Is two better than one? Simply higher tooth ratchets have more contact points. Like a 40 tooth ratchet has one contact point, Snap-On actually has 7 points of contact. The teeth on the ratchet don't break, but the actual mechanism or "contact points" do. Snap-On has high quality steel so they can use less steel to make a stronger ratchet than something like more steel because they have to substitute for the quality of the metal. Just something to put into consideration.
its true lower teeth count ones have thicker deeper meatier teeth and can take more torque before stripping out, its the same problem with fine thread bolts, they may make more clamping force but a grade 8 fine thread bolt will strip out from over torque easier than a grade 8 course will, very true metal strength is most of it but i bet snap on as retardedly overpriced as it is as still better metal than the duralast harbor freight bargain bin ratchet, but because it has less but stronger teeth it holds more weight, contact points dont mean anything, the more contact points the more contact points to strip out, if it were just one giant dog that cam out an engaged with a wheel with 10 huge teeth on it you would likely snap the square end off it or the handle before you broke the ratchet mechanism, the high teeth ones are a luxury item, so you can move the ratchet back and forth an inch and it will still ratchet and it will ratchet way easier, so less chance you get one of those bolts that you cant un do with your hand and you put the ratchet on it and it walks the bolt back and forth and also you have an old craftsman set like me the ratchet goes like 3 inches before it clicks 1 time, sturdy and strong, yes, annoying, oh yea, but id rather have a strong annoying ratchet than a pussy fancy ratchet especially if its a snap on, only snap on tools i have are a big crescent wrench and i got it for free when it was supposedly 300 bucks new, its nice and has almost no play at all but i have an actual crescent brand one the same size and it performs better and has only slightly more play and likely only costed about 40 bucks if that (got both of em for free on the same day)
The Carlyle ratchet did hold up better. The teeth didn't go, and when it did break he was using a cheater bar. I would definitely save the extra $200 on a Carlyle and buy some other tools for the price of that one snap-on. Great video
This test you performed on this Snap-On ratchet is pretty impressive, if you ask me. To me it passed the test, for that I would never use mine in this manner. It took a great effort from you & your poundage before it gave way. This is why we own Breaker Bars. A courser tooth ratchet should withstand more abuse.
Hmm. I have to wonder, it seemed to break right after you twirled the direction change, not before that. Did you maybe not have it properly engaged when you applied the force on it? Normally I would make sure all the pawls are fully engaged before using it by allowing it to ratchet backwards a bit before heaving off on it.
Love your videos bro, each one has helped steer me towards/away from certain products. Any chance of doing a torture test on a Gearwrench ratchet? Either the 120xp or 84 tooth to be precise? I have heard nothing but great things about them and i was wondering if they hold true to whats said. Either way, thanks for the informative videos
i did the same thing a while back, tool man changed it out in a few minutes, still sucks that it broke while removing a brake caliper... i use this for oil changes mostly now.
The 32 teeth dura last is going to hold longer due to the tooth count, not surprised what's so ever! But working on a car where you are not gonna be standing on the ratchet to break a bolt loose which ratchet would you have?
Hey Roman! have you ever heard of "Genius tools"? I find it hard to find information on them and I would like to see you torture test one! I cannot afford tools like snap on or mac (yet) so I have been mainly using Stanley Professional Grade tools and i am wondering how the genius will compare? thanks!
damn the Carlyle took way more I'd like to see you test the SK Roto ratchets which are the original of which all others are copied from the model numbers are 3870 and 48375 I own both and the 3870 has taken off lug nuts I could get off with a 4 way and suspension bolts and other I haven't tried to use it hard yet but is an SK tuff one design from facom and is rare took me a year to find and both are no longer made but they do have rebuild kits I guarantee they surpass the Carlyle and most definitely the snap on that was just sad no way I'd buy one of those turds.
I'm sure that it broke there by design I would much rather have the ratcheting mechanism break then some other part of the ratchet because I can always just replace the guts and compared to what happened to the Carlyle same style ratchet I prefer what happened to the snap on .......I have one of these ratchets and I couldn't be happier with it
Interesting video. Thanks for posting. Personally, I prefer the lower tooth ratchets. I have yet to strip one of them. Also, the old Snap-On ratchets seem to be more durable.
Instead of using fine tooth why don't you use corse gears and see the difference and all you got to do is take it to the snap on dealer and he will replace it.
Hey man I started making videos thanks to your channel I really appreciate the work you put in to do this as I now see, mine are nowhere near your level and I haven't even got into editing Steven.
I just don't think that those Roto 100 -tooth ratchets are very strong no matter who makes them. the Carlyle is probably every bit as good. I have the Matco version and it would probably break the same way.
i just switch over to them and i love.i haven't broken them yet. if have tough bolt or nut i use air or breaker bar anyway.i would like to know how much they can take.
So wait a minute...... the Carlyle survived more then this? I understand a USA made product costs more, but if a Taiwanese product that costs 1/3 the price is better built Snap-On isn't getting my money.
This proves nothing at all. You're using a fine tooth 3/8 ratchet. Intentionally trying to break it. Do you know how much torque you're putting on it? You're a pretty big guy giving it your all. Thats what 1/2 in is for. You wouldnt haul a 2 car trailer with a chevy cavalier would ya?
Is this serious? Do you understand the trade off made for a finer tooth ratchet? It’s common sense stuff really…. Idk, maybe give a little thought into things before expecting people to follow your video. You did not provide any amount of value here. In fact, anyone like myself who had to comment to explain this to you, we are the ones who have provided value. You should follow us actually lol
It did worse than the harbor freight at least you had to use a cheater bar on that one. That’s a terrible way to do a tool test. I’m sorry your but hurt because you’ve broken your tools because you don’t know what tool for what job. Lol
All the more reason to buy harbor freight. Used to buy tools off the trucks, then my snap on guy got all pissy about warranty and saying if I don't spend atleast a grand a month on his truck that I'm not worth his time. I found being in a line of work where I use hand tools every day - it's about when, not if the tool will break. So having two or three ratchets, plus every socket you would need for the price of one snap on ratchet is way better - especially when one of your tools breaks.
Harbor Freight is WAAAYY cheaper, is professional grade AND the store is open every day of the week. That Snapon ratchet will take at least a week for a replacement IF your truck guy doesn't have one on his truck. The best part about Harbor Freight ratchets and other tools is immediate replacement without any questions. And, they're cheap enough to buy two at a time so you have a backup on hand if one breaks. I'd NEVER buy a Snapon ratchet! 😂😂😂
If you don't have the proper tool to do the job don't risk your fingers this video is not educational and only take you nowhere use a bigger ratchet for god sakes! So many tricks out there to loose a bolt without compromising fingers and get the the job done .
Snap-On is nothing more than overpriced metal for fanboys to brag about. Nothing special about Snap-On. Their strongest selling point was the tool truck and now we have um.........Amazon Prime. Just like the milk man, the tool truck is outdated.
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You have to admit that no matter what brand ratchet you destroy during this test, this is by no means the intended use for a ratchet..
I bet ratchets with lower teeth count have a stronger ratcheting mechanism because each tooth is bigger.
yea thats correct
I dont know why some wont agree...
Is two better than one? Simply higher tooth ratchets have more contact points. Like a 40 tooth ratchet has one contact point, Snap-On actually has 7 points of contact. The teeth on the ratchet don't break, but the actual mechanism or "contact points" do. Snap-On has high quality steel so they can use less steel to make a stronger ratchet than something like more steel because they have to substitute for the quality of the metal. Just something to put into consideration.
its true lower teeth count ones have thicker deeper meatier teeth and can take more torque before stripping out, its the same problem with fine thread bolts, they may make more clamping force but a grade 8 fine thread bolt will strip out from over torque easier than a grade 8 course will, very true metal strength is most of it but i bet snap on as retardedly overpriced as it is as still better metal than the duralast harbor freight bargain bin ratchet, but because it has less but stronger teeth it holds more weight, contact points dont mean anything, the more contact points the more contact points to strip out, if it were just one giant dog that cam out an engaged with a wheel with 10 huge teeth on it you would likely snap the square end off it or the handle before you broke the ratchet mechanism, the high teeth ones are a luxury item, so you can move the ratchet back and forth an inch and it will still ratchet and it will ratchet way easier, so less chance you get one of those bolts that you cant un do with your hand and you put the ratchet on it and it walks the bolt back and forth and also you have an old craftsman set like me the ratchet goes like 3 inches before it clicks 1 time, sturdy and strong, yes, annoying, oh yea, but id rather have a strong annoying ratchet than a pussy fancy ratchet especially if its a snap on, only snap on tools i have are a big crescent wrench and i got it for free when it was supposedly 300 bucks new, its nice and has almost no play at all but i have an actual crescent brand one the same size and it performs better and has only slightly more play and likely only costed about 40 bucks if that (got both of em for free on the same day)
Spent 110 dollars on a Cornwall rarchet and broke in a month. I bought a pittsburgh pro and well it still holding up 2 years later. Lol
The Carlyle ratchet did hold up better. The teeth didn't go, and when it did break he was using a cheater bar. I would definitely save the extra $200 on a Carlyle and buy some other tools for the price of that one snap-on. Great video
You have to tell the Snap On guy that it broke the first time you used it.
try fixing something
damn ratchet is giving you a workout lol
break the snap on dual 80 and I'll be very impressed
I heard some serious grunting!!
This test you performed on this Snap-On ratchet is pretty impressive, if you ask me. To me it passed the test, for that I would never use mine in this manner. It took a great effort from you & your poundage before it gave way. This is why we own Breaker Bars. A courser tooth ratchet should withstand more abuse.
I've used the hell out of mine and have yet to break it. But It's fun to watch you do it. You are a level III destroyer
I could not break this without abusing it.
Good thing there is a rebuild kit.
Hmm. I have to wonder, it seemed to break right after you twirled the direction change, not before that.
Did you maybe not have it properly engaged when you applied the force on it? Normally I would make sure all the pawls are fully engaged before using it by allowing it to ratchet backwards a bit before heaving off on it.
you should torture test the gear wrench 120xp ratchets
Damn. That's a tight bolt. Try some WD-40? Maybe a little heat?
Love your videos bro, each one has helped steer me towards/away from certain products. Any chance of doing a torture test on a Gearwrench ratchet? Either the 120xp or 84 tooth to be precise? I have heard nothing but great things about them and i was wondering if they hold true to whats said. Either way, thanks for the informative videos
I'll get a 120xp, give it time.
Sounds good, thanks man.
i did the same thing a while back, tool man changed it out in a few minutes, still sucks that it broke while removing a brake caliper... i use this for oil changes mostly now.
Screw what anyone says, go warranty that shit.
I love that Ratchet. I'm ok with seeing it not die. Ha.
The 32 teeth dura last is going to hold longer due to the tooth count, not surprised what's so ever! But working on a car where you are not gonna be standing on the ratchet to break a bolt loose which ratchet would you have?
I prefer the Snap On.
A Snap-On dealer in one video said the finer teeth ratchets are stronger than the course teeth.
Hey Roman! have you ever heard of "Genius tools"? I find it hard to find information on them and I would like to see you torture test one! I cannot afford tools like snap on or mac (yet) so I have been mainly using Stanley Professional Grade tools and i am wondering how the genius will compare? thanks!
Can’t believe the welded on screw didn’t come loose
You laid into it pretty darn good, not surprising it went lol
Well isn't it clear the finer the teeth count goes up, the faster they fail ?
Do you think you'll try a tekton?
but thanks for the video, I'm trying to decide between the F80 and FN100.
You'll probably get a bunch of but hurt snap on guys saying you staged the test
do a 1/2 snap on please
damn the Carlyle took way more I'd like to see you test the SK Roto ratchets which are the original of which all others are copied from the model numbers are 3870 and 48375 I own both and the 3870 has taken off lug nuts I could get off with a 4 way and suspension bolts and other I haven't tried to use it hard yet but is an SK tuff one design from facom and is rare took me a year to find and both are no longer made but they do have rebuild kits I guarantee they surpass the Carlyle and most definitely the snap on that was just sad no way I'd buy one of those turds.
I'm sure that it broke there by design I would much rather have the ratcheting mechanism break then some other part of the ratchet because I can always just replace the guts and compared to what happened to the Carlyle same style ratchet I prefer what happened to the snap on .......I have one of these ratchets and I couldn't be happier with it
is it 1\2" or 3\8 ?
That snap on is an awesome ratchet but goes to show they just like cheaper ratchets can and do break with enough force.
Interesting video. Thanks for posting. Personally, I prefer the lower tooth ratchets. I have yet to strip one of them. Also, the old Snap-On ratchets seem to be more durable.
im surprised the weld held the bolt and ratchet broke hmmm give me old snap-on ratchet anyday..
I still like it. Fine tooth lose strength.
I think the older snap ons are the best.
ze germans make proper tools.
proto pear head ratchet and a sk please sir
A swivel head regardless of the manufacturer isn't made for that much pressure.
That's fixable though right?? I mean the actual ratchet didn't brake, sounds like it's just the gears
Totally fixable ..
it is fixable, the snap on dealer will just replace the guts
Wait. It costs you if it breaks? I thought Snap On had a decent warranty.
First Last they do they will replace it for free
Take that back to snappy and get money back
you should do a stanley tool
Waste of a good tool there...
Instead of using fine tooth why don't you use corse gears and see the difference and all you got to do is take it to the snap on dealer and he will replace it.
Well fuck man I had to turn it down so everyone doesn't think I'm watching gay porn on my shit break.
Hey man I started making videos thanks to your channel I really appreciate the work you put in to do this as I now see, mine are nowhere near your level and I haven't even got into editing
Steven.
I'll check it out. I don't edit that much either.
not ur fault! i was surprised! i thought it was gonna give u more trouble than that!
Time to bust out the pipe and lay into some 1/2 ratchets some 3/8 breaker bars would be cool too
I just don't think that those Roto 100 -tooth ratchets are very strong no matter who makes them. the Carlyle is probably every bit as good. I have the Matco version and it would probably break the same way.
Well its not too surprising a 32 teeth ratchet is stronger. That one is more for confined spaces.
not putting a whole lot of stock in this video.
do the gear wrench 120xp ratchet
i just switch over to them and i love.i haven't broken them yet. if have tough bolt or nut i use air or breaker bar anyway.i would like to know how much they can take.
So wait a minute...... the Carlyle survived more then this? I understand a USA made product costs more, but if a Taiwanese product that costs 1/3 the price is better built Snap-On isn't getting my money.
it doesn't matter how you look at it 300 dollars for 10 sockets some ones getting rich. look at snap on stock they make there stock holders happy.
you should do a vintage snapon, compare them.
Ever hear of a 1/2" drive ratchet ?
I need a bigger table.
where your pipe
This proves nothing at all. You're using a fine tooth 3/8 ratchet. Intentionally trying to break it. Do you know how much torque you're putting on it? You're a pretty big guy giving it your all. Thats what 1/2 in is for. You wouldnt haul a 2 car trailer with a chevy cavalier would ya?
Just shows where it breaks. It is a good ratchet, others wouldn't have done any better.
Is this serious? Do you understand the trade off made for a finer tooth ratchet? It’s common sense stuff really…. Idk, maybe give a little thought into things before expecting people to follow your video. You did not provide any amount of value here. In fact, anyone like myself who had to comment to explain this to you, we are the ones who have provided value. You should follow us actually lol
It did worse than the harbor freight at least you had to use a cheater bar on that one. That’s a terrible way to do a tool test. I’m sorry your but hurt because you’ve broken your tools because you don’t know what tool for what job. Lol
All the more reason to buy harbor freight. Used to buy tools off the trucks, then my snap on guy got all pissy about warranty and saying if I don't spend atleast a grand a month on his truck that I'm not worth his time. I found being in a line of work where I use hand tools every day - it's about when, not if the tool will break. So having two or three ratchets, plus every socket you would need for the price of one snap on ratchet is way better - especially when one of your tools breaks.
Harbor Freight is WAAAYY cheaper, is professional grade AND the store is open every day of the week. That Snapon ratchet will take at least a week for a replacement IF your truck guy doesn't have one on his truck. The best part about Harbor Freight ratchets and other tools is immediate replacement without any questions. And, they're cheap enough to buy two at a time so you have a backup on hand if one breaks.
I'd NEVER buy a Snapon ratchet! 😂😂😂
Except by doing that you deliberately are funding the Chinese economy and killing the West even faster.
The only reason I pay that much is because they are US made.
@@RomanAutomotive I'm Chinese and I pay for my snap on tools bc I love America :) USA quality is much better
If you don't have the proper tool to do the job don't risk your fingers this video is not educational and only take you nowhere use a bigger ratchet for god sakes! So many tricks out there to loose a bolt without compromising fingers and get the the job done .
lol just torch it off and relax i don't think they paying you good where you at right now
Snap-On is nothing more than overpriced metal for fanboys to brag about. Nothing special about Snap-On. Their strongest selling point was the tool truck and now we have um.........Amazon Prime. Just like the milk man, the tool truck is outdated.