Steve, I’m gonna have the power through this because this is very hard to listen to let alone watch. brother thank you for all the work that you do for the body.
From my experience being in a prosperity and wof church in the mid 80s...they 100% BELIEVE in these misguided beliefs....IF you doubt even for a minute it's because the devil or a demon is attempting to deceive you...cruel cruel trap!
According to Scripture, it’s both. Here’s your answer: 2 Timothy 3:13 (NKJV) But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.
This is bringing back too many bad memories... This is spiritual garbage. This is poison and death. This makes me so very anger, this empty deception and years of my life lost in this muck
No it’s not lost I was involved in a cult and now God can use us both to warn others NOTHING is wastes with really but angry at the deceiver himself you bet but remember Christ had conquered him on the cross xxxxxx
So much spiritual abuse in the charismatic world, I grew up chasing experiences in churches like that and it makes me so angry to see them still pulling this garbage
We just got out after 30 years and this still infuriates me to watch. We were so Biblically inept. Thank God for opening our eyes. We still have family and “friends” in there that won’t even speak to us anymore because we tried to share the Bible with them and they are ALL ABOUT EXPERIENCE!!! No biblical discernment whatsoever. From the music to the false teachings
@@misfitnicholeI had the same experience for about 6 years in AG church. Some very biblically inept people there, always looking for the emotional experience, and listening to any false teaching just to feel it. It was disappointing to see people believing anything they were told. I could not reason with them from the scriptures that literally refuted most of what they were believing in.
What proof is there?? Also I have NEVER heard that she has a yacht but even if she did, why is prosperity bad when poverty is of hell? Do you know how many years this lady has sacrificed selflessly amongst the poor of third world countries? She has laid her life down for God & the poor & children. How dare anyone judge her!
She also has a pretty condescending view of the people of Mozambique as if they were just happy little puppies thrilled that Mama Heidi has shown up up just for them
Where do you get that from? She never spoke down to them or made it sound as though they were beneath her. Also she is NOT worth 2 million. On their website, all their financials are openly posted. She has laid her life down to serve others and yes her ministry gets donations bc ppl see their good fruit. While all things like this do is divide the body of Christ.
I'm a little sensitive to when white people do cross-cultural ministry and describe the people among whom they work in almost exclusively terms that would make you think that not one of them was a functioning adult. And this comes from my own experience of having worked cross-culturally for more than a decade in the 90s, seeing the people I worked with being thought of in the eyes of others as uniformly adorable, happy, hard-working, laughing, grateful, and full of endless good cheer it's an unconscious way of treating others as not full equals, and while I have zero doubt at all that Heidi Baker's motives are pure, however questionable her theology, I wish someone would come alongside her and explain this
@@keelyemerine-mix1051 You're so right. Its not worth the criticism they receive that's why all missionaries should abandon their countries and focus on their own nation and people. Theres enough resources online and in the Bible itself to raise up plenty of Godly people without white people to dedicate their lives to a foreign land that will just draw criticism for their efforts, such as being called racist or offending with some sort of micro aggressions, who knows. I'm positive theres enough hurting and starving people within their own borders, they shouldn't bother them anymore. I'm personally still waiting for the Mozambique born Christians to come and bring the word of God to godless communities like here in San Francisco!
And did you notice she talks about driving a Range Rover? Expensive, high maintenance vehicle. Hardly an appropriate vehicle for the middle of nowhere - unless they have their own private mechanic. Still, It doesn’t seem as though they’re living in any kind of discomfort.
Cameroon campus reporting!!! But this people are scary though!! Thanks for always keeping tabs and warning us accordingly Steve. God bless and keep you and Paulette!!❤
When my husband was dying of cancer, his dad took him to a church in Toronto where Baker was speaking. He wanted to be prayed for to be healed. She walked past him in the prayer line. Completely ignored him. He felt so rejected. Like God had rejected him. My father in law is a strong Christian, lifelong servant, smart man, but he is 100% in the NAR. Its such a sad moment for me to imagine the hurt she caused him that day. He is whole now, with the Lord.
@@FreedomAndJustice4All What do you think the third person of the Godhead would possibly say to this woman to cause her to ignore a sick man wanting God to heal him, leading him to believe that God is ignoring him too? Thank you for your time, I'm very interested in your answer.
@kathyd456 It's happened to me & didn't get bitter or let it isolate me from the body, I just took it to God in prayer & had someone else pray for me. I've also heard of this happening to other people; they were so anxious to get prayer from a minister with a big following, and then were crushed when that person walked past them in the prayer line. In one case, Holy Spirit told the person that they were to keep walking bc there was an undue emphasis on the minister, bc they were being idolized by the person. God might have wanted to move through someone else & not the "celebrity minister." Or God may have already healed the person so he told the minister "keep going." There could be many possible reasons as every situation & person is different. Remember even Jesus did not fulfill every request asked of him, and oftentimes not in the way ppl were anticipating. And the Word says some couldn't be prayed for or healed bc of their "lack of faith". And it's ALWAYS God's will to heal so that is a hard concept for us humans to accept.
Wow. The 'sermon' itself is worse than the 'impartation' that follows. She took a messianic passage from the OT and made it all about herself and her audience. She missed the point of the passage entirely.
I was in this delusion for years it is hard to watch and listen to. Yet I’m glad the false Jesus the false super apostles liars are being revealed. Thank you.
12 minutes is incredible stamina - I’m at 5.25 mins and have to pause it for relief, absolute cringing, I’m only hanging in there hoping the Kozars light relief don’t tell me this is 2 hours plus uncut version of this. It should come with a warning.
Notice Heidi the Baker didn’t ask the mom in labor - if it was ok to speed things up! I know first hand How painful that is. She says Bam! Ugh. How is that experience HER call???She is so Arrogant! And it wasn’t HER baby to run that show!! She took over IF we can believe one single word out of her mouth. She is also telling us how Very important she is. She must catch that plane. Her schedule packed with God activities. Would Not want to be near her on Judgement Day 😮
Thank you. To use another woman’s birth story as clout as just filthy. (Especially her OWN daughter!) And how does a “missionary” to Africa not understand more about the birth? No, this a dangerous narcissist with a Cult of Personality.
I think Sheik Edeeyeah used to be a great pro wrestler my favourite memories were when he faced off against Shandalay Bobo - man those were some anointed battles.
It’s an eye-opener to read this in the transcript! Disordered speech present with flight of ideas, racing thoughts, impulsive activity, attention to unimportant details, pressured speech, and grandiosity. This woman isn’t well and needs to be evaluated by a psychiatrist. 😬🙏🙏
@@FreedomAndJustice4All And actually I’m reporting what I see as a long follower of Christ using critical thinking. This movement wants people to suspend reason and this is how cults form; always some truth, which is the hook. Study the life of Jim Jones who started out in The Assembly of God church. False teachers want to introduce confabulated facts in the name of super spirituality to entice naïve people into false hope. It’s a clear abuse of power and group think.
I love that you are posting this!!! I remember the first time I saw this video. It is gut wrenching knowing people who follow Heidi Baker and Bethel. Hearing the young man scream just tares me up every time.
She’s asking for fire, and he is writhing like he is on fire. Did he need deliverance and she and those around her didn’t do anything about it? That is not what the Holy Spirit looks like. Was he receiving something from her? What happened when they took him away?
It looks as though she realized that what was happening to him was not good, and she tried to stop it by putting her hand on his chest. I’m thinking that at that moment what she did was not of God. But she had to keep talking - indifference ? Absolutely - but also shocked by unintended consequences.
If someone "commanded " my cervix to go from 1 to 10cm dilated in an instant so they could catch a plane, there would never be a time in that person's life they needed Jesus more than in that moment in that room with me 😂
Somewhere someone somehow totally confused this woman about Who GOD is and what is authentic worship. And she opens the Bible and reads and proclaims,s the Gospel but is completely blind to its rendering or meaning. Finally, how does one talk so long and say absolutely nothing.
I noticed the trend of using daddy and mama in the NAR. It's as though they used to make the argument that "call no man father" was literal, so they started using daddy as a loophole
1 Samuel 19:23-24 (KJV) And he went thither to Naioth in Ramah: and the Spirit of God was upon him also, and he went on, and prophesied, until he came to Naioth in Ramah. And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?
@@johnnyplunkett8532 What part of that described Saul writhing and wailing on the ground? I'll give you a hint: it doesn't. Scripture describes that exclusively when it describes demon possession. I also don't see anyone there actually prophesying.
@@johnnyplunkett8532 Not to mention CONTEXT! This was as Saul was walking in disobedience to God, hunting for David's life. So yeah, nothing about this video is Scriptural.
@@johnnyplunkett8532 False , this is referring to Saul who was a false prophet, who went to a soothsayer for answers. Soothsayers are the work of the Devil. Plus the spirit did not exist until Jesus was crucified.
Shakababa is the name of a Hindu God. Google it It's frightening that of these Charasmatics with all their gifts, do not see the deception behind it all😢
@cynthiar7350 Search Shaka and Baba as separate words. It's all to do with Hinduism. There is a hindu god called Shaka and baba is the term for old man nmbut all linked to Hinduism. There is nothing to do with Christianity in Shaka or Baba. Anyone who uses these or similar words like Shay ka baba are totally deceived in thinking the Holy Spirit has given them these words.
Also; Shaka is the Japanese name for the historical Buddha Shakyamuni. The Buddha is identified by several auspicious marks or physical traits called lakshanas that symbolize his state of enlightenment. The ushnisha (the cranial bump) symbolizes the “expanded wisdom” the Buddha attained at the time of his enlightenment. So nothing to do with Christianity
She is worth $2 million dollars. What missionary do you know is super wealthy? After this two hours of nonsense I just keep wonder what she is a missionary of??? She doesn’t share the gospel whatsoever.
@@MichaelHathaway-hj3vo Clearly she is using only a fraction of her donations for feeding the poor. Kinda like Kenneth Coipeland. You know, the guy who crowned her as "Queen of Heaven." If you think she is not a scammer, then nobody can talk any sense into you.
I absolutely love how Kris Vallotton gets up from the floor, waits a few seconds then lays back down!? Really bro!? To think I used to be deep into this garbage.
I felt so bad for this young man. It pains me to see him on the floor like he was suffering. I hope he comes to Christ and gets real salvation through Jesus Christ. It'll be interesting to see how he is today
Ppl sometimes exaggerate manifestations to "look cool" or look super spiritual. I've seen ppl do it. It might have been God, maybe not. It's between him and God
just found this , im a christian and up to about 14 minutes, and i could be wrong but whats she going on about she's demanding declaring ,,, what or who,, it surely cant be God ( like she says she believes in) how can she demand God, its HIS will be done.
I have NEVER heard that she has a yacht but even if she did, why is prosperity bad when poverty is of hell?? Do you know how many years this lady has sacrificed selflessly amongst the poor of third world countries? She has laid her life down for God & the poor & children. How dare anyone judge her!
@@FreedomAndJustice4Allwhere do you get the idea poverty is of hell? Jesus and His apostles were poor. Being wealthy is not a bad thing but she made her wealth swindling the people from those 3rd world counties she’s supposedly serving. She’s has no business being in a pulpit and she doesn’t have the theological knowledge to be a missionary
I like how she casually uses the number 33 for the years of ministry and while she’s saying it she’s throwing up that satanic gang sign. It may be unintentional but all of them do it that serve the devil.
She had her Bible open the whole time, read just a very short section of Gods Word and then went off on stories/lies from her notes the whole time. The only ones getting rich, are the ones leading this cult.
Exactly! Maybe he’s embarrassed, maybe he has left the complete Christian faith along with this heretical teaching, maybe “they” paid him to keep silent? 🤫 😞we do not know. My prayer is that God saved him and called him out of this heretical nonsense 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@user-wl9sk4vc4j IKR? But I think that young man was having a real experience. Demonic? Getting in touch with past trauma? Probably both, I bet. So awful.
As much as this video brings painful memories of how deceived we were,..we have to be grateful to not be in that anymore. we have to be prepared, this is nothing compared to what is coming. the greatest deception of all. may the Lord keep us, and may we grow in understanding everyday.
Steve, I have a new appreciation for what you do for us! When you and Paulette "hit the bar" and make me laugh, it makes this more bearable. I'm not even 30 minutes in yet and want to be done!!!!
I thank the good Lord for His grace & mercy in bringing me out of this stuff. Praying for others eyes to be opened & especially that young man, every time I see this it breaks my heart. I couldn't watch most of the video, scrolled thru quickly. Thanks for putting this up, hopefully people will question what they are believing and get back to the Holy Word of God.
She's definitely one of the characters from Rugrats - "asposed to be..." I managed twenty minutes and then smashed my monitor. Really don' t know how you do this, Steve! Really appreciate you though.
Man! Kudos to you, Steve, L4T, JP and a few others for torturing yourselves on our behalf by suffering through these videos in order to teach and keep us informed of these hairy-tics. It’s brutal to sit through a long video such as this! Gotta split it up into segments. Thanks for your efforts!! P.S. Love your long vids! There’s just too much Heidi in this one but nevertheless, I’ll get through this one.
My heart breaks, and im honestly in tears right now, for the people listening to her. Gospel not even mentioned, until around 1:25:00(briefly) Just a selfish-based "sermon" 💔 So many red flags here🚩🚩, its incredibly sad.
Other channel that won't be named: "Your criticism of female pastor or charismatic abuse is irrelevant. Look at the fruit." Me, looking at the wandering and meaningless stories, the people screaming like they're on fire, and drunken behavior: "..."
Funniest thing: Baker said she arrived with $30 in her pocket. I thought, "I'm surprised she didn't say $33." Her next statement? "It was 33 years ago..." She's on the payroll. End of story. Make no mistake. Just like Jim Morrison, Heidi Baker isn't a showman - she's a shaman.
Saying 33 while showing 666 sign... 1:21:56 and right after showing the Baphomet salut, also known as rock-'n'-roll sign - the witch knows what she's doing!
They think "holy spirit" is some kind of force that gives supernatural experiences, gives them everything they want and does their bidding. It bothers me, too. It is surely not the Holy Spirit of God as described in the Bible.
every time i see that young man convulse & shake it breaks my heart. I think it's demonic possession & he's in terrible pain. Makes me hope oh please God save him! Hope it scared many there & many watching. thank you for keeping this video up.
I was at Bethel at this time and most likely I was in this service and would rather not relive it! I’m jumping off early. I can’t! Thank God I have left the WOF/NAR circus. I have new found peace and freedom getting away from it all.
truly curious: do you still pray in tongues for your own personal time, or, after a time of 'pause' (and recovery from the experience) do you more 'carefully' practice a few generic charismatic expressions? How has your recalibration to the Gospel & God been ?
I've managed to put up with this for 17 min 50 secs admittedly whilst downloading some sermon audio . Not able to continue but I'm glad that you have got the copy of the deleted video.
@@Orquet-qj2nf Use the "correct word" rather than the "polite word"... Love it! I finally have vindication! I am going to unloose on white American evangelicalism!
Thank you for posting this. I’ll read the transcript below as listening to her gets on my last nerve. 😡💀🤕
same. I couldn't watch her
Steve, I’m gonna have the power through this because this is very hard to listen to let alone watch. brother thank you for all the work that you do for the body.
I second that. I'm 5 min in and my stomach is turning each time she opens her mouth. This is mysticism and has nothing to do with Christ.
Amen!!!!!
My feelings too.
I often wonder whether she is simply deluded herself, or whether she knows she is a total fraud.
From my experience being in a prosperity and wof church in the mid 80s...they 100% BELIEVE in these misguided beliefs....IF you doubt even for a minute it's because the devil or a demon is attempting to deceive you...cruel cruel trap!
From my experiences from when I was in the chrasmatic movement, and was in her meetings, she for sure drinks her own cool aid..
According to Scripture, it’s both. Here’s your answer:
2 Timothy 3:13 (NKJV) But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.
Nooo sorry. She’s gotta know she’s a nut. They like the cash. Triggers me how long I hung out with people who fake-duck angels and yell. Nut case. 🎉
@@MemeingInTheMadnessThat's what I thought! Thanks for the Scripture.
"sermon" = "I me me I I I me I me I me me I I I me I me you me I I me me."
Her F4F podcast update music should have been Toby Keith!!
Hey, don't be unfair. You can't overlook the magnanimous "we" that gets in there sometimes.
@@darthnocturnis3941 🤣🤣
Yeah!!
She spoke forever, and said nothing of the gospel or sound scripture, just anecdotes that can't be verified.
This is bringing back too many bad memories... This is spiritual garbage. This is poison and death. This makes me so very anger, this empty deception and years of my life lost in this muck
yes, I am so sorry. Me too for a few years. I couldn't watch it.
What's the difference between this and what's in the Bible.
The Bible is full of these ridiculous demonstrations of supernatural nonsense
No it’s not lost I was involved in a cult and now God can use us both to warn others NOTHING is wastes with really but angry at the deceiver himself you bet but remember Christ had conquered him on the cross xxxxxx
@@oflunrazeuqram
Well the difference is obvious if you were to actually read the Bible. I pray you try that 🙏✝️
Amen my sister Fran! I can’t watch this video, she disturbs me too much. Love you sis and hope you are well🙏✝️
Heidi Baker's favorite person to listen to is Heidi Baker.
"Drama Queen!"
That's right
@@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch Drama Queen of Heaven.
Whoooooooaaaaaaa. More Lord. More Lord. More Loooooooorrrrrrd. Shay Kay Ba Ba.
"LEGACYYY. LEGACYYY. LEGACYYY."
So much spiritual abuse in the charismatic world, I grew up chasing experiences in churches like that and it makes me so angry to see them still pulling this garbage
Praise Him you got out xxx
I did too. The manipulation and power of suggesting had me constantly questioning myself. I no longer go to church. I feel so abused by it all.
@@Kirbygal55 a good church can be healing too! Praying you find one that encourages you in your walk with Him and blesses you immensely ❤️
We just got out after 30 years and this still infuriates me to watch. We were so Biblically inept. Thank God for opening our eyes. We still have family and “friends” in there that won’t even speak to us anymore because we tried to share the Bible with them and they are ALL ABOUT EXPERIENCE!!! No biblical discernment whatsoever. From the music to the false teachings
@@misfitnicholeI had the same experience for about 6 years in AG church. Some very biblically inept people there, always looking for the emotional experience, and listening to any false teaching just to feel it. It was disappointing to see people believing anything they were told. I could not reason with them from the scriptures that literally refuted most of what they were believing in.
Her LEGACY is demonic...
You're demonic for saying
Yes it is 🥹
Not to mention her LEGACY LEGACY LEGACY ad infinitum 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What proof is there?? Also I have NEVER heard that she has a yacht but even if she did, why is prosperity bad when poverty is of hell? Do you know how many years this lady has sacrificed selflessly amongst the poor of third world countries? She has laid her life down for God & the poor & children. How dare anyone judge her!
Your comment is demonic
She also has a pretty condescending view of the people of Mozambique as if they were just happy little puppies thrilled that Mama Heidi has shown up up just for them
Where do you get that from? She never spoke down to them or made it sound as though they were beneath her. Also she is NOT worth 2 million. On their website, all their financials are openly posted. She has laid her life down to serve others and yes her ministry gets donations bc ppl see their good fruit. While all things like this do is divide the body of Christ.
I'm a little sensitive to when white people do cross-cultural ministry and describe the people among whom they work in almost exclusively terms that would make you think that not one of them was a functioning adult. And this comes from my own experience of having worked cross-culturally for more than a decade in the 90s, seeing the people I worked with being thought of in the eyes of others as uniformly adorable, happy, hard-working, laughing, grateful, and full of endless good cheer it's an unconscious way of treating others as not full equals, and while I have zero doubt at all that Heidi Baker's motives are pure, however questionable her theology, I wish someone would come alongside her and explain this
@@keelyemerine-mix1051 You're so right. Its not worth the criticism they receive that's why all missionaries should abandon their countries and focus on their own nation and people. Theres enough resources online and in the Bible itself to raise up plenty of Godly people without white people to dedicate their lives to a foreign land that will just draw criticism for their efforts, such as being called racist or offending with some sort of micro aggressions, who knows. I'm positive theres enough hurting and starving people within their own borders, they shouldn't bother them anymore. I'm personally still waiting for the Mozambique born Christians to come and bring the word of God to godless communities like here in San Francisco!
For a person who is supposedly a missionary in Mozambique, she sure spends a lot of time in the U.S. TALKIING about being a missionary.
And paid to do so, I'm guessing?
And did you notice she talks about driving a Range Rover? Expensive, high maintenance vehicle. Hardly an appropriate vehicle for the middle of nowhere - unless they have their own private mechanic.
Still, It doesn’t seem as though they’re living in any kind of discomfort.
@@lindseyh5735 - 'ms guessing she doesn't speak for free.
Cameroon campus reporting!!!
But this people are scary though!! Thanks for always keeping tabs and warning us accordingly Steve. God bless and keep you and Paulette!!❤
Thank you🙏🏻 God bless you!❤
Shout out from the Brisbane Campus, Down Under. 😊
@paulettekozar2629 love you Galatians girl ❤️
When my husband was dying of cancer, his dad took him to a church in Toronto where Baker was speaking. He wanted to be prayed for to be healed. She walked past him in the prayer line. Completely ignored him. He felt so rejected. Like God had rejected him. My father in law is a strong Christian, lifelong servant, smart man, but he is 100% in the NAR. Its such a sad moment for me to imagine the hurt she caused him that day. He is whole now, with the Lord.
I'm so sorry 😞
Maybe she was listening to HS & there was a good reason.
@@FreedomAndJustice4All What do you think the third person of the Godhead would possibly say to this woman to cause her to ignore a sick man wanting God to heal him, leading him to believe that God is ignoring him too?
Thank you for your time, I'm very interested in your answer.
I'm so sorry to hear that, but I'd be glad she missed me, I wouldn't want her laying hands on me 😢
@kathyd456 It's happened to me & didn't get bitter or let it isolate me from the body, I just took it to God in prayer & had someone else pray for me. I've also heard of this happening to other people; they were so anxious to get prayer from a minister with a big following, and then were crushed when that person walked past them in the prayer line. In one case, Holy Spirit told the person that they were to keep walking bc there was an undue emphasis on the minister, bc they were being idolized by the person. God might have wanted to move through someone else & not the "celebrity minister." Or God may have already healed the person so he told the minister "keep going." There could be many possible reasons as every situation & person is different. Remember even Jesus did not fulfill every request asked of him, and oftentimes not in the way ppl were anticipating. And the Word says some couldn't be prayed for or healed bc of their "lack of faith". And it's ALWAYS God's will to heal so that is a hard concept for us humans to accept.
Well, this was a hot pile of garbage.
My “pastor” from my old church still loves to talk about nothing but himself this way. Pride really does go before destruction.
we need to pray for him.
Wow. The 'sermon' itself is worse than the 'impartation' that follows. She took a messianic passage from the OT and made it all about herself and her audience. She missed the point of the passage entirely.
Exactly!
I was in this delusion for years it is hard to watch and listen to. Yet I’m glad the false Jesus the false super apostles liars are being revealed. Thank you.
Twelve minutes in, and I can hardly stand it. How can she use this much time to babble on with this story? Ugh!!
12 minutes is incredible stamina - I’m at 5.25 mins and have to pause it for relief, absolute cringing, I’m only hanging in there hoping the Kozars light relief don’t tell me this is 2 hours plus uncut version of this. It should come with a warning.
Wow. I applaud your stamina. I bailed out after two.
Notice Heidi the Baker didn’t ask the mom in labor - if it was ok to speed things up! I know first hand How painful that is. She says Bam! Ugh. How is that experience HER call???She is so Arrogant! And it wasn’t HER baby to run that show!! She took over IF we can believe one single word out of her mouth. She is also telling us how Very important she is. She must catch that plane. Her schedule packed with God activities. Would Not want to be near her on Judgement Day 😮
Thank you. To use another woman’s birth story as clout as just filthy. (Especially her OWN daughter!) And how does a “missionary” to Africa not understand more about the birth? No, this a dangerous narcissist with a Cult of Personality.
"SHEIK-E-DEE-EYE-AH!" I laughed so hard.
Shabba
Shoulda bought a Honda!
I think Sheik Edeeyeah used to be a great pro wrestler my favourite memories were when he faced off against Shandalay Bobo - man those were some anointed battles.
@@gosteronlinecourses 😂😂😂😂😂
Yes. She was uttering something that sounds like new age babble.
It’s an eye-opener to read this in the transcript! Disordered speech present with flight of ideas, racing thoughts, impulsive activity, attention to unimportant details, pressured speech, and grandiosity. This woman isn’t well and needs to be evaluated by a psychiatrist. 😬🙏🙏
That's bc things of the Spirit are meant to be received that way. You're looking at it from a purely natural perspective
The same goes for the rest of these nut jobs and their nutty gatherings !
@@FreedomAndJustice4All Can you show me an example of this in Scripture?
@@FreedomAndJustice4All And actually I’m reporting what I see as a long follower of Christ using critical thinking. This movement wants people to suspend reason and this is how cults form; always some truth, which is the hook. Study the life of Jim Jones who started out in The Assembly of God church. False teachers want to introduce confabulated facts in the name of super spirituality to entice naïve people into false hope. It’s a clear abuse of power and group think.
I feel so sorry for the people of Mozambique!!!!!Stay there don't come to South Africa we have enough problems!!!Thanks for the videos.
I hope she stays in North America. We have an abundance of Bibles we're allowed to read, so any audience she has here is on us.
I love that you are posting this!!! I remember the first time I saw this video. It is gut wrenching knowing people who follow Heidi Baker and Bethel. Hearing the young man scream just tares me up every time.
I'm suffering her voice for your watch time, Steve! Love all the work you and Paulette do ❤ God bless you both!
Thank you 🙏🏻♥️ God bless you!
She’s asking for fire, and he is writhing like he is on fire. Did he need deliverance and she and those around her didn’t do anything about it? That is not what the Holy Spirit looks like. Was he receiving something from her? What happened when they took him away?
Exactly. It is a Kundalini awakening :-(
If God promises you something and it doesn't happen? God didn't promise it. Your psychosis isn't God.
Huh? 😂 you that's absolutely not true. You can screw up a promise from God quite easily. It happens daily. God doesn't miss it, we miss it.
Despite what Heidi Baker says, you should NEVER shock a baba. That is so dangerous.
Hahahaha!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Shocks baba dooo dooo 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Every time I see this I get so mad / that boy is in PAIN and she’s completely indifferent 😮
I agree! I always wonder if his parents have seen it. I would be SO upset if that was my son. 😢
It looks as though she realized that what was happening to him was not good, and she tried to stop it by putting her hand on his chest.
I’m thinking that at that moment what she did was not of God. But she had to keep talking - indifference ? Absolutely - but also shocked by unintended consequences.
How do you know he's in pain??
She imparted a demon into that poor boy!
She’s better suited for playing Peter Pan in a community theater 😂
Except, it would be the version of Peter Pan they put on for Halloween!!
Man, why you gotta do Sandy Duncan dirty like that?
@@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch. Heidi looks very much like Mary Martin (the blonde who played Peter Pan in 196O tv version). 😂
Beat me to it!!!@@jeremybrooks7415
How DARE she that passage was Christ !
What she is doing is chanting, this is witchcraft, I need to turn off sound on my computer
I’m sold! Where do I learn to sing in gibberish?
The lyrics are a challenge I’m told.
@@Open2ReasonNice 😂
If i hear yacht one more time
This speech is SO PRACTICED
God isnt telling Heidi Baker anything, be quiet Heidi
SORRY I CANT STAND IT ANYMORE I FEEL SICK HEARING HER UGH
I love your videos but cannot handle watching her for 2 hours. Thank you for being faithful servants of God, Steven and Paulette.
If someone "commanded " my cervix to go from 1 to 10cm dilated in an instant so they could catch a plane, there would never be a time in that person's life they needed Jesus more than in that moment in that room with me 😂
Right???? This woman……… 🥴🤢😡
Yes!! I CANNOT believe her. 🤷🏼♀️
😂so true
You nailed it! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My thoughts exactly!!!!!!
Somewhere someone somehow totally confused this woman about Who GOD is and what is authentic worship. And she opens the Bible and reads and proclaims,s the Gospel but is completely blind to its rendering or meaning. Finally, how does one talk so long and say absolutely nothing.
Kisses and love on “Daddy”? I need a flight bag. 😖🤢
I’m surprised I put up with this for 9 minutes. I’m outa here!
I agree, this is just gross.
I noticed the trend of using daddy and mama in the NAR. It's as though they used to make the argument that "call no man father" was literal, so they started using daddy as a loophole
Keep these videos coming, because there will be always people crazy enough to keep you making these videos. This is willfully being crazy!
I remember people writhing in Scripture like that blonde guy in the first few minutes....but it was never from God.
1 Samuel 19:23-24 (KJV) And he went thither to Naioth in Ramah: and the Spirit of God was upon him also, and he went on, and prophesied, until he came to Naioth in Ramah.
And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?
@@johnnyplunkett8532 What part of that described Saul writhing and wailing on the ground? I'll give you a hint: it doesn't.
Scripture describes that exclusively when it describes demon possession. I also don't see anyone there actually prophesying.
@@johnnyplunkett8532 Not to mention CONTEXT! This was as Saul was walking in disobedience to God, hunting for David's life. So yeah, nothing about this video is Scriptural.
If those people in this building knew the Gospel, they would have walked out and never came back. She is demonic.
@@johnnyplunkett8532 False , this is referring to Saul who was a false prophet, who went to a soothsayer for answers. Soothsayers are the work of the Devil. Plus the spirit did not exist until Jesus was crucified.
Steve I was waiting for you to talk, didn't know I was going to listen to her for 2 hours.😮
Thanks for letting me know. I'm out of here as I can't do two hours of this.
She's doing a stage act, a monologue for the most part.
Yes! After watching her - a few more times then I’d like- but I believe she is acting and enjoying the attention and 💰💰
“Shay-Ka-Baba” seems to be a real favorite with these false teachers.
don't forget HO and SHUNDA
Shakababa is the name of a Hindu God.
Google it
It's frightening that of these Charasmatics with all their gifts, do not see the deception behind it all😢
@@rickorider I will! I had no idea 🤦🏼♀️
@cynthiar7350 Search Shaka and Baba as separate words. It's all to do with Hinduism.
There is a hindu god called Shaka and baba is the term for old man nmbut all linked to Hinduism.
There is nothing to do with Christianity in Shaka or Baba.
Anyone who uses these or similar words like Shay ka baba are totally deceived in thinking the Holy Spirit has given them these words.
Also; Shaka is the Japanese name for the historical Buddha Shakyamuni. The Buddha is identified by several auspicious marks or physical traits called lakshanas that symbolize his state of enlightenment. The ushnisha (the cranial bump) symbolizes the “expanded wisdom” the Buddha attained at the time of his enlightenment.
So nothing to do with Christianity
"Shake-a-bobo!"
Everyday I learn a new term of that angelic tongue.
😂😭
She is worth $2 million dollars. What missionary do you know is super wealthy? After this two hours of nonsense I just keep wonder what she is a missionary of??? She doesn’t share the gospel whatsoever.
A missionary of Legacy...LEgaCy...lEgAcY...LEGacy...
Oh my gosh WHAT
Only $2M? More, Lord. More, Lord. More, Lord.
Heidi feeds thousands. How many do you feed?
@@MichaelHathaway-hj3vo Clearly she is using only a fraction of her donations for feeding the poor. Kinda like Kenneth Coipeland. You know, the guy who crowned her as "Queen of Heaven." If you think she is not a scammer, then nobody can talk any sense into you.
It is much easier to laugh at Chuck Pierce "realigning the border" with his tuning fork.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 agreed
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Chuck Pierce and Robin Bullock ....if possible even weirder than Kenneth Copeland
Lol his so odd...he makes me sick
She's big on repeating, repeating, repeating.
You noticed??? So did I.
Lord draw your lambs away from these wolves and tares. We know that no one can snatch them out of your hand. Oh Lord...
I absolutely love how Kris Vallotton gets up from the floor, waits a few seconds then lays back down!? Really bro!? To think I used to be deep into this garbage.
Naptime is very important!!
Timestamp?
@@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch Haha! He forgot the box of goldfish crackers.
@@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch😂
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch you got that right
I felt so bad for this young man. It pains me to see him on the floor like he was suffering. I hope he comes to Christ and gets real salvation through Jesus Christ. It'll be interesting to see how he is today
Ppl sometimes exaggerate manifestations to "look cool" or look super spiritual. I've seen ppl do it. It might have been God, maybe not. It's between him and God
Why are you torturing us, Steve 😂
I never said you had to LISTEN to this!
@@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch 🤣😂 Have to support you.
Why does she have to keep repeating certain words and phrases? I feel like I'M losing my mind.
This video breaks my heart.. Heidi is truly evil but she is being deceived.
What point does her self-deception turn into active deception of others ?
She is not being deceived; she is getting her money and attention - that is all she is after.
Sorry koze, but I just couldn't get through it. This woman is insufferable. I had to bail.
Can’t do it, Steve. I tried.
It made me so ANGRY 😠
just found this , im a christian and up to about 14 minutes, and i could be wrong but whats she going on about she's demanding declaring ,,, what or who,, it surely cant be God ( like she says she believes in) how can she demand God, its HIS will be done.
Jesus suffered a horrendous fate so Heidi could have a yacht.
He paid *(for)* it all, didn't He? 😉
I have NEVER heard that she has a yacht but even if she did, why is prosperity bad when poverty is of hell?? Do you know how many years this lady has sacrificed selflessly amongst the poor of third world countries? She has laid her life down for God & the poor & children. How dare anyone judge her!
@@FreedomAndJustice4All 🤣
@@FreedomAndJustice4All tell me you haven't watched the video without telling me you haven't watched the video lolllllllll
@@FreedomAndJustice4Allwhere do you get the idea poverty is of hell? Jesus and His apostles were poor. Being wealthy is not a bad thing but she made her wealth swindling the people from those 3rd world counties she’s supposedly serving. She’s has no business being in a pulpit and she doesn’t have the theological knowledge to be a missionary
'Depart from me, workers of iniquity. I never knew you.'
I like how she casually uses the number 33 for the years of ministry and while she’s saying it she’s throwing up that satanic gang sign. It may be unintentional but all of them do it that serve the devil.
Listening to this now I don’t know how I can ever have thought her behaviour was appropriate
She had her Bible open the whole time, read just a very short section of Gods Word and then went off on stories/lies from her notes the whole time. The only ones getting rich, are the ones leading this cult.
❤😒...so incredibly disturbing. I wonder how that poor guy is doing presently.😮
Exactly! Maybe he’s embarrassed, maybe he has left the complete Christian faith along with this heretical teaching, maybe “they” paid him to keep silent? 🤫 😞we do not know. My prayer is that God saved him and called him out of this heretical nonsense 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Medic! Poor guy or great actor 😢
@user-wl9sk4vc4j IKR? But I think that young man was having a real experience. Demonic? Getting in touch with past trauma? Probably both, I bet. So awful.
As much as this video brings painful memories of how deceived we were,..we have to be grateful to not be in that anymore.
we have to be prepared, this is nothing compared to what is coming. the greatest deception of all. may the Lord keep us, and may we grow in understanding everyday.
Steve, I have a new appreciation for what you do for us! When you and Paulette "hit the bar" and make me laugh, it makes this more bearable. I'm not even 30 minutes in yet and want to be done!!!!
Right on. Watching the ads to wash my brain.
I can’t imagine dealing with someone this narcissistic when I’m in labor
0:35 shake a baba
I thought she said "Shucka kappa".
I thank the good Lord for His grace & mercy in bringing me out of this stuff. Praying for others eyes to be opened & especially that young man, every time I see this it breaks my heart. I couldn't watch most of the video, scrolled thru quickly. Thanks for putting this up, hopefully people will question what they are believing and get back to the Holy Word of God.
So horrifying what happened to that young man 😢 I pray that he is doing better 🙏 and that God sets him free from this garbage
She's definitely one of the characters from Rugrats - "asposed to be..."
I managed twenty minutes and then smashed my monitor. Really don' t know how you do this, Steve! Really appreciate you though.
Creepy woman
I have a friend who just LOVES Heidi Baker. She said she is amazing. No matter what I say to her it's like she is under her spell.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Lots of preying going on.
I wonder why Heidi or Bill didn't miraculously heal the lady in the wheelchair in the front row 🤔
Man! Kudos to you, Steve, L4T, JP and a few others for torturing yourselves on our behalf by suffering through these videos in order to teach and keep us informed of these hairy-tics.
It’s brutal to sit through a long video such as this! Gotta split it up into segments.
Thanks for your efforts!!
P.S. Love your long vids! There’s just too much Heidi in this one but nevertheless, I’ll get through this one.
I always wondered what happened to the followers of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh after he fled back to India.
I'm wondering if anyone ever interviewed the young man that was screaming...
My heart breaks, and im honestly in tears right now, for the people listening to her. Gospel not even mentioned, until around 1:25:00(briefly) Just a selfish-based "sermon" 💔
So many red flags here🚩🚩, its incredibly sad.
Other channel that won't be named: "Your criticism of female pastor or charismatic abuse is irrelevant. Look at the fruit."
Me, looking at the wandering and meaningless stories, the people screaming like they're on fire, and drunken behavior: "..."
I don’t think I can finish this video. I’m 30 minutes in and blood running from my eyes and ears
You're free to go. 😉
Join the club. I skipped over bunches of this rubbish and still feel like I received an audio trepanning.
😂😂😂
"The blood!? A miracle! Legacy! Legacy! Legacy!" Lol
I was just 6 minutes into it and was fed up with her third-rate Gregorian chanting.
To me, "Legacy" just reminds me of "Legion".....
Funniest thing: Baker said she arrived with $30 in her pocket. I thought, "I'm surprised she didn't say $33." Her next statement? "It was 33 years ago..."
She's on the payroll. End of story. Make no mistake.
Just like Jim Morrison, Heidi Baker isn't a showman - she's a shaman.
Saying 33 while showing 666 sign... 1:21:56 and right after showing the Baphomet salut, also known as rock-'n'-roll sign - the witch knows what she's doing!
Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me Jesus me me me me me me me Jesus me me
I could not watch the entire sermon, Heidi Baker loves to peach about the greatness of Heidi Baker.
Why does it irk me when they say “holy spirit?”
They think "holy spirit" is some kind of force that gives supernatural experiences, gives them everything they want and does their bidding. It bothers me, too. It is surely not the Holy Spirit of God as described in the Bible.
@@musicalone74 , bingo.
As a false teacher, Heidi is well suited to being a comedian 😂
She needs to be banned from any ministry, yhats the occult
Completely satanic possession!
Sry cannot watch this anymore. My head exploded🤦♀️
every time i see that young man convulse & shake it breaks my heart. I think it's demonic possession & he's in terrible pain. Makes me hope oh please God save him! Hope it scared many there & many watching. thank you for keeping this video up.
Nope. She lost me at "kisses of love."
I was at Bethel at this time and most likely I was in this service and would rather not relive it! I’m jumping off early. I can’t! Thank God I have left the WOF/NAR circus. I have new found peace and freedom getting away from it all.
truly curious: do you still pray in tongues for your own personal time, or, after a time of 'pause' (and recovery from the experience) do you more 'carefully' practice a few generic charismatic expressions?
How has your recalibration to the Gospel & God been ?
Anyone wanna take bets on what her BAC is in this sermon? No way she’s sober.
I've managed to put up with this for 17 min 50 secs admittedly whilst downloading some sermon audio . Not able to continue but I'm glad that you have got the copy of the deleted video.
Rightly or wrongly, the expression 'bat shit bonkers' comes to mind....
I once heard that we should use the correct word, not the polite word, for the situation. If one puts stock in that, it's a correct term for her.
Tony
That is correct - that is the word of the Lord re this behavior....
😀😀
@@Orquet-qj2nf
Use the "correct word" rather than the "polite word"...
Love it! I finally have vindication!
I am going to unloose on white American evangelicalism!
And she’s the worst story teller
What she lacks in quality she makes up for in sheer quantity!
Thank you for posting these videos. You are doing the Lord's work. Praying for you and your family and your fur kids!!
This was difficult to watch with no sane commentary 👎
Had to fast forward through most 😒
Steve Kozar, did you make this video to torcher your listeners 😅
This woman gives me the major creeps every time i see her 😬 It’s hard for me to even listen to this
Thanks dear Kozar’s but I can’t watch, she’s too disturbing. I’m praying for your spiritual health watching this dark stuff. 🙏✝️
🙏🏻 God bless you🙏🏻