I was apart of Lukumi and received a few initiations. The people told me that I could practice what they taught and still go to church but something didn’t sit right with me. My life was falling apart. I had lost everything, even my mind. But I found my way back to Christ and dismantled all those altars and threw out everything and literally my life has been restored and I have so much peace and joy these days. I am so glad that God did not harden my heart. Thank you Jesus.
@ I’m not mad at all, I’m just holding your accountable for your Nonsense. Instead of taking responsibilities for your failures, you blame Lucumi. Now you didn’t refute what I said, you just claimed Im “demon” possessed.
@@rasone9172 like I said, that tradition is full of demonic rituals. Don’t you got a ceremony you need to be at or preparing for? Because once I left that stuff alone and dismantled them altars my life has been amazing. Moved to California and it’s beautiful here. Go be great. Go feed your ori some shea butter.
I LOVE Dr. Bantu’s passion not only for the historical context but when he starts going in talking about Jesus, bruhhhhhhhhhh his passion goes beyond 💯!!! That’s true “on FIIIIRE” for the Kingdom of God! I’m so glad I was led to watch this episode..Myyyyyyyy God! To you two King’s 🥰 God bless you for your diversity on this show!! This one was EXTREMELY amazing🙏🏾🙏🏾! I’m looking forward to following you in 2025!!
I am loving that these conversations are happening! There is so much nuance to many of these areas, but having these discussions helps us arrive at the truth. The Holy Spirit truly LEADS us into all truth. Much love HI ❤
THIS episode has really been an eye opener for me!!! This makes more sense than any other episode I’ve seen about Christianity. Thank you brothers and keep letting the Father use you to teach us!!!!
Simple answer is yes. Speaking from experience and comparing ancestral veneration to Christianity. It's one thing to honour people's legagcy but to lift them to something they are NOT is blindness. Ancestor cannot control our world. Demons posing as them (familiar spirits) can. The consequences of following them is never pleasant. I really love what he said about discerning what is good in our cultures. I first came across this concept with inculturation in the Catholic Church. When done properly, it's the best thing! This is not information overload. We don't have enough of these conversations. BTW God specifically banned child sacrifice in Leviticus 18:21. It was done in worship to Molech. So yes, that was as good as witchcraft because it was an act of Rebellion towards God [1 Samuel 15:23]. Whether or not people were conscious of it, it was a sin in God's eyes and that should be the focus. PS Please could you compile a booklist when guests like these come up? You could ask them to share it with you beforehand. Thank you. Lol. I suspected Angela was Bamileke when I first heard her.
That's only your experience, there is a whole difference, and plus have You really ever had contact or any connection with the African gods? If you have not contacted them nor had any type of sign from them then you can't talk about them, and also witch has a whole different means from this mainstream misunderstanding
1 Samuel 15:23 "For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft..." Anything against the influence of Elohim is influenced by something else... witchcraft is that easy to fall into
I will never understand the act of worshiping ancestors. I love my grandmother who passed away but couldn't imagine my great great grandkids worshiping her in the future.
It’s not ancestor worship. You venerate, acknowledge, and affirm your ancestors. It’s the law of physics that states that once something is alive its energy can never die but it transforms into something else. Traditional African science and systems know this but it takes someone like Einstein to say it before black people accept it. Guess that saying about their ice being colder…….never mind
Dr. Bantu spoke at my church in BR, LA almost about 2 years ago, and he was so full of knowledge, so educational and inspirational. Awesome to see him here! 🔥
Thank you guys for having an actual scholar discuss the history of our Bible. I had to tune out for a few weeks because I felt the previous discussions were losing value due to being centered around opinions, debates, and politics. This discussion was informative, productive, and gave glory to God! 🙌🏽
In one year y’all have had all my favorite well respected guests. Y’all even had people that I never thought I would see come on the platform. Definitely the best Podcast shows right now.
I just love love love this podcast and how you men are bringing multiple perspectives and topics to the for front. I’ve never been on a dating site on social media but with y’all channel I’m thinking about trying it. Also thank you Dr. Vince Bantu for all your knowledge and for Solomon 1:5-7 because I too did not know about this scripture n now I’m going to study 🙏🏽👏🏽🙌🏽
Dr. Bantu is a treasure amongst black theologians. Very well read and gives sources to support his information! Thank you my brothers for having the good doctor! Blessings and peace to your show!
Song of Songs 1:5-7🤯 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 Whew! The late Pastor Stephen Darby & the Truth Unedited channel have helped me kinda understand my race in relation to biblical scripture but this was by far the simplest 💣 drop about it and it JUST clicked. Hallelujah, Glory to God!
@@js9849 You are here again with your “who wrote the word “. Even if God himself had written the word you still would be finding a problem with the word, you still will be questioning it saying how do you know it’s actually God who wrote it. I will ask you again, if whatever you say is your culture and was written down and not passed from generation to generation by word of mouth wouldn’t that be in a book?, and it would be in a book written by human beings and not spirits.
I'm glad i checked the comments because I thought this episode was going to promote African spiritualism. This was really good and affirming. More of us need to know this.
Dr. Vince Bantu is a very well respected theologians. I have been following his career since he was a graduate student traveling the world learning about the roots of African religions
@keelhe893 This guy wasn't properly Vetted: Vince Bantu Fired After Fuller Seminary Investigation Oct 24, 2024 Pastors Accuse Rising Christian Scholar Vince Bantu of Polygamy Oct 1, 2024 Covenant Seminary Provides Statement Regarding Former Professor and student Sep 24, 2024 Some how he got twisted up in his walk and are misleading the people. Stick with the Scriptures and stop being so gullible. There's a lot of PhD's in hell among others. Jesus said, I am the way and the truth and the life.
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So glad he addressed what Jesus said to Peter don’t call anything I created common or unclean. I was screaming for someone to quote that during the debate with the Israelite and pastors the other day thank God.
This verse? Acts 10:15 (KJV): "And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common." Thats the bringing back into the fold the gentiles. Those of the northern kingdom tribes that strayed far into idolatry and broke away from God’s way of living. There’s a reason why even in revelation the kingdom of heaven will have12 gates for the 12 tribes. Don’t ignore this.
@ thank you, Loni I acknowledge the chosen ones! And I humbly submit however Jesus provided a way that even the dogs could receive crumbs from the masters table thanks be to God! Matthews 15:21-28 through 28
Any religion or Spiritual belief system who rejects Jesus Christ as God, Lord and Savior who became Man, died for our sins, who was resurrected and is now sitting at the right hand of the Father and is coming back to judge all who hates and rejects Him that religion or belief is of Satan the devil ❤
Mark 7:6-9 - He answered and said to them, Well did Esaias prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honor me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things you do. And he said to them, Full well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your own tradition (Romans 3:4).
That is from a religious Outlook and not a spiritual one, you are speaking because you don't know anything outside your own custom nor are you willing to understand anything outside your custom
You do not have the authority or power to condemn other cultures or religions. You can exalt Christ and not condemn other people. Judaism says the worst things about our lord and savior but no one says this about Jews
Shoutouts to y'all for having Dr. Vince up there. I've learned soooooo much from him since I first discovered him via The Jude 3 Project. 👏🏾 #iSalute Side note: There were waaaayyy too many commercials in throughout this video. TH-cam is doing too much. 🤦🏾♂️
Loooooved this!! We need the knowledge. I pray we stop rejecting knowledge when it comes. Definitely looking forward to the debate. Bantu is going to crush it lol. Keep em coming. Love from the Caribbean ❤
This episode is the best ever. I’ve been to seminary and I’m Holy Spirit filled Christian Believer. I can relate to everything Dr. Bantu is lifting up for consideration. We all have free volition - out of this conversation we can choose. We are in time where all this is relevant but once you pass from this realm into eternity free volition will have ended. So when listening to this awesome dialogue don’t take it for granted. Consider this conversation and choose wisely.
We understand Yeshua, Bible and the theology brother, we are talking about the church as a system and institution. What is the church doing to stop colonialism and neocolonialism still going on in Africa, when is the church going to stand up to ensure it ends in its entirety?
Great discussion! Christ has birthed us into a new relationship as His bride, a family as adopted children and kingdom as His servants and royal priests. The world system including our human cultures are to be lightly esteemed at best or forgotten in comparison to what we have gained in Christ. I can support Brother Vance’s position if we caveat that position by acknowledging the following: our culture, my blackness and what survives post Christ is The Lords decision to make not ours. Paul counted what he had gained as dung that he might win Christ. Anything that is or appears to be sin within our culture has to be flushed. We cannot be distracted by any worldly affinities. Foods, clothing, attitudes and philosophies are all on the block for Christ. He takes our diversity and unites us in His kingdom.
““You shall not make for yourself any idol, or any likeness (form, manifestation) of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth [as an object to worship].” Exodus 20:4 AMP Anything that is worshipped outside of God disguised as ‘tradition’ or ‘African spirituality’ is demonic.
Again, linguistics is where we find ourselves separated. We see things and interpret based on what we have been taught. Our cognitive dissonance has been set by religious programming. Until we really take time to study cultures we will never fully understand.
I'm trying to listen to Hymns and sing those and the Psalms to praise God and encourage myself and others. Come out from among them and be ye separate. Be ye holy for I am holy, saith the Lord. Be ye transformed by the renewing of your minds. He that worships God must worship him in spirit and in truth. Holy holy holy is the lamb who was and is and is to come.
I couldn't continue watching the full video. I do appreciate some historical information that the brother shared. But, he offers 'a bridge too far' for me personally to cross, with regard to his expressing the mythology of Christianity and the Bible as Truth and factually and archeologically accurate. Simple question? How do you explain 'Adam & Eve's' birth as the beginning of humans per the Bible when archeology blatantly and factually disagree? There are many contradictions like this that just don't add up. Everyone speaks of religion as though life began relative to their messiah's rendition or story. Few speak about humans prior to that, 1000s of years prior, when spirituality was written on hearts at birth, instead of in various altered books. ~ Kevy Michaels
This brother has both correct and incorrect concepts. The story about Peter in the trace about food was about man, specifically Cornelius, not food. The other example about food sacrificed to idols is also taken out of context. It is written that the Most High is the same yesterday, today and forever. Please read the chapter before and after for context.
Israel is IN Africa. Older maps, which of course now you can't find anymore show that before the term "Middle East" was coined, and then when pressed they now say it's part of Asia (mhm🙄), it used to be common knowledge that Israel is a part of the continent of Africa. Even in the 70's the many African pendants, medallions, etc depicted Africa as it was on the maps that were at the time still in circulation: with Israel. Maps of Africa today look weird to me with that big chunk taken out, making it look like a dent in the continent. I'm not even going to get into ethnicities, but just know...🧠
It's because in America the white man was taught that Jesus was a more European looking Man but Jesus was a brown skinned Jewish Man so this is a wake up call for them we must pray for our brothers and sisters 🙏🏽
This man sat here and told us that North Africa and Egypt and Ethiopia were the dominant kingdoms in the whole of Africa … “before history began to develop in western part of the continent” this people is a man deeply roooted in Eurocentric thought. It’s one that places West Africa and the kingdoms that Europeans had less proximity to as not having history. The only reason he believes this is that it backs up his point that Christianity is basically dominant in Africa cos that is where all of African history is. Mind you Nok culture was present in Nigeria in 1500BCE, Djenne-Jeno was around 1000BCE and Ghana Empire is establish around the same time as the bible is being formalised.
English days of the week and months of the year are named after pagan deities or some form of pagan origin. For example, every time we say Thursday we are saying Thors day, but we don't really mean we are calling on Thor or worshiping Thor. I believe God gives us grace. We didn't invent our English language which borrows from so many other languages (Latin, Greek, French, German, etc.). Some people don't like to say "God" because if spelled backwards it's "Dog".
I’m not eating meet sacrificed to other gods. Paul was addressing The concerns about buying meat from butchers who sold meat sacrificed to idols. It doesn’t mean we should wilfully eat sacrificed meat.
I don’t understand how Christians celebrate holidays that have no root in the bible, however I don’t hear of them celebrating what the bible and Christ celebrated! 🧐
Even through we know Jesus wasn't born in December. They celebrate it to honor Jesus. That's why I'm glad. We don't know his birthday because people will worship that day.
@ if you know that’s not his birthdate why celebrate it? Also can you give me any further responses to the question I initially posed. I am genuinely curious about this!
@ thank you for your response, although no one is answering my initial question. I see Purim in the book of Esther, yes it was decreed by a man on the back of the most high grace and saving a set of people from death. Show me the scripture that says Christmas has anything to do with the birth of our saviour Christ! That’s why not! Why not celebrate what Christ actually celebrated?
There is nothing wrong with celebrating the actual days and feast like Jesus, but there is also nothing wrong with celebrating Christmas, which points to the birth of Jesus, and notice I said Jesus and not Santa. Some will try to point to Jeremiah 10 as to why we shouldn’t celebrate Christmas as believers, but this is false. Jeremiah 10 is talking about how many nations where taking tress and decorating them as gods, based on many things including what they saw in the Heavens, instead of just worshipping the true and living God who made the Heavens. Christmas is just a day to recognize Jesus Christ, which can be done on any day, not just that day, and it was picked to be December 25th to offset the celebration of the Winter Solstice. If you want to also give your kids gifts on this day that’s fine too because even God gives His children gifts, Matthew 7:11 “If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him!”…..It’s all about Wisdom and Balance. Again, Jeremiah 10 has nothing to do with Christmas, but its talking about how men from many nations were making Idols of false gods from trees that were collected…..Psalm 115:1-9 - “Not to us, O Lord, not to us, But to Your name give glory Because of Your lovingkindness, because of Your truth. Why should the nations say, “Where, now, is their God?” But our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases. Their idols are silver and gold, The work of man’s hands. They have mouths, but they cannot speak; They have eyes, but they cannot see; They have ears, but they cannot hear; They have noses, but they cannot smell; They have hands, but they cannot feel; They have feet, but they cannot walk; They cannot make a sound with their throat. Those who make them will become like them, Everyone who trusts in them. O Israel, trust in the Lord; He is their help and their shield”. #WeCanCelebrateChristmas #ChristmasIsAboutJesus #RecognizeJesus #TrustJesus #HaveWisdom #HaveBalance #BeBlessed
ORIGINS OF CHRISTMAS There is no date in the Bible for Jesus’ birth, but references to the lambing season have led some people to think he was born in spring. So why do we celebrate his birth on 25 December? December was party season for the Romans, like us, although Saturnalia finished on 23 December with the Sigillaria. This was a day of present giving, so it is compared to Christmas Day - but it’s the wrong date! Well, 25 December was also celebrated by the Romans, but as the birth of the sun god, Sol Invictus. After the Roman Empire converted to Christianity, 25 December was changed into a Christian holy day, and parts of the winter festivals were brought together into a new celebration: Christmas. The first recorded Christmas Day took place in AD 336, although this was celebrated on 6 January instead. It was moved to 25 December at around AD 354-60.
I think 1:47 really says it all, because a good set of our people feel that they can't celebrate their Blackness in the church cause a lot comes from a Eurocentric point of view.
Right. The higher ups/devil were like “hmmm… this is helping the black community express themselves, bringing unity, and spreading love let’s corrupt it. SMH
This is how you know that there is no one supreme being or god that is in control of everything and everybody. There are many doctrines that predate Christianity, Islam, and Judaism but if the one god of these doctrines which are supposedly to guide mankind created the world we live in then these religions would have come along with creation and therefore predate any cultural or belief system. Yet you have all these doctrines, religious concepts, and in the case of Africa a culture of matriarchy based on natural nature that where here long before even the making of Adam and eve.
Spirituality is not witchcraft, there are different spirits out there and its up to you which u identify with. The Holy spirit is one but budhists have spirits, even atheidt have a spirit behind them. Practice of witchcraft is something different to being Spiritual. We should not confuse things. If they follow ancestral worship thats for them in the same way any other religion prays to yheir gods. But practicing witchcraft is done all over the world, by al differnt races. As a Christian know what the bible says and know who you believe in and let the HOLY SPIRIT lead u. There are also some false prophets/preachers who operate on different spirits.
Just take a look at the current world map. Egypt, Libya(phut), Ethiopia etc were mentioned in the Bible. So ppl in Europe heard about things happening in Africa and brought the news to Africa??? Please make it make sense. My people truly are destroyed due to lack of knowledge. Thank God for shows like this waking people up.
Absolutely the first Christians missionary coming from Europe to Africa , even stated in their letter ,that the African already knew about Jesus life..
The level of brainwashing that some of you to deny that Christianity was spread through colonialism is concerning. You don’t want to look up a face the facts that brutal past to spreading this religion of love
Do yall know “that Fuller’s community standards say faculty must “abstain from … unbiblical sexual practices,” including all “explicit sexual conduct” outside of marriage and that marriage is a “covenant union between one man and one woman.”
We have to stop this madness. Christianity did not originate in Africa. If it did, why don't we hear about it until after the death of Jesus by Paul. Yes Africans were introduced to it but we're not the founders of it. Paul was a Israelite from Benjamin. He wasn't an African.
CELEBRATING SATURNALIA Saturnalia was one of many Roman festivals that took place throughout the year. It started as a one-day event to honour Saturn, the Roman god of farming and the harvest. It included a sacrifice of young pigs at a temple dedicated to Saturn, which were then eaten at a public feast the next day. Originally it was held on 17 December, but over the centuries it was extended from 17-23 December. This was a public holiday, and there was a joyous, carnival-like atmosphere in the streets. People gave each other gifts and ate and drank lots. Usually, Romans followed very strict societal rules, and everyone knew their place. But, during Saturnalia, these rules were set aside, and even slaves, who had hard lives with little time off could relax and have fun. Masters invited their slaves to eat with them, and even served their slaves themselves - unthinkable at other times of the year! The information isn’t hard to find!
he failed to say that hoodoo is Bible based the Bible, is used ALSO by Christians who practice hoodoo and who do not practice it to do witchcraft and curse others. Not just people in African traditional religions. If the yes and no goes for ATR, the yes and no goes for Christianity.
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I was apart of Lukumi and received a few initiations. The people told me that I could practice what they taught and still go to church but something didn’t sit right with me. My life was falling apart. I had lost everything, even my mind. But I found my way back to Christ and dismantled all those altars and threw out everything and literally my life has been restored and I have so much peace and joy these days.
I am so glad that God did not harden my heart.
Thank you Jesus.
You were the problem not Lucumi. Learn to take accountability & stop assigning blame to everything except yourself.
@rasone9172 now you’re being a problem. Go give your altar some fresh food and water and leave me be.
@ how the demon in you mad at my decision I made for my life.
@ I’m not mad at all, I’m just holding your accountable for your Nonsense. Instead of taking responsibilities for your failures, you blame Lucumi. Now you didn’t refute what I said, you just claimed Im “demon” possessed.
@@rasone9172 like I said, that tradition is full of demonic rituals. Don’t you got a ceremony you need to be at or preparing for? Because once I left that stuff alone and dismantled them altars my life has been amazing. Moved to California and it’s beautiful here.
Go be great. Go feed your ori some shea butter.
That’s why it’s good to take the first step … Look how God is just transforming Ryan & Tyshan for for His glory ❤
I LOVE Dr. Bantu’s passion not only for the historical context but when he starts going in talking about Jesus, bruhhhhhhhhhh his passion goes beyond 💯!!! That’s true “on FIIIIRE” for the Kingdom of God! I’m so glad I was led to watch this episode..Myyyyyyyy God! To you two King’s 🥰 God bless you for your diversity on this show!! This one was EXTREMELY amazing🙏🏾🙏🏾! I’m looking forward to following you in 2025!!
I agree!
I am loving that these conversations are happening! There is so much nuance to many of these areas, but having these discussions helps us arrive at the truth. The Holy Spirit truly LEADS us into all truth. Much love HI ❤
THIS episode has really been an eye opener for me!!! This makes more sense than any other episode I’ve seen about Christianity. Thank you brothers and keep letting the Father use you to teach us!!!!
Simple answer is yes. Speaking from experience and comparing ancestral veneration to Christianity. It's one thing to honour people's legagcy but to lift them to something they are NOT is blindness. Ancestor cannot control our world. Demons posing as them (familiar spirits) can. The consequences of following them is never pleasant.
I really love what he said about discerning what is good in our cultures. I first came across this concept with inculturation in the Catholic Church. When done properly, it's the best thing!
This is not information overload. We don't have enough of these conversations.
BTW God specifically banned child sacrifice in Leviticus 18:21. It was done in worship to Molech. So yes, that was as good as witchcraft because it was an act of Rebellion towards God [1 Samuel 15:23]. Whether or not people were conscious of it, it was a sin in God's eyes and that should be the focus.
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Please could you compile a booklist when guests like these come up? You could ask them to share it with you beforehand. Thank you.
Lol. I suspected Angela was Bamileke when I first heard her.
That's only your experience, there is a whole difference, and plus have You really ever had contact or any connection with the African gods? If you have not contacted them nor had any type of sign from them then you can't talk about them, and also witch has a whole different means from this mainstream misunderstanding
1 Samuel 15:23 "For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft..." Anything against the influence of Elohim is influenced by something else... witchcraft is that easy to fall into
@@ooniel594 yup
Dr. Vince B. is a brilliant and anointed soul! The Lord bless you, man of God!
This is the most important show for all nonbelievers, for those who denounce the word because of false narratives….Amen!
I will never understand the act of worshiping ancestors. I love my grandmother who passed away but couldn't imagine my great great grandkids worshiping her in the future.
That’s looking at african spiritually from a european lens. Ancient Africans didn’t worship ancestors they only gave honor to them.
Exactly!
It’s difficult to reconcile a false premise. We Afrikans don’t “worship;” are Ancestors we venerate them…
It’s not ancestor worship. You venerate, acknowledge, and affirm your ancestors. It’s the law of physics that states that once something is alive its energy can never die but it transforms into something else. Traditional African science and systems know this but it takes someone like Einstein to say it before black people accept it. Guess that saying about their ice being colder…….never mind
lol Africans don’t “worship” their ancestors
This is soooooo WONDERFUL! I'm being educated in this episode on deeper level which is sooooo NEEDED! THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS EPISODE.
Dr. Bantu spoke at my church in BR, LA almost about 2 years ago, and he was so full of knowledge, so educational and inspirational. Awesome to see him here! 🔥
Thank you guys for having an actual scholar discuss the history of our Bible. I had to tune out for a few weeks because I felt the previous discussions were losing value due to being centered around opinions, debates, and politics. This discussion was informative, productive, and gave glory to God! 🙌🏽
In one year y’all have had all my favorite well respected guests. Y’all even had people that I never thought I would see come on the platform. Definitely the best Podcast shows right now.
I just love love love this podcast and how you men are bringing multiple perspectives and topics to the for front. I’ve never been on a dating site on social media but with y’all channel I’m thinking about trying it. Also thank you Dr. Vince Bantu for all your knowledge and for Solomon 1:5-7 because I too did not know about this scripture n now I’m going to study 🙏🏽👏🏽🙌🏽
The knowledge is great. But being able to articulate it so well is just amazing
I love this conversation. Love understanding more about my beliefs. Keep it coming.
Dr. Bantu is a treasure amongst black theologians. Very well read and gives sources to support his information! Thank you my brothers for having the good doctor! Blessings and peace to your show!
Song of Songs 1:5-7🤯
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Whew!
The late Pastor Stephen Darby & the Truth Unedited channel have helped me kinda understand my race in relation to biblical scripture but this was by far the simplest 💣 drop
about it and it JUST clicked. Hallelujah, Glory to God!
My best episode yet! Dr. Bantu has eloquently and persuasively shared a wealth information pertaining to the topic.
Brothers, read the word, cover to cover. It's how we get to know the Most High. He pours His heart out in His word, especially the Old Testament.
Who wrote “the word”?
@@Lovehighfashion2 Slaughtering babies, Raping women, putting the spirit of lies on ppl. I can’t agree on whose WORDS those are.
@@js9849 You are here again with your “who wrote the word “. Even if God himself had written the word you still would be finding a problem with the word, you still will be questioning it saying how do you know it’s actually God who wrote it.
I will ask you again, if whatever you say is your culture and was written down and not passed from generation to generation by word of mouth wouldn’t that be in a book?, and it would be in a book written by human beings and not spirits.
Say Jesus 🙏🏾
@@TribeofLevi0404 what bible do you read
I'm glad i checked the comments because I thought this episode was going to promote African spiritualism. This was really good and affirming. More of us need to know this.
Dr. Vince Bantu is a very well respected theologians. I have been following his career since he was a graduate student traveling the world learning about the roots of African religions
Ooooo, I love theology so much. I’m going to follow him. Thank you for that!
@keelhe893 This guy wasn't properly Vetted:
Vince Bantu Fired After Fuller Seminary Investigation
Oct 24, 2024
Pastors Accuse Rising Christian Scholar Vince Bantu of Polygamy
Oct 1, 2024
Covenant Seminary Provides Statement Regarding Former Professor and student
Sep 24, 2024
Some how he got twisted up in his walk and are misleading the people. Stick with the Scriptures and stop being so gullible.
There's a lot of PhD's in hell among others. Jesus said, I am the way and the truth and the life.
@@sashasdream Shakka Ahmose is a great researcher check him out too.
Amen! This video is vital! This is such an amazing topic! I have learned soo much!! Thank you for having the special guest on this show! His information is golden! God Bless You All!!🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
So glad he addressed what Jesus said to Peter don’t call anything I created common or unclean. I was screaming for someone to quote that during the debate with the Israelite and pastors the other day thank God.
This verse?
Acts 10:15 (KJV):
"And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common."
Thats the bringing back into the fold the gentiles. Those of the northern kingdom tribes that strayed far into idolatry and broke away from God’s way of living. There’s a reason why even in revelation the kingdom of heaven will have12 gates for the 12 tribes. Don’t ignore this.
@ thank you, Loni I acknowledge the chosen ones! And I humbly submit however Jesus provided a way that even the dogs could receive crumbs from the masters table thanks be to God! Matthews 15:21-28 through 28
That's about people not food go read again everything after that part
Any religion or Spiritual belief system who rejects Jesus Christ as God, Lord and Savior who became Man, died for our sins, who was resurrected and is now sitting at the right hand of the Father and is coming back to judge all who hates and rejects Him that religion or belief is of Satan the devil ❤
Mark 7:6-9 - He answered and said to them, Well did Esaias prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honor me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things you do.
And he said to them, Full well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your own tradition (Romans 3:4).
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amen!
That is from a religious Outlook and not a spiritual one, you are speaking because you don't know anything outside your own custom nor are you willing to understand anything outside your custom
You do not have the authority or power to condemn other cultures or religions. You can exalt Christ and not condemn other people. Judaism says the worst things about our lord and savior but no one says this about Jews
I am all about learning more, hearing the truth and having open but very honest conversations like this. Nice job HI Team!
Shoutouts to y'all for having Dr. Vince up there. I've learned soooooo much from him since I first discovered him via The Jude 3 Project. 👏🏾 #iSalute
Side note: There were waaaayyy too many commercials in throughout this video. TH-cam is doing too much. 🤦🏾♂️
Loooooved this!! We need the knowledge. I pray we stop rejecting knowledge when it comes. Definitely looking forward to the debate. Bantu is going to crush it lol.
Keep em coming. Love from the Caribbean ❤
I am enjoying listening to Dr. Vince Bantu
Very powerful podcast Dr. Bantu is laying down truth and facts!
Great Convo…Much Growth!
I love all the conversations held on this platform, it welcomes knowledge and perspectives
Hallelujah!!! Praise the Most high for you brothers, you HAVE to remain strong in this walk! Stay up!
35:10 This is exactly the point I have been getting to in my own personal studies. Incredible!
This episode is the best ever. I’ve been to seminary and I’m Holy Spirit filled Christian Believer. I can relate to everything Dr. Bantu is lifting up for consideration. We all have free volition - out of this conversation we can choose. We are in time where all this is relevant but once you pass from this realm into eternity free volition will have ended. So when listening to this awesome dialogue don’t take it for granted. Consider this conversation and choose wisely.
Amazing dialogue Dr. Bantu is on point!
Love that y’all brought an excellent scholar to break this down biblically. Excellent work guys! ❤️
This was a really dope conversation! I’m impressed by your guests knowledge base. Peace and blessings to y’all. 🙏🏽
We understand Yeshua, Bible and the theology brother, we are talking about the church as a system and institution. What is the church doing to stop colonialism and neocolonialism still going on in Africa, when is the church going to stand up to ensure it ends in its entirety?
Ryan, your questions are off the charts👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽❤
Profound. So much depth!! Thank You🙏🏼
This is why being born again we are a part of Kingdom culture.
Great discussion! Christ has birthed us into a new relationship as His bride, a family as adopted children and kingdom as His servants and royal priests. The world system including our human cultures are to be lightly esteemed at best or forgotten in comparison to what we have gained in Christ. I can support Brother Vance’s position if we caveat that position by acknowledging the following: our culture, my blackness and what survives post Christ is The Lords decision to make not ours. Paul counted what he had gained as dung that he might win Christ. Anything that is or appears to be sin within our culture has to be flushed. We cannot be distracted by any worldly affinities. Foods, clothing, attitudes and philosophies are all on the block for Christ. He takes our diversity and unites us in His kingdom.
““You shall not make for yourself any idol, or any likeness (form, manifestation) of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth [as an object to worship].”
Exodus 20:4 AMP
Anything that is worshipped outside of God disguised as ‘tradition’ or ‘African spirituality’ is demonic.
Again, linguistics is where we find ourselves separated. We see things and interpret based on what we have been taught. Our cognitive dissonance has been set by religious programming. Until we really take time to study cultures we will never fully understand.
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I love this, history and religion are so linked one can’t learn one without the other…🙇🏽♀️
Great conversation guys and so needed 👏
I totally agree with you. I love the Bible as an African liberator. All my liberation strategies come from the original Bible/scriptures!
I'm trying to listen to Hymns and sing those and the Psalms to praise God and encourage myself and others.
Come out from among them and be ye separate.
Be ye holy for I am holy, saith the Lord.
Be ye transformed by the renewing of your minds.
He that worships God must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Holy holy holy is the lamb who was and is and is to come.
I couldn't continue watching the full video. I do appreciate some historical information that the brother shared. But, he offers 'a bridge too far' for me personally to cross, with regard to his expressing the mythology of Christianity and the Bible as Truth and factually and archeologically accurate. Simple question?
How do you explain 'Adam & Eve's' birth as the beginning of humans per the Bible when archeology blatantly and factually disagree?
There are many contradictions like this that just don't add up. Everyone speaks of religion as though life began relative to their messiah's rendition or story. Few speak about humans prior to that, 1000s of years prior, when spirituality was written on hearts at birth, instead of in various altered books. ~ Kevy Michaels
Y’all ‘bout to be my favorites brothers. 🙏🏾
Convo was well informative and much appreciated.
I understand actually what he said, he is on point!!!
Looks like this gonna be another big show👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👊🏿
This brother has both correct and incorrect concepts. The story about Peter in the trace about food was about man, specifically Cornelius, not food. The other example about food sacrificed to idols is also taken out of context. It is written that the Most High is the same yesterday, today and forever. Please read the chapter before and after for context.
Thank you, a lot of people take that Cornelius scripture out of context.
Totally agree with you!
Preeeeaaaaachhh
I love some these topics lately!!! It is needed…..
The Late Pastor Stephen Darby of Destined Ministries taught on this over 10 years ago. That man was ahead of his time.
This is 🔥🔥🔥.
Best episode yet!
This generation is waking up not knowing who their fathers is. there is a need for Historical teachings like this one!
Israel is IN Africa. Older maps, which of course now you can't find anymore show that before the term "Middle East" was coined, and then when pressed they now say it's part of Asia (mhm🙄), it used to be common knowledge that Israel is a part of the continent of Africa. Even in the 70's the many African pendants, medallions, etc depicted Africa as it was on the maps that were at the time still in circulation: with Israel. Maps of Africa today look weird to me with that big chunk taken out, making it look like a dent in the continent.
I'm not even going to get into ethnicities, but just know...🧠
It's because in America the white man was taught that Jesus was a more European looking Man but Jesus was a brown skinned Jewish Man so this is a wake up call for them we must pray for our brothers and sisters 🙏🏽
This man sat here and told us that North Africa and Egypt and Ethiopia were the dominant kingdoms in the whole of Africa … “before history began to develop in western part of the continent” this people is a man deeply roooted in Eurocentric thought. It’s one that places West Africa and the kingdoms that Europeans had less proximity to as not having history. The only reason he believes this is that it backs up his point that Christianity is basically dominant in Africa cos that is where all of African history is. Mind you Nok culture was present in Nigeria in 1500BCE, Djenne-Jeno was around 1000BCE and Ghana Empire is establish around the same time as the bible is being formalised.
English days of the week and months of the year are named after pagan deities or some form of pagan origin.
For example, every time we say Thursday we are saying Thors day, but we don't really mean we are calling on Thor or worshiping Thor.
I believe God gives us grace. We didn't invent our English language which borrows from so many other languages (Latin, Greek, French, German, etc.).
Some people don't like to say "God" because if spelled backwards it's "Dog".
And your point?
Oh my God...I have never read that scripture song of Solomon 1:5😢
Amazing. It's been a moment since I heard aything from Dr. Bantu
Dayton, Ohio!! AYEEE shoutout to my city!
POWERFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is great! Christ is coming 🙏🏾
That is so good! There are good parts of our culture and bad parts of culture. I have to say no to any part of culture that isn't like Christ.
I’m not eating meet sacrificed to other gods. Paul was addressing The concerns about buying meat from butchers who sold meat sacrificed to idols. It doesn’t mean we should wilfully eat sacrificed meat.
@@faithbishop1444 How do we now if the meat we buy from the store was sacrificed for an idol or not?
Let’s get dr kaba kamene back on to talk about this subject.
Yes it’s Witchcraft. Why are y’all still so confused
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Brainwashed by religions 😂
Amen very simple lol there shouldn’t even be no question about it
@@kazoko6628😂 you must be the one brainwashed hum because we are clear on what we believe and know. But go off. You do pressed about us tho
@much2lovely 🐑 believe what you want ..but you have been brainwashed by the Roman Catholic church and by a book edited for manipulation ...
Awesome 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Toussaint Louverturea, general in the Haitian revolution, was a bible believer. So yes we can still celebrate their victory
I’m so glad they hit on that scripture in Songs of songs I’m black and beautiful. That was the shulimite woman
Can we use the same questions regarding the European culture as well?
Love this conversation
I don’t understand how Christians celebrate holidays that have no root in the bible, however I don’t hear of them celebrating what the bible and Christ celebrated! 🧐
Even through we know Jesus wasn't born in December. They celebrate it to honor Jesus. That's why I'm glad. We don't know his birthday because people will worship that day.
@ if you know that’s not his birthdate why celebrate it?
Also can you give me any further responses to the question I initially posed.
I am genuinely curious about this!
@ thank you for your response, although no one is answering my initial question.
I see Purim in the book of Esther, yes it was decreed by a man on the back of the most high grace and saving a set of people from death.
Show me the scripture that says Christmas has anything to do with the birth of our saviour Christ!
That’s why not!
Why not celebrate what Christ actually celebrated?
There is nothing wrong with celebrating the actual days and feast like Jesus, but there is also nothing wrong with celebrating Christmas, which points to the birth of Jesus, and notice I said Jesus and not Santa. Some will try to point to Jeremiah 10 as to why we shouldn’t celebrate Christmas as believers, but this is false. Jeremiah 10 is talking about how many nations where taking tress and decorating them as gods, based on many things including what they saw in the Heavens, instead of just worshipping the true and living God who made the Heavens. Christmas is just a day to recognize Jesus Christ, which can be done on any day, not just that day, and it was picked to be December 25th to offset the celebration of the Winter Solstice. If you want to also give your kids gifts on this day that’s fine too because even God gives His children gifts, Matthew 7:11 “If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him!”…..It’s all about Wisdom and Balance. Again, Jeremiah 10 has nothing to do with Christmas, but its talking about how men from many nations were making Idols of false gods from trees that were collected…..Psalm 115:1-9 - “Not to us, O Lord, not to us, But to Your name give glory Because of Your lovingkindness, because of Your truth. Why should the nations say, “Where, now, is their God?” But our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases. Their idols are silver and gold, The work of man’s hands. They have mouths, but they cannot speak; They have eyes, but they cannot see; They have ears, but they cannot hear; They have noses, but they cannot smell; They have hands, but they cannot feel; They have feet, but they cannot walk; They cannot make a sound with their throat. Those who make them will become like them, Everyone who trusts in them. O Israel, trust in the Lord; He is their help and their shield”. #WeCanCelebrateChristmas #ChristmasIsAboutJesus #RecognizeJesus #TrustJesus #HaveWisdom #HaveBalance #BeBlessed
ORIGINS OF CHRISTMAS
There is no date in the Bible for Jesus’ birth, but references to the lambing season have led some people to think he was born in spring. So why do we celebrate his birth on 25 December?
December was party season for the Romans, like us, although Saturnalia finished on 23 December with the Sigillaria. This was a day of present giving, so it is compared to Christmas Day - but it’s the wrong date! Well, 25 December was also celebrated by the Romans, but as the birth of the sun god, Sol Invictus. After the Roman Empire converted to Christianity, 25 December was changed into a Christian holy day, and parts of the winter festivals were brought together into a new celebration: Christmas. The first recorded Christmas Day took place in AD 336, although this was celebrated on 6 January instead. It was moved to 25 December at around AD 354-60.
I think 1:47 really says it all, because a good set of our people feel that they can't celebrate their Blackness in the church cause a lot comes from a Eurocentric point of view.
This was really nice. Now we need Wesley Huff on the podcast!
These guys are fire 🔥🔥
Esau's color which was red is mentioned in the Bible, Genesis 25:25
Is this the white Wes Huff!!! lol. I love this , thank you for speaking truth and standing on conviction!
I can’t WAIT for Apostle Pagani to be invited. 🥹
Hip hop was clean when introduced. It was corrupted because it was effective.
Right. The higher ups/devil were like “hmmm… this is helping the black community express themselves, bringing unity, and spreading love let’s corrupt it. SMH
Nah secular music is secular music
That’s a fact
The only way to the Father, the creator, is only through Jesus Christ.There is no other way to get to him.
I spit my water out when I heard: the reading rainbow 🌈….😂😂😂😂😂😂
If you have portraits of Malcolm X, Dr King Tupac etc you are venerating your Ancestors lol
This is how you know that there is no one supreme being or god that is in control of everything and everybody. There are many doctrines that predate Christianity, Islam, and Judaism but if the one god of these doctrines which are supposedly to guide mankind created the world we live in then these religions would have come along with creation and therefore predate any cultural or belief system. Yet you have all these doctrines, religious concepts, and in the case of Africa a culture of matriarchy based on natural nature that where here long before even the making of Adam and eve.
Spirituality is not witchcraft, there are different spirits out there and its up to you which u identify with. The Holy spirit is one but budhists have spirits, even atheidt have a spirit behind them. Practice of witchcraft is something different to being Spiritual. We should not confuse things. If they follow ancestral worship thats for them in the same way any other religion prays to yheir gods. But practicing witchcraft is done all over the world, by al differnt races. As a Christian know what the bible says and know who you believe in and let the HOLY SPIRIT lead u. There are also some false prophets/preachers who operate on different spirits.
Just take a look at the current world map. Egypt, Libya(phut), Ethiopia etc were mentioned in the Bible. So ppl in Europe heard about things happening in Africa and brought the news to Africa??? Please make it make sense. My people truly are destroyed due to lack of knowledge. Thank God for shows like this waking people up.
Absolutely the first Christians missionary coming from Europe to Africa , even stated in their letter ,that the African already knew about Jesus life..
The level of brainwashing that some of you to deny that Christianity was spread through colonialism is concerning. You don’t want to look up a face the facts that brutal past to spreading this religion of love
CROSS MOVEMENT!!! YES!!
Yall need to get Wesley Huff on here for this topic!
Do yall know “that Fuller’s community standards say faculty must “abstain from … unbiblical sexual practices,” including all “explicit sexual conduct” outside of marriage and that marriage is a “covenant union between one man and one woman.”
He teaching Doc!!! Wow!!!
We have to stop this madness. Christianity did not originate in Africa. If it did, why don't we hear about it until after the death of Jesus by Paul. Yes Africans were introduced to it but we're not the founders of it. Paul was a Israelite from Benjamin. He wasn't an African.
CELEBRATING SATURNALIA
Saturnalia was one of many Roman festivals that took place throughout the year. It started as a one-day event to honour Saturn, the Roman god of farming and the harvest. It included a sacrifice of young pigs at a temple dedicated to Saturn, which were then eaten at a public feast the next day. Originally it was held on 17 December, but over the centuries it was extended from 17-23 December.
This was a public holiday, and there was a joyous, carnival-like atmosphere in the streets. People gave each other gifts and ate and drank lots. Usually, Romans followed very strict societal rules, and everyone knew their place. But, during Saturnalia, these rules were set aside, and even slaves, who had hard lives with little time off could relax and have fun. Masters invited their slaves to eat with them, and even served their slaves themselves - unthinkable at other times of the year!
The information isn’t hard to find!
he failed to say that hoodoo is Bible based the Bible, is used ALSO by Christians who practice hoodoo and who do not practice it to do witchcraft and curse others. Not just people in African traditional religions. If the yes and no goes for ATR, the yes and no goes for Christianity.
Great informative information