1) This video is not called "Every line that broly says in the broly movie" 2) a video being under 2 minutes to show someone's personality is not an insult 3) a personality you find dull and boring is still a personality
I always find it funny how everyone says he only screams Kakarot but in the movie he literally stops calling him that after saying that they're "all a waste of saiyan blood" and starts calling him Goku, he rejects Goku's saiyan name and refuses to use it after realizing that Goku is not the powerful saiyan warrior he thought he was.
Tbh Second coming can be argued that he lost his remaining sanity after being beaten by goku when he was winning and being in a comatose state for 7 years As for bio? I got nothing, hated tht movie
I think the blame falls mostly on the videogames where in most of them his dialogue really is mostly different variations of yelling "kakarot" lol, and the rest on the fans saying that not having actually watched or remembering movie 8 and basing their opinion on said videogames. It came out in the 90s and we've had 20 years of the games coloring fans perceptions along with the fact Dragonball fans are notorious for not watching the actual show before having an opinion.
@@Draco-__-deo Wrong. Just calling out all yall simpin for the literal Epstine of voice acting cuz yall got gaslit by the alt-right lool. Nothing but facts. 😸😸
It’s funny how people give Broly shit for being an evil villain with no motive apparently but then also go and praise Janemba as if he was somehow better
funny you should mention that because the jenemba movie WAS going to be another broly movie early on but due to the lower than average reception of bio-broly Janemba was made quickly in later drafts. But you can tell in various game adaptations intros you see broly fighting gogeta multiple times because that was given to people making games during the early script for what ended up as fusion reborn.
@@Sonicfalcon16 I'm pretty sure that's why the bio broly movie ends with goku talking about broly causing problems in hell but it led to nothing. So basically if bio-broly didn't exist, Janemba wouldn't have existed.
Buu and Janemba are both monsters of pure evil. They don't really need motives for what they do. Z Broly just had a shitty backstory. The entire reason he hated Goku was because he cried as a baby. Goku's crying was somehow so bad it reminded Broly of when he got stabbed as an infant. Completely ridiculous
Don't mess with Dragon Ball fans, we watch the movies maybe once or not at all then argue with the droplets of information we haven't refreshed on in years
Old Broly encapsulated how much of a psychopath a Saiyan could truly be. Not even Frieza is that scary. Broly could just destroy like Frieza, but Broly relished in the pain, torture, and helplessness of his victims before finishing them off.
So did Frieza though. He inflicted loads of psychological torture on Vegeta while on Namek, even made him feel hope that maybe he _was_ the Super Saiyan before crushing it and reducing him to tears in front of Goku before killing him. And what he did to Krillin. Man. First impaling him and rocking him the way he did while mocking him. And then sending him up in a controlled ascent before blowing him up from the inside out. Frieza could have just killed any of them, no one was strong enough to beat Frieza before Goku transformed into a Super Saiyan. But he made the entire thing a spectacle because he just could. The one thing that always bothered me about the Planet Vegeta rewrite in Super, is that Frieza didn't cackle and celebrate like he did in Z. Z Frieza was really on some shit during the Saiyan extermination, to the point where he even disturbed Zarbon and Dodoria, who were otherwise just as fucked up in the head as he was at times.
@@undeadinside3571In his defense on the second one, your brain would be 90% brain damage too if you had been exploded by your own energy, launched across the universe, crashed into another planet, gotten flash frozen in a lake, and then woken up as the lake thaws by a strange crying that sounds vaguely like this one memory you half remember of a guy you wanted to kill.
Maybe he has a better char dev because he was made canon to hype the power-hungry fans? Movie Broly never had the chance. Still, he at least got three movies. Two too many, but still. And the first one was enough to make him legendary.
Damn, Vic Mignogna's Broly sounded so different in the original movie. Just compare this to like Xenoverse 2 or FighterZ, it's like two completely different voices.
@@omenafroI think Johnny Bosch (Ichigo VA) only voiced DBS Broly in FighterZ. Z Broly is still voiced by Vic when he did his lines for that game, unless there’s a third voice actor that I’m not aware of. In Legends, Z Broly was also voiced by Johnny Bosch this time. However one of the newer Z Broly units had both VAs weirdly enough, and since they both sound different, something about it was off imo.
@@WarriorConsole it's because for the games, they can reuse some of Vics lines most likely since Z Broly doesn't have any specific dialogue for anyone other than trash talking Kakarot or Vegeta. So there's a small chance we can keep hearing Vic in games but only for Z Broly. Anything else, especially Super Broly, its Johnny now. Anime is guaranteed Johnny too.
Fun fact: In the Japanese Dub of the Z Broly movie Paragus explained that Broly actually sensed Goku's power when he first arrived on the trap planet/New Planet Vegeta (Specifically in the scene where they were sizing each other up and everything faded to black except for them and their auras.) and that caused his saiyan instincts to go out of control which made him see Goku as a powerful opponent he wanted to fight and kill, the crying had nothing to do with it. He says quote, "Could it be Kakarrot? Does this mean that Broly's instincts as a saiyan have been awakened by Kakarrots power, and he is starting to overcome my mind control?" Also in the JP dub he only knows Goku's saiyan name because Vegeta said it right in front of Broly. Broly also only starts remembering Goku right when he is defeated. Also for people who keep misreading my comment, Broly didn’t get his saiyan instincts unlocked until he sensed Goku as an adult, Baby Goku had nothing to do with it!
So he's psychotic because of his power, and the only thing KAKAROT has to do with it is being a worthy opponent whose power triggered Broly's to awaken, the crying being a null factor and being important because of a dubism? Got it.
@@inkchariot6147Maybe it's the Mandela effect, but for some reason, I also remembering people stereotype Dragon Ball fans as overly smart and nerdy. Maybe it was some other anime fandom, but I seriously remember there being a trend of people calling Drgaon Ball fans the smartest people on earth (Most likely due to the absolutely insane powerscaling debates).
@@ElijahW2003 _His motive does not work in the DB universe, and is frankly dum af. He whines about how mortals should be eliminated and how Gods are all that matters, yet literally 99% of gods in DB were mortals. Lol._ _Not to mention he hates mortals for being violent. Yet literally most gods fight, and the ultimate God likes watching fights._
@@VonKey. _Why on Earth are you talking like this?_ Also, it's _supposed_ to be hypocrititical, that's the point. I said it was an _interesting_ motive, not a _reasonable_ one. In a narrative, those are two different things.
I'm still wondering what amount of energy the Z fighters even had left to give at that point, they were all pretty much out for the count at that point. One of the dumbest DBZ movie endings, right up there with Coolers Revenge - I hate how Cooler loses straight away when Goku goes Super Saiyan.
yeah that's what writing means, bad one at that, they could've killed him in so many creative ways, teamwork combos, some 5v1 beam-clash, obliterating him with the meteor that was coming, special beam cannon through the head or chest while they all try to hold all his limbs would've gone so hard.
People forget he was being surpressed for the first half of the movie, and once awakens LSS he kinda snaps outa it and his Evil Saiyan traits come out!
@@GeckoMoriiaall saiyans were inherently evil (ofc super changed that) the guy was there to beat ass then get his ass beat like every other movie villain.
@@user-p4y4zwhy are radizt and Vegeta interesting then? Being evil has to come with how and why. The why isn't compelling so therefore the audience does not care.
Such an amazing contrast between the original and reboot. One Broly is a gentle giant who doesn’t actually like fighting. Plunged into the position of Legendary Super Saiyan and lethal weapon through trauma and abuse. The other is a psychopathic brute who sadistically loves torturing his prey. Taking absolute delight in their suffering and mocking them at every opportunity.
@@DBGamer1027very wrong. People just say stuff because it makes them sound smart or deep but it actually has the opposite effect Define "character" ... You cant. Because there is absolutely no metric where DBS Broly qualifies as a good character
DBS Broly has a deeper backstory and personality than "he lives to destroy and really hates Kakarot because he cried", Super Broly hates fighting but was forced to by his father, who he still cared about despite the endless abuse he was put through for his whole life.
@@DBGamer1027 People just say this to make themselves sound smart. DBS Broly 's backstory is overrated as hell. It makes no sense because whats said and whats shown are 2 different things. Also Backstory DOES NOT = character so people need to actually learn what words mean. "Character" is their presence ON SCREEN and DBS Broly is not an interesting character. He NEVER dominates the screen when he is on it
Old Broly encapsulated how much of a psychopath a Saiyan could truly be. Not even Frieza is that scary. Broly could just destroy like Frieza, but Broly relished in the pain, torture, and helplessness of his victims before finishing them off.
honeslty? you could make a fan edit and add more voice lines to Broly in 2 and it'd be so much better. His face is extremely expressive, and despite saying very little.. you can tell what he's thinking for a lot of it.
If anything, Broly is a PTSD case in the dragonball world. He caught a whiff of Gokus energy and had that reminder of surviving an execution as well as a planetary cataclysm. Homie just needed a hug at some point 😂😅
Z Broly is pure evil! Especially with his savage quirky remarks(he isn't some big dumb idiot) Ironic considering it's actually DBS Broly who just screams & shouts mindlessly
It is actually honestly interesting that he just became himself after that thing suppressing him his father had broke. He could barely even talk, was like on meds with that thing, not even really there, his child-rage on Kakarot made him break it and become who he really was. Understandable that he hated Paragos, imagine your father is scared of you and puts you on medication that puts you down so much you can barely talk.
Trunks’ eyes did that for a few seconds when entering SSJ Grade 3, and when entering SSJ Rage. Maybe it’s tied to very heavy, powerful forms fueled by rage?
A superhero good guy character who had trust issues but learns to trust his friends seeing how valuable trust and friendship really is. Who constantly talks and shows calm and composure untill he is at his absolute bewaking point? How is that like what people claim en broly was? An op hulk rip off who barely speaks,with annoyin fans. Hmmm that does sound familar... oh wait thats exactly what new broly is! Barely speaks, breaks powerscaling in a stupid way with how quickly he grows to God levels, becomes a mindless monster when in ssj form. And even wears purple pants like the hulk. New broly is actually the one who perfectly represents what people hated old broly for. But hey make him a good guy and give people pretty animated fights and suddenly nobody bats an eye
@@kingpinofcrime Fair points about new Broly, but I sure dont remember Jiren "constantly talking". Dude was just silently staring at people until Goku used Ultra Instinct. A lot of complaints I hear about Broly is "his only personality trait is strong". Still, I guess im treating Jiren like people treat Broly lol.
So wrong, I remember clearly still have old post as well did no one like jiren backstory or the way he was written the community been shiting on jiren since forever
@@GeckoMoriia Yeah thats the point. People didnt like his backstory, they liked him when he was "silent and strong". AKA no personality, just big. What people hate about "Broly"
I like em both. Don't care what anybody says. I can have my own opinions and likes. Nobody wants to be in a echo chamber where no one else can have a different opinion.
@@raihokyol1566 It's almost as-if Broly grew up on a remote planet with one other person, practically in total isolation. He can hardly form sentences as it is. Why would he waste time talking to someone who his father and Frieza sent him out to fight?
@@galaxyrunaway because why fighting if he is "good"? That's why dbs broly has No personality. He is a tool for almost everyone unable to think by himself.
People remember him having no personality because a majority of his other appearances follow the Second Coming approach where he's more brainless. The one game I remember really going back to this approach to his characterization is Xenoverse 2 having him as a master with tons of dialogue. Budokai is especially guilty of only featuring Broly with his second coming esque dialogue.
Good point, but it also makes sense to come down to it being that yes the Broly from the second film sucks, but still doesn't directly ruin the one from the first
I'm sorry bro but this is barely a personality. With DBS Broly he's supposed to come off as a Silent raging monster, (Similar to hulk) DBZ Broly personality is so fucking basic. Its the typical Edgy, Sadistic, and Ruthless personality that's been done to death by so many characters, it's on the level of a dragon OC. Like yeah, he has a personality but it's so boring that it's basically a template. Their are C-list heros in marvel and DC who got more depth than Broly
@@HotFootBunny ehh no it's not boring it's quite fun he's just as evil as Freeza and Cell and he enjoys it Super Broly has the Tarzan trope which is boring and very reserved I prefer how bombastic Z broly is and while dbs Broly may have the better story dbz broly has the better character and stage presence
You can write a dissertation on the irreperable damage that Second Coming did to Broly as a character, I swear. He was never a mindless rampaging beast. He was a sadistic, brutal, psychopathic, nigh-unstoppable monster. And that got lost for something so much worse.
Lemme level with you as a sci fi writer, Broly is actually well written because he is SIMPLE. Think of the classic rule, show don’t tell. What happens alot with shonen in general is the exposition of abilities, backstories, and general motives/goals. It is not necessarily a bad thing. Other genres also play with this formula too, so it is not unusual. But not Broly. Almost all of Broly’s exposition is done by his father, a ‘flawed narrator’. He loves his son, I think at least enough to see him as a symbol of sayain pride. granted, he is not naive on his son’s danger to himself and others. It is not frankly unusual he made a mind control crown since Broly is shown to be a psychopath. Like, actually. He shows no empathy and has no social understanding of the idea of friends or even family. He literally crushed his dad to death! Frankly, his mother which we never see probably has a nicer fate being blown up by Freeza. Broly is a sadist. He is a gifted fighter, but not out of experience like someone like Goku or Piccolo or someone with immense talent like Vegeta or Gohan. He just is gifted because he doesn’t have any moral or psychological scrupples. He will run you over with a fucking football tackle before he even ‘thought’ of what it can do. He is unimpeded. And that is why he is a great villain. But admittedly, his fanbase loves him a bit too much. Most DBZ misinfo I have seem usually comes either from here or the Janemba movie or with Buu or whatever. Definitely memorable and should be studied. Also, hot take, the second movie wasn’t that bad. Simply because Biobroly exists. And yeah. second coming is like, still maybee 3rd worst overall dragon ball movie, but it was pretty solid if you like Gohan. Which I do, so.
People need morally gray or tragic/relatable villains these days for them to be 'good' villains Z Broly was menace and a psychopath because he KNEW was more powerful than anyone else and not a damn person could stop him
Broly had so much character. Until the next two movies where they made him just a mindless wordless freak. But in the first one he actively taunts and laughs and his opponents.
People seem to forget that this complaint doesn't come from the original Broly movie, but from the next 2. Z fumbled the character harder than katchin.
It's crazy the amount of hyperbole people use to describe dbz. "All they do is yell", "Goku is a bad father", "Broly has zero personality", etc. Just inaccurate.
I feel like this is a very odd use of the word Modernity it's more like most people are losers now (for a variety of reasons) that hate everything to make themselves feel better.
@extremepop324 tbh, most Z films are ass. I'd need to rewatch some of them, but I do remember Tree of Might, Battle of Gods, and Fusion reborn being pretty enjoyable (Hell, BoG is still in discission for the best DB Film imo). But the rest are either easily forgettable (Lord Slug, Android 13, both Cooler movies, Resurrection of F) or are actually terrible, whether it be due to writing mistakes, boring characters or Both (In the case of Wrath of the Dragon, All 3 OG broly films, Boujack reborn).
Z-Broly was a saiyan at heart; resentful towards his father, but a saiyan nonetheless. Kinda opposite of Trunks, whose Super Saiyan 3rd Grade was the inspiration for him.
Z Broly is truly the bloodlust side of a typical Saiyan mind. Aggressive, Ruthless, No care for any life on a planet. It's no wonder King Vegeta was terrified of him even when he was just a baby. The potential bloodlust within a Saiyan....it's absolutely terrifying to experience.
@@WarmLusamine I don't think I need to elaborate on why the likes of Frieza and Cell make for much, much better antagonists for their respective stories than Broly right?
@@infamousplayer8772It's simple dialogue and even cliché, but it works and makes him a pretty good character overall: a sociopathic mental patient. It's perfectly in Dragon Ball standards, considering that Frieza is also simply a "generic" galactic emperor, and it still works quite well, despite not being excellent
The video is pointing out that in fact, he did not "only scream Kakarot" and has quite a bit of personality. It does not say "Broly is more in depth than you think!" or "Broly is a well written character" but apparently that's really hard for DB fans like yourself to understand.
@@DarkPaladinX77Video also doesn't refer to anyone actually saying "He has no personality and only yells Kakarot". From what I hear, most people just say his origin story is awful.
@@DarkPaladinX77 By saying that he has some personality he is BY EXTENSION saying that Broly is more complex than it really is, how hard is that for you to see? Also: being a psychopath is not a "personality". Does Broly having no true personality really hurts that much?
I can see both sides here. Broly was (even with the clarity of what his ACTUAL backstory and behavior is) pretty stupid. Even though Goku’s crying triggers memories of his time with King Veggie, that still wouldn’t have his name set him off, or even have him recognize him most likely. I mean they’re 40 years older than when they last met. EVEN then, goku doesn’t exactly cry to set off broly. Yeah, broly has *some* personality, yeah he’s not as bad as people say he is, but he’s still bad.
No, you clearly can’t see both sides here because you’re literally missing the fact that they’re rivals, BORN rivals, saiyans born on the same day are destined to be rivals, the whole smoke between him and Goku was a RIVALRY, albeit a pretty rough one (they’re saiyans so it explains) go and watch the movie again bruh, Goku and broly were battling in spirit as babies, and Goku was winning, hence the reason why when they met broly became all types of uncomfortable, there was a scene of this guy sweating his ass off as if he was AFRAID of what he had encountered hours earlier
@@Zpaphandlerrr ..again, thats.. kinda dumb? I’ve never really seen it or heard of that explanation, like.. ever??? I know what ya mean in terms of broly sweating bullets in that one scene but like.. rivals? huh? Born to be rivals from being born on the same day? what? I mean, if thats true, its an explanation i suppose. A really bad one, because I’m not even sure how thats supposed to work.. plus goku had actual amnesia, I’m not sure how that would work out. Its also just kinda out of the blue and confusing, they don’t really have a rivalry either, Goku gets his ass beat as much as everyone else, wins, and then literally never fights him ever again. Vegeta honestly fits the “destined rival” way better both thematically and power wise, and as someone else has said, broly even stopping considering goku as a powerful saiyan warrior mid movie (iirc.) Broly being a “destined rival” even if true, is just subpar writing. Again, better than what people say he is, but still subpar. tldr: where’d ya hear that
@@dreemurrprince in the words of paragus in the JP sub (the same point where he says they were born on the same day) “Goku’s ki is triggering broly’s sayain instinct” This could mean many things, but the most basic is goku stimulated broly’s sayain instincts to fight, forcing him to override the effects of the mind control
@@hbshadow8981 ..uh, ok. That still doesn’t explain.. literally anything i said. Him overcoming the mind control isnt an issue, saiyans did it and do it all the time.
@BreezO. Z Broly is one hell of a Rival, huh? Y'know... being born on the same day then quite literally not even knowing Kakarot is still alive, meanwhile his 'Rival' and Vegeta are currently engaged in probably one of the best rivalries I've personally seen in Anime.
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1) This video is not called "Every line that broly says in the broly movie"
2) a video being under 2 minutes to show someone's personality is not an insult
3) a personality you find dull and boring is still a personality
@@knightfallprotocol preach.
he is my favorite Broly
3) No, just No
@@benjamingeorge8241 he’s literally speaking facts about that.
@@benjamingeorge8241 argue with your mama
"goku, how much do you love your son"
that's diabolical.
kakarot*
Everytime i think of broly i think of him saying that or “is that another word for coffin” no joke he was evil asf😭
Folkin diabolical
That, is because he didnt have a father who showed him love
"how much do *you* love *your* son?"
People forget that Saiyans are naturally a brutal and ruthless species. Combine that with incredible unchecked power and you get Broly.
For real! That explains it!
At least they were… super made them into family guys lol
Yeah dude we forgrt that all the time
Retconned now.
@@syazwanmustapah2826 What is?
I always find it funny how everyone says he only screams Kakarot but in the movie he literally stops calling him that after saying that they're "all a waste of saiyan blood" and starts calling him Goku, he rejects Goku's saiyan name and refuses to use it after realizing that Goku is not the powerful saiyan warrior he thought he was.
I'm pretty sure he calls him Goku in a mocking way, hence the tone he uses.
@@dvda9725Yeah, and he's using the name "Goku" mockingly because he's rejecting Goku's status as a Saiyan. Your comment isn't disagreeing with theirs
@@dvda9725 Well yeah, its clearly meant to be an insult and to mock him.
...And then the second Broly movie happened
@@progamer2009 And he was the same character.
you can blame the return of broly and bio broly for that
Tbh
Second coming can be argued that he lost his remaining sanity after being beaten by goku when he was winning and being in a comatose state for 7 years
As for bio? I got nothing, hated tht movie
Pretty much, yeah.
Those Movies sucked
@@StevenJones851Only Bio Broly did.
I think the blame falls mostly on the videogames where in most of them his dialogue really is mostly different variations of yelling "kakarot" lol, and the rest on the fans saying that not having actually watched or remembering movie 8 and basing their opinion on said videogames. It came out in the 90s and we've had 20 years of the games coloring fans perceptions along with the fact Dragonball fans are notorious for not watching the actual show before having an opinion.
OG Broly was something else. Forget about Second Coming and Biobroly. This was the legend
legendary autism 🙄🙄
I agree
@@PrinceOFallFusions2000 OG broly is garbo and anyone who likes it is a goba. Learn to think for yourself kid 🙄🙄
@@dangerousdays2052bro trynna rage bait
@@Draco-__-deo Wrong. Just calling out all yall simpin for the literal Epstine of voice acting cuz yall got gaslit by the alt-right lool. Nothing but facts. 😸😸
It’s funny how people give Broly shit for being an evil villain with no motive apparently but then also go and praise Janemba as if he was somehow better
Or kid buu.
lol z broly is better than both of them
funny you should mention that because the jenemba movie WAS going to be another broly movie early on but due to the lower than average reception of bio-broly Janemba was made quickly in later drafts. But you can tell in various game adaptations intros you see broly fighting gogeta multiple times because that was given to people making games during the early script for what ended up as fusion reborn.
@@Sonicfalcon16 I'm pretty sure that's why the bio broly movie ends with goku talking about broly causing problems in hell but it led to nothing. So basically if bio-broly didn't exist, Janemba wouldn't have existed.
Buu and Janemba are both monsters of pure evil. They don't really need motives for what they do. Z Broly just had a shitty backstory. The entire reason he hated Goku was because he cried as a baby. Goku's crying was somehow so bad it reminded Broly of when he got stabbed as an infant. Completely ridiculous
Don't mess with Dragon Ball fans, we watch the movies maybe once or not at all then argue with the droplets of information we haven't refreshed on in years
Being a Edgy ass hole doesn't mean Broly has a personality 😂😂😂
either that or their only experience with the movies comes from TFS lmfao
Most dragon ball fans haven’t even seen the show in like 10 plus years. Or worse they watch it though TikTok lol
That’s the dragon ball fandom for you. They only care about how and who Goku solos.
Lol
Old Broly encapsulated how much of a psychopath a Saiyan could truly be. Not even Frieza is that scary. Broly could just destroy like Frieza, but Broly relished in the pain, torture, and helplessness of his victims before finishing them off.
So did Frieza though. He inflicted loads of psychological torture on Vegeta while on Namek, even made him feel hope that maybe he _was_ the Super Saiyan before crushing it and reducing him to tears in front of Goku before killing him. And what he did to Krillin. Man. First impaling him and rocking him the way he did while mocking him. And then sending him up in a controlled ascent before blowing him up from the inside out. Frieza could have just killed any of them, no one was strong enough to beat Frieza before Goku transformed into a Super Saiyan. But he made the entire thing a spectacle because he just could.
The one thing that always bothered me about the Planet Vegeta rewrite in Super, is that Frieza didn't cackle and celebrate like he did in Z. Z Frieza was really on some shit during the Saiyan extermination, to the point where he even disturbed Zarbon and Dodoria, who were otherwise just as fucked up in the head as he was at times.
Really missing just how sadistic Freeza was/is.
Frieza is a psychopath. Broly is a sadist.
@@TheRealKazberrydidn't hit the same as when broly did it
Z Broly was more unpredictable than Frieza, I think that's what makes him more terrifying than Frieza.
Broly: “Where do you think you’re going?”
Paragas: “I’m preparing to leave with you”
Broly: “In a pod for one person?”
And people called Z Broly dumb. Maybe in the sequel and the 3rd one we dont talk about because it wasnt even him
@@undeadinside3571In his defense on the second one, your brain would be 90% brain damage too if you had been exploded by your own energy, launched across the universe, crashed into another planet, gotten flash frozen in a lake, and then woken up as the lake thaws by a strange crying that sounds vaguely like this one memory you half remember of a guy you wanted to kill.
@@theendersmirk5851 I didn't think anyone could sum up Second Coming more accurately...
@@theendersmirk5851exactly he was literally freezed in ice for 7 years.
Paragas: “Now Broly, show your father the love he has shown you!”
“Give us a handicap”
“Is that another word for coffin?”
Cold.
This Broly doesn't give a f*ck, and I love it
I wonder what the translation is
Still my favorite DBZ quote
@@undeadinside3571 Its number 2 behind "Kakarot, how much do you love your son?" for me
"A monster? No, I'm the devil!"
Vegeta- "I am the ruler of all Saiyans! Even you, Broly!"
Broly- "Then please - do your best to make me kneel before you!”
One of my favorites
Ha! You forgot to add the HA! 😉
@Wolf10media you are correct 🤣
“So It’s true, You’re talking no action, a true piece of trash”
0:16-When someone rushes in to use the bathroom after you just got done.
Daaamn. That's just evil, man...
@@Burn_Angel What do you expect from a true freak?
"z broly just says kakarot"
dbs broly screaming for half the movie
1st half being a character who when said to have a poor heart the audience actually believes it. Here he so cool if you don't do mental gymnastics
ONG, once he got into battle he never spoke a word till he (literally) got some sense knocked into him
But dbs broly has a better character development. In the manga he fights beast gohan and now he can transform into ssj without losing control
Maybe he has a better char dev because he was made canon to hype the power-hungry fans? Movie Broly never had the chance. Still, he at least got three movies. Two too many, but still. And the first one was enough to make him legendary.
Least he only says Kakarot at the end
Damn, Vic Mignogna's Broly sounded so different in the original movie. Just compare this to like Xenoverse 2 or FighterZ, it's like two completely different voices.
fighterz is ichigo's voice actor. xenoverse is vic. broly's VA was changed like 2-3 years ago
@@omenafroI think Johnny Bosch (Ichigo VA) only voiced DBS Broly in FighterZ. Z Broly is still voiced by Vic when he did his lines for that game, unless there’s a third voice actor that I’m not aware of.
In Legends, Z Broly was also voiced by Johnny Bosch this time. However one of the newer Z Broly units had both VAs weirdly enough, and since they both sound different, something about it was off imo.
@@WarriorConsole it's because for the games, they can reuse some of Vics lines most likely since Z Broly doesn't have any specific dialogue for anyone other than trash talking Kakarot or Vegeta. So there's a small chance we can keep hearing Vic in games but only for Z Broly. Anything else, especially Super Broly, its Johnny now. Anime is guaranteed Johnny too.
And then he got fired for false accusations from his bastard co workers 🤦♂️
@@ashuraomega1000that's sad. I actually miss vic as broly
"You're probably dreaming you could go back there someday."
"BUT IT'S JUST A DREAM!"
why is broly so cool man
Oh my god he's so GOD! DAMN! COOL!
“Not until you lie dead at my feet” colddddd
Ok I couldn’t understand that part couldn’t hear what Broly was saying now I know
@@softwaregear24He’s been frozen in ice for 7 years and lost he’s sanity, I was actually surprised that he said something, and it was so badass
@@thatoneguy3503 You say that like he had any sanity at all before that.
Fun fact: In the Japanese Dub of the Z Broly movie Paragus explained that Broly actually sensed Goku's power when he first arrived on the trap planet/New Planet Vegeta (Specifically in the scene where they were sizing each other up and everything faded to black except for them and their auras.) and that caused his saiyan instincts to go out of control which made him see Goku as a powerful opponent he wanted to fight and kill, the crying had nothing to do with it. He says quote, "Could it be Kakarrot? Does this mean that Broly's instincts as a saiyan have been awakened by Kakarrots power, and he is starting to overcome my mind control?"
Also in the JP dub he only knows Goku's saiyan name because Vegeta said it right in front of Broly. Broly also only starts remembering Goku right when he is defeated. Also for people who keep misreading my comment, Broly didn’t get his saiyan instincts unlocked until he sensed Goku as an adult, Baby Goku had nothing to do with it!
Louder for the people in the back!
@@jdrmanmusiqking SPREAD THE WORD BROTHER!
Even with this ppl will still say he was motivated by a crying infant😂🤦🏾♂️
So he's psychotic because of his power, and the only thing KAKAROT has to do with it is being a worthy opponent whose power triggered Broly's to awaken, the crying being a null factor and being important because of a dubism? Got it.
Dragon Ball fans when subtle storytelling
Kale and Super Broly: “We can’t fully control our power and fear hurting our friends.”
Z Broly: “That’s some weak shit right there.”
0:22 what if Z broly was called freaky broly and instead of killing the Z fighters he gave them all backshots
Broly would make Diddy look like a joke 😂
Dawg...wtf did I just read?
He did give backshots to gohan
2nd movie - broly gives videl backshots... Imma have to Google that one later🤔
I would let Broly give me backshots 🥵
Imagine if DBZ fans actually watched the movie.
Modern Dragonball "fans" don't watch or read shit.
@@inkchariot6147 yep
@@inkchariot6147Maybe it's the Mandela effect, but for some reason, I also remembering people stereotype Dragon Ball fans as overly smart and nerdy. Maybe it was some other anime fandom, but I seriously remember there being a trend of people calling Drgaon Ball fans the smartest people on earth (Most likely due to the absolutely insane powerscaling debates).
@@knightfallprotocol DragonBall fans🤝Star Wars fans not watching their content
@@inkchariot6147and then there's people like you that think they're better than everyone but reality, you make dragonball fans look embarrassing
_I always find it funny how people whine about Z Broly because "he had a bad motive", as if DB villains are known for having any real motivation._
No villain after frieze arc had good motives.
@@ataladin87Zamasu had interesting motives.
@Ghostguy693 no he didn't.
Bro got pissed off because Goku damaged his pride in training..
@@ElijahW2003 _His motive does not work in the DB universe, and is frankly dum af. He whines about how mortals should be eliminated and how Gods are all that matters, yet literally 99% of gods in DB were mortals. Lol._
_Not to mention he hates mortals for being violent. Yet literally most gods fight, and the ultimate God likes watching fights._
@@VonKey. _Why on Earth are you talking like this?_
Also, it's _supposed_ to be hypocrititical, that's the point. I said it was an _interesting_ motive, not a _reasonable_ one. In a narrative, those are two different things.
They only beat him because of plot armor, he dog walked them all the whole movie
Dude didn't even get hurt until the very last sec. Straight plot armor wins again
I'm still wondering what amount of energy the Z fighters even had left to give at that point, they were all pretty much out for the count at that point. One of the dumbest DBZ movie endings, right up there with Coolers Revenge - I hate how Cooler loses straight away when Goku goes Super Saiyan.
@@KadSkirata agree on both movies. The Cooler one pissed me off.
And he was only as strong as he was because fhe writefs bullshat his power... Point is, it's all arbitrary horseshit lol
yeah that's what writing means, bad one at that, they could've killed him in so many creative ways, teamwork combos, some 5v1 beam-clash, obliterating him with the meteor that was coming, special beam cannon through the head or chest while they all try to hold all his limbs would've gone so hard.
People forget he was being surpressed for the first half of the movie, and once awakens LSS he kinda snaps outa it and his Evil Saiyan traits come out!
You're literally the only guy that actually gets it💯Everyone else saying nonsensical stuff without knowing how Z Broly's character operates
@@chadgrimes252Therese no understanding he’s evil just for the sake of being evil with a shity backstory to go with it lol
@@GeckoMoriiaall saiyans were inherently evil (ofc super changed that) the guy was there to beat ass then get his ass beat like every other movie villain.
If only his motivation wasn't dumbass stupid 💀
@@user-p4y4zwhy are radizt and Vegeta interesting then? Being evil has to come with how and why. The why isn't compelling so therefore the audience does not care.
"What is a king to a god?"
"What's the safeword?"
And what is a god to a non-believer (Broly processes to kick Vegeta's ass)
“Now do you believe?”
@@EGGPLAYUH420j9Uh-huh… so cool…
@@EGGPLAYUH420j9 sooo...coool...
"Is that another word for coffin?" and "How much do you love your son?" are DIABOLICAL! Broly was *reveling* in in his power.
Him blowing up the moon and saying "oops, did I do that?" is hilariously petty and funny as fuck.
He blew up their home planet not a moon
Cosmic menace urkel
That was clearly a planet. You deaf?
that's not really speacial at this point
Such an amazing contrast between the original and reboot. One Broly is a gentle giant who doesn’t actually like fighting. Plunged into the position of Legendary Super Saiyan and lethal weapon through trauma and abuse.
The other is a psychopathic brute who sadistically loves torturing his prey. Taking absolute delight in their suffering and mocking them at every opportunity.
Props to you for being the few to realize it being a reboot
Super Broly is a better character and Z Broly is a better villain, plain and simple
@@DBGamer1027very wrong. People just say stuff because it makes them sound smart or deep but it actually has the opposite effect
Define "character" ... You cant. Because there is absolutely no metric where DBS Broly qualifies as a good character
DBS Broly has a deeper backstory and personality than "he lives to destroy and really hates Kakarot because he cried", Super Broly hates fighting but was forced to by his father, who he still cared about despite the endless abuse he was put through for his whole life.
@@DBGamer1027 People just say this to make themselves sound smart. DBS Broly 's backstory is overrated as hell. It makes no sense because whats said and whats shown are 2 different things.
Also Backstory DOES NOT = character so people need to actually learn what words mean. "Character" is their presence ON SCREEN and DBS Broly is not an interesting character. He NEVER dominates the screen when he is on it
New broly is good and all but the classic was just something else
Old Broly was better new one barely talks
Old Broly encapsulated how much of a psychopath a Saiyan could truly be. Not even Frieza is that scary. Broly could just destroy like Frieza, but Broly relished in the pain, torture, and helplessness of his victims before finishing them off.
I think the concept of Broly works better as a villain but Super broly is just a better character in my opinion
Og Broly is Best Broly
@@StevenJones851 I don’t think the new one talks he just yells
I think it’s funny that people can’t just acknowledge that he was just meant to be a psychopath
1:11 we definitely did overlook this line tho.
Gohan: i've had enough
Broly: not until you lie dead at my feet
Thats a cold line right there
Z Broly is such a menace He's great 😂
“Not until you lie dead at my feet” such a cold af line
0:28 Poor Vegeta catching another L 💀
bro got hit so hard going down the Mario 64 slide level 💀
Mean while super broly the opposite, bro loses personality when he go berserk 😭🙏
0:05
You know who else is dreaming to go back to their planet?
MY MOM!
Z broly will always be my favorite dragon ball villian
The way DBZ characters trash talk is on another level 😂
Maybe some of the dbz games had something to do with this misconception
true dat.
xenoverse 2 gets to be the worst when it comes to misconceptulising broly.
Some is an understatement lol
@@SabaClayMateSaba XV2 actually gave Broly a personality and made him a mentor lol. You've never even played the game 😂😂
@@dangerousdays2052 the dialogue at times:
@@SabaClayMateSabaYou butchers "misconceptualise"
Broly fans really try to pretend that the second movie doesn't exist and Broly haters really try to pretend the first movie doesn't exist.
honeslty? you could make a fan edit and add more voice lines to Broly in 2 and it'd be so much better. His face is extremely expressive, and despite saying very little.. you can tell what he's thinking for a lot of it.
If anything, Broly is a PTSD case in the dragonball world. He caught a whiff of Gokus energy and had that reminder of surviving an execution as well as a planetary cataclysm. Homie just needed a hug at some point 😂😅
Z Broly is pure evil! Especially with his savage quirky remarks(he isn't some big dumb idiot)
Ironic considering it's actually DBS Broly who just screams & shouts mindlessly
Vic was irreplaceable as Broly. Now we have angry dead weight Ichigo.
Jk. I love JYB. But hearing that voice from Broly is so uncanny to me.
Johnny's Broly sounds like a pubescent teenager trying to put on a tough guy voice
It really doesn't fit at all they could've at least looked for a different VA
He's possibly the worst VA they could've picked for broly
Vic is to Broly what DiMaggio is to Rath
#Justiceforvic
It is actually honestly interesting that he just became himself after that thing suppressing him his father had broke. He could barely even talk, was like on meds with that thing, not even really there, his child-rage on Kakarot made him break it and become who he really was. Understandable that he hated Paragos, imagine your father is scared of you and puts you on medication that puts you down so much you can barely talk.
Never understood why his eyes became all white like that on Super Saiyan.
Goku's eyes also did it in false SSJ
Trunks’ eyes did that for a few seconds when entering SSJ Grade 3, and when entering SSJ Rage.
Maybe it’s tied to very heavy, powerful forms fueled by rage?
Because it's legendary!
Because he's insaiyan.
@@inkchariot6147 You're a gentleman of true taste and culture.
Jiren is everything they claim they hate about Broly, but they eat that shit up.
A superhero good guy character who had trust issues but learns to trust his friends seeing how valuable trust and friendship really is. Who constantly talks and shows calm and composure untill he is at his absolute bewaking point?
How is that like what people claim en broly was? An op hulk rip off who barely speaks,with annoyin fans.
Hmmm that does sound familar... oh wait thats exactly what new broly is! Barely speaks, breaks powerscaling in a stupid way with how quickly he grows to God levels, becomes a mindless monster when in ssj form. And even wears purple pants like the hulk.
New broly is actually the one who perfectly represents what people hated old broly for.
But hey make him a good guy and give people pretty animated fights and suddenly nobody bats an eye
@@kingpinofcrime Fair points about new Broly, but I sure dont remember Jiren "constantly talking". Dude was just silently staring at people until Goku used Ultra Instinct. A lot of complaints I hear about Broly is "his only personality trait is strong". Still, I guess im treating Jiren like people treat Broly lol.
So wrong, I remember clearly still have old post as well did no one like jiren backstory or the way he was written the community been shiting on jiren since forever
@@GeckoMoriia Yeah thats the point. People didnt like his backstory, they liked him when he was "silent and strong". AKA no personality, just big. What people hate about "Broly"
I like em both. Don't care what anybody says. I can have my own opinions and likes. Nobody wants to be in a echo chamber where no one else can have a different opinion.
1:23 why does he sound like an angry grandma man
Bro gives another definition to the word "being a menace"
i never understood why that narrative got popular i feel like ppl only watched the second movie and made their conclusion on that
Legit the only version of broly that could actually talk full sentences and roast goku all in one go
Fact! The dbs broly is the one who can only scream.
@@raihokyol1566 yupss
@@raihokyol1566 Yeah Even Though In Parodies Dbs Broly Can Talk Not Just Base But Wrathful, Super Saiyan And Legendary Super Saiyan
@@raihokyol1566 It's almost as-if Broly grew up on a remote planet with one other person, practically in total isolation. He can hardly form sentences as it is. Why would he waste time talking to someone who his father and Frieza sent him out to fight?
@@galaxyrunaway because why fighting if he is "good"?
That's why dbs broly has No personality. He is a tool for almost everyone unable to think by himself.
Ironically enough he has more dialogue than the new Broly lol
The perfect villain. What a badass
Z Broly probably says more in this video than Super Broly does in all his appearances combined.
People remember him having no personality because a majority of his other appearances follow the Second Coming approach where he's more brainless.
The one game I remember really going back to this approach to his characterization is Xenoverse 2 having him as a master with tons of dialogue.
Budokai is especially guilty of only featuring Broly with his second coming esque dialogue.
Oh so we ARE pretending the other movies don't exist
Exactly 💀 the second coming had him yelling KAKAROT 24/7 till the end lmao
@@comics4556 First film Broly is definitely different, but this Broly exists in 3 movies
They were pretty bad. Just wish people would recognize they stopped trying in second coming.
We're Dragon Ball fans. Of course we pick and choose what content we need to prove a point!
Good point, but it also makes sense to come down to it being that yes the Broly from the second film sucks, but still doesn't directly ruin the one from the first
Handicap? Is that another word for coffin!
and yet fans will still say 'dbs Broly had mOrE personality'
DBS Broly's only traits are
- RAAARGH
- green lady
- sad bc his dad didn't let him play with the stray dog in their backyard
@@zackxeno1019yet he is having his green lady stolen by Beerus 😂
I'm sorry bro but this is barely a personality. With DBS Broly he's supposed to come off as a Silent raging monster, (Similar to hulk)
DBZ Broly personality is so fucking basic. Its the typical Edgy, Sadistic, and Ruthless personality that's been done to death by so many characters, it's on the level of a dragon OC. Like yeah, he has a personality but it's so boring that it's basically a template. Their are C-list heros in marvel and DC who got more depth than Broly
@@silent.revolution2168 it's ok, he's acquired "Saiyan pride"
@@HotFootBunny ehh no it's not boring it's quite fun he's just as evil as Freeza and Cell and he enjoys it Super Broly has the Tarzan trope which is boring and very reserved I prefer how bombastic Z broly is and while dbs Broly may have the better story dbz broly has the better character and stage presence
You can write a dissertation on the irreperable damage that Second Coming did to Broly as a character, I swear.
He was never a mindless rampaging beast. He was a sadistic, brutal, psychopathic, nigh-unstoppable monster. And that got lost for something so much worse.
i like how broly is now called z broly
0:45 if you pause well it looks like broly is using LSSJ with his black hair
YOUR RIGHT STOP WHEN HE FIRES THE KI BLAST YOU WILL SEE IT
Asking for a handicap then point blanking a kame in brolys face just to get destroyed is the most disrespectful thing I've seen happen to goku
Lemme level with you as a sci fi writer, Broly is actually well written because he is SIMPLE.
Think of the classic rule, show don’t tell. What happens alot with shonen in general is the exposition of abilities, backstories, and general motives/goals. It is not necessarily a bad thing. Other genres also play with this formula too, so it is not unusual. But not Broly.
Almost all of Broly’s exposition is done by his father, a ‘flawed narrator’. He loves his son, I think at least enough to see him as a symbol of sayain pride. granted, he is not naive on his son’s danger to himself and others. It is not frankly unusual he made a mind control crown since Broly is shown to be a psychopath. Like, actually. He shows no empathy and has no social understanding of the idea of friends or even family. He literally crushed his dad to death! Frankly, his mother which we never see probably has a nicer fate being blown up by Freeza.
Broly is a sadist. He is a gifted fighter, but not out of experience like someone like Goku or Piccolo or someone with immense talent like Vegeta or Gohan. He just is gifted because he doesn’t have any moral or psychological scrupples. He will run you over with a fucking football tackle before he even ‘thought’ of what it can do. He is unimpeded. And that is why he is a great villain. But admittedly, his fanbase loves him a bit too much. Most DBZ misinfo I have seem usually comes either from here or the Janemba movie or with Buu or whatever.
Definitely memorable and should be studied. Also, hot take, the second movie wasn’t that bad. Simply because Biobroly exists. And yeah. second coming is like, still maybee 3rd worst overall dragon ball movie, but it was pretty solid if you like Gohan. Which I do, so.
...okaaaay, that's definitely a villain. Kinda too much of a villain than how I remember.
Daaaamn...
Z Broly: Is that your planet right there
“Yeah why”
Z Broly: F*** your planet, oh s*** my hand slipped, just kidding
Mom: why is the dog pregnant
Me: 0:19
Broly genuinely lost his mind in Second Coming
Well if i was trapped inside an ice cap for seven years straight I would too
@ tell that to tapion
This was peak dragon ball
WHEN IS SOMEBODY GOING TO MATCH MY FREAK?!
I can't unhear Broly saying this
@@red-hoodie.007 good.
In 2019 when he got rebooted
Fr people who say "All broly do is say kakarot over and over" never even watched the movies in their live
0:23 Freaky 👅👅👅
What if Dragon Ball Z was called Dragon Ball Freak and instead of fighting with them they were shooting ki blasts up each others asses
People need morally gray or tragic/relatable villains these days for them to be 'good' villains
Z Broly was menace and a psychopath because he KNEW was more powerful than anyone else and not a damn person could stop him
This was hype as a kid with the nu-metal soundtrack
Broly had so much character. Until the next two movies where they made him just a mindless wordless freak. But in the first one he actively taunts and laughs and his opponents.
He had permanent brain damage after the punch he took in the first movie
People seem to forget that this complaint doesn't come from the original Broly movie, but from the next 2. Z fumbled the character harder than katchin.
Yeah that’s great Broly, but just wait until Krillin gets here and beats your ass with his critically acclaimed Destructo Disk
"Hey! Why don't you give us a handicap?!"
"Is that another word for coffin?"
It's crazy the amount of hyperbole people use to describe dbz. "All they do is yell", "Goku is a bad father", "Broly has zero personality", etc. Just inaccurate.
You're forgetting that at least half the fandom thinks DBZA is canon
Edit: Replies proving my point
And?
And those dummies run with whatever tfs says @@alexanderren1097
@@alexanderren1097 What do you mean and? The broly people think is the kakarot one is dbza.
Which is both hilarious amd sad 😅
@@heitoraubinzanettimion3426 what?
Why does modernity hate DBZ? Just more of a reason to reject modernity
People hate Dragon ball fans not dragon ball
@@MILDMONSTER1234 I always notice kiddos that only seen DB Super be hating on Z even tho they never seen it. It's just ignorance I guess.
@@extremepop324no one hating fans just growing up and realizing how shit some of these movie characters are
I feel like this is a very odd use of the word Modernity it's more like most people are losers now (for a variety of reasons) that hate everything to make themselves feel better.
@extremepop324 tbh, most Z films are ass. I'd need to rewatch some of them, but I do remember Tree of Might, Battle of Gods, and Fusion reborn being pretty enjoyable (Hell, BoG is still in discission for the best DB Film imo). But the rest are either easily forgettable (Lord Slug, Android 13, both Cooler movies, Resurrection of F) or are actually terrible, whether it be due to writing mistakes, boring characters or Both (In the case of Wrath of the Dragon, All 3 OG broly films, Boujack reborn).
Its so weird watching this without hearing the licensed rock music
Z Broly, The real Saiyan of Legend
That handicap retort was brutal
The current generation are in love with victims
I love the *MENACE!*
Fact Bro!
(Also correct "Menace", you wrote "meance")
Obvoiusly you aren't in love with spelling lol. Typical Dragon Ball fan. What are you? 40 something? Looooll, grow up. 😂😂
Badass Menaces in 90's Fiction>>>>>>>>>>Soyboy victim mentality in Modern fiction
Cool, there's nothing wrong with that
They relate more to a victim because they are victims themselves. That’s why they think victims have more personality. 😂
Broly is just a real Saiyan, conquering planets and not caring about it. Something vegeta was doing 😂
The scenes hit deep with the original soundtrack
No disrespect to super Broly but OG Broly is the GOAT
Why is he so green
@@radicaIized because he's LEGENDARY
When they say that, they're talking about Movie 10, because that's the good one.
I can't forget the "Sto facenn nu maronn ij cacio e maccarun e nisciun madda scassà o' cazz" it will always give me the chills...
0:40
Is that another word for coffin?
dam Broly...
;D
All good but nothing tops Big Green Dub Broly
Og Broly is Best Broly
Fact!
Nope
Not in terms of having a personality 💀
@@origon4477 Remind me which Broly only screams during his whole fight ?
Oh yeah ! Caveman dbs Broly !
@@raihokyol1566before the shock collar his father put on triggers or the death of his father triggers him
0:28 I totally forgot he called Vegeta "trash" 💀💀💀
Z-Broly was a saiyan at heart; resentful towards his father, but a saiyan nonetheless.
Kinda opposite of Trunks, whose Super Saiyan 3rd Grade was the inspiration for him.
Z Broly is truly the bloodlust side of a typical Saiyan mind. Aggressive, Ruthless, No care for any life on a planet. It's no wonder King Vegeta was terrified of him even when he was just a baby. The potential bloodlust within a Saiyan....it's absolutely terrifying to experience.
Generic bad guy dialogue isn't much of a personality.
@@infamousplayer8772 YOU'RE generic bad guy dialogue that isn't much of a personality.
@@knightfallprotocolSick burn.
As a DB fan, you have the slightest idea how many villains (even the popular ones) could be boiled down to just "generic bad guy dialogue"?
@@WarmLusamine I don't think I need to elaborate on why the likes of Frieza and Cell make for much, much better antagonists for their respective stories than Broly right?
@@infamousplayer8772It's simple dialogue and even cliché, but it works and makes him a pretty good character overall: a sociopathic mental patient. It's perfectly in Dragon Ball standards, considering that Frieza is also simply a "generic" galactic emperor, and it still works quite well, despite not being excellent
Wow 1.26 minutes in an entire film. So much character writing
The video is pointing out that in fact, he did not "only scream Kakarot" and has quite a bit of personality. It does not say "Broly is more in depth than you think!" or "Broly is a well written character" but apparently that's really hard for DB fans like yourself to understand.
@@DarkPaladinX77apparently it's tough for the Broly dick riders, too.
@@DarkPaladinX77Video also doesn't refer to anyone actually saying "He has no personality and only yells Kakarot". From what I hear, most people just say his origin story is awful.
Two films in fact, awesome character development indeed
@@DarkPaladinX77 By saying that he has some personality he is BY EXTENSION saying that Broly is more complex than it really is, how hard is that for you to see? Also: being a psychopath is not a "personality". Does Broly having no true personality really hurts that much?
I can see both sides here. Broly was (even with the clarity of what his ACTUAL backstory and behavior is) pretty stupid.
Even though Goku’s crying triggers memories of his time with King Veggie, that still wouldn’t have his name set him off, or even have him recognize him most likely. I mean they’re 40 years older than when they last met. EVEN then, goku doesn’t exactly cry to set off broly.
Yeah, broly has *some* personality, yeah he’s not as bad as people say he is, but he’s still bad.
No, you clearly can’t see both sides here because you’re literally missing the fact that they’re rivals, BORN rivals, saiyans born on the same day are destined to be rivals, the whole smoke between him and Goku was a RIVALRY, albeit a pretty rough one (they’re saiyans so it explains) go and watch the movie again bruh, Goku and broly were battling in spirit as babies, and Goku was winning, hence the reason why when they met broly became all types of uncomfortable, there was a scene of this guy sweating his ass off as if he was AFRAID of what he had encountered hours earlier
@@Zpaphandlerrr ..again, thats.. kinda dumb? I’ve never really seen it or heard of that explanation, like.. ever??? I know what ya mean in terms of broly sweating bullets in that one scene but like.. rivals? huh? Born to be rivals from being born on the same day? what? I mean, if thats true, its an explanation i suppose. A really bad one, because I’m not even sure how thats supposed to work.. plus goku had actual amnesia, I’m not sure how that would work out. Its also just kinda out of the blue and confusing, they don’t really have a rivalry either, Goku gets his ass beat as much as everyone else, wins, and then literally never fights him ever again. Vegeta honestly fits the “destined rival” way better both thematically and power wise, and as someone else has said, broly even stopping considering goku as a powerful saiyan warrior mid movie (iirc.) Broly being a “destined rival” even if true, is just subpar writing. Again, better than what people say he is, but still subpar.
tldr: where’d ya hear that
@@dreemurrprince in the words of paragus in the JP sub (the same point where he says they were born on the same day)
“Goku’s ki is triggering broly’s sayain instinct”
This could mean many things, but the most basic is goku stimulated broly’s sayain instincts to fight, forcing him to override the effects of the mind control
@@hbshadow8981 ..uh, ok. That still doesn’t explain.. literally anything i said. Him overcoming the mind control isnt an issue, saiyans did it and do it all the time.
@BreezO. Z Broly is one hell of a Rival, huh? Y'know... being born on the same day then quite literally not even knowing Kakarot is still alive, meanwhile his 'Rival' and Vegeta are currently engaged in probably one of the best rivalries I've personally seen in Anime.