Definitely prefer the pre-BiS lists because I want to know what I need to get into phase 1 raiding, not what I'll be using at the end of phase 1 raiding.
Yeah heck the phase 1 bis are probably Last Laugh, a 1h axe from nax that has a ton of defense and stamina, because for blood tanks weapons are kinda just stat sticks.
@@benjamn8557 Icy Touch generates so much threat that pretty much everything else is irrelevant. It has a 17x threat multiplier. For AoE pulls DnD, Blood Boil and diseases are all spell damage, so weapon damage doesn't matter there, either. Finally, getting defense capped is tough early on, the extra 60 or so defense rating you can get from taking one handers helps a lot. I don't think there are any two handers with defense rating in P1.
For those of us that are planning on playing Orc DK, are the swords still bis or pre bis? Axe specialization would make me want to use an axe, but most of the videos that are posted (the good one's) are focused on Human DK's. I would love an Orc specific video. I love your content, the only person i actually signed up as a member.
My question is if I am going Blacksmithing (I am because nobody else in my guild is and I don't want our patterns to go to waste) what would be the most important pre raid titansteel pieces to get first? Tempered helm? destroyer? boots?
Unholy is much similar to blood leveling wise, but I personally feel it clears faster but can pull about the same pack size. Having tested both on a pserv I’ll def be lvling unholy
@@Die10003 you can pull more as blood but will kill the mobs a decent bit slower, you can also solo all elite mobs as blood, it’s nice to just get dual spec right away and have both specs.
Not a bad list, curiously the badge neck doesnt make the list. I'd say that would be at or tied for the top of pre-raid. Also, those lvl 76 crafted pieces seem to be weighted fairly high over some of the other options, im assuming it's so high because of the Def rating? Realistically, those would be worse than some of the other options, im thinking the tool may weigh them a little too high individually. If you get a full set, you shouldnt need the extra def from those crafted ones, so some of the options ranked lower would be better.
Why didn't you mention the tier 7 chestpiece and hands which can be bought for badges of heroism? Also would be a consideration of 1h-weapons nice, because DK's rely for their threat only on icy touch, so it isn't neccessary that they use a 2h weapon.
Over 100 badges worth of Valor gear mentioned at 2 badges a day, but no mention of the Heroism sigil that you can easily get enough badges to buy before hitting 80 and will still be using it in Ulduar?
I think this list is extremely defensive an yea you can plop a rock in front of the boss but that doesn't matter if the boss start's to kill everything except you. That was a problem for me in TBC classic as I stated to play WoW and go for a similar pre bis list and as soon as I got in to Kara I realized I didn't make thread an I was way over the defensive cap. So I farmed 2 weeks a new set of gear on my on until I could tank Kara just fine. Eventually u schould mentioned that in your coming guides to help especially new players to avoid that mistake.
Not sure why you titled this video "Blood DK" and not "Tank DK". Blood spec tanking is pretty awful for anything but tanking raid bosses and even then Frost DK tanks will probably out perform Blood DK tanks until they get decent gear, especially with the ability to dual wield 2 tanking 1h with Rune of the Nerubian Carapace.
you realize Blood was a DPS spec in Wraith yes? I have no idea where all this Blood can only tank crap is from. That was after Wrath when that happened. Blood was a dps if Wraith it need ArP but it is and always was agood single target spec. You are falling into the they only tank crap that seems to be from the crappy private servers that cant code them right. Also why on earth are you only showing one handed weapons for Unholy? Unholy is 2H all that dual wield crap you watched on streams was from a bugged sigil. It was never better then 2h anywhere near enough to only list dual options.
Definitely prefer the pre-BiS lists because I want to know what I need to get into phase 1 raiding, not what I'll be using at the end of phase 1 raiding.
Defense sigil can be extremely useful if you need the extra def. Especially if you aren't dual wielding.
Forgot to include duel wield tanking weapons which are a great option and are equal to running a 2hander.
Agreed, I'm running two of the Ebon Blade 1 handers (Reaper of Dark souls), as they have decent amount of hit rating and stamina on them.
Yeah heck the phase 1 bis are probably Last Laugh, a 1h axe from nax that has a ton of defense and stamina, because for blood tanks weapons are kinda just stat sticks.
Isnt strike damage based on your main hand weapon? So a two hander would be better to tank with?
@@benjamn8557 Icy Touch generates so much threat that pretty much everything else is irrelevant. It has a 17x threat multiplier.
For AoE pulls DnD, Blood Boil and diseases are all spell damage, so weapon damage doesn't matter there, either.
Finally, getting defense capped is tough early on, the extra 60 or so defense rating you can get from taking one handers helps a lot. I don't think there are any two handers with defense rating in P1.
everything you suggested is for a tanking focused blood dk. what about blood specced dps?
Blood isnt really going to be that amazing until lots of ArP mate so probably only going to cover UH and Frost in terms of DPS
I appreciate the pre-bis list!!! Keep em coming and don't forget to give me a beta code!!!!!
For those of us that are planning on playing Orc DK, are the swords still bis or pre bis? Axe specialization would make me want to use an axe, but most of the videos that are posted (the good one's) are focused on Human DK's. I would love an Orc specific video. I love your content, the only person i actually signed up as a member.
i dont think its necessary to make a whole video on orcs. just some weapon alternatives for orcs would be enough
Why no 1hander options?
My question is if I am going Blacksmithing (I am because nobody else in my guild is and I don't want our patterns to go to waste) what would be the most important pre raid titansteel pieces to get first? Tempered helm? destroyer? boots?
Any 1 hand weps on there?
Is levelling as Blood fun? Interested to go Blood for my DK and tank since I always played dps.
Unholy is much similar to blood leveling wise, but I personally feel it clears faster but can pull about the same pack size. Having tested both on a pserv I’ll def be lvling unholy
@@Die10003 you can pull more as blood but will kill the mobs a decent bit slower, you can also solo all elite mobs as blood, it’s nice to just get dual spec right away and have both specs.
Blood is pretty much the fastest, you just AoE mobs, apply/spread diseases, blood boil and heal yourself.
Not a bad list, curiously the badge neck doesnt make the list. I'd say that would be at or tied for the top of pre-raid.
Also, those lvl 76 crafted pieces seem to be weighted fairly high over some of the other options, im assuming it's so high because of the Def rating?
Realistically, those would be worse than some of the other options, im thinking the tool may weigh them a little too high individually.
If you get a full set, you shouldnt need the extra def from those crafted ones, so some of the options ranked lower would be better.
I think badge neck is the go to.i wouldnt waste money on the JC neck when 25 emblems is half a days work
Please do frost next! My wife left me
Was there going to be a pre patch healing and tank video? I’d like the see how much they can pump during pre patch.
Why didn't you mention the tier 7 chestpiece and hands which can be bought for badges of heroism? Also would be a consideration of 1h-weapons nice, because DK's rely for their threat only on icy touch, so it isn't neccessary that they use a 2h weapon.
for nostalgia reasons i must have the colossal skull-clad cleaver! :D
Over 100 badges worth of Valor gear mentioned at 2 badges a day, but no mention of the Heroism sigil that you can easily get enough badges to buy before hitting 80 and will still be using it in Ulduar?
is there a BIS list for level 70 Blood DK for TBC gear, non Sunwell.
that is way too specific my guy 😂
when you make them lists you should add tbc items for dps and healers atleast that you could still use and be fine.
Can you PLEASE make a video on how long Darkmoon card greatness is BIS for each class/spec*?
This video is what I needed!
Can you PLEASE make a video on how long Darkmoon card greatness is good for each class/spec*?
Checked the UH DK Pre-BiS and it's shockly horrible.
They could've literally just copied Whitewolf's but somehow decided not to
Bro… it’s pre-naxx. You can wear leveling gear and clear that kindergarten raid
scotte make a list for stuff to lvl dk
Confusing having Valor items in a PRE raid list
You don’t need to raid to get it, you get them from your daily heroic
@@Scottejaye Yea u will need 13days for Ur First piece lmao
Why do we have a Frost DK on the thumbnail, Scotte? lol
I think this list is extremely defensive an yea you can plop a rock in front of the boss but that doesn't matter if the boss start's to kill everything except you. That was a problem for me in TBC classic as I stated to play WoW and go for a similar pre bis list and as soon as I got in to Kara I realized I didn't make thread an I was way over the defensive cap. So I farmed 2 weeks a new set of gear on my on until I could tank Kara just fine. Eventually u schould mentioned that in your coming guides to help especially new players to avoid that mistake.
Wtb beta key!
Not sure why you titled this video "Blood DK" and not "Tank DK". Blood spec tanking is pretty awful for anything but tanking raid bosses and even then Frost DK tanks will probably out perform Blood DK tanks until they get decent gear, especially with the ability to dual wield 2 tanking 1h with Rune of the Nerubian Carapace.
Listened to some of this at 0.5 playback... sound wasted :D
Yea bro u Rly have no clue at wotlk
you realize Blood was a DPS spec in Wraith yes? I have no idea where all this Blood can only tank crap is from. That was after Wrath when that happened. Blood was a dps if Wraith it need ArP but it is and always was agood single target spec. You are falling into the they only tank crap that seems to be from the crappy private servers that cant code them right. Also why on earth are you only showing one handed weapons for Unholy? Unholy is 2H all that dual wield crap you watched on streams was from a bugged sigil. It was never better then 2h anywhere near enough to only list dual options.