“Get the police involved “? Is she talking about the same police who wouldn’t deal with Islamic grooming gangs because they were afraid of being called racist?
Yes, those police that allowed BLM to riot in London and ran away, yet arrested protesters of lockdown for turning up in London, our proud two tier policing at it's finest.
The police have no interest in enforcing the law or standing up for the British people . The Covid pandemic proved they are not fit for purpose and they,re lack of action here proves that point . A disgrace to this country just like the Goverment .
It's not just sad to see such things in Britain, it is outrageous to see such things. Those protesting chose to come to this country. Were they totally unaware of the values here that they might find offensive and therefore Britain should not have been their destination of choice. Even more outrageous is the fact that our politicians not only do not speak out against these immigrants but often are in full support of the actions that they take.
It isn’t the UK anymore we have no rights to are own country. It’s disgusting what is happening and soon as anyone stands up and says something your a racist. It’s are country and we run by foreigners.
This is a must-watch movie. Everyone must watch this Movie. This is Islamic Shia Movie. Much respect towards Non Muslims for showing love and respect towards Prophet Muhammad and his Daughter Hazrat Fatima. I would like to invite everyone to learn more about Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali and Ahlulbait. The truth lies with Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali. 😎 My advice to Non Muslims is Not to fall into the Propaganda of the deviants who claim to Muslims but are far from Islam such as the Sunnis followers of Abu Bakr, Umar ,Usman and Abu Bakr's daughter Ayesha and Umar's son Obaidullah and Usman's cousin Muawiya who fought against Islam against Prophet Mohammad's successor Hazrat Ali in Battle of Camel ( Jang E Jamal ) and Battle of Siffin ( Jang E Siffin ). These deviants always try to spread their propaganda against Islam this is Shia Islamic Movie about the Daughter of Prophet Mohammad. This film exposes Falsehood of Sunni Religion of Abu Bakr and Umar with Historical Facts. The followers of Abu Bakr and Umar can try to spread Propaganda and lies but they can't Hide and Cover Facts and History. Refrence ( 1. Sahih Muslim - 288a ( Book of Purification ) 2. Sahih Muslim - 320 ( Book of Menstruation ) 3. Sunnan ibn Majah - 1944 ( Chapter of Marriage ) 4. Sunnan Abi Dawood - Hadees - 2061 ( Marriage) 5. Sahih Muslim - 290 ( Book of Purification ). 6. Sahih Bukhari - 7100 ( Afflictions & End of World ) 7. Sahih Bukhari - 4915 ( Book 65 ) 8. Sahih Bukhari - 325 ( Book 54 - Volume - 4 ). Everyone can check the references and see for themselves the falsehood of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Truth of Islam. The Controversy about this Film also shows the Weakness of Western Countries as Years of Western Support for Sunni Dictators and Sunni Regimes and Sunni Tyrants has allowed Sunnis to establish Street Power and Influence in their countries which is finally coming to bite them hard as Sunnis are forcing the west to accept their views and imposing their backward ideology on entire countries. This Situation was long predicted and expected by Geopolitical Experts who have studied History and know the long and Bloody History of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar. Europeans are doomed as Society unless they act immediately against Extremist Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar who are hell bent on Violence and Export of Terrorism.
An interesting conversation between a non Muslim 'Tom' and an open-minded Sunni Muslim 'Khalid' about the movie "The Lady of Heaven", and the differences between Shiia and Sunni Muslims. Tom: Thank you for the video. As an outsider to Islam I didn't follow all the references but found it interesting none the less. I was wondering if you could explain to me why it matters whether Umar did this thing or not? I would go research myself but it seems like such a big topic it's hard to know whether to start. Thank you in advance and peace be with you. Tom Khalid: Hi Tom, As a Sunni person, I can tell you that the part where Umar attacked Fatima and caused her a miscarriage is a disputable story and I personally discard it. But, as you saw in the video, Umar's threat to burn the house down on Ali and his companion is accepted by both Sunni and Shia. You asked why it matters whether Umar did this or not. The answer is that even in our books (Sunni), the prophet clearly appointed Ali as his successor as you saw in the Ghadeer Khumm incident. Therefore, as companion of the prophet who believes in him, why does he go against the prophet's and God's wishes and go for forcing others to pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr? To make the point clearer, allow me to give an analogy from Game of Thrones. What happened is like Robert Baratheon's letter where he clearly appointed Ned Stark after him, but Jeoffrey completely usurped the throne and ignored that letter. The only difference is that Jeoffrey killed Ned Stark while Omar did not kill Ali. What I am trying to say here is that Ali should've been the one who ruled after the prophet (at least according to Ghadeer Khumm's sermon which even Sunni muslim scholars cannot deny). Tom: thank you so much for taking the time to write that long reply it is helpful and I understand better now where the tension comes from. Would I be right in thinking that because of this split that the tension comes because one group does not believe the legitimacy of the other as true followers of the prophet? Obviously it's a very broad question but how deep does the sentiment around the disputed succession go, are Sunnis/Shia considered proper/actually Muslims at all by the other group? Also do you think this film is proving controversial to some because it's showing one group's story, and thus the other group are angry about it as they do not believe that story to be true? Khalid: You are very welcome Tom! I am glad to know my answer helped. With regards to your question, this is not the only reason behind the tension between Sunni and Shiia groups. If you ask me to give you the most important reasons, I'd list them as the following: 🔴Shiia don't accept Abu Bakr's rule after the prophet, and I personally agree because as a religious person, it makes no sense to think that God and his prophet left a mess behind to be handled by power-hungry individuals. Id Muslims followed the prophet's orders and let Ali rule, the Muslim world would've been a much better place because he was the most reasonable and wisest person alive after the prophet. Not doing this led to all these tensions and crimes. 🔴Sunni Muslims disagree with Shiaa because Shiia Muslims accuse Ayesha (Abu Bakr's daughter and wife of the prophet) of poisoning the prophet, hence killing him. If you ask me, I'd say I cannot say this really happened, although in Sunni scholars' books like Al-Bukhari. there is an authentic hadith which narrates that when the prophet was sick (prior to his death), Ayesha and Hafsa (Umar's daughter) were forcing the prophet to drink medicine despite the prophet's insistence NOT to give him medicine (I wish I could remember the hadith's number, because to me it really gave me a weird suspicion about Ayesha, although I am Sunni). 🔴Both Sunni and Shiia books mention that Ayesha used to treat the prophet disrespectfully. There are at least 4 different incidents mentioned in Sahih Al-Bukhari, and I find this very disturbing. 🔴Some far-right Shiia believe that Ayesha cheated on the prophet, and this is something that Sunni Muslim take great offense at (The vast majority of Shiia Muslims do not go this far, but they do accuse her of hypocrisy and disrespect of the prophet). 🔴As you might have seen in the movie, some of the prophet's companions (even Umar and Abu Bakr are suspected to be among them) made an attempt at his life and both groups' books do talk about this serious matter. But Sunni Muslims intentionally avoid talking about this because they know that this will surely lead to exposing these companions; companions who are highly revered by Sunni Muslims. I personally never heard of the incident in whole life until I reached the age of 28 and I only heard about it through DulFiqar's channel. 🔴Shiia accuse Abu Bakr of confiscating lady Fatima's garden of Fadaq (which the prophet left her after his death), and to be honest, Sunni books do mention this in authentic hadiths, and because of this, it's highly sensitive to bring this up to Sunni Muslims because they know it is true, but sadly Sunnis barely read their books and they'd just immediately attack you by accusing you of being kaffir or Shiia, etc. 🔴 There are many Sunni Muslims who deem Shiia Muslims as infidels and therefore not muslims and even worthy of being killed, and I find this very disgusting and extremist because Shiia muslims practice the religion just like us and they actually are better muslims than us in many respects. I never saw a Shiia Muslim detonating himself/herself or committing any violence against Sunni muslims or any non-muslim for that matter. I met Shiia muslims who had no issue talking to me, but I rarely saw a Sunni muslim having a conversation with a Shiia muslim because they see them as a threat. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regarding your second question, to be honest, Sunni muslims are angry just because this movie is telling the untold story that many many Sunni muslims never knew about. Therefore, they really want to keep this buried so that no one knows and questions start being asked. I am not saying the Shiia narrative is totally accurate because no one can determine what happened exactly. To me, the only part that I believe is false in the movie is the breaking of Fatima's rib and burning her house, and there are many Shiia Muslims who believe this to be an exaggerated detail. Also, Sunni muslims are so closed-minded that they cannot handle perspectives which are different from theirs. I mean, why are Sunni Muslims allowed to impose their own narratives in other movies and others cannot even present their own version? There is a series that presented Umar as a glorious and just caliph but there were no protests by Shiia muslims. Why can't we behave similarly? Finally, I'd like to end with the most important reason, and that is the fact that Sunni Islam is predicated on these caliphs that the movie disparages (i.e. Abu Bakr and Umar). Therefore, if you prove that these two were not the great companions Sunni Islam portrays them to be, the whole of Sunni legacy falls apart because it thrives on these individuals. But, what can I say, no one is more important than the truth, and if anyone is proven guilty of something, the truth must be told regardless of who they are and how sacred people takes them to be. I am so sorry for my lengthy reply! I tried to be as comprehensive as I could be, and I hope this answered some of the questions you had in mind.
This is a must-watch movie. Everyone must watch this Movie. This is Islamic Shia Movie. Much respect towards Non Muslims for showing love and respect towards Prophet Muhammad and his Daughter Hazrat Fatima. I would like to invite everyone to learn more about Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali and Ahlulbait. The truth lies with Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali. 😎 My advice to Non Muslims is Not to fall into the Propaganda of the deviants who claim to Muslims but are far from Islam such as the Sunnis followers of Abu Bakr, Umar ,Usman and Abu Bakr's daughter Ayesha and Umar's son Obaidullah and Usman's cousin Muawiya who fought against Islam against Prophet Mohammad's successor Hazrat Ali in Battle of Camel ( Jang E Jamal ) and Battle of Siffin ( Jang E Siffin ). These deviants always try to spread their propaganda against Islam this is Shia Islamic Movie about the Daughter of Prophet Mohammad. This film exposes Falsehood of Sunni Religion of Abu Bakr and Umar with Historical Facts. The followers of Abu Bakr and Umar can try to spread Propaganda and lies but they can't Hide and Cover Facts and History. Refrence ( 1. Sahih Muslim - 288a ( Book of Purification ) 2. Sahih Muslim - 320 ( Book of Menstruation ) 3. Sunnan ibn Majah - 1944 ( Chapter of Marriage ) 4. Sunnan Abi Dawood - Hadees - 2061 ( Marriage) 5. Sahih Muslim - 290 ( Book of Purification ). 6. Sahih Bukhari - 7100 ( Afflictions & End of World ) 7. Sahih Bukhari - 4915 ( Book 65 ) 8. Sahih Bukhari - 325 ( Book 54 - Volume - 4 ). Everyone can check the references and see for themselves the falsehood of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Truth of Islam. The Controversy about this Film also shows the Weakness of Western Countries as Years of Western Support for Sunni Dictators and Sunni Regimes and Sunni Tyrants has allowed Sunnis to establish Street Power and Influence in their countries which is finally coming to bite them hard as Sunnis are forcing the west to accept their views and imposing their backward ideology on entire countries. This Situation was long predicted and expected by Geopolitical Experts who have studied History and know the long and Bloody History of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar. Europeans are doomed as Society unless they act immediately against Extremist Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar who are hell bent on Violence and Export of Terrorism.
@@bigDaddy-lx9sn Why hasn't this mad, ranting, islamic religious crap been removed from here?! This a piece from a British news item and isn't a forum for some religious loon to be spouting this sort of shite for the furtherance of his dopey creed. Unacceptable!
This lady is absolutely correct, these barbaric, primitive yobs, should have been arrested and charged. I'm disgusted that they were allowed to get away with shutting down this film.
An interesting conversation between a non Muslim 'Tom' and an open-minded Sunni Muslim 'Khalid' about the movie "The Lady of Heaven", and the differences between Shiia and Sunni Muslims. Tom: Thank you for the video. As an outsider to Islam I didn't follow all the references but found it interesting none the less. I was wondering if you could explain to me why it matters whether Umar did this thing or not? I would go research myself but it seems like such a big topic it's hard to know whether to start. Thank you in advance and peace be with you. Tom Khalid: Hi Tom, As a Sunni person, I can tell you that the part where Umar attacked Fatima and caused her a miscarriage is a disputable story and I personally discard it. But, as you saw in the video, Umar's threat to burn the house down on Ali and his companion is accepted by both Sunni and Shia. You asked why it matters whether Umar did this or not. The answer is that even in our books (Sunni), the prophet clearly appointed Ali as his successor as you saw in the Ghadeer Khumm incident. Therefore, as companion of the prophet who believes in him, why does he go against the prophet's and God's wishes and go for forcing others to pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr? To make the point clearer, allow me to give an analogy from Game of Thrones. What happened is like Robert Baratheon's letter where he clearly appointed Ned Stark after him, but Jeoffrey completely usurped the throne and ignored that letter. The only difference is that Jeoffrey killed Ned Stark while Omar did not kill Ali. What I am trying to say here is that Ali should've been the one who ruled after the prophet (at least according to Ghadeer Khumm's sermon which even Sunni muslim scholars cannot deny). Tom: thank you so much for taking the time to write that long reply it is helpful and I understand better now where the tension comes from. Would I be right in thinking that because of this split that the tension comes because one group does not believe the legitimacy of the other as true followers of the prophet? Obviously it's a very broad question but how deep does the sentiment around the disputed succession go, are Sunnis/Shia considered proper/actually Muslims at all by the other group? Also do you think this film is proving controversial to some because it's showing one group's story, and thus the other group are angry about it as they do not believe that story to be true? Khalid: You are very welcome Tom! I am glad to know my answer helped. With regards to your question, this is not the only reason behind the tension between Sunni and Shiia groups. If you ask me to give you the most important reasons, I'd list them as the following: 🔴Shiia don't accept Abu Bakr's rule after the prophet, and I personally agree because as a religious person, it makes no sense to think that God and his prophet left a mess behind to be handled by power-hungry individuals. Id Muslims followed the prophet's orders and let Ali rule, the Muslim world would've been a much better place because he was the most reasonable and wisest person alive after the prophet. Not doing this led to all these tensions and crimes. 🔴Sunni Muslims disagree with Shiaa because Shiia Muslims accuse Ayesha (Abu Bakr's daughter and wife of the prophet) of poisoning the prophet, hence killing him. If you ask me, I'd say I cannot say this really happened, although in Sunni scholars' books like Al-Bukhari. there is an authentic hadith which narrates that when the prophet was sick (prior to his death), Ayesha and Hafsa (Umar's daughter) were forcing the prophet to drink medicine despite the prophet's insistence NOT to give him medicine (I wish I could remember the hadith's number, because to me it really gave me a weird suspicion about Ayesha, although I am Sunni). 🔴Both Sunni and Shiia books mention that Ayesha used to treat the prophet disrespectfully. There are at least 4 different incidents mentioned in Sahih Al-Bukhari, and I find this very disturbing. 🔴Some far-right Shiia believe that Ayesha cheated on the prophet, and this is something that Sunni Muslim take great offense at (The vast majority of Shiia Muslims do not go this far, but they do accuse her of hypocrisy and disrespect of the prophet). 🔴As you might have seen in the movie, some of the prophet's companions (even Umar and Abu Bakr are suspected to be among them) made an attempt at his life and both groups' books do talk about this serious matter. But Sunni Muslims intentionally avoid talking about this because they know that this will surely lead to exposing these companions; companions who are highly revered by Sunni Muslims. I personally never heard of the incident in whole life until I reached the age of 28 and I only heard about it through DulFiqar's channel. 🔴Shiia accuse Abu Bakr of confiscating lady Fatima's garden of Fadaq (which the prophet left her after his death), and to be honest, Sunni books do mention this in authentic hadiths, and because of this, it's highly sensitive to bring this up to Sunni Muslims because they know it is true, but sadly Sunnis barely read their books and they'd just immediately attack you by accusing you of being kaffir or Shiia, etc. 🔴 There are many Sunni Muslims who deem Shiia Muslims as infidels and therefore not muslims and even worthy of being killed, and I find this very disgusting and extremist because Shiia muslims practice the religion just like us and they actually are better muslims than us in many respects. I never saw a Shiia Muslim detonating himself/herself or committing any violence against Sunni muslims or any non-muslim for that matter. I met Shiia muslims who had no issue talking to me, but I rarely saw a Sunni muslim having a conversation with a Shiia muslim because they see them as a threat. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regarding your second question, to be honest, Sunni muslims are angry just because this movie is telling the untold story that many many Sunni muslims never knew about. Therefore, they really want to keep this buried so that no one knows and questions start being asked. I am not saying the Shiia narrative is totally accurate because no one can determine what happened exactly. To me, the only part that I believe is false in the movie is the breaking of Fatima's rib and burning her house, and there are many Shiia Muslims who believe this to be an exaggerated detail. Also, Sunni muslims are so closed-minded that they cannot handle perspectives which are different from theirs. I mean, why are Sunni Muslims allowed to impose their own narratives in other movies and others cannot even present their own version? There is a series that presented Umar as a glorious and just caliph but there were no protests by Shiia muslims. Why can't we behave similarly? Finally, I'd like to end with the most important reason, and that is the fact that Sunni Islam is predicated on these caliphs that the movie disparages (i.e. Abu Bakr and Umar). Therefore, if you prove that these two were not the great companions Sunni Islam portrays them to be, the whole of Sunni legacy falls apart because it thrives on these individuals. But, what can I say, no one is more important than the truth, and if anyone is proven guilty of something, the truth must be told regardless of who they are and how sacred people takes them to be. I am so sorry for my lengthy reply! I tried to be as comprehensive as I could be, and I hope this answered some of the questions you had in mind.
Probably a huge understatement unfortunately; these are a dangerous people and their numbers are increasing dramatically, very soon the numbers will be so great that they will vote their own into positions of government etc and the life that we know will be absolutely screwed. Why hasn't anybody got the balls to tell them to go do one.
An interesting conversation between a non Muslim 'Tom' and an open-minded Sunni Muslim 'Khalid' about the movie "The Lady of Heaven", and the differences between Shiia and Sunni Muslims. Tom: Thank you for the video. As an outsider to Islam I didn't follow all the references but found it interesting none the less. I was wondering if you could explain to me why it matters whether Umar did this thing or not? I would go research myself but it seems like such a big topic it's hard to know whether to start. Thank you in advance and peace be with you. Tom Khalid: Hi Tom, As a Sunni person, I can tell you that the part where Umar attacked Fatima and caused her a miscarriage is a disputable story and I personally discard it. But, as you saw in the video, Umar's threat to burn the house down on Ali and his companion is accepted by both Sunni and Shia. You asked why it matters whether Umar did this or not. The answer is that even in our books (Sunni), the prophet clearly appointed Ali as his successor as you saw in the Ghadeer Khumm incident. Therefore, as companion of the prophet who believes in him, why does he go against the prophet's and God's wishes and go for forcing others to pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr? To make the point clearer, allow me to give an analogy from Game of Thrones. What happened is like Robert Baratheon's letter where he clearly appointed Ned Stark after him, but Jeoffrey completely usurped the throne and ignored that letter. The only difference is that Jeoffrey killed Ned Stark while Omar did not kill Ali. What I am trying to say here is that Ali should've been the one who ruled after the prophet (at least according to Ghadeer Khumm's sermon which even Sunni muslim scholars cannot deny). Tom: thank you so much for taking the time to write that long reply it is helpful and I understand better now where the tension comes from. Would I be right in thinking that because of this split that the tension comes because one group does not believe the legitimacy of the other as true followers of the prophet? Obviously it's a very broad question but how deep does the sentiment around the disputed succession go, are Sunnis/Shia considered proper/actually Muslims at all by the other group? Also do you think this film is proving controversial to some because it's showing one group's story, and thus the other group are angry about it as they do not believe that story to be true? Khalid: You are very welcome Tom! I am glad to know my answer helped. With regards to your question, this is not the only reason behind the tension between Sunni and Shiia groups. If you ask me to give you the most important reasons, I'd list them as the following: 🔴Shiia don't accept Abu Bakr's rule after the prophet, and I personally agree because as a religious person, it makes no sense to think that God and his prophet left a mess behind to be handled by power-hungry individuals. Id Muslims followed the prophet's orders and let Ali rule, the Muslim world would've been a much better place because he was the most reasonable and wisest person alive after the prophet. Not doing this led to all these tensions and crimes. 🔴Sunni Muslims disagree with Shiaa because Shiia Muslims accuse Ayesha (Abu Bakr's daughter and wife of the prophet) of poisoning the prophet, hence killing him. If you ask me, I'd say I cannot say this really happened, although in Sunni scholars' books like Al-Bukhari. there is an authentic hadith which narrates that when the prophet was sick (prior to his death), Ayesha and Hafsa (Umar's daughter) were forcing the prophet to drink medicine despite the prophet's insistence NOT to give him medicine (I wish I could remember the hadith's number, because to me it really gave me a weird suspicion about Ayesha, although I am Sunni). 🔴Both Sunni and Shiia books mention that Ayesha used to treat the prophet disrespectfully. There are at least 4 different incidents mentioned in Sahih Al-Bukhari, and I find this very disturbing. 🔴Some far-right Shiia believe that Ayesha cheated on the prophet, and this is something that Sunni Muslim take great offense at (The vast majority of Shiia Muslims do not go this far, but they do accuse her of hypocrisy and disrespect of the prophet). 🔴As you might have seen in the movie, some of the prophet's companions (even Umar and Abu Bakr are suspected to be among them) made an attempt at his life and both groups' books do talk about this serious matter. But Sunni Muslims intentionally avoid talking about this because they know that this will surely lead to exposing these companions; companions who are highly revered by Sunni Muslims. I personally never heard of the incident in whole life until I reached the age of 28 and I only heard about it through DulFiqar's channel. 🔴Shiia accuse Abu Bakr of confiscating lady Fatima's garden of Fadaq (which the prophet left her after his death), and to be honest, Sunni books do mention this in authentic hadiths, and because of this, it's highly sensitive to bring this up to Sunni Muslims because they know it is true, but sadly Sunnis barely read their books and they'd just immediately attack you by accusing you of being kaffir or Shiia, etc. 🔴 There are many Sunni Muslims who deem Shiia Muslims as infidels and therefore not muslims and even worthy of being killed, and I find this very disgusting and extremist because Shiia muslims practice the religion just like us and they actually are better muslims than us in many respects. I never saw a Shiia Muslim detonating himself/herself or committing any violence against Sunni muslims or any non-muslim for that matter. I met Shiia muslims who had no issue talking to me, but I rarely saw a Sunni muslim having a conversation with a Shiia muslim because they see them as a threat. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regarding your second question, to be honest, Sunni muslims are angry just because this movie is telling the untold story that many many Sunni muslims never knew about. Therefore, they really want to keep this buried so that no one knows and questions start being asked. I am not saying the Shiia narrative is totally accurate because no one can determine what happened exactly. To me, the only part that I believe is false in the movie is the breaking of Fatima's rib and burning her house, and there are many Shiia Muslims who believe this to be an exaggerated detail. Also, Sunni muslims are so closed-minded that they cannot handle perspectives which are different from theirs. I mean, why are Sunni Muslims allowed to impose their own narratives in other movies and others cannot even present their own version? There is a series that presented Umar as a glorious and just caliph but there were no protests by Shiia muslims. Why can't we behave similarly? Finally, I'd like to end with the most important reason, and that is the fact that Sunni Islam is predicated on these caliphs that the movie disparages (i.e. Abu Bakr and Umar). Therefore, if you prove that these two were not the great companions Sunni Islam portrays them to be, the whole of Sunni legacy falls apart because it thrives on these individuals. But, what can I say, no one is more important than the truth, and if anyone is proven guilty of something, the truth must be told regardless of who they are and how sacred people takes them to be. I am so sorry for my lengthy reply! I tried to be as comprehensive as I could be, and I hope this answered some of the questions you had in mind.
Yasmine is absolutely correct. If I hadn’t been told this was the UK, I would have staked my life on it being in Afghanistan or some similar extremist country. What the hell is happening to our country?
An interesting conversation between a non Muslim 'Tom' and an open-minded Sunni Muslim 'Khalid' about the movie "The Lady of Heaven", and the differences between Shiia and Sunni Muslims. Tom: Thank you for the video. As an outsider to Islam I didn't follow all the references but found it interesting none the less. I was wondering if you could explain to me why it matters whether Umar did this thing or not? I would go research myself but it seems like such a big topic it's hard to know whether to start. Thank you in advance and peace be with you. Tom Khalid: Hi Tom, As a Sunni person, I can tell you that the part where Umar attacked Fatima and caused her a miscarriage is a disputable story and I personally discard it. But, as you saw in the video, Umar's threat to burn the house down on Ali and his companion is accepted by both Sunni and Shia. You asked why it matters whether Umar did this or not. The answer is that even in our books (Sunni), the prophet clearly appointed Ali as his successor as you saw in the Ghadeer Khumm incident. Therefore, as companion of the prophet who believes in him, why does he go against the prophet's and God's wishes and go for forcing others to pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr? To make the point clearer, allow me to give an analogy from Game of Thrones. What happened is like Robert Baratheon's letter where he clearly appointed Ned Stark after him, but Jeoffrey completely usurped the throne and ignored that letter. The only difference is that Jeoffrey killed Ned Stark while Omar did not kill Ali. What I am trying to say here is that Ali should've been the one who ruled after the prophet (at least according to Ghadeer Khumm's sermon which even Sunni muslim scholars cannot deny). Tom: thank you so much for taking the time to write that long reply it is helpful and I understand better now where the tension comes from. Would I be right in thinking that because of this split that the tension comes because one group does not believe the legitimacy of the other as true followers of the prophet? Obviously it's a very broad question but how deep does the sentiment around the disputed succession go, are Sunnis/Shia considered proper/actually Muslims at all by the other group? Also do you think this film is proving controversial to some because it's showing one group's story, and thus the other group are angry about it as they do not believe that story to be true? Khalid: You are very welcome Tom! I am glad to know my answer helped. With regards to your question, this is not the only reason behind the tension between Sunni and Shiia groups. If you ask me to give you the most important reasons, I'd list them as the following: 🔴Shiia don't accept Abu Bakr's rule after the prophet, and I personally agree because as a religious person, it makes no sense to think that God and his prophet left a mess behind to be handled by power-hungry individuals. Id Muslims followed the prophet's orders and let Ali rule, the Muslim world would've been a much better place because he was the most reasonable and wisest person alive after the prophet. Not doing this led to all these tensions and crimes. 🔴Sunni Muslims disagree with Shiaa because Shiia Muslims accuse Ayesha (Abu Bakr's daughter and wife of the prophet) of poisoning the prophet, hence killing him. If you ask me, I'd say I cannot say this really happened, although in Sunni scholars' books like Al-Bukhari. there is an authentic hadith which narrates that when the prophet was sick (prior to his death), Ayesha and Hafsa (Umar's daughter) were forcing the prophet to drink medicine despite the prophet's insistence NOT to give him medicine (I wish I could remember the hadith's number, because to me it really gave me a weird suspicion about Ayesha, although I am Sunni). 🔴Both Sunni and Shiia books mention that Ayesha used to treat the prophet disrespectfully. There are at least 4 different incidents mentioned in Sahih Al-Bukhari, and I find this very disturbing. 🔴Some far-right Shiia believe that Ayesha cheated on the prophet, and this is something that Sunni Muslim take great offense at (The vast majority of Shiia Muslims do not go this far, but they do accuse her of hypocrisy and disrespect of the prophet). 🔴As you might have seen in the movie, some of the prophet's companions (even Umar and Abu Bakr are suspected to be among them) made an attempt at his life and both groups' books do talk about this serious matter. But Sunni Muslims intentionally avoid talking about this because they know that this will surely lead to exposing these companions; companions who are highly revered by Sunni Muslims. I personally never heard of the incident in whole life until I reached the age of 28 and I only heard about it through DulFiqar's channel. 🔴Shiia accuse Abu Bakr of confiscating lady Fatima's garden of Fadaq (which the prophet left her after his death), and to be honest, Sunni books do mention this in authentic hadiths, and because of this, it's highly sensitive to bring this up to Sunni Muslims because they know it is true, but sadly Sunnis barely read their books and they'd just immediately attack you by accusing you of being kaffir or Shiia, etc. 🔴 There are many Sunni Muslims who deem Shiia Muslims as infidels and therefore not muslims and even worthy of being killed, and I find this very disgusting and extremist because Shiia muslims practice the religion just like us and they actually are better muslims than us in many respects. I never saw a Shiia Muslim detonating himself/herself or committing any violence against Sunni muslims or any non-muslim for that matter. I met Shiia muslims who had no issue talking to me, but I rarely saw a Sunni muslim having a conversation with a Shiia muslim because they see them as a threat. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regarding your second question, to be honest, Sunni muslims are angry just because this movie is telling the untold story that many many Sunni muslims never knew about. Therefore, they really want to keep this buried so that no one knows and questions start being asked. I am not saying the Shiia narrative is totally accurate because no one can determine what happened exactly. To me, the only part that I believe is false in the movie is the breaking of Fatima's rib and burning her house, and there are many Shiia Muslims who believe this to be an exaggerated detail. Also, Sunni muslims are so closed-minded that they cannot handle perspectives which are different from theirs. I mean, why are Sunni Muslims allowed to impose their own narratives in other movies and others cannot even present their own version? There is a series that presented Umar as a glorious and just caliph but there were no protests by Shiia muslims. Why can't we behave similarly? Finally, I'd like to end with the most important reason, and that is the fact that Sunni Islam is predicated on these caliphs that the movie disparages (i.e. Abu Bakr and Umar). Therefore, if you prove that these two were not the great companions Sunni Islam portrays them to be, the whole of Sunni legacy falls apart because it thrives on these individuals. But, what can I say, no one is more important than the truth, and if anyone is proven guilty of something, the truth must be told regardless of who they are and how sacred people takes them to be. I am so sorry for my lengthy reply! I tried to be as comprehensive as I could be, and I hope this answered some of the questions you had in mind.
This is a must-watch movie. Everyone must watch this Movie. This is Islamic Shia Movie. Much respect towards Non Muslims for showing love and respect towards Prophet Muhammad and his Daughter Hazrat Fatima. I would like to invite everyone to learn more about Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali and Ahlulbait. The truth lies with Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali. 😎 My advice to Non Muslims is Not to fall into the Propaganda of the deviants who claim to Muslims but are far from Islam such as the Sunnis followers of Abu Bakr, Umar ,Usman and Abu Bakr's daughter Ayesha and Umar's son Obaidullah and Usman's cousin Muawiya who fought against Islam against Prophet Mohammad's successor Hazrat Ali in Battle of Camel ( Jang E Jamal ) and Battle of Siffin ( Jang E Siffin ). These deviants always try to spread their propaganda against Islam this is Shia Islamic Movie about the Daughter of Prophet Mohammad. This film exposes Falsehood of Sunni Religion of Abu Bakr and Umar with Historical Facts. The followers of Abu Bakr and Umar can try to spread Propaganda and lies but they can't Hide and Cover Facts and History. Refrence ( 1. Sahih Muslim - 288a ( Book of Purification ) 2. Sahih Muslim - 320 ( Book of Menstruation ) 3. Sunnan ibn Majah - 1944 ( Chapter of Marriage ) 4. Sunnan Abi Dawood - Hadees - 2061 ( Marriage) 5. Sahih Muslim - 290 ( Book of Purification ). 6. Sahih Bukhari - 7100 ( Afflictions & End of World ) 7. Sahih Bukhari - 4915 ( Book 65 ) 8. Sahih Bukhari - 325 ( Book 54 - Volume - 4 ). Everyone can check the references and see for themselves the falsehood of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Truth of Islam. The Controversy about this Film also shows the Weakness of Western Countries as Years of Western Support for Sunni Dictators and Sunni Regimes and Sunni Tyrants has allowed Sunnis to establish Street Power and Influence in their countries which is finally coming to bite them hard as Sunnis are forcing the west to accept their views and imposing their backward ideology on entire countries. This Situation was long predicted and expected by Geopolitical Experts who have studied History and know the long and Bloody History of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar. Europeans are doomed as Society unless they act immediately against Extremist Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar who are hell bent on Violence and Export of Terrorism.
@@hawx1212 Well I never suggested that she is going to to do acts of violence, but many follower of her religion do; Boko haram, 50 Christian worshiper killed in a church in Nigeria, ISIS , Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood who like to blow up churches preferably when full, Al Shebab. I am not including some multidimensional individual drank on the same religion, killing civilian at random. Feel free to correct me
@@marcellogenesi6390 She is a brave ex Muslim whose husband was a terrorist . Google her and you will see her story. And she did not change race when she left islam. So anti islamic comments are not racist.
Everthing in western culture is Haram to them, yet they were involved in selling alcohol,drugs, betting,prostitution, they even sell bacon, f..cking HYPOCRISY at it's worse.
She's not wrong. We should take the same action with anyone using what has become to be known as woke tactics. I genuinely want to see the film, it looks good and I'm open to looking through the lens at different cultures, countries ect. It's a disgrace this is being cancelled, even worse when islamophobia is being used when it's made by a Muslim! Time to start standing up to bullies.
The movie exposes the roots of ISIS (Abu Bakr and Umar). The reason Sunnis are mad is because they see Abu Bakr and Umar as the best humans. Rather, they were the founding fathers of Terrorism, they killed the prophet and his daughter peace be upon them, and introduced this new terrorist version of Islam, known as Sunni Islam.
@@truckerfromreno STOP shedding crocodile tears and applying double standards. The United States, the United Kingdom, and NATO are the world's evils/devils and scum. They have destroyed and murdered millions of people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Palestine, and elsewhere.
@@paulschnyder938 But where are the _'far right'_ and who are they?,_ I keep hearing about them but never see them only the likes of Antifa, the Left, BLM, Islam, Gay parades and and Trans rallies but the way some talk there are huge Nazi rallies taking place in our cities every other week. I'm a white Christian does that make me _Far Right?_ as it seems that some are so far left that anyone near centre is _Far Right'_ to them. The Azov Battalion in Ukraine, now I'd agree that was _Far Right_ but I don't see anything like that in Olde Blighty.
@@karlmunford7000 STOP shedding crocodile tears and applying double standards. The United States, the United Kingdom, and NATO are the world's evils/devils and scum. They have destroyed and murdered millions of people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Palestine, and elsewhere.
If it was any other group of protesters, Police would be kneeling on their necks cuffing them behind their backs. The Law of the Land, - and the application of the laws - have to apply to everybody and not just a select few.
If the police quite literally arrested and charged the little girls parents for racist hate crimes when trying to report their 11 year old little girls had been gangraped. What chance do you have of them doing anything about them threatening to suicide attack teenage cinema staff?
you have a good point that is a bit messed up but I'll take it. Its more like if some loves bill cosbey and you tell him that bill is a criminal and then he starts to act like an animal and try to kill you.
This is a must-watch movie. Everyone must watch this Movie. This is Islamic Shia Movie. Much respect towards Non Muslims for showing love and respect towards Prophet Muhammad and his Daughter Hazrat Fatima. I would like to invite everyone to learn more about Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali and Ahlulbait. The truth lies with Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali. 😎 My advice to Non Muslims is Not to fall into the Propaganda of the deviants who claim to Muslims but are far from Islam such as the Sunnis followers of Abu Bakr, Umar ,Usman and Abu Bakr's daughter Ayesha and Umar's son Obaidullah and Usman's cousin Muawiya who fought against Islam against Prophet Mohammad's successor Hazrat Ali in Battle of Camel ( Jang E Jamal ) and Battle of Siffin ( Jang E Siffin ). These deviants always try to spread their propaganda against Islam this is Shia Islamic Movie about the Daughter of Prophet Mohammad. This film exposes Falsehood of Sunni Religion of Abu Bakr and Umar with Historical Facts. The followers of Abu Bakr and Umar can try to spread Propaganda and lies but they can't Hide and Cover Facts and History. Refrence ( 1. Sahih Muslim - 288a ( Book of Purification ) 2. Sahih Muslim - 320 ( Book of Menstruation ) 3. Sunnan ibn Majah - 1944 ( Chapter of Marriage ) 4. Sunnan Abi Dawood - Hadees - 2061 ( Marriage) 5. Sahih Muslim - 290 ( Book of Purification ). 6. Sahih Bukhari - 7100 ( Afflictions & End of World ) 7. Sahih Bukhari - 4915 ( Book 65 ) 8. Sahih Bukhari - 325 ( Book 54 - Volume - 4 ). Everyone can check the references and see for themselves the falsehood of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Truth of Islam. The Controversy about this Film also shows the Weakness of Western Countries as Years of Western Support for Sunni Dictators and Sunni Regimes and Sunni Tyrants has allowed Sunnis to establish Street Power and Influence in their countries which is finally coming to bite them hard as Sunnis are forcing the west to accept their views and imposing their backward ideology on entire countries. This Situation was long predicted and expected by Geopolitical Experts who have studied History and know the long and Bloody History of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar. Europeans are doomed as Society unless they act immediately against Extremist Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar who are hell bent on Violence and Export of Terrorism.
Certainly this sort of protesting shouldn't happen in the UK where this country is generous offer the majority of these protesters a place to live and be grateful.
Shame on the cinemas shame on the inadequacy of our police. We pay them to do what? These people were threatening others, and they were allowed. We really do not want Muslim versus Christian, do we?if the police do not do their job, I fear the worst.
An interesting conversation between a non Muslim 'Tom' and an open-minded Sunni Muslim 'Khalid' about the movie "The Lady of Heaven", and the differences between Shiia and Sunni Muslims. Tom: Thank you for the video. As an outsider to Islam I didn't follow all the references but found it interesting none the less. I was wondering if you could explain to me why it matters whether Umar did this thing or not? I would go research myself but it seems like such a big topic it's hard to know whether to start. Thank you in advance and peace be with you. Tom Khalid: Hi Tom, As a Sunni person, I can tell you that the part where Umar attacked Fatima and caused her a miscarriage is a disputable story and I personally discard it. But, as you saw in the video, Umar's threat to burn the house down on Ali and his companion is accepted by both Sunni and Shia. You asked why it matters whether Umar did this or not. The answer is that even in our books (Sunni), the prophet clearly appointed Ali as his successor as you saw in the Ghadeer Khumm incident. Therefore, as companion of the prophet who believes in him, why does he go against the prophet's and God's wishes and go for forcing others to pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr? To make the point clearer, allow me to give an analogy from Game of Thrones. What happened is like Robert Baratheon's letter where he clearly appointed Ned Stark after him, but Jeoffrey completely usurped the throne and ignored that letter. The only difference is that Jeoffrey killed Ned Stark while Omar did not kill Ali. What I am trying to say here is that Ali should've been the one who ruled after the prophet (at least according to Ghadeer Khumm's sermon which even Sunni muslim scholars cannot deny). Tom: thank you so much for taking the time to write that long reply it is helpful and I understand better now where the tension comes from. Would I be right in thinking that because of this split that the tension comes because one group does not believe the legitimacy of the other as true followers of the prophet? Obviously it's a very broad question but how deep does the sentiment around the disputed succession go, are Sunnis/Shia considered proper/actually Muslims at all by the other group? Also do you think this film is proving controversial to some because it's showing one group's story, and thus the other group are angry about it as they do not believe that story to be true? Khalid: You are very welcome Tom! I am glad to know my answer helped. With regards to your question, this is not the only reason behind the tension between Sunni and Shiia groups. If you ask me to give you the most important reasons, I'd list them as the following: 🔴Shiia don't accept Abu Bakr's rule after the prophet, and I personally agree because as a religious person, it makes no sense to think that God and his prophet left a mess behind to be handled by power-hungry individuals. Id Muslims followed the prophet's orders and let Ali rule, the Muslim world would've been a much better place because he was the most reasonable and wisest person alive after the prophet. Not doing this led to all these tensions and crimes. 🔴Sunni Muslims disagree with Shiaa because Shiia Muslims accuse Ayesha (Abu Bakr's daughter and wife of the prophet) of poisoning the prophet, hence killing him. If you ask me, I'd say I cannot say this really happened, although in Sunni scholars' books like Al-Bukhari. there is an authentic hadith which narrates that when the prophet was sick (prior to his death), Ayesha and Hafsa (Umar's daughter) were forcing the prophet to drink medicine despite the prophet's insistence NOT to give him medicine (I wish I could remember the hadith's number, because to me it really gave me a weird suspicion about Ayesha, although I am Sunni). 🔴Both Sunni and Shiia books mention that Ayesha used to treat the prophet disrespectfully. There are at least 4 different incidents mentioned in Sahih Al-Bukhari, and I find this very disturbing. 🔴Some far-right Shiia believe that Ayesha cheated on the prophet, and this is something that Sunni Muslim take great offense at (The vast majority of Shiia Muslims do not go this far, but they do accuse her of hypocrisy and disrespect of the prophet). 🔴As you might have seen in the movie, some of the prophet's companions (even Umar and Abu Bakr are suspected to be among them) made an attempt at his life and both groups' books do talk about this serious matter. But Sunni Muslims intentionally avoid talking about this because they know that this will surely lead to exposing these companions; companions who are highly revered by Sunni Muslims. I personally never heard of the incident in whole life until I reached the age of 28 and I only heard about it through DulFiqar's channel. 🔴Shiia accuse Abu Bakr of confiscating lady Fatima's garden of Fadaq (which the prophet left her after his death), and to be honest, Sunni books do mention this in authentic hadiths, and because of this, it's highly sensitive to bring this up to Sunni Muslims because they know it is true, but sadly Sunnis barely read their books and they'd just immediately attack you by accusing you of being kaffir or Shiia, etc. 🔴 There are many Sunni Muslims who deem Shiia Muslims as infidels and therefore not muslims and even worthy of being killed, and I find this very disgusting and extremist because Shiia muslims practice the religion just like us and they actually are better muslims than us in many respects. I never saw a Shiia Muslim detonating himself/herself or committing any violence against Sunni muslims or any non-muslim for that matter. I met Shiia muslims who had no issue talking to me, but I rarely saw a Sunni muslim having a conversation with a Shiia muslim because they see them as a threat. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regarding your second question, to be honest, Sunni muslims are angry just because this movie is telling the untold story that many many Sunni muslims never knew about. Therefore, they really want to keep this buried so that no one knows and questions start being asked. I am not saying the Shiia narrative is totally accurate because no one can determine what happened exactly. To me, the only part that I believe is false in the movie is the breaking of Fatima's rib and burning her house, and there are many Shiia Muslims who believe this to be an exaggerated detail. Also, Sunni muslims are so closed-minded that they cannot handle perspectives which are different from theirs. I mean, why are Sunni Muslims allowed to impose their own narratives in other movies and others cannot even present their own version? There is a series that presented Umar as a glorious and just caliph but there were no protests by Shiia muslims. Why can't we behave similarly? Finally, I'd like to end with the most important reason, and that is the fact that Sunni Islam is predicated on these caliphs that the movie disparages (i.e. Abu Bakr and Umar). Therefore, if you prove that these two were not the great companions Sunni Islam portrays them to be, the whole of Sunni legacy falls apart because it thrives on these individuals. But, what can I say, no one is more important than the truth, and if anyone is proven guilty of something, the truth must be told regardless of who they are and how sacred people takes them to be. I am so sorry for my lengthy reply! I tried to be as comprehensive as I could be, and I hope this answered some of the questions you had in mind.
That’s the best way to put it simply pathetic. Remember they don’t want this seen for a reason first it will expose their terroristic views and number 2 it will cause some people to finally research and see the truth and then it will hurt their pockets.
@@andrewelliott4436 tony blair decided he could solve it for them, thats why. hes still haunting peoples tvs grinning like a loon asking for the r ing of power back.
@@robertjones3613 No. Thunder clouds are gathering in the West. The storm has not yet begun. Weak men confuse patience for weakness & tolerance for cowardice. 2000 years of Western history & culture can not be ignored....no matter how hard woke politicians try.
The movie exposes the roots of ISIS (Abu Bakr and Umar). The reason Sunnis are mad is because they see Abu Bakr and Umar as the best humans. Rather, they were the founding fathers of Terrorism, they killed the prophet and his daughter peace be upon them, and introduced this new terrorist version of Islam, known as Sunni Islam.
@cineworld You can get your strength back, keep your audience and your brand around the world, by recasting The Lady of Heaven in your cinemas, instead of the days that have been canceled, you will grow in the eyes of the British people because you support freedom!
Lol you rafidis have apparently successfully brainwashed the British public who are ignorant of your reality. Am just so shocked of your hypocricy and dishonesty. Lol yasser habib calls for the beheading of shia scholars who disagree with him in iraq and even praised the burnin of mosques in iraq yet here in the uk he is being presented as someone who supports freedom of expression when this concept is ALIEN to him and his group who constantly call for the killing of scholars who disagree with them openly and praise mosque burners. Crazy lol
These people are so disgusting just look at them all this over a movie my god. No wonder they made this movie to show us what they are like and where they came from.
Muslim percentage of population in UK ,4 percent so why is this possible ,it must be enabled by the police local government and the UK government , ask yourself WHY
You ignored the Sunni protests against the Ahmediyya mosque in Birmingham and even the murder of the Ahmediyya in Glasgow by a Sunni who drove all the way from Bradford to stab him to death.
If you know anything about the makers of this film you would know why the British media is protecting them and supporting their propaganda. This exact shia group is support by the British intelligence service to cause division and cause sectarian war in Muslim countries. Go to yasser habib Chanel called “fadak” see how he openly calling to the beheading of shia scholars who disagree with him and how he has a video praising his mindless followers who burned the mosques and Islamic centres of those shia scholars he disagree with. It’s so shameful the British media and ppl are supporting these kinds of lunatics in the name of freedom of expression bcos freedom of expression is an alien concept to yasser habib and his group.
@@Aurora-lm5ns yes, it's not because Islam is intolerant and oppressive it's because of this particular group, and that particular group. Pretty much any particular group you want to act like a child and cry about.
Taxis and takeaways. They don't really do much in the day so leaves them free to protest and intimidate people going about their jobs. Feel for Cineworld workers..
anyone wondering why theyre doing this is not to 'defend their religon' theyre called sunnis and have one motive, that motive is to quiet the Shia sect from telling the true story and the real history of what happened after the prophets death.
Sandra watch the movie and see the message and the truth they are trying to tell and then see how these idiots are acting and you’ll make sense of the entire thing. Once I watched it and they show how this terrorism started I realized these groups are using the religion as a way to control and hurt people. They did it to their own prophet and his family. The movie truly tells the truth and the reason I was able to see that is why are all these protests happening over a movie then I realized oh they are being exposed.
We as a shia muslims don't want to fight anybody we just made a movie explaining our point of view and thats all . We love all people and just want to live in peace .
@@keithdavies1395 same with Madonna etc women's rights my fat arse they should go n bang on for all of the 30 secs they'd get away with it over there only reason they do it here virtue signal no consequence. Well there be pride marches n taking the knee in Qatar...
1948 and the division of India comes to mind. UK towns and cities next? The UK suffered for hundreds of years from divisions in what is essentially the same faith, now the immigrants have brought it back.
It only happens here because the powers that be let it . People flocking here for a better way of life, but dragging there ways with them . Not much longer to go before our country is just the same as there’s . Just glad I’m nearer the end rather then the beginning of my life
The movie exposes the roots of ISIS (Abu Bakr and Umar). The reason Sunnis are mad is because they see Abu Bakr and Umar as the best humans. Rather, they were the founding fathers of Terrorism, they killed the prophet and his daughter peace be upon them, and introduced this new terrorist version of Islam, known as Sunni Islam.
Can't expect the Police to get involved in this matter..I mean it is Pride 🌈 month after all, so they've obviously got their hand full without having to deal with intimidatiion and death threats. !
what country is this ? I remember being told about WW2 that we came through for our way of life, our NHS, our rights, and of course being a Christian country, so no idea where this is being filmed eh
This is the enrichment diversity brings to Britain, I can't think of a better time to be alive in Britain, the natives, we just love this stuff, I can't wait for the Cost Guard to bring more of them here, so our nation and people can benefit from all the great positives they bring!!! hurray for multiculturalism!!
it's more like the British government brings to British only things the British government throws out of Britain is the English constitution and common law that protects England when people realizes that we can get together English of all colours going by our own laws can you imagine such a thing ...
The UK lost to the middle east decades ago. There's no going back now. All of this was predicted by many scholars over the years and no one in power took action. R.I.P. United Kingdom.
Let's have national watch whatever you want film day, films that poke fun at any subject so we can all have a laugh and tolerate each other. The alternative is much less appealing.
If you watch this movie, you will understand why those thugs getting crazy. Bottom line Sunni muslims wants to dictate what the people eat or watch or think. As a Shia we have been fighting this tyranny since 1000 years ago, but the whole world looking with one eye.
@@briancox9357 That the foolish thing I have ever heard … Well, your country will be infested by those ISIS supporters if you don’t fight this battle with us.
Isn't the UK always proud of being the most civilized and free country??? Where is the freedom to ban this movie?? It is shameful to see a country ancient in civilization and progress submit like cowardly to these terrorists...
@@baqerismael thats the sad part, UK is taking the ISIS supporters side and stepping over the Shia side. And some fools tells you to go take the battle outside the country instead of defending the freedom in UK with the Shia.
Ex-Muslim here. I left Islam 6 years ago. Non-violence and pacifism should be the core of any true religion, which isn't the case with Islam. One of my main reasons for me leaving was Islam allows bloodshed and killing of animals in the name of halal, something i couldn't agree with from my then religion
This is Sunni Islam, not Shia Islam. this is why we want the world to know that there is a real Islam that contradicts the Islam of the Sunnis for this reason they are trying to prevent a Shia movie. You have to watch Rafida plus channel
No, this lady is wrong. The proper way to deal with with this threatening behavoiur is to have a very large police presence and arrest those who refuse to disperse and behave properly. Short prison sentences and Criminal Behaviour Orders limiting the numbers who can associate and whom they can associate with should follow. Fundamental Sunni Islam cannot be banned like the National Front but if the will is there we can prevent it "Mopbbing" people. The will is not there for fear of being labelled racist or Islamophobic.
I think all of us, regardless of colour, sexuality, faith or nationality, should get together in the spirit of brotherhood to kick this lot out
I agree 100%!.
There's a reason god separated each race.
Yep
Im up for that.
I think you should be kicked,learn to respect each other religions.
“Get the police involved “? Is she talking about the same police who wouldn’t deal with Islamic grooming gangs because they were afraid of being called racist?
Yes, those police that allowed BLM to riot in London and ran away, yet arrested protesters of lockdown for turning up in London, our proud two tier policing at it's finest.
Yep
All police are cowards
The police have no interest in enforcing the law or standing up for the British people . The Covid pandemic proved they are not fit for purpose and they,re lack of action here proves that point . A disgrace to this country just like the Goverment .
Police is part of the problem
Referendum on Immigration...join UKIP campaign.!
WHO`s Laws are THEY abiding by?
British Law? " I Think NOT"
Their OWN LAW " YES "!
It's not just sad to see such things in Britain, it is outrageous to see such things. Those protesting chose to come to this country. Were they totally unaware of the values here that they might find offensive and therefore Britain should not have been their destination of choice. Even more outrageous is the fact that our politicians not only do not speak out against these immigrants but often are in full support of the actions that they take.
they come here with zero respect for us, and carry on as if they're in their own country - I don't blame them, I blame our corrupt government
Well said and absolutely spot on. Very frightening to think this is the UK.
@@josimpson7999 Have you gobshites forgotten Charlie Hebdo?
It isn’t the UK anymore we have no rights to are own country. It’s disgusting what is happening and soon as anyone stands up and says something your a racist. It’s are country and we run by foreigners.
LOL like they said a few years back why do you think this is your country, its not anymore. Wake up
Don’t come into My Culture and try to IMPOSE 👊 Yours
Nope but you could bribe a lot of people to do so..... for ya
17 Jahr ........blondes Haar
India is also benefiting from peaceful forces.
they did, they are, unlucky.
This is a must-watch movie. Everyone must watch this Movie.
This is Islamic Shia Movie. Much respect towards Non Muslims for showing love and respect towards Prophet Muhammad and his Daughter Hazrat Fatima. I would like to invite everyone to learn more about Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali and Ahlulbait. The truth lies with Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali. 😎
My advice to Non Muslims is Not to fall into the Propaganda of the deviants who claim to Muslims but are far from Islam such as the Sunnis followers of Abu Bakr, Umar ,Usman and Abu Bakr's daughter Ayesha and Umar's son Obaidullah and Usman's cousin Muawiya who fought against Islam against Prophet Mohammad's successor Hazrat Ali in Battle of Camel ( Jang E Jamal ) and Battle of Siffin ( Jang E Siffin ). These deviants always try to spread their propaganda against Islam this is Shia Islamic Movie about the Daughter of Prophet Mohammad.
This film exposes Falsehood of Sunni Religion of Abu Bakr and Umar with Historical Facts.
The followers of Abu Bakr and Umar can try to spread Propaganda and lies but they can't Hide and Cover Facts and History.
Refrence ( 1. Sahih Muslim - 288a ( Book of Purification )
2. Sahih Muslim - 320 ( Book of Menstruation )
3. Sunnan ibn Majah - 1944 ( Chapter of Marriage )
4. Sunnan Abi Dawood - Hadees - 2061 ( Marriage)
5. Sahih Muslim - 290 ( Book of Purification ).
6. Sahih Bukhari - 7100 ( Afflictions & End of World )
7. Sahih Bukhari - 4915 ( Book 65 )
8. Sahih Bukhari - 325 ( Book 54 - Volume - 4 ).
Everyone can check the references and see for themselves the falsehood of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Truth of Islam.
The Controversy about this Film also shows the Weakness of Western Countries as Years of Western Support for Sunni Dictators and Sunni Regimes and Sunni Tyrants has allowed Sunnis to establish Street Power and Influence in their countries which is finally coming to bite them hard as Sunnis are forcing the west to accept their views and imposing their backward ideology on entire countries.
This Situation was long predicted and expected by Geopolitical Experts who have studied History and know the long and Bloody History of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar.
Europeans are doomed as Society unless they act immediately against Extremist Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar who are hell bent on Violence and Export of Terrorism.
They should show this film on a big public screen!
On Netflix
I agree with you
It’s must
An interesting conversation between a non Muslim 'Tom' and an open-minded Sunni Muslim 'Khalid' about the movie "The Lady of Heaven", and the differences between Shiia and Sunni Muslims.
Tom:
Thank you for the video. As an outsider to Islam I didn't follow all the references but found it interesting none the less.
I was wondering if you could explain to me why it matters whether Umar did this thing or not?
I would go research myself but it seems like such a big topic it's hard to know whether to start.
Thank you in advance and peace be with you.
Tom
Khalid:
Hi Tom, As a Sunni person, I can tell you that the part where Umar attacked Fatima and caused her a miscarriage is a disputable story and I personally discard it. But, as you saw in the video, Umar's threat to burn the house down on Ali and his companion is accepted by both Sunni and Shia.
You asked why it matters whether Umar did this or not. The answer is that even in our books (Sunni), the prophet clearly appointed Ali as his successor as you saw in the Ghadeer Khumm incident. Therefore, as companion of the prophet who believes in him, why does he go against the prophet's and God's wishes and go for forcing others to pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr? To make the point clearer, allow me to give an analogy from Game of Thrones. What happened is like Robert Baratheon's letter where he clearly appointed Ned Stark after him, but Jeoffrey completely usurped the throne and ignored that letter. The only difference is that Jeoffrey killed Ned Stark while Omar did not kill Ali. What I am trying to say here is that Ali should've been the one who ruled after the prophet (at least according to Ghadeer Khumm's sermon which even Sunni muslim scholars cannot deny).
Tom:
thank you so much for taking the time to write that long reply it is helpful and I understand better now where the tension comes from.
Would I be right in thinking that because of this split that the tension comes because one group does not believe the legitimacy of the other as true followers of the prophet? Obviously it's a very broad question but how deep does the sentiment around the disputed succession go, are Sunnis/Shia considered proper/actually Muslims at all by the other group? Also do you think this film is proving controversial to some because it's showing one group's story, and thus the other group are angry about it as they do not believe that story to be true?
Khalid:
You are very welcome Tom!
I am glad to know my answer helped. With regards to your question, this is not the only reason behind the tension between Sunni and Shiia groups. If you ask me to give you the most important reasons, I'd list them as the following:
🔴Shiia don't accept Abu Bakr's rule after the prophet, and I personally agree because as a religious person, it makes no sense to think that God and his prophet left a mess behind to be handled by power-hungry individuals. Id Muslims followed the prophet's orders and let Ali rule, the Muslim world would've been a much better place because he was the most reasonable and wisest person alive after the prophet. Not doing this led to all these tensions and crimes.
🔴Sunni Muslims disagree with Shiaa because Shiia Muslims accuse Ayesha (Abu Bakr's daughter and wife of the prophet) of poisoning the prophet, hence killing him. If you ask me, I'd say I cannot say this really happened, although in Sunni scholars' books like Al-Bukhari. there is an authentic hadith which narrates that when the prophet was sick (prior to his death), Ayesha and Hafsa (Umar's daughter) were forcing the prophet to drink medicine despite the prophet's insistence NOT to give him medicine (I wish I could remember the hadith's number, because to me it really gave me a weird suspicion about Ayesha, although I am Sunni).
🔴Both Sunni and Shiia books mention that Ayesha used to treat the prophet disrespectfully. There are at least 4 different incidents mentioned in Sahih Al-Bukhari, and I find this very disturbing.
🔴Some far-right Shiia believe that Ayesha cheated on the prophet, and this is something that Sunni Muslim take great offense at (The vast majority of Shiia Muslims do not go this far, but they do accuse her of hypocrisy and disrespect of the prophet).
🔴As you might have seen in the movie, some of the prophet's companions (even Umar and Abu Bakr are suspected to be among them) made an attempt at his life and both groups' books do talk about this serious matter. But Sunni Muslims intentionally avoid talking about this because they know that this will surely lead to exposing these companions; companions who are highly revered by Sunni Muslims. I personally never heard of the incident in whole life until I reached the age of 28 and I only heard about it through DulFiqar's channel.
🔴Shiia accuse Abu Bakr of confiscating lady Fatima's garden of Fadaq (which the prophet left her after his death), and to be honest, Sunni books do mention this in authentic hadiths, and because of this, it's highly sensitive to bring this up to Sunni Muslims because they know it is true, but sadly Sunnis barely read their books and they'd just immediately attack you by accusing you of being kaffir or Shiia, etc.
🔴 There are many Sunni Muslims who deem Shiia Muslims as infidels and therefore not muslims and even worthy of being killed, and I find this very disgusting and extremist because Shiia muslims practice the religion just like us and they actually are better muslims than us in many respects. I never saw a Shiia Muslim detonating himself/herself or committing any violence against Sunni muslims or any non-muslim for that matter. I met Shiia muslims who had no issue talking to me, but I rarely saw a Sunni muslim having a conversation with a Shiia muslim because they see them as a threat.
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Regarding your second question, to be honest, Sunni muslims are angry just because this movie is telling the untold story that many many Sunni muslims never knew about. Therefore, they really want to keep this buried so that no one knows and questions start being asked. I am not saying the Shiia narrative is totally accurate because no one can determine what happened exactly. To me, the only part that I believe is false in the movie is the breaking of Fatima's rib and burning her house, and there are many Shiia Muslims who believe this to be an exaggerated detail.
Also, Sunni muslims are so closed-minded that they cannot handle perspectives which are different from theirs. I mean, why are Sunni Muslims allowed to impose their own narratives in other movies and others cannot even present their own version? There is a series that presented Umar as a glorious and just caliph but there were no protests by Shiia muslims. Why can't we behave similarly?
Finally, I'd like to end with the most important reason, and that is the fact that Sunni Islam is predicated on these caliphs that the movie disparages (i.e. Abu Bakr and Umar). Therefore, if you prove that these two were not the great companions Sunni Islam portrays them to be, the whole of Sunni legacy falls apart because it thrives on these individuals. But, what can I say, no one is more important than the truth, and if anyone is proven guilty of something, the truth must be told regardless of who they are and how sacred people takes them to be.
I am so sorry for my lengthy reply! I tried to be as comprehensive as I could be, and I hope this answered some of the questions you had in mind.
Yes 🙌
Did anyone notice there were no women in that crowd? Wonder why that was.
probably too busy knocking out more kids 🤔..
Indeed, no women. No mandatory black faces either, or even a token white. Perhaps they might benefit from some inclusivity training!
Second class citizens. Do as they are told
This is a must-watch movie. Everyone must watch this Movie.
This is Islamic Shia Movie. Much respect towards Non Muslims for showing love and respect towards Prophet Muhammad and his Daughter Hazrat Fatima. I would like to invite everyone to learn more about Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali and Ahlulbait. The truth lies with Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali. 😎
My advice to Non Muslims is Not to fall into the Propaganda of the deviants who claim to Muslims but are far from Islam such as the Sunnis followers of Abu Bakr, Umar ,Usman and Abu Bakr's daughter Ayesha and Umar's son Obaidullah and Usman's cousin Muawiya who fought against Islam against Prophet Mohammad's successor Hazrat Ali in Battle of Camel ( Jang E Jamal ) and Battle of Siffin ( Jang E Siffin ). These deviants always try to spread their propaganda against Islam this is Shia Islamic Movie about the Daughter of Prophet Mohammad.
This film exposes Falsehood of Sunni Religion of Abu Bakr and Umar with Historical Facts.
The followers of Abu Bakr and Umar can try to spread Propaganda and lies but they can't Hide and Cover Facts and History.
Refrence ( 1. Sahih Muslim - 288a ( Book of Purification )
2. Sahih Muslim - 320 ( Book of Menstruation )
3. Sunnan ibn Majah - 1944 ( Chapter of Marriage )
4. Sunnan Abi Dawood - Hadees - 2061 ( Marriage)
5. Sahih Muslim - 290 ( Book of Purification ).
6. Sahih Bukhari - 7100 ( Afflictions & End of World )
7. Sahih Bukhari - 4915 ( Book 65 )
8. Sahih Bukhari - 325 ( Book 54 - Volume - 4 ).
Everyone can check the references and see for themselves the falsehood of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Truth of Islam.
The Controversy about this Film also shows the Weakness of Western Countries as Years of Western Support for Sunni Dictators and Sunni Regimes and Sunni Tyrants has allowed Sunnis to establish Street Power and Influence in their countries which is finally coming to bite them hard as Sunnis are forcing the west to accept their views and imposing their backward ideology on entire countries.
This Situation was long predicted and expected by Geopolitical Experts who have studied History and know the long and Bloody History of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar.
Europeans are doomed as Society unless they act immediately against Extremist Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar who are hell bent on Violence and Export of Terrorism.
@@bigDaddy-lx9sn Why hasn't this mad, ranting, islamic religious crap been removed from here?!
This a piece from a British news item and isn't a forum for some religious loon to be spouting this sort of shite for the furtherance of his dopey creed.
Unacceptable!
This lady is absolutely correct, these barbaric, primitive yobs, should have been arrested and charged.
I'm disgusted that they were allowed to get away with shutting down this film.
They should all be deported to Islamic countries.
An interesting conversation between a non Muslim 'Tom' and an open-minded Sunni Muslim 'Khalid' about the movie "The Lady of Heaven", and the differences between Shiia and Sunni Muslims.
Tom:
Thank you for the video. As an outsider to Islam I didn't follow all the references but found it interesting none the less.
I was wondering if you could explain to me why it matters whether Umar did this thing or not?
I would go research myself but it seems like such a big topic it's hard to know whether to start.
Thank you in advance and peace be with you.
Tom
Khalid:
Hi Tom, As a Sunni person, I can tell you that the part where Umar attacked Fatima and caused her a miscarriage is a disputable story and I personally discard it. But, as you saw in the video, Umar's threat to burn the house down on Ali and his companion is accepted by both Sunni and Shia.
You asked why it matters whether Umar did this or not. The answer is that even in our books (Sunni), the prophet clearly appointed Ali as his successor as you saw in the Ghadeer Khumm incident. Therefore, as companion of the prophet who believes in him, why does he go against the prophet's and God's wishes and go for forcing others to pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr? To make the point clearer, allow me to give an analogy from Game of Thrones. What happened is like Robert Baratheon's letter where he clearly appointed Ned Stark after him, but Jeoffrey completely usurped the throne and ignored that letter. The only difference is that Jeoffrey killed Ned Stark while Omar did not kill Ali. What I am trying to say here is that Ali should've been the one who ruled after the prophet (at least according to Ghadeer Khumm's sermon which even Sunni muslim scholars cannot deny).
Tom:
thank you so much for taking the time to write that long reply it is helpful and I understand better now where the tension comes from.
Would I be right in thinking that because of this split that the tension comes because one group does not believe the legitimacy of the other as true followers of the prophet? Obviously it's a very broad question but how deep does the sentiment around the disputed succession go, are Sunnis/Shia considered proper/actually Muslims at all by the other group? Also do you think this film is proving controversial to some because it's showing one group's story, and thus the other group are angry about it as they do not believe that story to be true?
Khalid:
You are very welcome Tom!
I am glad to know my answer helped. With regards to your question, this is not the only reason behind the tension between Sunni and Shiia groups. If you ask me to give you the most important reasons, I'd list them as the following:
🔴Shiia don't accept Abu Bakr's rule after the prophet, and I personally agree because as a religious person, it makes no sense to think that God and his prophet left a mess behind to be handled by power-hungry individuals. Id Muslims followed the prophet's orders and let Ali rule, the Muslim world would've been a much better place because he was the most reasonable and wisest person alive after the prophet. Not doing this led to all these tensions and crimes.
🔴Sunni Muslims disagree with Shiaa because Shiia Muslims accuse Ayesha (Abu Bakr's daughter and wife of the prophet) of poisoning the prophet, hence killing him. If you ask me, I'd say I cannot say this really happened, although in Sunni scholars' books like Al-Bukhari. there is an authentic hadith which narrates that when the prophet was sick (prior to his death), Ayesha and Hafsa (Umar's daughter) were forcing the prophet to drink medicine despite the prophet's insistence NOT to give him medicine (I wish I could remember the hadith's number, because to me it really gave me a weird suspicion about Ayesha, although I am Sunni).
🔴Both Sunni and Shiia books mention that Ayesha used to treat the prophet disrespectfully. There are at least 4 different incidents mentioned in Sahih Al-Bukhari, and I find this very disturbing.
🔴Some far-right Shiia believe that Ayesha cheated on the prophet, and this is something that Sunni Muslim take great offense at (The vast majority of Shiia Muslims do not go this far, but they do accuse her of hypocrisy and disrespect of the prophet).
🔴As you might have seen in the movie, some of the prophet's companions (even Umar and Abu Bakr are suspected to be among them) made an attempt at his life and both groups' books do talk about this serious matter. But Sunni Muslims intentionally avoid talking about this because they know that this will surely lead to exposing these companions; companions who are highly revered by Sunni Muslims. I personally never heard of the incident in whole life until I reached the age of 28 and I only heard about it through DulFiqar's channel.
🔴Shiia accuse Abu Bakr of confiscating lady Fatima's garden of Fadaq (which the prophet left her after his death), and to be honest, Sunni books do mention this in authentic hadiths, and because of this, it's highly sensitive to bring this up to Sunni Muslims because they know it is true, but sadly Sunnis barely read their books and they'd just immediately attack you by accusing you of being kaffir or Shiia, etc.
🔴 There are many Sunni Muslims who deem Shiia Muslims as infidels and therefore not muslims and even worthy of being killed, and I find this very disgusting and extremist because Shiia muslims practice the religion just like us and they actually are better muslims than us in many respects. I never saw a Shiia Muslim detonating himself/herself or committing any violence against Sunni muslims or any non-muslim for that matter. I met Shiia muslims who had no issue talking to me, but I rarely saw a Sunni muslim having a conversation with a Shiia muslim because they see them as a threat.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Regarding your second question, to be honest, Sunni muslims are angry just because this movie is telling the untold story that many many Sunni muslims never knew about. Therefore, they really want to keep this buried so that no one knows and questions start being asked. I am not saying the Shiia narrative is totally accurate because no one can determine what happened exactly. To me, the only part that I believe is false in the movie is the breaking of Fatima's rib and burning her house, and there are many Shiia Muslims who believe this to be an exaggerated detail.
Also, Sunni muslims are so closed-minded that they cannot handle perspectives which are different from theirs. I mean, why are Sunni Muslims allowed to impose their own narratives in other movies and others cannot even present their own version? There is a series that presented Umar as a glorious and just caliph but there were no protests by Shiia muslims. Why can't we behave similarly?
Finally, I'd like to end with the most important reason, and that is the fact that Sunni Islam is predicated on these caliphs that the movie disparages (i.e. Abu Bakr and Umar). Therefore, if you prove that these two were not the great companions Sunni Islam portrays them to be, the whole of Sunni legacy falls apart because it thrives on these individuals. But, what can I say, no one is more important than the truth, and if anyone is proven guilty of something, the truth must be told regardless of who they are and how sacred people takes them to be.
I am so sorry for my lengthy reply! I tried to be as comprehensive as I could be, and I hope this answered some of the questions you had in mind.
Yup 👍
So true. Left unmolested, This lot are gonna be serious trouble in the not so distant future. As their numbers increase, so will the risk.
Probably a huge understatement unfortunately; these are a dangerous people and their numbers are increasing dramatically, very soon the numbers will be so great that they will vote their own into positions of government etc and the life that we know will be absolutely screwed. Why hasn't anybody got the balls to tell them to go do one.
@@oldbootneck Won't be long before we have an Iman singing out his prayers before, during, and after Parliamentary sessions.
An interesting conversation between a non Muslim 'Tom' and an open-minded Sunni Muslim 'Khalid' about the movie "The Lady of Heaven", and the differences between Shiia and Sunni Muslims.
Tom:
Thank you for the video. As an outsider to Islam I didn't follow all the references but found it interesting none the less.
I was wondering if you could explain to me why it matters whether Umar did this thing or not?
I would go research myself but it seems like such a big topic it's hard to know whether to start.
Thank you in advance and peace be with you.
Tom
Khalid:
Hi Tom, As a Sunni person, I can tell you that the part where Umar attacked Fatima and caused her a miscarriage is a disputable story and I personally discard it. But, as you saw in the video, Umar's threat to burn the house down on Ali and his companion is accepted by both Sunni and Shia.
You asked why it matters whether Umar did this or not. The answer is that even in our books (Sunni), the prophet clearly appointed Ali as his successor as you saw in the Ghadeer Khumm incident. Therefore, as companion of the prophet who believes in him, why does he go against the prophet's and God's wishes and go for forcing others to pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr? To make the point clearer, allow me to give an analogy from Game of Thrones. What happened is like Robert Baratheon's letter where he clearly appointed Ned Stark after him, but Jeoffrey completely usurped the throne and ignored that letter. The only difference is that Jeoffrey killed Ned Stark while Omar did not kill Ali. What I am trying to say here is that Ali should've been the one who ruled after the prophet (at least according to Ghadeer Khumm's sermon which even Sunni muslim scholars cannot deny).
Tom:
thank you so much for taking the time to write that long reply it is helpful and I understand better now where the tension comes from.
Would I be right in thinking that because of this split that the tension comes because one group does not believe the legitimacy of the other as true followers of the prophet? Obviously it's a very broad question but how deep does the sentiment around the disputed succession go, are Sunnis/Shia considered proper/actually Muslims at all by the other group? Also do you think this film is proving controversial to some because it's showing one group's story, and thus the other group are angry about it as they do not believe that story to be true?
Khalid:
You are very welcome Tom!
I am glad to know my answer helped. With regards to your question, this is not the only reason behind the tension between Sunni and Shiia groups. If you ask me to give you the most important reasons, I'd list them as the following:
🔴Shiia don't accept Abu Bakr's rule after the prophet, and I personally agree because as a religious person, it makes no sense to think that God and his prophet left a mess behind to be handled by power-hungry individuals. Id Muslims followed the prophet's orders and let Ali rule, the Muslim world would've been a much better place because he was the most reasonable and wisest person alive after the prophet. Not doing this led to all these tensions and crimes.
🔴Sunni Muslims disagree with Shiaa because Shiia Muslims accuse Ayesha (Abu Bakr's daughter and wife of the prophet) of poisoning the prophet, hence killing him. If you ask me, I'd say I cannot say this really happened, although in Sunni scholars' books like Al-Bukhari. there is an authentic hadith which narrates that when the prophet was sick (prior to his death), Ayesha and Hafsa (Umar's daughter) were forcing the prophet to drink medicine despite the prophet's insistence NOT to give him medicine (I wish I could remember the hadith's number, because to me it really gave me a weird suspicion about Ayesha, although I am Sunni).
🔴Both Sunni and Shiia books mention that Ayesha used to treat the prophet disrespectfully. There are at least 4 different incidents mentioned in Sahih Al-Bukhari, and I find this very disturbing.
🔴Some far-right Shiia believe that Ayesha cheated on the prophet, and this is something that Sunni Muslim take great offense at (The vast majority of Shiia Muslims do not go this far, but they do accuse her of hypocrisy and disrespect of the prophet).
🔴As you might have seen in the movie, some of the prophet's companions (even Umar and Abu Bakr are suspected to be among them) made an attempt at his life and both groups' books do talk about this serious matter. But Sunni Muslims intentionally avoid talking about this because they know that this will surely lead to exposing these companions; companions who are highly revered by Sunni Muslims. I personally never heard of the incident in whole life until I reached the age of 28 and I only heard about it through DulFiqar's channel.
🔴Shiia accuse Abu Bakr of confiscating lady Fatima's garden of Fadaq (which the prophet left her after his death), and to be honest, Sunni books do mention this in authentic hadiths, and because of this, it's highly sensitive to bring this up to Sunni Muslims because they know it is true, but sadly Sunnis barely read their books and they'd just immediately attack you by accusing you of being kaffir or Shiia, etc.
🔴 There are many Sunni Muslims who deem Shiia Muslims as infidels and therefore not muslims and even worthy of being killed, and I find this very disgusting and extremist because Shiia muslims practice the religion just like us and they actually are better muslims than us in many respects. I never saw a Shiia Muslim detonating himself/herself or committing any violence against Sunni muslims or any non-muslim for that matter. I met Shiia muslims who had no issue talking to me, but I rarely saw a Sunni muslim having a conversation with a Shiia muslim because they see them as a threat.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Regarding your second question, to be honest, Sunni muslims are angry just because this movie is telling the untold story that many many Sunni muslims never knew about. Therefore, they really want to keep this buried so that no one knows and questions start being asked. I am not saying the Shiia narrative is totally accurate because no one can determine what happened exactly. To me, the only part that I believe is false in the movie is the breaking of Fatima's rib and burning her house, and there are many Shiia Muslims who believe this to be an exaggerated detail.
Also, Sunni muslims are so closed-minded that they cannot handle perspectives which are different from theirs. I mean, why are Sunni Muslims allowed to impose their own narratives in other movies and others cannot even present their own version? There is a series that presented Umar as a glorious and just caliph but there were no protests by Shiia muslims. Why can't we behave similarly?
Finally, I'd like to end with the most important reason, and that is the fact that Sunni Islam is predicated on these caliphs that the movie disparages (i.e. Abu Bakr and Umar). Therefore, if you prove that these two were not the great companions Sunni Islam portrays them to be, the whole of Sunni legacy falls apart because it thrives on these individuals. But, what can I say, no one is more important than the truth, and if anyone is proven guilty of something, the truth must be told regardless of who they are and how sacred people takes them to be.
I am so sorry for my lengthy reply! I tried to be as comprehensive as I could be, and I hope this answered some of the questions you had in mind.
Yasmine is absolutely correct.
If I hadn’t been told this was the UK, I would have staked my life on it being in Afghanistan or some similar extremist country.
What the hell is happening to our country?
Collective Government and authority cowardice from councils right up to and including the PM and Home Secretary, is what happened
An interesting conversation between a non Muslim 'Tom' and an open-minded Sunni Muslim 'Khalid' about the movie "The Lady of Heaven", and the differences between Shiia and Sunni Muslims.
Tom:
Thank you for the video. As an outsider to Islam I didn't follow all the references but found it interesting none the less.
I was wondering if you could explain to me why it matters whether Umar did this thing or not?
I would go research myself but it seems like such a big topic it's hard to know whether to start.
Thank you in advance and peace be with you.
Tom
Khalid:
Hi Tom, As a Sunni person, I can tell you that the part where Umar attacked Fatima and caused her a miscarriage is a disputable story and I personally discard it. But, as you saw in the video, Umar's threat to burn the house down on Ali and his companion is accepted by both Sunni and Shia.
You asked why it matters whether Umar did this or not. The answer is that even in our books (Sunni), the prophet clearly appointed Ali as his successor as you saw in the Ghadeer Khumm incident. Therefore, as companion of the prophet who believes in him, why does he go against the prophet's and God's wishes and go for forcing others to pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr? To make the point clearer, allow me to give an analogy from Game of Thrones. What happened is like Robert Baratheon's letter where he clearly appointed Ned Stark after him, but Jeoffrey completely usurped the throne and ignored that letter. The only difference is that Jeoffrey killed Ned Stark while Omar did not kill Ali. What I am trying to say here is that Ali should've been the one who ruled after the prophet (at least according to Ghadeer Khumm's sermon which even Sunni muslim scholars cannot deny).
Tom:
thank you so much for taking the time to write that long reply it is helpful and I understand better now where the tension comes from.
Would I be right in thinking that because of this split that the tension comes because one group does not believe the legitimacy of the other as true followers of the prophet? Obviously it's a very broad question but how deep does the sentiment around the disputed succession go, are Sunnis/Shia considered proper/actually Muslims at all by the other group? Also do you think this film is proving controversial to some because it's showing one group's story, and thus the other group are angry about it as they do not believe that story to be true?
Khalid:
You are very welcome Tom!
I am glad to know my answer helped. With regards to your question, this is not the only reason behind the tension between Sunni and Shiia groups. If you ask me to give you the most important reasons, I'd list them as the following:
🔴Shiia don't accept Abu Bakr's rule after the prophet, and I personally agree because as a religious person, it makes no sense to think that God and his prophet left a mess behind to be handled by power-hungry individuals. Id Muslims followed the prophet's orders and let Ali rule, the Muslim world would've been a much better place because he was the most reasonable and wisest person alive after the prophet. Not doing this led to all these tensions and crimes.
🔴Sunni Muslims disagree with Shiaa because Shiia Muslims accuse Ayesha (Abu Bakr's daughter and wife of the prophet) of poisoning the prophet, hence killing him. If you ask me, I'd say I cannot say this really happened, although in Sunni scholars' books like Al-Bukhari. there is an authentic hadith which narrates that when the prophet was sick (prior to his death), Ayesha and Hafsa (Umar's daughter) were forcing the prophet to drink medicine despite the prophet's insistence NOT to give him medicine (I wish I could remember the hadith's number, because to me it really gave me a weird suspicion about Ayesha, although I am Sunni).
🔴Both Sunni and Shiia books mention that Ayesha used to treat the prophet disrespectfully. There are at least 4 different incidents mentioned in Sahih Al-Bukhari, and I find this very disturbing.
🔴Some far-right Shiia believe that Ayesha cheated on the prophet, and this is something that Sunni Muslim take great offense at (The vast majority of Shiia Muslims do not go this far, but they do accuse her of hypocrisy and disrespect of the prophet).
🔴As you might have seen in the movie, some of the prophet's companions (even Umar and Abu Bakr are suspected to be among them) made an attempt at his life and both groups' books do talk about this serious matter. But Sunni Muslims intentionally avoid talking about this because they know that this will surely lead to exposing these companions; companions who are highly revered by Sunni Muslims. I personally never heard of the incident in whole life until I reached the age of 28 and I only heard about it through DulFiqar's channel.
🔴Shiia accuse Abu Bakr of confiscating lady Fatima's garden of Fadaq (which the prophet left her after his death), and to be honest, Sunni books do mention this in authentic hadiths, and because of this, it's highly sensitive to bring this up to Sunni Muslims because they know it is true, but sadly Sunnis barely read their books and they'd just immediately attack you by accusing you of being kaffir or Shiia, etc.
🔴 There are many Sunni Muslims who deem Shiia Muslims as infidels and therefore not muslims and even worthy of being killed, and I find this very disgusting and extremist because Shiia muslims practice the religion just like us and they actually are better muslims than us in many respects. I never saw a Shiia Muslim detonating himself/herself or committing any violence against Sunni muslims or any non-muslim for that matter. I met Shiia muslims who had no issue talking to me, but I rarely saw a Sunni muslim having a conversation with a Shiia muslim because they see them as a threat.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Regarding your second question, to be honest, Sunni muslims are angry just because this movie is telling the untold story that many many Sunni muslims never knew about. Therefore, they really want to keep this buried so that no one knows and questions start being asked. I am not saying the Shiia narrative is totally accurate because no one can determine what happened exactly. To me, the only part that I believe is false in the movie is the breaking of Fatima's rib and burning her house, and there are many Shiia Muslims who believe this to be an exaggerated detail.
Also, Sunni muslims are so closed-minded that they cannot handle perspectives which are different from theirs. I mean, why are Sunni Muslims allowed to impose their own narratives in other movies and others cannot even present their own version? There is a series that presented Umar as a glorious and just caliph but there were no protests by Shiia muslims. Why can't we behave similarly?
Finally, I'd like to end with the most important reason, and that is the fact that Sunni Islam is predicated on these caliphs that the movie disparages (i.e. Abu Bakr and Umar). Therefore, if you prove that these two were not the great companions Sunni Islam portrays them to be, the whole of Sunni legacy falls apart because it thrives on these individuals. But, what can I say, no one is more important than the truth, and if anyone is proven guilty of something, the truth must be told regardless of who they are and how sacred people takes them to be.
I am so sorry for my lengthy reply! I tried to be as comprehensive as I could be, and I hope this answered some of the questions you had in mind.
This is a must-watch movie. Everyone must watch this Movie.
This is Islamic Shia Movie. Much respect towards Non Muslims for showing love and respect towards Prophet Muhammad and his Daughter Hazrat Fatima. I would like to invite everyone to learn more about Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali and Ahlulbait. The truth lies with Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali. 😎
My advice to Non Muslims is Not to fall into the Propaganda of the deviants who claim to Muslims but are far from Islam such as the Sunnis followers of Abu Bakr, Umar ,Usman and Abu Bakr's daughter Ayesha and Umar's son Obaidullah and Usman's cousin Muawiya who fought against Islam against Prophet Mohammad's successor Hazrat Ali in Battle of Camel ( Jang E Jamal ) and Battle of Siffin ( Jang E Siffin ). These deviants always try to spread their propaganda against Islam this is Shia Islamic Movie about the Daughter of Prophet Mohammad.
This film exposes Falsehood of Sunni Religion of Abu Bakr and Umar with Historical Facts.
The followers of Abu Bakr and Umar can try to spread Propaganda and lies but they can't Hide and Cover Facts and History.
Refrence ( 1. Sahih Muslim - 288a ( Book of Purification )
2. Sahih Muslim - 320 ( Book of Menstruation )
3. Sunnan ibn Majah - 1944 ( Chapter of Marriage )
4. Sunnan Abi Dawood - Hadees - 2061 ( Marriage)
5. Sahih Muslim - 290 ( Book of Purification ).
6. Sahih Bukhari - 7100 ( Afflictions & End of World )
7. Sahih Bukhari - 4915 ( Book 65 )
8. Sahih Bukhari - 325 ( Book 54 - Volume - 4 ).
Everyone can check the references and see for themselves the falsehood of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Truth of Islam.
The Controversy about this Film also shows the Weakness of Western Countries as Years of Western Support for Sunni Dictators and Sunni Regimes and Sunni Tyrants has allowed Sunnis to establish Street Power and Influence in their countries which is finally coming to bite them hard as Sunnis are forcing the west to accept their views and imposing their backward ideology on entire countries.
This Situation was long predicted and expected by Geopolitical Experts who have studied History and know the long and Bloody History of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar.
Europeans are doomed as Society unless they act immediately against Extremist Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar who are hell bent on Violence and Export of Terrorism.
We are being replaced with a new population.
Completely agree with her on the right... try going to an Islamic country and doing what they do. You'd be lucky in you lived to tell the tale!!
But with a name like that, does she belong to the same religion?
@@marcellogenesi6390 You do realise people are are unique and multidimensional. Someone’s name or background doesn’t mean they’ll act a certain way.
@@hawx1212 Well I never suggested that she is going to to do acts of violence, but many follower of her religion do; Boko haram, 50 Christian worshiper killed in a church in Nigeria, ISIS , Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood who like to blow up churches preferably when full, Al Shebab. I am not including some multidimensional individual drank on the same religion, killing civilian at random. Feel free to correct me
@@marcellogenesi6390 She is a brave ex Muslim whose husband was a terrorist . Google her and you will see her story. And she did not change race when she left islam. So anti islamic comments are not racist.
@@marcellogenesi6390There are plenty of ex Muslims (much more then other religions 🤔🤔)
Why are they here. Please explain! Why are they here if they don’t like or ”approve” western culture or freedom? WHY?
For the British tax payer to fund their lifestyle. It's a well known fact that the vast majority of them have never done a days work in their lives!
To eradicate western culture. Through the womb, if they don’t succeed by other means.
They are here to take over.
Everthing in western culture is Haram to them, yet they were involved in selling alcohol,drugs, betting,prostitution, they even sell bacon, f..cking HYPOCRISY at it's worse.
They need to be kicked out now
She's not wrong. We should take the same action with anyone using what has become to be known as woke tactics. I genuinely want to see the film, it looks good and I'm open to looking through the lens at different cultures, countries ect. It's a disgrace this is being cancelled, even worse when islamophobia is being used when it's made by a Muslim!
Time to start standing up to bullies.
The BBC should air the film in prime time.
Yes..agree..never give in for their demand..these people are lunatics..
@@truckerfromreno All tv stations should.
The movie exposes the roots of ISIS (Abu Bakr and Umar). The reason Sunnis are mad is because they see Abu Bakr and Umar as the best humans. Rather, they were the founding fathers of Terrorism, they killed the prophet and his daughter peace be upon them, and introduced this new terrorist version of Islam, known as Sunni Islam.
@@truckerfromreno STOP shedding crocodile tears and applying double standards.
The United States, the United Kingdom, and NATO are the world's evils/devils and scum.
They
have destroyed and murdered millions of people in Iraq,
Afghanistan, Lebanon, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Palestine, and elsewhere.
The first 30 seconds of this could also refer to the Left and the LGBT mob.
And the Far Right
@@paulschnyder938 But where are the _'far right'_ and who are they?,_ I keep hearing about them but never see them only the likes of Antifa, the Left, BLM, Islam, Gay parades and and Trans rallies but the way some talk there are huge Nazi rallies taking place in our cities every other week.
I'm a white Christian does that make me _Far Right?_ as it seems that some are so far left that anyone near centre is _Far Right'_ to them. The Azov Battalion in Ukraine, now I'd agree that was _Far Right_ but I don't see anything like that in Olde Blighty.
@@karlmunford7000 STOP shedding crocodile tears and applying double standards.
The United States, the United Kingdom, and NATO are the world's evils/devils and scum.
They
have destroyed and murdered millions of people in Iraq,
Afghanistan, Lebanon, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Palestine, and elsewhere.
If it was any other group of protesters, Police would be kneeling on their necks cuffing them behind their backs. The Law of the Land, - and the application of the laws - have to apply to everybody and not just a select few.
To threaten innocent people so people can’t see it there is something they really don’t want you to see.
They don't want people to see that their idols Abu Bakr and Umar are the founding fathers of Terrorism.
Exactly
If the police quite literally arrested and charged the little girls parents for racist hate crimes when trying to report their 11 year old little girls had been gangraped. What chance do you have of them doing anything about them threatening to suicide attack teenage cinema staff?
British people should "delete" them from their country.
you have a good point that is a bit messed up but I'll take it. Its more like if some loves bill cosbey and you tell him that bill is a criminal and then he starts to act like an animal and try to kill you.
An youtube censoring any reply has it doesn't go along with thr narrative...the laws av aloud the country 2 go 2 shit
This is a must-watch movie. Everyone must watch this Movie.
This is Islamic Shia Movie. Much respect towards Non Muslims for showing love and respect towards Prophet Muhammad and his Daughter Hazrat Fatima. I would like to invite everyone to learn more about Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali and Ahlulbait. The truth lies with Prophet Muhammad and his Successor Hazrat Ali. 😎
My advice to Non Muslims is Not to fall into the Propaganda of the deviants who claim to Muslims but are far from Islam such as the Sunnis followers of Abu Bakr, Umar ,Usman and Abu Bakr's daughter Ayesha and Umar's son Obaidullah and Usman's cousin Muawiya who fought against Islam against Prophet Mohammad's successor Hazrat Ali in Battle of Camel ( Jang E Jamal ) and Battle of Siffin ( Jang E Siffin ). These deviants always try to spread their propaganda against Islam this is Shia Islamic Movie about the Daughter of Prophet Mohammad.
This film exposes Falsehood of Sunni Religion of Abu Bakr and Umar with Historical Facts.
The followers of Abu Bakr and Umar can try to spread Propaganda and lies but they can't Hide and Cover Facts and History.
Refrence ( 1. Sahih Muslim - 288a ( Book of Purification )
2. Sahih Muslim - 320 ( Book of Menstruation )
3. Sunnan ibn Majah - 1944 ( Chapter of Marriage )
4. Sunnan Abi Dawood - Hadees - 2061 ( Marriage)
5. Sahih Muslim - 290 ( Book of Purification ).
6. Sahih Bukhari - 7100 ( Afflictions & End of World )
7. Sahih Bukhari - 4915 ( Book 65 )
8. Sahih Bukhari - 325 ( Book 54 - Volume - 4 ).
Everyone can check the references and see for themselves the falsehood of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Truth of Islam.
The Controversy about this Film also shows the Weakness of Western Countries as Years of Western Support for Sunni Dictators and Sunni Regimes and Sunni Tyrants has allowed Sunnis to establish Street Power and Influence in their countries which is finally coming to bite them hard as Sunnis are forcing the west to accept their views and imposing their backward ideology on entire countries.
This Situation was long predicted and expected by Geopolitical Experts who have studied History and know the long and Bloody History of Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar.
Europeans are doomed as Society unless they act immediately against Extremist Sunni religion of Abu Bakr and Umar who are hell bent on Violence and Export of Terrorism.
This is what they do in Islamic states and it will only get worse here
This is a muslim country in all but name muslim Mayor and muslim MPs waiting for the PMs job
Certainly this sort of protesting shouldn't happen in the UK where this country is generous offer the majority of these protesters a place to live and be grateful.
Give nothing to make them beg for food like they do in their home country!!!
Shame on the cinemas shame on the inadequacy of our police. We pay them to do what? These people were threatening others, and they were allowed. We really do not want Muslim versus Christian, do we?if the police do not do their job, I fear the worst.
An interesting conversation between a non Muslim 'Tom' and an open-minded Sunni Muslim 'Khalid' about the movie "The Lady of Heaven", and the differences between Shiia and Sunni Muslims.
Tom:
Thank you for the video. As an outsider to Islam I didn't follow all the references but found it interesting none the less.
I was wondering if you could explain to me why it matters whether Umar did this thing or not?
I would go research myself but it seems like such a big topic it's hard to know whether to start.
Thank you in advance and peace be with you.
Tom
Khalid:
Hi Tom, As a Sunni person, I can tell you that the part where Umar attacked Fatima and caused her a miscarriage is a disputable story and I personally discard it. But, as you saw in the video, Umar's threat to burn the house down on Ali and his companion is accepted by both Sunni and Shia.
You asked why it matters whether Umar did this or not. The answer is that even in our books (Sunni), the prophet clearly appointed Ali as his successor as you saw in the Ghadeer Khumm incident. Therefore, as companion of the prophet who believes in him, why does he go against the prophet's and God's wishes and go for forcing others to pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr? To make the point clearer, allow me to give an analogy from Game of Thrones. What happened is like Robert Baratheon's letter where he clearly appointed Ned Stark after him, but Jeoffrey completely usurped the throne and ignored that letter. The only difference is that Jeoffrey killed Ned Stark while Omar did not kill Ali. What I am trying to say here is that Ali should've been the one who ruled after the prophet (at least according to Ghadeer Khumm's sermon which even Sunni muslim scholars cannot deny).
Tom:
thank you so much for taking the time to write that long reply it is helpful and I understand better now where the tension comes from.
Would I be right in thinking that because of this split that the tension comes because one group does not believe the legitimacy of the other as true followers of the prophet? Obviously it's a very broad question but how deep does the sentiment around the disputed succession go, are Sunnis/Shia considered proper/actually Muslims at all by the other group? Also do you think this film is proving controversial to some because it's showing one group's story, and thus the other group are angry about it as they do not believe that story to be true?
Khalid:
You are very welcome Tom!
I am glad to know my answer helped. With regards to your question, this is not the only reason behind the tension between Sunni and Shiia groups. If you ask me to give you the most important reasons, I'd list them as the following:
🔴Shiia don't accept Abu Bakr's rule after the prophet, and I personally agree because as a religious person, it makes no sense to think that God and his prophet left a mess behind to be handled by power-hungry individuals. Id Muslims followed the prophet's orders and let Ali rule, the Muslim world would've been a much better place because he was the most reasonable and wisest person alive after the prophet. Not doing this led to all these tensions and crimes.
🔴Sunni Muslims disagree with Shiaa because Shiia Muslims accuse Ayesha (Abu Bakr's daughter and wife of the prophet) of poisoning the prophet, hence killing him. If you ask me, I'd say I cannot say this really happened, although in Sunni scholars' books like Al-Bukhari. there is an authentic hadith which narrates that when the prophet was sick (prior to his death), Ayesha and Hafsa (Umar's daughter) were forcing the prophet to drink medicine despite the prophet's insistence NOT to give him medicine (I wish I could remember the hadith's number, because to me it really gave me a weird suspicion about Ayesha, although I am Sunni).
🔴Both Sunni and Shiia books mention that Ayesha used to treat the prophet disrespectfully. There are at least 4 different incidents mentioned in Sahih Al-Bukhari, and I find this very disturbing.
🔴Some far-right Shiia believe that Ayesha cheated on the prophet, and this is something that Sunni Muslim take great offense at (The vast majority of Shiia Muslims do not go this far, but they do accuse her of hypocrisy and disrespect of the prophet).
🔴As you might have seen in the movie, some of the prophet's companions (even Umar and Abu Bakr are suspected to be among them) made an attempt at his life and both groups' books do talk about this serious matter. But Sunni Muslims intentionally avoid talking about this because they know that this will surely lead to exposing these companions; companions who are highly revered by Sunni Muslims. I personally never heard of the incident in whole life until I reached the age of 28 and I only heard about it through DulFiqar's channel.
🔴Shiia accuse Abu Bakr of confiscating lady Fatima's garden of Fadaq (which the prophet left her after his death), and to be honest, Sunni books do mention this in authentic hadiths, and because of this, it's highly sensitive to bring this up to Sunni Muslims because they know it is true, but sadly Sunnis barely read their books and they'd just immediately attack you by accusing you of being kaffir or Shiia, etc.
🔴 There are many Sunni Muslims who deem Shiia Muslims as infidels and therefore not muslims and even worthy of being killed, and I find this very disgusting and extremist because Shiia muslims practice the religion just like us and they actually are better muslims than us in many respects. I never saw a Shiia Muslim detonating himself/herself or committing any violence against Sunni muslims or any non-muslim for that matter. I met Shiia muslims who had no issue talking to me, but I rarely saw a Sunni muslim having a conversation with a Shiia muslim because they see them as a threat.
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Regarding your second question, to be honest, Sunni muslims are angry just because this movie is telling the untold story that many many Sunni muslims never knew about. Therefore, they really want to keep this buried so that no one knows and questions start being asked. I am not saying the Shiia narrative is totally accurate because no one can determine what happened exactly. To me, the only part that I believe is false in the movie is the breaking of Fatima's rib and burning her house, and there are many Shiia Muslims who believe this to be an exaggerated detail.
Also, Sunni muslims are so closed-minded that they cannot handle perspectives which are different from theirs. I mean, why are Sunni Muslims allowed to impose their own narratives in other movies and others cannot even present their own version? There is a series that presented Umar as a glorious and just caliph but there were no protests by Shiia muslims. Why can't we behave similarly?
Finally, I'd like to end with the most important reason, and that is the fact that Sunni Islam is predicated on these caliphs that the movie disparages (i.e. Abu Bakr and Umar). Therefore, if you prove that these two were not the great companions Sunni Islam portrays them to be, the whole of Sunni legacy falls apart because it thrives on these individuals. But, what can I say, no one is more important than the truth, and if anyone is proven guilty of something, the truth must be told regardless of who they are and how sacred people takes them to be.
I am so sorry for my lengthy reply! I tried to be as comprehensive as I could be, and I hope this answered some of the questions you had in mind.
How can you have a protest about a film you haven't seen, bit pathetic if you ask me .
That’s the best way to put it simply pathetic. Remember they don’t want this seen for a reason first it will expose their terroristic views and number 2 it will cause some people to finally research and see the truth and then it will hurt their pockets.
You think they've read the satanic verses?
Or that they can even read?
They love to be offended. Any excuse.
Zero tolerance for these thugs, the world has change so change with it to safeguard our UK standards, take a stand authorities
It's the Sunni who are saying it's wrong ,The Shia Muslims would disagree .
It's a century old fight and not going away
Why is it here?
British Law and policies should not be dictated to by ancient grievances!
@@andrewelliott4436 tony blair decided he could solve it for them, thats why.
hes still haunting peoples tvs grinning like a loon asking for the r ing of power back.
@@deadprivacy Not the Ring of Power!
1400 years not a century
society should try to grow a backbone.
These are terrorists, so they stood against the movie, Our Lady of Heaven, because it revealed the truth of their terrorist Islam
A storm is coming from the West...
Has come from the East to the West you mean....
@@robertjones3613 No. Thunder clouds are gathering in the West. The storm has not yet begun. Weak men confuse patience for weakness & tolerance for cowardice. 2000 years of Western history & culture can not be ignored....no matter how hard woke politicians try.
I will not judge the movie until I watch it
That news clip with Muslim protesters shows how the whole of Britain will be like in twenty years time.
I want to see that movie.
They should be putting on for free on big screens for free, all over the uk.
The movie exposes the roots of ISIS (Abu Bakr and Umar). The reason Sunnis are mad is because they see Abu Bakr and Umar as the best humans. Rather, they were the founding fathers of Terrorism, they killed the prophet and his daughter peace be upon them, and introduced this new terrorist version of Islam, known as Sunni Islam.
Yes 🙌
Inch by inch
@cineworld You can get your strength back, keep your audience and your brand around the world, by recasting The Lady of Heaven in your cinemas, instead of the days that have been canceled, you will grow in the eyes of the British people because you support freedom!
Lol you rafidis have apparently successfully brainwashed the British public who are ignorant of your reality. Am just so shocked of your hypocricy and dishonesty. Lol yasser habib calls for the beheading of shia scholars who disagree with him in iraq and even praised the burnin of mosques in iraq yet here in the uk he is being presented as someone who supports freedom of expression when this concept is ALIEN to him and his group who constantly call for the killing of scholars who disagree with them openly and praise mosque burners. Crazy lol
She has just described Islam
To a T
SHE BASICALLY DESCRIBED CHRISTIANITY HINDUISM AND HIJACKED ISLAM
Nothing like democracy and the freedom of speech, perhaps we need a tax on long beards
I agree tax them shouty mouths too
These people are so disgusting just look at them all this over a movie my god. No wonder they made this movie to show us what they are like and where they came from.
spineless government 👈
these people should clear off to some other country
Yup 👍
Muslim percentage of population in UK ,4 percent so why is this possible ,it must be enabled by the police local government and the UK government , ask yourself WHY
Yes Clive, just wait until it reaches 15-20%, if people think it's bad now, they aint seen nothing yet.
You ignored the Sunni protests against the Ahmediyya mosque in Birmingham and even the murder of the Ahmediyya in Glasgow by a Sunni who drove all the way from Bradford to stab him to death.
If you know anything about the makers of this film you would know why the British media is protecting them and supporting their propaganda. This exact shia group is support by the British intelligence service to cause division and cause sectarian war in Muslim countries. Go to yasser habib Chanel called “fadak” see how he openly calling to the beheading of shia scholars who disagree with him and how he has a video praising his mindless followers who burned the mosques and Islamic centres of those shia scholars he disagree with. It’s so shameful the British media and ppl are supporting these kinds of lunatics in the name of freedom of expression bcos freedom of expression is an alien concept to yasser habib and his group.
@@Aurora-lm5ns yes, it's not because Islam is intolerant and oppressive it's because of this particular group, and that particular group. Pretty much any particular group you want to act like a child and cry about.
Wahhabis*
sunnis are not like that.
@@muhammadataeiazimi2578 no, Islam is intolerant and oppressive full stop
We don’t have blasphemy laws in this country last time I looked🙄
Slippery slope we’re on.
No one at work then?
Of course not, can barely speak English let alone be arsed to get a job. It’s time we got rid of the lot of them
Come on, you know that the R o P brigade and the words "employment" and "working for a living" go together like oil and water!
Taxis and takeaways. They don't really do much in the day so leaves them free to protest and intimidate people going about their jobs. Feel for Cineworld workers..
They get paid to turn up and shout every one down bullies
@@aa-up4sf don’t forget the drugs that brings them a few £ in .
anyone wondering why theyre doing this is not to 'defend their religon' theyre called sunnis and have one motive, that motive is to quiet the Shia sect from telling the true story and the real history of what happened after the prophets death.
Exactly
if you want sharia law I hear Saudi or Pakistan is a good place to be , or be a hypocrite and stay here
Thank you 🙏
I stand with (the lady of heaven )film
We Shia Muslims all stand with the lady of heaven
I want to see the movie
Sandra watch the movie and see the message and the truth they are trying to tell and then see how these idiots are acting and you’ll make sense of the entire thing. Once I watched it and they show how this terrorism started I realized these groups are using the religion as a way to control and hurt people. They did it to their own prophet and his family. The movie truly tells the truth and the reason I was able to see that is why are all these protests happening over a movie then I realized oh they are being exposed.
I'm shocked not content fighting with everyone fighting amongst themselves
We as a shia muslims don't want to fight anybody we just made a movie explaining our point of view and thats all . We love all people and just want to live in peace .
@@alihussein3034 tell the hordes on the streets that
@@alihussein3034 Should have made the film in Iran,see how that works for you.
@@keithdavies1395
I agree with you sir .
i live in iraq and i don't agree with the iranian politics and behavior.
@@keithdavies1395 same with Madonna etc women's rights my fat arse they should go n bang on for all of the 30 secs they'd get away with it over there only reason they do it here virtue signal no consequence. Well there be pride marches n taking the knee in Qatar...
Never back down to a cult ffs
Apparently, they're in charge of British culture now....
They don't want their dirty secrets revealed!
Exactly 👌
1948 and the division of India comes to mind. UK towns and cities next?
The UK suffered for hundreds of years from divisions in what is essentially the same faith, now the immigrants have brought it back.
I'm not sure arrogant or selfish is a term I would use.....
Murderous?
I stand by The Lady of Heaven!✊❤
If the Sunnis don’t like the movie they don’t need to watch it but it gives them no right to tell others not to watch it
We are doomed
These most of the Sunnies don't tolerate anything ie the reason we have so much problem.
It only happens here because the powers that be let it . People flocking here for a better way of life, but dragging there ways with them . Not much longer to go before our country is just the same as there’s . Just glad I’m nearer the end rather then the beginning of my life
"Get the police involved" yes where were they?
We Shiites love this movie and we have the right to show it in cinemas. I hope everyone will watch it
Those vandals and Wahhabis who impose their views on the people must be arrested. Who are you to prevent him from revealing your truth?
Its the thin end of a very nasty wedge as far as I can see.
The UK politicians and police should grow a spine. No balls
The right to peacefully protest is great however, to give in to religious demands will just reward their objections and we will get more of it !
police are to scared
Great publicity for the moving. Looking forward to seeing it.
The movie exposes the roots of ISIS (Abu Bakr and Umar). The reason Sunnis are mad is because they see Abu Bakr and Umar as the best humans. Rather, they were the founding fathers of Terrorism, they killed the prophet and his daughter peace be upon them, and introduced this new terrorist version of Islam, known as Sunni Islam.
GO RWANDA 🇷🇼!!!
Thank you to Mr. Yasser Al Habib for this beautiful and wonderful movie
These people are a threat to this country, on many levels ,give them an inch they take a mile ,trust them at your own peril
Nightmare.
ISLAM - Actually means " submit or Surrender - lets have right just for once!
Get with the program!!!
The manager agreed because he said his staff where not safe.
That’s sad that a movie theater staff is not safe can you imagine that
Can't expect the Police to get involved in this matter..I mean it is Pride 🌈 month after all, so they've obviously got their hand full without having to deal with intimidatiion and death threats. !
Over a movie. The future sounds fun
Can't upset the religion of peace
Drive through this lot 🇬🇧
what country is this ? I remember being told about WW2 that we came through for our way of life, our NHS, our rights, and of course being a Christian country, so no idea where this is being filmed eh
This is the enrichment diversity brings to Britain, I can't think of a better time to be alive in Britain, the natives, we just love this stuff, I can't wait for the Cost Guard to bring more of them here, so our nation and people can benefit from all the great positives they bring!!! hurray for multiculturalism!!
it's more like the British government brings to British
only things the British government throws out of Britain is the English constitution and common law that protects England when people realizes that we can get together
English of all colours going by our own laws can you imagine such a thing ...
@@Geo65582 At this point I can only imagine, I hope there is enough fight in the English still to defend what's rightfully theirs.
Two cheers for ironic sarcasm at its finest...
@@steviestone1668 I wish I didn't have to put any of it Stevie, but we are where we are.
@@Geo65582 There's no such thing as the 'English of all colours'.
Poor Little Britain, the mad nullahs have taken over.
The UK lost to the middle east decades ago. There's no going back now.
All of this was predicted by many scholars over the years and no one in power took action.
R.I.P. United Kingdom.
The police are busy still painting rainbows
The lady on your channel is well said and correctly addressed the issue...
Let's have national watch whatever you want film day, films that poke fun at any subject so we can all have a laugh and tolerate each other. The alternative is much less appealing.
If you watch this movie, you will understand why those thugs getting crazy.
Bottom line Sunni muslims wants to dictate what the people eat or watch or think. As a Shia we have been fighting this tyranny since 1000 years ago, but the whole world looking with one eye.
Fight your battles outside UK
@@briancox9357 That the foolish thing I have ever heard … Well, your country will be infested by those ISIS supporters if you don’t fight this battle with us.
Isn't the UK always proud of being the most civilized and free country??? Where is the freedom to ban this movie??
It is shameful to see a country ancient in civilization and progress submit like cowardly to these terrorists...
@@baqerismael thats the sad part, UK is taking the ISIS supporters side and stepping over the Shia side. And some fools tells you to go take the battle outside the country instead of defending the freedom in UK with the Shia.
@@haythamalkasimy
The Shia will remain victorious as long as they victorious Fatima, peace be upon her,
Ex-Muslim here. I left Islam 6 years ago. Non-violence and pacifism should be the core of any true religion, which isn't the case with Islam.
One of my main reasons for me leaving was Islam allows bloodshed and killing of animals in the name of halal, something i couldn't agree with from my then religion
This is Sunni Islam, not Shia Islam. this is why we want the world to know that there is a real Islam that contradicts the Islam of the Sunnis for this reason they are trying to prevent a Shia movie.
You have to watch Rafida plus channel
Well said Yasmine!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Yeah they don't like the film. We get it. Personally I don't care, but we get it.
Britain is finished, you are now a cross between, Islam, and another state of Russia. Where is King Arthur, Robin Hood, what a shame.
❤🇬🇧👦
👏🤣👏🤣
Where are all the GINGERMAN
this should show whole world
I am with the lady of heaven
The movie Our Lady of Paradise is a very beautiful and wonderful movie and a true story
Protest all you want but keep them away from cinema staff, what are the police thinking, this racially restricting attitude has to stop, NOW.
I keep saying it I wonder what these people are going to rename our country
What the lady said is true, they should be arrested
Shocked the sjw not rights havent called this patriarchal white supremacy.
Sensible lady).
Really such a scary people look to there faces , its really scary 😳.
The truth' prevail
WELL SAID young lady. Thank you!
so now its between the secular and religious Muslims
No, this lady is wrong. The proper way to deal with with this threatening behavoiur is to have a very large police presence and arrest those who refuse to disperse and behave properly. Short prison sentences and Criminal Behaviour Orders limiting the numbers who can associate and whom they can associate with should follow. Fundamental Sunni Islam cannot be banned like the National Front but if the will is there we can prevent it "Mopbbing" people. The will is not there for fear of being labelled racist or Islamophobic.
I wanna watch it