Topspin Forehand 3rd Shot Drop - How to hit an offensive 3rd shot drop (Advanced)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ต.ค. 2024
- Want to be more aggressive on your 3rd shot drops? Learn how to hit a topspin 3rd shot drop like the pros...here's how its done...
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With a traditional 3rd shot drop, you are only going to neutralize the point at best.
But, what if you hit your 3rd shot drop and have it put pressure on your opponent to the point that by the time you get up the NVZ line, you may even have the opportunity to be offensive on the very next shot.
That’s where the topspin 3rd shot drop comes in. We are seeing this shot being used more and more on the 3rd shot by the pros and it is extremely effective when done well.
Currently, you see a topspin 3rd shot being hit almost exclusively using a forehand because it is far easier to execute than on the backhand.
In this video, we break down the components for an extremely effective 3rd shot topspin drop that will have your opponents in lots of trouble on the 4th shot.
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Love the slow mo and the captiond
Great, I like doing slo mo and will keep doing it where it makes sense.
Love the slow motion and captions! This will help.
Glad it helps :)
Super video. And the other benefit is you can attack balls with the same paddle position and motion. Soft drive and/or a hard drive when the situation calls for it
Love the instruction and written notes on the video. (helps me make my own written "how to" notes) Also love that you provide a drill to master this shot. Very helpful. Thanks!
Awesome!
Been working on this shot for a few weeks... great tips Jordan, thanks....
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Great video Jordan, can't wait to do these drills... Thank you
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John C
Excellent video! Starting the 3rd shot drop topspin drill from the NVZ line, getting the feel of the shot and working back to the baseline is a great idea! Will add it to my drill routine starting today. Thanks!
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You do an awesome job explaining everything thank you for your knowledge
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The PB pro at out local club, Suzanne Barr, is a master of this shot. Very effective.
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Solid video 👍🏻
Thx!
This is my favorite video of yours! ;)
Don’t be biased Paul! 😀
I love the slow motion with text overlays...should add one more though: "Paddle spin optional" :-) Thanks for the awesome videos! (EDIT: Dag...someone already mentioned the paddle spin. I see now it's VERY necessary...)
Yes! Lol
Like this video! I would like to see how you move to the kitchen line after the shot.
Great video. Seems to me from watching the video, not mentioned in the commentary, that the topspin is mostly produced by flexing the elbow, rather than bringing the entire arm forward as in a typical drop shot?
Yes, but starts with the “brushing” up motion in rotating your wrist.
Jordan, As always well done. The question I have is when you get closer to the net do you maintain the Eastern Grip. An instructor told me to go back to the continental or risk hitting the ball into the net. What are your thoughts? Thank you, Dom
That’s right. At least that’s what I tend to do. As you approach the net, you should be looking for a ball to attack or defend. Having a continental grip is the best standard grip to be ready for both of these, especially when your not sure you will hit a FH or a BH.
Great video but what grip do you recommend? Eastern or continental? Thanks
For topspin...Eastern.
Is the paddle spin after the shot optional? :)
VERY necessary 😊
Really well done Jordan! I note that you are hitting the ball on it's way down after the bounce rather than at the peak or as it is heading up. Is this intentional to make the agressive drop work better or just how the shots went as you videoed since nothing was said? Thanks in any case...off to practice!
I think around knee height is a good place to contact the ball. It will definitely vary, and won’t be the same every single time. The brushing up motion creates the topspin, which is why contacting low and following through high, creates that spin.
Is that the Elite Pro Maverick you're using...? Just went to an EngagePickleball camp this Saturday and out of all the paddles I tried, had to take home that one. Great drives, you can easily put spin on the ball, and it's thick enough to still have that precision for the short-game and put-aways. Was planning on using it more for Singles, but that's not to say it's not a weapon in Doubles...
Yes love that paddle. Now I use the encore MX 6.0. Love that as well. I think it has a softer feel.
@@primetimepickleball Almost ended up getting that one, it was certainly my second choice. Only one reason I didn't pick it--I wanted something that'd be kind of the opposite of my go-to paddle (Selkirk Amped Epic), which was extremely soft and doesn't have the best spin. The Elite Pro Maverick to me was a perfect "opposite" for my playing, since it was still thick but was more power and spin oriented than thick, feel paddles.
Great choice!! 😊
Watching the video the balls coming to you are slow moving and look to have little spin. I understand you are demonstrating but my problems occur when team receiving serve returns hard, deep, with lots of spin (not so much on easy returns). Could you try to show your third shots against harder returns of serve? For example setting up are you trying to take ball on rise or on the fall? How do you counter your opponents spin? Also how about backhand third shot with topspin? Really enjoy your tips, keep them coming!
I would not choose to hit a topspin drop if the returner hit a great return with lots of spin. Instead, I would hit an underspin or slice drop, or maybe even drive the ball. This is the way that you can counter their spin. Also, you definitely never want to hit a 3rd shot on the rise, that just makes it a lot harder on you. Hit it close to the peak of the arc for the easiest shot. We have other videos on the third shot drop, and we will be making more for sure. Thanks for watching!
Do you recommend a certain grip to your students for this shot?
Eastern or semi-western
So, when you do the drill from the net to the baseline, how are you adjusting your stroke to hit it further as your distance increases? Are you adjusting only one variable of the stroke?
Great question! You will need to lengthen your follow through and speed up your swing to get the ball going the extra distance. You can also be more aggressive with your swipe up the back of the ball to add additional spin when you have more space to work with.
What grip are you using for this? Continental?
Eastern or edging more semi-western. NOT continental. Tough to execute topspin out of continental.
@@primetimepickleball thanks. do you switch grip then a bit just like in tennis? Almost have to use continental at the net right?
I hit this shot all the time beings I’m seasoned tennis player, Problem is it bounces too high, which allowed seasons player to drive return or create weak return. Very good when you’re pulled off court at net and angle it crosses court. Where the spin now to you’re advantage
Lots of the pros use topspin drops very effectively without worrying about being punished by the next ball. Not sure why your drops are sitting up that high, as a good topspin drop is very hard to attack. If a good topspin drop is executed, then that usually creates a very low contact point for the person at the net. Check out Ben Johns, he uses this shot all the time.
I found with the Topspin Drop you have to be even faster to get to the NVZ.
Depending on how you hit it, it may travel a bit faster than a regular drop. Although it can open up many offensive opportunities!! 😊
what grip are u using for it?
Eastern Forehand or Semi-western or somewhere in between. Helps get that paddle face more closed which is what you need on this shot.
That’s. Second shot is coming a lot faster than ThAT
Backhand?
That’s tough! Maybe in a future video 😊
Jason: No disrespect intended. Why not have your drill partner, Danny, exhibit proper form: ready position, bent knees, paddle up, take your ball out of air if possible, like a real game, rather than paddle down , straight legs, weight going backwards with each stroke?
First off, not sure who Jason is. Second, Danny is a 5.0 player. May have been a little tired; you can’t judge someone off of one video.