actually yes, especially if your loading a hopper and have a decent distance to travel it makes a huge difference. Plus the new john Deeres have faster hydraulics, in the end the plant site can run faster Time=MONEY!!!!
It is a prototype with a new ZF 5WG210 transmission with converter lockup. Locking the converter increases driveline efficiency by 15 to 20%, hence the quick acceleration.
I have been in the industry for 14 years and have operated Volvos and caterpillars and now have 4 742j john deere loaders and they are going a lot stronger than those other brands ever did
The cat loader will still be running long after the John Deer is melted down for scrap! Cat equipment lasts longer. ive been running equipment for 45 years and Cat makes the best loaders by far. There is more to loaders than drag racing.
I been in it as long as you and ran both....alot. deere and cat both good loaders. Prefer the deere, comfort and visibility As for reliability that's a toss up.
@@millertime8835 Are you for real Even our JD dealer even said if it was not for the fact that the equal cat to expensive the JD couldn't compete on equal terms. The JD wil be rusted out in 10 years.
It took me seeing your comment to understand what I was seeing; the Cat had a strange bounce that I suspect is the motor hitting the limiter and jerking on and off throttle. Still an amusing video though
@19Escort93 Well you see, your comment confuses me.. because this obviously demonstrates the power of both of these machines.. but regardless. I love CAT and Deere.
El 950h es un cargador más pequeño que el 744 deere, el 950h es de 3m3 comparado con 4 o más mt3 del j deere, quizás la comparación sea más pareja con el 962h o 972m de caterpillar.
I love John Deere products but considering there's a large amount of Deere products at whatever event they're at, leads me to believe that this might be a promotion stunt.
I now have 1600 hrs on my 2011 Cat 972H, it's faster than the 966H in the video that's for sure. Deere needs to re do the race with the new Cat K loaders, they are a different animal than the H.
+Manuel Del Angel The John Deere has about 35 more hp, but that really doesn't matter. The gearing of the machines are different allowing for the john deere to be faster. Power doesn't mean much when the gear ratios are different.
Oh come on. The Deere is running All Safety’s Off, and the CAT has speed governor and traction engaged, and is probably racing in third gear. Do people really fall for this stuff?
no this was all out in both machines, you can even see the cat is bouncing around and the Deere is floating, Though Cat is great and I love them Deere just has better drivetrains on all their machines
@Jeffah5 John Deere excavators are pretty much just a re badged Hitachi excavator and Hitachi more than likely builds the best hydrolic excavators in the world.
John Deere and hitachi excavators are the same exact thing they are partners in their excavator programs and sell and build each other’s machines for example all of John Deere’s 0 turn excavators are built in Japan and some hitachi excavators are built in the John Deere factory
I´ve seen Cat 966Hs go way faster (in speed an acceleration) than this. There´s gotta be something wrong with this one. Just take a look at it. Nobody would buy a 966H if it really was that slow.
yo como operador de cargador las tengo bien caladas y la verdad la CAT son muy lentas y se descomponen mas rapidio siempre estan fallando ya no son las mismas de antes...aparte la john deere siempre son mas comodas...
look the reason why john deere beat cat is because it has ride control. look at the cat and how it bounces up and down. now look at the john deere the ride control allows the bucket and the hydrawlics to move up and down and not the body of it. overall GO JOHN DEERE!!!!
with all due respect cat is the best machine ever built , its not about how fast it is its about the endurance and the productivity and notice that the old heavy equipment still working till now its caterpillar
Speed does not matter Did anyone else notice that CAT equipment from about 5 years ago can still work... 1# Deere can't do that 2#NewHolland can't either 3#JCB can't do that either. Don't start hating on me This is my opinion Drum roll please!! CAT EQUIPMENT IS THE BEST
As someone with experience with all of these brands, I'm partial to the Deeres. Our Cat 928s (2010) can't seem to lift what they advertise, blow off hydraulic lines like it's their job, and spend more time in the shop than in service. Meanwhile, our Deere 544s (1989-1992) are still going strong with nothing but a random hydraulic seep here and there. Our JCBs came to us broken, and although they are interesting, they are proving quite unreliable. Our new holland tractors seem to be hit and miss, though the designs are pretty sound, just cheaply executed. I respect the capabilities of all of these manufacturers, but if I was to choose based on my years spent repairing them, I'd have to get a Deere.
GZA PLAY honestly I dont think most people hate CAT, it's just a matter of preference. My experiences haven't been the best with cat, but I know they do make quality products.
CAT Dozer I have operated a few over the years, primarily as a mechanic. We had cat, Deere and JCB excavators. I found the Deere and cat equally capable. The JCB was underpowered for the jobs it was put through
what does this prove? you dont want to haul ass when loading trucks! but i forget just because all the other pieces of equipment are faster i guess that they are better right. ONE OTHER THING YOU DONT SEE CATERPILLAR OUT TRYING TO TELL YOU WHO MUCH BETTER THEY ARE, EVERY ONE WITH A BRAIN ALREADY KNOWS THAT!!!!!!
We rented a CAT 315 Excavator with a hydraulic thumb which is kinda the same as a john deere 160. but the CAT had no balls for thumb pinching power It was a beefy looking machine, but just lacked the balls that my man john deere has. We've ran only John Deere since we bought our first farm tractor in 1952, figured we'd try out other kinds, but I've learned john deere makes the best excavators in my opinion
en mi opinión ese no es un operador de maquinaria pesada. ...se nota que no sabe meter las velocidades del cargador cat ....yo llevo bastante años trabajando con cat y en cuanto a trabajo pesado no tiene comparación. ..y lo digo con bastante experiencia yo trabajo en la gran minería acá en chile y e trabajado con bastante marcas de maquinaria. ..y no se compara con cat. ..
cat have been resting on their laurels too long. ACERT, need a degree to fix/service, good steel in them, but performance/ economy isnt class leading, especially for the money
omg, put a car beside this and the car will win, you dosen,t buy a loader for his speed.If you do, buy a jcb gt, it go to 150 miles per hour.Anyway, everyone know that cat is the best, put a chain between them and the cat will pull the deer.And caterpillar machines aren't cheap and they will worth many years, and john deer loaders are good for the scraps after 2 days.
I run all 3 Cat, Deere, and Volvo. I'd rank Cat #1 - comfortable and powerful.Volvo #2 - durable The Deere sucks. Don't like the bucket tilt design, too much spillage, very uncomfortable and sounds like a school bus so you know it's a gas guzzler
A Cat might be built stronger but Performance wise I think I'd take the Deere
We run them all, when the Volvo and JD are in the shop getting fixed the Cat is still working!!!
I know that when I am looking to buy a new loader I am always most interested in the 0-60 mph ET. Oh, pleeeeze !!!!
actually yes, especially if your loading a hopper and have a decent distance to travel it makes a huge difference. Plus the new john Deeres have faster hydraulics, in the end the plant site can run faster Time=MONEY!!!!
It is a prototype with a new ZF 5WG210 transmission with converter lockup. Locking the converter increases driveline efficiency by 15 to 20%, hence the quick acceleration.
I have been in the industry for 14 years and have operated Volvos and caterpillars and now have 4 742j john deere loaders and they are going a lot stronger than those other brands ever did
Kangara farmer
The cat loader will still be running long after the John Deer is melted down for scrap! Cat equipment lasts longer.
ive been running equipment for 45 years and Cat makes the best loaders by far. There is more to loaders than drag racing.
I been in it as long as you and ran both....alot. deere and cat both good loaders. Prefer the deere, comfort and visibility As for reliability that's a toss up.
@@millertime8835 Are you for real Even
our JD dealer even said if it was not for the fact that the equal cat to expensive the JD couldn't compete on equal terms. The JD wil be rusted out in 10 years.
@Jeffah5
you run a john deere 160?
mind you, that's just a Hitachi ZX180...
so action packed!
@sgtdicko the ones we build have boom suspension. works equally well.
Cat and Jhon Deere American proudly 🇺🇸 🇺🇸🇺🇸👍💪
A fiver says theres a speed limiter on the cat.
It took me seeing your comment to understand what I was seeing; the Cat had a strange bounce that I suspect is the motor hitting the limiter and jerking on and off throttle. Still an amusing video though
@19Escort93 exactly!!!!!
nice one man
It may be faster, but a few shots and it'll be U/E.
You can shoot at a Cat all day and it'll still run.
This is why I like John Deere.
the thing is that the movie was made in 2009 , by now , that same cat still doing "drag races" , mean while the deere is in a pile of junk .
A Deere simplesmente " Esculachou todas suas concorrentes " nestes testes.
Só perde na força
@19Escort93 Well you see, your comment confuses me.. because this obviously demonstrates the power of both of these machines.. but regardless. I love CAT and Deere.
Exactly!! They are much faster.
El 950h es un cargador más pequeño que el 744 deere, el 950h es de 3m3 comparado con 4 o más mt3 del j deere, quizás la comparación sea más pareja con el 962h o 972m de caterpillar.
I love John Deere products but considering there's a large amount of Deere products at whatever event they're at, leads me to believe that this might be a promotion stunt.
@19Escort93 You must have the 1:39 race in mind, right. Ah...no...oh Dear ;)
Good ol Deere John
It would be interesting to see the fuel burn on each.
the deere 944 is a hybrid so burns less fuel than a cat 988
Its a JD Demo day so I could be rigged
I now have 1600 hrs on my 2011 Cat 972H, it's faster than the 966H in the video that's for sure. Deere needs to re do the race with the new Cat K loaders, they are a different animal than the H.
972m operator here the thing hauls ass for sure it’s an excellent machine
Looks like the cat was limited to 2nd gear. I could be wrong but that's what it looks like.
@s7600 nothing runs like a deere when a cats on its tail
Komatsu 470 ❤️👍
Look at that John Deere loader
That cat is obviously malfunctioning, cat has more power and is around the same speed as the Deere. My favorite though, the Volvo
+Manuel Del Angel The John Deere has about 35 more hp, but that really doesn't matter. The gearing of the machines are different allowing for the john deere to be faster. Power doesn't mean much when the gear ratios are different.
Go caterpillar!
Oh come on. The Deere is running All Safety’s Off, and the CAT has speed governor and traction engaged, and is probably racing in third gear. Do people really fall for this stuff?
no this was all out in both machines, you can even see the cat is bouncing around and the Deere is floating, Though Cat is great and I love them Deere just has better drivetrains on all their machines
@Jeffah5 John Deere excavators are pretty much just a re badged Hitachi excavator and Hitachi more than likely builds the best hydrolic excavators in the world.
John Deere and hitachi excavators are the same exact thing they are partners in their excavator programs and sell and build each other’s machines for example all of John Deere’s 0 turn excavators are built in Japan and some hitachi excavators are built in the John Deere factory
with the right gear ratio, allot can be done
Well I know which wheel loader I'm gonna have to buy
cat is made for work john deere is made for little kids to play with
I´ve seen Cat 966Hs go way faster (in speed an acceleration) than this. There´s gotta be something wrong with this one.
Just take a look at it. Nobody would buy a 966H if it really was that slow.
@s7600 expecaily when a cats chasing it lol
deere all the way
K series John Deere is a way newer model than the H series Cat!!!! Show the hours on both machines!!!!
yo como operador de cargador las tengo bien caladas y la verdad la CAT son muy lentas y se descomponen mas rapidio siempre estan fallando ya no son las mismas de antes...aparte la john deere siempre son mas comodas...
Aynı testi volvo, hitaçi, kawasaki newhollandla da yaparmisiniz.
I personally run an 824K and I'm telling you that John Deere is turn way up I can't get my 824 to even hint a puff of smoke
Thats cause that loader in the video isnt a tier 4, its a j model so it doesnt have a def system
I don't operate heavy machinery like this, I know people who do. But you mean to tell me a deer can outrun a cat while the deer is in reverse??
look the reason why john deere beat cat is because it has ride control. look at the cat and how it bounces up and down. now look at the john deere the ride control allows the bucket and the hydrawlics to move up and down and not the body of it. overall GO JOHN DEERE!!!!
cat's obviously holding more
John deere é imbatível na tecnologia, cat só tem preço e fama
Em transportar trabalho duro não há como gatos
I like john deere myself but like the old saying goes nothing runs like a deere with a cat on its ass
Cats are built for power deeres are built to outrun that cat that's gonna beat it's ass. Nothin runs like a Deere with a cat on it's ass
Deere Loader's are built to lift!
El operador del cat es inexperto
Cat beater
Cat 💛💛💛
@19Escort93 That's about the stupidest thing I've heard so far this year!
John Deere is the best thing cat
Deere's actually improved alot. I prefer their loaders and tracked skid loaders over Cat anyday.
Deere👏👏👏👏👏
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for me cat is the best!!!
For me Deere is the best!!!
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with all due respect cat is the best machine ever built , its not about how fast it is its about the endurance and the productivity and notice that the old heavy equipment still working till now its caterpillar
except that the last 7 or 8 years there quality has really dipped off
roy farhat / that is because Deere didnt make construction equipment back then.
True
roy farhat speed is production
Speed does not matter
Did anyone else notice that CAT equipment from about 5 years ago can still work...
1# Deere can't do that
2#NewHolland can't either
3#JCB can't do that either.
Don't start hating on me
This is my opinion
Drum roll please!!
CAT EQUIPMENT IS THE BEST
As someone with experience with all of these brands, I'm partial to the Deeres. Our Cat 928s (2010) can't seem to lift what they advertise, blow off hydraulic lines like it's their job, and spend more time in the shop than in service. Meanwhile, our Deere 544s (1989-1992) are still going strong with nothing but a random hydraulic seep here and there. Our JCBs came to us broken, and although they are interesting, they are proving quite unreliable. Our new holland tractors seem to be hit and miss, though the designs are pretty sound, just cheaply executed. I respect the capabilities of all of these manufacturers, but if I was to choose based on my years spent repairing them, I'd have to get a Deere.
Why does everyone hate CAT so much
GZA PLAY honestly I dont think most people hate CAT, it's just a matter of preference. My experiences haven't been the best with cat, but I know they do make quality products.
Have you operated an excavator before
I'm just curious
CAT Dozer I have operated a few over the years, primarily as a mechanic. We had cat, Deere and JCB excavators. I found the Deere and cat equally capable. The JCB was underpowered for the jobs it was put through
The deer just has a bigger pump. the cat engine is stronger
cat is always the best
John Deere is the winner 🥇🏅🏆
If you want to run by formula 1 but for work only cat..
what does this prove? you dont want to haul ass when loading trucks! but i forget just because all the other pieces of equipment are faster i guess that they are better right. ONE OTHER THING YOU DONT SEE CATERPILLAR OUT TRYING TO TELL YOU WHO MUCH BETTER THEY ARE, EVERY ONE WITH A BRAIN ALREADY KNOWS THAT!!!!!!
Look at that John Deere loader go he’s faster
Máquinas Caterpillar foram feitas para trabalhar e fazer força... não para corrida.
Uma máquina ligeira rende o trampo
Cat never win to Deere in velocity
cat is always the best the fault of the cat is the driver
Deere win
hahahaha look at 1 min 13 johndeere rockes
e só mentira
o cara da caterpillar nem pisa na maquina
Thiago maquinas ne que terra isso dai eh vdd
Charles Ataide bem estranho mesmo
q qui tu acha kkkk
Trabalho na Caterpillar já dirigi essa carregadeira, e anda muito mais que isso
ok. :D
John Deere wins 🥇🏅🏆
jajaja la maquina de deere tieien mas capacidad de caballos
@19Escort93
You see in 2:00 what power have deere and what cat
I think Deere is the best!
We rented a CAT 315 Excavator with a hydraulic thumb which is kinda the same as a john deere 160. but the CAT had no balls for thumb pinching power It was a beefy looking machine, but just lacked the balls that my man john deere has. We've ran only John Deere since we bought our first farm tractor in 1952, figured we'd try out other kinds, but I've learned john deere makes the best excavators in my opinion
Se nota que la cat esta mas vieja 😂
en mi opinion deere es mucho mas rapida fuerte comoda y en precio mas eco. cat solo es nombre en sus tiempos las mejores hoy dia naaaaa solo nombre
en mi opinión ese no es un operador de maquinaria pesada. ...se nota que no sabe meter las velocidades del cargador cat ....yo llevo bastante años trabajando con cat y en cuanto a trabajo pesado no tiene comparación. ..y lo digo con bastante experiencia yo trabajo en la gran minería acá en chile y e trabajado con bastante marcas de maquinaria. ..y no se compara con cat. ..
i dont think speeding around a consturction site is anyway safe!
The Deere does have 175 more foot pounds of torque and another 30-40 horespower. What did you expect?
950M goop
Congratulations John Deere you are the best then any other machine John Deere is faster stronger and has the civility John Deere is the best then cat
cat have been resting on their laurels too long. ACERT, need a degree to fix/service, good steel in them, but performance/ economy isnt class leading, especially for the money
John Deere is faster then cat
When I need a loader that needs to act like a
3cu yd scraper I will give Deere a call !
omg, put a car beside this and the car will win, you dosen,t buy a loader for his speed.If you do, buy a jcb gt, it go to 150 miles per hour.Anyway, everyone know that cat is the best, put a chain between them and the cat will pull the deer.And caterpillar machines aren't cheap and they will worth many years, and john deer loaders are good for the scraps after 2 days.
DEERE SOLO ES VELOS PERO N RENDE EN TRABAJOS EN ALTURA O BARRO CAT SII LENTO PERO PERO para to terreno
well let me tell you when i ride my simese kitty cat all it does is meoww, wonder why? but when i ride a deer, it takes it right in the ass.
el cat le dejo ganar a deere si se~ol
El cat es mas rapido
noting run like john deere!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is so not surprising sorry cat but deer got it going on
i buy a loader for loading, not drag racing.
Nothing runs like a deere, lol
I run all 3 Cat, Deere, and Volvo.
I'd rank
Cat #1 - comfortable and powerful.Volvo #2 - durable
The Deere sucks. Don't like the bucket tilt design, too much spillage, very uncomfortable and sounds like a school bus so you know it's a gas guzzler
I agree
Nothing Runs Like A Deere...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
É só farça se mi desse essa cat eu ia faser a deere comer
Barro
Mais demora kkk
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