This Caused 6 Train Derailments
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- As more and more train derailments happen people are asking questions, why? Whats the deal? Why can't Norfolk southern or BNSF keep it on the tracks? Valid questions and today here is a very little piece of the pie as to why the derailments have been happening, and another example of how the carriers prioritize money over the safety on the general publics and their workers.
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Had a train last night to take from Birmingham to Chattanooga. 41% of the loads were in the rear third of the train. We called out the rule that says you can’t have that high of a percentage on the rear. Told the yardmaster the exact tonnage in the rear third. They changed their math 3 different times and then said it was okay to go. Train tan like shit the whole trip, but we babied it between 15 and 30 mph the entire trip.
I'm glad you didn't get accused of 'Dogging It'. That happened to me when I first hired out. It was "Get the Work Done Now" not follow the rules. Being the 'New Kid' I was an easy 'Scape Goat'! But....many years later I was nominated for the Harold F. Hammond National Railroad industry safety recognition award. Near the end of my career the VP of the railroad wanted to meet me but I declined. So....he flew in from corporate and held my 'Surprise' retirement party. He's now the CEO on the CN. So, it's YOUR TURN to run a railroad ! Most importantly Always be Aware of your Surroundings, ALWAYS ! and "At Any Time, On Any Track, in Either Direction" (it's 'In the Book)In my 37 years 15 fellow trainmen were killed. Don't take this job lightly. And keep an eye on your coworker not the baseball score. Trust me. 'Been There, Done That" and.......Good Luck !
The one in East Palestine had several shop cars that had the tags taken off by the road foreman. The same foreman then tried to pin it on one of our yardmasters.
I worked in a truck shop at a chemical plant, and they did the same kind of stuff. The spot truck driver was pulling deadline signs off of deadlined trailers on our lot, just so they could get the loads sent out. So never mind that they had DOT violations and were awaiting repair. Just get the driver with his load down the highway…
That wouldn’t surprise me one bit..
Maybe Trump will get reelected and change the way companies want it.
Unions need to step up it's game.
PSR sucks when employees are cut back and incidents are happening.. Good luck surviving these class 1s
I've never heard the road foreman part but I don't doubt it for a second. That about all they are good for throw someone else under the bus. Communist bastards
4 weeks in to OJT in the Binghamton yard for NS. Since being here 5 new bulletins have come out about train building
Welcome back Joey. Definitely seen some interesting consists with empty flat cars in the middle of the train. Cutting corners as always.
Good luck in the fishing tournament! I'll be praying for the fish to hit your lines hard.
Thank you John! Appreciate the support buddy.
I can't say how many times I have been on a train where the trail tonnage was ridiculously high. The yard masters don't care. They want the trains out of the yard.
I got accepted to ns earlier this week. I applied to 4 different locations. 3 in PA which is where I am from and wanted to work/live. Then WV was the 4th. I got accepted to WV and just waiting on the background check. Its actually not a job I would have considered before or even though about despite growing up near a rail yard. I saw the really weird csx recruiting video and then found your channel after. Then found out a good buddy of mine has worked for ns for 18 years and started giving me pointers. This is a big leap forward for me especially because I will be moving states and won't know anyone. I currently work at a historical Fort and love it. its more of a gig job. Sad that I am gonna have to leave it. However I am looking forward to my new chapter in life. I just hope its a long one. I am going into NS to see if its something I could do for a couple years til find something better or if its a career.
That’s awesome Ed! I was in a very similar boat as you when I hired in. I didn’t leave the state, I did move 2-3 hours away but looking back, it’s something I’ll remember the rest of my life. That single decision catapulted me into where I am now.
We derailed 3 times in 2 months from trains with empty intermodal in the middle. We’ve been trying to complain.
Company put it as train handling each time., each time was the only empty cars around the same spot and different operators each time. Guys with 15+ years of experience.
yup this has been an issue for years from my understanding well before I even hired in back in 2017
And the DPU's attribute a lot to it as well . I hated them damn things .
@@rc391995 idk I’m starting to fall in love with them. My regular job runs 2 ways I either have 12k feet 2 on head and a DP or 10k feet and one engine long hood forward so I get both end of the spectrum lol
If you complain, you get get targeted and eventually charged with rule violations. Until the mindset of railroad management conforms to some sense of reality, nothing will change.
Another thing: Why aren’t railroad managers subject to random drug testing? In my career, I experienced firsthand many inebriated managers who were addicts to both drugs and alcohol. The company said they had their own testing program, but I never ever heard of any manager getting drug tested. It was all faked, and reports to the FRA were falsified, I’m sure.
-40 year class 1 engineer (retired now, so I can talk without repercussions)
My boyfriend works for the RR here in the Los Angeles area. I am so proud of the work he does and at the same time fear for his safety. The stories he tells me. Thank you for sharing. Yes. We both love choo choos
Glad to hear you're doing well and living life the way YOU want to live it.
And yea, train make up is SUPER important but wow, those trainmasters are under the gun to reduce that DWELL TIME and get them trains out and running. Can't let a little thing like proper train placement get in the way huh?
Sheesh, i wonder what's NEXT with these guys?????
Good to hear from you Claude! Hope all is well buddy. So much has happened in the last 2 months BNSF just got a complaint today from one of their biggest money makers.. powder river basin.. all that coal and they can’t get it out in a timely manner.. skeleton crews..
yep doing good on my end... my middle daughter just graduated navy boot camp april 7th, went to the navy base near chicago and watched her graduate, very proud of her... also have my oldest daughter going through navy boot camp right now, she's graduating may 19th... and wow i asked what was next with those boneheads and bam, we now have not enough crews in the powder river basin... they have taken PSR way over the top, and beyond, just plain STUPID
@@25mfd wow that’s awesome! Congrats to your middle and you as well! I wish your oldest the best, I’m sure she will graduate no problem.
Yeah, i feel like it’s just getting started 🤣. Im going to sit back and enjoy the ride and share it with everyone. I have a feeling a lot more of these customers are about to start opening their mouth since the government has started to get involved. We shall see
Got a question so I have a friend who lives down in Georgia when I’m not in school would I get in trouble for going to see her I would have her help me study and what not
No, you’re free to do what you want as long as it’s not on company property or in the hotel cause that’s considered company property also.
@@Railroad_Talk yea I kinda figured that is there like a specific time we have to be back at a hotel if we do end up going anywhere
I don't know why the railroad thinks these couplers can handle an infinite amount of weight fore and after them. In-Train forces are real. These couplers cannot handle 200 plus cars slapping back and forth a thousand miles a day
I’ve noticed recently they’ve been running a lot more trains out of Elkhart with 1x1x0 and 1x0x1 set ups instead of no dpus
If the train management system is running the engine and gets a knuckle then it’s no big deal no matter how many you break. If the engineer is handling the train then it’s a start major 🤷🏻🤷🏻. Now to something funny. Remember the scrappers that would steal metal off cars getting ready to go into Nucor? They were in full force today. I know they had to at least get 1000 pounds off the cars today 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
I take trains up and over cajon pass and Tehachapi loop and i can definitely say on alot of the trains we get from Texas and Arizona(almost every workday) they dgaf how trains are built, they are fine to run on the flats and the small stair step hills but 99.9% of the time they are illegal to take over the mountain due to placement errors and 99.9% of the time they highball them. They make us switch them out .1% of the time and majority of the time its empty centerbeams that cause the issue and we all know those are derail happy especially next to a set of loads coming down on top of them. I understand the trains have set outs/pick ups in route to us but when you hand the trains over with 4-5 hours to spare because some dumbass manager that knows nothing about how trains work told them to also highball the train makeup you could have taken that extra time and made the shit legal especially when after we get the train it usually takes us all 12 to run from colton to the central valley in California and we have a high chance to spit cars out on all those tight turns in Tehachapi and such. I get it we allll wanna go home but damn have a little bit of pride and self respect and do your job the correct way and that goes for managers, crews and yardmasters. Because if you do the job right then theres nobody to point the finger at besides the company and their faulty equipment.......or an engineer who just sucks with train handling 😂
Well said, if the people responsible for building these in yards, yardmasters, managers, etc. Did their jobs right instead of trying to get it out by a certain time then this kind of stuff would be less frequent
They put 22 ballast cars on the back of an 80 yr old rail train and wondered why the rail train pulled in half. Heavy spagetti. The decision to put MW unit trains in commodity trains lasted about 2 years.
Just had one 2 weeks ago it’s just loaded cars as long as it’s in compliance SSI item 47 what’s the difference?
What does it mean again to " catch a knuckle " ?
a broken knuckle
Thanks
Blame the investors on Wall Street for this stuff! They are running the companies in the U.S. If companies aren’t run in
such a way to make THEM money, they throw a big fit, and
the guys at the top loose their
heads. Of course, then it all flows down hill, and it’s the guys at the bottom that are at
fault; and they also loose their
heads. It’s all about the operating ratio and the safety rules are usually a little over the top, anyway! I agree railroading is dangerous and there needs to be a mindset of safety, but they are trying to take the
individualism out of it. Put everyone in the same pot, make
everyone on the same page. As
long as you’re being safe, some
just do things different from others!
Kinda makes sense (to a layman) the heaviest stuff is at the rear, it's the first to be dropped off and the stuff going all the way to BFE at the front will tend lighter.
They don’t care about any of that and if it’s DP you have to have 10 loads in front of the motor or at least cut them out so why would they be back there if you can’t use em….
Let me guess:. Trains are string lining
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@@DogRedful they want only 2. dont see how it matters with vanguard and black rock in the top 3 of investers of all class 1s
Does anybody know the name or location of that yard pictured in the article?
Never heard of an engineer being decertified for train makeup 🤔, and knuckles are broke by bunching force not stretching, the knuckles are meant to be pulled 🤷🏻♂️
This is just a way they can blame the conductor for something else all the engineer has to do is ask the FOREMAN (CONDUCTOR) if everything is good and it’s a get out of jail free card. They don’t want engineers working as brakeman it does them no good.
Norfolk Southern! What's your function? Trashing out the Country helping debtors run!
Hey CSX sucks too
Yea only 6 they would own up to. How they get away with it is they blame it on bad train handling . Looks like a little common sense would have to befall the figure heads one day. It simply ain't going to happen.
My guess, 6 x 10 times
who cares? uphill slow downhill fast tonnage first safety last!