Correct me if I’m wrong but back when Trent Horn was responding to Vatican Catholic, he said that you couldn’t call the Pope a heretic or call any Vatican 2 priests heretics unless they’ve been officially labeled one through a council. How come u guys are calling James Martin a heretic when it hasn’t been made official? Double standards
@@rogerbrooks842 If your friend asked you to pray for him, would you tell him, "there is only one mediator between God and Man"? If you were visited by an angel, I'm sure you would not say, "you are not to be mediator, as Jesus is the only mediator between God and humanity!". I don't think Paul meant that we are never to get spiritual guidance/intercession/whatever spiritual roles fufilled from anyone who isn't Jesus. He meant that humanity's ne mediator to God is Christ, that humanity is wholly dependent on Christ's mediation to get to God. He goes on to say that Christ ransomed himself for us, suggesting that Jesus's perfect sacrifice for our sins is this mediation. We becomes children of God through Christ, we gain inheritance through Him (and not through the Saints, Angels, or anyone else. This is the mediation Paul is speaking of, not intercessory prayer. There is a lot to suggest in the New Testament that we should be helping each other as we are members of the body of Christ. "We, though many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another” (Romans 12:5). If we are the same body, helping each other is necessary, which is why we ask for help from the Saints and even each other on earth.
It doesn't matter when the term "transubstantiation" became used in any language. What's important is that the concept is blatantly in the Bible. We could still be without a term for it today and it would still not change the fact that bread and wine change to Jesus' body and blood because He said it at the last supper. In other parts of the Gospels, the Apostles ask Jesus to clarify things like parables and He does. But with the Last Supper, they do not ask for clarification because they know they are the seeing the fulfillment of Jesus' prophecy when He said "Unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood..." They know without a doubt that this is not a symbol. And when Jesus says, "Do this in memory of me," they know He's telling them to perform this supper again and again for the world.
_"It doesn't matter when the term "transubstantiation" became used in any language. What's important is that the concept is blatantly in the Bible."_ LOL, source? How do you explain this: "Whoever gnaws my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink."
@@twitherspoon8954 You are proving my point. The apostles asked how they could eat His flesh and blood. Instead of saying it would be a symbol, He doubles down. Then at the Last Supper, they finally understand.
@@ToddJambon _"The apostles asked how they could eat His flesh and blood."_ Source? Should cannibalism be worshiped or condemned? Should ritual human sacrifice be worshiped or condemned?
100% support for what you do Trent. We need accountability in the Church. If the clergy won't address these types of issues themselves, the laity such as yourself bringing this to light and refuting it in the correct spirit is what is needed to fix the evil corruption in the Church.
You might have heard the old Joke, with all the changes to the mass over the years what’s the only thing that never changes during a Jesuits mass? The bread and wine.
As an ex Protestant currently doing RCIA, I'd say this says more about the failings of the Church than particular priests. How did they get through seminary? Sigh!
Congratulations & welcome. I can possibly give 2 reasons 1)possibly he just went thru seminary giving all the right answers & never questioned or disagreed before ordination 2) it's possible that he was completely faithful & the world, along with the evil one led him to question his faith. We may never know why he's trying to mislead & divide our church. But I'm more convinced they all need our prayers. They give us so much, our prayers need to be given for them. Welcome into our church, we are blessed to have you, it will become home to you. And you'll be in my prayers
I would ask Fr. Reese that if he doesn’t understand terms like “saving souls,” “God’s grace,” and “transubstantiation,” then why did he become a priest? Those things were never explained to him in seminary?
I read an older apologetic work which discussed how Protestants and others have problems believing the Eucharistic doctrines. The writer said "Yes, it is very difficult for us to understand, but I thought to myself "Why should it not be?" At that moment my doubts began to fade. If God could do all the things that the Church says that He did then why should He not make the Eucharist the Body and Blood of Christ? It's a very simple insight, but it works for me. Why shouldn't God do it? He is able to do anything, so why not?
That ending quote! That's Cardinal Ercole Consalvi, 1st Secretary of State of Pope Pius VII, who allegedly said that. Napoleon; "We will destroy your Church" (and BOY he did try!) Consalvi: "Majesty, it has been 20 centuries that we ourselves have been trying to do this and we did not manage to..." Cardinal Ettore Consalvi, apart from this funny anevdote, is a very interesting figure to dive ourselves in; he had to govern the State when the Pope was deported and the State under the revolution. I think his best quote, written in his Memories, and that gives us exactly what kind of man he was, is this: "The Revolution had changed everything and destroyed much. From this evil it was possible, in restoring things, to derive good. However wise the institutions of papal government were, there is no doubt, however, that some had degenerated from their earliest origins; others had been mixed, altered, corrupted; others no longer suited the times, new ideas, new uses. The very effects of the Revolution and its spirit, which had not ceased with its cessation, demanded considerations and considerations, for the very advantage of the government that was to be re-established, as well as of the governed." A man unshrinkable by history and adversities.
Bishop Schwaderlapp of Cologne told us the anecdote of Napoleon on a meeting shortly after the first meetings of the synodal way took place when an austrian priest told him he was worried about the possible way this all could take.
I can't understand how this priest, James Martin and others of the same ideologies became priests in the first place. There seems to be a huge problem in the Jesuits with regard to formation as per Church Dogma and Scripture. It's like science is now Doctrine, instead of Faith in Revelation!
It's important to remember that truth is not a democracy. No matter what private opinions are publicly expressed by this priest or that friar, the truth is safeguarded infallibly in the Church itself, in the deposit of faith. Even when the Pope speaks on an issue, it is important to distinguish whether he is speaking infallibly, on matters essential to the faith, or simply sharing his personal thoughts and opinions. The best defense against falsehood is not necessarily censorship of every controversial voice (although that would be very effective), but to be firmly grounded in knowledge of the truth.
I think transsubstantiation is actually pretty easy to understand. It's all around us. A banknote is paper transsubstantiated into money. The physical form is paper, the substance is money. A book is a pile of paper transsubstantiated into a story. The physical form is a pile of paper, the substance is a story. A cd is a little plastic disc transsubstantiated into music. The physical form is a little plastic disc, the substance is music. In fact, we are used to far more abstract phenomena, like bank accounts and streamed music where there is no physical form at all. Nobody denies the existence of those things. The actual physical reality of a banknote is just a piece of printed paper. But at the same time it really _is_ money. The substance of it is far more important than the physical form (printed paper). The situation with the body and blood of Christ is not fundamentally different (in my understanding). Physically they are still bread and wine. But way more important is the substance: the bread really _is_ the body of Christ, the wine really _is_ the blood of Christ.
Thank you. As long as the Holy Spirit will exist, and the good news is that He is eternal because God is eternal, the beloved church of Christ will continue to exist, regardlless of internal sufferings within the Church. The chosen apostles were not perfect,some even betrayed our Saviour and yet the Word spread over all surfaces of our planet. Let us pray for our imperfect priests all over the world,that they ,might be faithful to the doctrine of our beautiful faith. For the rest, let us not worry, as Saint JP II said. In the end ,love,truth and beauty will always prevail and the merciful Christ will protect his flock. Greetings to all from Brussels
Trent: My understanding is that philosophy is the "handmaiden" of theology not its master. Yes, how many of us really are able to buy into ancient Aristotelian philosophival categories like "substance' and "accidents" to explain what we really mean when we talk about Christ's real presence in the Eucharist? When it comes to explaining "reality" we live in a world of atoms, quarks and vibrating waves of energy. I just recently returned to the church and noticed thst in the creed "of one being with the Father" has been changed back to "consubstantial" with the Father. That really helps ?
I think it has a lot to do with a couple of things: first and foremost, Jesuit are highly involved in higher education, which has grown progressively more leftist, secular and socialist since the 1960s. And second but lesser so, the Jesuit themselves take vows of poverty and communal lifestyles where they do not own anything. Sounds rather socialist in nature...They were often in conflict with the right-wing dictators the US propped up in South America during the cold War in the name of fighting communism. Even in the 90s there was a lot of anti-American sentiment over things like the School of Americas at the Jesuit college I attended.
The thing is over yonder here in the East like in India and what not the Jesuits remain extremely conservative and are known for being extremely strict. There is some localised issue over west and well we know what that issue is, leftism and its growth
I only just realised while listening that there's no difference in possibility/plausibility/mystery/understanding between believing that God became a man or that God became bread or wine. I never heard that put to a protestant apologist in any of the debates I listened to after becoming a believer myself.
In our Catholic church, the logic in things that are true, not only requires mentallyty or simply logical answers, it does requires the "True Faith in the word of the Lord..."Faith", no simply logic, but Spiritual faith "in our Catholic Church, which is fulfill with all the Sacraments and for us to be part in the body of Christ" (Hebrews 11,3-5) Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. 4) By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. 5) By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
Confessional Lutherans: The Eucharist really is the Body and Blood of Christ. Catholics: The Eucharist really is the Body and Blood of Christ. Some Jesuits... "Is it?" Confessional Lutherans and Catholics: "Stop it."
Dear Trent. I've noticed something perculiar among quite a few Catholic friends/relatives of mine. There is some aspect of the teachings of our Faith that really irritates them (or rubs them the wrong way). This seems to be the case here. I believe we should be humble enough to accept all the teachings of our Faith whether or not we fully understand them or not 🙏
Dear all, how can we give ears to Fr R? We have thousands of holy and genuine Priests and Bishops. Why give the opportunity to heresy and stupidity mixed with Arrogance to grab our time and Minds? This is my last time on this show-chat. Shame on us!
I agree with most of this but Reese does have one important point: “What worked in the 13th century will not work today. If [Aquinas] were alive today, he would not use Aristotelianism because nobody grasps it in the 21st century.” Contra Mr Horn, “Accidents” are not simply appearances in scholasticism. Moreover, neo-scholastics deny Pope Paul VI’s Encyclical Eucharisticum Mysticum which calls the Real Presence “physical”: Cf .: th-cam.com/video/d5mjC_XmteY/w-d-xo.html
In a Lutheran. We believe it's the body and blood of Christ. We don't really explain it further than the words of Christ. However, it was very surprising to hear than many Catholics don't even accept that basic fact.
As a non-Catholic, I wonder whether priests like this are ever defrocked. What good is a pope if he acts more like a pushover grandpa than a shepherd? What good is unity if it’s at the expense of blatant heresy?
If theses priests didn't believe the dogma of the Church, why were they ordained? Who ordained them? But the Good Lord perhaps allow this to happen so that The True Teaching of the Church becomes even more Luminous.
Has anyone argued that the bread and wine are the body and blood of Christ only during Communion or the Mass? Can there be good arguments for this? The Catholic doctrine is clear that they remain Christ's body and blood after consecration, right?
In 1989 in a Chapel I witnessed coming from the Tabernacle a visible all encompassing blue light when invited it left and came around and entered my chest. Hence I felt the most wonderful feeling of an overwhelming Peace and Joy that I had never felt before nor since. Two weeks ago on April fifth of this year. I saw it again for approximately 1
So how is it the taste and texture are not transformed yet the thought of it changed ,isnt that wishfull thinking,ive always been very intune with the representation by the bread and wine to be in remembrance of what Jesus had done for us, I know many say to if we could really turn these into his blood and flesh bringing it down from Heaven we would be repeating that was done and "FINISHED" over 2000k years ago over and over and over, making it endless instead of in rememberance. I can see both points yet given all the context of the rcc im leaning towards "in remberance"
How can we teach the faith with modern words from science and philosophy? This is not an easy task. Thomas and Aristotle are part of the Church's history. But this will not be the end of theology, philosophy and the struggle to find appropriate words.
You are allowed to not use the word “transubstantiation”, you still have to believe the idea of it. And the idea is not just some vague “real presence”. We Orthodox also say that the Eucharist is an unexplainable mystery and do not use Latin vocabulary. But the belief regarding what happens as it pertains to the real presence is identical to the one held by the Roman communion. Tommy Reese’s demagoguery should not be taken seriously to any extent.
At 5:40, Father Reese's take isn't too far from sound theology. The principal effect and the reason for the Eucharist is the change it brings about in us. Christ did not institute the Eucharist that he may be adored. If he only wanted to be adored, why ascend to heaven? He instituted the Eucharist that we have a foretaste of heaven, being united with him Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity, and therefore, being united with His heavenly Father, whom he reunited with. Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, prior to being elected pope, makes a very similar point in his book "The Spirit of the Liturgy." Now sound theology doesn't state that the Eucharist exists that we can further earthly justice, in an external sense. That may be an effect. Instead, it exists so that we may be further in the virtue of justice, and all other virtues. Now we can choose how to respond to this. We can disregard such a great gift, or we can respond with love and gratitude at the salvific mystery that is the person of Christ. One is just, and the other isn't. And so one does what is good and natural. But that does not mean but that the Eucharist exists to be adored. That is secondary.
And while Reese's remarks at 7:30 are definitely heretical, I am uncertain as to how not every Nominalist theologian, cough, cough, Franciscans, doesn't hold the same view. Once again, I can't understand how the Church didn't listen to the Dominicans and label Nominalism heresy.
Trent thanks for doing what Comrade Arturo Sosa, Superior of the Jesuits, won't do to expose Jimmy Martin. St Ignatius of Loyola deserves better from modern Jesuits.
Terribly heinous explanation of Our Lords most blessed Sacramento of Love. God have mercy on this man he automatic calypso excommunicated from .Church until he repents!
As a new Catholic, I am confused as to why a letter is not submitted to a bishop or higher on the corrupt priests so they can either be ejected or purged of corruption.
People very well may have sent letters. But a priest's bishop doesn't have to respond. They might have pastoral reasons for not acting yet. Who knows? It's also possible that this priest's congregation is more liberal and never sent letters.
Welcome to the Catholic Church my friend! Most of the bishops are incompetent and the fact we've lasted 2,000 years in spite of the incompetence of leadership is evidence of the truth of our claims. The fact is, the majority of bishops are administrators and don't want to ruffle the feathers of the culture. They think you can serve both God and Mammon or be neutral in the struggle between them. Tldr we're happy you're here - now get ready to bang your head against a wall until Christ calls you home!
Thanks for everything you do here, Trent, and for reminding the Internet that my Order, like the Church, is very big, and a few troubling Jesuits do not characterize the entire order. Great and charitable analysis of Fr. Reese's comments.
@@stephenmcguire7342 you'd have to ask his provincial. I honestly have no idea why there isn't a greater effort to admonish and correct my brothers when they speak contrary to the faith or inadvertently cause confusion.
@@FrJacobSJ "Inadvertently" with all due respect Fr. no one is that naive. Could their refusal indicate at least a tacit approval if not all out support of their heresies and approval of depravity?
@@stephenmcguire7342 I will admit I try to focus on what's right in front of me where.i am ministering, and so I tend to ignore or simply be unaware of what most of my brothers are up to online. I also know that it is easy to be misunderstood, and so I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and understand what people say in the most charitable light. However, by watching Trent's analysis of Fr. Reese's perspective, I did not mean to suggest that his words are "inadvertent" but rather it does appear he holds a view quite contrary to the faith and it's frustrating that it's allowed to persist without retraction or correction.
Remember the Our Father uses the word ἐπιούσιον bread (Supersubstantial/suprasubstantial ), it is a word which appears only twice in the Bible and is a made up word in Koine Greek. It doesn't mean daily bread. There was the Holy Bread lachem haPanim - the bread of the presence aka as the Bread of the Face in the inner sanctuary of the First Temple. Only the priests could eat it, Three times a year the priests would take the holy bread out raise it up for the jewish pilgrims to see and say "Behold G_ds love for you". Eucharist is our manna, our holy bread and each time we participate in Mass and consume it we return to that moment of redemption. It is not a wheel of time. It is a spiral. We return to the same point but at a higher level by our continued observance. This is Jacob’s spiracle ladder to heaven.
I'm not a Roman Catholic but I want to voice my view in the distinction of and rejection regarding the view that the "Eucharist is Manna or Holy Bread," because the sacrament is preceded by the words of Jesus, spoken from His living self to eat bread in His remembrance, so with that distinction cleared out it would mean that Jesus Himself directly, and in a vacuum (or in the most technical and precise way) so to speak is the living bread or manna of heaven, the sacrament of the Eucharist is merely a portion or subset of what it means to eat the bread of heavevn or in other words _to obey Jesus._ Considering Jesus' words are about obeying Him, or in other words to partake of His Divine nature by conforming one's self to it, a person eats the living bread from heaven every time they genuinely turn away from sin at the moment of temptation as one example. Jesus Himself, the Living word is what sanctifies any sort of sacrament. Jesus precedes the sacrament of communion not the other way around and neither are the two on equal grounds, for no matter how much the latter in it's nature is necessary and reflective of the former, what I say is true because eating the bread of heaven is a title of knowing God, and the pharisees, had they been born in the Christian age would be probably some of the best communion/mass service attenders and yet they would still not go to heaven.
@@someperson2789 Jesus gave out 2 types of bread at the Last Supper. One type of bread Jesus gave to Judas which is a metaphor for the bread of “spiritual death”, this bread was unholy and unblessed and identified Judas as His traitor. He then gave out another type of Bread to the Apostles with the words: "Take, eat this is MY BODY." He took, blessed, broke and gave this blessed holy bread to His Apostles that if they eat it they will have eternal life. John 13: 26-30. Those who eat the first type of bread (unblessed/unholy) don’t believe Jesus in John 6 when He said “those who eat my flesh and drink my blood abide in me and I abide in them.” They are like those who turned their backs on Jesus and left because they couldn’t accept that teaching about the Eucharist. Some in John 6 waited for Jesus to correct/clarify Himself but He doesn't, in fact He doubles down on what He said. They/protestants couldn't make the connection to the Manna (Bread from Heaven) or the connection to the Bread of the Presence (Bread of the Face) which was kept in the holy of holies in Solomons Temple. PESACH: consume the lamb/flat bread in memory of the exodus/escape from slavery EUCHARIST: consume the lamb/bread in memory of the escape from slavery of sin The Todah was the one of the most important and popular sacrifices of ancient Jews. Ancient Rabbinic dictum states: “In the coming Messianic age all sacrifices will end but the thanks- offering of the todah will never cease." The todah sacrifice is what links and underlies the Passover and the Mass. Introduced in the Old Testament, the todah-in contrast to the yearly celebration of Passover-was a continual sacrifice of thanks and praise to G_d for His saving actions: A todah sacrifice would be offered by someone whose life had been delivered from great peril. Just as the Passover was a sacrifice in memory of when the Jewish people had been saved from death during their exile in Egypt, so too, the Mass is a continual sacrifice of thanksgiving for our salvation. This is why every hour of every day there is a Mass being celebrated in a town/city somewhere in the world for thanksgiving to Christ for His sacrifice and saving us .
But Saint Ignatius founded the Society of Jesus to fight for the truths of the faith! SAINT FAUSTINA'S PRAYER FOR THE HOLY CHURCH AND PRIESTS O my Jesus, I beg Thee on behalf of the whole Church: Grant it love and the light of Thy Spirit, and give power to the words of priests so that hardened hearts might be brought to repentance and return to Thee, O Lord. Lord, give us holy priests; Thou Thyself maintain them in holiness. O Divine and Great High Priest, may the power of Thy mercy accompany them everywhere and protect them from the devil's traps and snares which are continually being set for the souls of priests. May the power of Thy mercy, O Lord, shatter and bring to naught all that might tarnish the sanctity of priests, for Thou canst do all things. (Diary 1052)
Trent, your comments at the end is exactly what I say when I tell people why I am Catholic. The fact that in all the corruptness the Eucharist and the foundations of the church still stand says a lot.
that you exist dear Horn Trent is a great comfort to me in this confused time in the church and the world. thank God you exist! Anton, Catholic priest from Croatia
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Thank you Trent. As others mention in the comments, we shouldn't bash anyone in the Church, but I appreciate you pointing out these ideas such as Fr. Reese's which are highly problematic. The danger of not publicly challenging ideas like his is that it can lead Catholics astray, because they like what Fr. Reese says, hence they adopt that viewpoint and don't even consider the errancy.
Maybe I'm not smart enough to fully understand his argument, but a simple answer seems to be if you don't believe what catholics are teaching, Don't be Catholic! Become an Episcopal priest. It sounds like you will fit in very comfortably there.
Why doesn’t the magisterium corrects the errors flooding the Church? Don’t they realize how scandalous all of this is? Do they not see the flock leaving the church?
@@redhawkmillenium So what use is the promise the the Church will never fail if that means it will survive with scandal and millions leaving every year?
Leaving the Church because of scandal is stupid. So long as human beings are involved in any capacity the Church will never be impeccable. But that doesn't matter because that is not what Jesus promised. He promised that He would lead the Church to all truth (exercise of infallibilty) not that it would be without sin (impeccable).
Some are, not necessarily on a national level, but a Diocesan one. Many Dioceses are creating new initiatives to make an increase of a return to faith for members of the Church. Many heresies have been countered this way with increased education as well. This also seems to be a problem seen more in countries considered first world where we take many things for granted, causing us to become lazy and look for problems where there isn't. This is seen in the increase of heretical views by dissenters who wish to discredit our Church and increase confusion. Throughout history, our Church has encountered many heresies like Arianism, and despite terrible misteps we have won out. The Church will ultimately get over this as we have in the past.
Thank you for this video! I remember seeing that most recent article a little while ago. I was surprised to see an article that seemed to be tiptoeing heresy on a Catholic publication (I know it's not as rare as you would hope, but still). I saw the little picture of the author had a collar on so I thought it must have been an Episcopalian writing a guest-piece on the site. Then I realized he's a Jesuit. Really sucks for the Jesuits to have these bad witnesses. Pray for them. Many of the Jesuit saints throughout their history are still my heroes and I love when I get to speak to Jesuits. They are usually such smart and kind people.
THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD "is a great last day that He will save man" (God returned and brought the age to the end. When the Age of Law His name was Jehovah, and in the Age of Grace and redemption the name Jesus represented God. But in this Last Day His name is Almighty God, taken He this name belongs to His disposition) Almighty God said "GOD'S WORK throughout His ADMINISTRATION is VERY CLEAR. The AGE of GRACE is the age of grace, and the LAST DAY is the last day. THERE are CLEAR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN each AGE, because in each age there is His work will represent that age. To FULFILL the WORK in the LAST DAYS, there MUST be OBEDIENCE, JUDGMENT, PUNISHMENT, HATE, and DESTRUCTION to END the AGE. The LAST DAYS are, REFERRING to the FINAL AGE. In the final age, won't He end the age? And ONLY through CHASTISEMENT and JUDGMENT CAN the AGE be BROUGHT to an END." ☀️ "In fact, in the AGE of LAW, JEHOVAH is the NAME of GOD, and in the AGE of GRACE, the NAME JESUS represents GOD. In the LAST DAYS, His NAME will be ALMIGHTY GOD----the Almighty. 🙏 And He USES His POWER to GUIDE MAN, CONQUER MAN, GAIN MAN, and ULTIMATELY, END the AGE," I have ONCE been RECOGNIZED as JEHOVAH. I have ALSO been CALLED the MESSIAH, sometimes PEOPLE CALLED Me JESUS, SAVIOR because they LOVED and RESPECTED Me. But NOW I AM NO LONGER the JEHOVAH or JESUS that PEOPLE have KNOWN in PAST TIMES-----I AM the GOD who RETURNS in the LAST DAYS, the ONE who WILL BRING in the TIME of the END. ☀️ I AM the GOD who RISE from the ENDS of the WORLD, I AM FULL of MY DISPOSITION and FULL of AUTHORITY, HONOR, and GLORY. PEOPLE have NEVER PARTAKEN of Me, NEVER KNOWN Me and ALWAYS IGNORANT of My DISPOSITION. FROM the CREATION of the WORLD UNTIL NOW, NO ONE has KNOWN Me. This is the GOD who APPEARS to MAN in the LAST DAYS but is HIDDEN from PEOPLE. ☀️ HE DWELLS with MEN, TRUE and BURNING FIRE, FULL of POWER and OVERFLOWING AUTHORITY. There is NOT one PERSON or THING that MY WORDS will NOT JUDGE, and there is not ONE PERSON or THING that WILL NOT be PURIFIED BY the FIRE. IN the END all NATIONS will be BLESSED because of My WORDS, and will ALSO be BROKEN into PIECES because of My WORDS. In this WAY all PEOPLE DURING the LAST DAYS will SEE that I AM the SAVIOR who has RETURNED. I AM the ALMIGHTY GOD who will CONQUER ALL mankind. 🙏 And for MAN I was ONCE the SIN OFFERING, BUT in the LAST DAYS I WILL be the FLAMES of the SUN that will BURN EVERYTHING, as WELL as the SUN of RIGHTEOUSNESS that will REVEAL EVERYTHING. SUCH is My WORK in the LAST DAYS. I TOOK this NAME and I OWN this DISPOSITION, so that ALL PEOPLE may SEE that I AM a RIGHTEOUS GOD, and I AM the BURNING SUN and the BURNING FIRE. It is so that ALL WILL WORSHIP ME, the ONLY TRUE GOD. And so they see My TRUE FACE: I AM NOT JUST the GOD of the ISRAELITES, and I AM NOT JUST the REDEEMER-----I AM the GOD of ALL CREATION in the WHOLE SKY and EARTH and SEA." 🙏 From " The WORD Appears in the Flesh " 🌸 holy book. His Kingdom sent down from heaven standing in the air or TH-cam! fulfillment of "In the LAST DAY, the mountain on which Jehovah's Temple stands will stand out above all the mountains. All nations will flock to it." (Isaiah 2:2) 💐 "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD" 💐 fulfillment of (Matthew 16:18) The Lord Jesus said to Peter, "And I say to you, you are Peter, UPON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH, that even the power of death will not prevail against it." "I will write the name of my God, the name of the city of my God, which will come down from heaven from My God.....And I will also write My NEW NAME." (Revelation 3:12) "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be laid upon his shoulder: and his NAME SHALL BE CALLED Wonderful, Counselor, ALMIGHTY GOD, Everlasting FATHER, Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6) I heard a loud voice from the throne, "Now, the house of God is with the people! They will dwell with them, and they will be his people. They will be with God forever (and he will be their God). "They WILL SEE His FACE, and HIS NAME WILL BE WRITTEN ON THEIR FOREHEAD." (Revelation 21:3 and 22:4)
Your “empty ritual” to me is spot on. It is my belief that these progressive Catholics are creating a situation for someone that rejects Catholic moral teaching to decide if they want to be Catholic and have to actually do things like go to Mass or not be a Catholic and not have to go about our sacred traditions and requirements (like going to Mass). Why should someone be Catholic if they can follow the same moral code outside a religion? This to me is why we have lost so many people at church. These progressives, woke, leftist or however they would be identified as have effectively made the Mass an “empty ritual” by teaching people that they do not have to abide by the moral requirements to say partake in the Eucharist. They have made the Eucharist an empty ritual.
How they can even begin to say that, as the first was celebrated by Christ himself, in which the sacrifice at Golgotha was made present, baffles me. You are literally at the foot of the cross when you're at mass.
I'm not sure I understand your comment properly. People could follow some moral code without being Catholic even before now, regardless of Catholics believing in Eucharistic presence. Such teachings hardly affect that. They have more impact on people, who want to be Catholic, but are unsure about doctrine or are having doubts and are thus more easily led astray.
Not believing transubstantiation of the Host pretty much undermines the Prayers of the Priest over the Host in every Mass. Anyhow thank God Eucharistic Miracles pretty much undermine what Father Reese said on his own unbelief, he doesnt believe.He pretty much undermines the Priests ordination and Place in the Church. Saints, Clergy and Laiety have experienced real Eucharistic Miracles. His personal dissbelief Spoken even in Books and litrature should never be taken as the Churches Solid Belief..Afterall time in Adoration and Mass has had such profound meaning to so many.Listening to Sister Briege Mckenna who spends two Hours in Adoration daily she says she's been mocked even by Catholics who don't understand what she does and yet she has been an Host of so many of God's Miracles. To not believe in Transubstantiation is not to to believe in Jesus Presence in Our Churches..After all he who takes my body and blood has eternal life
For, in the first place, when you assemble as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you; and I partly believe it, for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized. (1 Corinthians 11: 18-19)
As someone who was himself educated by the Jesuits, I am amazed that Fr. Reese consistently commits several logical fallacies, which I was taught by my (older and better) Jesuit teachers to avoid. His favorite one seems to be the "Argument from Ignorance," which fallaciously claims that just because I or others ("Modern Man") do not understand a term or argument (or simply have not heard of it), it must be wrong, meaningless or unimportant. As Trent puts it so well, it is literally Fr. Reese's job to know, clarify and communicate the meaning of these terms, which have been well-defined throughout Church history. But my guess is the Fr. Reese does understand what these terms and teachings mean, but pretends not to understand them because he doesn't like or believe them.
Fr. Reese is not Catholic at all...St John Newman said and I quote " Either you believe all or deny all Catholic teachings...to deny just one is to deny all...
Jimmy Martin sounds like a Protestant lol… Some Protestants make these bizarre interpretations of the Bible or life to validate their own opinions and views-instead of sticking to dogma.
@@drjanitor3747 Jesus said to them, “I assure you: Tax collectors and prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God before you!'' Are these tax collectors and prostitutes Catholics?
The fact they wouldn't defrock and excommunicate such figures speaks volumes Do we honestly think Paul would stand by and let a priest speak like that? You can't believe in the real presence without believing in transubstantiation
Of course you can. Lutherans do. I have never heard a single satisfying explanation of transubstantiation other than, “It’s a mystery.” The real and actual presence of Jesus doesn’t depend in the least on anything materially or immaterially happening to the bread and wine.
@@jefftravilla The priest calls the holy spirit down to the altar and enters the host and the wine. The holy spirit infuses the host and the wine and it becomes the body and blood. You could not enter a single church: eastern, Oriental, or Catholic; prior to the reformation, and not hear that the Lord's presence in the Eucharist is real. This is not a teaching unique to Catholicism. This is an authentic Christian teaching.
@@Chile2011 I never said Jesus lied, but the passage you refer to in John is pretty clear when Jesus says that the flesh means nothing. It becomes more and more obvious that he is referring to spiritual substance. This passage from John is an event that happened distinctly separate from the last supper. He wasn’t referring to atonement on the cross that we commemorate with communion. Jesus uses metaphor all throughout the gospel and we never see other uses of metaphor as “lying.” When he says he’s a “door,” we don’t assume he means he’s a literal door. The way he speaks in the last supper is exactly consistent with the same metaphorical language patterns he has used throughout the gospel. “Do this in remembrance of me” is the command. He is obviously creating symbolism. If he wanted us to think of it as eating his physical or spiritual self, he would have said something like, “Do this to draw me near,” or “Do this to be with me always.” He didn’t say either of those things. He said so it to remember him. You don’t have to remember people who are in your presence.
Yeah! Hebrews 13:17. I read that one day, and the next Sunday the Bishop installed our new pastor. I told the new pastor I wanted to live out that verse. So far so good. The hierarchy of the Catholic Church is based more on responsibility than authority. If a priest or bishop is successful in his responsibility to teach, then he won't have much need to lean on his authority.
Oh, Trent. Unfortunately our very pastor thinks the same way and has preached this very thing at our Parish and at Mass. It breaks my heart. I'm glad I'm not alone in being so bothered by this.
Jimmy Martin is NOT confusing, he is a very clear and well spoken heretic.
@@drjanitor3747 yep
Exactly.
How was he ordained ffs his soul is in serious danger
Correct me if I’m wrong but back when Trent Horn was responding to Vatican Catholic, he said that you couldn’t call the Pope a heretic or call any Vatican 2 priests heretics unless they’ve been officially labeled one through a council. How come u guys are calling James Martin a heretic when it hasn’t been made official? Double standards
Sure but he may confusing the faithful but speaking from his position.
St. Ignatius of Loyola. Pray for us.
This sort of thing is false worship.
There is only one mediator between God and Men, the Lord Jesus
@@rogerbrooks842 Said no one with proper theological education ever.
200,000 raped altar boys agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@rogerbrooks842 If your friend asked you to pray for him, would you tell him, "there is only one mediator between God and Man"? If you were visited by an angel, I'm sure you would not say, "you are not to be mediator, as Jesus is the only mediator between God and humanity!". I don't think Paul meant that we are never to get spiritual guidance/intercession/whatever spiritual roles fufilled from anyone who isn't Jesus. He meant that humanity's ne mediator to God is Christ, that humanity is wholly dependent on Christ's mediation to get to God. He goes on to say that Christ ransomed himself for us, suggesting that Jesus's perfect sacrifice for our sins is this mediation. We becomes children of God through Christ, we gain inheritance through Him (and not through the Saints, Angels, or anyone else. This is the mediation Paul is speaking of, not intercessory prayer. There is a lot to suggest in the New Testament that we should be helping each other as we are members of the body of Christ. "We, though many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another” (Romans 12:5). If we are the same body, helping each other is necessary, which is why we ask for help from the Saints and even each other on earth.
@@GranMaese you don't need a degree to believe god
Trent - you are the best online Catholic apologist by far. Your clarifications are priceless. Thanks much, my brother.
It doesn't matter when the term "transubstantiation" became used in any language. What's important is that the concept is blatantly in the Bible. We could still be without a term for it today and it would still not change the fact that bread and wine change to Jesus' body and blood because He said it at the last supper. In other parts of the Gospels, the Apostles ask Jesus to clarify things like parables and He does. But with the Last Supper, they do not ask for clarification because they know they are the seeing the fulfillment of Jesus' prophecy when He said "Unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood..." They know without a doubt that this is not a symbol. And when Jesus says, "Do this in memory of me," they know He's telling them to perform this supper again and again for the world.
Exactly
_"It doesn't matter when the term "transubstantiation" became used in any language. What's important is that the concept is blatantly in the Bible."_
LOL, source?
How do you explain this:
"Whoever gnaws my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink."
@@twitherspoon8954 You are proving my point. The apostles asked how they could eat His flesh and blood. Instead of saying it would be a symbol, He doubles down. Then at the Last Supper, they finally understand.
@@ToddJambon
_"The apostles asked how they could eat His flesh and blood."_
Source?
Should cannibalism be worshiped or condemned?
Should ritual human sacrifice be worshiped or condemned?
@@ToddJambon he didnt understan what you are traying to say in first place..by the way thanks for explanation
100% support for what you do Trent. We need accountability in the Church. If the clergy won't address these types of issues themselves, the laity such as yourself bringing this to light and refuting it in the correct spirit is what is needed to fix the evil corruption in the Church.
You might have heard the old Joke, with all the changes to the mass over the years what’s the only thing that never changes during a Jesuits mass? The bread and wine.
I went to a jesuit university and the jesuits brought me back to Christ.. St. Ignatius of Loyola, pray for us
I resonate with this. And I am thankful for what Fr. James Martin, among other Jesuits, have contributed to the faith.
@@puckboy9 Goodness Gracious; St. Ignatius! (an approved Jesuit ejaculation)
Fr. Martins contributions are outweighed by his confusions
@@steakfilly5199 i know i know.. just breaks my heart cuz the jesuits introduced me to the ignatian spirituality and strengthened my faith 😢
@@highground3609 It is sad. The Society of Jesus has sadly been largely hijacked.
Love your thoughts on Fr Richard Rohr he really is a Buddhist I don’t get why he keeps his catholic name
Also on Fr. Greg Boyle SJ who subtly follows a similar theology but has a huge platform in LA with Homeboy ministries
I agree, he should leave Catholicism. Rohr's theology is way deeper than what most mainstream denominations are ready for
As an ex Protestant currently doing RCIA, I'd say this says more about the failings of the Church than particular priests. How did they get through seminary?
Sigh!
it is the individual priest.....they are afraid..or in doubt..and where does fear and doubt comes from???... comes from the enemy ........
This is also why we need to pray for all priests that they may be holy and be good shepherds.
I’m praying for you and your conversion!
Congratulations & welcome. I can possibly give 2 reasons 1)possibly he just went thru seminary giving all the right answers & never questioned or disagreed before ordination
2) it's possible that he was completely faithful & the world, along with the evil one led him to question his faith.
We may never know why he's trying to mislead & divide our church. But I'm more convinced they all need our prayers. They give us so much, our prayers need to be given for them.
Welcome into our church, we are blessed to have you, it will become home to you. And you'll be in my prayers
I would ask Fr. Reese that if he doesn’t understand terms like “saving souls,” “God’s grace,” and “transubstantiation,” then why did he become a priest? Those things were never explained to him in seminary?
This is not “tip toeing into heresy.” This is plunging directly into its core.
I read an older apologetic work which discussed how Protestants and others have problems believing the Eucharistic doctrines. The writer said "Yes, it is very difficult for us to understand, but I thought to myself "Why should it not be?" At that moment my doubts began to fade. If God could do all the things that the Church says that He did then why should He not make the Eucharist the Body and Blood of Christ? It's a very simple insight, but it works for me. Why shouldn't God do it? He is able to do anything, so why not?
i have heard from them.
“He wouldnt”.
why not?
Christ has risen happy blessed Octive easter, Saint Faustina pray for us
That ending quote! That's Cardinal Ercole Consalvi, 1st Secretary of State of Pope Pius VII, who allegedly said that.
Napoleon; "We will destroy your Church" (and BOY he did try!)
Consalvi: "Majesty, it has been 20 centuries that we ourselves have been trying to do this and we did not manage to..."
Cardinal Ettore Consalvi, apart from this funny anevdote, is a very interesting figure to dive ourselves in; he had to govern the State when the Pope was deported and the State under the revolution.
I think his best quote, written in his Memories, and that gives us exactly what kind of man he was, is this:
"The Revolution had changed everything and destroyed much. From this evil it was possible, in restoring things, to derive good. However wise the institutions of papal government were, there is no doubt, however, that some had degenerated from their earliest origins; others had been mixed, altered, corrupted; others no longer suited the times, new ideas, new uses. The very effects of the Revolution and its spirit, which had not ceased with its cessation, demanded considerations and considerations, for the very advantage of the government that was to be re-established, as well as of the governed."
A man unshrinkable by history and adversities.
An out standing comment! Many thanks for bringing so much light in a confused world.!
Thank you Trent. Clarity, Clarity, Clarity !
That’s the worst description of the Holy Mass that I’ve ever heard. The Holy Mass is a sacrifice. It’s scary that ordained priests say this stuff
Bishop Schwaderlapp of Cologne told us the anecdote of Napoleon on a meeting shortly after the first meetings of the synodal way took place when an austrian priest told him he was worried about the possible way this all could take.
Awesome final words. Thank you. And peace. Amen.
I can't understand how this priest, James Martin and others of the same ideologies became priests in the first place. There seems to be a huge problem in the Jesuits with regard to formation as per Church Dogma and Scripture. It's like science is now Doctrine, instead of Faith in Revelation!
Thanks for your content, Trent! When are you making a parallel Rumble account?
It's important to remember that truth is not a democracy. No matter what private opinions are publicly expressed by this priest or that friar, the truth is safeguarded infallibly in the Church itself, in the deposit of faith. Even when the Pope speaks on an issue, it is important to distinguish whether he is speaking infallibly, on matters essential to the faith, or simply sharing his personal thoughts and opinions. The best defense against falsehood is not necessarily censorship of every controversial voice (although that would be very effective), but to be firmly grounded in knowledge of the truth.
I think transsubstantiation is actually pretty easy to understand. It's all around us.
A banknote is paper transsubstantiated into money. The physical form is paper, the substance is money.
A book is a pile of paper transsubstantiated into a story. The physical form is a pile of paper, the substance is a story.
A cd is a little plastic disc transsubstantiated into music. The physical form is a little plastic disc, the substance is music.
In fact, we are used to far more abstract phenomena, like bank accounts and streamed music where there is no physical form at all. Nobody denies the existence of those things.
The actual physical reality of a banknote is just a piece of printed paper. But at the same time it really _is_ money. The substance of it is far more important than the physical form (printed paper).
The situation with the body and blood of Christ is not fundamentally different (in my understanding). Physically they are still bread and wine. But way more important is the substance: the bread really _is_ the body of Christ, the wine really _is_ the blood of Christ.
Be aware of the false knowledge, it's more dangerous than being ignorant... 🙏
Bernard Shaw
7:27 was amazing
Thank you. As long as the Holy Spirit will exist, and the good news is that He is eternal because God is eternal, the beloved church of Christ will continue to exist, regardlless of internal sufferings within the Church. The chosen apostles were not perfect,some even betrayed our Saviour and yet the Word spread over all surfaces of our planet. Let us pray for our imperfect priests all over the world,that they ,might be faithful to the doctrine of our beautiful faith. For the rest, let us not worry, as Saint JP II said. In the end ,love,truth and beauty will always prevail and the merciful Christ will protect his flock. Greetings to all from Brussels
Did your rabbi Singer video get copy righted? It went out right in the middle for me.
Trent: My understanding is that philosophy is the "handmaiden" of theology not its master. Yes, how many of us really are able to buy into ancient Aristotelian philosophival categories like "substance' and "accidents" to explain what we really mean when we talk about Christ's real presence in the Eucharist? When it comes to explaining "reality" we live in a world of atoms, quarks and vibrating waves of energy.
I just recently returned to the church and noticed thst in the creed "of one being with the Father" has been changed back to "consubstantial" with the Father. That really helps ?
Why is there so much heresy among Jesuits? I guess Fr. Martin is skewing my perception.
It wasn’t always this way. In the recent past the Jesuits were our most conservative order.
@@johnflorio3576 perhaps that's why it is under attack by cheap ideologists.
Remember it's the....
Jesuits evangelize the world
The first missionaries go out into the world and bring tales of faraway countries back to Europe.
I think it has a lot to do with a couple of things: first and foremost, Jesuit are highly involved in higher education, which has grown progressively more leftist, secular and socialist since the 1960s. And second but lesser so, the Jesuit themselves take vows of poverty and communal lifestyles where they do not own anything. Sounds rather socialist in nature...They were often in conflict with the right-wing dictators the US propped up in South America during the cold War in the name of fighting communism. Even in the 90s there was a lot of anti-American sentiment over things like the School of Americas at the Jesuit college I attended.
The thing is over yonder here in the East like in India and what not the Jesuits remain extremely conservative and are known for being extremely strict.
There is some localised issue over west and well we know what that issue is, leftism and its growth
I only just realised while listening that there's no difference in possibility/plausibility/mystery/understanding between believing that God became a man or that God became bread or wine. I never heard that put to a protestant apologist in any of the debates I listened to after becoming a believer myself.
In our Catholic church, the logic in things that are true, not only requires mentallyty or simply logical answers, it does requires the "True Faith in the word of the Lord..."Faith", no simply logic, but Spiritual faith "in our Catholic Church, which is fulfill with all the Sacraments and for us to be part in the body of Christ" (Hebrews 11,3-5) Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
4) By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
5) By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
If the only way Catholics in the pews are going to learn the truth of our Church is through Catholic Apologists, then so be it!! Thanks Trent!! ✴
the clergy have failed to catechize the laity
Trent I watch your video almost everyday and I am concerned that you look tired more and more. Take some rest brother.
Confessional Lutherans: The Eucharist really is the Body and Blood of Christ.
Catholics: The Eucharist really is the Body and Blood of Christ.
Some Jesuits... "Is it?"
Confessional Lutherans and Catholics: "Stop it."
Missing the inquisition rn
Dear Trent. I've noticed something perculiar among quite a few Catholic friends/relatives of mine.
There is some aspect of the teachings of our Faith that really irritates them (or rubs them the wrong way).
This seems to be the case here.
I believe we should be humble enough to accept all the teachings of our Faith whether or not we fully understand them or not 🙏
Dear all, how can we give ears to Fr R? We have thousands of holy and genuine Priests and Bishops. Why give the opportunity to heresy and stupidity mixed with Arrogance to grab our time and Minds? This is my last time on this show-chat. Shame on us!
I agree with most of this but Reese does have one important point:
“What worked in the 13th century will not work today. If [Aquinas] were alive today, he would not use Aristotelianism because nobody grasps it in the 21st century.”
Contra Mr Horn, “Accidents” are not simply appearances in scholasticism. Moreover, neo-scholastics deny Pope Paul VI’s Encyclical Eucharisticum Mysticum which calls the Real Presence “physical”:
Cf .: th-cam.com/video/d5mjC_XmteY/w-d-xo.html
Lord,forgive those hypocrites of hatred.
Trent, have you ever read Pascal's Provincial Letters? If not, you must. Talk about Jesuits who sow confusion!
In a Lutheran. We believe it's the body and blood of Christ. We don't really explain it further than the words of Christ. However, it was very surprising to hear than many Catholics don't even accept that basic fact.
Hey Trent, what icon picture do you have in the background? And where did you get it from? I’m looking to get some myself, God bless .
"Ordained in 1974"
'nuff said
As a non-Catholic, I wonder whether priests like this are ever defrocked. What good is a pope if he acts more like a pushover grandpa than a shepherd? What good is unity if it’s at the expense of blatant heresy?
If theses priests didn't believe the dogma of the Church, why were they ordained? Who ordained them?
But the Good Lord perhaps allow this to happen so that The True Teaching of the Church becomes even more Luminous.
Another objection: God's kingdom/reign is God's activity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we read that we effect God's kingdom/reign.
Has anyone argued that the bread and wine are the body and blood of Christ only during Communion or the Mass?
Can there be good arguments for this?
The Catholic doctrine is clear that they remain Christ's body and blood after consecration, right?
The fact that he hasn’t been excommunicated speaks volumes about who’s in charge of the Church
I just still don't undertand why Priests like him are not excommunicated.
7:30 the Orthodox believe that the Eucharist is the real Body and Blood of Christ Jesus but they say it is a mystery.
Eff Reece and the unicorn he rode in on.
I’m saving that Napoleon quote
In 1989 in a Chapel I witnessed coming from the Tabernacle a visible all encompassing blue light when invited it left and came around and entered my chest. Hence I felt the most wonderful feeling of an overwhelming Peace and Joy that I had never felt before nor since. Two weeks ago on April fifth of this year. I saw it again for approximately 1
Ten to thirty seconds. Enough to let me know He was there.
For those who criticize the jesuits, mourning for their fallen glory is more appropriate
So how is it the taste and texture are not transformed yet the thought of it changed ,isnt that wishfull thinking,ive always been very intune with the representation by the bread and wine to be in remembrance of what Jesus had done for us, I know many say to if we could really turn these into his blood and flesh bringing it down from Heaven we would be repeating that was done and "FINISHED" over 2000k years ago over and over and over, making it endless instead of in rememberance. I can see both points yet given all the context of the rcc im leaning towards "in remberance"
Did Pope Francis enter into a civil union with James Martin SJ ?
Thank you.
How can we teach the faith with modern words from science and philosophy?
This is not an easy task.
Thomas and Aristotle are part of the Church's history.
But this will not be the end of theology, philosophy and the struggle to find appropriate words.
You are allowed to not use the word “transubstantiation”, you still have to believe the idea of it. And the idea is not just some vague “real presence”. We Orthodox also say that the Eucharist is an unexplainable mystery and do not use Latin vocabulary. But the belief regarding what happens as it pertains to the real presence is identical to the one held by the Roman communion.
Tommy Reese’s demagoguery should not be taken seriously to any extent.
At 5:40, Father Reese's take isn't too far from sound theology. The principal effect and the reason for the Eucharist is the change it brings about in us. Christ did not institute the Eucharist that he may be adored. If he only wanted to be adored, why ascend to heaven? He instituted the Eucharist that we have a foretaste of heaven, being united with him Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity, and therefore, being united with His heavenly Father, whom he reunited with. Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, prior to being elected pope, makes a very similar point in his book "The Spirit of the Liturgy."
Now sound theology doesn't state that the Eucharist exists that we can further earthly justice, in an external sense. That may be an effect. Instead, it exists so that we may be further in the virtue of justice, and all other virtues.
Now we can choose how to respond to this. We can disregard such a great gift, or we can respond with love and gratitude at the salvific mystery that is the person of Christ. One is just, and the other isn't. And so one does what is good and natural. But that does not mean but that the Eucharist exists to be adored. That is secondary.
And while Reese's remarks at 7:30 are definitely heretical, I am uncertain as to how not every Nominalist theologian, cough, cough, Franciscans, doesn't hold the same view.
Once again, I can't understand how the Church didn't listen to the Dominicans and label Nominalism heresy.
Trent thanks for doing what Comrade Arturo Sosa, Superior of the Jesuits, won't do to expose Jimmy Martin. St Ignatius of Loyola deserves better from modern Jesuits.
Perhaps a better word than transubstantiation would be supersubstantiation?
Terribly heinous explanation of Our Lords most blessed Sacramento of Love. God have mercy on this man he automatic calypso excommunicated from .Church until he repents!
Not confusing. Of course, the Church is two Councils past Trent so…🤷♂️
Both sides of Hell?
I feel sorry for Fr as he seems to crave attention, even if it's negative. Poor soul
“I reject [Aquinas’] metaphysics”
Ah, now it makes sense. Many such cases. Sad!
"Fr. Reese was ordained in 1974"
Say no more, fam, say no more
Lol so true. The worst era for seminaries.
It's sad, but often true.
A lot of the priests in our area in their 30s and 40s are traditional. The hippies of that era are… Literally… dying out.
😂a good one!
When were Frs. Pacwa and Spitzer ordained?
As a new Catholic, I am confused as to why a letter is not submitted to a bishop or higher on the corrupt priests so they can either be ejected or purged of corruption.
People very well may have sent letters. But a priest's bishop doesn't have to respond. They might have pastoral reasons for not acting yet. Who knows? It's also possible that this priest's congregation is more liberal and never sent letters.
It’s also possible the bishops are corrupt
My take is they have contempt for the laity when they speak out, look at how the scandals that we the laity are paying for were handled.
I hate to tell you this, but most of our bishops are evil.
Welcome to the Catholic Church my friend! Most of the bishops are incompetent and the fact we've lasted 2,000 years in spite of the incompetence of leadership is evidence of the truth of our claims. The fact is, the majority of bishops are administrators and don't want to ruffle the feathers of the culture. They think you can serve both God and Mammon or be neutral in the struggle between them.
Tldr we're happy you're here - now get ready to bang your head against a wall until Christ calls you home!
Thanks for everything you do here, Trent, and for reminding the Internet that my Order, like the Church, is very big, and a few troubling Jesuits do not characterize the entire order. Great and charitable analysis of Fr. Reese's comments.
I’m sorry many of the “celebrity” priests are giving your order a bad name, or at least, sowing confusion.
Fr. why don't your superiors remove and punish them if they are the exception?
@@stephenmcguire7342 you'd have to ask his provincial. I honestly have no idea why there isn't a greater effort to admonish and correct my brothers when they speak contrary to the faith or inadvertently cause confusion.
@@FrJacobSJ "Inadvertently" with all due respect Fr. no one is that naive. Could their refusal indicate at least a tacit approval if not all out support of their heresies and approval of depravity?
@@stephenmcguire7342 I will admit I try to focus on what's right in front of me where.i am ministering, and so I tend to ignore or simply be unaware of what most of my brothers are up to online. I also know that it is easy to be misunderstood, and so I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and understand what people say in the most charitable light. However, by watching Trent's analysis of Fr. Reese's perspective, I did not mean to suggest that his words are "inadvertent" but rather it does appear he holds a view quite contrary to the faith and it's frustrating that it's allowed to persist without retraction or correction.
Remember the Our Father uses the word ἐπιούσιον bread (Supersubstantial/suprasubstantial ), it is a word which appears only twice in the Bible and is a made up word in Koine Greek. It doesn't mean daily bread. There was the Holy Bread lachem haPanim - the bread of the presence aka as the Bread of the Face in the inner sanctuary of the First Temple. Only the priests could eat it, Three times a year the priests would take the holy bread out raise it up for the jewish pilgrims to see and say "Behold G_ds love for you". Eucharist is our manna, our holy bread and each time we participate in Mass and consume it we return to that moment of redemption. It is not a wheel of time. It is a spiral. We return to the same point but at a higher level by our continued observance. This is Jacob’s spiracle ladder to heaven.
I'm not a Roman Catholic but I want to voice my view in the distinction of and rejection regarding the view that the "Eucharist is Manna or Holy Bread," because the sacrament is preceded by the words of Jesus, spoken from His living self to eat bread in His remembrance, so with that distinction cleared out it would mean that Jesus Himself directly, and in a vacuum (or in the most technical and precise way) so to speak is the living bread or manna of heaven, the sacrament of the Eucharist is merely a portion or subset of what it means to eat the bread of heavevn or in other words _to obey Jesus._ Considering Jesus' words are about obeying Him, or in other words to partake of His Divine nature by conforming one's self to it, a person eats the living bread from heaven every time they genuinely turn away from sin at the moment of temptation as one example. Jesus Himself, the Living word is what sanctifies any sort of sacrament. Jesus precedes the sacrament of communion not the other way around and neither are the two on equal grounds, for no matter how much the latter in it's nature is necessary and reflective of the former, what I say is true because eating the bread of heaven is a title of knowing God, and the pharisees, had they been born in the Christian age would be probably some of the best communion/mass service attenders and yet they would still not go to heaven.
@@someperson2789 Jesus gave out 2 types of bread at the Last Supper. One type of bread Jesus gave to Judas which is a metaphor for the bread of “spiritual death”, this bread was unholy and unblessed and identified Judas as His traitor. He then gave out another type of Bread to the Apostles with the words: "Take, eat this is MY BODY." He took, blessed, broke and gave this blessed holy bread to His Apostles that if they eat it they will have eternal life. John 13: 26-30.
Those who eat the first type of bread (unblessed/unholy) don’t believe Jesus in John 6 when He said “those who eat my flesh and drink my blood abide in me and I abide in them.” They are like those who turned their backs on Jesus and left because they couldn’t accept that teaching about the Eucharist.
Some in John 6 waited for Jesus to correct/clarify Himself but He doesn't, in fact He doubles down on what He said. They/protestants couldn't make the connection to the Manna (Bread from Heaven) or the connection to the Bread of the Presence (Bread of the Face) which was kept in the holy of holies in Solomons Temple.
PESACH: consume the lamb/flat bread in memory of the exodus/escape from slavery
EUCHARIST: consume the lamb/bread in memory of the escape from slavery of sin
The Todah was the one of the most important and popular sacrifices of ancient Jews. Ancient Rabbinic dictum states: “In the coming Messianic age all sacrifices will end but the thanks- offering of the todah will never cease."
The todah sacrifice is what links and underlies the Passover and the Mass. Introduced in the Old Testament, the todah-in contrast to the yearly celebration of Passover-was a continual sacrifice of thanks and praise to G_d for His saving actions: A todah sacrifice would be offered by someone whose life had been delivered from great peril.
Just as the Passover was a sacrifice in memory of when the Jewish people had been saved from death during their exile in Egypt, so too, the Mass is a continual sacrifice of thanksgiving for our salvation. This is why every hour of every day there is a Mass being celebrated in a town/city somewhere in the world for thanksgiving to Christ for His sacrifice and saving us .
Very encouraging there at the end. 😊 God’s got His Church. She’s His bride, after all.
Prayers for all priests.
But Saint Ignatius founded the Society of Jesus to fight for the truths of the faith!
SAINT FAUSTINA'S PRAYER
FOR THE HOLY CHURCH AND PRIESTS
O my Jesus, I beg Thee on behalf of the whole Church: Grant it love and the light of Thy Spirit, and give power to the words of priests so that hardened hearts might be brought to repentance and return to Thee, O Lord. Lord, give us holy priests; Thou Thyself maintain them in holiness. O Divine and Great High Priest, may the power of Thy mercy accompany them everywhere and protect them from the devil's traps and snares which are continually being set for the souls of priests. May the power of Thy mercy, O Lord, shatter and bring to naught all that might tarnish the sanctity of priests, for Thou canst do all things. (Diary 1052)
Trent, your comments at the end is exactly what I say when I tell people why I am Catholic. The fact that in all the corruptness the Eucharist and the foundations of the church still stand says a lot.
that you exist dear Horn Trent is a great comfort to me in this confused time in the church and the world. thank God you exist! Anton, Catholic priest from Croatia
THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD "is a great last day that He will save man"
(God returned and brought the age to the end. When the Age of Law His name was Jehovah, and in the Age of Grace and redemption the name Jesus represented God. But in this Last Day His name is Almighty God, taken He this name belongs to His disposition)
Almighty God said
"GOD'S WORK throughout His ADMINISTRATION is VERY CLEAR. The AGE of GRACE is the age of grace, and the LAST DAY is the last day. THERE are CLEAR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN each AGE, because in each age there is His work will represent that age. To FULFILL the WORK in the LAST DAYS, there MUST be OBEDIENCE, JUDGMENT, PUNISHMENT, HATE, and DESTRUCTION to END the AGE.
The LAST DAYS are, REFERRING to the FINAL AGE.
In the final age, won't He end the age?
And ONLY through CHASTISEMENT and JUDGMENT CAN the AGE be BROUGHT to an END." ☀️
"In fact, in the AGE of LAW, JEHOVAH is the NAME of GOD, and in the AGE of GRACE, the NAME JESUS represents GOD.
In the LAST DAYS, His NAME will be ALMIGHTY GOD----the Almighty. 🙏
And He USES His POWER to GUIDE MAN, CONQUER MAN, GAIN MAN, and ULTIMATELY, END the AGE,"
I have ONCE been RECOGNIZED as JEHOVAH.
I have ALSO been CALLED the MESSIAH, sometimes PEOPLE CALLED Me JESUS, SAVIOR because they LOVED and RESPECTED Me.
But NOW I AM NO LONGER the JEHOVAH or JESUS that PEOPLE have KNOWN in PAST TIMES-----I AM the GOD who RETURNS in the LAST DAYS, the ONE who WILL BRING in the TIME of the END. ☀️
I AM the GOD who RISE from the ENDS of the WORLD, I AM FULL of MY DISPOSITION and FULL of AUTHORITY, HONOR, and GLORY. PEOPLE have NEVER PARTAKEN of Me, NEVER KNOWN Me and ALWAYS IGNORANT of My DISPOSITION.
FROM the CREATION of the WORLD UNTIL NOW, NO ONE has KNOWN Me. This is the GOD who APPEARS to MAN in the LAST DAYS but is HIDDEN from PEOPLE. ☀️
HE DWELLS with MEN, TRUE and BURNING FIRE, FULL of POWER and OVERFLOWING AUTHORITY. There is NOT one PERSON or THING that MY WORDS will NOT JUDGE, and there is not ONE PERSON or THING that WILL NOT be PURIFIED BY the FIRE.
IN the END all NATIONS will be BLESSED because of My WORDS, and will ALSO be BROKEN into PIECES because of My WORDS. In this WAY all PEOPLE DURING the LAST DAYS will SEE that I AM the SAVIOR who has RETURNED. I AM the ALMIGHTY GOD who will CONQUER ALL mankind. 🙏
And for MAN I was ONCE the SIN OFFERING, BUT in the LAST DAYS I WILL be the FLAMES of the SUN that will BURN EVERYTHING, as WELL as the SUN of RIGHTEOUSNESS that will REVEAL EVERYTHING.
SUCH is My WORK in the LAST DAYS.
I TOOK this NAME and I OWN this DISPOSITION, so that ALL PEOPLE may SEE that I AM a RIGHTEOUS GOD, and I AM the BURNING SUN and the BURNING FIRE. It is so that ALL WILL WORSHIP ME, the ONLY TRUE GOD. And so they see My TRUE FACE: I AM NOT JUST the GOD of the ISRAELITES, and I AM NOT JUST the REDEEMER-----I AM the GOD of ALL CREATION in the WHOLE SKY and EARTH and SEA." 🙏
From " The WORD Appears in the Flesh " 🌸 holy book.
His Kingdom sent down from heaven standing in the air or TH-cam! fulfillment of "In the LAST DAY, the mountain on which Jehovah's Temple stands will stand out above all the mountains. All nations will flock to it." (Isaiah 2:2)
💐 "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD" 💐 fulfillment of (Matthew 16:18) The Lord Jesus said to Peter, "And I say to you, you are Peter, UPON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH, that even the power of death will not prevail against it."
"I will write the name of my God, the name of the city of my God, which will come down from heaven from My God.....And I will also write My NEW NAME." (Revelation 3:12)
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be laid upon his shoulder: and his NAME SHALL BE CALLED Wonderful, Counselor, ALMIGHTY GOD, Everlasting FATHER, Prince of Peace."
(Isaiah 9:6)
I heard a loud voice from the throne, "Now, the house of God is with the people! They will dwell with them, and they will be his people. They will be with God forever (and he will be their God).
"They WILL SEE His FACE, and HIS NAME WILL BE WRITTEN ON THEIR FOREHEAD."
(Revelation 21:3 and 22:4)
Thank you Trent!
And my favourite Jesuit is Fr Mitch Pacwa. Love his Scripture n Tradition series. In fact all his teachings
Mine is St. Francis Xavior 😉😁
Mitch is a heretic
Thank you Trent. As others mention in the comments, we shouldn't bash anyone in the Church, but I appreciate you pointing out these ideas such as Fr. Reese's which are highly problematic. The danger of not publicly challenging ideas like his is that it can lead Catholics astray, because they like what Fr. Reese says, hence they adopt that viewpoint and don't even consider the errancy.
Great job, Trent. Thanks for making us aware of these problems & giving solid responses. God bless!
Maybe I'm not smart enough to fully understand his argument, but a simple answer seems to be if you don't believe what catholics are teaching, Don't be Catholic! Become an Episcopal priest. It sounds like you will fit in very comfortably there.
Thank God for people like Trent who use their platform to correct so many of the errors that are out there 🙏
He doesn't correct any errors. He brings them to light and the errors are never corrected.
I think trent is a modernist 🤔
Why doesn’t the magisterium corrects the errors flooding the Church? Don’t they realize how scandalous all of this is? Do they not see the flock leaving the church?
Much of the magisterium is probably sympathetic to the "errors". The magisterium isn't infallible, and never has been.
@@redhawkmillenium So what use is the promise the the Church will never fail if that means it will survive with scandal and millions leaving every year?
Leaving the Church because of scandal is stupid. So long as human beings are involved in any capacity the Church will never be impeccable.
But that doesn't matter because that is not what Jesus promised. He promised that He would lead the Church to all truth (exercise of infallibilty) not that it would be without sin (impeccable).
Some are, not necessarily on a national level, but a Diocesan one. Many Dioceses are creating new initiatives to make an increase of a return to faith for members of the Church. Many heresies have been countered this way with increased education as well. This also seems to be a problem seen more in countries considered first world where we take many things for granted, causing us to become lazy and look for problems where there isn't. This is seen in the increase of heretical views by dissenters who wish to discredit our Church and increase confusion.
Throughout history, our Church has encountered many heresies like Arianism, and despite terrible misteps we have won out. The Church will ultimately get over this as we have in the past.
@@redhawkmilleniumThat's just clearly not the case, did you just skip all the parts of the video where Trent used Francis to contradict him
Thank you for this video! I remember seeing that most recent article a little while ago. I was surprised to see an article that seemed to be tiptoeing heresy on a Catholic publication (I know it's not as rare as you would hope, but still). I saw the little picture of the author had a collar on so I thought it must have been an Episcopalian writing a guest-piece on the site. Then I realized he's a Jesuit. Really sucks for the Jesuits to have these bad witnesses. Pray for them. Many of the Jesuit saints throughout their history are still my heroes and I love when I get to speak to Jesuits. They are usually such smart and kind people.
See what happens when Jesuits stop studying Suarez and Aquinas and are formed by Rhaner.
THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD "is a great last day that He will save man"
(God returned and brought the age to the end. When the Age of Law His name was Jehovah, and in the Age of Grace and redemption the name Jesus represented God. But in this Last Day His name is Almighty God, taken He this name belongs to His disposition)
Almighty God said
"GOD'S WORK throughout His ADMINISTRATION is VERY CLEAR. The AGE of GRACE is the age of grace, and the LAST DAY is the last day. THERE are CLEAR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN each AGE, because in each age there is His work will represent that age. To FULFILL the WORK in the LAST DAYS, there MUST be OBEDIENCE, JUDGMENT, PUNISHMENT, HATE, and DESTRUCTION to END the AGE.
The LAST DAYS are, REFERRING to the FINAL AGE.
In the final age, won't He end the age?
And ONLY through CHASTISEMENT and JUDGMENT CAN the AGE be BROUGHT to an END." ☀️
"In fact, in the AGE of LAW, JEHOVAH is the NAME of GOD, and in the AGE of GRACE, the NAME JESUS represents GOD.
In the LAST DAYS, His NAME will be ALMIGHTY GOD----the Almighty. 🙏
And He USES His POWER to GUIDE MAN, CONQUER MAN, GAIN MAN, and ULTIMATELY, END the AGE,"
I have ONCE been RECOGNIZED as JEHOVAH.
I have ALSO been CALLED the MESSIAH, sometimes PEOPLE CALLED Me JESUS, SAVIOR because they LOVED and RESPECTED Me.
But NOW I AM NO LONGER the JEHOVAH or JESUS that PEOPLE have KNOWN in PAST TIMES-----I AM the GOD who RETURNS in the LAST DAYS, the ONE who WILL BRING in the TIME of the END. ☀️
I AM the GOD who RISE from the ENDS of the WORLD, I AM FULL of MY DISPOSITION and FULL of AUTHORITY, HONOR, and GLORY. PEOPLE have NEVER PARTAKEN of Me, NEVER KNOWN Me and ALWAYS IGNORANT of My DISPOSITION.
FROM the CREATION of the WORLD UNTIL NOW, NO ONE has KNOWN Me. This is the GOD who APPEARS to MAN in the LAST DAYS but is HIDDEN from PEOPLE. ☀️
HE DWELLS with MEN, TRUE and BURNING FIRE, FULL of POWER and OVERFLOWING AUTHORITY. There is NOT one PERSON or THING that MY WORDS will NOT JUDGE, and there is not ONE PERSON or THING that WILL NOT be PURIFIED BY the FIRE.
IN the END all NATIONS will be BLESSED because of My WORDS, and will ALSO be BROKEN into PIECES because of My WORDS. In this WAY all PEOPLE DURING the LAST DAYS will SEE that I AM the SAVIOR who has RETURNED. I AM the ALMIGHTY GOD who will CONQUER ALL mankind. 🙏
And for MAN I was ONCE the SIN OFFERING, BUT in the LAST DAYS I WILL be the FLAMES of the SUN that will BURN EVERYTHING, as WELL as the SUN of RIGHTEOUSNESS that will REVEAL EVERYTHING.
SUCH is My WORK in the LAST DAYS.
I TOOK this NAME and I OWN this DISPOSITION, so that ALL PEOPLE may SEE that I AM a RIGHTEOUS GOD, and I AM the BURNING SUN and the BURNING FIRE. It is so that ALL WILL WORSHIP ME, the ONLY TRUE GOD. And so they see My TRUE FACE: I AM NOT JUST the GOD of the ISRAELITES, and I AM NOT JUST the REDEEMER-----I AM the GOD of ALL CREATION in the WHOLE SKY and EARTH and SEA." 🙏
From " The WORD Appears in the Flesh " 🌸 holy book.
His Kingdom sent down from heaven standing in the air or TH-cam! fulfillment of "In the LAST DAY, the mountain on which Jehovah's Temple stands will stand out above all the mountains. All nations will flock to it." (Isaiah 2:2)
💐 "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD" 💐 fulfillment of (Matthew 16:18) The Lord Jesus said to Peter, "And I say to you, you are Peter, UPON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH, that even the power of death will not prevail against it."
"I will write the name of my God, the name of the city of my God, which will come down from heaven from My God.....And I will also write My NEW NAME." (Revelation 3:12)
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be laid upon his shoulder: and his NAME SHALL BE CALLED Wonderful, Counselor, ALMIGHTY GOD, Everlasting FATHER, Prince of Peace."
(Isaiah 9:6)
I heard a loud voice from the throne, "Now, the house of God is with the people! They will dwell with them, and they will be his people. They will be with God forever (and he will be their God).
"They WILL SEE His FACE, and HIS NAME WILL BE WRITTEN ON THEIR FOREHEAD."
(Revelation 21:3 and 22:4)
Your “empty ritual” to me is spot on. It is my belief that these progressive Catholics are creating a situation for someone that rejects Catholic moral teaching to decide if they want to be Catholic and have to actually do things like go to Mass or not be a Catholic and not have to go about our sacred traditions and requirements (like going to Mass). Why should someone be Catholic if they can follow the same moral code outside a religion? This to me is why we have lost so many people at church. These progressives, woke, leftist or however they would be identified as have effectively made the Mass an “empty ritual” by teaching people that they do not have to abide by the moral requirements to say partake in the Eucharist. They have made the Eucharist an empty ritual.
How they can even begin to say that, as the first was celebrated by Christ himself, in which the sacrifice at Golgotha was made present, baffles me.
You are literally at the foot of the cross when you're at mass.
@@eddardgreybeard at the foot of the cross… great way of saying it!
Yes. In the words of Flannery O’Connor. “If it’s just a symbol, to hell with it.”
they have trouble believing what they cant see. they lack supernatural faith
I'm not sure I understand your comment properly.
People could follow some moral code without being Catholic even before now, regardless of Catholics believing in Eucharistic presence. Such teachings hardly affect that. They have more impact on people, who want to be Catholic, but are unsure about doctrine or are having doubts and are thus more easily led astray.
Not believing transubstantiation of the Host pretty much undermines the Prayers of the Priest over the Host in every Mass. Anyhow thank God Eucharistic Miracles pretty much undermine what Father Reese said on his own unbelief, he doesnt believe.He pretty much undermines the Priests ordination and Place in the Church. Saints, Clergy and Laiety have experienced real Eucharistic Miracles. His personal dissbelief Spoken even in Books and litrature should never be taken as the Churches Solid Belief..Afterall time in Adoration and Mass has had such profound meaning to so many.Listening to Sister Briege Mckenna who spends two Hours in Adoration daily she says she's been mocked even by Catholics who don't understand what she does and yet she has been an Host of so many of God's Miracles. To not believe in Transubstantiation is not to to believe in Jesus Presence in Our Churches..After all he who takes my body and blood has eternal life
For, in the first place, when you assemble as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you; and I partly believe it, for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized.
(1 Corinthians 11: 18-19)
As someone who was himself educated by the Jesuits, I am amazed that Fr. Reese consistently commits several logical fallacies, which I was taught by my (older and better) Jesuit teachers to avoid. His favorite one seems to be the "Argument from Ignorance," which fallaciously claims that just because I or others ("Modern Man") do not understand a term or argument (or simply have not heard of it), it must be wrong, meaningless or unimportant. As Trent puts it so well, it is literally Fr. Reese's job to know, clarify and communicate the meaning of these terms, which have been well-defined throughout Church history. But my guess is the Fr. Reese does understand what these terms and teachings mean, but pretends not to understand them because he doesn't like or believe them.
Fr. Reese is not Catholic at all...St John Newman said and I quote " Either you believe all or deny all Catholic teachings...to deny just one is to deny all...
I got so depressed hearing about all the weird things happening. Im gonna say pray the rosary.
Jimmy Martin sounds like a Protestant lol… Some Protestants make these bizarre interpretations of the Bible or life to validate their own opinions and views-instead of sticking to dogma.
Many thanks Trent, heresies should be exposed. Praying the Jesuit community would correct Fr Thomas Reese.
@@drjanitor3747 Jesus said to them, “I assure you: Tax collectors and prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God before you!'' Are these tax collectors and prostitutes Catholics?
@@drjanitor3747 you are correct Brother. And the jesuit order is already owned by satan. Jimmy Martin and Tommy Reese are satan’s top minions. 🤷♂️
@@drjanitor3747 so that means you also consider the Catacism of the Catholic faith as heresy also? Because all that you spoke of is in the Catacism.
Well done. When educated men say, “I don’t know what this means,” that’s code for “I disagree but don’t tell me I’m wrong.”
The fact they wouldn't defrock and excommunicate such figures speaks volumes
Do we honestly think Paul would stand by and let a priest speak like that?
You can't believe in the real presence without believing in transubstantiation
Materialists have been a problem thought history and they have existed under many different labels. I think Fr. Reese is likely a materialist.
Of course you can. Lutherans do. I have never heard a single satisfying explanation of transubstantiation other than, “It’s a mystery.” The real and actual presence of Jesus doesn’t depend in the least on anything materially or immaterially happening to the bread and wine.
@@jefftravilla
The priest calls the holy spirit down to the altar and enters the host and the wine. The holy spirit infuses the host and the wine and it becomes the body and blood.
You could not enter a single church: eastern, Oriental, or Catholic; prior to the reformation, and not hear that the Lord's presence in the Eucharist is real.
This is not a teaching unique to Catholicism. This is an authentic Christian teaching.
@@jefftravilla Jesus doesn’t lie. There’s your explanation. The Bread Of Life Discourse in the Gospel of St. John. How’s that explanation?
@@Chile2011 I never said Jesus lied, but the passage you refer to in John is pretty clear when Jesus says that the flesh means nothing. It becomes more and more obvious that he is referring to spiritual substance. This passage from John is an event that happened distinctly separate from the last supper. He wasn’t referring to atonement on the cross that we commemorate with communion. Jesus uses metaphor all throughout the gospel and we never see other uses of metaphor as “lying.” When he says he’s a “door,” we don’t assume he means he’s a literal door. The way he speaks in the last supper is exactly consistent with the same metaphorical language patterns he has used throughout the gospel. “Do this in remembrance of me” is the command. He is obviously creating symbolism. If he wanted us to think of it as eating his physical or spiritual self, he would have said something like, “Do this to draw me near,” or “Do this to be with me always.” He didn’t say either of those things. He said so it to remember him. You don’t have to remember people who are in your presence.
God bless Cdl. Ratzinger
@5:00 I've not felt scandalized in a long time. That's impressively wrong.
Yeah! Hebrews 13:17. I read that one day, and the next Sunday the Bishop installed our new pastor. I told the new pastor I wanted to live out that verse. So far so good. The hierarchy of the Catholic Church is based more on responsibility than authority. If a priest or bishop is successful in his responsibility to teach, then he won't have much need to lean on his authority.
Outta of the mouth of babes:
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This is exactly why we have sacraments, can’t entirely rely on humans emotions/thoughts/interpretations of lead alone.
I laughed way too hard at "Reese's pieces"
Oh, Trent. Unfortunately our very pastor thinks the same way and has preached this very thing at our Parish and at Mass. It breaks my heart. I'm glad I'm not alone in being so bothered by this.
I would shop around and go to a New Parish
@kathyweiland4732 we are blessed with a new Pastor! 🙏 He's wonderful!