Ran across this recently. I have most of the same equipment you list here. I'd recommend ditching the apple headphones though for just a pair of Samsung or generics. No matter what it is, the blinding white of Apples stuff draws the eye. Even better would be if you can use a Bluetooth headset, although then you run the risk of someone interrupting the Bluetooth signal. Also, for the radio antenna. You could use a longer antenna if you used a cable to extend it. you could run it up the front or rear strap of the ready rig. Love seeing vid's like this. Always bring a few good ideas to make things better.
This is a fairly big set up for “low vis” normally we use a radio in the back pocket or on our belts, the PTT is either remote (wireless) or tucked in our sleeve, headsets were wireless as well. Edit: for my budget guys, there are Bluetooth plug ins for more discreet setups- downside if people are close by, you could be picked up by them if someone’s doing counter surveillance but if you’re running a baofeng for major covert ops then you’re already compromised from the get go, there’s also inductive headsets for really low key
Bluetooth headset is not low key, only people that use those anymore are old guys and private security, this setup is more “low profile” for a civilian doing goon shit
Using a smartphone at all completely invalidates the point of encryption. The military uses smartphones, but they are purpose made and mostly gutted out to make them not the weak link in using the radio for transmission.
Found this as a suggested video. Excellent content. I've been a sub to the channel, but missed this since I'm recently subbed. I have almost this exact setup and use the D878 with AES256, same parts and chest rig too. Basically this validated everything I've been doing.
Check out the Sonim XP10 that pairs up nicely with the Go Tenna. You can run everything off of that with the PTT built into the phone. So you can bluetooth your audio and then attach your PTT button to the side of the phone. You can also encrypt all the transmissions. Great video... gave me some more ideas. Much appreciated.
Not sure what connector your Hytera uses, but I’ll bet a bluetooth PTT adapter exists. The added benefit of some noise cancelling earbuds is useful in this application. I use this with my Yaesu- PRYME BLU Bluetooth Adapter for Vertex / Yaesu x42 Screw In Connector.
@@MojaveRepeater even better! I’m definitely in that “intermediate” category, so I haven’t graduated to DMR and 256-bit encryption capable HTs yet, but I’m sure yours have lots of useful features used with some earbuds. Again, great channel! So needed in this community.
You could always use a flexible SignalStick antenna and get max performance out of your Baofeng. Signal Stuff makes good antennas for HTs that you could hide pretty easily.
How well do you find that stubby antenna to work? I've heard they basically don't work. I currently have a telescoping antenna for my lowvis kit because when when folded it's at least 4.5in and gets decent gain, but can be extended if needed. I think the Unobtanium Gear Dank Robber is honestly better than the Spiritus Bank Robber for the features you get, but especially the LV (low vis) split front version. I'd love to see more kit from Covert Arms reviewed and more stuff on covert comms
The stubby is okay. This one is actually not too bad especially in close proximity to teammates. I've heard great things about the Dank Robber and some friends also run that kit! I'll definitely do some more covert comms content in the future
Check out the TYT MD-UV390+ it has AES256 encryption capability, that same 2 pin connector, 10w power capable, usb c recharging, and is ip67 rated (can be submerged in 1 meter of water for 30 minutes) It's VHF/ UHF DMR/ Analog capable.
Thinking Arcteryx is high speed is a koolaid flavor too many people in the firearms and defense industries have drank for far too long 😂. I've seen too many glazers switch to arcteryx chalk bags for their dump pouches because cool guy A was seen on the range using one as such. I'm beginning to rant off topic, I'll go do push ups now lol
Octane Wireless also sells wearable panel antennas, any reason why you couldn't use those and conceal in pockets of jacket? Particularly the shoulder pockets
I’m sure they’d work. They’re most likely high gain applications so you’ll need to be mindful of where you’re pointing, whereas this gooseneck is relatively omnidirectional
Is the gotenna pro not sold to civilians? I go to their site but it seems they want to know what group wants to purchase them. It also seems that you need a license as well?
The goTennas are only available for commercial resale - meaning that any LLC or other type of business can purchase! This is because you need to get an FCC Part 90 license, which is limited to commercial needs. Anyone can start an LLC!
I have the ear piece adapter. The volume is so loud. I have the radio turned down a lot and the audio from the ear piece is so loud. Did you have that problem?
I had that issue too, you gotta keep the volume super low and use the 3.5 female to 3.5 male short cord that comes with the earpiece adapter, but it works. If you get a volume lock piece it’ll keep the volume from bumping up higher inadvertently.
@@Olywa17 it might be, but I found with apple ear buds if you use the short cable it makes the popping a lot less when you turn the radio on and lowers the volume just a bit.
Don't use ham radio. If you're in the US, use license free FRS or MURS radios. I can give you 3 reasons I'd lean toward MURS unless spending the majority of time indoors. 1) Any handheld radio will do poorly with its antenna inside a metal cage. Unlike FRS radios, you can attach an external(roof mount) antenna to a MURS handheld radio and turn it into a vehicle borne mobile radio. 2) MURS frequencies have almost no users on them other than Walmart but it seems like every road crew and 10 year old kid has FRS radios. You'll more than likely have MURS channels all to yourself. 3) They're dead simple with just 5 preset channels so it's impossible for any of the users to stumble on to restricted frequencies by futzing with the radio. FRS does have a theoretical advantage over MURS inside building with lots of interior walls(not in open auditoriums), but the built in negative gain antennas kill any real difference.
Fatal-ish flaw of GMRS Licenses... They leave it up to you, independently, to protect yourself from uhf rf radiation. The shorter ribs at the top of chest, and collarbone, can get very close to resonance, and may not cause pain, but rf and any water molecules is the two bit formula of a microwave's ability to cook food. Not talking down to anybody, just looking out for other enthusiasts. No bones in legs are resonant, unless you are very short in stature, just imagine a 1/4 wave, per frequency (150mhz 1.5'/450mhz .5') and keep antenna away from that. Skull and Pelvis have several loops, and are best avoided. 👍
Definitely something you should consider but RF emits only non-ionizing radiation. While microwaves have the ability to heat water molecules, VHF/UHF does not typically exhibit this property at the power outputs we utilize in communications. Thank you for your feedback!
@@MojaveRepeater I have never heard of the ionization factor, and a walkie talkie will not cook ramen noodles, but I mean more as a cummulative thing, for security, municipal, ect staff that run on-person radios, for their shift or missions, over span of employment. I will look into the ionizing type rf theory.
The only thing sus is those glasses. That's what makes me think yr sus, out in public. cos who would wear those with that uloutfit unless they're a cop 😂
No one knows I’m talking on my baofeng right now
🤣 make it into the meme
young soomer
😂
Ran across this recently. I have most of the same equipment you list here. I'd recommend ditching the apple headphones though for just a pair of Samsung or generics. No matter what it is, the blinding white of Apples stuff draws the eye. Even better would be if you can use a Bluetooth headset, although then you run the risk of someone interrupting the Bluetooth signal.
Also, for the radio antenna. You could use a longer antenna if you used a cable to extend it. you could run it up the front or rear strap of the ready rig.
Love seeing vid's like this. Always bring a few good ideas to make things better.
They draw the eye but are so “civilian” and common that they draw the attention that you’re a normal non threat actually.
This is a fairly big set up for “low vis” normally we use a radio in the back pocket or on our belts, the PTT is either remote (wireless) or tucked in our sleeve, headsets were wireless as well.
Edit: for my budget guys, there are Bluetooth plug ins for more discreet setups- downside if people are close by, you could be picked up by them if someone’s doing counter surveillance but if you’re running a baofeng for major covert ops then you’re already compromised from the get go, there’s also inductive headsets for really low key
Radio in back pocket is anything, but low vis.
@@jhalscott depends on the radio
Bluetooth headset is not low key, only people that use those anymore are old guys and private security, this setup is more “low profile” for a civilian doing goon shit
Could you do a warm weather version of this? Maybe even with short sleeves.
I was gonna comment about running encrypted comms to be “covert” but thanks for making that distinction
Using a smartphone at all completely invalidates the point of encryption. The military uses smartphones, but they are purpose made and mostly gutted out to make them not the weak link in using the radio for transmission.
Found this as a suggested video. Excellent content. I've been a sub to the channel, but missed this since I'm recently subbed. I have almost this exact setup and use the D878 with AES256, same parts and chest rig too. Basically this validated everything I've been doing.
It'd be cool to come up with some kind of game using this stuff as a way of training useful skills.
Stay tuned, I think you’ll like what I have in the works as far as training goes
Have you tried the SignalStick antenna. Super flexible. You can tie it to your harness.
Yes! The signal stick is good. I’m personally partial to the CAATAIL Antennas. They are awesome flexible antennas designed for duty kit!
Check out the Sonim XP10 that pairs up nicely with the Go Tenna. You can run everything off of that with the PTT built into the phone. So you can bluetooth your audio and then attach your PTT button to the side of the phone. You can also encrypt all the transmissions. Great video... gave me some more ideas. Much appreciated.
Not sure what connector your Hytera uses, but I’ll bet a bluetooth PTT adapter exists. The added benefit of some noise cancelling earbuds is useful in this application. I use this with my Yaesu- PRYME BLU Bluetooth Adapter for Vertex / Yaesu x42 Screw In Connector.
Some of the Hyteras natively support Bluetooth accessories which is nice! Very good point
@@MojaveRepeater even better! I’m definitely in that “intermediate” category, so I haven’t graduated to DMR and 256-bit encryption capable HTs yet, but I’m sure yours have lots of useful features used with some earbuds.
Again, great channel! So needed in this community.
Excelente video muy buena información..
Atak video would be great, I'm looking to learn how you guys use it
También necesito un video para utilizar bien ATAK
You could always use a flexible SignalStick antenna and get max performance out of your Baofeng. Signal Stuff makes good antennas for HTs that you could hide pretty easily.
Look for a hytera 2 pin adapter for the pd7 series. Im not sure if they exist for the pd6 series but that setup would be 🔥🔥🔥
How well do you find that stubby antenna to work? I've heard they basically don't work. I currently have a telescoping antenna for my lowvis kit because when when folded it's at least 4.5in and gets decent gain, but can be extended if needed. I think the Unobtanium Gear Dank Robber is honestly better than the Spiritus Bank Robber for the features you get, but especially the LV (low vis) split front version.
I'd love to see more kit from Covert Arms reviewed and more stuff on covert comms
The stubby is okay. This one is actually not too bad especially in close proximity to teammates. I've heard great things about the Dank Robber and some friends also run that kit! I'll definitely do some more covert comms content in the future
Check out the TYT MD-UV390+ it has AES256 encryption capability, that same 2 pin connector, 10w power capable, usb c recharging, and is ip67 rated (can be submerged in 1 meter of water for 30 minutes) It's VHF/ UHF DMR/ Analog capable.
Great tips and setup! The only problem is it's tough for heavier guys (like me) to conceal this way. Nonetheless, very good video!
Thanks! When there’s a will there’s a way. Work on your kit and jacket until you find something that works for you!
I feel ya man. I'm working on getting in shape but man is it a tough road
Good content and good points, love to see it!
Thank you!
That stubby's inefficiency limits your range, but also your risk of interception. Your radio is small, but a TinySA is smaller.
Excellent video Alex! Actually learned alot and want to test this out! Also digging your haircut Alex! Also what's the song in the intro?
Thank you!! The song is XO Tour Lif3 but it’s the Brasstracks version
So dope! Great vid, thanks for the knowledge.
Thanks for watching!
I was looking at the 878 to purchase but want something very reliable and durable. Maybe not as expensive as the Hytera radios. What do you suggest
Fantastic video
Thanks!
Why use a stubby antenna for concealment when you can get better performance and better concealability out of a Caatail antenna?
Wearable antenna from radio made easy
Any idea where they moved the bank robber chest rig or any great lookalikes? It’s not up on their website anymore
Could you carry a kelltec CP33 concealed (modified as a "cheek pistol") by sticking it in the chest rig + magazines this way?
Good Job
Would you recommend the anytone over the icom ID-51A?
Is Gotenna Pro purchasible from outside of the USA?
Yes please contact goTenna they have teams who can handle international purchases for certain opportunities
Damn, boy got THICK. Is that comms in your jacket or are you just overcompensating?
Thinking Arcteryx is high speed is a koolaid flavor too many people in the firearms and defense industries have drank for far too long 😂. I've seen too many glazers switch to arcteryx chalk bags for their dump pouches because cool guy A was seen on the range using one as such. I'm beginning to rant off topic, I'll go do push ups now lol
Could this setup work with a discus and Bluetooth headphones?
Octane Wireless also sells wearable panel antennas, any reason why you couldn't use those and conceal in pockets of jacket? Particularly the shoulder pockets
I’m sure they’d work. They’re most likely high gain applications so you’ll need to be mindful of where you’re pointing, whereas this gooseneck is relatively omnidirectional
More concerned with running out of snacks than ammo. 😂
Gotenna is such an awesome concept but they don't have a civilian option anymore.
Is the gotenna pro not sold to civilians? I go to their site but it seems they want to know what group wants to purchase them. It also seems that you need a license as well?
The goTennas are only available for commercial resale - meaning that any LLC or other type of business can purchase! This is because you need to get an FCC Part 90 license, which is limited to commercial needs. Anyone can start an LLC!
Is the encryption on the anytone/alinco truly aes256
Can’t speak for the Alinco, but the Anytone D878 has true AES-256
Depending on environment, the ultra observant person may notice that your iPhone isn’t connected to the apple headphones.
Great video!
Excellent point! Definitely something to consider and be very careful about
Excelente hombre creí que solo yo había notado eso 😅 ..
Where'd you get the push to talk button? Adapter?
www.covert-arms.com
UV-5G for the Mojave Lunchbox? Have you tried it?
Yes that would work. I use the TID because of the higher power it offers
@@MojaveRepeater is the tid a dedicated GMRS radio and how many watts does it transmit? Price point? Very interested in buying one!
I have the ear piece adapter. The volume is so loud. I have the radio turned down a lot and the audio from the ear piece is so loud. Did you have that problem?
I had that issue too, you gotta keep the volume super low and use the 3.5 female to 3.5 male short cord that comes with the earpiece adapter, but it works. If you get a volume lock piece it’ll keep the volume from bumping up higher inadvertently.
@@thomashoran3079 I thought the extra cord was a reverse if you couldn’t hear anything.
@@Olywa17 it might be, but I found with apple ear buds if you use the short cable it makes the popping a lot less when you turn the radio on and lowers the volume just a bit.
@@thomashoran3079 sweet thanks. I’ll give it a go.
So to make it dumb dumb proof you should package and sell the entire adapters and headphones without radio. 😊
Are you running atak on your phone
Yes
Stupid Question: How can one use a ham radio amongst a practice tactical team when you need a license to push the button?
Don't use ham radio. If you're in the US, use license free FRS or MURS radios. I can give you 3 reasons I'd lean toward MURS unless spending the majority of time indoors.
1) Any handheld radio will do poorly with its antenna inside a metal cage. Unlike FRS radios, you can attach an external(roof mount) antenna to a MURS handheld radio and turn it into a vehicle borne mobile radio.
2) MURS frequencies have almost no users on them other than Walmart but it seems like every road crew and 10 year old kid has FRS radios. You'll more than likely have MURS channels all to yourself.
3) They're dead simple with just 5 preset channels so it's impossible for any of the users to stumble on to restricted frequencies by futzing with the radio.
FRS does have a theoretical advantage over MURS inside building with lots of interior walls(not in open auditoriums), but the built in negative gain antennas kill any real difference.
Man you hoot..
Covert arms website won't pull up.
01:40 Do that in public at your peril 😬
Love this set up. I do some EP side work
You’re concealing ar mags but still need to conceal the ar itself
@@SvenSlugsen if you didn’t see it in the video I’d say I did a good job
My whole self is high vis:(
Fatal-ish flaw of GMRS Licenses...
They leave it up to you, independently, to protect yourself from uhf rf radiation. The shorter ribs at the top of chest, and collarbone, can get very close to resonance, and may not cause pain, but rf and any water molecules is the two bit formula of a microwave's ability to cook food.
Not talking down to anybody, just looking out for other enthusiasts. No bones in legs are resonant, unless you are very short in stature, just imagine a 1/4 wave, per frequency (150mhz 1.5'/450mhz .5') and keep antenna away from that. Skull and Pelvis have several loops, and are best avoided.
👍
Definitely something you should consider but RF emits only non-ionizing radiation. While microwaves have the ability to heat water molecules, VHF/UHF does not typically exhibit this property at the power outputs we utilize in communications. Thank you for your feedback!
@@MojaveRepeater I have never heard of the ionization factor, and a walkie talkie will not cook ramen noodles, but I mean more as a cummulative thing, for security, municipal, ect staff that run on-person radios, for their shift or missions, over span of employment. I will look into the ionizing type rf theory.
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The only thing sus is those glasses. That's what makes me think yr sus, out in public. cos who would wear those with that uloutfit unless they're a cop 😂
LARPing with radios will get you rekt.
Lmao - glad your kit looks like a real operator tho!!!!!