RIP Alma: unedited raw video of the fatal raven & fox attack at Satakunta Osprey nest 1 25 Jun 2021
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- 25 /7/ 2021 Statement from Satakunta Osprey project about Ossi & Alma's two relocated chicks:
Many have asked about the two babies of Ossi and Alma moved to the second nest as a result of the unfortunate events on Midsummer Eve. The chicks were ringed and investigated during the move.
The inspector of the nest visited the scene and found that one of the chicks had passed away. It was surprising that the deceased baby was the one who survived the raven attack with seemingly minor injuries. The cause of death of the baby was no longer able to be concluded at that point. The relocated chick has a yellow ring SRS, which was added during the relocation. On Thursday 22.7 SRS was photographed in flight near the nest, so this story seems to have a happy ending.
Midsummer's Eve events showed once again that anything can happen at the nests approach something you can't possibly prepare for. Hopefully Ossi will find a good partner for next year. A good sign is that Ossi has not abandoned his nest place due to setbacks, but has lived there in the last few days. And best of all, we've also seen females with Ossi on the nest. Next spring we'll see how the story continues in Ossi's nesting swamp.
The presence of ravens at Ossi's nesting swamp has also sparked discussion. However, they have been living in the same areas for a long time and they haven't been more harmful to the weather. The weathers have been nesting in that nest continuously since 2005; the first failure came only the other year as a result of a visit tby a goshawk and the second setback this year because of the raven.
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This is a remote nest cam streaming live. No camera operators are present. Footage starts at 09.52 with the family peacefully on the nest, shows the raven doing a fly-by of the nest at 10.01 and ends at 11.25 with Ossi alarm calling repeatedly after the raven attacked and wounded Alma leaving her on the ground unable to fly and then being taken by a fox. Footage copyright Satakunta Osprey project, links at the bottom.
The raven attack started with the fly-by at 10.01. It returned at 10.30 to be chased by Alma into the trees resulting in the sustained attack on her - persistently attacked Alma on the ground, for more than 15 minutes, the fight is visible in the trees in front of the nest. It returned to the nest at 10.45 with Alma's feathers on its beak, and attacked the chicks, killing one and injuring another, leaving the third unharmed before being chased away by Ossi with quite an aerial fight backwards and forwards over and around the nest. The fox came along about 11.20, Alma was still alive and fought the fox before it carried her off.
What provoked the sustained raven attack? Perhaps it has its own young nearby to defend? But who knows why. Just tragic for the family. The two surviving chicks have been removed and relocated on a non-camera nest with only one chick in hopes those adults will accept them and raise them with their own chick.
Statement from the Satakunta Osprey Project:
The progress of nesting became virtually impossible after Alma's death. Such small chicks cannot be flown by an Osprey male alone, i.e. fed, defended and protected from heat. Numerous experts were consulted on the follow-up and it was finally concluded that the only option for the larger chicks is in another nest.
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Nest #1 is located in the Satakunta region in Western Finland. Ospreys have nested there since 2005. The male Osprey, Ossi, has inhabited the nest since 2014. He has a ring on his right leg and according to the ringing data he hatched in Karkku, Sastamala in 2009. Alma, the female, doesn’t have a ring and therefore her age and hatching location are unknown.
In 2019 Alma and Ossi’s nesting failed due to a Goshawk attacking the nestlings. Nevertheless, the pair returned the following year and raised three fledglings. Since 2017 Alma and Ossi have raised a total of eight fledglings.
Appropriate permits have been obtained for the description of the nests from both landowners and the Southwest Finland Center for Economic Development, Transport and the Environment.
25 /7/ 2021 Statement from Satakunta Osprey project about Ossi & Alma's two relocated chicks:
Many have asked about the two babies of Ossi and Alma moved to the second nest as a result of the unfortunate events on Midsummer Eve. The chicks were ringed and investigated during the move.
The inspector of the nest visited the scene and found that one of the chicks had passed away. It was surprising that the deceased baby was the one who survived the raven attack with seemingly minor injuries. The cause of death of the baby was no longer able to be concluded at that point. The relocated chick has a yellow ring SRS, which was added during the relocation. On Thursday 22.7 SRS was photographed in flight near the nest, so this story seems to have a happy ending.
Midsummer's Eve events showed once again that anything can happen at the nests approach something you can't possibly prepare for. Hopefully Ossi will find a good partner for next year. A good sign is that Ossi has not abandoned his nest place due to setbacks, but has lived there in the last few days. And best of all, we've also seen females with Ossi on the nest. Next spring we'll see how the story continues in Ossi's nesting swamp.
The presence of ravens at Ossi's nesting swamp has also sparked discussion. However, they have been living in the same areas for a long time and they haven't been more harmful to the weather. The weathers have been nesting in that nest continuously since 2005; the first failure came only the other year as a result of a visit tby a goshawk and the second setback this year because of the raven.
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Fascinating events and remarkable that so much of it (including the flight and the attack by the fox) was all captured on the fixed remote camera! Also, what a story for the Osprey pair with the 2019 nest attacked by the Goshawk!
@@folkq Fortunately the Goshawk stayed away this year so at least one chick got to fledge, albeit on another nest with foster parents. The male Ossi has been seen several times with a female stranger, so it's looking good for his story to continue next year, and he & Alma fledged 9 chicks so her legacy will continue too.
@@GeemeffGeemeff fantastic, glad to hear!
@@folkq 👍
Did that Raven kill those 2 nearly 3 birds all for that half eaten fish? or would the Raven have eaten them too?
So very sorry for the loss of 2 beautiful Raptors. Lots of sad news this season, across many nests. Heartbreaking ❤
2021 has been a rough year for Ospreys and nest cam watchers.
Every year is rough for Osprey! Their odds of making it to 2 years are less than 50%!
Every other birds will be thankful these birds of prey didn't make it
I have a feeling that raven is attacking every nest it sees due to maybe it’s babies being eaten aswell, ravens are extremely smart
@@stellviahohenheim Ospreys eat fish. They do not go after other birds except to guard their nests.
The circle of life. This is the daily struggle in nature which has been going on since the dawn of time and will continue to take place until the end of time.
I didn't know that the circle of life is ' kill for fun '
@@0utOfSpace1416 I isn't, and thinking that doesn't make it so.
Those poor babies suffering in pain was hard to watch… I just wish the nest could be better hidden since those babies are so out in the open.
Ospreys always make their nests out in the open. Those big wings need clear space for takeoff and landing, and they like to be able to have a clear long distance view.
I swear you can literally see where the Father Osprey and the Raven Fell from the sky. Same place Fox came to get the body. You can also see the Raven leaving after like 30 minutes of what could have been a struggle on the ground once they fell, Super intense and interesting. Great footage for sure.
Time marks?
38:16 - They plummet to the ground (Raven/Osprey)
41:26 - seen fighting on floor. (Poss 2 Ravens?)
44:08 - stop struggling
49:55 - Raven flies out of fight/fox/body location
1:01:05 - Poss 2nd Raven Finishes the Job returns to fight/struggle w/1st Raven and osprey alive?
1:27:40 - Fox Enters Chat
@Toni Moss
@@tonitigre ❤
alma was the mother ossi the father chased the raven at the end
Since birds are the closest decedents of dinosaurs, all this chirping makes you realize that if you went back to Dino Times the whole forest would be full of the creepiest sounds.
Dinosaurs are an obvious myth.
Fr
Birds from dinosaurs...lol
@@tfun101 pretty ridiculous eveloution. But quite fascinating
If you think thats creepy. Wait till you should hear your sister lol.
I am so sorry. Losing a chick is tragic, but then Alma is also devastating.
Alma was a wonderful mother. Both get over the rainbow bridge well.
There's NO rainbow bridge! This is nature, but not a Disney nature show!
@@PRw1zard Thanks for the knowledge. I'm glad I don't have your problems.
@@principiotiger247 I just don't anthropomorphize and try really hard to see nature as just what it is. There's enough for us to be sad about...like idiots trying to take over the country. But that's another story.
@@PRw1zard For example, you could be sad because some people think they have to tell others what to believe in.
@@principiotiger247 Point well taken.
I'm impressed the parent was fighting the raven off while holding onto a fish at the same time
How do these nest cams work? Are they manned? Manned occasionally? Automatically alert with activity/movement? Just wondering because of the zooming that occurred. How was the cam able to zoom in on the fox? Automation? Or, someone just happened to be manning the cam when the fox came along and they zoomed in? Interesting.
Good question! The camera normally just streams uninterrupted from a fixed viewpoint, but it seems like here someone just happened to be watching and was able to zoom in on the activity in the forest.
I use cameras like these when I'm helping others find/trap lost pets. I have an app on my phone that alerts me everytime there is movement. Which is great, but can also be very annoying lol. I can zoom in/out, listen, use my voice to talk to the pet or scare something away, and I also have an alarm or loud beeper I can use for certain things. These cameras are reasonably priced, the wifi service for them is what's costly.
I couldn’t bring myself to watch this, what a horrible tragedy. I’m glad to read that at least 1 chick survived.
It’s just nature. When we have lost touch with the cycle of life and nature, then people stop looking. So sad. This is not a tragedy. This is life in the wild.
@@jeffparris7726 I wish I was near this nest. I wood climb to it and take the chicks to bread down and fry up.
@@moseskongi4746 uhhhh. Not cool. That’s still interfering. Plus, it’s clear you’re either acting like a jerk does or you clearly are missing the my point of view. Humans. And. Nature. Interference. It stems from the victim’s point of view. This is a weak point of view. Therefore, our bleeding hearts; although good intentioned, weakens gene pools. This should not be happening.
@@jeffparris7726 Yeah obviously it's nature doesn't mean I have to see it. I kinda get the idea of what happened...
@@moseskongi4746 Edgy McEdgelord over here
51:11 is what you are looking for
Thank you for your pictorial report, I understood everything. I can’t watch the video, my heart breaks for the victims. Man is helpless against the laws of nature, he can only help when he has the opportunity. So from a distance I mentally support the chicks, Mother Alma and little chick the bird in heaven rests in eternal peace.
Tragic times for this little family, Eva, very sad to see.
Come on now… birds/animals don't have souls. That would mean they would have the ability to differentiate between what’s right and what’s wrong. Nature isn't a Disney film where all the creatures of the forest sing and dance with one another. 😆 This is the circle of life. It happens. Everything has to eat. The fox/dog wasnt in the wrong nor was the raven…. and nobody went to “heaven.” 😅 smh
E l cuervo no mato para alimentarse. Mato para proteger su especie.
Al polluelo más débil lo mato, al otro lo jalaba con el pico para tirarlo del nido pero como no pudo optó por picotear.
@Smooth Karacho Wow! THAT was extremely rude! Btw, you don’t know me, my profession nor anything about me. People like you are the kind that scream racism at the drop of a hat!
I see you’ve deleted your pathetic comment. With your obvious idiocy, I probably would’ve deleted it too!
Have a great one! 😘
@@Butterfly-mt5ml meh.. of course not but no harm and letting someone think that if it makes them feel better, right? Besides, I pray all the time that I'll see my dog again in heaven even though it's not probable at best.
Will there be anymore updates on the chicks in the other nest
It's hoped the ringers will visit the new nest in due course to ring all the chicks - if that happens we will get an update.
See pinned comment 25/7 - one chick survived, is doing well and has fledged. Sadly the injured chick died.
This is so sad , this was the most beautiful nest of of preys, with three gorgeous chicks , nature can be so so cruel ...
My heart aches for the baby , but Alma such a wonderful gorgeous mom , ouch poor dad , he is all alone , he lost everything, his mate 😥😢😓😭💔
I love you my beautiful
Alma , Fly with your baby up to heaven 🙏
Alma & Ossi were a very good match for each other and raised many chicks together. But they were living their lives as nature intended, wild and free, and this is just what occurs naturally, hard as it is for us to observe it.
How did the mom die?
@@thechamp7111 fox attacked the mom during food finding
@@thechamp7111 details in the description.
Beautiful heartfelt share.. Heaven is lucky to have Alma and her baby😘😇♥️
How did the Osprey lost to a raven?
I kno right?!?! Didn’t kno ravens can beat ospreys
That’s pretty weak but it is what it is
@@hmoobdude391 ravens are some of the most powerful birds, and the smartest ones too so not really surprising the osprey lost to it
And I read somewhere the mother osprey could have potentially been injured before the fight, which makes it even harder
@@wagwan2038then she should have waited until the male arrived and guarded the nest. this pair already lost chicks in 2019 by leaving the nest unattended and a Goshawk devoured all 3 chicks at that time. this pair ain't the best at guarding the nest and fighting off the predators. it seems in 2019 when the Goshawk was killing the chicks, these 2 parents were not going in to fight the Goshawk, instead they were just screaming and flying around the nest. The Goshawk probably knew that the parents were not a threat to him.
I'm surprise Ospreys aren't extinct by now, their completely open for attack by almost all predators
Why confine your thoughts to only Ospreys? You could have said, birds, any bird.
@@QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO yeah majority of birds population has decreased drastically but that’s mostly credited to humans destroying their trees.
They do very well in my area. We have about 12 nests on my road and each year the young do really well thankfully.
@@XX-jh2or That and cats
They reproduce more than they die I guess
Damn, ravens are scary. It's like the grim reaper coming to visit when it enters the frame, all you see is a black shadow swooping in. No wonder mom tried to sound the alarm.
It is why they are and always will be my favorite bird.
@@trenchcoats4life891 It is why they are and always will be my most hated bird
This was very upsetting and hard to watch. I know it's nature, and everything has to eat - still a hard watch. Sad for all concerned in that family. I hope the remaining two chicks will be all right, and Ossi manages to find a new partner to start another family in the future.
Thanks for your comment Jenny, you understand how nature works - not always pretty, but just the way of being.
Ossi was eaten by the fox. Sorry but ossi didnt make it
@@miestro2883 The mother, Alma, was eaten by the fox after losing a fight with the raven. As far as I know, Ossi, the father, is still alive - hopefully to raise another family next year with a new female.
@@miestro2883 No, Ossi is still around and visiting the nest
Raptors don't have real families. They are not social creatures, and beyond the mother and occasional male/female child rearing, they don't care about their young, nor do they care about each other either. They are not a social species like Crows, nor are they that intelligent.
I'd love t know what sort of cámara and gear you guys use to make this kind of videos, I always wanted to do something similar. Thank you!!
I use screenrecording software to record bits off the livestream from my laptop and mobile phone. I don't know what kind of camera the Satakunta Osprey project have hooked up to the nest, all I know is that it works wonderfull well and allows us to watch the nest 24/7 via youtube livestream.
Aww man, the baby reached out to the raven looking for food, thinking it would feed him.
That was probably my favorite part. 😂😂
@@DS-lk3tx u need meds attention sl**
@@DS-lk3tx Moron.
😢
Magnificent, thank you!
51:12 The Raven arrives with Osprey feathers on her beak. Alma and the raven must’ve had a really bad fight in the forest obviously the raven triumphant.
The fight in the forest lasts for 15 minutes - the injured Alma fought hard before being overcome.
@th-cam.com/users/irmensul13 only in the distance seen from the nest cam, there's no close up.
@@GeemeffGeemeff yes I see Alma moving around, but the raven had a stronger beak that day…and was probably hungrier. It took the opportunity to kill off future competition to ensure it didn’t go hungry again
@@datrevmeister The Raven took advantage of Alma's injury to return to the nest and attack the chicks. Alma was still alive but unable to fly, and then the fox came along. Ravens tend not to like any other raptors even fish-eaters in their territory.
@@GeemeffGeemeff towards the end, we see another osprey, is that Alma still fighting? Or is another osprey?
That’s so sad those defenseless babies 😢
I've watched like 3 different videos of this and I haven't seen no fox. Can someone direct me to the fox please
Look at the forest at 1:28 when the picture is zoomed in
1:28:32
Yeah the fox is eating mum
How did the fox 🦊 get the osprey?
Forgive me for asking the obvious but did the parent osprey get killed by the raven? the raven had feathers on its beak when it first came to the nest so had the raven seen off the parent before attacking the nest, and what went on with the fox, thanks
Full details are in the description which should answer all your questions.
1:28:29 - fox attack. 51:09 - raven attack
This needs a pin. Thank you Sir!
I can see something moving at 1:28:29 but I can't see any attack
I don’t get it. What happened to the mother? And what fox? Over in the distance we can’t see what that blurry fox is even doing?
The Raven sounded like it was laughing that's so creepy
Ravens kill al the baby’s of all birds that hunt the same prey they’re actually highly intelligent. It’s to prevent infringement on their food supply and future attacks by enemy birds like owls. Babies are kill on site for these guys even if they’re not food. They lucky the mom came back in time.
@@kmh4674 The opposite is true as well. Ravens have many fledlings killed by other raptors.
I always wondered what happens if the parent of any baby in the wild, leave the nesting area to hunt for food, & never make it back alive to feed the young. What goes through the mind of the baby who is literally helpless. How long does they survive even if another predator didn't discover where the babies are. 🥺
Yet us humans complain about the littlest shit. Meanwhile. Nature
Anthropomorphism.
Look it up if you don't know already.
That is sooo sad. 😭😭😭
Poor babies
I can't watch this either. The description of the video is enough. I mourn the loss of a valiant mother osprey and chicks.
Alma was very brave defending her young.
It appears the raven got the better of the female osprey, as you can see it returns to the nest with white feathers in its beak. The hungry fox then took advantage. How heartbreaking and tough living in the wild is. Humans, most of them at least, have a great privilege.
same shit happens to humans, go walk in a major downtown area and look at all the homeless. Life isn't a privilege for everyone.
@@AM-cs2vz Even homeless people mostly live better than most animals, which is saying something since being homeless sucks. That's how harsh the wild is.
I don’t get it. What happened to the mother? And what fox? Over in the distance we can’t see what that blurry fox is even doing?
@@07FreshMaker You really can't see much as it is low resolution, but at the end the camera tries to zoom into the area where the mother is being attacked by the fox. Apparently the mother was unable to fly after the struggle with the raven, then a fox came by and took advantage.
@@cortster12 have you ever been an animal? How can you say that then? Humans are ignorant
gave her life for those chicks so sad 😞
Its awful, but I'm so happy to hear humans made the attempt to relocate the two chicks that made it though this horrible thing instead of just leaving them to be killed next like other nests. I really appreciate when humans interfere to save lives instead of just watching it all on their cameras.
I totally agree. I absolutely hate when people say "There's nothing we can do, let nature take it's course" ok well remember that next time you need an ambulance. Hopefully the dispatcher tells them sorry nature has to take its course nothing we can do.
@@lauralishes1 But consider whether we humans have the right to take their ability to live wild and free away from wildlife. This Osprey project decided to intervene, not all do. This sort of attack and predation is taking place all over the world in the natural world, we only know about this instance because of the nest cam.
@@GeemeffGeemeff In NEVADA , the RAVENS Decimate the Young Tortoises
@@GeemeffGeemeff if humans have the right to hunt and kill and destroy their homes. Humans sure have the right to help.
I don't think humans should help. At all. This is nature, it goes on all the time. While you save a chick you deprive another animal that could potentially starve to death along with its offspring. There is no winning.
The raven must have been fighting for its own chicks' lives. Otherwise, I doubt it would have persisted. Even taking the fish tale was telling.
Yes, it started plucking the second chick but gave up in favour of the fish remnant. Just as well for that chick.
Yeah true crows and raven don’t tolerate predator birds and their territory and go deliberately after them and their offsprings.
@@micadefries2606 just crows
@@mellissamercado7904 ravens do too. They're smart and know the adults will be a problem later so they kill babies if they get a chance.
Man that was brutal! So ruthless how the raven just savagely attacked the poor babies.
As an equally savage Osprey attacks poor baby crows. The raven is an extremely smart creature and by doing this very thoughtfully it solves part of the future problem...
@@Next96300 That's me using those words pal, not the raven. Learn the difference.
@@jerromedrakejr9332ospreys don’t prey on crows do they? thought they only ate fish
@@jerromedrakejr9332 Ospreys do not attack baby crows. They very rarely eat anything other than fish.
I'm sorry but I'm missing how Alma ended up on the ground with a fox?
Around the 60 min mark you can see a tumble down to the ground around the area where we see the fox later
She was injured probably by hitting a branch when she chased the raven through the forest, couldn't fly, and fell to the ground. You can see the raven attack her on the ground, then when satisfied she wasn't going to pursue him, the raven returns to the nest and kills the chick while she continues to flap about on the ground until the fox comes. Dimly seen from a distance, you need to look carefully to make it out.
So did the dad ever come back to the nest after chasing the Raven away?
Yes, the father Osprey Ossi did return to the nest and brought fish for the two surviving chicks: th-cam.com/video/iPyTgJd0Tyc/w-d-xo.html
Am I correct in assuming that one of the parents (the mother) is dead?
Yes. And one of the chicks.
Nature is beautiful and cruel to all. Sometimes predators become prey, balance...
So the fox happened to be in the right place at the right time and he grabbed the hawk once she landed on the ground? While fighting off a raven?? Did I get that all straight
Pretty much as it happened, yes.
@@GeemeffGeemeff That's the worst luck I've ever heard of!
Hashtag circleoflife lol
Best of luck to the remaining osplets! 💞
@{Shoes 123 UK It's not often a second chance is available, let's hope these two chicks go on to thrive and fledge successfully.
@@GeemeffGeemeff when will we get an update on those 2 chicks?
@@The073156 I don't know - the Osprey project management will decide when the time is right to obtain and release any info about the relocated chicks. After the stress on the chicks from the attack and subsequent relocation, it may be a long time before they disturb them again as the new nest doesn't have a camera.
See pinned comment 25/7 statement, the middle chick survived and has fledged, sadly the oldest chick, who was injured by the raven, didn't make it.
It really makes us wonder why the Raven ignored that last chick if the purpose was to eliminate any potential future threat. I am also wondering if the Raven or predators in general, are wired naturally to spare 1 prey for a future meal or it's nature's way of allowing a species to not become extinct 🤔
the one baby was so smart just turning away and staying still ....
I was impressed by this too; once the eaglet realized this was a foreign invader it knew the only defense it had was to turn away and be still. Instinct is amazing.
This is nature, nothing else. Nature is beautiful, amazing and unfortunate
There was nothing beautiful about that primitive and nonsensical garbage. Just pure violence.
36:16 you can see the moms demeanor change
Attack starts at 51 minutes
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So what happened here, exactly? A baby died from the crow, but how did the mom die?
A fox.
It’s in the description - the mother Osprey was injured fighting the Raven, fell to the forest floor and was taken by a fox, leaving the Raven free to come back and kill a chick. That’s the mother’s feathers stuck to his beak.
An osprey injured and defeated by a crow? Wtf? Damn crebains...
@@gorgothmog
It was a Raven. They are much bigger than Crows
Life for a bird of prey is brutal. Not only do siblings often kill each other, but they are at risk from other birds-of-prey who kill them to stamp out the competition.
did the leftover save the chick?
Maybe I am wrong, but I have noticed that ospreys are not particularly protective of their chicks. Eagles are quite fierce when under attack and start calling their partners as soon as they sense danger and their partner usually arrives right away.
Yes eagles I don’t think leave the nest unattended either
Ospreys are fierce protectors. They will fight off other birds (owls, eagles, etc.) upside down! They will only leave the nest to fight off predators. You need to hear a hazard call from an osprey to change your mind.
yeah, this same pair had left their nest unattended in 2019 resulting in a Goshawk devouring all 3 of the chicks. One of those chicks put up an incredible resistance against the Goshawk. They don't seem to be particularly adept at fighting off other hawks and in this case a raven.
@@ilayasaravanan because they are specialised for hunting small aquatic prey like fish, which makes them more vulnerable to other birds of prey that are more adept at killing large prey items including other birds
@@theotheseaeagle Yes, that makes sense, evolved to hunt fish, but lacking in aerial/ground combat skills. The divebomb that they do to catch fish, I wonder if they could use that same divebomb when they are in aerial fights or to hit a predator when it is in their nest. I guess they don't launch those attacks as they are more concerned about self preservation since any injury would mean they can't hunt.
Where is father osprey? and no clip continued father osprey my home???
37:32 After scanning the skies for danger, Mama Osprey is alerted by something. Begins sending out warning chirps, then takes off for battle.
51:06 Raven/ another Raven comes back with feather remnants around its beak, presumably from winning the skirmish with mama Osprey or from feeding on since other small birds. Claims 2 prizes.
57:20 mama Osprey still fighting the good fight.
1:03:00 Surprisingly the 2nd baby that was mauled is still kicking. (It died after according to OP's pinned comment.
16:13 ..time stamp.. Am I tripping or did this mommy bird just command her babies to get down.. Danger is near...... So stay low...
That is common behavior. The response to warnings is instant.
The one that wasn't hurt did a good job lay down and be still
Yes; not long before it lay in the middle of the three. Then it changed its position just in time and went to the outer edge; thus, the one that was on the extreme left of the video went and joined the other two and became the second victim.
Raven never forgets a face, That looked personal
Simply ask about the raven's behaviour, why the raven simply attack Alma but not eat them?
Fox may eat the mama after the attack in the jungle...
I think the raven attacked Alma because she attacked first to drive the raven away from the nest. When the raven returned and killed the first chick, it injured the second chick and started plucking feathers from the chick's head as if to eat it. Then it found a piece of leftover fish on the nest and decided to eat that instead. Then Alma's mate Ossi came and drove the raven away from the nest.
Birds kill off other birds, not always because of hunger, just to lower the competition for resources and living space. It’s natural for them, it’s easier to kill the defenseless baby birds than to pick a fight with the adult bird.
@@seekingtruth44 That applies to all species, with humans being the most dangerous of all!
@@GeemeffGeemeff If only we could remove guns!
@@elmalloc I suppose people didn’t kill each other until guns were invented? I suppose knife crime isn’t a huge problem in most countries. I suppose people don’t beat each other to death, or use weapons to kill each other, or their hands and feet? The left are determined to ban guns, yet how are you going to defend yourself from a criminal with a gun or weapon if a non criminal can’t buy one? Ridiculous
Can someone explain what a "Weather" is?
Ospreys don't know how to fight!
55:53 What's attacking the raven here? The male? Did the other die to a fox?
51:03
This put me in a bad mood
At 1:28:20 camera zooms into where the crows nest is and is clearly being attacked by some furry brown ball.
Yes, cam operator noticed the arrival of the fox and zoomed in. That was, unfortunately for Alma, a rather lethal furry brown ball.
Man thats hard to watch.
Man I was really expecting to see the momma swoop in on the raven while it was attacking and murk him. Idk how it avoided her so easily, not as quick or agile so it doesn't make much sense to me that she couldn't catch it.
Ravens are very agile. Much moreso than crows.
Ospreys are fish catching specialists, thus they haven't evolved to fight other birds. Ravens are "general purpose" and are pretty good at a lot of things, such as fighting other birds.
So is the fox attacking the mother bird?
"here's Johnny"
🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹❤❤❤❤❤❤ I love you for ever Alma , and your baby......🌷
I didnt watch that yet already know its going to be hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
That happened to him in 2022 mating season? There are no videos about that nest from this year.
The events in this video happened in 2021. After Alma was killed, Ossi did not return in 2022 - a new pair Eine (F) & Eura (M) occupied Nest 1 and raised one chick, Neo (M ring: UNN).
Два птенца же живые, самец разве не может выкормить , Если погибает самка? А, кто повесил камеру, На этом зарабатывает деньги, не уже ли нельзя спасти тех кто остался в живых.
(question: Russian translated) Galina Nechaeva commented: "Two chicks are alive, can't the male feed, If the female dies? And whoever hung the camera, Earns money on this, isn't it possible to save those who survived."
(answer) Работа самца - ловить рыбу, а работа самки - защищать гнездо - если самец пытается выполнять обе задачи, птенцы остаются без защиты, пока он ловит рыбу. Мониторинг гнезда осуществляется в рамках исследовательского проекта университета, направленного на поддержание баланса экосистемы и всей дикой природы, населяющей ее, камера гнезда не предназначена для коммерческой выгоды.
Но так случилось, что люди, которые управляют проектом Osprey, решили переселить двух выживших птенцов, и их перевели в новое гнездо, в котором нет камеры для гнезда.
(answer translation) It's the male's job to fish and the female's to protect the nest - if the male tries to do both jobs, the chicks are unprotected while he catches fish. The nest is monitored as part of a university research project to maintain the balance of the ecosystem and all the wildlife that inhabits it, the nest cam is not for commercial gain.
But as it happens, the people who manage the Osprey project decided to relocate the two surviving chicks and they have been taken to a new nest, which doesn't have a nest cam.
@@GeemeffGeemeff Thanks for information.
@@ГалинаНечаева-о6х 👍
The vibe i got, feels like the raven bite off way more than he could chew and is way over is head with the decision...
tell that to the dead osprey and baby
This is hard to watch on many levels. I love Ospreys - and all other raptors - but I love the intelligent corvids too. Nature can be very cruel.
They all have to eat to survive.
@@Butterfly-mt5ml Who said they have to survive?
@@Bessux It’s called “the circle of life” and I think it’s pretty obvious that I’m speaking in general.
Why troll, troll?
@@Butterfly-mt5ml captain obvious
@@charles9571 Obviously not if people are asking “why.”
You’re not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are ya?! 🤡
That was dark.
after first raven attack when it left with that rear part of fish, that surviving chick started looking around and at camera "that guy just took my lollipop"
That 2nd chick that got attacked is tough as heck to survive. Hope it finds that Raven's nest some day for a little payback....
The heck dude?
Payback??
what about the cameraman who let's it happen so his got a video for TH-cam... and what happened to the 3rd baby?
How about you read the description before making a comment? It’s a nest cam live-streaming from a remote forest, no one is standing nearby watching!
@@GeemeffGeemeff описание видео не подаеться авто переводу .
When a Raven flies in with chick feathers already on its beak, you know what's going to happen.
Бедные орлята! Я бы отомстил бы!
Me too. With a gun
@@agatareiter7012 🤝👍
Россиянам это должно понравиться! Право сильнейшего
Why doesnt someone provide a complete description of what transpired in this video including information about what is known but not necessarily shown.
Did you bother to read the description?
@@GeemeffGeemeff i did. It’s very poorly done. I did find a well done complete description of what occurred at another website, but thanks asking.
@@moviemaker39100 feel free to contribute a better one
The title includes a fox attack. I did not see a fox in this film at all. The mother disappeared for a long time but maybe it takes that long to find food. Was that the mother watching the raven attack and kill one of the babies? I thought it was a third chick.
The fox is seen as a red blur in the forest when the camera zooms in, you can see movement and a white blur in the forest, that is the mother Osprey who was injured fighting the Raven and fell to the floor of the forest. The three birds on the nest are all defenceless chicks who are not yet able to fly.
아무리 봐도 까마귀 잔인한 포식자
까마귀 새끼도 다른 새에게 물려 죽었어면 좋겠다 아 너무 슬프다
까마귀 죽일 방법은 없을까
google translate from Korean: No matter how you look at it, the crow is a cruel predator
I wish the crow cubs would also die from being bitten by other birds. Oh, so sad.
Is there any way to kill a crow?
Answer: Hawks, eagles & owls predate crows & ravens and their chicks. However crows will frequently attack their predators when they get the chance, ganging up on them in big groups causing the predator to fly away. This is called 'mobbing' (매, 독수리, 올빼미는 까마귀와 까마귀와 그 새끼보다 앞서 있습니다. 그러나 까마귀는 기회가 있을 때 종종 포식자를 공격하여 큰 무리를 지어 날아갑니다. 이것을 '모빙'이라고 합니다.
How the hell does an osprey lose to a raven? Osprey have beaks and talons like hooks specifically for attacking. The raven doesn’t have any of that
It certainly does - Google raven for a close up view, and check out that beak! Ospreys aren’t designed for close up fighting - they’re fish eaters with talons for gripping, not fighting live prey like birds, small mammals and reptiles. Normally the female would have been able to see off the raven by driving it away but must have been injured in the forest flying through the trees and then fallen to the ground unable to fly. And that’s where the raven was able to attack her, and ultimately the fox was able to get her.
1:13:41 Me after a stressful day
i saw the fox at the end but still don't see the connection to the title of the video, did i miss something? I thought the raven knocked a chic out and the fox got it, maybe i'm missing something
The full explanation (including actions of the fox) is contained in the 25/7/2021 statement above.
You can hear that poor chick who got wrecked gurgling when it's breathing on it's back, even while it's farther fights the raven off! Raven must have torn it's throat up.
Lol that's hilarious
@@stellviahohenheim That's a weird way of saying you were never good at anything in your life and everyone you know hates you.
@@stellviahohenheim alright, psycho.
@@stellviahohenheim how is that fucking hilarious?
It attacked the baby's in the beak first.
Dude just showed up and fucked up an entire bloodline
I love birds, but I don't feel sorry for none of them when they get wrecked because they all do each other wrong around the clock its the wild wild west.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'do each other wrong'. In nature some species are predators and other species are prey, and many are both depending on their size and speed and that of their opponent's. It's all relative.
What is the point of your dumb idiot comment?
you're lying. fox should be locked up, it's a nonce. have reported it to RSPCA. you need to stap ur weighs.
Amazing
Ay dios porque nadie comenta en español para saber en que quedó todo como están los polluelos y su mamá 😢🥺
2 de los 3 hijos fueron reubicafos, uno falleció y fue el que recibió menores heridas, la mamá falleció también :c
(Comment translated from Spanish) Oh god because no one comments in Spanish to know how everything was like the chicks and their mother 😢🥺
Answer: Utilizo el traductor de Google, es fácil de usar y muy útil cuando las personas comentan en otros idiomas. La madre Alma fue asesinada con uno de sus polluelos, los otros dos polluelos fueron llevados a un nuevo nido, pero uno murió; la otra está bien y ha encontrado sus alas y está volando con fuerza.
Answer translated (I use google translate, it's easy to use and very helpful when people comment in other languages. The mother Alma was killed with one of her chicks, the other two chicks were taken to a new nest but one died - the other one is doing well and has fledged and is flying strongly.)
@@angelobrbr Gracias
@@GeemeffGeemeff no problem, i translated this with Rain in My eyes 😢
@@GeemeffGeemeff "ah encontrado sus alas" , las habia perdido? :v
WhAt was the brown animal doing? I don’t understand
Demasiado triste y por qué no estaba la pareja para protegerlos 😔🙏🏻
(google translate Spanish) Too sad and why wasn't the couple to protect them?
Answer: Respuesta: Los padres se esforzaron mucho en protegerlos, ¡la madre fue asesinada y el padre evitó que el cuervo se llevara a sus polluelos del nido!
(Answer:The parents tried very hard to protect them - the mother was killed , and the father prevented the raven from taking his chicks away from the nest!)
Si 😔 vi los videos que subiste y me di cuenta de la tragedia y con verle el pico al cuervo. Son tan destructivos y son una plaga 😣
En 🇺🇸 lo sufren las 🦅
Lo positivo que fueron rescatados❗️
El nido este dónde está⁉️
@@daniellebg4617 No sabemos dónde está el nido y no tiene cámara de nido.
(Question translated from Spanish):Yes 😔 I saw the videos you uploaded and I realized the tragedy and seeing the raven's beak. They are so destructive and they are a plague 😣
In 🇺🇸 it is suffered by 🦅 The positive that they were rescued❗️The nest is where it is⁉️
(Answer translated) We don't know where the nest is and it doesn't have a nest cam
Por que? que pregunta tan tonta, obvio no todo el tiempo puede estar la pareja, uno tiene que cazar mientras el otro cuida. las cazerias pueden durar desde horas a dias dependiendo el territorio que tiene que avarcar volando y cazando. Tambien recuerda que no todas las cazerias suelen ser exitosas por lo cual puede llevar tiempo. Es obvio y desafortunadamente que en ese momento del ataque no estaba la pareja.
de seguro es el tipo de persona que dice " y por que el que graba no ayuda" jajaajaj
How getting on latest news? Two kids and daddy?
Dad Ossi has a new mate this year, you can check his progress on the Saekunt website, the link's in the video description. Of the two surviving chicks, they were taken to an active nest and fostered by the resident pair. Sadly one died but the other went on to fledge and migrate.
I’m so sorry. They were such a pretty family. Horrible tragedy. This raven was possessed. It wasn’t feeding babies or it would have taken an Osprey back to its nest. It was just torturing the Osprey. I’ve seen Raven raid nest and eat eggs. But this bird was demonic. Please let us know if the injured bird lives. I wish it could have been taken to a wildlife rehab. ❤️🙏🏻
The raven was just acting normally, it did appear to want to eat and started plucking one chick before finding a piece of fish on the nest and taking that away instead. It's not correct to use words like 'demonic' and 'possessed' to wildlife, nature does not follow human values.
And remember why are these beautiful birds at the edge of extinction? Because of Ravens ? No because of our own greedy species, killing for fun and trophies not only for survival.
@@karinfiachanma605 I take your point about shooting and killing wildlife for barbaric so-called 'sport', but happy to say Ospreys are becoming a bit of a conservation success - still a way to go, but they're protected in most countries.
Believe it or not, there's a small exclusive group of animals that have the mental capacity to act on Malice "anger, revenge, intent to harm" and Ravens make that list. Ravens can be evil, but im sure it's rare.
@@isrealdiaz3899 Humans must be number one on that list!
Dumb question here but do ospreys build nests on ground ? How did a fox manage to.....
No, they always nest on something high up like a tree top or utility pole. Comment from @Robert Lutece below expalins how she came to be on the ground, see also my video description for more details.
@@RobertLutece909 ✔
to be fair they killed other animals too, she fed her young with meat at the beginning
When will we get an update on the 2 remaining chicks that were placed in another nest??????
I don't know - the Osprey project management will decide when the time is right to obtain and release any info about the relocated chicks. After the stress on the chicks from the attack and subsequent relocation, it may be a long time before they disturb them again as the new nest doesn't have a camera.
Update received 25/7, see pinned comment.
I love ravens.I'm glad he got some food
Wow ravens are MEAN it just came and mortally wounded them, didn’t kill them or eat them
Damn son that was compelling AF Literal movie tier
That laugh is haunting.