The most important game in the series (Final Fantasy II / FF2 Retrospective)

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  • Final Fantasy 2 (aka FF2 or FF2j) is widely regarded as the worst Final Fantasy game. In this retrospective video essay, I’ll explain why I believe Final Fantasy 2, in spite of all its flaws, is actually the most important game in the series.
    PS. Welcome to my new channel! This video was originally posted on my old channel on June 21st, 2021. It’s reposted here because I’m starting a new channel dedicated to this type of content. I also took the opportunity to make some small updates to the video while I was at it.
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    🎦 My other Final Fantasy retrospectives:
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    01:16 The gameplay loop
    04:51 The story
    08:10 The companions
    12:10 Ambition
    16:15 Progression system
    21:05 Hidden pitfalls
    23:38 In practice
    29:38 Player behavior
    34:09 Creation of “Final Fantasy”
    36:57 Courage
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  • @AltercateTV
    @AltercateTV  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Welcome to my new channel! This video was originally posted on my old channel on 2021-06-21.
    I had a TON of stuff to say about this game, and I ended up having to cut a LOT to keep the video at a “reasonable” length. The first draft would have been THREE HOURS long, and no one’s going to listen to my nonsense for that long. 😂
    Thanks for watching, and I hope you enjoy the video. If you do, I’d be super grateful if you could give the video a like and write a quick comment, as it really helps the video reach more people. 👍 And if you want to help a tiny channel grow, consider subscribing! ✅🙏

    • @liefhebber6277
      @liefhebber6277 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hey man I'd listen to your nonsense for that long :) And seems like you relented with the DQ video. Great videos btw! Big fan now.

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@liefhebber6277Thank you so much for this very nice comment! It's super motivating to hear that :)

  • @morioh6623
    @morioh6623 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another great video, the research you put into these videos really shows. Not sure if youre trying to make this a job or a hobby but if you keep on keeping on you'll definitely blow up.

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! It’s just a hobby for now but it means a lot to me to hear you say that :)

  • @williamishee9533
    @williamishee9533 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey! I just wanted to take a moment to thank you again for this video. The first time I played this game, I absolutely hated it. I barely got through it, but I was playing it on the iPad. I recently purchased a bundle for my PlayStation 5 that includes all of the Pixel Remasters, and I genuinely enjoyed two a lot more this time. Your insight an affirmation of this game help me appreciate it in a way I hadn’t before. Thanks again so much for your hard work and dedication!

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks William! That's awesome to hear. And thanks once again for all the encouragement you give me! :) Are you doing a playthrough of all six Pixel Remasters right now?

    • @williamishee9533
      @williamishee9533 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AltercateTV Yepp! I just finished 100% on 1 and 2. Working on 3 now!

  • @williamishee9533
    @williamishee9533 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Listened to this one again. I have so much more appreciation for this game now. Playing the remaster was an incredible experience.

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s awesome! I’m really happy the video can help bring some appreciation for what this game meant for the series :)

  • @g.u.959
    @g.u.959 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Getting through this game both on GBA and PS1 was like my own Final Fantasy rite of passage. It sucked in a lot of places and really wasn’t fun, but it was a fascinating look into where design works and where it doesn’t. I’m really curious to see how III fares as I prepare to start it!
    And my inevitable PS1 replay because they had the genius idea to lock “normal” difficultly behind finishing the first playthrough :’)

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have fun with FFIII! :)

    • @cj5273
      @cj5273 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      FF3 is sooooo much better. I loved that game and I'm a bit jealous you get to try it for the first time

  • @Prophecyx01
    @Prophecyx01 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What the heck? HOW does this not have more views??

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know, right?! Lol, seriously though, thanks for your kind words 😀

  • @ThaetusZain
    @ThaetusZain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Algorythm comment!
    Guy is always a white mage/monk combo in my eyes. Can't play him any other way.

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! 😍 It’s cool how the free-form nature of the game gives people a sense of ownership of their own versions of the characters! To me, the idea of Guy as a white mage seems super strange since I played him as a straight up sword fighter!

    • @ThaetusZain
      @ThaetusZain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AltercateTV lol yeah, I guess it's cause he comes off as a big softie. That kinda fits both with the two fisted healer archtype I think.

  • @fabiogreco1815
    @fabiogreco1815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bro your videos are so cool and fun to watch thank you! Keep up with the good work you will gorw, as I found you others will!

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, thank you so much! That means a lot to me 😍

  • @dm7626
    @dm7626 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a really good video - I came here after watching videos on your old channel and finding out you have a new one.

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much! More coming :)

  • @ssjwill4
    @ssjwill4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I appreciated your comments regarding the series always looking to innovate and take risk which is why I love the series so much. I was always looking forward to a new experience with the series and still do. As much as I enjoyed the FFVII remake and rebirth games I was still very much looking forward to FFXVI and what it would bring to the table that I hadn't experienced before. FFII had issues, but was still a worthwhile outing as a fan of the series. I played some of it on Final Fantasy Origin back on PlayStation but just finished it last year for the first time on Steam for the Pixel Remaster version and had a blast beating the game and getting all the achievements. I hope Final Fantasy continues to look at new ways to innovate and bring fresh ideas to the JRPG genre of video games. Here's looking forward to FFXVII!

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Definitely! Regardless of how I feel about each new entry, I hope they never lose the will to try new things each time. :)

  • @alaharon1233
    @alaharon1233 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So many videos on ff2 nes, but the gba/psp version really did fix everything but the documentation thing (and the annoying empty high encounter rooms thing you didn't mention). It's the definitive version of the game

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True! The game gets really enjoyable to play when the worst issues from the original are fixed. :)

  • @camilocalderon2198
    @camilocalderon2198 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful video!
    Thank you so much!
    Never thought about that before, but you're right... In some sense this is the truly first Final Fantasy, the one that settled its poetics and the attitude for innovation and trying something new in each entry.

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video :)

  • @queenofdaggerstarot3060
    @queenofdaggerstarot3060 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your voice is so calming. I've been binging your final fantasy videos.

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! That's very encouraging to hear :)

  • @comradecid
    @comradecid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank you so much for this review, most especially with regard to the talent progression system... as an active designer/developer, it has been incredibly helpful and insightful.

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s awesome! Glad I could help :)

  • @patrickhennessee3987
    @patrickhennessee3987 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These are the best Final Fantasy retrospectives I’ve ever seen even including the one Square made several years back. Well done!

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, thank you so much for saying that! My FF6 retro will be up tonight, just finished it. :)

    • @patrickhennessee3987
      @patrickhennessee3987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AltercateTV can’t wait to watch it!

  • @SilortheBlade
    @SilortheBlade หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I recall enjoying this game far more than I expected, while I couldn't even make myself finished FFIII (mainly due to the dumb final dungeon). I didn't know about the stats going down though, I played the PSP version ages ago. Maybe that aspect was changed as I was able to make a viable mage/archer. I think. It's been a while.

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sharing! Yep, the PSP version fixed pretty much every issue I outlined here. I really enjoyed that version!

  • @Morgil27
    @Morgil27 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    While the gameplay may suck, I feel the game still has a really good story. I first played it on GBA, and was initially taken quite aback by just how many playable characters kept dying. That being said, the level up system still isn't very good. I recently played it again via the pixel remaster release, and i basically just cranked all the optional exp multipiers up to max just to try and make the game as least painful as possible.

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, the system has a ton of potential but the way it was implemented isn't all that fun. The story was really good for its time, though!

  • @cj5273
    @cj5273 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Are the flaws in the battle mechanics fixed in the pixel remaster?

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's still a weird system with a lot of rough spots, but all of the truly annoying things about the original have been fixed. The Pixel Remaster is a much more enjoyable version of the game imo.

  • @jba2048
    @jba2048 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    FF fans get really salty about my opinions of the series. I LOVED FF2. Meanwhile the worst FF game on my list is FF8.

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing! I personally *love* FF8, but it's awesome that everyone gets to have their own favorites in the series :)

    • @Morgil27
      @Morgil27 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're not alone. I also can't stand 8. I think it's pure garbage, in both gameplay and story. As for FF2, I'm not a fan of the weird level up system, but I LOVE the game's plot and characters.
      Oh, and I also tend to make a lot of enemies when I mention I don't like FF10, either.

  • @cr-nd8qh
    @cr-nd8qh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good video man.

    • @AltercateTV
      @AltercateTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! :)