts whether they be highly trained soldiers or The Hand ninjas actually can't tag him cause of how wild and fast he moves and attacks.
yeah but in all honesty Venom would body Wolverine. he’s been bodied by spider-man a couple of times so i don’t see what he would do to someone like Venom who’s ragdolled spider-man.
Love this so much. Venom has plenty of reasons to feel aggrieved but Wolverine knows everything he's felt at 10x the magnitude and he's felt the pain he's felt 100-fold. His words probably fell on deaf ears but he's the one guy who can relate to anybody who's been through trauma and his advice is good.
This also wasn't a fight to the death, but a narrative fight. Wolverine won because he convinced Venom not to drag the fight on. A real fight to the death could have been different. Or the same. Close fight.
@@Dizastermaster. true true. The stakes have always mattered the most. Did you see Spider-Man destroy Wolvie as the Dr Octopus version Superior Spider-Man?? And spidey and Venom are very close
@@Dizastermaster. Venom would ragdoll him then leave him webbed up when he got bored. As far as stats are concerned, Wolvie vs Venom is like an experienced 3 year-old with knives vs a heavyweight veteran boxer.
I really liked this, especially since this fight would go nowhere fast as neither one of them can really do anything to keep the other down. So Wolverine is able to talk his way out of the fight, because Wolverine is probably one of the very few people in the Marvel universe that can relate to Venom (Hulk might be another one), he's able to understand first hand what its like to be angry, to be viewed, treated, and feel like a monster, so he gave Venom a chance. No one actually won this fight since again neither one can kill the other, but Wolverine was still able to end the fight by giving Venom a chance, by making him consider if he just wants to be a monster or something else.
Well if someone like Logan made you doubt what you are doing, your focus in battle will be destroyed. Sure Venom could beat him but Logan can last long enough to make venom feel bad for himself. Thats what I think when I saw this fight.
@@RedLithic wolverine vs hulk was not close fight anymore ,it used to be close in classic hulk comics, in any modern comic hulk usually treats him like a fodder. Also wolverine kinda works against hulk since he is faster than hulk, his weapon can hurt hulk and he is very durable himself,but venom is basically a counter for wolverine,he is faster, stronger to boot
@@Bragglord Wolverine is much faster than he looks. In superior Spider-Man he spit blitzed doc ock who was in Spider-Man’s body. Not to mention his healing factor just makes him a tank.
When venom said that, "ive felt pain you couldnt imagine." All i could think about is when wolverine saved a japanese guy by taking a nuclear blast close range searing all his skin and flesh off to his bone.
Loved this! In one of the older Spider-Man games where you play as venom you blowup a bunch of bikes and Logan walks out of the bar to fight. So similar but also multiverse differences haha
What a Zabuza Naruto moment, it makes no actual sense for Wolverine to beat Venom without using Venom's weaknesses. So instead Venom's just like "Your words cut deeper than any blade." Also I think this is a little bit of a thing that any writer can just make a character win whatever fight they want as long as they want him too.
On one hand i'm glad that logan was dropping some wisdom and lessons on eddie/venom but on the other hand this is so glaringly inaccaurate because there is no way venom would lose to wolverine i just cant see it
@@Rix54A yeah, but it makes no sense. Venom is many times more powerful than Wolverine. So is Spider-man, for that matter, and he's beaten Logan several times without breaking a sweat.
And yet wolverine not only has beaten the hulk before, but in his even weaker elderly state killed an entire civilization of hulk's, and that's not even counting the time they gave him a story line where he kills the entire marvel universe, cause Deadpool wasn't the only one that did that.
Your absolutely right about Wolverine not beating Venom. However, there's one more thing to be said. This wasn't a Victory where Logan won by pure might. It was a Victory earned by reason. If you can't beat em, talk em down the best you can.
@@maxburrill6192 I agree, but for different reasons. You can have all the strength in the world, but it doesn't matter if any blows you deal heal up in seconds and your opponent can go on seemingly forever. Both venom and Wolverine having these abilities makes it so that neither will come out the victor even after they tear each other to shreds.
As much as I like venom he needed to be taken down a notch and wolverine was the perfect person to do it but I am still team venom here. Plus I like the naruto song playing it takes me back to my childhood.
@3:13 why did Venom have a duck 🦆 on his shoulder? Also, wouldn't Wolverine be the perfect host? With his regenerative powers he'd be the never ending, all you can eat buffet!
@@FernandoComicsOfficial wouldn't it?? Now with the collective mind being a thing for the symbiot, "race", could you JUST imagine the impact Wolverine's mind would have on them?!? 😜
Remember this comic lol funny how popularity comes into play... Venom is smarter, faster and stronger than Logan. Should literally mop the floor with him however it's not what the story calls for 😂
How is a bodybuilding reporter smarter than someone who's been through most major wars for the last hundred years? Not as sure what the symbiote has been up to in fairness.
Venom has had some huge upgrades recently, yes. Not relevant to this particular fight years prior to that though, except anything the symbiote was getting up to before spiderman.
Not a huge fan of the animation you add to some of the actions. The artists already drew it to look dynamic, so the addition of the animation seems forced and awkward imo. Still great work tho and thanks for bringing more awesome comics to us
I assume a lot of those folk are from the new movies. Although in fairness, and as many have already pointed out, they're both super tanky and have healing factor. If Venom and Wolverine fought legit that's a really rough match up that could last muuuuuch longer. Wolverine was more interested in getting in Brock's head than trying to kill him, which made this fight easier on Venom overall.
He can't trash spiderman so how would he trash venom someone who is on par with him maybe even above?. Spiderman has won most of their fights most times trashing wolverine basically 2 shotting him and then web em up. Now venom someone who throws a harder punch than peter not only that he also has stronger webs and is more ruthless.
@@darrylisaac9400 Peter is more creative, also neither Peter or Logan were going all out. Spidey can hold up a fucking bus and stop a TRAIN. He could RIP a person apart like paper mache if he wasn't a boy scout. Stop low balling spidey
And now my question to all the real nerds: Is that possible? Can Wolverine stab and hurt Venom? Can he get throught the symbiote? Happy to hear your answers. For me that was a little bit to easy?? But what do i know i stopped reading wolverine in the 90's lol
Of course he can cut through the symbiote. He can cut clean through steal. Flesh is easy. He can destroy the host (brocks) organs. This forces the symbiote to focus its biomass to heal the host, this slows it down. With that said does wolverine alone have the ability to kill the host? Damage it beyond repair? No. But he can slow venom down again again again. Venom cant kill wolverine either. The animantiam cant break, and wolverine heals from catastrophic injury. These are 2 immovable objects. So the only battles they could win over eachother is psychological or moral.
"You made Spiderman sad? I stabbed the Hulk last week."
There's literally no coming back from that lol
I would have asked Logan why he just doesn't leave the guy(Hulk) alone. Because that what classic Hulk was always saying. It's good enough as a comeback
Well it kinda is when you figure out spiderman has boxed the hulk before and held his own
Except there is, because Venom is actually canonically stronger than Hulk now (he ended up defeating Dark Carnage who equalled a symbiote-boosted Hulk in a fistfight, and then became even stronger after that in the King in Black event). Also, Venom threw hands with Juggernaut, who is Hulk-tier, and won. So yeah.
I’ll say “Yeah! Prof. Hulk that is” or “just like ciclops stabbed jean!”
Lmfao
"You know he's like 12 or something right?"
What a legendary savage.
Venom could unironically reply "--and I'm 5, He's more than twice my age!"
As an attempt to brag that ends up just being mildly funny.
Given that Logan is technically a double centenarian, Spidey does look 12 to him.
@@drixg555 Spider-Man also got his powers at 15 and depending on when this was he would have been like 20-22 only 8-10 years older than 12 which is negligible to Wolverine.
@@xiphos8219 Spider-Man has been in his 30s for a while. He has literally had a divorce.
He be speaking about Miles Morales you know, he's about 12 or so. Pete should be in his mid 20's by now.
It's actually endearing in a way, since it's like Logan is seeing past the monstrous exterior and sees him as a regular guy with issues. Considering since he's a mutant he knows the feeling, even around other mutants at times
Strangely wholesome
Wait Venom is a mutant?
@@luqmuhmmad2616 Nah, I'm saying since Logan is one he's had to put up with people treating him like a monstrosity despite not even looking like one
@@Grassphobic Agreed. Even though Venom ain't a mutant, he ironically looks more monstrous than the majority of the X-Men (even Beast looks more like a person than Venom's huge white eyes and needle-like teeth), and he's also been pelted with accusations of being a monster despite genuinely wanting to do good (even at his worst, he was never aiming to hurt innocent people). When Logan was making fun of Veno, he was basically roasting his past self.
Yessir.
This is what I really love about darker heroes. They’re able to understand and empathize with people’s struggles, and that compassion allows them to help even the worst kind of person
At this stage of Marvel comics, I'm pretty sure the bartender has a healing factor. Or maybe a Thor hammer.
All 7 infinity gems, heart of the universe, and a cosmic cube to boot.
The bartender Is like the Gardner with shotgun of dbz, his Power Is beyond infinity.
I wish there was one more panel of the bartender just setting a beer out in front of Venom. "Looks like you could use this" Then went off to grab a broom.
He's Balder.
Hahaha lol yeah a lot has change since the good old days
Interesting how Venom stops saying "we" when he says, "I fucked up Spiderman." Almost like the peak of their insecurity is causing either the symbiote or Brock to get so angry that one of them takes over completely for a moment.
I think it might actually be that Brock and the symbiote hate Spider-Man so much their bond was strong enough for them to consider themselves one thing. Kinda like how carnage and Cassidy are a perfect match and therefore they don’t refer to themselves as “we” just “I”. But I like your interpretation too!
@@Metabolter Both of you drive great scenarios!!! 👍👍
Carnage and Cassidy aren't connected through their nervous system like Venom, and that's why they say "I", right? They're bonded through the blood. I could be wrong. Anyway, I hated to comment and break up the 222 likes and 2 comments on this subthread.
@@Metabolter I think it's the symbiote talking in that moment, because you know how Peter's Life got ruined when the symbiote started changing him
@@rogerfreeman6787 I could be wrong as well but isn’t that just in the movie? Like the chocolate thing and draining life force energy? I don’t think that’s the case in the comics, or I just never came across it.
When Wolverine called Venom "Goo" I lost it. Straight up LEGENDARY.
He ain’t wrong.
@@dfong8870 he aint wrong at all lmao, he put venom in his place🤣
He's a boss that's for sure !
I thought he was going to call him bub
The devil is in half the details...
Venom: "We have suffered more pain than you could imagine."
Wolverine: *Has survived a nuclear bomb being dropped on him, has had to kill his love interest on multiple occasions, is nearly immortal hence he has watched many friends and family die, has served in every war known to man, has endured having his bones coated with adamantium a procedure that would kill lesser men from the pain alone, and has fought the Hulk on multiple occasions in which he describes getting hit by the Hulk as getting hit by a walking earthquake.*
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he only served in 3 wars not every war known to man hes only like 200
@@novatheboss2 civil war, ww1 and 2?
Wolverine:Oh look at Venom Jr gonna cry?
@@Raccon_Detective. XD
I like how thebartender casually looks at venom, as if its something that regularly happens to a bar owner in the marvel world
I'm pretty sure these two have fought at this bar before
Giving Venom that jaded, just-another-day-at-the-office stare.
That’s the bar wolverine always goes to and he regularly has fights there, he knows the bartender personally aswell
He's probably not worried because he has mutant damage insurance.
Probably waiting for him to get a drink 🤣🤣
I've admired Eddie (and venoms) growth as a character, from villain driven by single minded instincts, to starting to question their place in society being an anti hero vigilante, to being a father and protecting his son, to straight up saving the universe.
At last to become god nul replacement
Yes!!! Thank u!!! Facts
We are good boyz~!!! -Venom/Eddie Brock
A lot of people hate villains becoming heroes but if done well over time I think it works. The Emma Frost, Juggernaut and Venom we have now took many years and some occasional relapsing into old ways to get to where they are now.
Too being the very last human to exist, before venom left his dead husk
“WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT?!”
“A guy who needs a double?”
“….FUCK IT, SURE.”
Bruh… lmao I know he needed a drink after that “talking to”
@@wzrdkeli4317 I needed a drink too! 😂
“Whisky?”
“NEAT, PLEASE”
“Do you wanna talk about what just happened…?”
“AFTER MY THIRD DOUBLE, YES”
Venom should have looked at the bartender, put his hand to his mouth, point at Wolverine and say "That guys crazy".
Ive had thise kinda days too.
I like that Logan just felt like going to the bar in full Wolverine costume.
And people around don't seem too bothered by this, so he must do it often enough that they're used to it.
I noticed that too. I almost think it would have been better with him wearing his biker jacket
Nah he goes to that bar all the time in the comics, so for the locals it’s regular
He most likely goes to the bar after some superhero work so I guess he doesn't care to take it off at that point.
Hell, when they were filming Dr Strange, Benedict walked into a local comic shop, full costume, and bought some volumes. Including The Oath-great story.
He gets free drinks if he shows up in costume
I don’t know why, but the mental image of Venom in the MCU saying he fucked up spiderman makes my day
Omfg I can't not see one MCU spider-man hater do I
@@dbhe02
I think they just being kinky, there a whole group of people who likes seeing somebody getting beat up, it kinda like a fetish.
@@dbhe02
Well, I just hope they don't send death threats to Tom Holland. I get it, I also enjoy Tobey Maguire's Spiderman and Andrew Garfield a lil bit more than MCU Spiderman but I still think MCU Spiderman is alright.
@@frog6054 I mean do you not like seeing Spider-Man beat up people? Or superheroes in general 🤣🤣 Also how is this guy hating, you know it’s possible to like a villain and a hero right?
@@dingleberry4234
I never said this guy was hating, I said he's being kinky. You should talk to the other guy that outright said he is a hater. Pardon me.
How many times has Venom been talked to as a person, instead of a monster? When has someone just sat him down, like Logan did, and just help him see the big picture? It wasn’t the power of Friendship that saved the day, but pure badass.
"sat him down"
@@MKG176 I wanted to go with, “Glorious curb stomp,” but it doesn’t roll off the tongue as well.
Not many can just beat his ass while giving him the talk tbh
@@1rotzy I beg to differ. I think it rolls off the tongue perfectly. As a matter of fact, from now on when I ask if someone would like a seat, or if I may have a seat of my own, I'm going to replace sit and seat with "glorious curb stomp."
Yeah, it's funny. Wolverine is who you talk to when you think you're a monster. Spider-Man is who you talk to when you're not sure you're a hero.
Love the line "you made spiderman sad?" LOL Peter goes through existential crises on the regular
"My wife is hot, and she's supportive of my life-threatening lifestyle. She loves me very much. What did I do to deserve such a tragic fate?"
@@SynthApprentice Sssshhhh, Joe Mephisto will hear you.
@@SynthApprentice I have two questions for you.
1. Have you been living under a rock since 2007?
2. Can I get under there with you? The rock sounds like a lovely place to be.
@@hpos1086 is there room under that rock for one more…?
@@SynthApprentice Tell me you’ve never read a Spider-Man comic without telling me you’ve never read a Spider-Man comic.
"See ya around, Goo"
ABSOLUTE GIGA CHAD LEGEND
😆
He LITTEARLY looks like the giga chad meme lol
Yea his Testosterone lvl is also very High
I love how they just argue while fighting since they know they can't really hurt each other
You ain't fighting a boy pretending to be a man anymore, venom.
Now you're fighting a man who's done and seen shit to last several lifetimes
Yeah this one isn't easy to scare lol
Hasn't wolverine in some iterations, *been around* for several lifetimes?
@@___d311 Earth 616 Logan is right under 200 years old
Literally several lifetimes lol. What's Wolverine up to now? 1832-2021... just shy of 200 years old. Lumberjack, soldier, spy, bartender, husband, samurai, assassin, SHIELD operative, superhero, supervillain, superhero again, schoolteacher... did i miss anything?
Dude's been around the block.
@@___d311 Back in the late 90s there was a period where Professor X thought Wolverine might have been the first mutant. As in thousands of years old. But this plot got left in the dust a long time ago.
Wolverine saved the planet by humbling Venom and he probably doesn’t realize it.
how did that save the planet. haven‘t read this comic
@@Dr.JonathanCrane Venom becomes captain Universe and saves the planet in King in Black.
@@assassinsknight That’s new Marvel, continuity is too broken to matter these days
@@BC08 Personally I take things one story at a time. The only books I’ve really kept up with are Donny Cate’s books on Venom and Thor. I really liked those runs, the rest I haven’t really given any time or money.
@@assassinsknight Cates and Aaron are the main guys driving Marvel canon into the dirt
Logan was just trying to enjoy a drink and Venom pushed him too far. Sad, they didn't need to fight. Love the visual effects and use of music as always
Reminds me of the time Juggernaut beat up Colussus for causing a scene in a bar
Thank you Demod ! I appreciate it my friend
@@FernandoComicsOfficial can you do Superman vs Muhammad Ali
@@megabladechronicles962 and Wolverine just watches 😂
If you go back to the eighties there is an old Marvel two in one where the Things walks into a bar and sees the Sandman having a drink and he picks up a barstool and is about to hit him with it and Sandman says go ahead he doesn.t care and the Thing instead sits down and they talk over a beer it is a great story with the only fights being in flashbacks.
Interesting to see that Venom actually has reasoning skills, and isn’t just a psychotic alien entity
Of course They had reasoning skills..They never were mindless...just single focused on Spider-Man
Well yeah. He ain't Carnage.
@@MantraMan2077 I was going to say the same thing you beat me by two hours
Really come to think of it only someone like Logan can actually reach out to the venom duo and walk away. So i think its new for the symbiote to step out of a battle and reflect.
@@MantraMan2077 so what makes carnage differ from venom? Is it because the first person he bonded with was cletus Cassidy or are they all just very unique?
I like how any other hero/villain would've been killed by Venom tearing through them. But Wolverine is just a hard counter to Venom, both physically and mentally. As it takes an animal to know an animal, Logan knows what Eddy/Venom goes through and knows the only way he can be convinced to change his ways is an ass whooping.
Hope everyone having a great day, just finished reading Marvel Cannibal Universe. Absolutely Crazy.
Agreed, Frank with those great comics as usual. Hope they keep the Punisher stuff coming. 🙏
Honestly got back into comics with that series wish we could see more
Alright here's a question to think on what do you think would beat the other the hunger virus or survivor 21 (the cannibal virus) if a zombie infected a cannibal would survivor 21 counter act it since it was made to help survive anything or if a zombie was infected or doused in survivor 21 would it reversed the process or would it be over whelmed by the hunger virus and turn the infected back into human or then turn them into a cannibal and when i mean doused i mean the way Frank was covered in it making him immune to it
Or heck which side do you think would win in an all out war the hunger gospel's super undead army or all the cannibals combines into one tribe and by all i mean ALL including the normal humans to make the hulks huge tribe look like an ant colony
@@humanity600 have you read punisher THE END of the the end line it's so damn cool perfect punisher story
@@the_priest_of_holy_moon_cult not yet but I will now.
Even Wolverine knows Spider-man is always pulling his punches
Against Venom Spiderman can't hold back he would die
@@MrSegadude21 depends on the writer I suppose, I have seen him pulling punches to not hurt whomever Venom has taken control of.
@@noahwattel4226 it's usually Eddie Brock or Mac Gargan, neither need to be forced to hurt Spider-Man.
Doc Ock found out and was like "Holy shit this guy could have killed us without thinking twice."
Wolverine only knows that because spider man slammed him
( Tho it was Otto in his body it's still his body)
"Sorry,
Heart's growing back... wanna make sure I heard that right."
Epic 😂
"See ya around goo." lol That last line was the stinger.
Insult to injury at its finest lol
“Wow. You made Spider-Man sad. Congratulations”
*”I stabbed the Hulk last week”*
Time to sit down, Venom.
Venom can’t even counter claim cause that would mean he has to give spiderman credit on something.
@Teutonic Knight Marvel puts Spidey's strength far below Hulk's. Example from their strength scaling:
0. Feeble(Professor X)
1. Normal(Dr. Strange)
2. Athlete(Nick Fury)
3. Olympic(Punisher)
4. Enhanced(Black Panther)
5. Remarkable(Captain America)
6. Incredible(Spider-Man)
7. Amazing(Carol Danvers)
8. Monstrous(The Thing)
9. Unearthly(Savage Hulk)
10. Cosmic(Thor)
And also according to the creator of both the Hulk and Thor, he says Thor and Hercules were made to be stronger than the Hulk.
@@1973Ganesh They'll always bring in one of the stronger versions of the Hulk during the arguments, they're pretty much throwing in the towel when they do that. Hence why I also typed "savage Hulk" instead of just Hulk, so none of them can come and say "but whatabout...."
@@1973Ganesh Are you talking about strength or overall character?
There's nothing above cosmic strength rating, cosmic rating is incalculable. Odin can amp his own strength but at normal he's not pound for pound as strong as his son. Same for Zeus and his son.
But if you mean't overall power than strength plays a small role and the skyfathers who are universal reality warpers are more powerful than their sons who are considered gods of strength.
@@1973Ganesh King Thor took the mantle of all father after Odin passed away, yeah correct.
A lot of people talking about "Logan beating Venom" and how that makes no sense. What happened really is they have an altercation, Logan makes a point and then leaves. Venom is in the ground and immediately gets up. Is not that big of a deal; if you are a fan of fighting games lore you know what I'm talking about. Also really nice choice of music; I love Bloody Tears OST.
Really I do hate they whole "Its up to the writer" bull shell, its why we get Thor killing Galactus in his title but losing to Moon Knight in the Avengers. I get why its a thing but I would rather there be a set power level and they have to get clever with the writing. Like here....Wolverine and Venom would end up fighting for days and in the end Logan may be overwhelmed cause he still needs rest eventually. Logan's dangerous not because of his power....its his 180 years as a warrior trained by the best and honed by battle. Eddie and Venom can't hope to match that experience.
@@LaughingOwlKiller Completely agree; I think this was handled extremely well, respecting both characters. It's sadly a common trope in comics to have a character being a jobber to make others take the spotlight; without any concern to the consistency issues that may bring. I still cannot overcome the fact that a comic where Squirrel Girl defeated Thanos ever was conceibed; I understand is a joke character, but tbh it is just unfunny and lazy; as ridiculous as Thor losing to MK.
Yeah both of these characters are extremely strong in their own rights and can't easily come out on top over one another. Having it be more of a mental game is the most respectful overall to give an excuse for a fun fight
It is up to the writer though. Different writers will have different interpretations or views on characters and their strength and portrayal of them. And that’s okay. Makes for a good variety.
@@LaughingOwlKiller even the most battle hardend combat vets with 30-40 years of experience cannot hope to defeat a grizzly bear with just a knife.
Its always fun when they scrap. The 1st time i ever seen it was playing the Ultimate spider-man game.
That NEEDS a remaster btw.👏🏽💯
That's facts
That game on PS2 was literally my childhood
Was looking for this comment VENOM literally absorbs a motorcycle like WHAT
Needs a remaster so bad
Gotta say “Bloody Tears” was a great music choice.
Same thing
I love Castlevania.
but who is it by cuz, i've tried looking for it on here & no version is exactly like this
I heard this in naruto i think
Bloody Tears is always a win!
Wolverine didn't even took Venom seriously lol.
He’s a teacher at xaviers school, Venoms a beast but he’s not exactly bringing anything logan hasn’t seen before.
Don't worry, the comic was BS
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 fair point !
@@FernandoComicsOfficial can I join your discord server again?
@@cosmicnature6801 why you leave it bro ??
Really hard to find good marvel comics like these now-a-days.
Yeah, these are few and far between honestly
Thanks to the sjws. Who’d rather push there far left Marxist agenda then write good stories. Main stream comics are now nothing more than propaganda leaflets yes green arrow and green lighting did that in the 70s but the difference was quality storytelling artwork action and a balanced presentation of views from the left and the right if your gonna throw politics and social issues in the mix that’s the way to do it. Personally I prefer to just be entertained and immersed even educated but not preached and talked down to. I ll just stick to classic stories from the back issue bin
Yeah the writers are to busy turning everyone gay instead of giving us good stories
Ugh... feelings. 😬
@@greyfenrir2238 same which I don’t like because I want straight couples I also want a comic letting people get married like Peter and mj but sense we have still it can’t happen right now without him gone
That’s a nice use of Castlevania’s “Bloody Tears” towards the third quarter of the video.
This one always was great to me, mostly because he’s basically fighting Spider-Man’s version of Sabertooth, Wolvie and Spidey are both small guys with animal themes, whose main villains are basically huge versions of themselves, so having them face each other’s rivals is definitely a fun moment.
Spawn or Darkseid with Pain's theme would be amazing
That's an awesome idea !!
This reminds me of Playing the Boss fight by fighting against Wolverine while playing as Venom in The Ultimate Spider-man Video Game. Loved that Boss Battle.
That exactly what I was thinking. Maybe that's what they got it from?
Any of you ever played the Ultimate Spider-Man PS2 game back in the day where you could play as Spider-Man and Venom. I think Venom’s first boss fight was Wolverine, also at a bar funnily enough.
Honestly, this is pretty good moment for both Venom and Wolverine as characters.
Never a fight that I thought about, but it’s execution was amazing.
Even tho this is inaccurate, i do like the message behind it. Ur not the only one that suffers or have been wronged b4.
I think Logan wouldve really torn into him if this was when he and peter were buddies.
I mean, if we're going by accuracy, then Wolverine wouldn't have been able to even slow Venom down.
As soon as you mentioned that he’s not the only one suffering or has been wronged before, I was thinking of Three Day’s Grace - Riot.
Aren’t him and Peter buddies still?
@@tek512 We know how plot armor in comics work though for popular characters. Reality, Venom beats his ass down but writers do differently all the time.
@@tek512 Are you sure Wolverine have fighted against some really strong guys like Hulk and hold his own! his claws can cut anything!
This wasn’t just humbling. It was a life lesson and one Venom seemed to take. That’s not only impressive (that Wolverine can talk down Venom) but also wise on Venom’s part for allowing those words to stick. Yeah he’s still a jerk but he stopped and thought about it. These panels say a lot about both characters
You could say it was a humbling lesson.
Aah There’s a great comic dub of this battle somewhere on the site. And its a hell of a fight! When wolverine makes that comment about Spiderman being twelve i just imagine the mcu version protesting with a voice crack pfft!
“What are you lookin at?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 bartender shoulda said “a bigole bitch” and had Wolverine still standing in the door looking back like dont even try it🤣
Venom: WE ARE VENOM!
Logan: Ay ay ay, where’s the frickin, gaba-goo?!
wise words from Logan. NEVER, EVER, think or feel that you are the one with the most suffering in this world.
I really hope everyone is doing great out here in their world... haven't been into Wolverine since I was "like 12" so to see this and feel invigorated with the Castlevania music in the background was a Nostalgia overload!!!
"see you later goo"
Well at least he didn't call him parasite...
"PARASITE!?" LMAO.
Wolverine is one of the few characters that can have an overly smug attitude and still be a likeable character
it’s just so believable. He remind me of Vegeta and there’s no way I can hate on that dude
When Venom is in the MCU, they should definitely do this scene. As an Easter egg.
Love the music dude, bloody tears is one of my favorite songs so it was cool to hear it in a video like this 👍
totally off topic but that Castlevania Bloody Tears theme was freaking radical with it all.
I want to see this scene in an MCU film.
Wolverine's own dodging ability and strength is actually pretty under rated , normal grunts whether they be highly trained soldiers or The Hand ninjas actually can't tag him cause of how wild and fast he moves and attacks.
yeah but in all honesty Venom would body Wolverine. he’s been bodied by spider-man a couple of times so i don’t see what he would do to someone like Venom who’s ragdolled spider-man.
@@sideeyed7682 i think this was ultimate universe or a horrible writer
Love this so much. Venom has plenty of reasons to feel aggrieved but Wolverine knows everything he's felt at 10x the magnitude and he's felt the pain he's felt 100-fold. His words probably fell on deaf ears but he's the one guy who can relate to anybody who's been through trauma and his advice is good.
The fact that you used FFXI's Dancing Mad is all I needed to hear 10/10
Yeah, this theme is definitely Orochimaru's, from Naruto. I mean, it's whatever, it still slaps✌🏽😎
So we all just gonna Ignore Goo’s Conscience, *The Shoulder duck* ?
It’s alright, I’da ignore it if belonged in the shot… happy browsing 🤣
Love me my wolverine. But this was a popularity fight. Also love Venom.
This also wasn't a fight to the death, but a narrative fight. Wolverine won because he convinced Venom not to drag the fight on. A real fight to the death could have been different. Or the same. Close fight.
@@Dizastermaster. true true. The stakes have always mattered the most. Did you see Spider-Man destroy Wolvie as the Dr Octopus version Superior Spider-Man?? And spidey and Venom are very close
@@Dizastermaster. Venom would ragdoll him then leave him webbed up when he got bored.
As far as stats are concerned, Wolvie vs Venom is like an experienced 3 year-old with knives vs a heavyweight veteran boxer.
@@Bragglord nailed it. Wolvie is best there is at what he does kinda finished up in 1979. He's too low tech ... love him though
@@Bragglord i agree. Wolverine would lose to Venom the same reason he lost to Spider-Man
Can't believe this channel hadn't shown up in my algorithm till now. Nice work!
I dig the additional effects. Very subtle. Very cool. 🎉
I really liked this, especially since this fight would go nowhere fast as neither one of them can really do anything to keep the other down. So Wolverine is able to talk his way out of the fight, because Wolverine is probably one of the very few people in the Marvel universe that can relate to Venom (Hulk might be another one), he's able to understand first hand what its like to be angry, to be viewed, treated, and feel like a monster, so he gave Venom a chance. No one actually won this fight since again neither one can kill the other, but Wolverine was still able to end the fight by giving Venom a chance, by making him consider if he just wants to be a monster or something else.
I could'nt be bothered to read until i came by this channel. Thanks
Yeah I'm not one for reading comics really. This channel definitely helps animate it at least somewhat which I love
No one going to bring up the duck on Venom's shoulder @3:13?
That duck is the one below all sercretly taking away venoms W😂
Reading a badass comic with Castlevania's Bloody Tears playing in the background. Nice touch.
wow the edited version i seen on twitter made this look a lot better, and the whole thing with your music looks really geay
Lmao Venom thinking he's Wolverine calibur. 💀
Venom is stronger than wolverine
@@pullupenthusiast3800 You could be the world's strongest man, but that won't stop a sword from cutting through them.
@@bluemooninthedaylight8073 makes no sense to cut thru venom he will just heal lol
@@bluemooninthedaylight8073you know he can literally just heal right?
@@humanity600
Yeah. Against the dude who can heal *faster*
Venom is stronger and faster so should have really taken this. Saying that I was still rooting for Logan.
Well if someone like Logan made you doubt what you are doing, your focus in battle will be destroyed. Sure Venom could beat him but Logan can last long enough to make venom feel bad for himself. Thats what I think when I saw this fight.
Venom is a joke compared to The Hulk, who is the one Wolverine struggles with.
@@RedLithic wolverine vs hulk was not close fight anymore ,it used to be close in classic hulk comics, in any modern comic hulk usually treats him like a fodder. Also wolverine kinda works against hulk since he is faster than hulk, his weapon can hurt hulk and he is very durable himself,but venom is basically a counter for wolverine,he is faster, stronger to boot
@@RedLithic Venom is also faster and more versatile than the Hulk, so the comparison holds no weight.
@@Bragglord Wolverine is much faster than he looks. In superior Spider-Man he spit blitzed doc ock who was in Spider-Man’s body. Not to mention his healing factor just makes him a tank.
Apparently everyone's folding venom.
These two are the best and seeing them in a comic together is amazing.
This was really great. The comic, the art, the message, the video with the music. Everything
If he pulled his claws back with venom symbiote on them from stabbing him, wouldn't he get the symbiote into his bloodstream?
But healing factor
Yeah healing factor and doesn't that healing factor also erase a memory of him suffering?
@@GOATTalk-oq2kq Healing factor won't save him from being infected with a symbiote via blood like Carnage.
Lethal protector venom is best venom
Has the scenario been entertained that Venom merges with Logan? That would be a video if it happened.
Didn't something like that happen that involved a Tyrannosaurus symbiote with Old Man Logan?
Ok... I was interested in the title... You got me deeply invested with bloody tears!
Best fkn song ever...
I appreciate the effects my guy, gives the panels life. Very cool, subscribed to this in a heart beat
When venom said that, "ive felt pain you couldnt imagine." All i could think about is when wolverine saved a japanese guy by taking a nuclear blast close range searing all his skin and flesh off to his bone.
Awww. They had a heart to heart.
Love the colors of this comic, reminds me the Seth McFarlane days
Agreed Bovine !!
I think you mean Tod MacFarlane lol
@@foxxykunai5840 how did I even get Seth McFarlane 😂 that's a crime right there
Bloody tears.. an interesting choice that surprisingly works.
Loved this! In one of the older Spider-Man games where you play as venom you blowup a bunch of bikes and Logan walks out of the bar to fight. So similar but also multiverse differences haha
Wolverine gave me major Vegeta vibes
What a Zabuza Naruto moment, it makes no actual sense for Wolverine to beat Venom without using Venom's weaknesses. So instead Venom's just like "Your words cut deeper than any blade." Also I think this is a little bit of a thing that any writer can just make a character win whatever fight they want as long as they want him too.
lol wolverine and Zabuza in fact share the same voice actor, steve bulm as well!
I guess if wolvie fights hulk regularly, he can win against venom
Wolverine is the true definition of badass.
You've come a long way, Eddie
On one hand i'm glad that logan was dropping some wisdom and lessons on eddie/venom but on the other hand this is so glaringly inaccaurate because there is no way venom would lose to wolverine i just cant see it
As far as I'm aware each time they've fought has been a draw or wolverine winning.
@@Rix54A yeah, but it makes no sense. Venom is many times more powerful than Wolverine. So is Spider-man, for that matter, and he's beaten Logan several times without breaking a sweat.
And yet wolverine not only has beaten the hulk before, but in his even weaker elderly state killed an entire civilization of hulk's, and that's not even counting the time they gave him a story line where he kills the entire marvel universe, cause Deadpool wasn't the only one that did that.
Your absolutely right about Wolverine not beating Venom. However, there's one more thing to be said. This wasn't a Victory where Logan won by pure might. It was a Victory earned by reason. If you can't beat em, talk em down the best you can.
@@maxburrill6192 I agree, but for different reasons. You can have all the strength in the world, but it doesn't matter if any blows you deal heal up in seconds and your opponent can go on seemingly forever. Both venom and Wolverine having these abilities makes it so that neither will come out the victor even after they tear each other to shreds.
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As much as I like venom he needed to be taken down a notch and wolverine was the perfect person to do it but I am still team venom here. Plus I like the naruto song playing it takes me back to my childhood.
this is such a badass video, thank you for this! i loved the visuals of venoms spikey tentacles stabbing wolverine
Loved it bro This was awesome:)
Thanks my friend!
@3:13 why did Venom have a duck 🦆 on his shoulder?
Also, wouldn't Wolverine be the perfect host? With his regenerative powers he'd be the never ending, all you can eat buffet!
Yeah that'd be wild if THE Venom stuck to Wolverine
I think they've retconned it so that the symbiote actually stuck to wolverine in the distant past or something
@@Tonystoys721 any idea what eventually made it leave? I mean, Wolverine would feed it for hundreds of years!
@@FernandoComicsOfficial wouldn't it?? Now with the collective mind being a thing for the symbiot, "race", could you JUST imagine the impact Wolverine's mind would have on them?!? 😜
Remember this comic lol funny how popularity comes into play... Venom is smarter, faster and stronger than Logan. Should literally mop the floor with him however it's not what the story calls for 😂
How is a bodybuilding reporter smarter than someone who's been through most major wars for the last hundred years? Not as sure what the symbiote has been up to in fairness.
@@RedLithic the symbiote is billions of years old bro and as of now is the leader of the hive mind I believe too
Venom has had some huge upgrades recently, yes. Not relevant to this particular fight years prior to that though, except anything the symbiote was getting up to before spiderman.
Not a huge fan of the animation you add to some of the actions. The artists already drew it to look dynamic, so the addition of the animation seems forced and awkward imo. Still great work tho and thanks for bringing more awesome comics to us
This
I agree the music brings it to life just enough so that the effects seem out of place
Thank you for the feedback my good man 🙏 I really appreciate it ! No worries though, I'm just barely figuring out what I can do. I'll keep improving!
I love the effects you did with the symbiote attacks
Thanks man !! I'm glad you liked them bro!!
Even to this day when I read comics I always the voices of the 90s animated series. Thanks for the upload 👍
Wolverine wasn't in rage
People who don’t know comics saying Logan couldn’t absolutely mince Venom 😂
I assume a lot of those folk are from the new movies. Although in fairness, and as many have already pointed out, they're both super tanky and have healing factor. If Venom and Wolverine fought legit that's a really rough match up that could last muuuuuch longer. Wolverine was more interested in getting in Brock's head than trying to kill him, which made this fight easier on Venom overall.
He can't trash spiderman so how would he trash venom someone who is on par with him maybe even above?. Spiderman has won most of their fights most times trashing wolverine basically 2 shotting him and then web em up. Now venom someone who throws a harder punch than peter not only that he also has stronger webs and is more ruthless.
@@darrylisaac9400 Peter is more creative, also neither Peter or Logan were going all out.
Spidey can hold up a fucking bus and stop a TRAIN.
He could RIP a person apart like paper mache if he wasn't a boy scout.
Stop low balling spidey
@Mr Sensible Oh the irony!
And now my question to all the real nerds: Is that possible? Can Wolverine stab and hurt Venom? Can he get throught the symbiote? Happy to hear your answers. For me that was a little bit to easy?? But what do i know i stopped reading wolverine in the 90's lol
Answer is no. Venom has been shot time and time again and it does zero damage. At most it has stopped him briefly.
This is very early in Venoms career, it's hard to say honestly. This seems to suggest he's tanky, but with limits. Even then, he got up right after 🙄
@@F3EDER I guess being shot is not the same as being stabbed by wolverine's claws xd
Of course he can cut through the symbiote. He can cut clean through steal. Flesh is easy. He can destroy the host (brocks) organs. This forces the symbiote to focus its biomass to heal the host, this slows it down. With that said does wolverine alone have the ability to kill the host? Damage it beyond repair? No.
But he can slow venom down again again again. Venom cant kill wolverine either. The animantiam cant break, and wolverine heals from catastrophic injury.
These are 2 immovable objects.
So the only battles they could win over eachother is psychological or moral.
This why I love wolverine, man's a straight up badass no matter what situation he is in
Venom talks about his pain, how he has suffered and Wolverine's like "Bub, I've not only been there, I have a PhD."
"You should add the new superman to your intro"
Said nobody ever.