I'm that guy commenting on a 7 year old video (sorry). Are you still using this in 2024? We have an established membership platform and are looking for the best approach to scale on the front end. Love your videos, thank you!
"How can I take what I do into a monthly membership process (funnel)". I just watched Mike's Webinar and your review. Time to think! Thank you for your excellent review of both Mike Dillard's impact and clarification of this online entrepreneurial innovation. Just missed the 1 hr. deadline by Mike today...THINKING...
Man Bro!! Super Excited about this video! Thanks for all you do, your content has been some of the best and I have been watch a lot for the past 3 months or so. Learning tons, thanks!
Excellent video content! Forgive me for butting in, I would appreciate your thoughts. Have you tried - Donichrel Membership Meticulous (just google it)? It is a good one off guide for learning how to start your own lucrative online business without the normal expense. Ive heard some amazing things about it and my buddy got cool success with it.
Is this program, the way you described, on thrive themes? How is the membership program where it is $1, then charges after $8 setup? Stripe Subscriptions?
Hi Miles. I watched like 50 of your videos here. Easy to understand and straight to the point. I like this video especially because its like visual and you can understand the process. Do you have some tweaks on this "sketch" on particular for 2019. Do you use the same exact funnel as here in 2019?
As always excellent content Miles... right to to point, so gld to know you. Four really quick questions : 1. For the 7 days 1$ trial subscribers, do you give them access to all you past content or are they limited to only a couple of videos until they become a 37$/month member or a 197$/year member ? Mike Dillard only makes 3 videos available for his 1$ 14 days trial... 2. How many pieces of content, and how long, do you produce per month Ex: 0ne 15-30 minutes videos per month or more ? 3. I guess members can ask you questions under each video lesson ? 4. Do you have a private Facebook group only available for members of your membership program ?
The trial members get access to only a part of our overall content... We drip out additional content every month they continue to pay. This way every time they make a payment there are new items available for them reinforcing the value exchange of the transaction. Annual members also receive monthly drip items, they don't get the whole year at once... We produce approximately 3 to 6 new audio files per month, one members only Q&A video and a few bonus live streams in our Facebook group. With that said it is totally different depending on the niche and what you offer. This works for us. Yes we have a private Facebook group and that is working very well to's per additional discussions.
I'm currently offering a 7 day free trial before automatically billing the $25/month membership. Is there an advantage to $1 trial vs free? I've been seeing more opt-ins since implementing the free trial but about 40% of that new traffic is cancelling before Day 8, wondering if it's because they aren't "invested" in it, even if it's just $1?
So on your seven day, free trial do they input their credit card? If so can you offer an annual upsell immediately after the free trial starts? This is why we run the dollar trial is because we get their credit card number, they become a customer, then we offer them an annual upsell on the next page that's a one click upsell since the party enter their credit card. If your system can do that with a free trial that would work, but someone who takes you up on a free trial is not a paying customer yet someone who takes you on a one dollar trial is a paying customer... Is a big psychological difference to people who become customers and a higher likelihood they will pay you more in the future!!!
Yes they need to enter their credit card to sign up for the 7 day trial, it automatically bills them $25 on Day 8 unless they cancel during the trial and this is all very obviously stated to them during sign up. I think the annual upsell is what I'm missing and what I will add in. Right now monthly is my only option. thanks :)
That was a huge upgrade for our membership program! I talk about the 'angle' of the upsell video here and more about that funnel: www.milesbeckler.com/six-figure-membership-funnel-hack/
It is my correct understanding that right now this is not usually the funnel that you lead with cold traffic. From your videos it looks like you us a self liquidating offer >> Email Submit >> OTO >> One time upsell to run cold traffic and then after building a relationship with the email list using retargeting and look alike audiences and email broadcast to advertise your membership site? Am I correct on this?
Hi Miles - Great video and blog post! I have 3 questions, if you'd be so kind to answer: 1 - Is the 2% conversion on the OTO 1 is of ALL ad clicks, or of those who opted in? 2 - Is the $1 trial an automatic billing if they don't cancel? 3- Do you hide the buy button, price and monthly payment until the video reveals the offer?
I have a younger audience on my youtube and I've been hesitant to make a monthly subscription any more than $8/mo. Am I undercutting myself or should I keep the price tag low to have higher retention?
Testing will tell... And it is not a commodity, but it is all about what you help them with. I would recommend testing at least $17/mo to see if you get a similar conversion rate... That is what... Like 52 cents per day? Still super cheap!
Great video Miles. I have List Grow program and between your input and Mike's I am excited to get my membership offer and program underway. Thanks for all you do to assist entrepreneurs! Diane
Miles, I have a question... what should one expect as a healthy retention rate for your membership site? I heard most people only stay for 3 months on average and I thought that was low if you are keeping them engaged and providing value. Thanks, Diane
Catherine Galma-Tucker 1 second ago Hi Miles, Great discuss and curiosity in finding out more about Russell Branson's toy, Clickfunnels brought me to your site. Finding you has somehow succeeded in calming down my boiling blood and I believe that I may finally be on to something that would enable me to at last achieve my goal in Internet Marketing. I now want your opinion on how to choose between your business model and that of Mike Dillard - I need to sign up to study under the direction and guidance of a serious mentor without having to break the Bank to get what I need to have done. I have operated a brick and mortar ethnic cosmetics business for over 3 decades and can't complain about my blessings - however, being so close to retirement, I need a digital product or membership site that would allow me to teach members all that I had learned and known in my business so that the younger generation can also learn from it and take it to higher and more prosperous heights. Possible or just a dream?
Definitely possible... Do you have a clear understanding of who you are best suited to help? The audience you will serve? And what problems/questions you can help them with? That is the biggest part, then build a list by giving them great content and then build a relationship with them via email. Have you seen my free course? www.milesbeckler.com/millions
Hi Miles - really loving all your videos, and learning a lot. I have a question: I have a membership business that already has 2 tiers, a $25/month level and a $99/month level. I love the idea of the $1 trial - going to add that right away. But how would you recommend someone going about upselling through two levels? Separate the offers? Wait and offer an upsell at a later time? I'd love your thoughts- and thanks in advance!
+David-Dorian Ross it depends... Are you giving them the two options before checkout? If so you could make them both dollar trial -> annual If you sell the 25 only and upsell the 99 then you could add the annual on the back end of that... If they say no to 99 they get the annual 25 downslope... If they say yes to the 99 you can follow that with an annual upsell offer.
Currently I'm giving people both options before checkout - and frankly it's not a very sophisticated offer page at the moment. I started with the $99 membership only for members who come to live classes, and only recently figured out a way to offer a lower-priced level for members who would only get recorded classes. (The higher priced membership includes the recorded classes btw) I never thought of offering them the option of a $1 trial for either. That's brilliant- thank you!
As you move forward, one other thing I felt nudged to share is that options can often cause confusion... Confusion causes people to take no option. Sometimes it is better to create a 'yes or no' path for them.... It removes a ton of friction. So, selling them on the $25 course at $1 trial being the sole focus of that sales page... Then offer them the upsell to the 'live version' on the one click upsell.... To $99/mo. This could bill immediately or you could have it start on day 7, too. Then if they say yes to that, you can offer them a whole year for 50% off, one payment now of $497 or $397 if you'd like. IF they say no to the $99 you can offer them the full year of the $25 membership for $97 or some crazy good deal.... Every step you are simply asking 'yes or no' never a choice beyond that. And, you are giving them better and better deals as they move forward through the funnel, so it is positioned as 'You are going to need to practice this all year, change takes time, etc.... If you are willing to commit for a year, I'll give you a deal, now' So it isn't like you are 'selling more' you are actually helping them 'save money over the year' Then, you get those annual upsells which bill immediately and BOOM your advertising budget jumps up and up and up, letting you run more ads and scale relatively quickly. Lots of moving parts there, but it is totally doable and once all setup could be a wicked-powerful funnel that allows you to market a $1 item that could result in ~$500 sales. If you need help putting something like this together on the tech side, my buddy Dave at www.integratepro.com could wire this all up for you, for sure. He did my migration and got my membership all setup on the new system when I moved... Great dude. Didn't want to leave you swimming in the 'oh shit, that sounds horribly complex'-swamp. :D
Hi Milles, thanks for the information. Really useful. In addition to the topic that you address, I want to know what program you use to transmit and record your videos. I mean the possibility of showing your camera and your screen simultaneously. What program do you use?
Hey Miles, now that I finished my membership funnel w/ $1 trial, I have a question to clarify my understanding of the conversion figures you show on your funnel videos. So, for your $27 OTO funnel with an OCU if I remember correctly you quoted about 2% conversion on the OTO and around 50% conversion for the OCU. Now, with the $1 membership trial as the first offer the lead sees, and given the low entry cost of a buck, do you get a higher rate than 2% or about same? How about the membership OCU? 50% as well? Thanks!!
Hi Miles, I have a channel that I teach start up and struggling contractors the business side of contracting and I was wondering what exactly to put into a membership site.
advanced trainings, templates, how to close clients, how to submit proposals, how to follow up, how to drive more leads, how to rank on Google, how to increase profits, how to hire, when to fire, how to manage books, how to fill up retirement accounts, how to pay less in taxes, etc.
Hi mate, Thanks a lot for the wonderful video. Can I ask two questions? 1- where do you advertise the first video? I mean if the website is new the traffic to the website is negligible for people to watch the fist video. 2- I like the idea of $1 option but if I want to charge them by paypal, isn't the cot of paypal for me more than $1? Thanks heaps
Hi Miles - can you tell me anything about the Facebook ad copy you used to drive traffic to the landing page? For example, would you use the "Free video reveals..." in your headline and the "Get a 7 Day Trial for only $1" in your subheadline... or something else?
wow!!! Yes Sir!! I have the perfect product, and niche, but i gotta figure out the particulars of how to piece this system together for what i can offer.
I lay it out in step-by-step format on this post (has all the videos and some extra text/ideas from me on it): www.milesbeckler.com/clickfunnels-alternative
Hi Miles. Just wanted to say thanks for all the awesome free content. I have been struggling with my memberships sites mainly in providing content. I have been in the survival nich with a fb fan page of 31k and a closed group of 6k people but have been hesitant to really push traffic to my membership as Im not sure of the best way to provide training. So I am going into a new niche as I am a speaker and will make videos of my self on my chosen topic. What do you recommend for creating content for members?
To create content from members it's all about knowing your members… Who are they? Where are they in their lives? What are their biggest problems? Challenges? Fears? Desires? Create solutions to their problems and help them achieve their desires... You have the side benefit of this large fan page and group. If you don't know what their fears and desires are, ask them! Off the top of my head, I assume that they're very into the DIY stuff which lends itself to info products quite well. I know that a lot of these people are also very consumer focused because fear drives them to purchase more survival stuff. All in all, it'll take a bunch of testing before you really solidify what works best for you and your audience and what they respond to.
Hey Miles great information. Do you include the $1 trial offer on the same page as the free video?? Or, Does the free video/training lead another page that includes the $1 offer? Also, do you know who I could get to do the custom coding for the $1 offer in clickfunnels?
Hey Miles! Very cool video! Thanks! I just have a few questions. What kind of information you give your members every month that they stay with you over 30 months? Can you give some examples please? And can you give a link to your membership site too please? I'll appreciate it. Thanks!
Meditations and spiritual development courses... My integration guy works with a membership site owner who has had paying members for over 5 years!!!!! th-cam.com/video/Wrz00t_S1p0/w-d-xo.html
Wow cool! Based on your exaperience can you recommend what kind of content is best to give to members monthly so to give them the greatest value? For example if your membership site was about business marketing like on youtube etc what kind of monthly content would you create? BTW, I'm just curious why are you making content about websites etc. if you have meditations and spiritual development courses? :)
really awesome idea! I am considering purchasing the List-Grow course but I am having a hard time thinking of what to offer on a membership basis. Any suggestions on what niche's this business model is good for? Might take a chance at the physical product concept.
+Rashaun Townsend I like digital products and honestly the real reason that course worked so well for me is because I already had a membership... It needs to be something you are passionate about because it is a lot of work!
Very interesting stuff. I am thinking of building up a membership program for learning communication. I still feel a little bit unsure if I can provide enough value with training sequences via e-mail every two days. I have to think about a little bit more about membership programs. It would be very interesting if you share your thoughts on membership-programs.
Amazing content. I have been watching your videos everyday since I came across your content. Question: How do I start the Membership Site, upload courses etc. I already have 28 Courses on Udemy and I offer one to one consulting too. Do you have a video for this? Thanks so much Miles Boomy
Hey Miles. I'm setting up a membership site now with ClickFunnels. I see the members area where the courses go, but I feel like the membership should have like a forum or something for members to communicate. Does your sites have more than just the courses or do you offer more in the membership area?
Audrey, I was not exactly satisfied with the user experience inside of the members area so I have made a move at this point.... Check out this post for more information: www.milesbeckler.com/why-i-left-clickfunnels/
We are using a wordpress based system with Thrive Cart (checkout), Active Campaign (email), ActiveMember360 (plugin to give members access) and Thrive Theme for the layout and design of the funnel/delivery area.
Great video! love the $1 idea, one question I did have.. does the stripe integration for click funnels support the $1 trail + re-bill feature? I can't seem to figure out how to implement that $1 trial, I can only find the option to offer a free trial
Cool video mate..., My question is : Are you scaling the same as or similar to what Mike Dillard is doing with his List Grow example? If not why not? Realistically, is 6 months enough time to build test and scale to say 10,000 members?
I think I misunderstood your comment... One thing to keep in mind. Mike Dillard's membership that this 'how to' is based on never got above 3,500 or so members. So he didn't even make it to 10k Another thing... He isn't running this style business anymore, he is simply selling the how to, now.
Thanks for the reply Miles. I'm just about to start setting up a membership system. Looking to model through your video series . I see how you used Mike Dillards system but then moved away from click funnels. I haven't done his course but was considering it until i found you...So Mike's 1000+ daily subscribers aren't all joining his membership but are all joining his list? Is that how he built it up to the 6 figure months? By upselling to his list?I need to figure out exactly how hes doing this. Any advice will be hugely appreciated!
He had like 3500 people paying $37 per month... I think 2 or 3% of his subscribers bought... And he paid for all the traffic from Facebook ads. This is the basis of his program is this funnel: www.milesbeckler.com/six-figure-membership-funnel-hack/
Hello Miles, I want to build my membership website with Thrive themes and I'm still collecting information about everything that I need. One thing that I'm not sure can be done if I use Thrive Cart to integrate with my WordPress membership site. Meaning by the time of purchase, an account is created and credentials are being sent to the user. Is this something that can be done only with Thrive Themes and Thrive Cart? Thanks, -Vlad
You need a plugin that will interface between thrive cart and thrive themes... The plugin would give access to specific pages for customers after they buy.
Hi Miles, been finishing up an hour long VSL planned to sell a $27 product (originally $149) plus bonuses, among them is a FREE 30 day trial membership, billed at $27 monthly thereafter. So I'm just putting them right in like Dan Kennedy suggests. Do you see any issue with this approach?
Great question and honestly this is a little bit of a danger zone... Russell Brunson got his merchant accounts shut down because of all the chargebacks he received from a system like this. The FTC also started cracking down on forced memberships in the upsell positions. I would at least require them to do a dollar trial forced them to click a button or check a box saying that there open to the dollar trial that will re-bill at $27 per month... That's a minimum. Personally, I only promote my dollar trial and monthly recurring membership program separately because I wanted to be incredibly clear that they're getting on a billing program. If people don't realize they're being charged monthly look at a statement and have five charges and five months for something they've never used, there to go straight to your merchant account with chargebacks and that can cause all kinds of problems if it happens a lot.
We just launched that new approach about a month ago! Kind of some internal reasons that are closely related to the fact that we were still 'selling' the items that went into the membership at retail... And it just didn't make sense to have a $1 give access to something we sold for $17 (we drop these twice a month) So now it is $37 to get the item today and hundreds more in value! Definitely a lower conversion rate, but it looks like a higher retention rate, so it will take a few months to really get the data I'm after...
@@MilesB Hi miles! Wondering if you could make a quick update video on that method? the reply you gave here is really interesting, and I'm wondering if there's some new data or insights you can share about this model (like does the "free video reveals" approach still work for you, or did you switch that for a lead magnet optin instead). tnx so much, hope you'll get this!
Instead of sending cold traffic to your membership funnel, wouldn't it be a lot more cost efficient to market it to your list instead after you've captured them as a lead?
I have two funnels that I 'stack' on eachother... My main funnel offers an OTO of a course... Then in email 4 (I believe) in the follow up sequence they hear about the membership... Then again around day 10 and a couple times per month for life.... Indeed this is the best converting traffic. That said, I do send cold traffic directly to the membership opt in page, then offer the membership as an OTO... Not as good of conversions, but there is a list in place here that follows up with them after they opt in to nurture them too... If they don't join after that list completes, I move them to the other list mentioned above to offer different items.
I don't have a membership in this Internet marketing or entrepreneur space... Just our niche one that my wife runs and I help out on the backend but it's not relevant to the content here
Miles.....you should! Your videos are very informative and valuable. I have a membership site running now for a few years and I have so many questions about it. Do you privately consult? I'm a business coach specialising in the beauty industry and I coach strategy, leadership and management. I'm in Australia.
So it seems to me that you started this business about 10 months ago as that's when your video started to pop up. You have a great CV according to LinkedIn. Is there a way that you could spend some time with me on the phone to answer some of my questions as I would rather not post them. Because I think these to be money making opportunities
I don't do any one-on-on consulting... sorry mate. This video thing is a side project. My real business is with my wife and we are full time on that (hence me having no free time).... Plus we travel a lot. Keep in mind that I built my first websites in the late 1990's and made my first money online in 2003... Took me until 2010 to go 'full time' when I was doing mostly service based work. Full time from the website income took until 2013. It is a long path that requires a lot of pushing forward into the unknown and adapting... But it is possible.
This was awesome and it seems like it could be applied to just about anything that people buy on a regular basis. Also, good to see you in a baseball cap for once. Clearly your rocking a man bun under that hat.
I do know people who have leveraged this for physical products, supplements and higher ticket items... Me in a ballcap? Wait, wha? lol... #ManbunFreeForever
How do you replace the monthly charge when they opt in for the yearly charge? I can't seem to prevent the monthly and yearly charge from both occurring
I log in every day and manually remove the monthly when there is an annual... The 7 day trial period saves them from getting charged twice... And then I outsourced it to my VA who does it every day, now.
Hi Miles do you still find this type of membership funnel to be working? Many people are doing low ticket offer funnels now, is the free opt in still working well for you?
Absolutely... We dont run paid traffic to the opt in as much anymore (to the dollar trial directly) but it still generates a solid 5-figure monthly recurring income
Thanks for the quick reply @@MilesB. Do you know any others who use this strategy that have business' other than helping others make money? I help seemed hopelessly disorganized people get organized in 8 weeks or less. It works, I have years of testimonials and success stories, but I find it a very different situation than for those that I know that teach marketing and internet sales etc. I'm just wondering of your experience in this regard. I'm nervous to try this.
If I created a free e-book, about information, let's say for dental implants, I then do a paper click campaign and the people who download the free e-book, Then go to my thank you Paige, I didn't generate a email list and snail mail list, what is another good company to send typical snail mail advertising to their house
Asking for email address only will get you a WAY higher conversion rate than trying to get the full snail mail address... The more you ask for the less people will make it through. That said, I use this greeting card service because greeting cards get through gatekeepers and get opened by the intended recipient: www.milesbeckler.com/cards Typical 'junk mail' hits the trash more than cards... People can't not open a card! hahahaha.
Since I really don't have time to make all of this happen, can you recommend someone on fiver to assist me put everything together and I will build the videos myself
I don't have anyone on Fiverr I recommend... Better to look for someone on UpWork for that kind of service since it is much more complex. If you want to build it yourself, you can use this tutorial (or they can) th-cam.com/video/YsUNFZhqkEA/w-d-xo.html Have had viewers go through that whole thing and build out their funnel in an afternoon before...
I'm that guy commenting on a 7 year old video (sorry). Are you still using this in 2024? We have an established membership platform and are looking for the best approach to scale on the front end. Love your videos, thank you!
"How can I take what I do into a monthly membership process (funnel)". I just watched Mike's Webinar and your review. Time to think! Thank you for your excellent review of both Mike Dillard's impact and clarification of this online entrepreneurial innovation. Just missed the 1 hr. deadline by Mike today...THINKING...
ALL of these videos have been simply brilliant... I'm very much a beginner and learning as I move along. This is really helping... great stuff!
Glad you are enjoying them!!!
Miles, awesome videos, how do I get on your list? Thanks!
No list yet... So busy with my main site and new funnels + new FB campaigns. Soon, tho!
The smile on your face when you said tax bill was priceless.
Still learning to love that one...
Man Bro!! Super Excited about this video! Thanks for all you do, your content has been some of the best and I have been watch a lot for the past 3 months or so. Learning tons, thanks!
Cheers Cory, glad you found the content… Especially this one! People spent thousands to hear this live… :D
Excellent video content! Forgive me for butting in, I would appreciate your thoughts. Have you tried - Donichrel Membership Meticulous (just google it)? It is a good one off guide for learning how to start your own lucrative online business without the normal expense. Ive heard some amazing things about it and my buddy got cool success with it.
Is this program, the way you described, on thrive themes? How is the membership program where it is $1, then charges after $8 setup? Stripe Subscriptions?
Hi Miles. I watched like 50 of your videos here. Easy to understand and straight to the point. I like this video especially because its like visual and you can understand the process. Do you have some tweaks on this "sketch" on particular for 2019. Do you use the same exact funnel as here in 2019?
As always excellent content Miles... right to to point, so gld to know you. Four really quick questions : 1. For the 7 days 1$ trial subscribers, do you give them access to all you past content or are they limited to only a couple of videos until they become a 37$/month member or a 197$/year member ? Mike Dillard only makes 3 videos available for his 1$ 14 days trial... 2. How many pieces of content, and how long, do you produce per month Ex: 0ne 15-30 minutes videos per month or more ? 3. I guess members can ask you questions under each video lesson ? 4. Do you have a private Facebook group only available for members of your membership program ?
The trial members get access to only a part of our overall content... We drip out additional content every month they continue to pay. This way every time they make a payment there are new items available for them reinforcing the value exchange of the transaction. Annual members also receive monthly drip items, they don't get the whole year at once...
We produce approximately 3 to 6 new audio files per month, one members only Q&A video and a few bonus live streams in our Facebook group. With that said it is totally different depending on the niche and what you offer. This works for us.
Yes we have a private Facebook group and that is working very well to's per additional discussions.
Thank you Miles... keep the good work my friend!
I'm currently offering a 7 day free trial before automatically billing the $25/month membership. Is there an advantage to $1 trial vs free? I've been seeing more opt-ins since implementing the free trial but about 40% of that new traffic is cancelling before Day 8, wondering if it's because they aren't "invested" in it, even if it's just $1?
So on your seven day, free trial do they input their credit card? If so can you offer an annual upsell immediately after the free trial starts?
This is why we run the dollar trial is because we get their credit card number, they become a customer, then we offer them an annual upsell on the next page that's a one click upsell since the party enter their credit card.
If your system can do that with a free trial that would work, but someone who takes you up on a free trial is not a paying customer yet someone who takes you on a one dollar trial is a paying customer... Is a big psychological difference to people who become customers and a higher likelihood they will pay you more in the future!!!
Yes they need to enter their credit card to sign up for the 7 day trial, it automatically bills them $25 on Day 8 unless they cancel during the trial and this is all very obviously stated to them during sign up.
I think the annual upsell is what I'm missing and what I will add in. Right now monthly is my only option. thanks :)
That was a huge upgrade for our membership program! I talk about the 'angle' of the upsell video here and more about that funnel: www.milesbeckler.com/six-figure-membership-funnel-hack/
It is my correct understanding that right now this is not usually the funnel that you lead with cold traffic. From your videos it looks like you us a self liquidating offer >> Email Submit >> OTO >> One time upsell to run cold traffic and then after building a relationship with the email list using retargeting and look alike audiences and email broadcast to advertise your membership site? Am I correct on this?
Hi Miles - Great video and blog post! I have 3 questions, if you'd be so kind to answer:
1 - Is the 2% conversion on the OTO 1 is of ALL ad clicks, or of those who opted in? 2 - Is the $1 trial an automatic billing if they don't cancel? 3- Do you hide the buy button, price and monthly payment until the video reveals the offer?
I have a younger audience on my youtube and I've been hesitant to make a monthly subscription any more than $8/mo. Am I undercutting myself or should I keep the price tag low to have higher retention?
Testing will tell... And it is not a commodity, but it is all about what you help them with. I would recommend testing at least $17/mo to see if you get a similar conversion rate... That is what... Like 52 cents per day? Still super cheap!
Great video Miles. I have List Grow program and between your input and Mike's I am excited to get my membership offer and program underway. Thanks for all you do to assist entrepreneurs! Diane
Right on Diane! keep with it and you will find your unique path to success!
Yes! Thank you and truly appreciate all the valuable information you provide! Best to you and your family in 2018 and beyond!
Miles, I have a question... what should one expect as a healthy retention rate for your membership site?
I heard most people only stay for 3 months on average and I thought that was low if you are keeping them engaged and providing value. Thanks, Diane
Catherine Galma-Tucker
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Hi Miles,
Great discuss and curiosity in finding out more about Russell Branson's toy, Clickfunnels brought me to your site.
Finding you has somehow succeeded in calming down my boiling blood and I believe that I may finally be on to something that would enable me to at last achieve my goal in Internet Marketing.
I now want your opinion on how to choose between your business model and that of Mike Dillard - I need to sign up to study under the direction and guidance of a serious mentor without having to break the Bank to get what I need to have done. I have operated a brick and mortar ethnic cosmetics business for over 3 decades and can't complain about my blessings - however, being so close to retirement, I need a digital product or membership site that would allow me to teach members all that I had learned and known in my business so that the younger generation can also learn from it and take it to higher and more prosperous heights. Possible or just a dream?
Definitely possible... Do you have a clear understanding of who you are best suited to help? The audience you will serve? And what problems/questions you can help them with?
That is the biggest part, then build a list by giving them great content and then build a relationship with them via email.
Have you seen my free course? www.milesbeckler.com/millions
I love this FUNNEL! Thank you for sharing
Hi Miles - really loving all your videos, and learning a lot. I have a question: I have a membership business that already has 2 tiers, a $25/month level and a $99/month level. I love the idea of the $1 trial - going to add that right away. But how would you recommend someone going about upselling through two levels? Separate the offers? Wait and offer an upsell at a later time? I'd love your thoughts- and thanks in advance!
+David-Dorian Ross it depends... Are you giving them the two options before checkout? If so you could make them both dollar trial -> annual
If you sell the 25 only and upsell the 99 then you could add the annual on the back end of that... If they say no to 99 they get the annual 25 downslope... If they say yes to the 99 you can follow that with an annual upsell offer.
Currently I'm giving people both options before checkout - and frankly it's not a very sophisticated offer page at the moment. I started with the $99 membership only for members who come to live classes, and only recently figured out a way to offer a lower-priced level for members who would only get recorded classes. (The higher priced membership includes the recorded classes btw)
I never thought of offering them the option of a $1 trial for either. That's brilliant- thank you!
As you move forward, one other thing I felt nudged to share is that options can often cause confusion... Confusion causes people to take no option.
Sometimes it is better to create a 'yes or no' path for them.... It removes a ton of friction.
So, selling them on the $25 course at $1 trial being the sole focus of that sales page... Then offer them the upsell to the 'live version' on the one click upsell.... To $99/mo.
This could bill immediately or you could have it start on day 7, too.
Then if they say yes to that, you can offer them a whole year for 50% off, one payment now of $497 or $397 if you'd like.
IF they say no to the $99 you can offer them the full year of the $25 membership for $97 or some crazy good deal....
Every step you are simply asking 'yes or no' never a choice beyond that.
And, you are giving them better and better deals as they move forward through the funnel, so it is positioned as 'You are going to need to practice this all year, change takes time, etc.... If you are willing to commit for a year, I'll give you a deal, now'
So it isn't like you are 'selling more' you are actually helping them 'save money over the year'
Then, you get those annual upsells which bill immediately and BOOM your advertising budget jumps up and up and up, letting you run more ads and scale relatively quickly.
Lots of moving parts there, but it is totally doable and once all setup could be a wicked-powerful funnel that allows you to market a $1 item that could result in ~$500 sales.
If you need help putting something like this together on the tech side, my buddy Dave at www.integratepro.com could wire this all up for you, for sure. He did my migration and got my membership all setup on the new system when I moved... Great dude. Didn't want to leave you swimming in the 'oh shit, that sounds horribly complex'-swamp. :D
This is just brilliant, Miles. Thank you for sharing. 👍🏻😃
Great to hear from you Anders! ....And glad you liked this!
Hi Milles, thanks for the information. Really useful. In addition to the topic that you address, I want to know what program you use to transmit and record your videos. I mean the possibility of showing your camera and your screen simultaneously. What program do you use?
Nice variation on the three funnel stack, thanks.
This is epic, thank you so much for this great information. You really got my creativity working.
Hey Miles, now that I finished my membership funnel w/ $1 trial, I have a question to clarify my understanding of the conversion figures you show on your funnel videos.
So, for your $27 OTO funnel with an OCU if I remember correctly you quoted about 2% conversion on the OTO and around 50% conversion for the OCU. Now, with the $1 membership trial as the first offer the lead sees, and given the low entry cost of a buck, do you get a higher rate than 2% or about same? How about the membership OCU? 50% as well? Thanks!!
Higher on the trial, but not much... 3% or so. One click upsell is closer to 30% or so.
What tool do you use to create your illustrations? I love the stick figures, font, and boxes.
Hi Miles, I have a channel that I teach start up and struggling contractors the business side of contracting and I was wondering what exactly to put into a membership site.
advanced trainings, templates, how to close clients, how to submit proposals, how to follow up, how to drive more leads, how to rank on Google, how to increase profits, how to hire, when to fire, how to manage books, how to fill up retirement accounts, how to pay less in taxes, etc.
@@MilesB Thank you sir! Great response. Really helped.
Hi mate, Thanks a lot for the wonderful video. Can I ask two questions? 1- where do you advertise the first video? I mean if the website is new the traffic to the website is negligible for people to watch the fist video. 2- I like the idea of $1 option but if I want to charge them by paypal, isn't the cot of paypal for me more than $1?
Thanks heaps
Can you share more about the specific content you provide members within the Membership Funnel...
love this internet marketing hack!!
Great to hear!
Hi Miles - can you tell me anything about the Facebook ad copy you used to drive traffic to the landing page? For example, would you use the "Free video reveals..." in your headline and the "Get a 7 Day Trial for only $1" in your subheadline... or something else?
wow!!! Yes Sir!! I have the perfect product, and niche, but i gotta figure out the particulars of how to piece this system together for what i can offer.
I lay it out in step-by-step format on this post (has all the videos and some extra text/ideas from me on it): www.milesbeckler.com/clickfunnels-alternative
Hi Miles. Just wanted to say thanks for all the awesome free content. I have been struggling with my memberships sites mainly in providing content. I have been in the survival nich with a fb fan page of 31k and a closed group of 6k people but have been hesitant to really push traffic to my membership as Im not sure of the best way to provide training. So I am going into a new niche as I am a speaker and will make videos of my self on my chosen topic. What do you recommend for creating content for members?
To create content from members it's all about knowing your members… Who are they? Where are they in their lives? What are their biggest problems? Challenges? Fears? Desires?
Create solutions to their problems and help them achieve their desires... You have the side benefit of this large fan page and group. If you don't know what their fears and desires are, ask them!
Off the top of my head, I assume that they're very into the DIY stuff which lends itself to info products quite well. I know that a lot of these people are also very consumer focused because fear drives them to purchase more survival stuff.
All in all, it'll take a bunch of testing before you really solidify what works best for you and your audience and what they respond to.
Hey Miles great information. Do you include the $1 trial offer on the same page as the free video?? Or, Does the free video/training lead another page that includes the $1 offer? Also, do you know who I could get to do the custom coding for the $1 offer in clickfunnels?
Hey Miles!
Very cool video! Thanks! I just have a few questions. What kind of information you give your members every month that they stay with you over 30 months? Can you give some examples please?
And can you give a link to your membership site too please? I'll appreciate it. Thanks!
Meditations and spiritual development courses... My integration guy works with a membership site owner who has had paying members for over 5 years!!!!! th-cam.com/video/Wrz00t_S1p0/w-d-xo.html
Wow cool! Based on your exaperience can you recommend what kind of content is best to give to members monthly so to give them the greatest value? For example if your membership site was about business marketing like on youtube etc what kind of monthly content would you create?
BTW, I'm just curious why are you making content about websites etc. if you have meditations and spiritual development courses? :)
Hi Miles! GREAT video! Thanks for sharing your expertise! Do you think this would work for a 1 on 1 personal coaching program?
+paulcbrady absolutely
Miles you talk about a support team is that something you're doing yourself or you outsourcing that
Outsourced. We used to do it all until 18 months ago. It was taking up 3 to 4 hours per day...
really awesome idea! I am considering purchasing the List-Grow course but I am having a hard time thinking of what to offer on a membership basis. Any suggestions on what niche's this business model is good for? Might take a chance at the physical product concept.
+Rashaun Townsend I like digital products and honestly the real reason that course worked so well for me is because I already had a membership... It needs to be something you are passionate about because it is a lot of work!
Thanks, Miles! Will do some deep digging. Mind sharing the name or site of the guy using the supplements model?
Very interesting stuff. I am thinking of building up a membership program for learning communication. I still feel a little bit unsure if I can provide enough value with training sequences via e-mail every two days. I have to think about a little bit more about membership programs. It would be very interesting if you share your thoughts on membership-programs.
Perfect You are such a Business genie
Amazing content. I have been watching your videos everyday since I came across your content. Question: How do I start the Membership Site, upload courses etc. I already have 28 Courses on Udemy and I offer one to one consulting too. Do you have a video for this?
Thanks so much Miles
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Hey Miles. I'm setting up a membership site now with ClickFunnels. I see the members area where the courses go, but I feel like the membership should have like a forum or something for members to communicate. Does your sites have more than just the courses or do you offer more in the membership area?
Audrey, I was not exactly satisfied with the user experience inside of the members area so I have made a move at this point.... Check out this post for more information: www.milesbeckler.com/why-i-left-clickfunnels/
Thanks Miles. I will check out that article. What platform are you currently using and what's the link to your membership sites?
We are using a wordpress based system with Thrive Cart (checkout), Active Campaign (email), ActiveMember360 (plugin to give members access) and Thrive Theme for the layout and design of the funnel/delivery area.
So helpful for a newbie like me !
great to hear
pretty neat, this is the first time i have heard of creating a membership website, but what are some examples of membership websites?
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Great video! love the $1 idea, one question I did have.. does the stripe integration for click funnels support the $1 trail + re-bill feature? I can't seem to figure out how to implement that $1 trial, I can only find the option to offer a free trial
Takes custom coding on CF
Cool video mate..., My question is : Are you scaling the same as or similar to what Mike Dillard is doing with his List Grow example? If not why not? Realistically, is 6 months enough time to build test and scale to say 10,000 members?
Wow... You scaled your membership to 10,000 members in 6 months?!?!
That is impressive...
I think I misunderstood your comment... One thing to keep in mind. Mike Dillard's membership that this 'how to' is based on never got above 3,500 or so members. So he didn't even make it to 10k
Another thing... He isn't running this style business anymore, he is simply selling the how to, now.
Thanks for the reply Miles. I'm just about to start setting up a membership system. Looking to model through your video series . I see how you used Mike Dillards system but then moved away from click funnels. I haven't done his course but was considering it until i found you...So Mike's 1000+ daily subscribers aren't all joining his membership but are all joining his list? Is that how he built it up to the 6 figure months? By upselling to his list?I need to figure out exactly how hes doing this. Any advice will be hugely appreciated!
He had like 3500 people paying $37 per month... I think 2 or 3% of his subscribers bought... And he paid for all the traffic from Facebook ads.
This is the basis of his program is this funnel: www.milesbeckler.com/six-figure-membership-funnel-hack/
Thanks my man. Loving these videos..
Hello Miles,
I want to build my membership website with Thrive themes and I'm still collecting information about everything that I need. One thing that I'm not sure can be done if I use Thrive Cart to integrate with my WordPress membership site. Meaning by the time of purchase, an account is created and credentials are being sent to the user. Is this something that can be done only with Thrive Themes and Thrive Cart?
Thanks,
-Vlad
You need a plugin that will interface between thrive cart and thrive themes... The plugin would give access to specific pages for customers after they buy.
Sorry for all the question but i appreciate your help
Do you have any coupons with you name on it so you can get the credit for it
I have a few tools I recommend : www.milesbeckler.com/recommended-resources/
And a few courses: www.milesbeckler.com/recommended-courses/
Miles, this is very informative. I have couples questions but i would like to email you the questions instead.
I don't do any email consulting.
ok. thanks anyways.
Hi Miles, been finishing up an hour long VSL planned to sell a $27 product (originally $149) plus bonuses, among them is a FREE 30 day trial membership, billed at $27 monthly thereafter. So I'm just putting them right in like Dan Kennedy suggests. Do you see any issue with this approach?
Great question and honestly this is a little bit of a danger zone... Russell Brunson got his merchant accounts shut down because of all the chargebacks he received from a system like this. The FTC also started cracking down on forced memberships in the upsell positions.
I would at least require them to do a dollar trial forced them to click a button or check a box saying that there open to the dollar trial that will re-bill at $27 per month... That's a minimum.
Personally, I only promote my dollar trial and monthly recurring membership program separately because I wanted to be incredibly clear that they're getting on a billing program.
If people don't realize they're being charged monthly look at a statement and have five charges and five months for something they've never used, there to go straight to your merchant account with chargebacks and that can cause all kinds of problems if it happens a lot.
ok, great tip. So if I offer it, I should have a "no thanks" button as well. thanks Miles!
If they don't click accept the OTO then it's never offered again?
For us, you are correct. It truly is a 'one time' offer
Do you have tutorials or training to set this thing up 😀
Hey Miles. I saw that you are not running click funnels anymore. What funnel system do you use now?
Miles ....thanks for video. Never thought of this ...any ideas of where I can get ideas on what niche to go into with membership site 2019. Sincerely!
Hey Miles, watching this again (had it bookmarked) in 2018. It looks like you moved away from $1 trial? And just go for discounted one time buy in?
We just launched that new approach about a month ago! Kind of some internal reasons that are closely related to the fact that we were still 'selling' the items that went into the membership at retail... And it just didn't make sense to have a $1 give access to something we sold for $17 (we drop these twice a month)
So now it is $37 to get the item today and hundreds more in value!
Definitely a lower conversion rate, but it looks like a higher retention rate, so it will take a few months to really get the data I'm after...
@@MilesB Hi miles! Wondering if you could make a quick update video on that method? the reply you gave here is really interesting, and I'm wondering if there's some new data or insights you can share about this model (like does the "free video reveals" approach still work for you, or did you switch that for a lead magnet optin instead).
tnx so much, hope you'll get this!
Instead of sending cold traffic to your membership funnel, wouldn't it be a lot more cost efficient to market it to your list instead after you've captured them as a lead?
I have two funnels that I 'stack' on eachother... My main funnel offers an OTO of a course... Then in email 4 (I believe) in the follow up sequence they hear about the membership... Then again around day 10 and a couple times per month for life.... Indeed this is the best converting traffic.
That said, I do send cold traffic directly to the membership opt in page, then offer the membership as an OTO... Not as good of conversions, but there is a list in place here that follows up with them after they opt in to nurture them too... If they don't join after that list completes, I move them to the other list mentioned above to offer different items.
Cool! Yea i love your idea of offering them the membership at intervals periodically.
Hi Miles. Been binge watching your videos. Can you please provide me with details of joining your membership site?
I don't have a membership in this Internet marketing or entrepreneur space... Just our niche one that my wife runs and I help out on the backend but it's not relevant to the content here
Miles.....you should! Your videos are very informative and valuable. I have a membership site running now for a few years and I have so many questions about it. Do you privately consult? I'm a business coach specialising in the beauty industry and I coach strategy, leadership and management. I'm in Australia.
I don't do any consulting at this time... Too busy with my main business.
Awesome. Thanks for this video
My pleasure!
Do you add them to a Facebook group?
So it seems to me that you started this business about 10 months ago as that's when your video started to pop up. You have a great CV according to LinkedIn. Is there a way that you could spend some time with me on the phone to answer some of my questions as I would rather not post them. Because I think these to be money making opportunities
I don't do any one-on-on consulting... sorry mate. This video thing is a side project. My real business is with my wife and we are full time on that (hence me having no free time).... Plus we travel a lot.
Keep in mind that I built my first websites in the late 1990's and made my first money online in 2003... Took me until 2010 to go 'full time' when I was doing mostly service based work. Full time from the website income took until 2013.
It is a long path that requires a lot of pushing forward into the unknown and adapting... But it is possible.
This was awesome and it seems like it could be applied to just about anything that people buy on a regular basis. Also, good to see you in a baseball cap for once. Clearly your rocking a man bun under that hat.
I do know people who have leveraged this for physical products, supplements and higher ticket items...
Me in a ballcap? Wait, wha? lol... #ManbunFreeForever
STUD. LOVE IT....
Cheers
How can you ad me to your list for helping doctors with click funnels and the dollar subscription
Not sure what you are asking here... I don't really do anything with Clickfunnels at this point... And I don't do service work.
Powerful 💥
thanks
How do you replace the monthly charge when they opt in for the yearly charge? I can't seem to prevent the monthly and yearly charge from both occurring
* I'm using clickfunnels and stripe
I log in every day and manually remove the monthly when there is an annual... The 7 day trial period saves them from getting charged twice... And then I outsourced it to my VA who does it every day, now.
Sweet! This was my question. Smart move!
Hi Miles do you still find this type of membership funnel to be working? Many people are doing low ticket offer funnels now, is the free opt in still working well for you?
Absolutely... We dont run paid traffic to the opt in as much anymore (to the dollar trial directly) but it still generates a solid 5-figure monthly recurring income
@@MilesB thank you
How to market it?
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Great Video
hello Miles, would you help me put together my membership business. my website is 95% complete. I will need your help putting a funnel together.
I don't do any client work or consulting... That said, I have a video series that shows you how, here: www.milesbeckler.com/clickfunnels-alternative
How is this still working for you Miles. You posted this video in 2016, is it still going for you?
Crushing it!
Thanks for the quick reply @@MilesB. Do you know any others who use this strategy that have business' other than helping others make money? I help seemed hopelessly disorganized people get organized in 8 weeks or less. It works, I have years of testimonials and success stories, but I find it a very different situation than for those that I know that teach marketing and internet sales etc. I'm just wondering of your experience in this regard. I'm nervous to try this.
If I created a free e-book, about information, let's say for dental implants, I then do a paper click campaign and the people who download the free e-book, Then go to my thank you Paige, I didn't generate a email list and snail mail list, what is another good company to send typical snail mail advertising to their house
Asking for email address only will get you a WAY higher conversion rate than trying to get the full snail mail address... The more you ask for the less people will make it through.
That said, I use this greeting card service because greeting cards get through gatekeepers and get opened by the intended recipient: www.milesbeckler.com/cards
Typical 'junk mail' hits the trash more than cards... People can't not open a card! hahahaha.
Anyone out there making at lest 5k per month in subscriptions with a membership site in the none bizop space?
My wife is in the spiritual space... Good friends in NZ are in weight loss/fitness.
@@MilesB Thanks for the reply, In your opinion how long would it take to get to 5k per month using paid traffic like FB
Since I really don't have time to make all of this happen, can you recommend someone on fiver to assist me put everything together and I will build the videos myself
I don't have anyone on Fiverr I recommend... Better to look for someone on UpWork for that kind of service since it is much more complex. If you want to build it yourself, you can use this tutorial (or they can) th-cam.com/video/YsUNFZhqkEA/w-d-xo.html
Have had viewers go through that whole thing and build out their funnel in an afternoon before...
Great Video